Creating New Human Senses | David Eagleman | Talks at Google
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2018
- As the creator of stacks of compelling research, books and now the 6-part PBS series The Brain, grey matter expert David Eagleman is our most visible evangelist for neuroscience. He has helmed ground-breaking studies on time perception, brain plasticity and neurolaw. His latest research explores technology that bypasses sensory impairment.
Humans can perceive less than a ten-trillionth of all light waves. "Our experience of reality," says neuroscientist David Eagleman, "is constrained by our biology." He wants to change that. His research into our brain processes has led him to create new interfaces -- such as a smartphone-controlled vest that translates sound into patterns of vibration for the deaf -- to take in previously unseen information about the world around us.
Why don’t more people know about this?! This is amazing!
I know right!
i knew.
he also did a ted talk that got a lot more views
What lead me to Dr. David Eagleman. I was watching a Netflix documentary on Inside Bill's brain and happened to notice a book on his desk titled the brain and this is where my fascination with his work started. I am amazed at the level of work currently going on and the complete lack of media coverage or ignorance around it.
It doesnt directly affect people. Thats why _nearly_ no one cares
Wonderful creation. Wish this was available 25 yrs ago when I was working with a deaf technician in a busy manufacturing environment. Thanks for sharing!
I would like to see this for language translation. Becoming fluent in the tactile vibrations of you're language could allow for real time conversation with anyone
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Stumbled across this recently. A DJ using the electrode they use to control their prosthetic arm and making a circuit to adapt it to controlling synthesizers. It makes me look forward to where we might go.
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I absolutely love the idea of giving humans new senses. I mean let's take our senses we have now.. Just imagine how hard it would be living without them. Or how great it would be adding more
You know, I hadn't thought about that. What would it be to live my day to day without senses? How would I make my daily bowl of cereal? Or drive to the office? Now take that same scenario and imagine I have one additional sense we'll call "swove". How would I swove cereal as I put it near my swove detectors? How would my driving be improved (or worsened for that matter!) by the sudden influx of swove information?
Thanks for the insight and have a great day
36:00 I have tactile sensory processing disorder and I would really like to try the vest. My responses to tactile sensations are highly variable, e.g., I like cotton flannel fabric but I hate most rayon fabrics. Some things that many people would find pleasant I find extremely uncomfortable and vice versa, e.g, I really like the sensation of capsaicin cream and that of heavy pressure. So perhaps the vest could be used by people like me, but the motors' output or tightness of the vest might have to be adjusted. It's possible I might even be able to utilize a higher motor density or higher signal information density (not sure if I'm using the correct term).
I would be pleasantly surprised if the device could be used for learning 'empathy' - learning to read someone's facial expressions and understand what they are feeling. I've experienced an inability to perceive that someone is angry with me, and my functioning level tends to decrease the angrier (and more violent, in some cases) the person becomes. This implies that at some level I am actually aware of the other person's emotional state since it is apparently acting as a stressor. What is impaired is my conscious awareness and understanding of the implications of the other person's emotional state.
I agree completely with alindartist below. I actually felt sorry for Dr Eagleman... an absolutely INCREDIBLE talk; but the audience or the environment there ... or whatever .... just seemed "off". I, myself, would be BLESSED to go to Palo Alto and serve as a "subject" for this kind of stuff!! oh, my goodness... so incredibly "enlightening"... an incredibly sincere thank you to Dr. E
Lots to learn and discuss here. ❤️ This!
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O M G !! I've only Started watching / Listening to this presentation and Already Blown Away!!!
WHen I was 5 I was pulled from a lake > No vitals. It took a couple minutes (they told me) to bring me back and even then I was in a coma for a few days. When I regained consciousness I remembered and Tried to tell "them"(adults) what I'd seen but I had no words to describe the ""Colours"" & "LIhgt" I saw. They were inseparable. The light Was colour and the colour was light. **I'm an artist so I'm quite aware of our colour wheel / spectrum and what is and isn't visible to our eye > The colour/lights I saw are NOT to this day visible to me .. But I remember .. 60 years later > I remember! I Can ''see'' them in my minds eye but I can Still Not provide an apt description outside of light / colour .. :O
OMG > Back to the presentation! :O
I would just add that the ONE sense I would Love to see Added that most believe we already have inspite of low or no evidence is common sense. Oh if that could be taught!
Seems like the evolution of this is to make the definition of the vest and scale and scope of touch signals used (ie, vibration, pressure, shock, temperature, etc.) to find the limit of information input.
That would be very interesting. One thought I have had for a while, which I picked up from someone (don't remember whom) is that: as the brain has a fixed size, the capacity must also be fixed and not unlimited. For me as a young teen, that was freaky and fascinating. But, a few years later, I realize it is not that profound of a statement.
Then a following question to the limit of info, could also be: if people with damaged parts of the brain would be better (as in sensory savants - the working parts compensating for the damaged parts and giving you super abilities) or worse (as you would just have less neurons than normal and in turn not able to store as much in there as a normal person would) in infromation storage.
This is so amazing.
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mindblowing
It would be so interesting to use it while flying a paraglider ! It would allow the pilot to feel the pressure in the different parts of the wing, so the wing would become "a part of him", ans collapses could be enticipated.
Or another mind-blowing application would be to show to a paraglider pilot where the thermals are
You should read Seven Eves by Neil Stephenson, they use a glider exactly like that in the second part of the book.
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He was saying that the limbs, you could feel the prosthetic limbs, so if someone without legs or arms just got this, they could be able to be way stronger and faster without having to take energy to power the limbs, only to feel them
Perceiving the world around you using only sound waves has its own shortcomings. The amount of information you can transfer through waves is based on the wave's frequency, if you can perceive higher frequencies then you can distinguish much finer details. The frequency of light we see is in the order of THz (Tera Hertz), but the sounds we can hear only goes up to kHz (kilo Hertz). Even if we had such sophisticated ears, sound waves simply cannot vibrate at Tera Hertz due to physical limitations of air. As such senses based on EM waves (eyes) are far more superior at revealing details than any other kind of sense. This is especially true for details like color, it is physically impossible to distinguish them just using sonar/ultrasound, because colors arise from molecules altering waves with unimaginably small wavelengths.
Of course I'm not saying other senses are completely useless in comparison, each sense has its own benefits, but when it comes to appreciating minute details in front of you, vision is second to none.
That will be an amazaing step into adapting to big data sets. One thing that come to my mind is that it might be a nightmare for UI/UX designers when people will want to implement those kind of systems in existing data rich platforms.
32:49 for the guessing part with words on a screen, it might be interesting for them to take into account the guesses and see how often each wibration pattern is guessed a certain way as it might show possible improvments for the transformation algorithm to make those vibration patterns more intuitive.
In terms of the size of the device it might also be interesting to make a forearm-band out of it (those things that are about the size of half a sleeve) as it could have more motors than a simple wristband and would be less cumbersome than a full vest while feeding a similar amount of datas.[Edit: I really should've watched it all before saying this x). Though the idea still stands I guess they'd first have to map out how my motors can be easily differentiated by the brain on such a small surface]
very interesting talk and all good questions asked
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I kinda want one. I'd love to be able to sit at work and for 8 hours study another language whilst simultaneously working.
Outstanding talk.
I had a mango for dessert today 😋 where did that man go ?
Would it work to use very low power electric shocks instead of motors? This way it would decrease cost, and potentially allow for increased resolution.
I've always said this for humans. Why focus on mechanical, digital augmentation, when there are also loads of possibilities for biological augmentations that we can explore?
If it seems like we are at an impasse with biological augmentations and how the brain interprets them, then we have to view the brain differently. We have to doubt the terms "data" and "information" as if our brains are not computers, but a vast network of analog interaction. Sure, using brain "data" works for digital augs, but the analog brain will be more useful for biological augs.
Additionally, the solenoid chair is an example of digital aug that is NOT connected to the brain. An original human sense organ is still being used and simply translating. Our goal is to create nervous sense organs and connect it directly to the brain. With this comes the true challenges, but with great potential.
So yes, continue our R&D in the machine direction, but we cannot forget the potential and world of the analog.
TLDR:
There are: Machine augmentations, and biological augmentations. All we have are machine ones that our senses just translate. It would be real cool to also have biological augmentations that connect directly to the brain.
He mentioned about training blinds... I would like to know how long it took to train the brains of blinds to fit with the vest
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"Open API" that made me moist 😄
if this thing was open source there would already be a lot of practical use cases for this
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the vest is not available i really want it its actually revolutionary the new networks you could form through new senses its priceless
Me: mm OK. let us try ur jacket
David: ask me after 10 years. I'll able to tell u.
Where is the Link to the Website he is Talking about? RUclips community do your thing.. *please*
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Hmmm bit disappointing he is still using the same examples as the TED talk from 3 years ago. He could at least tell us some of the longer term results they got...
yeah it's basically the exact same presentation, it's all bs apparently
@@mahmoudabdelsatar3917 where did you get that information. There are other researchers who have similar findings. Also you might have heard of biohacking which is also baced on this principal.
@@rickybloss8537 I wasn't talking about the research, just the person. He did the exact same presentation 5 yrs ago, even the same experiments so I doubt his credibility
@@mahmoudabdelsatar3917 he used them for the first half of the presentation. And yes he should have used more advanced examples but I know a lot of college professors who use the same presentation for years...
except the vest is redesign... and may be improved
i wanna try this while on psychedelics or DMT... Pure vibes
He was so energetic for his presentation during Ted Talks but here he looks jet-lagged and unenthusiastic. Great message though.
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I thought that said massage
Those who knows the functions of a cell phone very well, can understand the activities of our brain like Sensing, transmission, reception etc.
I just remembered, people actually developed this technology successfully, it was just that they where used for games and the other is used as gloves that can feel textures and temperature.
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Interesting to know, my dad went to Middle School with him.
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Depression is a new sense I discovered
Lol more like a filter
Legion from FX was here. clearly from the tick and bloodhound reference
And what about telekinesis? What if you put sensors in the head of someone and then pass that information to the vest. Could you be able to learn mind reading?
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*Telepathy
Telekinesis is moving things with your mind.
Also, maybe.
This video was uploaded in 2019 and he did TED talk in the same topic in 2016.
Which website was he referring to where i could buy it?
anshul agarwall , its not released yet, but you can find it here once its released, neosensory.com/vest/
Its explained well about sensory input of data to brain what about outputting data from brain to device
Already being done with fancy prosthetics!
Pepe who can't feel temperature can benefit a lot from this, and this seems like no bs as he is clear of the limitations and is giving they way to the public domain to play with it and find there own discoveries.
My mother taught me when someone asks you to move don't ask why when or why just move because there might be a piano falling on your head
This is amazing technology for sure. And could help substitute lost sensory information or add new sensory information.
But clearly it won't help mental illness (as it's a BRAIN problem, and not a matter of sensory loss).
As I meditate (eg vipassana), I see it enhances my senses (of being here and now and/ or being able to observe what is going on in me much better - ie, detached from thought stimuli for example). I tend to think this kind of device will help people to get into the state of here and now such that the benefit of meditation - calm and quiet mind - may be achieved better, which in turn helps us not to be caught in our mind habit as much. In fact, my first intuitive sense of application of this device was related to that. More info, and more synthesizing info at real time may being better judgment.
So he's been doing this same skit for the last 5 years. Why has this not taken off yet?
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So this makes me wonder if you can hack a persons brain and tell them what to think just by blinking light in certain patterns at a rapid enough pace that your subconscious picks up on, but consciously you don't realize what's going on. It is totally feasible that you can do this without a person knowing it's going on because we do this all the time with animals by conditioning them to act a certain with certain stimuli. Pavlov's dog experiment comes to my mind, you ring the bell and the dog starts salivating even if the food isn't coming.
Wait so I can buy this now?
They make wrist wearables, primarily targeted at deaf people but they also actively support the modding community
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Fuck it, I'll build one of those this summer and train myself absolute hearing with it. Let's see if the absolute hearing sticks once I remove the extra input!
I would like to see a common sense implanted.
But then again I'm an optimist.
Is this why Google founders left Google?
Huh?
VR!
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at 4:42 David Eagleman says: "a bloodhound dog's whole world is about smell" .......
this is a trick statement?
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that vest is his wife. or he shares it with his wife. love
Please let these happen please let's dump phones and stuff
Is it normal that even the most most complex things that he is talking about make perfect sense to me?!! 👽
Wow is this the same talk as 5 years ago?.. using the same slides potato head thing lol. dam was hoping it was a new one.
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i would like to give intro of mine :: i am doctor and i am impressed by your idea . i want to know that do this jacket can be used for the lie detector or can be used for getting information that the person is telling truth or he is telling lie ( false or true)
Sachin Kumavat you can input polygraph data to this
It's the same answer as David gave for the feelings question. If you have a way of measuring what you are interested in using sensors then you can input it.
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the last one was better he seems sleepy on this one lol.
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He looks frustrated when he mentions he can't implant on the brain... plot twist
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Constructive tip/not critisim but optimisation stuff (just felt like it) again no critism just in case you appreachate such stuff:
"Umwelt" is just made up of two german words or sounds or a derived froma a wrod "around" + world its not relly that unique of a word. its
Um = (coming from around just shorter) and
welt (world)
Um + welt = Umwelt so you can just say "surroundings" or smth. Sounds kinda stange witht he typical english prononciation. (not much and noone cares but just sayng maybe its easyer to use that word. Also maybe some explanations can be overdone and canbe done quicker maybe make a presentation with a life audience of 1-2 people and ask them what they think whenever they understand something or whenever they appreachated a longer explanation. Kinda optimizing for all future presentations and therefore increaseing grants and visability and communication.
wonder if you could rent out your brain as like a server, for bitcoin mining or something?
less cocaine perhaps?
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This guy did a Ted talk 6 years ago about this topic, and he’s mostly showing the same experiments in this presentation that he was four years before this. Why? Did you not break any new ground worth showing in that four years? For example he showed the stock market experiment in his Ted talk in 2015, but had no results to present. Seemingly no results to present now either. I’m not calling any of this technology fake I believe it’s real however he must be facing some quite massive hurdles that I don’t think he was expecting. Or I’m just an uneducated fool, probably that one.
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