If they're trying to strafe-aim you, strafe the other way, if they're trying to mouse-aim you, strafe with them. So simple, so deep. It's almost like an entirely separate game with tactics, movement, etc. Now try duelling with grenade launchers only, that might be fun...
Rocket duels on dm17 really require a mutual unspoken agreement that you're there to have fun and bounce on the jumppads while trying to hit cool looking airrockets rather than just trying to win.
The tutorial is aimed at those stuck between tier 3 and 4 and those below mostly, and I've had plenty of people like that and some good tier 4s tell me in-game and in the forum that my written and video tutorial has helped them improve their aim immensely. Of course it will be obvious to someone who already has good aim. There are no secrets to 40% LG other than good gear and practicing moving your mouse at the same speed as your opponent. Sorry if you expected something profound.
Well, the thing is, I agree with the people about the length. If I start making tutorials again (and if I decide to remake the LG tutorial), I'm gonna put a hard limit of 15 minutes on myself.
Dodging rockets is more about paying attention at long range and making your opponent overpredict at short range. Spamming buttons randomly vs rockets is an easy way to catch them with your teeth. The RL in general is the weapon of a patient man.
I tried a scripted video in a video I made after this, and it was a lot more concise. It's kinda hard not to ramble when making an unscripted video. I kinda threw this one together rather hastily since people kept asking me when I was gonna make a lightning gun video. I'm not exactly happy with the result myself.
I'm using my Logitech Desktop Microphone here and recording on my stationary computer. Was recording on my laptop in the railgun tutorial with a headset mic.
T4 player here, 35% LG so nothing special but still OK. Thanks for the tutorial and the effort, it's good stuff there. I remember you suggesting practiing against bots. Just curious: ever tried 1 vs 1 against Hunter on Nightmare, say at Almost Lost? If not, give it a try and avoid circling around her as a way of dodging since this will make it very easy for you (it's a bot after all).Try the usual strafing pattern with changes of directions, lenght of strafing etc. and let me know how it went :)
its the geometry detail of quke i dont know the item in the menu but if you use r_lodbias you can set the detail level if its r_lodbias 3 the weapon should look like this
And yeah, I realized pretty quickly that tacking on that long-ass LG duel was somewhat of a bad idea. That's why I've written how to quickly skip it in the description.
Play against terg some day. He's got like 25 LG and he still ruins everybody's **** using basically nothing but rockets. He's one of Sweden's top CA players. I won't deny LG's popularity among high level CAers, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's overpowered either. There are more than enough rocket and rail masters to prove that wrong.
Not sure, since I don't quite know what you're referring to. Someone asked me a similar question about the RL. Think he found the command. Not sure what video he commented on, though.
Maybe could have used WolfCam for above view in those demo fights for better overview of the strafing patterns used. YOu can rewind there also very easily. And one thing I think is really important with dodging is to never +forward midfight (unless you have the exp) cause from his POV you're moving 30 percent slower. Keep in mind - from his POV you are still moving left to right. I'm not sure about CA but in DUEL it is really important. Often ppl just hit crazy lg because of that.
Nice vid, learnt a lot. Do you plant your wrist when you aim in general, or just move your whole arm? It's been bugging me that strafe aim seems to be easier when the wrist is planted, but mouse aim seems to be easier when I move my whole arm. Thanks for reply
Well, you might wanna get a new pad and a really cheap mouse. Thing about your current mouse is it probably has really worn out mouse skates, which might actually damage a new mouse pad if they're worn enough.
Hey Cat, I'm T3, my rail and rockets are pretty decent and when I'm on, can be up to par with some T4. The thing is my LG accuracy is 17%. Yeah. I use a really shitty 2 yr old mouse (it's a $10 mouse from Walmart) and a 8.5 by 7 in. mousepad (also non-gaming grade quality). I do plan on upgrading both, but for now I only have the money to buy either a new mouse or pad. Which one should I get. I'm leaning towards the pad right now because I can barely 360 without taking my mouse off the pad.
I always had a really hard time getting my lgun up to a high accuracy until I went to quakecon and got to play with 0 ping. I was WRECKING players who I would normally say are way better than me with lgun.
I have a demo of me vs Knoxe_ LG vs LG 1on1 on thunderstruck for the map and I show different kinds of shaft styles if you maybe want to use it to explain some stuff I could sent it to you.
I could post the demo but then I wouldn't be able to explain it anyway. edit: also what do you use to record your demos for youtube? I tried wolfcam but can't get it to look like my QL
He is recording with a program like fraps. if he has chosen to record at 35 fps this most of the time will cap the fps of the game too fit the record. And 70-120 fps is bad. if you can hold a solid 125 or 250 then I feel bad for you.
At first he says he had 60 lg, then he says he had 30. I don't get it. But when he said 'HE WAS STRAFING OPPOSITE DIRECTION' like smth new and epically innovative, that could be put into 30 minutes tutorial... finally i got it... it's a noobvideo, don't waste ur time.
Since I know you're refering to my story about LGing 60_439 for a ridiculously high percentage and then trying it on KazS and finding it didn't work because he was dodging, the only conclusions I can arrive to is that you either have really poor hearing comprehension, a poor understanding of the English language, or both.
If they're trying to strafe-aim you, strafe the other way, if they're trying to mouse-aim you, strafe with them. So simple, so deep. It's almost like an entirely separate game with tactics, movement, etc. Now try duelling with grenade launchers only, that might be fun...
Rocket duels on dm17 really require a mutual unspoken agreement that you're there to have fun and bounce on the jumppads while trying to hit cool looking airrockets rather than just trying to win.
The tutorial is aimed at those stuck between tier 3 and 4 and those below mostly, and I've had plenty of people like that and some good tier 4s tell me in-game and in the forum that my written and video tutorial has helped them improve their aim immensely. Of course it will be obvious to someone who already has good aim. There are no secrets to 40% LG other than good gear and practicing moving your mouse at the same speed as your opponent. Sorry if you expected something profound.
Well, the thing is, I agree with the people about the length. If I start making tutorials again (and if I decide to remake the LG tutorial), I'm gonna put a hard limit of 15 minutes on myself.
Dodging rockets is more about paying attention at long range and making your opponent overpredict at short range. Spamming buttons randomly vs rockets is an easy way to catch them with your teeth. The RL in general is the weapon of a patient man.
those strafe tips were extremely helpful, thanks
I tried a scripted video in a video I made after this, and it was a lot more concise. It's kinda hard not to ramble when making an unscripted video. I kinda threw this one together rather hastily since people kept asking me when I was gonna make a lightning gun video. I'm not exactly happy with the result myself.
I'm using my Logitech Desktop Microphone here and recording on my stationary computer. Was recording on my laptop in the railgun tutorial with a headset mic.
You can set r_lodbias to 2 to change it the way it is set up in this video.
nice! read the guide and have been waiting for this video! helps alot :)
gotta say that I actually learned something from the video, I tested it and it worked for me , so thanks anyway
I've added info about my gear to my channel description.
T4 player here, 35% LG so nothing special but still OK. Thanks for the tutorial and the effort, it's good stuff there. I remember you suggesting practiing against bots. Just curious: ever tried 1 vs 1 against Hunter on Nightmare, say at Almost Lost? If not, give it a try and avoid circling around her as a way of dodging since this will make it very easy for you (it's a bot after all).Try the usual strafing pattern with changes of directions, lenght of strafing etc. and let me know how it went :)
its the geometry detail of quke i dont know the item in the menu but if you use r_lodbias you can set the detail level if its r_lodbias 3 the weapon should look like this
And yeah, I realized pretty quickly that tacking on that long-ass LG duel was somewhat of a bad idea. That's why I've written how to quickly skip it in the description.
Play against terg some day. He's got like 25 LG and he still ruins everybody's **** using basically nothing but rockets. He's one of Sweden's top CA players.
I won't deny LG's popularity among high level CAers, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's overpowered either. There are more than enough rocket and rail masters to prove that wrong.
Not sure, since I don't quite know what you're referring to. Someone asked me a similar question about the RL. Think he found the command. Not sure what video he commented on, though.
Maybe could have used WolfCam for above view in those demo fights for better overview of the strafing patterns used. YOu can rewind there also very easily.
And one thing I think is really important with dodging is to never +forward midfight (unless you have the exp) cause from his POV you're moving 30 percent slower. Keep in mind - from his POV you are still moving left to right. I'm not sure about CA but in DUEL it is really important. Often ppl just hit crazy lg because of that.
Nice vid, learnt a lot. Do you plant your wrist when you aim in general, or just move your whole arm? It's been bugging me that strafe aim seems to be easier when the wrist is planted, but mouse aim seems to be easier when I move my whole arm. Thanks for reply
I think what he meant was the weapon/health/armor HUD
Pasted together bits of EmSixTeen's and Stermy's HUDs, along with some skillrating/accuracy stuff.
Well, you might wanna get a new pad and a really cheap mouse. Thing about your current mouse is it probably has really worn out mouse skates, which might actually damage a new mouse pad if they're worn enough.
Hey Cat, I'm T3, my rail and rockets are pretty decent and when I'm on, can be up to par with some T4. The thing is my LG accuracy is 17%. Yeah. I use a really shitty 2 yr old mouse (it's a $10 mouse from Walmart) and a 8.5 by 7 in. mousepad (also non-gaming grade quality). I do plan on upgrading both, but for now I only have the money to buy either a new mouse or pad. Which one should I get. I'm leaning towards the pad right now because I can barely 360 without taking my mouse off the pad.
I seriously hate the hitbox increases and chances, I used to have dominant LG but lately people seem to be able to hit the same as I do.
Honestly, it varies. I just move the way that feels right.
Oh god, I love PQL+Vampiric Damage. I'm gonna upload a game from that mod soon enough. Have a game from yesterday picked out.
I suck with rockets. People tell me practicing vs bots on Longest Yard is a good way to train air rockets, though.
nice but would be even better if you showed us some fights in complete slowmotion and explained every single dodge and the reason why you did it :)
You should put your config in the desc of your next vid.. I'd like to try it out..
how can I change the Lightning Gun style in Quake 3?
You could up it yourself and put it up as a video response.
I always had a really hard time getting my lgun up to a high accuracy until I went to quakecon and got to play with 0 ping. I was WRECKING players who I would normally say are way better than me with lgun.
I have a demo of me vs Knoxe_ LG vs LG 1on1 on thunderstruck for the map and I show different kinds of shaft styles if you maybe want to use it to explain some stuff I could sent it to you.
Plus, he might've asked it in Swedish.
how to make a clock like here?
what do you mean? continue please
how come the pro players whose biggest strength is LG never rise to the top, then?
I whine about that very fact in-game constantly. Though to be fair, my connection has been a bit derp lately.
Can you make a tutorial on air rockets?
lol just try to keep your cursor on the opponent no matter what :D
No. I record on 35 FPS. I play on 125.
excellent video!! thanks!
so lightening dual is accepted. But when I say Rocket Dual in DM17, it's suddenly a noob way of playing.. lol
Rocket duel in dm17 is amazing
@@KARTIKEYA007 for some, including myself, absolutely, to some "pros" it's not.
But that's not random.
or why is your LG so small and doesn't move when you shoot.
Because LG fights in Vampiric Damage servers last fucking forever.
It's just like dodgeball... with lethal ordinance...
I use QLDT and Fraps.
I could post the demo but then I wouldn't be able to explain it anyway.
edit: also what do you use to record your demos for youtube? I tried wolfcam but can't get it to look like my QL
hey, which mouse are u using, just to know...
cool vids
Thanks for the video.
I have a good designer.
How can u record Quake live?
i got the mousepad (Razor Kabuto) is it a small mousepad?
for example my sensitivity is 1,4 with some mouse accel
its sound kinda shitty but for my mouse is enough
What is your HUD? Where I can download same HUD?
Yea, I'm curious too, what mouse and pad do you use?
And here I'm forced to play on Frankfurt with unstable 50+ ping. v_v
That would be silly. >_>
It's really about reflexes. I'm not cooller.
you'll want more than 35 fps!
this information is useless because it depends on
1. on your system setting
2. your mouse DPI
3. and convenience of playing ;p
Got my new mouse (logitech G400). Do i need a mousepad?
Just send me a request. I accept them all.
how do you get such a designer? :( no but seriously how do u do that
I need about 30cm/360°.
i think he lsot because he has 55 ping
Diabotical Rogue
Ah, thank you :)
Link in profile.
35fps lol i have 70-120 with a 400euros portable using high details
He is recording with a program like fraps. if he has chosen to record at 35 fps this most of the time will cap the fps of the game too fit the record. And 70-120 fps is bad. if you can hold a solid 125 or 250 then I feel bad for you.
Ooooh, 70-120 fps with HIGH DETAILS, very impressive.
hwo do you get such a weapon design?
Fraps...
You don't have a god Lightning fun man :x
Not an FPS.
WHY
Dude, where did u get that config / hud...?!
since when is QL invite only? O_o
It's fun if you hit.
thankyou
How to dodge rockets at close range :s
Pelaaks viel tai lopetitko?
At first he says he had 60 lg, then he says he had 30. I don't get it.
But when he said 'HE WAS STRAFING OPPOSITE DIRECTION' like smth new and epically innovative, that could be put into 30 minutes tutorial... finally i got it... it's a noobvideo, don't waste ur time.
you still play this old games?
ok, thanks :)
Try Prototype 2 ,its very good :)
Hahah true. You ever seen bots duelling with GLs? Hilarious.
Do you really play on 35fps? Why?
Schooller
Since I know you're refering to my story about LGing 60_439 for a ridiculously high percentage and then trying it on KazS and finding it didn't work because he was dodging, the only conclusions I can arrive to is that you either have really poor hearing comprehension, a poor understanding of the English language, or both.
35 fps... only way you;re killing with lg is with a hack. =D
Like you do any better :P
I almost fell asleep while watching that video... seriously man 26 minutes of eeeeeh eeeeeh and silence wtf? oO be more constructive
The new stuff all sucks.
I absolutely learned NOTHING here! This guy is coming across just explaining the fucking abvious constantly.
for example my sensitivity is 1,4 with some mouse accel
its sound kinda shitty but for my mouse is enough