@@SnipperKINGboi then you don’t understand the true Thanksgiving…probably just fed some left wing trash America bull 💩 America bad…everybody else righteous
There are so many Americans that do not celebrate Thanksgiving because of the story of the pilgrims coming and allegedly pillaging the town and killing off the Native Americans to take their land. This video makes it seem like the pilgrims and the Native Americans actually got along and celebrated each other's culture. What really is the truth?! Or is it a little bit of both that happened?!
It was a peaceful celebration of two diverse cultures coming together for mutual benefit and that flourished into peace which lasted about 50 years. However…times change and so did the world.
It was a celebration of two cultures trying to coexist. But Europeans were so unsanitary that any contact with them made you sick with diseases. Almost instantly. Europe constantly went through black ages with horrible diseases, that killed thousands of people.
@@RobertVincentMusic thank you for your insightful contribution to the conversation…try doing some actual historical research instead of being a divisive bot 🤖
@@rogerbuesing9374lol. Fairytales like this is exactly why they don’t want to teach about slavery , genocide, the Holocaust and the REAL Christopher Columbus in school. Hence why they want to dissolve the department of education. 😂
Understanding Thanksgiving Zach 11: 5 🦃🪶🎃🔪🩸 Whose POSSESSORS SLAY THEM, and HOLD THEMSELVES NOT GUILTY: and👉🏽 THEY THAT SELL THEM SAY, 👉🏽Blessed be the Lord; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.
@@reyway12 you do realize Adonai gave the lands of Israel to the Jews but they still had to go in and dispossess Gods enemies in order to claim the land??? That’s how nations came into existence all throughout history!!!
I want to know what and why do celebrate Thanksgiving? Do we celebrate it for the history of the past? Do we celebrate for being Thankful to God for the food on our tables (while the low income and homeless starve)? Do we celebrate for being thankful for a warm home to live in and clothes on our backs ( while many die in the harsh cold of winter from having poor housing or living on the streets)? Do we celebrate for having good health (while many get sick and die from have poor living conditions and living on the streets)? When I am talking about the homeless, I am not talking about the illegal migrants that crossed into America illegally. I am talking about the people that are Americans that have been here for years and those that are forced to lived in low income housing because the area they live in does not have enough employement. Think about the homeless and low income Americans and it will give a whole new perspective on what we all have to be thankful for and how rich we are in our life. I have lived in homeless shelter, low income and in Section 8. I raised my son's as a single mom after divorced and taught my sons how to be successful and they grew up to have careers and are upright citizens of America. I took what God blessed me with and earned a masters degree at 56. It is never to late there is still hope. But in the meantime let us not hate on the Americans that are in low income and are the real American homeless. Because some of them are the hereos of America that fought for our country. God bless them all and peace along with kindness be wherever they are in this nation.
As someone who's born in Australia with very close Native American heritage (Seneca, it's my grandpa) I have native friends and white friends from America. And I saw on thanksgivings, that my white friend had posted happy thanksgiving and posted photos of her food. and my petty ahh said, "I don't celebrate thanksgiving, because it wisher genocide on my people." And she just liked it. And I left it for a few hours, and then I texted her and said, "Do you even though whwt thanksgiving is actually about?" And she said, "Yeah, food, friends and family, board games, etc. That's all I know." And I told her the truth and she said, "No, type it up. It says nothing like that on google." And I sent her everything, and she just liked it and ignored it. And I said, "I would probably believe me as a Native yk." And she left me on seen ever since. 😂
The story given above is the difference between social studies and history. The part that was left out is the fact that William Bradford realize the socialistic system they had for growing crops and sharing in a commune did not work because there was no incentive to do so, but William Bradford changed to a capitalistic free market system, things changed for the better. The pilgrims were so successful that they had enough leftover to pay for their voyage across the sea to those in London and which they made a deal with. Even more important was it started the migration west to what we call the United States of America today. That's right without free market capitalism causing the expansion West in a new market the world would not look the same today.
The first Thanksgiving was the result of the friendly and peaceful interactions of the Mayflower Pilgrims (from several of whom I am directly descended). The later violent conflicts are another story and were perpetrated by later arrivals who were not part of the Mayflower community.
Christmas and Easter are pagan holidays, they have absolutely no connection with the true history birth or resurrection of Messiah. You want to honor him? Celebrate His true 7 feasts! Read the Bible from the beginning!
@ Amen! Yeshua’s real birthday is Nisan 1 I don’t celebrate Christmas as His Birth so much but as a joyous brotherly celebration of mankind finding peace through Christ! The Resurrection is the Resurrection though. Without which we are eternally lost
I can’t help but reflect on the words to one of my favorite Disney songs, “Colors of the Wind “ the version that was sung by by Vanessa Williams. 🌬️🍂🍃🎶
Just like the Christmas truce of WW1, we should actually celebrate when we as humans pull our collective heads out of collective A$$, give thanks to God above, and realize we are all human. We would do much be if we'd all live by the golden rule. Thanksgiving is a miracle. This year, I am going to give thanks for the Indians and Pilgrims, that even if it was only three days of feasting, festival, and peace.
You asked for the truth and here it is. The first encounter took place on a beach now called First Encounter Beach on Cape Cod. The Naussets who were the first to encounter the Pilgrims shot arrows at them, and the Pilgrims returned with gun fire. The Pilgrims later met Squanto who had been to England and was able to speak English. His entire tribe had been decimated by disease, and he became a go between the Wampanoag Nation, and the English. There are some who believe that the "First Thanksgiving" is fictional, however, there was an alliance between the English and the Wampanoag and the English settlers, came to their military aid, when they were put under siege by their traditional enemies. This intercession saved the Wampanoag from themselves being decimated. After a long a twisted history we come to modern times, when The Trump administration took away federal recognition and ordered the tribe's land be taken out of trust status in March 2020. A get even from when Trump want to build a casino in the area and could not get a license.
Maybe it's just me that time of festivity and unity sounds pretty damn amazing and worth remembering and celebrating especially amongst people with such differences from very different worlds. Im listening to thing thinking how amazing this is while hearing them say in this video how it's not that great. If this isn't an amazing and great story, I don't know what is
@rachellee5818 thats like saying i should speak to a black guy to get the point of view of black slavery. How on earth would a black person today be able to begin to comprehend what being an American slave was like?
You're correct. It is amazing. To play down the greatness of the event because of atrocities that came later by hands of other people is cynicism. The crimes and tragedies of life are all the more reason to celebrate an occasion like Thanksgiving which gives us a glimpse of humanity rising above the sinister elements of our nature for unity, even if but for a moment.
Nathaniel Philbrick's "Mayflower" is the definitive history book on the Pilgrims to include King Phillip's War. I suspect his work is source material for their book and this video.
I still teach my children to celebrate the Mayflower, the Pilgrims, and God's Providence in allowing Western Civilization to take root in North America.
Not off the Mayflower. In Virginia. First Thanksgiving observed at Berkeley Hundred 1619, two years before the Pilgrims even left for America. Jamestown had been settled 13 years before the pilgrims and had spread into the Hundreds. Later moving the colonial "capital" to Williamsburg. Berkeley became Berkeley Plantation, home to President William Henry Harrison, called Tippecanoe. President campaign slogan "Tippecanoe and Tyler too." John Tyler was his vice President and also his next-door neighbor. Current sitting Presidents visit Berkeley at Thanksgiving time to mark the occasion.
@@dgreensotr Fantastic. You need to visit Berkeley Plantation and Jamestown. Both open to public. Remarkable to stand there so many generations later. Bet Thanksgiving has extra value for you. You might well be related to a founding family of Virginia.
Migration is what formed the countries and nations of the world. By the way, the first thanks giving was Spanish and celebrated with a mass as they discovered Florida or settled in Mexico….
Not all the settlers were evil or prejudice. So they cant all be lumped in the same category. There were some good settlers who lived in peace with the Native Americans. The pilgrims were escaping England because of religious persecution.
I think it’s interesting how people who make comments like this never know that the word they’re looking for is “prejudiced” not “prejudice”. Prejudice is a noun, prejudiced is an adjective. Pretty sure no one ever claimed that literally everyone was “evil” considering the children born into this society had no choice in the matter. However, yes, all the adult white settlers were “prejudiced” as they had pre conceived assumptions about the natives.
@@feelthejoyas did the natives about the settlers but they both worked together for mutual benefit including survival and protection! If you’re looking for grammatical correctness on RUclips 😂😂😂 😂😂
The United States Celebrating a holiday of unity and thanksgiving. What I love about the USA. This thanksgiving is more special and praying for peace and unity.
It’s the truth-actual history. A lot of what’s quoted here is revisionist history. The Pilgrims did what millions have done since before recorded history-they established a settlement.
What a politically correct version. I know it's hard for people to acknowledge that the pilgrims were thankful to God for helping half of them survive through the first year. I know you want to glorify the Indians who didn't have a written language. Didn't even invent the wheel and were killing each other all the time and I'm not against them but that's just the truth. Nobody can help a disease coming from anywhere. They're going to get it sooner or later as we got it from the Africans into Europe and killed multitudes so it went from Europe to the Americas. But the idea is you forget God. He's going to forget you stop manipulating history. You didn't even say they actually landed in Provincetown and moved over. You didn't mention a thing about the Mayflower compact and its references to God Almighty and the furtherance of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Of course not never can be said cuz you won't tell the truth. Stick with the truth. Stick with true history and stop okay. A resident of the area of Plymouth, Massachusetts
Yeah it's like that here in Australia, the Left shoving all their anti British colonial Crap down our throats. The indigenous population could have had It worse like the bloody Spanish in south America or the Dutch in South Africa. Good to see Trump won a traditional American president with British ancestry.
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I have been to the Plimoth Plantation Museum (how it use to be spelled) in Massachusetts. The Wampanoag have a demonstration area as well as the colonist section of the living museum. The natives paint a different picture of the Thanksgiving and the pilgrims. When the pilgrims first arrived, they stumbled upon the Wampanoag's version of in-ground food storage. They raided the Wampanoag's winter supply. Based on the native narrative, I suspect that the pilgrims did not respect the natives as much as history recounts. The pilgrims saw the natives as more of a resource or temporary allies to use until they were no longer useful.
Way of the world. The natives also benefited from assistance and protection from rival native tribes. The 1st Thanksgiving led to a peaceful mutual relationship for 50 years.
The Mayflower crew loathed these passengers, who left parental duties and chores to the crew while they argued over Scripture. Why Americans adore these people I'll never know....propaganda?
Thanksgiving is a Sabbat, holy day, for the Gaelic wiccans since about the 2nd or 3rd century. The protested nicene Church of England adopted this pagan holy day. The pilgrims and puritans brought it to the New World and renamed it Thanksgiving. The fact remains, it’s a Harvest festival for the god Lugh. Mark 7: 8, 9 - “You let go of the commandment of God and cling to the tradition of men. [Jesus] said to them: You skillfully disregard the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition” Exodus 34: 14 - “You must not bow down to another god, for YHWH is known for requiring exclusive devotion. Yes, he is a God who requires exclusive devotion.”
Um, does it say how would you like to get a deeper understanding of history? When this story is incorrect? First English Thanksgiving was not with the Pilgrims. Wow. Dec 4, 1619, Berkeley Hundred. Ever hear of Jamestown, 13 years before the Pilgrims? The Hundreds, settlements of English, before the Pilgrims? Followed a bit later by Williamsburg? Anything ring a bell?
Ever hear of St Augustine FL 56 years earlier? There were numerous historical Thanksgiving celebrations recorded…our recognized celebration comes from 1621
Yes, I have. As I said in my post I was talking about the first ENGLISH thanksgivng. No actually check out the gov, presidents go to Berkeley. It was a prayer service not originally a meal. For example, JFK recognized Berkeley as site as first thanksgiving. Again, they are referring to english. When Bush visited 2007 to acknowledge the site of the first Thanksgiving.
They weren’t seeking freedom. They originally fled to the Netherlands. The Netherlands had freedom of religion. They lived in Leiden for a decade. Then a group decided to leave the Netherlands because they thought the Dutch were too liberal, and their children would learn “bad” habits.
They came to America because places like England were too liberal for them and they wanted to teach their religious ideas and persecute those who didn't agree.
Understanding Thanksgiving Zach 11: 5 🦃🪶🎃🔪🩸 Whose POSSESSORS SLAY THEM, and HOLD THEMSELVES NOT GUILTY: and👉🏽 THEY THAT SELL THEM SAY, 👉🏽Blessed be the Lord; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.
It would be nice and better to get the facts and history, without having other people "climbing on the Cross" to corrupt and promote their own religious and social culture! 😢😞
Great Lies 1Hatverting was of the Heabs and Food at a time of Season to get the type of Indians who were there was ? And the new flot in lost sick people due to distance from where ever they came from sick hungry dead disrespect the land place they winded at and we a People's there then are not dog mad now.
Natives were also thankful for the settlers protection from waring tribes! Settlers shared their bounty thanking God for their abundance and divine intervention through the natives! Not one sided as you would like to portray.
@votehuss4833 sir. R u speaking of ancient humans. If that's the case my ancestors developed here in the Pleistocene era. ..or if u really want to get nerdy my ancestors come form ancient Mesopotamia ....to nerd it up even further my creators came from Nibiru or planet X...soooo yeah my ancestors were already here by then before the arrival of the Vikings and pilgrims...and yes. It was a going away party but no one left
The origin of the myth of Thanksgiving comes from Jamestown; not Plymouth and the myth is the complete opposite of the truth.. Jamestown was founded 13 years before Plymouth in 1607. What happened was the colonists were invited to a ceremonial peace dinner given in honor of the Jamestown inhabitants by the natives who decided to welcome these interlopers into the New World.. At the dinner they treacherously poisoned the local King of the Chesapeake Tribe, and killed all of his family. 200 American Natives all told, died of the poisoning, This is where the American myth of Thanksgiving originally actually comes from.
@@rogerbuesing9374 Numerous sources over 20-30 years ago before the internet became a censorship machine. Books... over 30 years ago. Documentaries of first anthropological digs and discoveries. That was only one of the horrors of Jamestown. I don't save sources; I just save the facts. I will however give you an excerpt from my book concerning Jamestown. "The skeleton of a young Cornish Englishman was found in a shallow grave inside the fort; killed by a European firearm. North American natives did not have firearms. It showed how the murderers hidden inside their ranks used the rat poison called rats bane on their own crew and settlement. Rat’s bane that was used for the rats on the ship… was used to poison the entire settlement of human rats in the fort just after the ships were gone. The instant the ships returning to England went out of sight, some of them fell unaccountably deathly ill from obvious intentional poisoning. The written account tells starkly of the insane babblings of poisoned victims; one inmate running out into the middle of the fort stark naked, screaming that there was no God…."
Sounds like you made it up. So maybe you can poison a few people, but what is gonna motivate person #173 to eat the poison after everyone else got poisoned and died. Maybe they did synchronized eating back then
@@YouT00ber No: I am not making this up. During that time in England there was a huge social phenomenon going on. due to the discovery of new chemicals and poisons. One of these new chemicals was arsenic. It was used in ships to kill rats... Before the discovery of this chemical that could be manufactured on a mass level cheap enough for ordinary people to buy it; Ships had been plagued with the problem of rats eating the stores, chewing holes into barrels, chewing on ropes for the salt and generally being noxious pests. When arsenic became commercially available; every ship that set out on a long voyage carried a supply of it. It was called Ratbane, or Rat's bane. This gave ordinary people the opportunity to secretly poison anyone they didn't like. If you study the history of England in the 1600's; you will find there is a huge increase of poisonings. But since you are so illiterate and have Attention Deficit Disorder Syndrome; you won't be able to read this entire post without your head hurting, so I won't write anymore.
The Pilgrims left England to escape’ religious prosecution’ and took it to new levels on a new shore. They were not the heroes some want them to be …. Thanksgiving is like celebrating Hitler’s birthday.
So I guess you agree then that the current illegal immigrants are invaders as well? BTW, the native American culture was savage paganism with child sacrifice, etc and deserved to be suppressed.
I definitely don't celebrate Thanksgiving... I'm not celebrating something based on a group of ppl that decided to UNDERHAND another group of ppl
@@SnipperKINGboi then you don’t understand the true Thanksgiving…probably just fed some left wing trash America bull 💩 America bad…everybody else righteous
There are so many Americans that do not celebrate Thanksgiving because of the story of the pilgrims coming and allegedly pillaging the town and killing off the Native Americans to take their land. This video makes it seem like the pilgrims and the Native Americans actually got along and celebrated each other's culture. What really is the truth?! Or is it a little bit of both that happened?!
It was a peaceful celebration of two diverse cultures coming together for mutual benefit and that flourished into peace which lasted about 50 years. However…times change and so did the world.
It was a celebration of two cultures trying to coexist. But Europeans were so unsanitary that any contact with them made you sick with diseases. Almost instantly. Europe constantly went through black ages with horrible diseases, that killed thousands of people.
@@rogerbuesing9374😂😂😂
@@RobertVincentMusic thank you for your insightful contribution to the conversation…try doing some actual historical research instead of being a divisive bot 🤖
@@rogerbuesing9374lol. Fairytales like this is exactly why they don’t want to teach about slavery , genocide, the Holocaust and the REAL Christopher Columbus in school. Hence why they want to dissolve the department of education. 😂
my granddaughter askme if I had a fun time at the first Thanksgiving. I am 42
Kids say the darn dest things!😂
😂😂😂
She is not wrong. How would you describe W. Bradford?
You have a granddaughter and you're 42??? I am 48 and I now feel so old!
@@lorimast OH dont feel that way
“In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.” -1 Thessalonians 5:18 KJV
Be THANKFUL EVERYDAY.
Completely out of context. I guess we should also give thanks for genocide as well??? Clown.
Understanding Thanksgiving
Zach 11: 5 🦃🪶🎃🔪🩸
Whose POSSESSORS SLAY THEM, and HOLD THEMSELVES NOT GUILTY: and👉🏽 THEY THAT SELL THEM SAY, 👉🏽Blessed be the Lord; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.
@@reyway12 you do realize Adonai gave the lands of Israel to the Jews but they still had to go in and dispossess Gods enemies in order to claim the land??? That’s how nations came into existence all throughout history!!!
@@reyway12 this was judgement of the worthless shepherd who abandons the sheep…read on until the end of the chapter
I want to know what and why do celebrate Thanksgiving? Do we celebrate it for the history of the past? Do we celebrate for being Thankful to God for the food on our tables (while the low income and homeless starve)? Do we celebrate for being thankful for a warm home to live in and clothes on our backs ( while many die in the harsh cold of winter from having poor housing or living on the streets)? Do we celebrate for having good health (while many get sick and die from have poor living conditions and living on the streets)? When I am talking about the homeless, I am not talking about the illegal migrants that crossed into America illegally. I am talking about the people that are Americans that have been here for years and those that are forced to lived in low income housing because the area they live in does not have enough employement. Think about the homeless and low income Americans and it will give a whole new perspective on what we all have to be thankful for and how rich we are in our life. I have lived in homeless shelter, low income and in Section 8. I raised my son's as a single mom after divorced and taught my sons how to be successful and they grew up to have careers and are upright citizens of America. I took what God blessed me with and earned a masters degree at 56. It is never to late there is still hope. But in the meantime let us not hate on the Americans that are in low income and are the real American homeless. Because some of them are the hereos of America that fought for our country. God bless them all and peace along with kindness be wherever they are in this nation.
Being thankful for what we have doesn't mean we hate those who don't have the same blessings.
@@nancystockwell7829 exactly! Even Yeshua (Jesus) said the poor will be with you always…
A few years ago, google said the first Thanksgiving was in England. It doesnt say that anymore...
Turkey pumpkin and cranberries were all native foods
@@charlesbauer7493 of course…Door Dash didn’t exist back then 😳
Why did the Pilgrim's have trouble keeping their pants from falling down ?
Because they wore their belts on their hats. 😄
The pilgrims spawned into the world on challenge mode 💀💀💀
As someone who's born in Australia with very close Native American heritage (Seneca, it's my grandpa)
I have native friends and white friends from America. And I saw on thanksgivings, that my white friend had posted happy thanksgiving and posted photos of her food.
and my petty ahh said, "I don't celebrate thanksgiving, because it wisher genocide on my people." And she just liked it.
And I left it for a few hours, and then I texted her and said, "Do you even though whwt thanksgiving is actually about?"
And she said, "Yeah, food, friends and family, board games, etc. That's all I know."
And I told her the truth and she said, "No, type it up. It says nothing like that on google."
And I sent her everything, and she just liked it and ignored it. And I said, "I would probably believe me as a Native yk."
And she left me on seen ever since. 😂
The story given above is the difference between social studies and history. The part that was left out is the fact that William Bradford realize the socialistic system they had for growing crops and sharing in a commune did not work because there was no incentive to do so, but William Bradford changed to a capitalistic free market system, things changed for the better. The pilgrims were so successful that they had enough leftover to pay for their voyage across the sea to those in London and which they made a deal with. Even more important was it started the migration west to what we call the United States of America today. That's right without free market capitalism causing the expansion West in a new market the world would not look the same today.
@@djaconetta true…and capitalism has set more people free worldwide than any other form of economic system! Happy Thanksgiving!
The first Thanksgiving was the result of the friendly and peaceful interactions of the Mayflower Pilgrims (from several of whom I am directly descended). The later violent conflicts are another story and were perpetrated by later arrivals who were not part of the Mayflower community.
I only celebrate Christmas and Easter Thanksgiving should be every day and get up in the morning. Be thankful to God. History left out a lot.
Why do u celebrate any of it then?
X mass and easter is from darkness as well ... nothing from God ... truth will set u free
@@Green_shore the truth will set you free is in the Bible and it’s all about and from God…His truth..His freedom…His Love
Christmas and Easter are pagan holidays, they have absolutely no connection with the true history birth or resurrection of Messiah. You want to honor him? Celebrate His true 7 feasts! Read the Bible from the beginning!
@ Amen! Yeshua’s real birthday is Nisan 1 I don’t celebrate Christmas as His Birth so much but as a joyous brotherly celebration of mankind finding peace through Christ! The Resurrection is the Resurrection though. Without which we are eternally lost
I can’t help but reflect on the words to one of my favorite Disney songs, “Colors of the Wind “ the version that was sung by by Vanessa Williams. 🌬️🍂🍃🎶
The lyrics do ring true to the Pilgrim's mentality.
@@cocoaorange1 Yes, I agree.
We are all the people and need to live with same rights and privileges for all.
@@BG-kd1ok
All Americans already have equal rights.
Privileges are not guaranteed.
Oh my gosh, how about we learn our original history everyone!
@@Bonnie-h2j what’s sad? 2 diverse cultures coming together for mutual benefit! Worthy of celebration 🦃
Just like the Christmas truce of WW1, we should actually celebrate when we as humans pull our collective heads out of collective A$$, give thanks to God above, and realize we are all human.
We would do much be if we'd all live by the golden rule.
Thanksgiving is a miracle.
This year, I am going to give thanks for the Indians and Pilgrims, that even if it was only three days of feasting, festival, and peace.
You asked for the truth and here it is.
The first encounter took place on a beach now called First Encounter Beach on Cape Cod. The Naussets who were the first to encounter the Pilgrims shot arrows at them, and the Pilgrims returned with gun fire.
The Pilgrims later met Squanto who had been to England and was able to speak English.
His entire tribe had been decimated by disease, and he became a go between the Wampanoag Nation, and the English.
There are some who believe that the "First Thanksgiving" is fictional, however, there was an alliance between the English and the Wampanoag and the English settlers, came to their military aid, when they were put under siege by their traditional enemies. This intercession saved the Wampanoag from themselves being decimated.
After a long a twisted history we come to modern times, when The Trump administration took away federal recognition and ordered the tribe's land be taken out of trust status in March 2020. A get even from when Trump want to build a casino in the area and could not get a license.
Maybe it's just me that time of festivity and unity sounds pretty damn amazing and worth remembering and celebrating especially amongst people with such differences from very different worlds. Im listening to thing thinking how amazing this is while hearing them say in this video how it's not that great. If this isn't an amazing and great story, I don't know what is
" story " is the perfect word. You may want to get Native Americans side of the story
@rachellee5818 thats like saying i should speak to a black guy to get the point of view of black slavery. How on earth would a black person today be able to begin to comprehend what being an American slave was like?
these liberals hate us they hate themselves they hate our history and out country, i think thanksgiving was amazing
You're correct. It is amazing. To play down the greatness of the event because of atrocities that came later by hands of other people is cynicism. The crimes and tragedies of life are all the more reason to celebrate an occasion like Thanksgiving which gives us a glimpse of humanity rising above the sinister elements of our nature for unity, even if but for a moment.
@@andr3wl3vythrough history books maybe you should pick one up and read it because you sound really stupid right now “trying “ to make a point 😂
Nathaniel Philbrick's "Mayflower" is the definitive history book on the Pilgrims to include King Phillip's War. I suspect his work is source material for their book and this video.
🚩🏁🚩🏁 WHAT DO YOU MEAN MUTUAL NEED??? We didn't need them at all. They needed us. Let's be clear about that.
Not sure which side you’re on… all you said is “we”, “us” and “they”. Are you Indigenous? Or no? Lol.
It was a mutually beneficial relationship which lasted for 50 years
LOUDER FOR THE SLOW ONES.
So many different stories and theories, about Thanksgiving, Christmas and other holidays, that most people don't belive or care anymore
What happened to " it was a time of Thanksgiving to God for his provision and protection on the trip to America!!!"
The pilgrims also saw Squanto and the natives as a blessing sent to help them survive…Divine Intervention!
If you went to school and paid attention you wouldn't have to watch this
I still teach my children to celebrate the Mayflower, the Pilgrims, and God's Providence in allowing Western Civilization to take root in North America.
As you should
Erik the Red enters the conversation 😅
Good be proud of it but we are sorry what
Happened to the native Americans.
I had 13 ancestors who sailed on the Mayflower, but only 7 survived to sit at the table at the first thanksgiving.
That’s cool! I had some ancestors that traveled to America around the time of the mayflower, and may have ridden on it.
😂😂😂😂
Not off the Mayflower. In Virginia. First Thanksgiving observed at Berkeley Hundred 1619, two years before the Pilgrims even left for America. Jamestown had been settled 13 years before the pilgrims and had spread into the Hundreds. Later moving the colonial "capital" to Williamsburg. Berkeley became Berkeley Plantation, home to President William Henry Harrison, called Tippecanoe. President campaign slogan "Tippecanoe and Tyler too." John Tyler was his vice President and also his next-door neighbor. Current sitting Presidents visit Berkeley at Thanksgiving time to mark the occasion.
@@Paperista I probably had relatives at that table, as well, but cousins Thomas and William West and Wenman didn't live long enough.
@@dgreensotr Fantastic. You need to visit Berkeley Plantation and Jamestown. Both open to public. Remarkable to stand there so many generations later. Bet Thanksgiving has extra value for you. You might well be related to a founding family of Virginia.
Migration is what formed the countries and nations of the world. By the way, the first thanks giving was Spanish and celebrated with a mass as they discovered Florida or settled in Mexico….
Not all the settlers were evil or prejudice. So they cant all be lumped in the same category. There were some good settlers who lived in peace with the Native Americans. The pilgrims were escaping England because of religious persecution.
I think it’s interesting how people who make comments like this never know that the word they’re looking for is “prejudiced” not “prejudice”. Prejudice is a noun, prejudiced is an adjective.
Pretty sure no one ever claimed that literally everyone was “evil” considering the children born into this society had no choice in the matter. However, yes, all the adult white settlers were “prejudiced” as they had pre conceived assumptions about the natives.
@@feelthejoyas did the natives about the settlers but they both worked together for mutual benefit including survival and protection! If you’re looking for grammatical correctness on RUclips 😂😂😂 😂😂
actually, learned in church thanksgiving goes way back to england, long before it was ever thought of in the US
So it's a English European tradition
Okay .
@@MariaGasca-Reyes nope…Jews were giving Thanks looong before Europeans…many of their festivals are great celebrations of Thanksgiving!!!
The first Thanksgiving happened on September 8, 1565 in St. Augustine, Florida when the Spanish celebrated mass with the Timucuan tribe.
Bleach has always been one of my favorite smells. 🤪
I wonder if Jamestown also had a Thanksgiving?
That's right. 💯💯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
PROVE IT!!!!!😎
Was that before or after they murdered the Houganots?.. sorry about the spelling
The United States Celebrating a holiday of unity and thanksgiving. What I love about the USA. This thanksgiving is more special and praying for peace and unity.
They came here to create a Theocracy not a democracy.
Is that good?
It’s the truth-actual history. A lot of what’s quoted here is revisionist history. The Pilgrims did what millions have done since before recorded history-they established a settlement.
@@frankfinkful No, theocracy, is a government ruled by Religion
What a politically correct version. I know it's hard for people to acknowledge that the pilgrims were thankful to God for helping half of them survive through the first year.
I know you want to glorify the Indians who didn't have a written language. Didn't even invent the wheel and were killing each other all the time and I'm not against them but that's just the truth.
Nobody can help a disease coming from anywhere. They're going to get it sooner or later as we got it from the Africans into Europe and killed multitudes so it went from Europe to the Americas.
But the idea is you forget God. He's going to forget you stop manipulating history.
You didn't even say they actually landed in Provincetown and moved over. You didn't mention a thing about the Mayflower compact and its references to God Almighty and the furtherance of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Of course not never can be said cuz you won't tell the truth.
Stick with the truth. Stick with true history and stop okay.
A resident of the area of Plymouth, Massachusetts
Absolute fact! Well said 👍
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Yeah it's like that here in Australia, the
Left shoving all their anti British colonial
Crap down our throats.
The indigenous population could have had
It worse like the bloody Spanish in south
America or the Dutch in South Africa.
Good to see Trump won a traditional
American president with British ancestry.
If you welcome the devil in was an event.
The devil is a giant man who lives in an underground fire cave, holds a pitchfork and laughs in a booming voice.
Branford’s treaty & peace lasted for about 50 years.
The shaky screen and slight flashing make this impossible to watch. 😢
Happy Thanksgiving!!!🙏🥧🦃
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With Remembrance for Native American Heritage Day 🪶
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I have been to the Plimoth Plantation Museum (how it use to be spelled) in Massachusetts. The Wampanoag have a demonstration area as well as the colonist section of the living museum. The natives paint a different picture of the Thanksgiving and the pilgrims. When the pilgrims first arrived, they stumbled upon the Wampanoag's version of in-ground food storage. They raided the Wampanoag's winter supply. Based on the native narrative, I suspect that the pilgrims did not respect the natives as much as history recounts. The pilgrims saw the natives as more of a resource or temporary allies to use until they were no longer useful.
Way of the world. The natives also benefited from assistance and protection from rival native tribes. The 1st Thanksgiving led to a peaceful mutual relationship for 50 years.
Gotta get in on that victim culture.
@rogerbuesing9374 you need to do your research
@@mapopperoozio been done ✅
@@mapopperoozio what part don’t you understand??? I’ll try to walk you thru it
Ok, good they said it, thansksgiving to God.
The Mayflower crew loathed these passengers, who left parental duties and chores to the crew while they argued over Scripture. Why Americans adore these people I'll never know....propaganda?
@@DeannaClark-oo9ut you just spewed a ton of it yourself 💩
Those people were evil and still are
“The dark side of Thanksgiving“ and then immediately starts talking about everything except the first Thanksgiving
Thanksgiving is a Sabbat, holy day, for the Gaelic wiccans since about the 2nd or 3rd century. The protested nicene Church of England adopted this pagan holy day. The pilgrims and puritans brought it to the New World and renamed it Thanksgiving. The fact remains, it’s a Harvest festival for the god Lugh.
Mark 7: 8, 9 - “You let go of the commandment of God and cling to the tradition of men. [Jesus] said to them: You skillfully disregard the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition”
Exodus 34: 14 - “You must not bow down to another god, for YHWH is known for requiring exclusive devotion. Yes, he is a God who requires exclusive devotion.”
If you guys wanr to know the real history go to jon solo he will give you the real history behind thanksgiving
Um, does it say how would you like to get a deeper understanding of history? When this story is incorrect? First English Thanksgiving was not with the Pilgrims. Wow. Dec 4, 1619, Berkeley Hundred. Ever hear of Jamestown, 13 years before the Pilgrims? The Hundreds, settlements of English, before the Pilgrims? Followed a bit later by Williamsburg? Anything ring a bell?
Dude just shut up 😂
Ever hear of St Augustine FL 56 years earlier? There were numerous historical Thanksgiving celebrations recorded…our recognized celebration comes from 1621
Yes, I have. As I said in my post I was talking about the first ENGLISH thanksgivng. No actually check out the gov, presidents go to Berkeley. It was a prayer service not originally a meal. For example, JFK recognized Berkeley as site as first thanksgiving. Again, they are referring to english. When Bush visited 2007 to acknowledge the site of the first Thanksgiving.
Ummm. The pilgrims welcomed them?😂😂😂😂 Any way?
Not all the pilgrims were puratins. Some were not. Was a mixture of.
Talk about illegal immigration
@@victry1nolan319 what laws were broken?
@@rogerbuesing9374trump ancestors came here illegally. Can't you see?
@ Suffering from TDS you are!!!
@ no nation existed…no laws broken🤣🤣👎
@ 🤣🤣🤣 no laws existed…no sovereign nation🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for telling it as it REALLY happened.
Cuz Colonizer Don’t Colonize aka Seek Kill And Destroy..
Boy you can tell which side wrote this "history"
Mullins descendant here
Came to the Americas seeking freedom then denied it to everyone else...and let's not forget about the genocide... remember that this Thanksgiving
They weren’t seeking freedom. They originally fled to the Netherlands. The Netherlands had freedom of religion. They lived in Leiden for a decade. Then a group decided to leave the Netherlands because they thought the Dutch were too liberal, and their children would learn “bad” habits.
They came to America because places like England were too liberal for them and they wanted to teach their religious ideas and persecute those who didn't agree.
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Thanksgivings must be super fun at your house...
Ignorance will get you nowhere.
You should probably learn your history.
Thou shall not kill, turkeys included. What's on your thanksgiving dinner table today?
How many came from the penal colonies throughout Europe to Turtle Island (America)?
Being religious the Pilgrims were celebrating the holiday of Tabernacles or Succoth. It celebrates the harvest.
Understanding Thanksgiving
Zach 11: 5 🦃🪶🎃🔪🩸
Whose POSSESSORS SLAY THEM, and HOLD THEMSELVES NOT GUILTY: and👉🏽 THEY THAT SELL THEM SAY, 👉🏽Blessed be the Lord; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.
@@reyway12 Can you tell me what this sentence is supposed to mean and how it applies to this issue.
Good afternoon
It would be nice and better to get the facts and history, without having other people "climbing on the Cross" to corrupt and promote their own religious and social culture! 😢😞
Ummmmm? We know the truth. Bye.😂
Great Lies 1Hatverting was of the Heabs and Food at a time of Season to get the type of Indians who were there was ? And the new flot in lost sick people due to distance from where ever they came from sick hungry dead disrespect the land place they winded at and we a People's there then are not dog mad now.
WHAT?????
🤬🤬🤬❤ WHITE WASHED VERSION AS USUAL!!!
If native Indians didn't share food to pilgrims. None will survive! Thanksgiving suppose to thanks the native Indians.
Natives were also thankful for the settlers protection from waring tribes! Settlers shared their bounty thanking God for their abundance and divine intervention through the natives! Not one sided as you would like to portray.
😅 Joke
The tribe seems to have stronger Christ like values
How so? Both benefitted from almost 50 years of mostly peaceful relationship.
So this the true meaning of thanksgiving
My ancestors were already here it was a going-away party but they didn't leave
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Your ancestors were not native to this land.
And you are not native to this land either.
@votehuss4833 sir. R u speaking of ancient humans. If that's the case my ancestors developed here in the Pleistocene era. ..or if u really want to get nerdy my ancestors come form ancient Mesopotamia ....to nerd it up even further my creators came from Nibiru or planet X...soooo yeah my ancestors were already here by then before the arrival of the Vikings and pilgrims...and yes. It was a going away party but no one left
The worse thing the natives did was teach the pilgrims how to survive. 😂
Straight facts ✔️
Wampanoag strong 💪🏽
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The origin of the myth of Thanksgiving comes from Jamestown; not Plymouth and the myth is the complete opposite of the truth.. Jamestown was founded 13 years before Plymouth in 1607. What happened was the colonists were invited to a ceremonial peace dinner given in honor of the Jamestown inhabitants by the natives who decided to welcome these interlopers into the New World.. At the dinner they treacherously poisoned the local King of the Chesapeake Tribe, and killed all of his family. 200 American Natives all told, died of the poisoning, This is where the American myth of Thanksgiving originally actually comes from.
I’ve read numerous accounts from the John Smith era of Jamestown and it’s development and have never heard this one…cite your sources please
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Numerous sources over 20-30 years ago before the internet became a censorship machine.
Books... over 30 years ago. Documentaries of first anthropological digs and discoveries. That was only one of the horrors of Jamestown. I don't save sources; I just save the facts.
I will however give you an excerpt from my book concerning Jamestown.
"The skeleton of a young Cornish Englishman was found in a shallow grave inside the fort; killed by a European firearm. North American natives did not have firearms. It showed how the murderers hidden inside their ranks used the rat poison called rats bane on their own crew and settlement. Rat’s bane that was used for the rats on the ship… was used to poison the entire settlement of human rats in the fort just after the ships were gone. The instant the ships returning to England went out of sight, some of them fell unaccountably deathly ill from obvious intentional poisoning. The written account tells starkly of the insane babblings of poisoned victims; one inmate running out into the middle of the fort stark naked, screaming that there was no God…."
Sounds like you made it up. So maybe you can poison a few people, but what is gonna motivate person #173 to eat the poison after everyone else got poisoned and died. Maybe they did synchronized eating back then
@@YouT00ber
No: I am not making this up.
During that time in England there was a huge social phenomenon going on.
due to the discovery of new chemicals and poisons. One of these new chemicals was arsenic.
It was used in ships to kill rats... Before the discovery of this chemical that could be manufactured on a
mass level cheap enough for ordinary people to buy it; Ships had been plagued with the problem of
rats eating the stores, chewing holes into barrels, chewing on ropes for the salt and generally being noxious pests.
When arsenic became commercially available; every ship that set out on a long voyage carried a supply of it.
It was called Ratbane, or Rat's bane. This gave ordinary people the opportunity to secretly poison anyone they didn't like. If you study the history of England in the 1600's; you will find there is a huge increase of poisonings.
But since you are so illiterate and have Attention Deficit Disorder Syndrome; you won't be able to read this entire post without your head hurting, so I won't write anymore.
The Pilgrims left England to escape’ religious prosecution’ and took it to new levels on a new shore.
They were not the heroes some want them to be ….
Thanksgiving is like celebrating Hitler’s birthday.
You need to let go of the hate in your heart
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First 🎉
What I wanna know is why should I have to wait until the fourth Thursday of November or the 25th of December just to eat a freaking turkey????? 🤔
Thanksgiving is the day that Americans fed illegal immigrants from Europe!
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yeah no your an idiot plain and simple
So I guess you agree then that the current illegal immigrants are invaders as well?
BTW, the native American culture was savage paganism with child sacrifice, etc and deserved to be suppressed.
There were no Americans at that time 🤪 No illegal immigration into a nonexistent country!