I brought my paycheck home on Thursday night like I had always done. When I got home Friday evening, my clothes were in paper sacks on the front porch and the locks were changed. Her "new" guy had already moved in. Despite the fact that my ex was an alcoholic hooked on drugs and riding the sexual carousel, the judge gave her the best car, the house and custody of my child. Today, my daughter is a recovering drug addict and alcoholic. Thanks, judge. You really did right by my daughter.
Thats terrible man, i'm really sorry to hear that ... Hope your daughter finds the help and strength she needs to get over these hurdles, the good news is that your a man and as men we have something that can't be taken away from us ... thats will power that is unyielding in its pursuit, i pray you make it through and regain traction in this life ...
@@dacoup5955 i'm over the worst of it. honestly barely made it. both my kids are gone all for nothing. all i can do now is try to warn younger men cheers.
Sorry to hear. My wife was 'not that bad' (they are all narcissistic, way more then men), but I see it as my kids were 'stolen' by my wife who is a criminal and aided and abetted by the hyper-feministic family 'kangeroo' courts. My daughter does not even speak to me anymore. She does not even speak to my 93 year old father. Totally poisoned by my ex. Whenever a woman is 'sappy and way too complimentary to me' in the gym, I know that something is up with them and ... they want something. Revenge is so sweet!
Im actually now addicted to being single. Ive saved money, travelled, made new friends, had fun, my life is peaceful, have developed new skills, hobbies, and I dont have to put up with endless mood swings and games, no more pointless irrational arguments, no stupid accusations (projecting their own guilt btw), no more being lonely which most relationships are nowadays.
No dealing with them not liking my hobbies (it was cars for many years) or not liking my music or the hours I worked (mostly second or third shifts thru the years) Who wants a nag all the time.?
If you want to have a taste every now and then, get you a purse and sit and hold it miserably in the shopping mall and pretend like you're waiting for one of them to mindlessly shop for hours.
I wouldn't say I'm addicted to being single, but adapted in a way that isn't relationship friendly. I might only check phone messages once per day, etc...
TBH, this is the best option, if you don't have any aspirations to be in a relationship and get married. I also love the feeling of becoming competent through seeing how far you can push yourself in terms of learning, skills, and gaining experiences.
I stopped dating due to: - Unrealistic expectations (on the girls part). - Women never holding themselves accountable and rarely apologize. - Women showing to much disrespect and selfishness. - Women rarely showing gratitude or thanks for the things men do for them. - Women's deep delusion and dishonesty.
@@Wes-ku9tb Yes, people, but lets be real here, its mainly the women. They're encouraged by the empowerment movement and social media to behave poorly and selfishly, and indeed many are.
100% on point, nail smashed squarely on the head. That covers it all very succinctly. The harsh truth is, and it's one many men really do not want to accept, is that women are rather like wasps. They are fundamentally unpleasant by nature, and they cannot help it, it's just the way they are. Western women are completely unbearable these days, their expectations are ridiculous generally, and their 'entitlement' is off the scale. The vast majority of them grossly over estimate their own value. Ironically, the older they get- into middle age, the more difficult and choosey they become- despite having hit the wall! Walk away, and just keep on going gents. Develop your hobbies and interests, work on yourself and your fitness. When you feel the need, pay £120 and spend an hour with a 25 year old escort. You aren't actually paying for the sex, you're paying for her to go away afterwards! Men always pay for sex one way or the other, every relationship with a woman is transactional, so you might as well avoid all the drama, mind games, manipulation, aggravation and plough an escort.
Everything that you’re talking about has been caused by feminism. It promotes the victim mindset and when someone sees themself as being a victim, they never learn from their mistakes and they eventually become monsters.
I got married 5 months ago and was asked for a divorce 3 days ago. Nothing I did was right. I loved her, was loyal, showed affection, and she constantly looked for reasons to fight. I’m in total shock at it all. I’m 47, kids are grown and, I thought I’d give marriage another try since the first marriage I had was 14 years. What a horrible experience I’m going through right now. It’s devastating to know I played by every rule of marriage and there was no way to keep her from being unhappy. Much love to all the men out there who are going through the process and high expectations of today’s women. I’ll never get married again and, I think I’ll be lucky if I ever trust them again. Take care all
@@RealtyWebDesigners In the same way that animals in the wild "love" their offspring. Did you know that in 70% of cases of children being harmed in the context of a marriage and family, it's the mother doing the harm?
Married 41 years this December. It’s been both good and really really bad. Would I do it again? Probably due to the need for sex ( I am religious) woul I pick the same person? Maybe! After all our kids and grandkids are a representation of both of us, but, marriage can really suck at times.
I’m in my mid 60s. Yikes 😹😹 recently divorced. Having a heck of a time finding women my age who isn’t a feminist wannabe, who has had even a little capacity to not compete with me from a place of “I can do everything myself and don’t ‘need’ you. and sex is a favor I give you when you manage to figure out how to treat me.” Definitely not worth the trouble
I heard from a 30 year old man recently who said “im not looking for a gf right now, i need to make some changes with my career and just dont want the added complications right now”… what struck me is how there was no consideration at all that a man could find a woman that would actually be helpful during his transition. I am seeing more young men saying versions of the same thing, they see women as a burden more than a soul mate or helper.
That's because they're always telling us we have to already have our things in order, because our role as men is to be a wallet with legs, not to be people.
Few women are supportive of your career and goals. The career is too far separated from what you see at home for her to take interest. I've been married for twenty years to whom I would consider a good woman, but other than being able to come home to a good meal every night and a "How was your day"? There is nothing. I expressed interest in starting my own engineering business in the past and she was set against it, or back when I was Scoutmaster, taking on those extra duties, she was always nagging for me to stay at home more. At 48, I have a cubicle job, steady but soul crushing. I'll probably retire from here.
@@jimjohnson394 a yes i did 25 years marriage… seems to me a man with engineering skills can probably find a gig that allows work from anywhere. I did 15 years or so hard time working in various offices and cubicle environments. The remote work experience is far superior for men … no travel cost, no time burn, almost no office politics and you can take care of personal business in between calls etc. and as a bonus… im more productive because people dont interrupt me as much. Good luck man.. life is short👊
@@spagooter1807insightful and well written, spot on actually minus the global warming thing lol, that’s a fear scheme that just gets rebranded for each generation to tax more. In the 90s it was acid rain. Things are warming up and weather is certainly changing but governments will never fix anything or control the weather, at least it’s not a deep ice age and we can’t grow food because that the more dangerous scenario of the two ☮️
Caught my first wife cheating on me while I was deployed, but she still had the gall to take me to court to ask the judge to give her my military pension-100% of it. Of course she was laughed out of court but the gall amazed even me. Second wife tried to get alimony by claiming her proof I was potentially violent because I was a former Marine. She too was denied alimony. So yeah, I am financially well off, very happy but I avoid relationships-no thanks! Strongly advise any man thinking about marriage-NO! Learn from us-NO!
Once you get over the initial loneliness of deciding to go your own way, you are forced to start looking for happiness elsewhere. And then your mind is blown as to how much is actually out there that does not involve trying to impress women and lock them down. Money, career, hobbies, travel, incredible foods and wine, money, more travel, personal growth, weekend workshops, movies, concerts, MONEY. And total freedom.... Is it lonely? Yes. Is it perfect? No. But the alternative is eating an endless shit sandwich from mean spirited controlling boss bitches (their words). No thanks. I will live my life and take everything I can out of each day.
When I get that lonely, I draw a dot on the wall and talk to it. Then I go back to counting my money, surfing Home Depot for tools to buy for myself, etc etc. Life cannot be any greater!
The biggest shock I had after I got married, was how disrespectful she was and she didn’t act like we were on the same team. It was always a competition. I was trying to work for goal she was trying to tear me down. I thought I would have a team member and we would support each other. Instead I came home to a nightmare after work and it was complete chaos. Also she wasn’t loyal or kind so we’re not together and she’s dated 25 guys since and is currently single.
Had the same happen to me, I filed after several marriage ending actions on her part. She ended up getting knocked up quickly after divorce and her backup plan now has lifelong gift from me, I bought a motorcycle and live a life of peace and kindness 🏆
@@dixonyaarmouf4630...".. her backup plan now has lifelong gift from me...". Please explain. Do you mean you are paying alimony? You only get 25 years of 'government alimony', care, food & shelter for murder some one said.
Watched this on my late wife's account. I am a 57 yr old man. I have been married 3 times. First marriage in my 20's ended when she began lying to me, trying to manipulate me. Then I dated a girl 16 years younger than me for 5 years, married her and it lasted for a year. Then I met my perfect mate. All the pieces came together with her. We supported one another through the difficult times, laughed together every day. 12 of the best years of my life. When her cancer diagnosis came in, I took care of her to the very end. That last year changed me. I have no energy to play games with women now and, unless one falls into my lap, will remain a widower. Thank you for this video, I hope people take it to heart.
The part about damage being lifelong is so true. When I was 17, I finally worked up the courage to ask out a girl in my class, she not only laughed in my face, she raised her voice so everyone in the vicinity could hear her say “I wouldn’t date you if you were the last guy on earth”. You never really get over that, and I’m now 65.
No. If a woman has been living inside your head all this time, that's on you. And if that's all you had to get over in your life, then you have had a very trouble free life. It's bad enough hearing this bleeting from women without men joining in. Get a grip.
Ugh, I'm sorry to hear that. I've had similar moments when women were cruel to me; they come back to mind now and then (had one recur earlier today, which is probably why your comment caught my attention). I have to push back against it, or else I'm liable to sink into a shame spiral. I fight back against that sort of message. I don't want to internalize her shitty attitude towards me. I have to be on my own side with this stuff. I can't buy into how some narcissistic twat thought about me. I'd urge you to do the same -- Don't see yourself the way she saw you. Women can be incredibly stupid, superficial, and mean. She did not know you. Reject her view. It came from ignorance. Don't let c*nts like that define your own self-image. Fight back against that bullshit.
@@BenDover-id7zg I hear you. What I said to humble trader applies here, too. Just one correction: this isn't male aggression. This is female aggression. This is how females aggress. They tear people down verbally. They exclude and reject people. If you listen to Jordan Peterson, you'll hear him outline the well-established clinical facts about female aggression. This is how they do it. Men express aggression directly, sometimes through violence. Women express it through smearing your reputation (as this woman did, publically shaming you). Think of cancel culture. That is mostly a female-driven phenomenon, and it relies on female aggression: reputation destruction, rumors, and rejection/exclusion. This is also why we have seen the rate of suicide among teenage girls double -- because of how they treat each other on social media. I heard it said, "Men will kill you, and women will make you want to kill yourself." That's a little simple but captures it.
I'm gay, so my observation from the side lines... Of all the weddings of my straight friends i went to only 1 marraige survives... I witnessed 11 broken men, none of which did anything wrong. Left living alone, no house, no kids, no car, no dogs. It's been heartbreaking to watch. 😢
I didn't need social media to learn about all of this. Just everyday life experiences. The worst part is the money keeps being sent to them and they are already have multiple men in their lives living with them taking turns using the ex husbands house and money for her fun times.
The divorce rate for new marriages is 50% The divorce rate for second marriages is 67%. The divorce rate for third marriages is 74%, and lasts 1.6 years. In each of these instances, there is a financial incentive for a woman to leave. Based on financial issues alone, why would a sensible man marry? Having said that, add in today's delusional women and...no way.
You are being very, and I stress VERY generous here. The rate is closer to 52% nationally for first time marriage, and depending on the state and locale, can be as high as 64% as it is in Orange County.
I would agree and my two brothers would also Sadly they both passed in 22 two marriages each one brother left on his third search and one sister whose been stable in her marriage. even as co owner with her husband Fascinating Old School values
I once overheard a conversation between two women in my office. One of the women had just gotten engaged. The other women asked 'Are you in love?' The engaged woman replied, 'Not really, but he makes lots of money.'
Women are opportunistic, they take advantage of fools and idiots such as the man marrying that women, a man isn’t smart enough to educate themselves that marriage is a terrible idea then I have no sympathy for those men.
Money solves a lot of problems. Besides women have been put in arranged marriages for forever. Even stories of Prince Charming and Beauty and the Beast are stories of women having to accept their lot in life if romantic partners.
When I got divorced I lost half of everything I owned, and my ex gained all of her half back instantly from the guy she "wasn't" having an affair with. I demanded joint custody of my 3 children, and amazingly got it. However, that quickly turned into full custody and I found myself as a single father with 3 kids. I got child support on time which helped but she had essentially nothing to do with the children from then on. I ended up having to deal with that psychological damage to them by myself. Years later when the kids were adults, and I had time and the desire to find a woman to share my life with, I found that dating in your 40s and 50s is even more of a nightmare than when you are young. Most of the women I met were predators. By the time I finally met someone who was a genuinely nice person, I had become so wary of relationships, that I was "emotionally unavailable". This is causing problems in our relationship. At my age, I can't afford to be financially and emotionally destroyed by a relationship, so I am in a kind of limbo.
Im 35 and im already at that stage. You get cheated on and abused by women only soo many times you just LOL life. Do your own thing and enjoy sex if it comes along. You have to not care about women to gett them to actually like you. Its shallow, boring and women themselves set up a system that teaches us to enjoy not being with them.
Do not live with them , find one that's independent and has her own house....just have a drop in girlfriend it works for me....casual girlfriend at most .
The biggest mistake of my life was getting married. She changed completely after that. I thought having the big house and kids was what we were supposed to have. The control was unbearable in the relationship. Once I left her I lost everything. She made as much money as me. Now I live by myself a year and a half later in a one bedroom, while she upgraded to a bigger house then we had while married. I don't have my kids, she won't let me see them. I've lost over 50k in court. All I'm left with is debt, resentment and a severe distrust of woman. Be very very careful if you get married
Yeah things get better, but it takes a long time. As for karma, I’m still waiting for this to bite my ex 14 years later. As far as I can see, she seems to have gotten away with her abuse, lying, cheating, stealing and genius-dirty-tricks completely Scott-Free!!! Oh well, divorces are expensive cos they’re worth it (ie I’m free of her, and have relative peace). 🙂
Men marry because they love a woman. He normally is not looking for something. It is not a life's goal. He does it to give. He hopes that love will not be abused and that he will be respected.
@@mariacosta3698 thats the mentality of women, Men dont see it as a life goal but just a step along the way. the goal is well past marriage. The goal is to continue our genetics, ie children, NOT marriage. And since women see it as the end all of their life purpose they dont know what to do after they get married, they just achieved their life goal.
Men only marry to give. Period. And men are called slavers and oppressors for that. The idea that men marry to have a cook and a cleaner is ludicrous given that a single man can eat out every day more cheaply than feeding a family at home, and that ever man, person really, is comfortable with whatever level of cleanliness they live in
The core issue is the one way flow of Love. A man loves a woman, but the woman withholds love until it is "purchased" in some way. It's to the point that negotiations don't end at the wedding but intensifies. The man gives and the woman takes. Her "sacrifice" is in (mostly) remaining monogamous in exchange for the freedom to do whatever she wants. The moment the man fails to provide for her "needs" then she is free to cheat, divorce, or just walk away from marriage. This is what it looks like to men these days.
A covenant marriage takes No-Fault divorce off the table. There must be Fault: Insanity Bareness Adultery Violence imprisonment .... Irrevocable marriage, scary?
@@Andrew-tx9jy My wife gets $2500/mo as my WIFE and Free Lifetime Family Healthcare>> loses that with divorce. Half a house won't buy a full house today.
I was bullied at school by girls who punched and kicked me and I could not retaliate being a boy. Grew up with emotional and trust issues, never knew how to deal with women. Gave up looking at 30. 52 now and sadly my skin is rhino thick. I've seen a good friend marry a known Narssist and it destroyed him. I've seen nothing. NOTHING. Worth the time and bother. Yes I know there are many great women out there but I'm terrified of choosing poorly. All I've seen and been through. I cannot put up with crap anymore.
So true. Getting married in a Western country is a fool's errand. I've known too many guys who had their lives absolutely wrecked by women who supposedly "loved them."
This situation has been brewing for 35+ years. I speak from the experience of becoming a father in the 80's and dealing with not only the mother of my child, but the weight of the government and it's complete prejudice against fathers. The government does everything it can to destroy the father's economic ability to provide for their children, while at the same time, completely supporting the mother's less than mediocre life choices that create 'adults' with absolutely no value to society.
Perfectly said. A single mother only cares about her kids until the new man comes along. Then they just become a nuisance to her. I've interviewed hundreds of male children raised by single moms on this subject. 99% of them agreed with my assessment
I am a very traditional, Christian man who has just over 40 years married, to the same woman. My heart broke when you were describing the "the man must be earning 6 figures" ... I would have NEVER been married if that was the case. I was an incredibly insecure man of 18 when I met my wife, who is 4 years older than me. She saw things in me that I had NO idea existed. She literally transformed my life and the way that I saw myself and what I could accomplish. And I was penniless - I was literally just done my first year of university and didn't even have a summer job - we married the next summer when I was still in school (she was working, assistant manager at a retail store). When I DID get a career job she stayed home to raise the kids and we made do ... AND OUR LIVES ARE RICH! We just finished hosting a going away party for our grandson's girlfriend, who is off to university shortly ... a grandson who will actually drive up to our house and drop in for a visit. THAT IS WORTH MONEY IN THE BANK, PEOPLE!
today a guy has way more chances of winning the lottery while on a crashing plane thats beng hit by lightning repeatedly as it falls than finding a woman like that
I wanted to meet a girl, fall in love, get married and have a family. But years of rejection and inceldom in my 20s started me on the mgtow path long before that name existed. Im in my early 40s now. Still tall, athletic physique, fit, got all my hair, above average income, own properties, financically secure, well traveled, worldy... and so on. Still totally invisible to women. Thus, the mgtow route continues.
Dating coaches exist and make a name off transforming people like you. ANYONE can change. Quiet librarian guys, men with disabilities. Your past does not determine future
@@michaelsix9684I’m not American but yes, you’re right. I was invisible there when I visited. North america, Europe, Australia , and east Asia (china, Hong Kong and Japan ) I’m invisible. It’s only south East Asian countries like Thailand where women seem to notice. Unfortunately, they were usually working girls, which I’m not interested in.
When I was in my 20s, there was a man at my workplace who was going through a bitter divorce, and he was doing his best to educate the men my age at the office who were all looking at getting married and forming families. He said, "She will never love you the way you love her. You would die for her, do anything to protect her, and she will love her children that way and love what you do for her, but she will never love you as a person the way you love her". We listened but chalked this up to just bitterness on the part of a man who had failed in his marriage, but looking back from where I am now, I am not sure he wasn't spot on. I am in my 70s now, and I almost laugh at how stupidly naive most of us guys were back then. I am not anti-female or anti-marriage, just sorry that we are at a point in our society that what has worked well for thousands of years, no longer works, and it isn't because the men have changed. My guess is that we are going to go through a lost generation or two with deep drops in population because of the drop in marriages and the number of kids born, before we go back to what worked before or come up with a new normal.
The thing is he’s right. Men and woman love differently and this is what a lot of people don’t understand. Men love idealistically and woman love opportunistically. Woman don’t love you the way you think they do and this is a man greatest downfall. When you understand the differences you can go on with life and build yourself up the right way to keep her in love with you.
@@stephanledford9792 he was a bitter man. because like all entitled men of his generation he felt cheated out of what he was raised to assume would be his by design. i know this because i was raised under that yolk as well. men of my generation were never prepared for the possibility of a time where women would have to depend on men. now that its here they can't handle it, nor can the boys they raised.
I'm reminded of a story my buddy told me. He was a comp sci major in college and a hot sorority girl approached him about being interested and wanted to go out. He heard through the grapevine from a friend in a frat it was part of some shitty sorority initiative to get some guy she'd never actually date to pay a huge dinner bill. She showed up WITH a friend without letting him know in advance, they ordered expensive entrees, several mixed drinks, got completely smashed and racked up a bill close to 200 dollars in the early 2000s. He quietly got the waiter to split the check, paid his portion and left them there jaws drunkenly agape processing what just happened, but what a humiliating experience for him though.
This is really good. My wife and I have been happily married for 20+ years, but I certainly understand why so many guys are walking away. And I appreciate it when a woman is willing to consider the reasons for this. I can't even imagine being on the dating marketing now. It sounds awful! I'm making 6 figures now, but was barely making over $20K when we started dating. She never asked how much I made and I figured she just assumed it wasn't much. We started out in a small apartment, then spent 13 years in a dirt cheap house. We're obviously doing better now. But I wouldn't trade those early days for anything.
Much like my story, now married 32 years and we both had nothing to begin with except love and respect for each other. I look at the modern dating world and am grateful that I dodged a bullet. Men are so much better off being alone and having no pressure.
I took a business law class some years ago and I remember the instructor, who was also a lawyer, say that first and foremost a marriage license is a business contract. You are, in essence, entering into a business agreement with someone. Now that may be to raise children and all the activities involved with that. But funny how a marriage contract is one business contract where one party, the female, is rewarded for 'cashing out'...
Well, you see, in the past, the patriarchy put hard customs on the husband supporting the wife, even as the wife was required to follow her husband. The wife's duties have fallen by the wayside, the husband's duties remain. Take heart, the practice of "letter of recommendation" when changing jobs fell by the wayside in the 1980s. It only last 600 years, first as a requirement, then as custom. (1388) The Statute of Richard II restricts laborers to their hundred and makes it compulsory for them to follow the same trade as their father after the age of twelve. ... And here is the historical origin of the important custom of exacting recommendations: servants leaving employment are required to carry a testimonial, and none are to receive servants without such letter - the original of the blacklist.
A marriage is a contract that has terms revealed in case of a divorce. You expect the spouse will want to enforce the revealed contract terms. Your state may benefit from the contract as well.
Funny how it is that MEN brought this on themselves...these laws are no "accident"; they came about because of men abandoning their families en masse in the 70s and early 80s, in order to go sample some of that 'sexual liberation"; the government were SWAMPED with families left with no support once "daddy" took off with some bimbo...so governments enacted HARSH support laws to ensure MEN lived up to their familial responsibilities. So you lot have only YOURSELVES to blame...Terrible thing to have to TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY, eh?
Yes the law has reduced marriage to a contract as humans usually corrupt any institution given the time. There still remains a slim chance to find someone willing to bring more of true union, the kind God intended. That of course requires both the man and the woman to have the capacity to give that kind of union to each other until death. A rare breed indeed.
The real problem here is only one side of the contract can be enforced! It is almost impossible to enforce monogamy because cheating is socially acceptable. The marriage contract has many provions for both sides, but the only part that can be enforced is monetary, which 99% of the time is all about men paying women.....
Interesting. I am a 71 year old man who has been married to the same lady for decades. As hard as it may be for women, my journey before meeting, dating, and marrying my lady was anything but smooth. As a note on first dates, we had our first date in a bookstore. Common interests, intelligent conversation, intersecting hobbies, the works. My studies of history DO NOT support the feminist models. We help each other and work together, and always have. We took the vows seriously. Unfortunately, that is so rare today as to be almost invisible. My parents stayed together for 70 years and ended up dying within a few months of each other. When my Mom was in a care facility, my Dad was there every day. He never gave up. That was the example I lived by.
I'm Gen X, your generation's kid. Your generation with it's s3xual revolution and rewriting of history to create The Patriarchy™️ set future generations up for failure. Myself and other men are trying to undo the damage, but I wish your generation would help us rather than just saying you are sorry...and take responsibility for your screw up.
I have been married 47 years to the same woman. After all the ups and downs I would still marry her all over again. I am glad to see I am not alone, but you are right that today it is very rare.
Yes. No guarantees. However, if you want to get married and have children, you can improve the chances of a prenup being upheld. My understanding is that one of the requirements for a prenuptial to be upheld is that you have to tell a woman well before the wedding. I would state the requirement as soon as possible. Another requirement is that she has to have her own lawyer. Check the laws in your state. If she says that you wouldn't ask for one if you loved her, tell her that she wouldn't refuse to sign one if she loved you.
@@michaelcavalier8750the real numbers for a prenup is only upheld only 1% of 100% in the twentieth century there would be no reason to be married or have children.
I'm 69. Never married. In my earlier life, I watched several of my friends have their lives and finances destroyed in divorce settlements. The system is rigged against men. That is beyond dispute.
@@evozero905 It misses 100% of the time I've tried that. They either reject me entirely or say that I need to wine & dine them at expensive restaurants, shower then with expensive gifts, commit to them, be interrogated by their friends & family etc.
@@davidz3879 I have experienced the same thing. For better or worse, I'm older now, so diminished testosterone and experience has taken the edge off the hurt.
@@davidz3879 I've had pretty decent success just starting a conversation out in public and making the intent know usually with in 15-30 mins of meeting. If you get shot down politely end the conversation and move on. Something about the boldness works on some of them.
A majority of my peers during my career were women so I got over 30 years worth of listening to women's conversation. Wow. Soooo different than what men talk about. One of the things I heard over and over was some paraphrase of "I am NOT cooking or cleaning the house." They would brag about how they do not cook and tell their husbands that if they want to eat either fix it yourself or go get something. I was shocked the first time I heard this type of banter. Then I heard again and again. When one started with something like; "my husband actually asked me what was for dinner" and then she tells all the listening ears how she put him in his place and that he will never ask me that again, ya da, ya da, ya da. I came from a family where my mom (who had a college education) stayed home to raise her four children. My grandmother lived close by and she was a homemaker and I loved them both dearly and respected the job they did. What a benefit to have a mom there to raise you as an infant and waiting for you when you came thru the door after school (most of the time with some cookies or some such treat). Mothers that are home makers have more effect on the next generation than anyone. I thought I found a woman who wanted to raise our children but when the time came.....not so much. I saw my infant sons and daughters carted off to this person and that person during the day so she could work. It literally broke my heart especially since I was the primary bread winner and her check essentially went for daycare! I was heartache I don't think I will ever really get over. I didn't want my children raised by other people but there were for a large portion of their young lives.
@johnstrein3925 I worked at a place with a shared lunch room and heard all sorts of that kind of talk from the women. It’s as if they were trying to out do each other when it came to doing absolutely nothing at home and making themselves difficult to get along with for their husbands. If a woman spends 2 hours tidying up the house, cleaning a bathroom, doing a couple loads of laundry, she will make it sound like she performed some sort of heroic marathon; and her husband did absolutely NOTHING to help her!! If during that same period of time the husband was out cutting the grass, weeding the lawn and garden beds, and organized the outdoor shed, his wife will literally believe that he did absolutely nothing to “help her”. Men are 100% expected to wash, maintain, and repair the family vehicles. Men are expected to do the vast majority or yard work and landscaping around the home. Men are expected to maintain and repair anything within the home from doing drywall repairs, appliance repairs, fixing clogged drains and toilets, repair or replace faucets, etc. Men are expected to shovel snow, replace worn out shingles or damaged siding, and basically do anything and everything heavy, dirty, or complicated in or around the house. Men DO NOT complain to their wives or anyone else that their wife doesn’t help with any of these chores, they just do them. When it comes to the light cleaning and tasks within the house like dusting, dishes, laundry, etc. women expect men to help with these tasks; even though several of them are done by machine. I have literally heard women claim that they did laundry for 8 hours in a single day!! lol what they actually did was put 4 loads of clothes into one machine from the other, fold the clothes, then put them away. The fact is that the machines did most of the work and her total time spent actively doing something was more like one hour. They also leave out that they watched 4 movies while slaving away at that laundry!! Haha!!
@jaymiller6009 this is all true. I do a lot of service calls and even women who are privileged enough not to work for a living because the husband makes good income the wife just hires help for everything and many gain weight to the point of obesity even though they have all day to exercise and the opportunity to eat healthy but they don't. Overall the wives seem ungrateful and it's like the more the husband does to appease his wife the more the wife becomes ungrateful and just wants more because what she has isn't enough. The husband's are absolutely miserable even if they're making money.
Sarah keeps spitting the fire. She's 1000% correct. And in the end about masculine and feminine lose out because it's really nice to have a great relationship. It does make life better
Hi Dawn - what you said about teamwork and building a life together - that resonates SO much with me. My wife and I met when I had some problems in my career. Things were not going well. But she believed in me and we worked together to solve our problems. We had some pretty serious conversations back then on what we needed to do. Thirty four years later, two amazing boys who have started their own careers, and looking forward to a comfortable (but not wealthy) retirement I'd say things kind of worked out. It takes two to be ready to roll up their sleeves and work through the curves that life throws your way.
I remember in school 30 years ago, one of the first things our parents taught us here in Norway was that paychecks were something we don't discuss. It was rude to discuss parent's paychecks, and we should be thankful that our parents are doing everything they could to give us a good life. My grandpa always put emphasis on "meeting each other in the middle" when it comes to relationships. There is no room for "my way or the high way". Personally, I think a lot of today's women are just spitting out demands without truly understanding what they are asking for.
Of course that is the case. You see it so many times on YT channels where they get the percentages out and even average nothing special to look at women are demanding that a man be six foot tall, earn a six figure salary, and have a six pack. Add all of that together and they aren't even looking for the top 5%. That is too "relaxed" of standards for these women now. They are looking for the top 1%.
As an American I have a conspiracy theory that foreign entities are trying to tear this country apart from the inside in many ways with one of them being getting men and women to hate each other. It destroys everything to break up a family. My ex has turned into the absolute most horrible person in coparenting. I’m under the impression the in Norway men and women treat each other more as equals than in America, but has that changed?
@@holdover8199 That theory has been proven. It's a global thing. The world economic forum openly admits that they want to reduce population. Look at agenda 2030, and the former agenda 2021. You have to be actively ignoring what is taking place not to see it. If you want to see the source of corruption, look at who is benefiting. Women are not benefiting from feminism. It takes women out of a family setting at a time when they are most fertile to train them to sit in a cold cubical as corporate property, and debt slaves who pay taxes. Now we have twice as many people in the work force competing for the same jobs, thereby bidding down wages. Corporations benefit from cheap labor. Eliminating the strong family unit means less generational wealth, (a power grab). It's all by design, and has been heavily propagandized, (for anyone paying attention). They keep us divided so we don't see who the real enemy is. There is no accountability at the top of the power structure. People at the bottom get blamed for everything, and suffer the consequences.
I am 64 years old and have been disabled for 25 years. My disability is basically invisible. I divorced 14 years ago. I stopped dating 8 years ago after two relationships that were bad choices for me and I realized that I was just filling the loneliness in my life and my fear of the day that I would no longer be able to care for myself. I'm okay now being alone and have been able to save money even on disability. My life is quiet and without any major stressers. My only regret is that I rarely, if ever, hear from my 2 adult children. Last heard from my son 7 years ago and last saw my daughter a year before covid. There's seems to be nothing I can do to change that. You play the hand life deals you. Women have zero interest in someone with health issues and I have accepted that for what it is. May peace touch your soul.
Visit a country overseas. Even if you go once a year it will be worth it. Thailand or the Philippines. Even with disability you will be fine as long as you can get around.
I tell this story lots. On our first official date I took my, now, wife to one of my favorite pubs. I forgot it was a home Kentucky basketball game night so the wait was two hours. (Not a sports fan so I didn’t think about it) Decided to go a mile down to try one of my favorite soup/sandwich places. Only open until 4pm. I only ate there during work lunches so I never noticed they closed early. *flop sweat intensifies* I asked her if it’d be ok if we went to a local chain steakhouse down the street. She looked at me and said “sure we can try that, and if that doesn’t work, there’s an Arby’s next door that I’d be happy to with with you to” I should have known that was a sign she wasn’t in it for money etc and was just a good all American girl. 11 years later and still couldn’t tell you any fights we’ve had. I asked her and she couldn’t think of one either. Life isn’t easy but we get through it together. Gentlemen, find yourself a girl who’s willing to get a roast beef and cheese sandwich on a first date. You’ll be together forever :)
@@joeskeptical4762 that’s why we both had to think about it because I hear about all the marital spats that go on and we both can’t think of one. Maybe I should go try to start one so I can be “normal” like everyone else lol Time to buy a really expensive ski boat using high interest credit without consulting my other half *rubs hands together* ;)
Just because you're not getting a paycheck from an employer doesn't mean you're not "working." It's ridiculous that so many people even need to be told this.
I am a woman 100% agree with this video. I know women who have acted like this. I am personally so frustrated with other women. Marriage is a team. You don't go in to a relationship think about how much they are making or trying to change someone (which I have seen women do) You go in it for love. A wife supports her husband, encourages him to follow his dreams, gives him input, and raises him up. Men I really do sympathies. I say don't go in to a relationship until you get a woman you deserve and nothing less ❤
The presumption of a shared effort no longer in fashion. Women now prefer to jump ship at the first sign of white water. Men hung in there out of a sense of loyalty and commitment to the family for decades. The rules have changed.
Now it is all about hypergamy + no fault divorces as the woman's excuse to monkey branch her way up the social tree while financially raping all of the men along the way.
Usually men are the ones dishing out the bs that's why the women jump ship. Men swear they don't benefit from marraige but look how their mortality rate increases when they are single
One day when I was a teenager and started noticing girls, my father pulled me aside and said “you’ve got to be careful where you stick that thing.”. A bit crude perhaps. but it remains the best piece of advice he ever gave me. And in spite of some of these comments, there are still a lot of good women out there who are worthy of your time and energy.
sure...they met their BF at 15 and are married since 18 and are just gonna cruise along life with him until death.....there are good women yes...just not the single ones
Never been married. No kids. I made a choice in my late 20's to stop chasing women. I put my head down and worked more and harder. I worked 6 days a week, 12hr shifts. No life outside of work. It really sucked. I only have one friend i hang out with to this day. Now, i own my own house outright. And in the past 5 yrs. I have been to italy, france, maui, and brazil. And this year i drove across the U.S on my Harley. It was so fun. I think i made the best decision for my life. I have money, freedom.
Like you I chose to never marry in my early Twenties. Will be 62 later this year, no regrets never marrying or having children. I focused on my Goals & Dreams. Retired early,debt free able to travel. Had ample time to my hobbies and passion. Life throws you some bumps but life has been great. Well done you were ahead of the game!!!
I made the mistake of getting involved with a widowed woman who had three adult children (We were both in our late 40s) at work. We decided to live together at her small house in the hills. It went fine for a while, then she started talking about quitting work to stay at home to pursue her hobbies, while I kept working and getting on to my health insurance policies. Soon, she stopped cooking meals, because she was either too tired or hated cooking altogether and when I asked her to sew on a couple of buttons, she acted like I was sending her to a work shop. I finally gave up and left.
I'm a 72 year old WM.When I was 13 my mother told me,"never trust a woman"and "never get married".She also told me to "never knock up a chick because you'll regret it the rest of your life"I held true to what my mother told me.
That’s pretty sad. You’ll never find what you aren’t looking for. Given you always “knew” there aren’t any good women then there aren’t….for you. There are tons of great women out there.
My then-80 year old grandmother said the same thing to me in the early 1970s when I became of age. And she was from a generation where a woman was expected to be married by 20-22 and have two babies or more by age 25. I took her advice and am totally free ever since.
My wife of 28 years left our marriage ten years ago. Our kids were adults. She left for a man 10 yrs younger than her and 16 yrs younger than me. I wound up paying about $100k and her legal fees. I paid for her license in real estate. Eventually, she made twice the amount I made, yet, the court wouldn't modify my support to her. It took her hiding assets in discovery that got her to agree to stopping the support. Because in our state if assets are hidden and the other party finds out? The person who found out gets triple what is hidden. She found her boy toy via Facebook. She's now onto guy number 4. Sadly, she now has some serious health issues. So, I am praying for her. But I refuse to entertain kumbaya moments during the holidays. Sorry still bitter.
I live in Canada. Even if I don't get married, my government will still consider me married if I live with a woman for a couple years. Negotiating my own relationship under that circumstance is next to impossible!
Governments keep making it harder for men to justify getting involved with women. Canadian women better get comfortable with the idea of LTA (Living Together Apart) relationships.
Actually there was a horrific case from Canada where the courts said that a man and a woman who hung out but never had kids and never had the same address but did on occasion spend a holiday or weekend together were husband and wife for legal reasons thus she got divorce payout from the marriage that never was. The only truly safe method now is not getting involved at all.
I saw what happened to guys I worked with in my 20s and that was enough to keep me single. And that was in the 90s. A smart person learns from their mistakes; a wise person learns from other peoples’ mistakes. There were lonely times, but lonely beats nightmare. And I was still free. And the sad fact is, unless you date with purpose and for a long time, you don’t know what you’re in for until the rings go on. Then the masks can come off. Keep chasing based on what’s only skin deep and enjoy the court system.
Finally a straight thinking and rational woman speaking on a critical topic: Marriage, home values, reject/accept ratio, costs, etc. You got a sub from me, and a like!
Wow. Your comment about the lack of traditional wives still expecting traditional men was spot on. I have an appreciation for people who can see clearly through these very clouded and foggy times, and cut to the chase. You are one of them. New Sub. You are one of the very few women who can see things from the male perspective.
A man can't provide for a woman unless she can provide for him as well. I own my home. I don't have time to work full time, take care of everything around the house, and cater to a woman's needs.. it's too much. I need help around the house at the very least, just to have time for HER. I would love to be in a relationship but most women seem like selfish children these days, so I stay alone. And I hate every minute of it.. also, the first time I asked a girl to the dance in highschool, she laughed in my face.. humiliating
As an advocate for reform in Canada: 1. The average woman separating has planned it for 2 years 2. Most prenups are trashed because it is assumed women are incapable of understanding the terms without at least the help of half a dozen family law lawyers, trust lawyers, tax accountants/lawyers etc.
@@tymanning2832 You implying the women are gold -diggers? Prenuptial go both ways, especially with previous relationship and children, and peoples' parents wealth. A bad generalisztiom, but the courts do handle based on gender -- women gave to much or women did not give enough.
Just like with now lots of women claiming in a divorce of physical abuse to enhance prizes they also will claim being forced to sign the prenup so the judge can have the excuse to throw it out of court.
It's really not complicated. Why spend a significant amount of our time, energy attention and money to put ourselves in a situation that makes our life more difficult, more expensive, creates more work and takes away from the things that we enjoy doing in life? The best advice for any man is to create a life that you love and if you happen to find a woman who fits into it well along the way, great! If not, you still have a life that you love. It's far better to create a life you love and live alone than wishing you were alone! I speak from experience! 24 years of it.
There is also a segment of men who were automatically excluded from the marriage pool during their eligible bachelor years due to superficial characteristics such as lack of height or good looks, social awkwardness, or still struggling to establish a viable career. But now that we're older, wiser, and successful, we look around at the quality of women who now deign "to give us the time of day" and we realize that all of those women who rejected us in our youth were actually doing us a big favor. So, speaking for myself, thanks ladies for being so condescending and contemptuous of my efforts to gain your attention. Now that I've sailed into a very comfortable retirement, none of you have your claws dug into any of it.
Here is another aspect of this that most people do not discuss. There is no way for woman to turn away from this programming they have received their entire lives and is reinforced by other women. We are beyond the point of no return fellas.
my ex had been turned into a unfaithful b*** who cheats absolutely every occasion she gets after she went to a psychiatrist following her divorce....before that therapy she was a faithful housewife for 10 years
@@Mikexxx531Yeah, let us go back to the 17th and 18th centuries with higher death rates due to accidents and injuries, more unknown diseases and overall lower life expectancies for newborn babies. 😮
A retired friend of ours lost his wife to breast cancer 3 years ago. After a year he started to date. Even older women now ask him about financial status on the first date (pensions, social security, 401K plans, material assets, bank accounts). Anything that they could take in a divorce settlement is what they want to know about. My friend is looking for a rich woman.
Lost my wife to cancer almost 3 yrs ago , were married 36 yrs , what I see now I will never marry again . Even a relationship is not interesting nor wanted
Shocking how brazen and mercenary western women are now that they have altered western society to treat them as the poor, defenceless and righteous victims of men.
I was marries for 19 years, miserable, she has a career but still gets half my pension. I now can't retire. If I did still have to work to survive. I will literally work until I die and she,woth her pwn pension, will also get half of mine as well as have her husband to support her. She got 2k a month in childsupport for 2 kids to boot. The system is absolutely screwed up. Dont gett married, dont have kids. It a bad deal for men.
She married again and you're still paying alimony? That's not right. Her next marriage should cancel out the alimony, because her new husband should be supporting her.
@@arnoldjohnson3317 Ok. My point was that once the ex-wife remarries, her new husband takes over supporting her, so her ex-husband should not need to continue doing that.
Wow! I'm really impressed to see an intelligent woman calling other woman out and being a voice for men that are always being controlled and manipulated. Thank you
My ex wife went for everything in the divorce. I was fortunate enough to have family that were willing to “bank roll” my divorce for me to make sure she didn’t. She ended up giving up after it got to be too expensive for her and we settled at 50/50 everything and no CS. She didn’t deserve a dime more after cheating and screwing me so over in every other way.
I’m 70 years old and had a great career with good income. Over the years I’ve found most women are just after money and status. They treat you like a trophy and show you off to their friends. When I ignored a woman at the workplace as she was trying to come on to me she then started all kinds of false allegations. If you are a women with a broken down vehicle I refused to stop and help because a friend did this and the woman did some research on my friend and found out he was well to do she tried to sue him for inappropriate behavior.
Do you date women your age?? It sounds like you are looking for women at work who are under you and probably have some kind of delusions they are into you and women who need financial help so you can feel they will stay with you. If they are after money and status , You mention I have good career and good money how is that relevant here? The moment you look for somebody your age I don’t think that will be mind games or “false allegations” at workplace because a 70 years old woman will be retired and taking care of family and animals, never heard of a 70 years old woman playing mind games that much.
@@karla683 I’ve been retired for a while now. I’ve always had a policy to never date anyone at work or even make compliments to them or talk about them with other coworkers. I would even refuse to go out to lunch with a woman if there wasn’t 2 other people there. I did like to sit back and watch others making fools of themselves though. It usually didn’t end up good for one or the other or both. I married when I retired over 10 years ago. I married someone my age that lost her husband to cancer. She shares the same values as I and we have a great time together. We first met when we were 12. We dated for a summer in high school. I went and saw the world and ended up in Alaska.
@@Chris_at_Home good for you. Work is a place of back stabbing, envy and people doing everything they can to get an advantage on somebody else. People date at work I don’t know how they can. It is always drama. It usually toxic with powerful people want to feel they can do whatever they want because they control peoples career, and some envy people who don’t have work integrity that will boost some powerful people’s ego to have an advantage over somebody else. Sorry for being so blunt usually when men talk about money bluntly is an invitation to abusers to come to their life. A woman who loves you will love you for the jokes you make during a date not for the amount of bragging about a career and power.
In the first date never go to a dinner date. It's a coffee date or drink. She insists on a dinner date or a lunch date just canceled the date and move on.
I have my oldest granddaughter of fifteen years old visiting me this weekend. I think I’ll listen to this again when she can hear it and see if I can get a reaction and a lead in to a conversation. Great Video, this really needs to make it to more women in my opinion.
The Manosphere, MGTOW and all red pill related issues are a outburst of the frustration that (heterosexual) men feel about today’s dating/ marriage and relationships. Hence why Rich Cooper (Entrepreneur In Cars) the late Kevin Samuels and even the controversial Andrew Tate are proving popular with men.
This has to be one of your best videos that’s most definitely struck a chord with me. I’m 68 and never got married and living through these current years makes me glad that I didn’t. Your talking about traditional women of course reminded me of my mom. She worked full time since she was a teen then got married and still worked full time but there wasn’t a day that she didn’t come home and make dinner. I can’t ever remember her saying she was too tired or her day was hell. And we never ate out except for the rare occasion when there were other people involved. I think women today use having a full time job as an excuse to be lazy and take the easy way. And you know who suffers for it? Not just the husbands but the kids also..
Expecting women to work full time and come home and get dinner ready and call them lazy if they don’t. Tell me, what do you do in a relationship? A man is a provider and protector what are you? You want the woman to provide and protect you?
@@karla683 I have no idea where you are coming from. My point was that from what I see in todays modern woman is she thinks she’s so special because she has a career or some demanding job that she’s not obligated to cook a meal when she comes home from work. And I’m not inferring that a man is exempt from that duty also but in a traditional family which I grew up in the cooking and cleaning duties were primarily the wife’s area of expertise. The traditional family duties have definitely blurred the lines between men and women and there in lies the problem. So excuse me if I’m of the Leave It To Beaver generation.
Man, I knew this stuff back in 93. I saw my friends having kids. After two, three years later the trouble starts. Two years later then the divorce starts.
I was in the darkest time of my life during middle school, full on nihilistic self-hatred. Ot was during this time that I myself was publicly shamed for confessing to someone, during lunch, who I thought was my friend. Our middle school had the entire school take lunch at the same time. I will tell you this: I have never forgotten that feeling, and I don't know how deeply it has effected me, but it's VERY deep.
I'm sorry, man. People can be so cruel during those early years. I went through bullying and exclusion myself, and although I've overcome a lot since then, those memories and feelings still come back now and then. Don't define yourself by other people's retarded views or behavior. Be kind to yourself.
Yep! Why? Why put up with it. Wanted kids and have my two. Love being father, coach and role model and both daughters turned out well and traditional. First wife, had affair, left and now waiting for my last daughter to turn 19 and then parole from second. Not worth it anymore! Here is your half, now go away. Peace. No more selfishness, self rightousness or this entitlement BS to put up with. Both my daughters are disgusted by their mothers' behavior. There is hope.
A close friend told me that his friend Patrick was married for 28 years and decided to moved next state over for a job. Well wife wanted to travel to visit family and girlfriends but didn't mention one of his friends. So he now is divorce and lost a friend. I tell my female friends and they say always there is two sides of this story.
You're absolutely right about all the points that you make. The problem is that women are not watching your program. They're watching programs by other women who are telling them to screw men over. Telling them that they're amazing and they all deserve the best, and that they should squeeze everything they can out of every guy they meet. You're making videos for guys. We already know and agree with everything you're saying. Nothing is going to change. In fact I think it's going to get worse.
Love your content. Most women only care how much money a guy can give them. I've been divorced for a few years and I couldn't be happier I don't have my ex wife nit picking every little thing
As a single dad I do both the traditional man and woman roles. I work, cook, sew, do the house and yard and the washing. I used to do all this when I was single and lived on my own and even when I was younger before I moved out. Single women without kids aren’t interested in single dads they want to go out all the time and don’t get why I would rather be at home or cook a fancy meal. Single mothers aren’t much better they expect you to take on a father role for their kids and provide for her and them but don’t want anything to do with your kids or want to pay anything for them. Add into the equation that I’m 5’10 don’t have a six pack and don’t earn 6 figures and you are not an option for modern women. I have been single for a few years and I am happy with life. I have friends and family for company work and kids activities for more socialising. Literally all that I don’t have is a warm body to share my bed with.
I have seen a lot of videos talking about how bad marriage is for men. And I have been wondering why none of them ever mention a prenup? You are the first person I have heard mention that. You are also the first person to come straight out and say marriage is something strictly for women. I hadn’t thought of it that way yet. So you’ve really given me something to think about. Thank you.
Sarah, I appreciate your empathy. I have fantastic woman friends who are like family too me. Dating a woman in our current culture, however is something I haven't done for well over 5 years. It's not safe to be that vulnerable with a woman anymore. I'm incredibly sad and frustrated by that. Loneliness is incredibly harsh the older one gets. My former self, out in public would make eye contact, say hello, make small talk with women. Now? Forget it. It hurts.
15 years ago when I was single I dated a lot. It was like groundhog day. I heard myself saying basically the same thing on all the dates. I even think took most of the women to the same restaurant. The dates mostly ended up with sex. It costed a lot of money but the women were all very nice. I dont miss dating much. It is really nice to be with the same woman.
That was some serious red pill. Most of our grandpas and great grandpas got a much better deal. I'm so happy to have found my unicorn. She, her mom, and her grandmother are all amazing. Her grandfather proposed to his lady at around the 3 week mark. They celebrated their 60th this year. He didn't get a turn, he got a woman and a fine one at that. I have the greatest empathy for these and other women who don't behave anything like the modern majority.
@@nate2759 It's easy to do when you've been badly burned a few times. Wisdom brings the understanding that every person must be taken individually. Those who don't figure this out miss out.
@@randyduncan795 Yes, I have been burned by both men and women. There is bad apples everywhere but, there is also some good apples. If you think every apple is bad then you will never find the good.
Absolutely wonderful video. I loved how you finished by talking about empathy. It is the number one trait that men should be looking for to protect themselves against false harassment allegations, poor contraceptive options and fears about conception by deception, and being dragged through the family court system. If there are any signs of entitlement and narcissism, run in the opposite direction immediately.
Isn't the reason why govt gets involved in divorce is because its looked at as a business contract to some degree? The disconnect is that divorce doesn't go to civil court but rather family court which doesn't have to play by the rules. Judge gets to make stuff up. No jury. Everything is "for the kids" but the kids are never actually considered in any decision making.
Even though the state isn't out any money,cause the fathers pay child support. The federal government pays the state 2/3rd of the money that is paid out in child support. Now you know why the state tries to get so many men to pay child support.
Coffee is the perfect first date, regardless of income. It's perfect for chatting, getting to know more about someone in a casual setting, in a nice public place. It can give both parties a bit of an option to end the date early or linger longer or, if both are amenable, go on for some lunch. Starting out of the box with anyone, not just men, paying for a $400 dinner for two, is ridiculous. This is, of course, if you're a man still even open to dating.
The perfect first date is a woman preparing a meal to show her skills. I like the coffee thing as a first meeting in person, but is it really a date? That's debatable.
@@qua7771 Not debatable. A date is meeting to engage in conversation/activity. People can meet for a date on a park bench to chat and feed the pigeons, if that's what they want for a date. Why a meal? It seems a bit Neaderthal-ish to expect a woman to prepare a meal, at her home, as some sort of test. I'm a man and find that very odd. Is that what your significant other did?
@@walkingstick6655 I had an ex that didn't cook, but a neighbor girl that did. It showed that she cared, and had skills. I don't do the on-line dating thing. The women I know I met in daily life, so we have already had idle conversation. To me a date is the next level, when your actually engaging in some level of intimacy. Not a brief meet, and greet of two people who never met before. I'm definitely against providing expensive diners to gold diggers who ask how much you earn. It's about what a woman contributes to a relationship in this day and age. Modern women are useless.
@@qua7771 I tried on-line dating about 10 years ago and found it depressing. I no longer date, for a variety of reasons. Most people would consider meeting for coffee a date, not a dinner date, but a date. I'd much rather the first date be coffee. If it goes well, then a lunch date. If that goes well, then a dinner date. There's zero rationale for jumping straight to the first date being an expensive meal. And, most women, even "old fashioned", "traditional" women are going to rightfully be wary of having you in their home and cooking for you on any first date. I would actually say that you should beware of any woman who would do that. There's definitely a calculating agenda if she offers to do that, which is the only way I could imagine it even happening, because no man should be suggesting this. If he did and she agreed, you're both a bit suspect and deserve whatever trainwreck is created.
I'll keep this simple. I'm 54 years old and STILL dealing with BS from my divorce 23 years ago. I'm not sure that I'll ever recover even if the BS stopped today. Marriage isn't a problem. It's the "legal" management of divorce.
In the 23 years of marriage we pass the cooking back and forth. When I was home with the kids, I cooked and cleaned. When I returned to teaching, he'd take the cooking and I would do the cleanup. Tonight I cleaned and I cooked, he said thanks, and now we're chill. The only thing he needed to have was a sense of humor that matched mine. That way when I clean in the kitchen and make the spatulas have a war in the soap bubbles he just giggles. I think couples who are doing well don't announce diddly squat. Why? Because they are busy living their lives. I'm watching these because a young teen girl is sitting behind me and pretends not to listen. :)
I'm glad I read this comment. I'm the male equalizer for it. The kitchen is mine, and the garage. The wife and I split the rest, save the laundry, that's hers. But I will do that when asked/ needed. We've been married 22 years, together 27. We have 1 surviving daughter, almost 12, amd I watch videos like this for her as well. She needs to know both how to treat someone, and be treated by someone. People like us just live our lives.
There are women in their 30s who stream on twitch who have admitted to not only having never cooked a meal for themselves but also never having boiled water. Just think about that. Mid 30s and have not done a basic life task.
They don't owe you anything. There are men like my brother who are 30 and have never had a job. We don't anyone anything in this world. Why do before want every women to bend to society knowing fully well their own sex dont
Wow! So true. Looking back after 20years with my wife. She forged me into the man j am. She noted my potential and made who I am. That's a woman in my eye's.
This was excellent. Thank you for making this video. I'll just speak for myself, not all men. I do feel this way, and having our emotions validated is a refreshing change from the shaming language that we're so used to experiencing.
I find it very satisfying that there are hundreds, thousands, of videos saying the exact same thing I was saying back in the 90's. Back then I was laughed at, now I feel more like a prophet. I wonder how many men and women back then that laughed at me are now remembering those discussions.
I grew up with 2 older sisters, 8 and 10 years older. I listen to them and my mom and her friends hate on and making fun of men so the time, and there i was a little kid taking it all in, essentially, how terrible and stupid I was. I listen to my sisters talk about making fun of guys that approached them. I never approached a woman because of fear of humiliation, I only waited for women to approach me, even on dating apps, which weren't a thing until my 30s.
I had the same experience growing up with 3 sisters, 2 older and 1 younger. Always heard em talking s!#+ about men. No surprise that I never wanted to get married.
@@msakiblab no, I rarely speak to them. I've done a lot of therapy and now have a kind loving wife, she approached me, and 2 kids that I won't let be exposed to them. That's why I don't interact with them anymore.
Told an acquaintance that I liked her and wanted to date. She said she wanted me to write it to her. I didn't understand why, but I foolishly did. The next time I saw her she was with a group of our acquaintances, letter in hand, laughing with them about what I'd written. I was so embarrassed at how absolutely stupid I was. Looking back on it I still cringe, but in reality, it was the best day of my life. I ended up with a great gal and that once pretty girl is a half-dead, drug-addicted hag whose best years were in high school. I just wish I hadn't gone through that to find out what so many people are capable of.
Look on the bright side...if you had done this at work with a co-worker, that letter would have been presented to you by an HR professional as they fire you for harassment. At least you figured out how cruel they can be when they didn't have any other power to affect your life. Still sucks, but better to learn early and cheaply.
Typical simp. Sry man but you can’t be doing that. Women are very manipulative. Sure you might find a few who are not but really that’s rare. Good luck sir.
Imagine now days where everything is electronically logged somewhere & most communication is over the phone or internet. Everyone who uses it is taking a huge risk when it comes to humiliation, blackmail or incrimination.
This pretty much described everything Dating isn't worth the risk, I'm saving myself a fuck ton of money and mental stability by not dating It's kinda ironic tho, but if I'd go and walk up to girls to get a date and get a penny for everytime I won't be attractive to them, I'd soon enough actually become attractive for them Now I must say I don't necessarily want a traditional woman, but housework and making money should be balanced out between the 2 in a couple, whether that's 1 sole breadwinner and a housewife/houseman or both working and doing the chores together
Done right, dating is not a huge risk. The risk comes with the commitment. Whether you start sleeping together, start cohabitating, or spend more money than the value of the commitment, then the risk comes. No harm in taking a girl out to mini-golf and ice cream. If she thinks she deserves an expensive meal or drinks on a date just because she is a woman, she can pound sand.
"if I'd go and walk up to girls to get a date and get a penny for everytime I won't be attractive to them, I'd soon enough actually become attractive for them" LMAO, this might actually work.
@@rokzane that's more than fair All I'm saying is that in a household housework and providing income should always be devided equally between 2 spouses
Sarah you're a true treasure to the emotional well being of men, I only wish the message could have started 30 years ago, I'd have maybe avoided the horrible divorce and years of depression. Please keep being a hero!
For me personally I am just fucking tired. After my divorce I suffered so much emotionally. Growing up as a boy I was often told that if I did good that good things would come back. But as I grew I tried to be a good guy. I always treated women respectfully as best as I could and I always took my relationships rather seriously with the hope of achieving marriage. I loved, cared, and honored women as best as I could. I worked hard in my church and community. Looking back now. I don't think I ever had good things comeback. My ex-wife cheated on me, and made rape accusations against me so that she can have an advantage in court. She now has full custody of my daughter and I have no parental rights to her because of that. As far as the system is concerned, I was guilty until proven innocent. It left me broken for a very long time. In my time post divorce as I am recovering from suicidal thoughts. The only things I see is so many women just hating men and justifying bad behaviors towards men because apparently we are all just "evil, oppressive, disgusting pigs". Like I grew up trying to do good, but all I got back was suffering and pain. Society is telling me "fuck you", women are telling me "fuck you", and yet I am also being told "be a provider, protector, and leader. Be a good guy." Why? Why should I? Why should I be all these things when nothing good comes of it? Why should I invest in all of that effort if all that comes back is pain and suffer for me? So I've come to the conclusion that I'm just not gonna participate. I'm just gonna do what I want and I'm just gonna say ,"fuck it". I plan to get a home and get a dog. Because dogs don't ask for anything unreasonable and will love me if I pour love into them. Society and women haven't done that for me. This is a very hard decision I made because for me it was like choosing two poisons. Live alone with a dog or try to continue to do good in society that feels like it literally hates me. My ideal choice would be to find wife and have a family that reciprocates that love I pour in. It's just sad that a dog can do that better than a human being. This is why I'm going my own way.
Best wishes to you bro. Everything you said is true. You’re on the right track. Your life is the same is mine. I’m just here to live in defiance and to deny them. My sole purpose in life is not to be a financial stepping stone for women.
You did the right things for yourself during your upbringing. Don't lose those ideals or you will be disappointed in yourself. Now that would be a personal calamity. However, don't trust women too much. Most of them have no principles or morality. I have learnt that the most beautiful ones mostly have none of the above qualities.
One of my favorite sayings are "nice guys finish last" & "no good deed goes unpunished" and both are 100% true. I too thought like you did. I was raised by my grandparents. Dad was a POS who beat my mom while preggo with me. only met em a few times as they were not together by the time i could remember anything. mom ended up meeting my stepdad and were together since 1996 when i was just 3 years old. Step dad was an alcoholic POS, him & mom always fighted. I hated him & was glad his ass died in 2018. anyhow I was always told to respect women and all the crap about women being "special" and shit, never hit a woman, never disrespect a woman. Hold the doors open, blah blah blah. I actually believed all that shit and took my relationships seriously, never cheated or showed other girls attention when i was dating a girl or even when we were talking & showing interest in 1 another. I actually thought that I would have a story like my grandparents relationship story. I'd find a girl, we would fall inlove with each other being each others first and only love & we would get married and be together till we have kids and grandkids. That is till about my 3rd romantic relationship ended in 2017, yet again to discovering the girl i thought i loved at the time was cheating on me. I had 3 serious relationships up till that point and they all cheated on me. Im just glad i didnt have any kids with any of them because things would be so much worse for me now. I will say that I am disgusted with women. Females these days are cum bucket trash. I have such a majorly drastic view of women than I was raised to believe.
I disagree with ONE thing you said. You talked about yourself as something other than a 10, but the more you talk the more I think we need a level above 10 for you. 100% appreciate your empathy. I'm too old and it's too late for me, but it does my heart good to hear a woman talking this way. Thank you.
About 80% of divorce is filed women, 50% of marriage ends in divorce, what guy wants to play the game with those odds? Like what JOSHUA in War Games said " Strange game, the only winning move is not to play ".
What’s interesting is that I considered my marriage a business agreement! There was money involved, a product (children), and activities were to be mutually beneficial. I lost my wonderful husband 13 years ago. I still believe that marriage is a business contract with a logical view of how to conduct one’s self within the contract.
Thank you for this, thank you for validation. Maybe it a generational thing, at 62 with a lifetime of being the nice guy who wanted a life partner to share my time with. My opinion of women today is its okay to walk on by me .keep walking. Go home to your cat and water your plants. Call your BFF and cry about your life. I have my spot on the shoreline. I have my peace. Thank you for reading this
All of this heaped upon the issues I come with ........... Ha ! Absolutely zero chance of success in the mating game. I don't even think about it. A stillborn idea for me. Good luck ladies & gents ! Im going my own way.
I brought my paycheck home on Thursday night like I had always done. When I got home Friday evening, my clothes were in paper sacks on the front porch and the locks were changed. Her "new" guy had already moved in. Despite the fact that my ex was an alcoholic hooked on drugs and riding the sexual carousel, the judge gave her the best car, the house and custody of my child. Today, my daughter is a recovering drug addict and alcoholic. Thanks, judge. You really did right by my daughter.
🤬 stupid asshole of a judge. I am sorry about your story. I am single and intend to remain so until I am called to The Good Lord.
THEY KILLED MY SON SAME WAY MY LITLE GIRL IS JUNKIE WHORE I'LL SEE THAT JUDGE IN HELL
Thats terrible man, i'm really sorry to hear that ... Hope your daughter finds the help and strength she needs to get over these hurdles, the good news is that your a man and as men we have something that can't be taken away from us ... thats will power that is unyielding in its pursuit, i pray you make it through and regain traction in this life ...
@@dacoup5955 i'm over the worst of it. honestly barely made it. both my kids are gone all for nothing. all i can do now is try to warn younger men cheers.
Sorry to hear. My wife was 'not that bad' (they are all narcissistic, way more then men), but I see it as my kids were 'stolen' by my wife who is a criminal and aided and abetted by the hyper-feministic family 'kangeroo' courts. My daughter does not even speak to me anymore. She does not even speak to my 93 year old father. Totally poisoned by my ex. Whenever a woman is 'sappy and way too complimentary to me' in the gym, I know that something is up with them and ... they want something. Revenge is so sweet!
Im actually now addicted to being single. Ive saved money, travelled, made new friends, had fun, my life is peaceful, have developed new skills, hobbies, and I dont have to put up with endless mood swings and games, no more pointless irrational arguments, no stupid accusations (projecting their own guilt btw), no more being lonely which most relationships are nowadays.
No dealing with them not liking my hobbies (it was cars for many years) or not liking my music or the hours I worked (mostly second or third shifts thru the years) Who wants a nag all the time.?
If you want to have a taste every now and then, get you a purse and sit and hold it miserably in the shopping mall and pretend like you're waiting for one of them to mindlessly shop for hours.
I wouldn't say I'm addicted to being single, but adapted in a way that isn't relationship friendly. I might only check phone messages once per day, etc...
TBH, this is the best option, if you don't have any aspirations to be in a relationship and get married. I also love the feeling of becoming competent through seeing how far you can push yourself in terms of learning, skills, and gaining experiences.
@@alexnightray3204 Exactly. Life has much to offer rather than be tied down in misery with someone.
I stopped dating due to:
- Unrealistic expectations (on the girls part).
- Women never holding themselves accountable and rarely apologize.
- Women showing to much disrespect and selfishness.
- Women rarely showing gratitude or thanks for the things men do for them.
- Women's deep delusion and dishonesty.
Delusional is so true. Many people have complete cognitive dissonance
@@Wes-ku9tb Yes, people, but lets be real here, its mainly the women. They're encouraged by the empowerment movement and social media to behave poorly and selfishly, and indeed many are.
100% on point, nail smashed squarely on the head. That covers it all very succinctly. The harsh truth is, and it's one many men really do not want to accept, is that women are rather like wasps. They are fundamentally unpleasant by nature, and they cannot help it, it's just the way they are. Western women are completely unbearable these days, their expectations are ridiculous generally, and their 'entitlement' is off the scale. The vast majority of them grossly over estimate their own value. Ironically, the older they get- into middle age, the more difficult and choosey they become- despite having hit the wall!
Walk away, and just keep on going gents. Develop your hobbies and interests, work on yourself and your fitness. When you feel the need, pay £120 and spend an hour with a 25 year old escort. You aren't actually paying for the sex, you're paying for her to go away afterwards! Men always pay for sex one way or the other, every relationship with a woman is transactional, so you might as well avoid all the drama, mind games, manipulation, aggravation and plough an escort.
That's because she wasn't a virgin . Once they get di--ed down there is no more respect for any man ever again.
Everything that you’re talking about has been caused by feminism. It promotes the victim mindset and when someone sees themself as being a victim, they never learn from their mistakes and they eventually become monsters.
I got married 5 months ago and was asked for a divorce 3 days ago. Nothing I did was right. I loved her, was loyal, showed affection, and she constantly looked for reasons to fight. I’m in total shock at it all. I’m 47, kids are grown and, I thought I’d give marriage another try since the first marriage I had was 14 years. What a horrible experience I’m going through right now. It’s devastating to know I played by every rule of marriage and there was no way to keep her from being unhappy. Much love to all the men out there who are going through the process and high expectations of today’s women. I’ll never get married again and, I think I’ll be lucky if I ever trust them again. Take care all
hookers is whats left other than dolls and whatnot
@@kokocaptainqcpretty much. At least those inanimate objects don’t lie, cheat, and destroy everything around them.
They can’t be trusted. And women can only love themselves and their kids (sometimes)
I learned very early never to trust women. I have seen men's lives ruined by women who only saw money!
@@RealtyWebDesigners In the same way that animals in the wild "love" their offspring. Did you know that in 70% of cases of children being harmed in the context of a marriage and family, it's the mother doing the harm?
No business contracts no relationship contract no contacts at all. It safer for men to live their life without being destroyed by women and the Court.
That's great - providing you can get plenty of casual action.
@davidz3879 you also get plenty of Herpigonnasyphilaids, and spread it too
Married 41 years this December. It’s been both good and really really bad. Would I do it again? Probably due to the need for sex ( I am religious) woul I pick the same person? Maybe! After all our kids and grandkids are a representation of both of us, but, marriage can really suck at times.
I’m in my mid 60s. Yikes 😹😹 recently divorced. Having a heck of a time finding women my age who isn’t a feminist wannabe, who has had even a little capacity to not compete with me from a place of “I can do everything myself and don’t ‘need’ you. and sex is a favor I give you when you manage to figure out how to treat me.” Definitely not worth the trouble
@@davidz3879 Cheaper to rent or lease. "Casual action" can be expensive as well.
I heard from a 30 year old man recently who said “im not looking for a gf right now, i need to make some changes with my career and just dont want the added complications right now”… what struck me is how there was no consideration at all that a man could find a woman that would actually be helpful during his transition. I am seeing more young men saying versions of the same thing, they see women as a burden more than a soul mate or helper.
That's because they're always telling us we have to already have our things in order, because our role as men is to be a wallet with legs, not to be people.
Few women are supportive of your career and goals. The career is too far separated from what you see at home for her to take interest. I've been married for twenty years to whom I would consider a good woman, but other than being able to come home to a good meal every night and a "How was your day"? There is nothing. I expressed interest in starting my own engineering business in the past and she was set against it, or back when I was Scoutmaster, taking on those extra duties, she was always nagging for me to stay at home more. At 48, I have a cubicle job, steady but soul crushing. I'll probably retire from here.
@@jimjohnson394 a yes i did 25 years marriage… seems to me a man with engineering skills can probably find a gig that allows work from anywhere. I did 15 years or so hard time working in various offices and cubicle environments. The remote work experience is far superior for men … no travel cost, no time burn, almost no office politics and you can take care of personal business in between calls etc. and as a bonus… im more productive because people dont interrupt me as much. Good luck man.. life is short👊
@@spagooter1807insightful and well written, spot on actually minus the global warming thing lol, that’s a fear scheme that just gets rebranded for each generation to tax more. In the 90s it was acid rain. Things are warming up and weather is certainly changing but governments will never fix anything or control the weather, at least it’s not a deep ice age and we can’t grow food because that the more dangerous scenario of the two ☮️
@@spagooter1807 many a young man just as convicted as you are ended up married a couple years later… ask me how I know young bro👊
Caught my first wife cheating on me while I was deployed, but she still had the gall to take me to court to ask the judge to give her my military pension-100% of it. Of course she was laughed out of court but the gall amazed even me. Second wife tried to get alimony by claiming her proof I was potentially violent because I was a former Marine. She too was denied alimony. So yeah, I am financially well off, very happy but I avoid relationships-no thanks! Strongly advise any man thinking about marriage-NO! Learn from us-NO!
Bro what ! you were cheated on while serving our country screw her bro hope u found someone better that treats u right
Did you ever watch Gomer Pyle USMC? In one episode, Gomer almost got hooked by a grifter who wanted his PX card.
@@omotayosatuyi252 NO! I quit, I draw liars and cheaters, don't need any more of them!
@@visaman "Gooooooooolllllly" ;)
thanks for sharing
Once you get over the initial loneliness of deciding to go your own way, you are forced to start looking for happiness elsewhere. And then your mind is blown as to how much is actually out there that does not involve trying to impress women and lock them down. Money, career, hobbies, travel, incredible foods and wine, money, more travel, personal growth, weekend workshops, movies, concerts, MONEY. And total freedom.... Is it lonely? Yes. Is it perfect? No. But the alternative is eating an endless shit sandwich from mean spirited controlling boss bitches (their words). No thanks. I will live my life and take everything I can out of each day.
😂 You put it so beautifully being single. And yes, I am single too.
This is the way 👍
This. Right here. All of it.
When I get that lonely, I draw a dot on the wall and talk to it. Then I go back to counting my money, surfing Home Depot for tools to buy for myself, etc etc. Life cannot be any greater!
The biggest shock I had after I got married, was how disrespectful she was and she didn’t act like we were on the same team. It was always a competition. I was trying to work for goal she was trying to tear me down. I thought I would have a team member and we would support each other. Instead I came home to a nightmare after work and it was complete chaos. Also she wasn’t loyal or kind so we’re not together and she’s dated 25 guys since and is currently single.
Do you think, you was married to a narcissist by any chance?
It's called a personality disorder... been there... felt that. They resent your success.
This is the norm.
You should have known that.
Had the same happen to me, I filed after several marriage ending actions on her part. She ended up getting knocked up quickly after divorce and her backup plan now has lifelong gift from me, I bought a motorcycle and live a life of peace and kindness 🏆
@@dixonyaarmouf4630...".. her backup plan now has lifelong gift from me...".
Please explain. Do you mean you are paying alimony?
You only get 25 years of 'government alimony', care, food & shelter for murder some one said.
Watched this on my late wife's account. I am a 57 yr old man. I have been married 3 times. First marriage in my 20's ended when she began lying to me, trying to manipulate me. Then I dated a girl 16 years younger than me for 5 years, married her and it lasted for a year. Then I met my perfect mate. All the pieces came together with her. We supported one another through the difficult times, laughed together every day. 12 of the best years of my life. When her cancer diagnosis came in, I took care of her to the very end. That last year changed me. I have no energy to play games with women now and, unless one falls into my lap, will remain a widower. Thank you for this video, I hope people take it to heart.
God bless you
I am sorry for your loss
I am sorry ❤
Sorry about your loss man, take care!
Kudos to u buddy u gave love a shot thrice.
The part about damage being lifelong is so true. When I was 17, I finally worked up the courage to ask out a girl in my class, she not only laughed in my face, she raised her voice so everyone in the vicinity could hear her say “I wouldn’t date you if you were the last guy on earth”. You never really get over that, and I’m now 65.
No. If a woman has been living inside your head all this time, that's on you.
And if that's all you had to get over in your life, then you have had a very trouble free life.
It's bad enough hearing this bleeting from women without men joining in.
Get a grip.
Ugh, I'm sorry to hear that. I've had similar moments when women were cruel to me; they come back to mind now and then (had one recur earlier today, which is probably why your comment caught my attention). I have to push back against it, or else I'm liable to sink into a shame spiral. I fight back against that sort of message. I don't want to internalize her shitty attitude towards me. I have to be on my own side with this stuff. I can't buy into how some narcissistic twat thought about me. I'd urge you to do the same -- Don't see yourself the way she saw you. Women can be incredibly stupid, superficial, and mean. She did not know you. Reject her view. It came from ignorance. Don't let c*nts like that define your own self-image. Fight back against that bullshit.
@@BenDover-id7zg I hear you. What I said to humble trader applies here, too. Just one correction: this isn't male aggression. This is female aggression. This is how females aggress. They tear people down verbally. They exclude and reject people. If you listen to Jordan Peterson, you'll hear him outline the well-established clinical facts about female aggression. This is how they do it. Men express aggression directly, sometimes through violence. Women express it through smearing your reputation (as this woman did, publically shaming you). Think of cancel culture. That is mostly a female-driven phenomenon, and it relies on female aggression: reputation destruction, rumors, and rejection/exclusion. This is also why we have seen the rate of suicide among teenage girls double -- because of how they treat each other on social media. I heard it said, "Men will kill you, and women will make you want to kill yourself." That's a little simple but captures it.
If you were the last guy on earth, you would literally have billions of women. You wouldn't be thinking about her, and you shouldn't now.
@@qua7771logically we’ll stated friend.
I'm gay, so my observation from the side lines...
Of all the weddings of my straight friends i went to only 1 marraige survives...
I witnessed 11 broken men, none of which did anything wrong.
Left living alone, no house, no kids, no car, no dogs.
It's been heartbreaking to watch. 😢
I didn't need social media to learn about all of this. Just everyday life experiences. The worst part is the money keeps being sent to them and they are already have multiple men in their lives living with them taking turns using the ex husbands house and money for her fun times.
The divorce rate for new marriages is 50% The divorce rate for second marriages is 67%. The divorce rate for third marriages is 74%, and lasts 1.6 years. In each of these instances, there is a financial incentive for a woman to leave. Based on financial issues alone, why would a sensible man marry? Having said that, add in today's delusional women and...no way.
1000% !!!!!
You are being very, and I stress VERY generous here. The rate is closer to 52% nationally for first time marriage, and depending on the state and locale, can be as high as 64% as it is in Orange County.
I wonder that the numbers are of those who split and just don't file for divorce
@@indigatorveritatis7343 good question.
I would agree and my two brothers would also Sadly they both passed in 22 two marriages each one brother left on his third search and one sister whose been stable in her marriage. even as co owner with her husband Fascinating Old School values
I once overheard a conversation between two women in my office. One of the women had just gotten engaged. The other women asked 'Are you in love?' The engaged woman replied, 'Not really, but he makes lots of money.'
Women are opportunistic, they take advantage of fools and idiots such as the man marrying that women, a man isn’t smart enough to educate themselves that marriage is a terrible idea then I have no sympathy for those men.
That's really sad. So she's going to be married and unhappy. Most likely she will go the unfaithful route so she can have her cake and eat it too
Superficial Bee-ouches!!
Similar I asked her recently married , whether she liked being married - she replied
' he is a good provider ' 🤔
Money solves a lot of problems. Besides women have been put in arranged marriages for forever. Even stories of Prince Charming and Beauty and the Beast are stories of women having to accept their lot in life if romantic partners.
When I got divorced I lost half of everything I owned, and my ex gained all of her half back instantly from the guy she "wasn't" having an affair with. I demanded joint custody of my 3 children, and amazingly got it. However, that quickly turned into full custody and I found myself as a single father with 3 kids. I got child support on time which helped but she had essentially nothing to do with the children from then on. I ended up having to deal with that psychological damage to them by myself. Years later when the kids were adults, and I had time and the desire to find a woman to share my life with, I found that dating in your 40s and 50s is even more of a nightmare than when you are young. Most of the women I met were predators. By the time I finally met someone who was a genuinely nice person, I had become so wary of relationships, that I was "emotionally unavailable". This is causing problems in our relationship. At my age, I can't afford to be financially and emotionally destroyed by a relationship, so I am in a kind of limbo.
Push forward
They call me emotionally unavailable when I don’t tolerate the carry on from them
Im 35 and im already at that stage. You get cheated on and abused by women only soo many times you just LOL life. Do your own thing and enjoy sex if it comes along.
You have to not care about women to gett them to actually like you. Its shallow, boring and women themselves set up a system that teaches us to enjoy not being with them.
Hookers are cheaper. Get your ashes hauled, pay your fee and send her packing. Much, much, much cheaper.
When women hit their 30s/40s they start seeking out a retirement plan. Spell it Y-O-U !
Do not live with them , find one that's independent and has her own house....just have a drop in girlfriend it works for me....casual girlfriend at most .
The peace is worth anything you might have to give up. Peace is worth any price
The biggest mistake of my life was getting married. She changed completely after that. I thought having the big house and kids was what we were supposed to have. The control was unbearable in the relationship. Once I left her I lost everything. She made as much money as me. Now I live by myself a year and a half later in a one bedroom, while she upgraded to a bigger house then we had while married. I don't have my kids, she won't let me see them. I've lost over 50k in court. All I'm left with is debt, resentment and a severe distrust of woman. Be very very careful if you get married
I will never get married and I am sorry for what has happened to you. And please don't worry, karma will get her and set things right.
Sorry that happened you. Hope you're now enjoying freedom and peace
What state and county?
I got divorced 7 years ago and I’ve been MGTOW ever since. Don’t worry, just hang in there and over time things will get better.
Yeah things get better, but it takes a long time. As for karma, I’m still waiting for this to bite my ex 14 years later. As far as I can see, she seems to have gotten away with her abuse, lying, cheating, stealing and genius-dirty-tricks completely Scott-Free!!! Oh well, divorces are expensive cos they’re worth it (ie I’m free of her, and have relative peace). 🙂
Men marry because they love a woman. He normally is not looking for something. It is not a life's goal. He does it to give. He hopes that love will not be abused and that he will be respected.
❤
Amen to that bro'. Problem is.... they just don't get it. I'm a sworn MGTOW.
You don't marry for the moment, you marry for the future
Marriage is a life goal.
@@mariacosta3698 thats the mentality of women, Men dont see it as a life goal but just a step along the way. the goal is well past marriage. The goal is to continue our genetics, ie children, NOT marriage. And since women see it as the end all of their life purpose they dont know what to do after they get married, they just achieved their life goal.
Men only marry to give. Period.
And men are called slavers and oppressors for that.
The idea that men marry to have a cook and a cleaner is ludicrous given that a single man can eat out every day more cheaply than feeding a family at home, and that ever man, person really, is comfortable with whatever level of cleanliness they live in
The core issue is the one way flow of Love. A man loves a woman, but the woman withholds love until it is "purchased" in some way. It's to the point that negotiations don't end at the wedding but intensifies. The man gives and the woman takes. Her "sacrifice" is in (mostly) remaining monogamous in exchange for the freedom to do whatever she wants. The moment the man fails to provide for her "needs" then she is free to cheat, divorce, or just walk away from marriage. This is what it looks like to men these days.
Very well said!
This girl hit the nail on the head. I'm absolutely exhausted with the dating scene.
Never sign a business contract where one party is financially incentivized to break the contract.
A covenant marriage takes No-Fault divorce off the table.
There must be Fault:
Insanity
Bareness
Adultery
Violence
imprisonment
....
Irrevocable marriage, scary?
These days women are more than amply rewarded for breaking up relationships, sadly nowadays it pays for them to do so.
@@Andrew-tx9jy
My wife gets $2500/mo as my WIFE and
Free Lifetime Family Healthcare>>
loses that with divorce.
Half a house won't buy a full house today.
They're not incentivized dividing the assets impoverishes both parties
I was bullied at school by girls who punched and kicked me and I could not retaliate being a boy. Grew up with emotional and trust issues, never knew how to deal with women. Gave up looking at 30. 52 now and sadly my skin is rhino thick. I've seen a good friend marry a known Narssist and it destroyed him. I've seen nothing. NOTHING. Worth the time and bother. Yes I know there are many great women out there but I'm terrified of choosing poorly. All I've seen and been through. I cannot put up with crap anymore.
A lot of women feel the same as you do. Wow. Maybe no one is happy with modern relationships.
@@elenacartagena1224 The human condition eh. Sucks sometimes.
@@elenacartagena1224 Not even close. Women never grow up with the humiliation of being a boy being bullied by girls. No comparison.
So true. Getting married in a Western country is a fool's errand. I've known too many guys who had their lives absolutely wrecked by women who supposedly "loved them."
same here from the UK, but i was in a all males catholic school and that was a whole other thing, there was a girls school over a stream
This situation has been brewing for 35+ years. I speak from the experience of becoming a father in the 80's and dealing with not only the mother of my child, but the weight of the government and it's complete prejudice against fathers.
The government does everything it can to destroy the father's economic ability to provide for their children, while at the same time, completely supporting the mother's less than mediocre life choices that create 'adults' with absolutely no value to society.
Utter nonsense
@@stevenhenry5267 Wow, blind person here......lol
@@ericgoingoverseas5064 not a person at all id say
Perfectly said. A single mother only cares about her kids until the new man comes along. Then they just become a nuisance to her. I've interviewed hundreds of male children raised by single moms on this subject. 99% of them agreed with my assessment
we live in an anti male set of laws and society..
I am a very traditional, Christian man who has just over 40 years married, to the same woman.
My heart broke when you were describing the "the man must be earning 6 figures" ... I would have NEVER been married if that was the case.
I was an incredibly insecure man of 18 when I met my wife, who is 4 years older than me.
She saw things in me that I had NO idea existed.
She literally transformed my life and the way that I saw myself and what I could accomplish.
And I was penniless - I was literally just done my first year of university and didn't even have a summer job - we married the next summer when I was still in school (she was working, assistant manager at a retail store).
When I DID get a career job she stayed home to raise the kids and we made do ...
AND OUR LIVES ARE RICH!
We just finished hosting a going away party for our grandson's girlfriend, who is off to university shortly ... a grandson who will actually drive up to our house and drop in for a visit.
THAT IS WORTH MONEY IN THE BANK, PEOPLE!
today a guy has way more chances of winning the lottery while on a crashing plane thats beng hit by lightning repeatedly as it falls than finding a woman like that
You literally married a unicorn. 1 in a billion.
I wanted to meet a girl, fall in love, get married and have a family. But years of rejection and inceldom in my 20s started me on the mgtow path long before that name existed.
Im in my early 40s now. Still tall, athletic physique, fit, got all my hair, above average income, own properties, financically secure, well traveled, worldy... and so on.
Still totally invisible to women. Thus, the mgtow route continues.
Dating coaches exist and make a name off transforming people like you. ANYONE can change. Quiet librarian guys, men with disabilities. Your past does not determine future
you're invisible to Am. women, overseas you would be pursued
@@michaelsix9684I’m not American but yes, you’re right. I was invisible there when I visited. North america, Europe, Australia , and east Asia (china, Hong Kong and Japan ) I’m invisible. It’s only south East Asian countries like Thailand where women seem to notice. Unfortunately, they were usually working girls, which I’m not interested in.
Same story but still broke😂
You won my dude. You fucking won.
When I was in my 20s, there was a man at my workplace who was going through a bitter divorce, and he was doing his best to educate the men my age at the office who were all looking at getting married and forming families. He said, "She will never love you the way you love her. You would die for her, do anything to protect her, and she will love her children that way and love what you do for her, but she will never love you as a person the way you love her".
We listened but chalked this up to just bitterness on the part of a man who had failed in his marriage, but looking back from where I am now, I am not sure he wasn't spot on. I am in my 70s now, and I almost laugh at how stupidly naive most of us guys were back then. I am not anti-female or anti-marriage, just sorry that we are at a point in our society that what has worked well for thousands of years, no longer works, and it isn't because the men have changed. My guess is that we are going to go through a lost generation or two with deep drops in population because of the drop in marriages and the number of kids born, before we go back to what worked before or come up with a new normal.
Well said
so he basically poisoned the well of men around him so he could feel better about himself. i avoid people like that.
@Fryulikebacon As I said, we all assumed he was just a bitter man because of what he was going through, so basically we ignored him at the time.
The thing is he’s right. Men and woman love differently and this is what a lot of people don’t understand. Men love idealistically and woman love opportunistically. Woman don’t love you the way you think they do and this is a man greatest downfall. When you understand the differences you can go on with life and build yourself up the right way to keep her in love with you.
@@stephanledford9792 he was a bitter man. because like all entitled men of his generation he felt cheated out of what he was raised to assume would be his by design. i know this because i was raised under that yolk as well. men of my generation were never prepared for the possibility of a time where women would have to depend on men. now that its here they can't handle it, nor can the boys they raised.
I'm reminded of a story my buddy told me. He was a comp sci major in college and a hot sorority girl approached him about being interested and wanted to go out. He heard through the grapevine from a friend in a frat it was part of some shitty sorority initiative to get some guy she'd never actually date to pay a huge dinner bill. She showed up WITH a friend without letting him know in advance, they ordered expensive entrees, several mixed drinks, got completely smashed and racked up a bill close to 200 dollars in the early 2000s. He quietly got the waiter to split the check, paid his portion and left them there jaws drunkenly agape processing what just happened, but what a humiliating experience for him though.
wow. what a terrible way to behave, hope these girls grew up and changed later
@@michaelsix9684 changed?
Lol.
Leopard.....meet spots
Lol so let's compare all women to this one story.
@@michaelsix9684 Bwaahhhahaaahha !!! that's funny
@@vvicente85 well yes lets, I mean its not like every damn man on this thread hasn't run into similar and even worse shitty behavior from women.
This is really good. My wife and I have been happily married for 20+ years, but I certainly understand why so many guys are walking away. And I appreciate it when a woman is willing to consider the reasons for this.
I can't even imagine being on the dating marketing now. It sounds awful! I'm making 6 figures now, but was barely making over $20K when we started dating. She never asked how much I made and I figured she just assumed it wasn't much. We started out in a small apartment, then spent 13 years in a dirt cheap house. We're obviously doing better now. But I wouldn't trade those early days for anything.
Much like my story, now married 32 years and we both had nothing to begin with except love and respect for each other.
I look at the modern dating world and am grateful that I dodged a bullet. Men are so much better off being alone and having no pressure.
I took a business law class some years ago and I remember the instructor, who was also a lawyer, say that first and foremost a marriage license is a business contract. You are, in essence, entering into a business agreement with someone. Now that may be to raise children and all the activities involved with that. But funny how a marriage contract is one business contract where one party, the female, is rewarded for 'cashing out'...
Well, you see, in the past, the patriarchy put hard customs on the husband supporting the wife, even as the wife was required to follow her husband. The wife's duties have fallen by the wayside, the husband's duties remain.
Take heart, the practice of "letter of recommendation" when changing jobs fell by the wayside in the 1980s. It only last 600 years, first as a requirement, then as custom.
(1388) The Statute of Richard II restricts laborers to their hundred and makes it compulsory for them to follow the same trade as their father after the age of twelve. ... And here is the historical origin of the important custom of exacting recommendations: servants leaving employment are required to carry a testimonial, and none are to receive servants without such letter - the original of the blacklist.
A marriage is a contract that has terms revealed in case of a divorce. You expect the spouse will want to enforce the revealed contract terms. Your state may benefit from the contract as well.
Funny how it is that MEN brought this on themselves...these laws are no "accident"; they came about because of men abandoning their families en masse in the 70s and early 80s, in order to go sample some of that 'sexual liberation"; the government were SWAMPED with families left with no support once "daddy" took off with some bimbo...so governments enacted HARSH support laws to ensure MEN lived up to their familial responsibilities. So you lot have only YOURSELVES to blame...Terrible thing to have to TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY, eh?
Yes the law has reduced marriage to a contract as humans usually corrupt any institution given the time. There still remains a slim chance to find someone willing to bring more of true union, the kind God intended. That of course requires both the man and the woman to have the capacity to give that kind of union to each other until death. A rare breed indeed.
The real problem here is only one side of the contract can be enforced! It is almost impossible to enforce monogamy because cheating is socially acceptable. The marriage contract has many provions for both sides, but the only part that can be enforced is monetary, which 99% of the time is all about men paying women.....
Interesting. I am a 71 year old man who has been married to the same lady for decades. As hard as it may be for women, my journey before meeting, dating, and marrying my lady was anything but smooth. As a note on first dates, we had our first date in a bookstore. Common interests, intelligent conversation, intersecting hobbies, the works. My studies of history DO NOT support the feminist models. We help each other and work together, and always have. We took the vows seriously. Unfortunately, that is so rare today as to be almost invisible. My parents stayed together for 70 years and ended up dying within a few months of each other. When my Mom was in a care facility, my Dad was there every day. He never gave up. That was the example I lived by.
I'm Gen X, your generation's kid. Your generation with it's s3xual revolution and rewriting of history to create The Patriarchy™️ set future generations up for failure.
Myself and other men are trying to undo the damage, but I wish your generation would help us rather than just saying you are sorry...and take responsibility for your screw up.
I have been married 47 years to the same woman. After all the ups and downs I would still marry her all over again. I am glad to see I am not alone, but you are right that today it is very rare.
There is no Patriarchy!
Even a prenup can get overturn .It happens all the time.
Yes. No guarantees.
However, if you want to get married and have children, you can improve the chances of a prenup being upheld. My understanding is that one of the requirements for a prenuptial to be upheld is that you have to tell a woman well before the wedding. I would state the requirement as soon as possible. Another requirement is that she has to have her own lawyer. Check the laws in your state. If she says that you wouldn't ask for one if you loved her, tell her that she wouldn't refuse to sign one if she loved you.
@@michaelcavalier8750the real numbers for a prenup is only upheld only 1% of 100% in the twentieth century there would be no reason to be married or have children.
@@michaelcavalier8750 you are right and both you and he should have a separate lawyer, that helps. but still not guaranteed.
Weird. They’re all being signed “under emotional duress” somehow. Hmmm 😂
@@nope3015 That's what lawyers tell women to say to over turn the prenup . You're so right
I'm 69. Never married. In my earlier life, I watched several of my friends have their lives and finances destroyed in divorce settlements. The system is rigged against men. That is beyond dispute.
So many women believe his money is couples money and her money is her money. Why would I mingle my assets under this scenario with a woman.
Yes, the best way is to be single & get loads of casual action I wish I knew how to get it.
@@davidz3879 Be extremely blunt about what you want(NSA sex) and never let them know where you live. It's hit or miss but it hits often enough.
@@evozero905 It misses 100% of the time I've tried that. They either reject me entirely or say that I need to wine & dine them at expensive restaurants, shower then with expensive gifts, commit to them, be interrogated by their friends & family etc.
@@davidz3879 I have experienced the same thing. For better or worse, I'm older now, so diminished testosterone and experience has taken the edge off the hurt.
@@davidz3879 I've had pretty decent success just starting a conversation out in public and making the intent know usually with in 15-30 mins of meeting. If you get shot down politely end the conversation and move on. Something about the boldness works on some of them.
A majority of my peers during my career were women so I got over 30 years worth of listening to women's conversation. Wow. Soooo different than what men talk about. One of the things I heard over and over was some paraphrase of "I am NOT cooking or cleaning the house." They would brag about how they do not cook and tell their husbands that if they want to eat either fix it yourself or go get something. I was shocked the first time I heard this type of banter. Then I heard again and again. When one started with something like; "my husband actually asked me what was for dinner" and then she tells all the listening ears how she put him in his place and that he will never ask me that again, ya da, ya da, ya da.
I came from a family where my mom (who had a college education) stayed home to raise her four children. My grandmother lived close by and she was a homemaker and I loved them both dearly and respected the job they did. What a benefit to have a mom there to raise you as an infant and waiting for you when you came thru the door after school (most of the time with some cookies or some such treat). Mothers that are home makers have more effect on the next generation than anyone.
I thought I found a woman who wanted to raise our children but when the time came.....not so much. I saw my infant sons and daughters carted off to this person and that person during the day so she could work. It literally broke my heart especially since I was the primary bread winner and her check essentially went for daycare! I was heartache I don't think I will ever really get over. I didn't want my children raised by other people but there were for a large portion of their young lives.
@johnstrein3925 I worked at a place with a shared lunch room and heard all sorts of that kind of talk from the women. It’s as if they were trying to out do each other when it came to doing absolutely nothing at home and making themselves difficult to get along with for their husbands.
If a woman spends 2 hours tidying up the house, cleaning a bathroom, doing a couple loads of laundry, she will make it sound like she performed some sort of heroic marathon; and her husband did absolutely NOTHING to help her!! If during that same period of time the husband was out cutting the grass, weeding the lawn and garden beds, and organized the outdoor shed, his wife will literally believe that he did absolutely nothing to “help her”.
Men are 100% expected to wash, maintain, and repair the family vehicles. Men are expected to do the vast majority or yard work and landscaping around the home. Men are expected to maintain and repair anything within the home from doing drywall repairs, appliance repairs, fixing clogged drains and toilets, repair or replace faucets, etc. Men are expected to shovel snow, replace worn out shingles or damaged siding, and basically do anything and everything heavy, dirty, or complicated in or around the house. Men DO NOT complain to their wives or anyone else that their wife doesn’t help with any of these chores, they just do them. When it comes to the light cleaning and tasks within the house like dusting, dishes, laundry, etc. women expect men to help with these tasks; even though several of them are done by machine. I have literally heard women claim that they did laundry for 8 hours in a single day!! lol what they actually did was put 4 loads of clothes into one machine from the other, fold the clothes, then put them away. The fact is that the machines did most of the work and her total time spent actively doing something was more like one hour. They also leave out that they watched 4 movies while slaving away at that laundry!! Haha!!
You hit pretty much the nail on the head, at least in my experiences. Thanks for writing that. @@jaymiller6009
@@jaymiller6009 My ex girlfriend didn't cook, but a neighbor girl did.
@jaymiller6009 this is all true. I do a lot of service calls and even women who are privileged enough not to work for a living because the husband makes good income the wife just hires help for everything and many gain weight to the point of obesity even though they have all day to exercise and the opportunity to eat healthy but they don't.
Overall the wives seem ungrateful and it's like the more the husband does to appease his wife the more the wife becomes ungrateful and just wants more because what she has isn't enough. The husband's are absolutely miserable even if they're making money.
Sarah keeps spitting the fire. She's 1000% correct. And in the end about masculine and feminine lose out because it's really nice to have a great relationship. It does make life better
So sad. Women and feminists literally wrecked the entire planet / human population
15 years of marriage, every day was a struggle to not kill my self. Gave it all, and she just complained. Ill never do it again.
Only on TV.
@@donaldvermillion1253I hope you are feeling happy these days.
@@michaeldale6560 much better now days.
Hi Dawn - what you said about teamwork and building a life together - that resonates SO much with me. My wife and I met when I had some problems in my career. Things were not going well. But she believed in me and we worked together to solve our problems. We had some pretty serious conversations back then on what we needed to do. Thirty four years later, two amazing boys who have started their own careers, and looking forward to a comfortable (but not wealthy) retirement I'd say things kind of worked out. It takes two to be ready to roll up their sleeves and work through the curves that life throws your way.
I remember in school 30 years ago, one of the first things our parents taught us here in Norway was that paychecks were something we don't discuss. It was rude to discuss parent's paychecks, and we should be thankful that our parents are doing everything they could to give us a good life. My grandpa always put emphasis on "meeting each other in the middle" when it comes to relationships. There is no room for "my way or the high way". Personally, I think a lot of today's women are just spitting out demands without truly understanding what they are asking for.
Of course that is the case. You see it so many times on YT channels where they get the percentages out and even average nothing special to look at women are demanding that a man be six foot tall, earn a six figure salary, and have a six pack. Add all of that together and they aren't even looking for the top 5%. That is too "relaxed" of standards for these women now. They are looking for the top 1%.
As an American I have a conspiracy theory that foreign entities are trying to tear this country apart from the inside in many ways with one of them being getting men and women to hate each other. It destroys everything to break up a family. My ex has turned into the absolute most horrible person in coparenting. I’m under the impression the in Norway men and women treat each other more as equals than in America, but has that changed?
@@holdover8199 feminism and communism were invented to wage war against the gentiles.
By Foreign entities, I think he means aliens from another planet. It's a slow methodical alien invasion if you think about it.
@@holdover8199 That theory has been proven. It's a global thing. The world economic forum openly admits that they want to reduce population. Look at agenda 2030, and the former agenda 2021. You have to be actively ignoring what is taking place not to see it. If you want to see the source of corruption, look at who is benefiting. Women are not benefiting from feminism. It takes women out of a family setting at a time when they are most fertile to train them to sit in a cold cubical as corporate property, and debt slaves who pay taxes. Now we have twice as many people in the work force competing for the same jobs, thereby bidding down wages. Corporations benefit from cheap labor. Eliminating the strong family unit means less generational wealth, (a power grab). It's all by design, and has been heavily propagandized, (for anyone paying attention). They keep us divided so we don't see who the real enemy is. There is no accountability at the top of the power structure. People at the bottom get blamed for everything, and suffer the consequences.
I am 64 years old and have been disabled for 25 years. My disability is basically invisible. I divorced 14 years ago.
I stopped dating 8 years ago after two relationships that were bad choices for me and I realized that I was just filling the loneliness in my life and my fear of the day that I would no longer be able to care for myself.
I'm okay now being alone and have been able to save money even on disability. My life is quiet and without any major stressers.
My only regret is that I rarely, if ever, hear from my 2 adult children. Last heard from my son 7 years ago and last saw my daughter a year before covid. There's seems to be nothing I can do to change that.
You play the hand life deals you. Women have zero interest in someone with health issues and I have accepted that for what it is.
May peace touch your soul.
same situation, we're dead men walking....it's best to just seek peace....
Visit a country overseas. Even if you go once a year it will be worth it. Thailand or the Philippines. Even with disability you will be fine as long as you can get around.
Yes, but we all die alone. Never trust anyone that tells you different.
I tell this story lots. On our first official date I took my, now, wife to one of my favorite pubs. I forgot it was a home Kentucky basketball game night so the wait was two hours. (Not a sports fan so I didn’t think about it)
Decided to go a mile down to try one of my favorite soup/sandwich places. Only open until 4pm. I only ate there during work lunches so I never noticed they closed early. *flop sweat intensifies*
I asked her if it’d be ok if we went to a local chain steakhouse down the street. She looked at me and said “sure we can try that, and if that doesn’t work, there’s an Arby’s next door that I’d be happy to with with you to”
I should have known that was a sign she wasn’t in it for money etc and was just a good all American girl.
11 years later and still couldn’t tell you any fights we’ve had. I asked her and she couldn’t think of one either. Life isn’t easy but we get through it together.
Gentlemen, find yourself a girl who’s willing to get a roast beef and cheese sandwich on a first date. You’ll be together forever :)
11 years ago? Yeah that was when dating was still fun because nowadays is a very different game and people are getting fed up
"Norm, ya got Arby's all over me!"
*Never had a fight or argument?* That's borderline abnormal!
@@joeskeptical4762 that’s why we both had to think about it because I hear about all the marital spats that go on and we both can’t think of one. Maybe I should go try to start one so I can be “normal” like everyone else lol
Time to buy a really expensive ski boat using high interest credit without consulting my other half *rubs hands together* ;)
you did well, your wife is an asset to your life, great job, wish u both the best
I found MGTOW seven years ago and ever since I embraced it, my life has gotten so much better. I’m never going back to the dating scene again.
Homemaker!!! The most valuable person in our universe!!! Not Stay-at-home-Mom, not doesn't "work", BUT A HOMEMAKER!!!! Thank you for that Sarah!
Sue Ann Nivens, The Happy Homemaker!
Just because you're not getting a paycheck from an employer doesn't mean you're not "working." It's ridiculous that so many people even need to be told this.
Actually this os the main pillar of society.
I am a woman 100% agree with this video. I know women who have acted like this. I am personally so frustrated with other women. Marriage is a team. You don't go in to a relationship think about how much they are making or trying to change someone (which I have seen women do) You go in it for love. A wife supports her husband, encourages him to follow his dreams, gives him input, and raises him up. Men I really do sympathies. I say don't go in to a relationship until you get a woman you deserve and nothing less ❤
100% agree! I am a helpmate in a marriage. I am my husband’s counterpart, to work alongside him in all things.
I’m a California surfer with a bad back(injured doing construction) and little income. Any chance of a date?
@@BongoX2x2 I am flattered but I'm married. I do hope you find a woman that deserves you. ❤
@@TexasSweetheart123 I’m married too but recently singled and was curious what kind of replies I would see. Happy marriage to you!
@@BongoX2x2 Thank you! 🙂
The presumption of a shared effort no longer in fashion. Women now prefer to jump ship at the first sign of white water. Men hung in there out of a sense of loyalty and commitment to the family for decades. The rules have changed.
Now it is all about hypergamy + no fault divorces as the woman's excuse to monkey branch her way up the social tree while financially raping all of the men along the way.
Usually men are the ones dishing out the bs that's why the women jump ship. Men swear they don't benefit from marraige but look how their mortality rate increases when they are single
One day when I was a teenager and started noticing girls, my father pulled me aside and said “you’ve got to be careful where you stick that thing.”. A bit crude perhaps. but it remains the best piece of advice he ever gave me. And in spite of some of these comments, there are still a lot of good women out there who are worthy of your time and energy.
sure...they met their BF at 15 and are married since 18 and are just gonna cruise along life with him until death.....there are good women yes...just not the single ones
A lot of good women? Have you been in the dating scene lately? You would be lucky to find one in ten thousand. Seriously.
Never been married. No kids.
I made a choice in my late 20's to stop chasing women. I put my head down and worked more and harder. I worked 6 days a week, 12hr shifts. No life outside of work. It really sucked. I only have one friend i hang out with to this day. Now, i own my own house outright. And in the past 5 yrs. I have been to italy, france, maui, and brazil.
And this year i drove across the U.S on my Harley.
It was so fun. I think i made the best decision for my life. I have money, freedom.
id do that but i cant take orders very well when it doesnt make logical sense...so they fire me
Like you I chose to never marry in my early Twenties. Will be 62 later this year, no regrets never marrying or having children. I focused on my Goals & Dreams. Retired early,debt free able to travel. Had ample time to my hobbies and passion. Life throws you some bumps but life has been great. Well done you were ahead of the game!!!
@Iroc_199
"I have money, freedom" and you forget "peace" 🙂
ATB bro
good job on sacrificing and working hard. You earned what you got. Most people just want to get stuff with no effort.
I made the mistake of getting involved with a widowed woman who had three adult children (We were both in our late 40s) at work. We decided to live together at her small house in the hills. It went fine for a while, then she started talking about quitting work to stay at home to pursue her hobbies, while I kept working and getting on to my health insurance policies. Soon, she stopped cooking meals, because she was either too tired or hated cooking altogether and when I asked her to sew on a couple of buttons, she acted like I was sending her to a work shop. I finally gave up and left.
Sounds like menopause.
no, It wounds like modern, entitled women@@christersmith5470
I'm a 72 year old WM.When I was 13 my mother told me,"never trust a woman"and "never get married".She also told me to "never knock up a chick because you'll regret it the rest of your life"I held true to what my mother told me.
You're mums just self hating and bitter. She's projecting her inadequacies onto all women. She knows she is rubbish so the rest of us must be.
That’s pretty sad.
You’ll never find what you aren’t looking for.
Given you always “knew” there aren’t any good women then there aren’t….for you. There are tons of great women out there.
Your mom is very wise.
@@dennisalbrecht6438 if she was wise she'd fix herself instead of passing off her inadequacies onto all other women
My then-80 year old grandmother said the same thing to me in the early 1970s when I became of age. And she was from a generation where a woman was expected to be married by 20-22 and have two babies or more by age 25. I took her advice and am totally free ever since.
My wife of 28 years left our marriage ten years ago. Our kids were adults. She left for a man 10 yrs younger than her and 16 yrs younger than me. I wound up paying about $100k and her legal fees. I paid for her license in real estate. Eventually, she made twice the amount I made, yet, the court wouldn't modify my support to her. It took her hiding assets in discovery that got her to agree to stopping the support. Because in our state if assets are hidden and the other party finds out? The person who found out gets triple what is hidden. She found her boy toy via Facebook. She's now onto guy number 4. Sadly, she now has some serious health issues. So, I am praying for her. But I refuse to entertain kumbaya moments during the holidays. Sorry still bitter.
I live in Canada. Even if I don't get married, my government will still consider me married if I live with a woman for a couple years. Negotiating my own relationship under that circumstance is next to impossible!
Facts bro Canadian laws r hard. If your military its 6 months then your common law. So its definitely tough here too.
Governments keep making it harder for men to justify getting involved with women. Canadian women better get comfortable with the idea of LTA (Living Together Apart) relationships.
Same in Australia
Actually there was a horrific case from Canada where the courts said that a man and a woman who hung out but never had kids and never had the same address but did on occasion spend a holiday or weekend together were husband and wife for legal reasons thus she got divorce payout from the marriage that never was. The only truly safe method now is not getting involved at all.
Then don't live with her. Case closed. Self control.
I saw what happened to guys I worked with in my 20s and that was enough to keep me single.
And that was in the 90s.
A smart person learns from their mistakes; a wise person learns from other peoples’ mistakes.
There were lonely times, but lonely beats nightmare.
And I was still free.
And the sad fact is, unless you date with purpose and for a long time, you don’t know what you’re in for until the rings go on.
Then the masks can come off.
Keep chasing based on what’s only skin deep and enjoy the court system.
Finally a straight thinking and rational woman speaking on a critical topic: Marriage, home values, reject/accept ratio, costs, etc. You got a sub from me, and a like!
@user-uu2zo1sb6n but she is trying! And I hope in an honest way
They all address this when they hit the wall. She should have done it at 19
This COULD be a grift though. Probably in her best "self-interest".
@@nemo0036of course they always act in their best interest-just employ her for our interests like a disposable agent
@@kbruff2010 Emphasis on "DISPOSABLE".
Wow. Your comment about the lack of traditional wives still expecting traditional men was spot on. I have an appreciation for people who can see clearly through these very clouded and foggy times, and cut to the chase. You are one of them. New Sub.
You are one of the very few women who can see things from the male perspective.
A man can't provide for a woman unless she can provide for him as well. I own my home. I don't have time to work full time, take care of everything around the house, and cater to a woman's needs.. it's too much. I need help around the house at the very least, just to have time for HER. I would love to be in a relationship but most women seem like selfish children these days, so I stay alone. And I hate every minute of it.. also, the first time I asked a girl to the dance in highschool, she laughed in my face.. humiliating
It can be nervous laughter. Being approached by males is just as daunting as being the one approaching at that age
As an advocate for reform in Canada:
1. The average woman separating has planned it for 2 years
2. Most prenups are trashed because it is assumed women are incapable of understanding the terms without at least the help of half a dozen family law lawyers, trust lawyers, tax accountants/lawyers etc.
Prenups typically benefit male partners.
@@tymanning2832 You implying the women are gold -diggers? Prenuptial go both ways, especially with previous relationship and children, and peoples' parents wealth. A bad generalisztiom, but the courts do handle based on gender -- women gave to much or women did not give enough.
SEXIST FASCISM at work!!!
My wife knew she was leaving the day we married
Just like with now lots of women claiming in a divorce of physical abuse to enhance prizes they also will claim being forced to sign the prenup so the judge can have the excuse to throw it out of court.
It's really not complicated. Why spend a significant amount of our time, energy attention and money to put ourselves in a situation that makes our life more difficult, more expensive, creates more work and takes away from the things that we enjoy doing in life? The best advice for any man is to create a life that you love and if you happen to find a woman who fits into it well along the way, great! If not, you still have a life that you love. It's far better to create a life you love and live alone than wishing you were alone! I speak from experience! 24 years of it.
There is also a segment of men who were automatically excluded from the marriage pool during their eligible bachelor years due to superficial characteristics such as lack of height or good looks, social awkwardness, or still struggling to establish a viable career. But now that we're older, wiser, and successful, we look around at the quality of women who now deign "to give us the time of day" and we realize that all of those women who rejected us in our youth were actually doing us a big favor. So, speaking for myself, thanks ladies for being so condescending and contemptuous of my efforts to gain your attention. Now that I've sailed into a very comfortable retirement, none of you have your claws dug into any of it.
Here is another aspect of this that most people do not discuss. There is no way for woman to turn away from this programming they have received their entire lives and is reinforced by other women. We are beyond the point of no return fellas.
my ex had been turned into a unfaithful b*** who cheats absolutely every occasion she gets after she went to a psychiatrist following her divorce....before that therapy she was a faithful housewife for 10 years
@@kokocaptainqc ALWAYS avoid professional helpers such as shrinks or MD's. No good ever comes from it.
@@Mikexxx531Yeah, let us go back to the 17th and 18th centuries with higher death rates due to accidents and injuries, more unknown diseases and overall lower life expectancies for newborn babies. 😮
A retired friend of ours lost his wife to breast cancer 3 years ago. After a year he started to date. Even older women now ask him about financial status on the first date (pensions, social security, 401K plans, material assets, bank accounts). Anything that they could take in a divorce settlement is what they want to know about. My friend is looking for a rich woman.
I would ask THEM how much they WEIGH!
Lost my wife to cancer almost 3 yrs ago , were married 36 yrs , what I see now I will never marry again . Even a relationship is not interesting nor wanted
Shocking how brazen and mercenary western women are now that they have altered western society to treat them as the poor, defenceless and righteous victims of men.
I was marries for 19 years, miserable, she has a career but still gets half my pension. I now can't retire. If I did still have to work to survive. I will literally work until I die and she,woth her pwn pension, will also get half of mine as well as have her husband to support her. She got 2k a month in childsupport for 2 kids to boot. The system is absolutely screwed up. Dont gett married, dont have kids. It a bad deal for men.
Listen and learn well young men the hard lesson of life this man is paying for you to learn for free.
Unless you find the unicorn
She married again and you're still paying alimony? That's not right. Her next marriage should cancel out the alimony, because her new husband should be supporting her.
@@ralphm6901 he said child support and half of his pension.
@@arnoldjohnson3317 Ok. My point was that once the ex-wife remarries, her new husband takes over supporting her, so her ex-husband should not need to continue doing that.
Wow! I'm really impressed to see an intelligent woman calling other woman out and being a voice for men that are always being controlled and manipulated. Thank you
My ex wife went for everything in the divorce. I was fortunate enough to have family that were willing to “bank roll” my divorce for me to make sure she didn’t. She ended up giving up after it got to be too expensive for her and we settled at 50/50 everything and no CS. She didn’t deserve a dime more after cheating and screwing me so over in every other way.
Bro you were lucky.
You're lucky you don't live in the UK as your ex wife would have got everything!
I’m 70 years old and had a great career with good income. Over the years I’ve found most women are just after money and status. They treat you like a trophy and show you off to their friends. When I ignored a woman at the workplace as she was trying to come on to me she then started all kinds of false allegations. If you are a women with a broken down vehicle I refused to stop and help because a friend did this and the woman did some research on my friend and found out he was well to do she tried to sue him for inappropriate behavior.
Do you date women your age?? It sounds like you are looking for women at work who are under you and probably have some kind of delusions they are into you and women who need financial help so you can feel they will stay with you. If they are after money and status , You mention I have good career and good money how is that relevant here? The moment you look for somebody your age I don’t think that will be mind games or “false allegations” at workplace because a 70 years old woman will be retired and taking care of family and animals, never heard of a 70 years old woman playing mind games that much.
@@karla683 I’ve been retired for a while now. I’ve always had a policy to never date anyone at work or even make compliments to them or talk about them with other coworkers. I would even refuse to go out to lunch with a woman if there wasn’t 2 other people there. I did like to sit back and watch others making fools of themselves though. It usually didn’t end up good for one or the other or both. I married when I retired over 10 years ago. I married someone my age that lost her husband to cancer. She shares the same values as I and we have a great time together. We first met when we were 12. We dated for a summer in high school. I went and saw the world and ended up in Alaska.
@@Chris_at_Home good for you. Work is a place of back stabbing, envy and people doing everything they can to get an advantage on somebody else. People date at work I don’t know how they can. It is always drama. It usually toxic with powerful people want to feel they can do whatever they want because they control peoples career, and some envy people who don’t have work integrity that will boost some powerful people’s ego to have an advantage over somebody else. Sorry for being so blunt usually when men talk about money bluntly is an invitation to abusers to come to their life. A woman who loves you will love you for the jokes you make during a date not for the amount of bragging about a career and power.
In the first date never go to a dinner date. It's a coffee date or drink. She insists on a dinner date or a lunch date just canceled the date and move on.
American women need to be thoroughly vetted before a first date and checked for diseases before having sex.
What if she says you're a cheapskate if you don't take her to an upmarket restaurant?
@@davidz3879keep it moving
@@davidz3879 Find a better woman. If you cannot afford a passport and a trip, you cannot afford to date.
@@davidz3879 She's a gold digger and needs to be told that.
Long ago a friend commented "why get married when you can just buy a house for someone you don't like". Ended up with an Asian lady and was happy.
I have my oldest granddaughter of fifteen years old visiting me this weekend. I think I’ll listen to this again when she can hear it and see if I can get a reaction and a lead in to a conversation. Great Video, this really needs to make it to more women in my opinion.
The Manosphere, MGTOW and all red pill related issues are a outburst of the frustration that (heterosexual) men feel about today’s dating/ marriage and relationships.
Hence why Rich Cooper (Entrepreneur In Cars) the late Kevin Samuels and even the controversial Andrew Tate are proving popular with men.
Have heard of the Pink Pill? Gay couples are getting fed up with marriage too.
My GF is Punjabi. The absolute best woman I have ever met. Feminine, beautiful, can really cook, submits, intelligent, traditional.....
Also Strong Successful Male
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Absolutely one of your best, most compassionate, most realistic, most practical presentations. Thank you.
This has to be one of your best videos that’s most definitely struck a chord with me. I’m 68 and never got married and living through these current years makes me glad that I didn’t. Your talking about traditional women of course reminded me of my mom. She worked full time since she was a teen then got married and still worked full time but there wasn’t a day that she didn’t come home and make dinner. I can’t ever remember her saying she was too tired or her day was hell. And we never ate out except for the rare occasion when there were other people involved. I think women today use having a full time job as an excuse to be lazy and take the easy way. And you know who suffers for it? Not just the husbands but the kids also..
Expecting women to work full time and come home and get dinner ready and call them lazy if they don’t. Tell me, what do you do in a relationship? A man is a provider and protector what are you? You want the woman to provide and protect you?
@@karla683 I have no idea where you are coming from. My point was that from what I see in todays modern woman is she thinks she’s so special because she has a career or some demanding job that she’s not obligated to cook a meal when she comes home from work. And I’m not inferring that a man is exempt from that duty also but in a traditional family which I grew up in the cooking and cleaning duties were primarily the wife’s area of expertise. The traditional family duties have definitely blurred the lines between men and women and there in lies the problem. So excuse me if I’m of the Leave It To Beaver generation.
Man, I knew this stuff back in 93. I saw my friends having kids. After two, three years later the trouble starts. Two years later then the divorce starts.
I was in the darkest time of my life during middle school, full on nihilistic self-hatred. Ot was during this time that I myself was publicly shamed for confessing to someone, during lunch, who I thought was my friend. Our middle school had the entire school take lunch at the same time.
I will tell you this: I have never forgotten that feeling, and I don't know how deeply it has effected me, but it's VERY deep.
I'm sorry, man. People can be so cruel during those early years. I went through bullying and exclusion myself, and although I've overcome a lot since then, those memories and feelings still come back now and then. Don't define yourself by other people's retarded views or behavior. Be kind to yourself.
Well said!@@Arven8
Yep! Why? Why put up with it. Wanted kids and have my two. Love being father, coach and role model and both daughters turned out well and traditional. First wife, had affair, left and now waiting for my last daughter to turn 19 and then parole from second. Not worth it anymore! Here is your half, now go away. Peace. No more selfishness, self rightousness or this entitlement BS to put up with. Both my daughters are disgusted by their mothers' behavior. There is hope.
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A close friend told me that his friend Patrick was married for 28 years and decided to moved next state over for a job. Well wife wanted to travel to visit family and girlfriends but didn't mention one of his friends. So he now is divorce and lost a friend. I tell my female friends and they say always there is two sides of this story.
You're absolutely right about all the points that you make. The problem is that women are not watching your program. They're watching programs by other women who are telling them to screw men over. Telling them that they're amazing and they all deserve the best, and that they should squeeze everything they can out of every guy they meet. You're making videos for guys. We already know and agree with everything you're saying. Nothing is going to change. In fact I think it's going to get worse.
Love your content. Most women only care how much money a guy can give them. I've been divorced for a few years and I couldn't be happier I don't have my ex wife nit picking every little thing
As a single dad I do both the traditional man and woman roles. I work, cook, sew, do the house and yard and the washing. I used to do all this when I was single and lived on my own and even when I was younger before I moved out.
Single women without kids aren’t interested in single dads they want to go out all the time and don’t get why I would rather be at home or cook a fancy meal. Single mothers aren’t much better they expect you to take on a father role for their kids and provide for her and them but don’t want anything to do with your kids or want to pay anything for them.
Add into the equation that I’m 5’10 don’t have a six pack and don’t earn 6 figures and you are not an option for modern women.
I have been single for a few years and I am happy with life. I have friends and family for company work and kids activities for more socialising.
Literally all that I don’t have is a warm body to share my bed with.
I am sure you are a good man mate. These women don't deserve you!
Been there Bro. Three kids. Was so worth it.
I have seen a lot of videos talking about how bad marriage is for men. And I have been wondering why none of them ever mention a prenup? You are the first person I have heard mention that. You are also the first person to come straight out and say marriage is something strictly for women. I hadn’t thought of it that way yet. So you’ve really given me something to think about. Thank you.
Prenups can easily be thrown out, all a woman has to do is make some false allegation (without any evidence) and the prenup is invalid.
Most women refuse to sign anyway
I......I just want to give you a giant thank you hug! You know, for being understanding and having empathy.
Sarah, I appreciate your empathy. I have fantastic woman friends who are like family too me. Dating a woman in our current culture, however is something I haven't done for well over 5 years. It's not safe to be that vulnerable with a woman anymore. I'm incredibly sad and frustrated by that. Loneliness is incredibly harsh the older one gets. My former self, out in public would make eye contact, say hello, make small talk with women. Now? Forget it. It hurts.
15 years ago when I was single I dated a lot. It was like groundhog day. I heard myself saying basically the same thing on all the dates. I even think took most of the women to the same restaurant. The dates mostly ended up with sex. It costed a lot of money but the women were all very nice. I dont miss dating much. It is really nice to be with the same woman.
Did you ever have any sex having not bought them en expensive meal first?
That was some serious red pill. Most of our grandpas and great grandpas got a much better deal. I'm so happy to have found my unicorn. She, her mom, and her grandmother are all amazing. Her grandfather proposed to his lady at around the 3 week mark. They celebrated their 60th this year. He didn't get a turn, he got a woman and a fine one at that. I have the greatest empathy for these and other women who don't behave anything like the modern majority.
Yes, I behave nothing like these modern women but, unfortunately most men put us into the same category.
@@nate2759 It's easy to do when you've been badly burned a few times. Wisdom brings the understanding that every person must be taken individually. Those who don't figure this out miss out.
@@randyduncan795 Yes, I have been burned by both men and women. There is bad apples everywhere but, there is also some good apples. If you think every apple is bad then you will never find the good.
Lol. Alt right males are always hilarious.
Absolutely wonderful video. I loved how you finished by talking about empathy. It is the number one trait that men should be looking for to protect themselves against false harassment allegations, poor contraceptive options and fears about conception by deception, and being dragged through the family court system. If there are any signs of entitlement and narcissism, run in the opposite direction immediately.
Isn't the reason why govt gets involved in divorce is because its looked at as a business contract to some degree? The disconnect is that divorce doesn't go to civil court but rather family court which doesn't have to play by the rules. Judge gets to make stuff up. No jury. Everything is "for the kids" but the kids are never actually considered in any decision making.
The courts get a cut of the child support... It's literally the judge's retirement
the govenrment gets money
@@pootypump7440 yes, it's painfully obvious to you & me. I believe 98% of Men are blue-pilled & would jump if a rando woman told him to.
Even though the state isn't out any money,cause the fathers pay child support. The federal government pays the state 2/3rd of the money that is paid out in child support. Now you know why the state tries to get so many men to pay child support.
Coffee is the perfect first date, regardless of income. It's perfect for chatting, getting to know more about someone in a casual setting, in a nice public place. It can give both parties a bit of an option to end the date early or linger longer or, if both are amenable, go on for some lunch. Starting out of the box with anyone, not just men, paying for a $400 dinner for two, is ridiculous.
This is, of course, if you're a man still even open to dating.
The perfect first date is a woman preparing a meal to show her skills. I like the coffee thing as a first meeting in person, but is it really a date? That's debatable.
@@qua7771 Not debatable. A date is meeting to engage in conversation/activity. People can meet for a date on a park bench to chat and feed the pigeons, if that's what they want for a date.
Why a meal? It seems a bit Neaderthal-ish to expect a woman to prepare a meal, at her home, as some sort of test. I'm a man and find that very odd. Is that what your significant other did?
@@walkingstick6655 I had an ex that didn't cook, but a neighbor girl that did. It showed that she cared, and had skills. I don't do the on-line dating thing. The women I know I met in daily life, so we have already had idle conversation. To me a date is the next level, when your actually engaging in some level of intimacy. Not a brief meet, and greet of two people who never met before. I'm definitely against providing expensive diners to gold diggers who ask how much you earn. It's about what a woman contributes to a relationship in this day and age. Modern women are useless.
@@qua7771 I tried on-line dating about 10 years ago and found it depressing. I no longer date, for a variety of reasons. Most people would consider meeting for coffee a date, not a dinner date, but a date. I'd much rather the first date be coffee. If it goes well, then a lunch date. If that goes well, then a dinner date. There's zero rationale for jumping straight to the first date being an expensive meal. And, most women, even "old fashioned", "traditional" women are going to rightfully be wary of having you in their home and cooking for you on any first date. I would actually say that you should beware of any woman who would do that. There's definitely a calculating agenda if she offers to do that, which is the only way I could imagine it even happening, because no man should be suggesting this. If he did and she agreed, you're both a bit suspect and deserve whatever trainwreck is created.
@@walkingstick6655 I don't date women I don't know. There is a good reason for that.
I'll keep this simple. I'm 54 years old and STILL dealing with BS from my divorce 23 years ago. I'm not sure that I'll ever recover even if the BS stopped today. Marriage isn't a problem. It's the "legal" management of divorce.
It can be a lonely road being a Man.
Thank you for understanding us and supporting us.
In the 23 years of marriage we pass the cooking back and forth. When I was home with the kids, I cooked and cleaned. When I returned to teaching, he'd take the cooking and I would do the cleanup. Tonight I cleaned and I cooked, he said thanks, and now we're chill. The only thing he needed to have was a sense of humor that matched mine. That way when I clean in the kitchen and make the spatulas have a war in the soap bubbles he just giggles.
I think couples who are doing well don't announce diddly squat. Why? Because they are busy living their lives. I'm watching these because a young teen girl is sitting behind me and pretends not to listen. :)
I'm glad I read this comment. I'm the male equalizer for it. The kitchen is mine, and the garage. The wife and I split the rest, save the laundry, that's hers. But I will do that when asked/ needed. We've been married 22 years, together 27. We have 1 surviving daughter, almost 12, amd I watch videos like this for her as well. She needs to know both how to treat someone, and be treated by someone.
People like us just live our lives.
There are women in their 30s who stream on twitch who have admitted to not only having never cooked a meal for themselves but also never having boiled water. Just think about that. Mid 30s and have not done a basic life task.
Haven't boilled water😂
They don't owe you anything. There are men like my brother who are 30 and have never had a job. We don't anyone anything in this world. Why do before want every women to bend to society knowing fully well their own sex dont
@@Kim-ok5tn i never said anybody owes me anything. what fantasy are you responding to?
@@Kim-ok5tn triggered
@@AndrewTheFrank she's projecting
Wow! So true. Looking back after 20years with my wife. She forged me into the man j am. She noted my potential and made who I am. That's a woman in my eye's.
This was excellent. Thank you for making this video. I'll just speak for myself, not all men. I do feel this way, and having our emotions validated is a refreshing change from the shaming language that we're so used to experiencing.
I find it very satisfying that there are hundreds, thousands, of videos saying the exact same thing I was saying back in the 90's.
Back then I was laughed at, now I feel more like a prophet.
I wonder how many men and women back then that laughed at me are now remembering those discussions.
I grew up with 2 older sisters, 8 and 10 years older. I listen to them and my mom and her friends hate on and making fun of men so the time, and there i was a little kid taking it all in, essentially, how terrible and stupid I was. I listen to my sisters talk about making fun of guys that approached them. I never approached a woman because of fear of humiliation, I only waited for women to approach me, even on dating apps, which weren't a thing until my 30s.
Have you ever told them about this
I had the same experience growing up with 3 sisters, 2 older and 1 younger. Always heard em talking s!#+ about men. No surprise that I never wanted to get married.
@@msakiblab
What for? To have them tell him he was just insecure and should suck it up?
Even if they apologized. It doesn't change anything anymore.
@@msakiblab no, I rarely speak to them. I've done a lot of therapy and now have a kind loving wife, she approached me, and 2 kids that I won't let be exposed to them. That's why I don't interact with them anymore.
Sad, they obviously did not reflect on the fact you were a boy that would grow up to be a man.
Told an acquaintance that I liked her and wanted to date. She said she wanted me to write it to her.
I didn't understand why, but I foolishly did.
The next time I saw her she was with a group of our acquaintances, letter in hand, laughing with them about what I'd written. I was so embarrassed at how absolutely stupid I was.
Looking back on it I still cringe, but in reality, it was the best day of my life. I ended up with a great gal and that once pretty girl is a half-dead, drug-addicted hag whose best years were in high school.
I just wish I hadn't gone through that to find out what so many people are capable of.
Look on the bright side...if you had done this at work with a co-worker, that letter would have been presented to you by an HR professional as they fire you for harassment. At least you figured out how cruel they can be when they didn't have any other power to affect your life. Still sucks, but better to learn early and cheaply.
Typical simp. Sry man but you can’t be doing that. Women are very manipulative. Sure you might find a few who are not but really that’s rare. Good luck sir.
Imagine now days where everything is electronically logged somewhere & most communication is over the phone or internet. Everyone who uses it is taking a huge risk when it comes to humiliation, blackmail or incrimination.
Just stumbled upon your page. You're on fire in this video. I feel very validated! Thank you for your comments!
This pretty much described everything
Dating isn't worth the risk, I'm saving myself a fuck ton of money and mental stability by not dating
It's kinda ironic tho, but if I'd go and walk up to girls to get a date and get a penny for everytime I won't be attractive to them, I'd soon enough actually become attractive for them
Now I must say I don't necessarily want a traditional woman, but housework and making money should be balanced out between the 2 in a couple, whether that's 1 sole breadwinner and a housewife/houseman or both working and doing the chores together
Done right, dating is not a huge risk. The risk comes with the commitment. Whether you start sleeping together, start cohabitating, or spend more money than the value of the commitment, then the risk comes. No harm in taking a girl out to mini-golf and ice cream. If she thinks she deserves an expensive meal or drinks on a date just because she is a woman, she can pound sand.
"if I'd go and walk up to girls to get a date and get a penny for everytime I won't be attractive to them, I'd soon enough actually become attractive for them"
LMAO, this might actually work.
I outsource housework. As a business owner and a widowed mother, I don't have time for it. I'm happy to pay money to have more time with my son.
@@rokzane that's more than fair
All I'm saying is that in a household housework and providing income should always be devided equally between 2 spouses
Look at it this way, the money you save could go to your hobbies or mortgage payment.
Sarah you're a true treasure to the emotional well being of men, I only wish the message could have started 30 years ago, I'd have maybe avoided the horrible divorce and years of depression. Please keep being a hero!
For me personally I am just fucking tired. After my divorce I suffered so much emotionally. Growing up as a boy I was often told that if I did good that good things would come back. But as I grew I tried to be a good guy. I always treated women respectfully as best as I could and I always took my relationships rather seriously with the hope of achieving marriage. I loved, cared, and honored women as best as I could. I worked hard in my church and community.
Looking back now. I don't think I ever had good things comeback. My ex-wife cheated on me, and made rape accusations against me so that she can have an advantage in court. She now has full custody of my daughter and I have no parental rights to her because of that. As far as the system is concerned, I was guilty until proven innocent. It left me broken for a very long time.
In my time post divorce as I am recovering from suicidal thoughts. The only things I see is so many women just hating men and justifying bad behaviors towards men because apparently we are all just "evil, oppressive, disgusting pigs". Like I grew up trying to do good, but all I got back was suffering and pain. Society is telling me "fuck you", women are telling me "fuck you", and yet I am also being told "be a provider, protector, and leader. Be a good guy." Why? Why should I? Why should I be all these things when nothing good comes of it? Why should I invest in all of that effort if all that comes back is pain and suffer for me?
So I've come to the conclusion that I'm just not gonna participate. I'm just gonna do what I want and I'm just gonna say ,"fuck it". I plan to get a home and get a dog. Because dogs don't ask for anything unreasonable and will love me if I pour love into them. Society and women haven't done that for me. This is a very hard decision I made because for me it was like choosing two poisons. Live alone with a dog or try to continue to do good in society that feels like it literally hates me. My ideal choice would be to find wife and have a family that reciprocates that love I pour in. It's just sad that a dog can do that better than a human being. This is why I'm going my own way.
Best wishes to you bro. Everything you said is true. You’re on the right track. Your life is the same is mine. I’m just here to live in defiance and to deny them. My sole purpose in life is not to be a financial stepping stone for women.
Thats great you learned not to make obtaining a woman your sole goal in life. I wish more people were like that.
You did the right things for yourself during your upbringing. Don't lose those ideals or you will be disappointed in yourself. Now that would be a personal calamity.
However, don't trust women too much. Most of them have no principles or morality. I have learnt that the most beautiful ones mostly have none of the above qualities.
One of my favorite sayings are "nice guys finish last" & "no good deed goes unpunished" and both are 100% true. I too thought like you did. I was raised by my grandparents. Dad was a POS who beat my mom while preggo with me. only met em a few times as they were not together by the time i could remember anything. mom ended up meeting my stepdad and were together since 1996 when i was just 3 years old. Step dad was an alcoholic POS, him & mom always fighted. I hated him & was glad his ass died in 2018. anyhow I was always told to respect women and all the crap about women being "special" and shit, never hit a woman, never disrespect a woman. Hold the doors open, blah blah blah. I actually believed all that shit and took my relationships seriously, never cheated or showed other girls attention when i was dating a girl or even when we were talking & showing interest in 1 another. I actually thought that I would have a story like my grandparents relationship story. I'd find a girl, we would fall inlove with each other being each others first and only love & we would get married and be together till we have kids and grandkids.
That is till about my 3rd romantic relationship ended in 2017, yet again to discovering the girl i thought i loved at the time was cheating on me. I had 3 serious relationships up till that point and they all cheated on me.
Im just glad i didnt have any kids with any of them because things would be so much worse for me now. I will say that I am disgusted with women. Females these days are cum bucket trash. I have such a majorly drastic view of women than I was raised to believe.
Pickup trucks are good too
I disagree with ONE thing you said. You talked about yourself as something other than a 10, but the more you talk the more I think we need a level above 10 for you. 100% appreciate your empathy. I'm too old and it's too late for me, but it does my heart good to hear a woman talking this way. Thank you.
About 80% of divorce is filed women, 50% of marriage ends in divorce, what guy wants to play the game with those odds? Like what JOSHUA in War Games said " Strange game, the only winning move is not to play ".
What’s interesting is that I considered my marriage a business agreement! There was money involved, a product (children), and activities were to be mutually beneficial. I lost my wonderful husband 13 years ago. I still believe that marriage is a business contract with a logical view of how to conduct one’s self within the contract.
Ridiculous.
Do you do hourly rates too?
Thank you for this, thank you for validation. Maybe it a generational thing, at 62 with a lifetime of being the nice guy who wanted a life partner to share my time with. My opinion of women today is its okay to walk on by me .keep walking. Go home to your cat and water your plants. Call your BFF and cry about your life. I have my spot on the shoreline. I have my peace. Thank you for reading this
All of this heaped upon the issues I come with ........... Ha !
Absolutely zero chance of success in the mating game.
I don't even think about it.
A stillborn idea for me.
Good luck ladies & gents ! Im going my own way.