Arby 'n' the Chief Creator Eviscerates the Halo Show | EFAP Highlight
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Jon Graham rants about Paramount's Halo TV series and how it so badly destroys the story of Bungie's landmark video games.
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The fact that I can tell what posable action figures Arby and Chief are emoting during every cut is proof that either new actors can't act, or directors can't direct.
Oh they can act and direct, they just don't want to do the work.
I think Disparu's take is more accurate.
The actor for Chief has a massive ego and uses this role as a resume for future acting gigs and demands to show his range despite it being in-universe retarded.
Or both the actor sucks and the director sucks even more.
Both have grown up with emojis and emoticons 😢
Not mutually exclusive.
You can't develop personalities and tell an enjoyable story with characters who never take their helmet off.
Red vs. Blue: **exists**
Every story that revolves around Washington is so good. Even when it's outlandishly stupid, Shannon plays that character so well that his emotional moments hit like a truck.
@@DUKEzorsAnd this is from a web series that started off completely ridiculous. None of the characters did anything other than bob their heads and pivot their bodies, and yet it was both hilarious and - later - impactful.
@@DUKEzorsWashington proves you can TOTALLY do a masked character and have the depth and complexity you need.
*Halo series: EXISTS.*
Having Mister Cheeks take his helmet off was arrogance, vanity, incompetence, and hubristic spite, nothing more
"V for Vendetta" might also be some evidence that characters who NEVER have a face reveal or facial expressions can absolutely develop a strong personality.
I think about this show in contrast to Samus Returns for the 3DS. Specifically, when Samus meets the Baby. When that hatches, Samus immediately charges her cannon and aims at it... but holds her fire as she watches it happily float around her. We get no shots of her actual face, but one of her Prime HUD as she stares at this chirping lil guy.
And then, having encountered the singular creature on the planet that DIDN'T show any sign of hostility... she turns off her cannon, lowers it, and holds out her hand. And watches the Baby hover over it, chirping in delight, before they make their way out of the caves together.
A one minute scene with infinitely more compelling writing than this show, and you don't hear a WORD of dialogue.
To a fool, subtlety looks like absence. This is why people used to think Master Chief had no character. The silver lining of the Halo TV show is that it highlighted how much of a character Master Chief has by showing us how much harm the inversion of his character does to a story.
And conversely, the scene in Dread where Samus enters a room that huge roars has been coming from. She comes in with her gun raised and ready, only to lower it and go into a relaxed stance as the camera turns and we see Kraid, massive, dangerous, and glaring daggers at her from his three eyes. She doesn't even flinch as he roars at her. She casually charges her gun as he's bellowing in her face and pops him in his mouth. She doesn't even brace herself for the shot. She has absolutely no respect for the giant lizard, and even he knows it.
Dread Reveal Trailer also another good too where u see the Introduction to the new Enemy E.M.M.A
@@Cyberguy64That reminds me of Dredd, another perfect example of helmeted badasses showing understandably reserved emotions. Dude gets hit with an armor piercing bullet, and we see all the pain we need in the way his neck clenches. The judge he is fighitng looks just like him, and yet we can tell the difference by the arrogance in his face vs the sternness of Dredd's chin. And we don't even need his expression to know he is thankful when Anderson lifts him up, all it takes is a nod and the fact that he stops ordering her around as much and allows her to lead in her own capacity. The tone of the way he says "Rookie" even changes.
Do you guys remember when they tried to tell us Halo fans that we were racist because we didn't like Locke!?
Literally everyone's favourite character is Sgt Major Avery Mothafuckin Johnson!
He knows what the ladies like! ... unlike paramount.
My favorite character is Half-Jaw, and he's an alien. That's as not-racist as it gets, man.
If they make a black character and call everyone racist for not liking them, that’s pretty much confirmation that all they cared about was having a black character rather than a character.
The true mascot of Halo is Sergeant! Avery! Junior! Johnson! The legend! The man who knows what the ladies like!
@@TheJcjonesacp HOO RAH!
My favourite scene in the Halo show was when Chief said “It’s Masterin’ time!” then spread his cheeks for the camera and revealed the true halo ring.
Arbiter was dumbstruck and paralyzed upon seeing it 🥴
the more i see this type of meme appearing in every comment section trashing mediocre media, the more i feel like it's purposely done by PR bots.
This is Cortana, she's got my back.
“She’ll cut all you in half with 1 swing. Like mowing the lawn “😂
What is this, some kinda ODST Squad?
Her soul traps the swords of its victims.
@@EFAPHighlights would you advise not getting killed by her?
I would kill not getting advised by her.
The funny thing is, in some of the books, Spartans use sign language to convey feelings, outside of tactical stuff, because of their bulky armour. One suffered from PTSD so bad, she literally can't speak for most of a book. You'd think they'd leap on that as a 'thing' for their diversity quota.
No thatd actually be inclusive. At best wed get a mute woman(no causes mentioned) and no one nnows sign lanhuage
What book was it?
@@davidpowers1175 ghosts of onyx
@@edbo10 such a good book i should re-read it
@@davidpowers1175 Late af reply but the Spartan 2's had their own sign for being generally happy or a "good to see you" just two fingers up to represent a smile in front of their visor. Stuff thatd be cool to see if the show was actually good
3:08 THANK YOU RAGSS! That's what I've been saying since the start of this accursed series. They wanted to tell a story, someone wasn't confident in the script/premise that it'd do well, so they slapped the Halo franchise onto it to get it notoriety/viewers and it has blown up in their face beautifully.
Same thing that happened on Netflix’s Resident Evil. Many such cases…
It gets worse when you hear rumors it was originally a Mass Effect series
Not only did they just slap a franchise on it, they slapped the wrong franchise on it
"I know I'm talking too long here, I'm sorry"
Sir, this is an EFAP
At least he gave the others a chance to talk, unlike E;R. ;)
The "we got the lore from 343" line in retrospect is really funny - because even 343 doesn't know the Halo lore.
I remember my friends playing Halo 4. They told me I probably knew the lore better than 343.
I played a handful of multiplayer matches in Halo 2 and read the title of Fall of Reach.
The show didnt follow the lore at all of the canon
The start of darkness was letting the head forum moderator write terminals in Halo 3.
@@tomtheconqerur he didnt
The terminals where writen by multiple people.
Some vets
@@markss367Yes but Frank O’Connor wrote some as well.
It was the beginning of the end of halo lore
Red vs Blue was the biggest show for it's time and all the characters were helmeted Spartans
And it was filmed IN-GAME for at least 6 seasons.
They could only animate with in game movements.
And it's still more expressive than many live action actors nowadays.
>.> Also look up "Chups Revolution". It's a fun RvB fan project.
@@hariman7727rvb also lasted for literally a decade plus, this show died the moment it’s season ended and then they revived it with dark evil magic!
@@ouchiegiverjr Well… It went on for longer than a decade, but it wasn’t as good for that long though
They needed to hire a costumed mascot actor.
When you can't use your face to act, you get better at using your body language.
"Is it a spider? GET IT OFF!"
Oh, you know. A little show called Power Rangers was able to have characters do emotions with helmets on for 30 years.
Rip JDF
I recall a clip of Kamen Rider that floated around when Halo was airing. Rider is washing clothes and notices a washing machine. You can tell exactly what he's thinking and feeling in that clip without the character taking the mask off.
Well. More Super Sentai than Power Rangers. But we get your meaning.
Really? Power Rangers...
@@daveweinstock
Yes. Problem?
I’m so happy that even Gary Busey knows how bad the halo tv show is
Wait that's not Gary Busey, it's Nick Nolte!
This reminded me of how Luchadors can convey emotion in the ring with a mask on there face
Arby n the Chief at its core started with two action figures with text-to-speech voices and online avatars with no faces making crass jokes, and yet it still told a more dramatic and compelling story than the Halo TV show.
I swear being a teenager watching Arby 'n' the Chief was a surreal experience. It's an exercise of how even the lowest budget can trump the highest budget via actual writing.
I feel so sorry for Halo fans . As someone who loved the original trilogy and the bungie games; this series is an absolute train wreck. Even amongst most of the recent bad media, this series is particularly disgusting in how incompetently written it is and is a far cry from the series. I mean the fact it has a meme name like Master Cheeks says it all. It makes me so sad that Neil Blomkamp didn’t produce a Halo movie or trilogy. In the right hands, Halo could have shined as an adaptation. But yet again; malicious incompetence strikes again with adaptations. And Hollywood wonders why it’s shrinking. Do better, Hollywood!
The sad part is Halo is a fundamentally simple story. It keeps being ruined by people trying to force in all these unnecessary elements that just do not work. All you have to do to make a good Halo story is not mess it up.
Halo fans have been eating dirt for years, and the smart ones got out when Halo 4 came out. 4 was the tipping point for a lot of us where the story went from pretty good to terrible, and it's only been downhill since. Coincidentally, Halo 4 was also the last game released with all content on launch, minus DLC, and it still sucked eggs in every department.
If people are still Halo fans these days, they're either children or people who don't know what good stories are.
Hollywood is getting irrelevant nowadays. People would rather watch older movies and shows.
In fact, all these adaptations are a sad attempt to stay relevant when the games industry is now bigger than they ever will... And they're coming after video games too.
I've said it before, but Chief in the games emotes a lot without speaking and without ever seeing his face. We can generally tell what he's thinking without it ever being obvious. Either the show writers failed to understand that simple concept, or the actor is too full of himself to go a few minutes without his face being on screen.
A personal favourite of mine is when Chief asks Cortana how much firepower is needed to cause a chain reaction in the ship reactor (Halo 1) and when she says a well placed grenade would do it Chief starts casually bouncing a grenade in his hand, clearly already way ahead of Cortana on what needs to be done.
Karentana
“CHIEF WE NEED TO SEE THE MANAGER!”
"I will locate the manager."
"You can see it on your HUD chief."
*shoots manager*
"Excellent work chief. Now we gotta get out of here!"
*cops arrive after chief flees*
So what y’all are saying is the covenant are good because they have big guys and little guys
Yes. Very diverse.
Oh God, not Movie Bob
The fact that my friends and I can quote Arby n the Chief 17 years after seeing it, but will never remember a line or scene from this..."show" that Paramount shit out, speaks volumes about how entertaining or memorable it actually is.
"They're scared of people not being able to connect with the main character because they can't see his face" Deadpool and Spiderman: "Am i a joke to you?"
I genuinely believe part of the reason directors make them take helmets off is because Hollywood types have some kind of comprehension disorder and can't regulate their emotions without a 'face' to take cues from.
They also can't identify with people who don't look like them
There's a lot of ego too. "How are they going to know its me if I have this helmet covering my face the whole time??" or, "How will they know we got to work with *ACTOR* if we don't show their face all the time?" Sounds infantile, but its real. Hollywood is a business, a shitty one at that. Every second of an uncovered face is marketable for millions, and that really is the only part they care about.
It's gotten to the point where a RUclipsr who makes videos with action figures has a better understanding of film theory than the people producing a multi-million dollar television show
Search "It'sJustSomeRandomGuy"
True but Jon is actually really good, Arby n the chief grew proportionally to his writing and camera skills throughout the years and really peaked in season 7 IMO
@@bluex217 I was being dismissive for "dramatic" effect, he clearly does know what he's doing to an impressive degree.
It’s because they aren’t hiring filmmakers, they are hiring propagandists
Yup. Cultural Marxists don’t understand art.
Its like you write a book report about something you never read. They dont even read the fckin cliff notes
343 🤝 Halo TV showrunners
Ruining Halo franchise and have loyal “fans” defend their mistakes no matter how wrong they are
People hate Halo 4, but I still think that game nailed the Chief/Cortana relationship and made Chief a more human character without ruining him. Obviously everything after that shows that game was a fluke, though.
@@ManHamOrigins It did ruin him tho. I would say it ruined Cortana too but I gotta hand it to them after everything she went through with the Gravemind + years of descending into rampancy she actually follows really well. Especially if you read the novella Human Weakness Halo 4 actually continues alot of the threads brought up for Cortana there. But there's no reason for Master Chief to be acting how he does there. You can easily compare the scene in Halo 2 where he leaves Cortana behind to die on High Charity vs in Halo 4 where he has to leave her to die, but in the latter he acts like he won't know what to do without her, he gets choked up and seriously depressed. In the former, he accepts it quickly. Even though he definitely cared about her then, Master Chief should not be compromising himself and getting choked up over necessary sacrifices. He went through that as a teenager, by H4 he should be way over it. And yes he does have a chance to save Cortana in Halo 3 but only because she fails to detonate the In Amber Clad because of the Gravemind.
Chief's known Cortana for about 3 months by Halo 2, and maybe spent a couple weeks with her. By Halo 4 you can add a few more days onto that.
@@peanutgallery4
In Halo 2, he still has a job to do, and he leaves her with the possibility of coming back for her later on.
In Halo 4, the fight is finished, and he has to watch her die, knowing there’s nothing he can do to stop it.
@@ManHamOrigins the fight isn't finished in halo 4 and thats just the first problem I thought of, I prefer just pretending everything released post reach is not halo
@@ManHamOrigins Completely disagree, Cortana touching Chief's breastplate and saying "I've waited so long to do that." has the fucking weirdest implications possible for her character. I also don't buy that the Cortana I know from the original trilogy would end up this infantilized and pathetic, if anything the Cortana I know would probably try to self-delete the moment she realized she was a danger and risk to Chief's mission and his safety, and it would be Chief that has to convince her not to. The fact we even get some lame ass character like Del Rio to have a screaming match with Chief over this topic instead a mature conversation should tell you everything you need to know about the writing in this game. Not to mention Chief had personality in the originals, it wasn't until Halo 4 where he started acting like a fucking plank of wood.
There's a cutscene in Halo 3 that I absolutely love. It's when Chief and Arbiter are coming over the light bridge to where the Prophet of Truth has begun the activation of the rings. As they approach, Chief sees Sgt. Johnson with Miranda Keyes dead in his arms. You see Chief for just a moment, but he's dropped his weapon to his side, and is staring at them both. Arbiter is the one to immediately go up to the platform to deal with the prophet, and Chief stays there for a few seconds, until the Gravemind starts speaking through Truth.
Even in such a short scene, you see that Chief could very well be showing sadness under that helmet, both for Miranda's death and how it's affected Johnson. It's something I didn't even notice for years, until I was replaying them on the Master Chief Collection. Just a tiny bit of characterization that reinforces what the games have already shown plenty of times up to that point. Chief is a human being, and he cares for his fellow soldiers, and for humanity as a whole.
Also chief Is not standing straight when he see dead miranda. And with infinite you realise it's because he respected Jacob keyes. The level where he get memory fragments from captain keyes.
People don’t give halo 3 enough credit for how well it conveyed chiefs body language
I liked when Cortana took over each Spartans body and the show was renamed to Cortana
I liked when Cortana watched John Halo boink the Covenant lady, and she was renamed to Cucktana
@@ManHamOrigins "Cucktana"
A better example of this helmet argument is Dredd (2012). Karl Urban did such a fantastic job with his performance and he never once took the helmet off.
True, but you could see the bottom of his face.
@@thegooddoctor2009 that’s not the point! He is still wearing his helmet throughout the entire movie where in the old film he barely has it on.
The weird part to me, is that they have a lot of references from the books, like Col. Akerson, but they are not the same/misused. I think they just pulled a list of names and places, and threw them in wherever they felt like.
So glad Jon Graham is getting more attention! He’s an amazing storyteller and content creator!
16:10 I'd say DoomGuy definitely has a basic sense of right and wrong. We see him get angry at the start of the first game because of it, and destroying the Argent refineries despite being told not to shows it's not just the lowest possible "death bad" kind of morals.
A good example of wearing a helmet or mask and showing emotion is Kamen rider or power rangers. You can't read the face but the body language is readable to show with the action.
Just listening to Jon describe his enjoyment of storytelling and explain the intricacies of visual language, the amount of passion this man has for the story of a "mere video game", it's tragic because it's self- evident not an ounce of such passion was put into this abominable TV show.
This show is honestly, the best example I can give for the worst show adaptation possible. I genuinely don't think you could have made it worse, without explicitly making it "Not Halo" Like yes, you could have Unicorns flying around destroying the world with a single spatula swipe, and while that would be better than this show, it would obviously be "Not Halo" So this show walks the tight rope of making every worst decision possible while keeping the skin of Halo on.
You finally spelled Jon’s name right in the description
Oh my god… IT’S GARY BUSEY!!
No, wait a minute...
IT'S NICK NOLTE!!!
@@Th3Cused1 48 hours sucked!
There are SO many ways to express emotion with a helmeted character. Body language, tone of voice, lighting, weather/ambient effects, camera angle, etc.
Case in point: if you accidentally stick a teammate with a plasma grenade in Halo and they turn around and look at you, there is so much emotion to be gleaned from their helmeted face alone.
This discussion reminds me of when I play a remake of a game that had limited visuals, and I feel disappointed by the more detailed cutscenes, because with the original game, my mind was able to fill in the blanks better than the new game could.
4:30 in the Warhammer 40k fan film "Helsreach", the main character spends most of his time with his helmet on. Even the most emotional scenes typically have the helmet on, but you k ow what Grimaldus is feeling by his posture, sound and perspective.
Master cheeks saves the galaxy.....while crying.
And Cortans becomes a cuck
After hearing the rumour that the writers for this show wanted to make a Mass Effect series it makes sense why they hold these views and the direction they took the show. It makes sense the writers wouldn't think you can show emotion behind a helmet when their favourite game is heavily centred on facial expression.
I feel like Alan Becker is also someone people wanting to portray faceless characters can learn a lot from.
He’s got a strong sense of communication through body language and it’s exemplified exquisitely by his Animation vs. series (particularly Animation vs Minecraft). Despite all the insanity that unfolds during those animated videos, the characters are pretty distinct in terms of their personalities. They have different sets of skills and seeing how each of them solves problems (without a single word of dialogue, btw) is pretty satisfying. The main characters have very simple designs, too. They’re literally just stick figures with different colors and (sometimes) head shapes. I’m so much more invested in what’s happening with them than most characters Hollyweird hijacks or inserts in their shitty stories.
I'm thankful that I stopped caring about Halo before the show was produced because it would have made my teenage self so sad and angry.
That is partially whats funny about this show, the Halo IP is in a bad state already and then instead of using the show to boost it all it does is damage it even more.
@@maineiacman It's even funnier, they can't even say "fuck it, let's do an edgerunners by commisioning Halo Legends 2" because they also rented the rights of Animation, movies and whatnot derivatives to Paramount and the contract apparently expires in 10 YEARS, meaning that unless Paramount gives up on it first, they are the only ones approved to do any official big screen or TV-rated Halo stuff until 2032. And that's if Paramount doesn't renew it at that time. So MS, 343i and company are practically locked out of the ability to use any sort of non-game media to save the IP because Paramount is the one who says when and what produces while everyone else is at best a consultant.
MS could pressure them to "give up on it" but unless something stains MS too, they won't.
Well chosen clip. I always like hearing Jon's opinions, but now I'm mostly just enjoying noticing how much more comfortable Jon has become with being on EFAP since then.
The explanation of how the second shot conveys context to the audience is so obviously true, because it's how memes work. Take a screenshot, change the order in which they're displayed or what the subtitles read, and you have an entirely different situation. How many variations of "You see that's where the trouble began / That smile / That damned smile," can you think of right now, as just one example?
Remember according to Paramounts Johnny Rings. Emotions are felt north of the a55.
The way you play a masked character is the same way you'd play a costumed mascot.
Your body language has to convey the emotion. Taking the helmet off was a crutch for bad acting.
Jon should have made the show. How cool would that be? He got action figures to emote better than the actors in this.
Honestly you could just make a whole series of Jon taking the mic for a bit and just talking. 92 is just a gold mine of insight and knowledge that's just fascinating. One of my favorite EFAPs.
If only he had brought back, see me after class
Master chief is laconic, because the spartans spoke laconically.
"If I beat you, you will die" says teh covenant
"If." says the Master Chef
Mandalorian? Try Vader during his exchange with Luke on Endor... despite wearing a helmet YOU CAN SEE him display his conflict!!!
That's a great example actually.
They did provide the full Halo experience, part of the Halo franchise experience is being disappointed by what they did to the franchise in its later years lmao
Unmasking Master Chief tells me that the showrunners would rather rely on the actor's ability to act, than the rest of the crew's abilities:
- to frame the shot
- to direct the actor
- to edit the scene
- to compose an adequate soundtrack
I may not be a filmmaker, but from various scenes from V for Vendetta and The Mandalorian I can clearly see when the hero is worn down, sad, determined, flippant, focused, aloof, defiant, displeased, satisfied, apprehensive. And the comments sections to clips from each movie/show are filled with people who could relate.
They directly rip off an emotional scene from the Mandalorian where the character sits in a cockpit and ponders going back to save their friend while fidgeting with a relevant object.
Except the halo show has his helmet off the entire time with Pablo overacting while heavyhanded flashbacks play. It actually feels quite condescending because the writers don't seem to think the audience can be trusted to understand subtext or interpret anything for themselves.
I notice especially in the early 2000s a lot of B-tier TV and movies go to great lengths to avoid headwear on characters.
There was a 2006 military drama called “The Unit” and they have entire episodes where the characters are fighting in Afghanistan and they don’t even wear baseball caps.
That’s probably why CSI and shows like it focus on plainclothes detectives instead of like, SWAT. Shows about firemen keep shots with helmets very limited even when they’re at the scene of a fire.
In GOOD media, they’ll usually show it.
Halo? More like Gaylo, amirite, fellas?
Wii? That little controller looks like a dildo. I ain’t tryna play my games, with no dil-do
I ain't playing with no dildo.
Gottem!
The fact that Chief from Arby and the Chief can emote better than Master Cheeks despite being a toy (and voiced by Microsoft Sam) really speaks volumes about how bad the show is.
In robot chicken, some of the funniest bits is from boba fett. They get so much expression and character from a masked dude. They make that look easy and these fools claiming you cant make it work is just unreal.
This particular episode might have been the hardest EFAP for me to get through. I spent hundreds of hours playing Halo, by myself and with friends, while I was a teenager and a young adult. To see something I loved so much treated with so much disrespect made me angry enough that I needed to stop and put something else on, and it happened a few times.
I think Pablo sucked, personally. But I don't think I'd blame him as much if he kept the damn helmet on. He looks like a soy version of Chief, if that makes any sense. In the books, Cortona, while teasing Halsey about her affection for Chief, describes Chief as "Handsome, in a primitive way" (paraphrasing) and serious. Pablo looks like he's only two steps away from crying at any given moment. He does not strike me as someone who's battle-hardened and duty-bound. He comes off as very conflicted and confused. Which is about as wrong as you can get when characterizing Chief on screen.
Graham hits it out of the park here.
Garand Thumb’s Halo intro is better than the show
Halo show unironically had smexy pronz and roflknife goes slice slice slice slice in it. Even microsoft sam would have trouble with
I need a Halo show directed by Jon Graham.
What made me sad is that this actor could have been THE face of Master Chief, if they hadnt done the fans dirty. Such a wasted opportunity.
The problem with the it's never going to be what you want argument (whether it's for this, something like Dune or even just some pulpy novel the rest of the world has forgotten about), like, "It's never going to be the computer games, this is a different medium..." is it's not about a scene for scene likeness, but capturing the spirit of a story. If you don't understand that, then you shouldn't be in charge of interpreting and adapting the story for a different medium.
Jon is spitting facts dropping that icon stuff. I taught some lessons for an English class, and got to do a bit of a dive into that topic with comic books in particular. There's a lot you can do with juxtaposition and context, and a super detailed face isn't necessary to conveying emotions or intent...
I think part of the problem with Chief taking off the mask (apart from actors' wanting their faces shown on TV as much as possible, as is mentioned), is the Two-Screen Phenomenon. A lot of people watching TV today are only half-watching, their eyes are on their phones/tablets and they look up when the change in the background music tells them to. The careful shot composition Jon Graham describes is wasted as long as 50% of the audience isn't looking at the screen 70% of the time. The Kuleshov effect only works if the viewer sees all the images.
I imagine this is what it would have been like if James Rolfe had reviewed Paul Fiege's Ghost Busted; a man so *A B S O L U T E L Y L I V I D* that he is beyond anger, and calmly, politely, and in professional and comprehensive terms, _tears the review topic into atoms._
Minor correction: that whole scene with Chief and the Prophet is not a case of the Prophet ignoring anything. If everything worked entirely right, the Flood would not have been an issue. Their idea is to fire the Halo rings. Unleashing the Flood was an accident, albeit one at least partially caused by trying to find and fire the rings.
I loved E;R's contribution to this discussion. Absolute legend.
adaptation studio : "I don't care about or respect the source material."
also adaptation studio: *wants to bank entirely on the love and passion for the media they're adapting for profit and is surprised when people hate what they make and say they don't understand the source material*
Please tell me Bookem Woodbine and Dave Chappelle weren't separated at birth.
Eeehhhhhh… less of an evisceration and more of a calm dissection.
I watched halo til second season because I really wanted to like it. Then they kill Keys after making his daughter a pale imitation of the woman in the game. Then, killing that blind redheaded guy with the 'nade launcher while forcing me to care. It was stupid shit with none of the Spartans wearing their armor???
You are absolutely right regarding the game. It does not compare
Arby n the chief made people care about plastic models more then people care about John Halo
I think we as Halo fans are FAR too tolerant with how this show has been handled. ESPECIALLY after Last of Us and now Fallout - we’ve seen that it can be done right. The show should have been animated
I'm with you there, high budget animation with decent voice work and a better writer and director that understood the source material, backstory and lore. Would've kicked the shit out of what we got given.
Hell they could've even done a cool bait and switch and made the whole first season from the covenants prospective.
Thinking about Halo always makes me go back to watch Red vs Blue
Please sir, may we have another Highlight
I forget where now tbh but I remember reading about how his contract stipulated something about not wearing a helmet all the time.
It's cute they call it Halo, but is a skin suit that person? Nope and it's really f'd up when that guy wears it in The Silence of the Lambs.
Arby 'n' the Chief respected Halo more than the paramount show.
They literally should’ve just hired Jon Graham to direct the show and called it a day.
I think back to Babysitter in Halo Legends. A lot of the time nothing is conveyed, because CAL doesn't want to. The Spartan doesn't even talk, and the reveal helps you think about why that is. You find out later that CAL is a woman. Before that, you watch the POV character learn to respect her. CAL's team dislike Spartans already, So CAL might have deduced that if they learned she was female before the mission, it would affect their performance and their unit cohesion. Stoicism is heavily underrated...
28:50 - the more you think about the show, the worse it gets. Then someone superchats "Amaon's making a Fallout show"... oh just you wait, little did they know (in May 2022) how bad the Fallout show would be lol. Fallout show is much worse than the Halo show, which is awful itself. At least Halo says "we're not canon so you can just pretend we didn't exist". Fallout says "we are canon, and we've blasted all the lore to shreds with our retcon/retard cannon, and also, FUCK YOU".
Those who Microsoft keep giving Halo to, may never understand what made Halo special
In today’s age, you will never get a film based on Duke Nukem, who arguably was one of the 1st FPS characters to have a well defined personality.
The whole idea of cannot emote through helmet is so so stupid. Did nobody watch Darth Vader conflicted between Luke and Palpy?
Just listen to his voice, thats more than enough
8:00 I feel like this almost falls under show don't tell. The show runners act as if every emotion must be directly communicated to the audience by seeing the actors face at all times. Chief is sad, so we must have a shot of his sad face. Kai is happy so we must have a shot of her smiling. Think of all the scenes in movies and TV where a character expresses emotion not by showing their face but by doing the opposite. A character walking away without turning to look back at the camera. The action of purposely hiding ones face instead of openly expressing their feelings. SO much can be communicated through actions, context, and juxtaposition and to act like theres no way to do so while a character is wearing a mask is lazy.
This is my head canon: everything that has happened in this “silver timeline” is nothing but scenarios made up by Cortana as her and Master Chief are still adrift on the Forward Unto Dawn. Nothing in this show is real for me (and a huge amount of people)
Here's a one word response to how you shut down any argument about a helmet not conveying emotion: radio.
I fucking love Arby n the Chief
Not sure when this was recorded but oh boy if he’s making these points about them being afraid the audience won’t understand a characters feeling because of his helmet just wait till season two where the fall of reach chief and the other Spartans literally have their armor taken away….
Creators should had at least play Mass Effect games. Tali was the most favored and waifud character and she was masked and had her voice distorted for entire game. You can definetly show emotions without showing face.
And ironically one of biggest controversies regarding her is a picture of her with the mask off. Though there was good reasons to call out the developers for laziness on that one.
I think we can agree that the Halo show would be vastly improved if they brought in Todd and Travis
They should’ve adapted the bungie era books word for word and scene for scene.
Wolf knew what he was doing
Video starts with "I think that about does it for the Halo discussion"
Oh shit, I didn't know Jon was still around
Man it's been ages since I last saw Arby n the Chief. I should give it a rewatch for the fun of it.
The constant removal of chiefs helmet demonstrates 2 things.
First, the show runners lack of faith in the source material.
Second the lack of believe in the shows writing.
They really don’t understand this series