Thank you for this video! I've been interested in this since my S1 + Lumix 24-70 f/2.8 is such a hefty combo. I love Panasonic's 24-70 but only really opted for that one because of the focus clutch. But now the S5ii + Sigma 24-70 is really tempting for an equal but significantly lighter combo
Amazing lens, I recently bought this one second hand. However, I noticed that the focus ring is pretty smooth, almost to smooth if that make sense. It’s very touch sensitive. I own also the sigma 35mm 1.4 and that focus ring is pretty rough, not so smooth at all so I’m a bit confused. Question: is it normal that it’s super sensitive focus ring on the 24-70mm ?
@@AlexCruzHaha I stayed with Canon. Just really like their bodies. I'm now on R5 and added a 100-500 too. If I was back a few years though before going full frame, I'd strongly consider Panasonic. The value is hard to beat.
Exactly! Exactly, this is the zoom lens and camera combo I was hoping to find on the internet. Thanks for your review. Sounds like u really like the Sigma 24-70 f2.8 paired up with the Panasonic-Lumix S5II. Have you attempted to utilize this combo inside an art museum getting shots of oil paintings. If so, how did it work out? 😎😎
Is the weight in hand significant compared to the 28-75 on the s5ii? Also, how do you manage sharing nd filters between it and the 67mm threaded primes? Step up filter? thanks!
lovely review. Im currently shooting fuji but want to invest in the s5ii with this lens. Is the afs focusing bad? has it improved in any way since the launch of the camera?
Great review! I’ve been using this lens with the S5 at work (museum) for both photo and video with really pleasant results. One thing I do find a bit challenging though - especially with manual focus for video - is the focus ring smoothness; it could have a bit more stiffness/resistance for my taste. As far as I know, SIGMA does enable their L-mount lenses (via a firmware update) to have their focus throw changed in the camera settings. I haven’t tried that because I don’t have the SIGMA firmware-adapter piece… Not 24-70mm, but the SIMGA 28-70mm is another great choice with great image quality/value for money for the L-mount (way smaller and lighter).
All L mount lenses as far as I’m aware actually get their firmware updates directly from the camera. So when you go to firmware update section in the camera, it should automatically install the newest lens firmware if you have the files on the sd card.
How to tell early copies from more recent copies? There's a secondhand one at a local camera shop but how to tell if the dust issue has been fixed? Is there a serial number range?
Dobrý den chtěl jsem se zeptat na váš názor . Chtěl bych o kategorii výše a mám dilema vzít li tady tu kombinaci kterou máte zde se sigmou anebo koupit Canon r5 s adapterem pro ef lenses které mám dvě ale chci si ponechat starší Canon jako druhou kameru děkuji za odpověď a přeji vše dobré do Bratislavy
S5 II a R5 sú fotoaparáty z rozdielnych kategórii a za úplne inú cenu, takže je ťažké ich porovnávať. S5 II je primárne určený na pokročilú tvorbu videa, R5 je primárne high-res fotoaparát, takže záleží na čo to chcete používať. Cestou adaptovaných objektívov by som dlhodobo nešiel, novšie slká pre mirorrless sú výrazne lepšie.
Hi! Im really in pain right now trying to figure it out if I go with the 24-70 2.8 or the 24-105 4.0. Do you think F4 is a deal braker for low light in the S5ii? Loved your content. Keep it up.
Didn't have a budget for multiple lenses so opted for this until I can get more. However, I've to find that this does the job very well. Don't need another lens for a while.
Why would you shoot video in S mode? I use it with my S1, but I am always in manual mode. With S1 in C mode, you may hear the noise because the autofocus in S1 sucks. With my S5iix, it is silent.
I love my sigma 18-35 purely because of its optical focus. Thinking of switching to S5ii and this 24-70 lens, but I can't stand focus by wire as i always do manual focus, amd focus by wire never feels right to me.. This might be my main reason and deal breaker..
You can use linear autofocus with S5ii, which is much better then mechanical focus, because you can define the focus throw youself. I like to have around 3 cm ring travel to cover my usable focus range of let's say between 1m and 10 meters. You can forget about this with mechanical photo lenses (there are few exceptions)
@@ryszardzokowski812 Hey, could you confirm if all focus throw options work for Sigma 24-70 on your panasonic s5ii? I never tried it with a SIGMA, I own only Lumix lenses, and the properly working LINEAR mode is a deal-breaker for me. Thanks ! :)
@@manescuemanuel1536 there is a setting with face detection but just for the center of the frame. They need a firmware update to tighten up the algorithm for autofocus. You might find it jumping to another face you don't intend on being the subject.
@@TheHybridShooter oh ok no problem, thanks for the review and reply it was super helpful. I was looking to buy one along with A7IV. Hence these questions
Because it is not a cine lens, "jerks" when changing aperture are to be expected with a non-cine standard zoom lens... there is no reason to mention it.
You can phisiclly feel when s5II switches to DFD AF if you have sigma lenses. In PDAF its nice and smooth, in DFDAF it struggles and cracking. try FHD 50p vs 25 p full frame mode.
Hi, once I heard E-mount Lenses have more vignietting what it casued by not enought large diameter of E-mount, could You please compare this lens vignieting between L-mount and E-mount?
@@TheHybridShooter ok, then there is probably an issue, hopefully they will fix it - dfd should be a 'precalculation' for focusing and for sure it should not work as you demonstrated. dfd on m43 is in real world helping just with tracking autofocus, one-point autofocus is not improved (noticable) at all.
Not really. Yes, it should, but it doesn’t mean that it will work perfectly. It was just as bad with the first S5. The solution is to enable PDAF in AF-S mode, not to fix something with DFD.
I bought the E mount version and was quite disappointed with its performance. It was very soft in the corners and didn’t have the same contrast as my other Sigma lenses. I returned it for the 24-70 GMii. Could I have just gotten a bad copy? Am shooting on an A7iv.
WARNING! The Bokeh on this lens wide open is not at all creamy when the depth of field isn't that great, so, often, closer to 24mm it's super jarring for bokeh, nothing soft about it. When the depth of field increases greatly like in the samples shown, it starts mushing out, and that is the same with most lenses and nothing special. So yes, it "can" be creamy, but compared to most lenses it's often jarring as heck.
@@TheHybridShooter I have a variety of zoom lenses Several on m4/3 system but also the full frame panny 20-60, and sigma 150-600, and a bunch of vintage cannon lenses. This one by far has the most frantic looking shallow depth of field, bar maybe one of the vintage lenses. Maybe worth exploring in a video between different lenses for your self :) Who knows, maybe I just got a trash copy of the lens.
@@MarchalisVan I totally disagree, the bokeh is above average with one, people generally like it a lot, your complaint is the first one that I came across.
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Thank you for this video! I've been interested in this since my S1 + Lumix 24-70 f/2.8 is such a hefty combo. I love Panasonic's 24-70 but only really opted for that one because of the focus clutch. But now the S5ii + Sigma 24-70 is really tempting for an equal but significantly lighter combo
I recently picked it up along with s1r, love it!
I really have been thinking about that camera for awhile!
Amazing lens, I recently bought this one second hand. However, I noticed that the focus ring is pretty smooth, almost to smooth if that make sense. It’s very touch sensitive. I own also the sigma 35mm 1.4 and that focus ring is pretty rough, not so smooth at all so I’m a bit confused.
Question: is it normal that it’s super sensitive focus ring on the 24-70mm ?
Damn! The exact combo I am looking at. Stop tempting me! Haha. I'm a "happy" canon r6 w/24/105f4 shooter. But this combo looks SO good!
Did you ever switch? Haha
@@AlexCruzHaha I stayed with Canon. Just really like their bodies. I'm now on R5 and added a 100-500 too. If I was back a few years though before going full frame, I'd strongly consider Panasonic. The value is hard to beat.
thank you very much, your reviews help me a lot. I just bought one of this for my S5 M2.
Exactly! Exactly, this is the zoom lens and camera combo I was hoping to find on the internet. Thanks for your review. Sounds like u really like the Sigma 24-70 f2.8 paired up with the Panasonic-Lumix S5II. Have you attempted to utilize this combo inside an art museum getting shots of oil paintings. If so, how did it work out? 😎😎
No, I haven't tried that, sorry :)
Is the weight in hand significant compared to the 28-75 on the s5ii? Also, how do you manage sharing nd filters between it and the 67mm threaded primes? Step up filter? thanks!
What gimbal were you using ?
This combination good enough for sports and event photography?
Depends on your definition of good enough.
lovely review. Im currently shooting fuji but want to invest in the s5ii with this lens. Is the afs focusing bad? has it improved in any way since the launch of the camera?
It was when I tested it, as you can see in the video, I don't have this lens anymore, so I can't tell you whether it has improved.
Great review! I’ve been using this lens with the S5 at work (museum) for both photo and video with really pleasant results. One thing I do find a bit challenging though - especially with manual focus for video - is the focus ring smoothness; it could have a bit more stiffness/resistance for my taste.
As far as I know, SIGMA does enable their L-mount lenses (via a firmware update) to have their focus throw changed in the camera settings. I haven’t tried that because I don’t have the SIGMA firmware-adapter piece…
Not 24-70mm, but the SIMGA 28-70mm is another great choice with great image quality/value for money for the L-mount (way smaller and lighter).
All L mount lenses as far as I’m aware actually get their firmware updates directly from the camera. So when you go to firmware update section in the camera, it should automatically install the newest lens firmware if you have the files on the sd card.
How to tell early copies from more recent copies? There's a secondhand one at a local camera shop but how to tell if the dust issue has been fixed? Is there a serial number range?
Yes, there is, you should be able to find it online.
Dobrý den chtěl jsem se zeptat na váš názor . Chtěl bych o kategorii výše a mám dilema vzít li tady tu kombinaci kterou máte zde se sigmou anebo koupit Canon r5 s adapterem pro ef lenses které mám dvě ale chci si ponechat starší Canon jako druhou kameru děkuji za odpověď a přeji vše dobré do Bratislavy
S5 II a R5 sú fotoaparáty z rozdielnych kategórii a za úplne inú cenu, takže je ťažké ich porovnávať. S5 II je primárne určený na pokročilú tvorbu videa, R5 je primárne high-res fotoaparát, takže záleží na čo to chcete používať.
Cestou adaptovaných objektívov by som dlhodobo nešiel, novšie slká pre mirorrless sú výrazne lepšie.
Hi! Im really in pain right now trying to figure it out if I go with the 24-70 2.8 or the 24-105 4.0. Do you think F4 is a deal braker for low light in the S5ii? Loved your content. Keep it up.
Go...2.8
What did you pick in the end? I’m in the same situation
Didn't have a budget for multiple lenses so opted for this until I can get more. However, I've to find that this does the job very well. Don't need another lens for a while.
Yeah, this lens is ideal for that kind of scenario.
Thanks!
"the dust issues have been resolved"... when was that? Which models / which serial number ranges are "safe"?
There is serial number range, you can find it online.
Hello sir can you please test adapted Sigma 70-200 f2.8 sport for ef mount on S5 II body??
No, I can't, sorry about that.
@@TheHybridShooter thanks for letting me know love your work
I'm using Panasonic s1 and Sigma 24-70 I'm fine in s mode when shooting video, but I hear noise in c mode and I wonder if it's normal
Why would you shoot video in S mode? I use it with my S1, but I am always in manual mode. With S1 in C mode, you may hear the noise because the autofocus in S1 sucks. With my S5iix, it is silent.
Check the focal length in the bookmark again. Otherwise great review as always 👍
Nice, thank you
Would love to know your thoughts on the sigma 28-70 in comparisson.
My pleasure!
I have never tested 28-70, so I can’t tell you much about that.
Please test it, pleaseee:)
Great review! I would like to see a comparison of how the newest cameras perform in low light (24MP vs 33MP or higher like the Sony a7R5 at 61MP).
Thank you! I have already done that, for example in my A7R IV vs A7 IV comparison.
I love my sigma 18-35 purely because of its optical focus. Thinking of switching to S5ii and this 24-70 lens, but I can't stand focus by wire as i always do manual focus, amd focus by wire never feels right to me.. This might be my main reason and deal breaker..
You can get Panasonic 24-70 with focus clutch... if it is worth $900 to you.
With S5II you can change focus between linear and non-linear with latest firmware to sigma 24-70 mm
You can use linear autofocus with S5ii, which is much better then mechanical focus, because you can define the focus throw youself. I like to have around 3 cm ring travel to cover my usable focus range of let's say between 1m and 10 meters. You can forget about this with mechanical photo lenses (there are few exceptions)
@@ryszardzokowski812 Hey, could you confirm if all focus throw options work for Sigma 24-70 on your panasonic s5ii? I never tried it with a SIGMA, I own only Lumix lenses, and the properly working LINEAR mode is a deal-breaker for me. Thanks ! :)
I have this exact same set-up. Autofocus is pretty good and is sharp. Absolutely love this combo
how about this combo 24-70 with S5ii at events with many people on ronin with af-c?
@@manescuemanuel1536 there is a setting with face detection but just for the center of the frame. They need a firmware update to tighten up the algorithm for autofocus. You might find it jumping to another face you don't intend on being the subject.
Face detection works anywhere in the frame. If it is jumping, set it more towards lock-on.
@@TheHybridShooter how can i lock on a subject?
@@TheHybridShooter can you explain please?
Any idea how this lens compares to the Lumix 24-105 in terms of sharpness at F4?
You won't see much difference in terms of sharpness on a 24 MP sensor.
Amazing! I will buy it, i'm saving money, and I have to sell some things, but I want it for my S5, i'm using all my canon glass
Thanks!
What are your preferred autofocus settings?
Default settings, AF-C.
What about the dust problem with this lens? Did Sigma fix it yet? Please suggest.
I have talked about that it the video.
@@TheHybridShooter yup got it, thanks for the reply though 😊
@the hybrid shooter: But i was also seeing in the internet that people are still facing same issue post the fix as well? Is it true?
@@TheVamc1987 I don't know, I don't own post fix copy.
@@TheHybridShooter oh ok no problem, thanks for the review and reply it was super helpful. I was looking to buy one along with A7IV. Hence these questions
Why didn't you say anything about jerks when changing the aperture?
Because it is not a cine lens, "jerks" when changing aperture are to be expected with a non-cine standard zoom lens... there is no reason to mention it.
@@TheHybridShooter I have used Sony cameras with Tamron and Sony lenses for many years and there is no such problem when changing the aperture.
Sony and Tamron lenses behave the same way, I have just tried it.
You can phisiclly feel when s5II switches to DFD AF if you have sigma lenses. In PDAF its nice and smooth, in DFDAF it struggles and cracking. try FHD 50p vs 25 p full frame mode.
Hi, once I heard E-mount Lenses have more vignietting what it casued by not enought large diameter of E-mount, could You please compare this lens vignieting between L-mount and E-mount?
dfd is just for pana lens, right?
I think that there are DFD profiles for Sigma L-mount lenses.
@@TheHybridShooter ok, then there is probably an issue, hopefully they will fix it - dfd should be a 'precalculation' for focusing and for sure it should not work as you demonstrated.
dfd on m43 is in real world helping just with tracking autofocus, one-point autofocus is not improved (noticable) at all.
Not really. Yes, it should, but it doesn’t mean that it will work perfectly. It was just as bad with the first S5. The solution is to enable PDAF in AF-S mode, not to fix something with DFD.
Please make more videos about S5 Mark II with sigma lenses.
Unfortunately, I don't intend to review more Sigma lenses with the S5 II.
I bought the E mount version and was quite disappointed with its performance. It was very soft in the corners and didn’t have the same contrast as my other Sigma lenses. I returned it for the 24-70 GMii. Could I have just gotten a bad copy? Am shooting on an A7iv.
100% deflective unit. As you can see in my review with A7R IV it is extremely sharp lens across the frame.
WARNING! The Bokeh on this lens wide open is not at all creamy when the depth of field isn't that great, so, often, closer to 24mm it's super jarring for bokeh, nothing soft about it. When the depth of field increases greatly like in the samples shown, it starts mushing out, and that is the same with most lenses and nothing special. So yes, it "can" be creamy, but compared to most lenses it's often jarring as heck.
What did you expect? It is more adequate for F2.8 zoom lens. Get an F1.2 prime if you want hyper “creamy” bokeh.
@@TheHybridShooter I have a variety of zoom lenses Several on m4/3 system but also the full frame panny 20-60, and sigma 150-600, and a bunch of vintage cannon lenses. This one by far has the most frantic looking shallow depth of field, bar maybe one of the vintage lenses. Maybe worth exploring in a video between different lenses for your self :) Who knows, maybe I just got a trash copy of the lens.
@@MarchalisVan I totally disagree, the bokeh is above average with one, people generally like it a lot, your complaint is the first one that I came across.
Excellent review! zooms suck.
Thank you! No, they don't. This excellent zoom is another confirmation.