What is The Truth - Jennifer Soto - Madeline Soto Case
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- What is The Truth - Jennifer Soto - Madeline Soto Case #madelinesoto
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This video examines some of the elements that people assume are true but there is a reality that needs to be presented.
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I don't care if he "manipulated" jennifer, she has a duty as a mother to keep her daughter safe. Sending her to bed with your ex boyfriend should never, ever be normal or OK.
People are "manipulated" into involving themselves of all sorts of crimes. Do they get some sort of pass for that? Why did the mother say she saw Maddy getting dressed that morning when it's been proven she was no longer alive at that point?
Watch this video! Maybe you’ll get the answer!
Exactly
I agree with you. I’m so sick of this new society we are living in where we can just blame others for our own negligence
Don't forget SS TOLD JS he had already given Maddie her "nighttime medication" so Jen sent her INCAPACITATED child to another room to sleep alone with her ex boyfriend.
When I was sexually abused as a child, I somehow believed the abuse was my fault. I thought of how humiliated I would feel if anyone found out, so I can absolutely believe that Madeline hid the abuse and didn't tell a single person.
I am so sorry.
Yes I can believe you! I was being regularly beaten by my sadistic father in my bedroom with the door closed, and I told no-one because he did beat others including my mother. I kept quiet partly to protect my mother. It seems unbelievable looking back that I never told anyone, I think I also felt ashamed.
I understand but Jen actually let Madeline sleep with her daughter
Thank you for sharing 🙏 Your comment offers insight to those of us that haven't ever walked in those shoes.
@@MEL2theJ
Thank you Mel, it's an impossible position for a child to find themselves in ...
ANYONE that believes allowing YOUR PARTNER to SLEEP with YOUR CHILD, IN A SEPARATE ROOM to be ok... not only do you need help, but you should not be able to have children under your care.
Don’t judge people because this guy made it seem NORMAL to THEM!
Obviously Jenn wasn't barely capable of taking care of herself those that should have helped are just quick to label Maddie ADHD and they don't help because they like those kids that remind them of themselves at that age . The friends are just kids themselves they don't know what's normal and what isn't they see adults labeling her and join in .
Yes, plz don’t birth any more kids!!!
@@jenreilly8058 no, absolutely not. not an excuse. he was her ex-boyfriend at one point, and she still allowed him to go over to her house just to "cuddle" with Madeline... it doesn't matter how you choose to paint it (view it), that's NOT NORMAL! WE AS PARENTS ARE HERE TO PROTECT THEM... not hand them over to the monster.
@@jenreilly8058 I've dealt with this before... A MOTHER KNOWS!!! YOUR CHILD DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO TELL YOU BUT YOU WILL KNOW SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT!
The biggest red flags for me (besides the whole sleeping arrangement isssue) is
1. She nor Stephan told the police or media that Madeline has asthma and used a rescue inhaler. The fact that Maddie needed life saving medication made the situation of her being missing even more urgent.
2. She didn’t have photos ready and loaded on her phone for the police. They had THREE hours to wait until the police arrived.
3. She didn’t notice that one of the Crocs that Maddie was supposedly wearing that day was in her bedroom area under a window. What worried parent doesn’t search a bedroom for any clues about their missing child?
4. She and Stephan didn’t search for Maddie that night after the police left them. Jenn’s family went out on the streets to search, Jenn and Stephan went back to the condo to take benzos and try to sleep. Who would want to sleep or be able to sleep knowing their only child was lost somewhere out in the dark??
All of these things lead me to believe that there was no sense of urgency because both SS and JS knew that Madeline would not be found alive.
Good point about the croc shoe in her room. Also the Police noted they used (correct) past tense grammar when talking about Maddie. “When my daughter was dropped off” “was dropped off”, not when Stephan dropped her off, not when I dropped her off: instead an unowned comment “was dropped off”. Removing herself and her boyfriend from the equation.
Exactly!!!!
Solid comment 👍
Jenn did look for her. She waited for Maddie at the corner so if she walked by after school on the way to her Moms work. LE told her to wait at home while her family looked but they wanted someone at home in case she came home,
Shit my kids literally lose 1 croc all the time and we search for the other. Everthing you stated above can easily be explained
Sorry, I disagree. I would not allow my kids to sleep with anyone but me.
She can't possibly be that naive. He had been abusing her since 8.
Agree, lock her up.
Did you even watch the video? I didn't say that.
@@GrayHughesInvestigatesur the only one that's using common sense instead of emotion to analyze this case. Ty....makes me feel less...crazy
I allowed my son to sleep with his stepdad when I traveled for work and he was scared to sleep alone. I’m not naive nor a bad parent. The Stephan Sterns of the world are the exception not the rule.
@@43ShaDeyhow is that common sense? Her daughter was abused and had videos made of her for 4 years
Jenn didn’t “allow” Maddie to sleep with Sterns, she gave Sterns permission to sleep with Maddie. BIG DIFFERENCE. I am a survivor of childhood SA, starting at age 7. I never told anyone. Unless you have lived experience, stop trying to understand Maddie’s motivations for staying silent. Your insistence on trying to prove Jenn innocent and keep your own narrative going is downright disrespectful to Maddie and all victims of childhood sexual abuse.
1 in 3 women have been sexually abused please don’t act like your the only one everyone has different experiences Some are threatened some are embarrassed
@@KortlandWilson It’s always great to read a woman supporting another woman 🙄. Nowhere in my comment did I imply I was the only one. I WAS suggesting that Gray cannot truly understand why Maddie never told anyone. He was implying that there was some weird, dark conspiracy beneath this story and the people that lay blame on Jenn are crazy. Have a wonderful day! You seem like a lovely person.
You tell them ... Preach And hugs
Sorry, no, it's out that Madeline had been assaulted beginning at age 8, so no way her mother was at all vigilant. Even if she had nothing to do with her daughters death, she is responsible by way of neglect, and that's at the bare minimum.
grooming
EXACTLY
Grey
She let Maddie and Stephan alone since she was 8
I don’t believe she was ever hyper vigilant about leaving them alone
Nothing stated since she was 8 . She met Stephan when maddie was 8
A bipolar single mom isn't the vigilant type Stephan pressed on that that's the type that see a perceived weakness and pounce on their prey ! How many see vulnerable people and take advantage ? unfortunately a lot of predators exist and Stephan is a predator always preying on the vulnerable .
@@beanj580Sterns had been S/A Maddy since she was 8 years old. LE have found ALL the evidence in his phone. That poor child went through HELL in her own home for 5 YEARS. While her Mother slept in her own bedroom. It’s incomprehensible to me?
@@debi6666documents did state he had images of SA' ing her since age 8 but we have no confirmation he slept alone in bed with her since age 8. Jenn made horrible parenting choices.
I think Jennifer was so desperate to have a man in her life that she, perhaps subconsciously, didn't allow herself to be suspicious of him. Either that, or she is just naturally, shockingly, ignorant and naive.
Or wasted out of her skull on pills
You have to be ignorant to keep a dangerous man and that can lower your self-esteem and then "anything goes"
Where has it been released that this was why she was with Stephan?
@@MM-ik7cs It's speculation. We sometimes reveal our own character to fill in the blanks. There are some blanks to be filled in like "Why Did Jen Choose to be with a Murdering Pedo?
Yes, Jenn was groomed as well. But a mother is responsible for her child. Jenn endangered her child by her poor judgment.
Amen
I agree
(Copy paste of my earlier comment to a now removed video.)
Jen lied way to much for a mother of a missing 13 year old. Groomed or not, you don’t lie to the police who try to find your daughter and need all the facts.
About the black shorts: Maddie’s teacher said iirc that she would wear a green hoodie and shorts when it was “sports day”. So maybe that monday was a sports day and that is why Jen corrected SS based on a logical assumption.
I don’t think she was involved with the murder. I do still think she has guilty knowledge. Don’t get me started about the sleeping arrangements. Groomed or not, no excuse for that. At all. None, zero.
"She was last seen wearing.....
....and thats about it".
Weird as.
Not normal.
Lied to FRIENDS LOTHER about dropping her off at 845. Also not a normal slip to say "saw" versus "heard"
Maddie didn't have her own room!
Jenn was not invited to maddie's birthday.
It was not a pleasant household for Maddie.
So you think LE is just letting this abuser out and about!
As GHI just pointed out, she only lied once about seeing her in the morning. That could have been a genuine mistake. She might also have been lying to cover for her own lackluster parenting.
@@HumanimalChanneland that’s exactly how SS wanted it. He caused chaos between them- so he looked like the good guy. So when he says something, she believes him cuz she thinks he has this great relationship with her. She’s too zonked out to know he was a complete creep.
@@BettyBlack99 Even when he doesn't answer the question about did she go to school, Jen asks to repeat the question. It looks like she knows the truth but doesn't want to be gaslit about the accusation so she stays quiet. I'm only speculating because I don't know if Steven would make Jen out to be smart when he isn't or that could blow his cover.
There were too many red flags. Jen ignored it. She needs to be charged. I don't care how much he groomed her. She's an adult. There was so much going on with Maddie. Red flags everywhere. She turned a blind eye.
I recently learned there were people renting rooms in that condo possibly family members and they said nothing and a girlfriend of the monster said he said he is sleeping with a 12 year old and this person did nothing!!
I just don’t know how a mum can be manipulated or groomed to think it was ok to let a grown man sleep with your young daughter
As a parent, she failed. Parents recognize failure.
Jennifer lived with her and barely worked. Any mother can tell when something is bothering or off with her child.
Jen lied for him - who lets daughter sleep with an adult male ?
Jennifer was disagreeing with stephan about what shorts she was wearing in the first encounter with police. If she didn't see her, why disagree?
yes exactly and she was found wearing blue jeans
sterns said black or blue pants. If jennifer knew she was dead, why would it matter what clothes she is seen in. Changing the type of clothing is irrelevant. What gain did she get from it? She likely thought that is what she would be wearing because perhaps she set it aside for her. since Maddie was dead explain the strategic advantage by giving the wrong pant or short type?
@GrayHughesInvestigates if during their initial search, they encountered someone who said they saw a girl walking alone wearing black shorts that would mean they weren't the last ones to see her. I have no idea if that happened, but its a possible reason to lie about what she was wearing.
@@GrayHughesInvestigatesyes 👏 👏👏👏
@@mr.tomatohead5648 but we know Maddie was already deceased because they have him on video moving her body and her in the front seat likely already deceased. It was probably not her.
Notice how he becomes inarticulate when he says “rifling through her…uh…backpack.”
If he didn’t live under a slimy rock, he’d know that dumping the victim’s backpack and shoe in the trash where you “live” is about as stupid as it gets.
Don’t you find it negligent that she allowed them to sleep together ?
Jennifer had to know something was going on you don’t just send your daughter to go sleep with your boyfriend never I have been with my husband for 18 years and would never let my daughter sleep with my husband ever she sent Maddie to a creep and she knew it
I agree somewhat BUT Jenifer worked mostly from home. He had a tripod set up in that room and sex items for YEARS.
I watched the entire live, but didn't comment. I was engrossed in the content, and fully agree. Both Jen and Maddie were groomed, is my feeling. It is so much more clear to me in the way that you outlined it. THIS is what makes sense. Thank you, Gray! Best ever!
if she believed it to be "NORMAL" it wouldn't have been a secret.
do you really believe that he was "that good" AS MESSY as he was and ALL the evidence they have against him do you really believe that he was "that good"?
This comment needs to be highlighted! 👏🏻👏🏻
I couldn't disagree more.
Question is when is THIS WOMEN gonna be charged she as guilty as he is
JS is also a monster. Period.
Well LE don’t agree and either does Gray Hugh’s
What proof do you have, Please share because it would truly help with the investigation. Thank you
GH: What I don't understand is how you can put a screenshot from a document up on the screen that clearly says "Jennifer said she SAW Maddie..." and then try to use it to prove your point she didn't lie? My dad was former NYPD, cops don't make up words in their reports.. they use the words the person said, in fact, you'll even see them use exact phrases they feel are important to the case and they'll quote the person (ie: SS "time to kill"...) Did you ask yourself, if the cops were confused, who caused the confusion? I have all the docs, Jen first says to LE she "observed" Maddie, then she "saw" Maddie. One of the cops noted Jen's inconsistencies in an Incident Report in the docs. Jen told one officer she saw Maddie at 8 am MONDAY, however the officer filing this report notes that Jen told him she last saw Maddie at 2300 hours on SUNDAY. Inconsistencies or lies? or, as you are saying, Jen told the truth and it's the cops fault for not writing what she said correctly. Come on! But go on, you can choose to protect the women who didn't protect her child and lied or covered it up to LE...Having anxiety and being tired does not absolve you from providing basic supervision to ensure the well being of your child.
Thank you for the information Gray Hughes Investigates 👍
What struck me is that she sent her daughter packing to another room with her boyfriend but the dog got to sleep in her bed
Infuriating to hear that man speak up pretending to be helpful and the whole time he knows what he did and where she is. Sickening
26:07 Great point. Stephan quite likely guilted Jenn with “I did this for you because you wanted to sleep in.” Manipulator, for sure.
Believe me there are moms who are that naive. I had one in my family. She was so trusting and never thought anyone that she knew would do anything like that to her daughter. She found out and called the police.
Im loving your coverage 👍 the approx 30 min video's are perfect for me.Thankyou Gray 👏🔥👏
Same. I start to become not as focused after 30 minutes. I don't mean too, it just happens. I definitely CAN'T do those 2 hr. Lives. example T rex or Dolly vision with yapping women. 😫
Very very weird how youre the only one who isnt seeing the utter shadiness of this lady.
Exactly 🤬
I wonder why she disliked her daughter so much that she said she was gonna disown her daughter at 18 and gave away her ashes to her Maddies dad.
So Jen is not guilty of anything but blatantly lying to police?
Also with all of sterns' old friends and ex partners have stories about this guy. I have a hard time believing jennifer never picked up on this guys true intentions.
He even mentions that when maddy was younger she took inappropriate pics on her phone. Id love to know the details of that story. Sure sounds like jennifer found something on someones phone and sterns couldnt hide it and blamed it on maddy.
Excellent video...thank you for great videos❤
I find disturbing Mom lying about Maddie being dropped of by ‘We’
Did you not watch this video? @gray Hughes investigates just went through half of this video explaining how this is not true!🙄
@@sconnielassie isn't that amazing?
@@GrayHughesInvestigates people 🤯.
@@sconnielassie Put the pitchfork down. Looks like the evidence shows "We" is a term for an agreement made well before that morning.
I will often use 'we' even though it is my husband, we means "us in the household". Clearly Jenn was including Stern in their household.
I don't know why you are giving her so much leeway.....it sounds to me like you think her saying "we" was OK, and its not OK. She did say "we" even if she corrected it. Why say "we" if it was not "we"? I think she is protecting him.
I do think that. Often people say we in terms of family but each time said my boyfriend or partner dropped him off. What part of that did you not understand? you seem to have tunnel vision
@@GrayHughesInvestigates no I don’t. Funny that you say that though…. Seeing as how you’re an investigator. We all have our opinions I suppose, can’t fault me for that.
I can’t ever remember a time in my 47 years of life that I said “we” when I was alone OR said “we” when I wasn’t even In the situation. The only time that somebody would do that is if they are lying!!!
@@ldlepine89 I feel like his response to you was absolutely uncalled for and rude!!
@@thatswhatshesaid6326 that’s exactly how I felt. Why did he feel the need to attack me?
7:00 min: No, she does NOT tell the reallity of it each time!! To the contrary!!! In the first police interview she said "We dropt her off...", and to one of Maddies friend she said "I dropt her off..."!! To my recollection, this is the ONLY time she admits that it was Stephan who dropt Maddie off.
Did you watch the video? She interchanges we/him/my partner several times. It seems like grooming to me and that SS basically brainwashed JS.
We can all ask NOW, how did JS not know, but the fact is, none of us lived in the house to know what was going on. I’m hopeful that with the trail of pictures and video that SS left that there has to be proof of any involvement on JS’s part. But that is a while separate issue from Maddie’s murder.
It’s sort of frustrating to read all these comments about JS…people are so quick to judge before knowing the full story or ever being in a situation where they were manipulated. I’m not saying that happened, but we have to wait until more information is presented.
Her mum should be in jail child neglected
No matter how much evidence is provided to the contrary all these people continue to think she was in on the whole thing. Literally disregarding every piece of evidence saying she had no idea. Personally i thnk the mother's behavior in raising her daughter was reckless but that does not equate criminality.
Reckless endangerment of a child? Child neglect? Negligence resulting in death?
@@steaphaniechapman1535GH and others keep asking what she could get charged with but then ignore the answers. I’ve seen experienced law enforcement and attorneys agree saying that any or all of those charges could apply to her. Recklessness leading to death is a second degree felony! These are serious crimes.
I agree. She made some questionable decisions but that doesn’t mean she was a criminal. I think it could equate to some naivety! Stephen was definitely manipulative… and I think he manipulated Jennifer. There’s no way that with the way he is that he wasn’t manipulating Jennifer, too.
@@steaphaniechapman1535Jenn couldn't take care of herself let alone a child , where were the adults that labeled her ? Because they can't be bothered to help a child that clearly has something seriously wrong in her home life they can't be bothered.
I'm still undecided but very suspicious. I have to ask though, to the original comment, what's this evidence you're speaking of when you say people are "literally disregarding every piece of evidence saying she had no idea"? I don't think there's ANY evidence saying she didn't know, there's just not any evidence that proves that she DID. Those are 2 VERY different things!
Gray, Ignorance isnt a defense to neglect.. at the least neglect..
Also lying about seeing maddy in the moning was a lie.. gray,how do you justify that lie?? You pass right over this fact while it black and white in the sworn statement
I explained it in the video. try and pay attention
@GrayHughesInvestigates i watch all your videos, and I am paying attention. Maybe I'm paying too much attention to a you tuber that doesn't appreciate his viewer watching and trying to have dialog with the creator. I will just keep my comments to myself. Thanks for the content..
Mr Hughes, have you lost your mind ? because I'll help you find it!
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I’m wondering if he’s taking the unpopular opinion for more clicks???
@@NEnigma777 Delphi suspect and Kohberger didn't get his view of innocence in his videos. I personally think they're all guilty
We or I is really a moot point now, don't you think? Mother allowed, and sent, her daughter to share a bed with bf. No mother who cares one iota about her child would do that. I totally disagree with grooming of mother. Maddie was being assaulted from the beginning of the relationship so there was flagrant neglect, possibly a "don't care, don't want to be bothered" attitude from the very beginning. Regardless, mother is culpable in the abuse.
She’s intentionally causing confusion. Any mother worth her salt would never allow her child to sleep with a boyfriend. Innocent or not. Trust no one with your children. Unfortunately you don’t get second chances once it’s happened. She knew full well what was going on IMO
Thank Gray!!
If I drop my child off who’s missing, I say ‘I dropped her off’ If it’s my boyfriend, ‘he dropped her off.’ Using ‘we’ as she did repeatedly with ‘he’ implies a linguistic misnomer, makes no sense unless of course she’s covering for him, even just to show ‘we are a couple, we are as one’ Which they weren’t, remember? They had broken up months before. These two are so closely intertwined, she knows everything and more.
Great video!!
It’s clear he is good at hiding & grooming those around him. Think about the guy that was his good buddy. They vacationed together. Lived together. And when he split from his wife & heard SS asked her out- he was ok cuz he thought at least she’d be with a good guy- never even crossed his mind that he was after his daughter.
While I understand we don’t need an echo chamber in here, I do think you’re right on AGAIN, @Gray Hughes Investigates
with your perception of the grooming of Jennifer Soto by Stephan Sterns. With only the known facts, there’s absolutely nothing to prove mom knew anything about the SA and ultimately the murder of Madeleine. I’m not ready to say otherwise so I’m with you on this. Sorry mom’s, not everyone has that motherly instinct. 😒 it’s infuriating that Maddie endured such events until her murder. Just awful!
Yep!
She was more than likely embarrassed about what was going on.
I agree about the WE! I’ve always thought that Stephan said, OMG… They are gonna blame me! If they find out I was with her last! Oh. No! We don’t want them to focus on me instead of the villians
There is no way jennifer is that nieve that she really thought there was nothing going on when she would send that disgusting person to sleep in a bed with her CHILD!!!!
As for Madeline not saying anything to anyone, if you thankfully have never been SA you have no idea the thought process of the person and what they are being told. It is not out of the norm for someone being SA don't say anything
True, on your last comment! 💥 👊
Thank you
Thanks Gray
Unless she was raised that way herself.
Most likely.
I recall instances when people who speak calmly about things that are really unbearable to them. It just explodes in other ways.
She also still claimed he was her "partner."
Your right Gray depends on the conversation and how it’s convey
The we can refer as “ we” as a family unit .
I agree with your analysis
We often say “we”
In our house. It’s like an agreement thing. I don’t know. For example, just the other day; I said to my mother in law “we” just went to the store and spent $100. But it was just me. I think it’s just a think that most people say stuff like that without even thinking.
I caught this too. Thank you for doing this video.
In addition, no mom wants to think about anything happening to their children. So I think it’s natural for her not to think about that.
I so question them sleeping in the same bedroom- but I think it’s because we now know more. There were definitely red flags. I agree. I can understand though why she may not have suspected anything.
Not to be rude, but I think it’s weird that you said “we” went to the store!? That doesn’t even seem logical to me that you would include other people with you on a trip to the store when you were by yourself!?
Of course, no parent wants to believe something bad that happened to the child but if my child was missing, that would be the FIRST thing that I would think of!!! Not to mention, I would probably be inconsolable!!
🙄
Glad that we KNOW NOW... that most of the evidence was from this "makeshift room with bed" had so much evidence.
Then why did she lie about seeing Maddie that morning? Why did she repeat his lies about dropping her off if she didn’t actually see it happen? I’m VERY skeptical of this halfwit. There is such thing as motherly instinct.
Exactly
JS not the sharpest knife in the kitchen
If I was telling police what happened, I would not have said, “we”. I would have said WHO took her to school. He said he’s only taken her about 5 times, but mentions “ just like any other day (circa)”.
I want to see Jen interrogated so that she can be pushed on details.
The simple comment “he took her to school” in and of itself is A LIE. So there’s that. She was lying.
I think you explained that part of this crime well .. I understand it alot better now thanks
A person can be charged with child neglect even if they didn’t know they were being neglectful. Child neglect is a form of childhood abuse, and legal action can be taken against someone who neglects a child in their care. So, even if she didn't believe sending her daughter to sleep with this guy or allowing him access, she may still be liable. However, it is not a crime to allow a child to sleep with your boyfriend in Florida. It can come into play in custody though. So it is somewhat confusing.
I appreciate the time and effort you put into this video. The black shorts comment was an assumption by Jen because she was usually wearing black shorts, which explains that comment. Her sending them to sleep together is troubling. My biggest issue with her is her smirking during her interview while the dog feeder recording was playing. That was so weird and troubling in my opinion. I believe he groomed Maddie and Jen, but I believe Jen had some knowledge after the murder and was afraid to tell because he convinced her she’d be blamed because she sent them to sleep alone in room 4. She denied being able to recognize his genitalia in the CSAM. She checks into rehab as soon as he’s arrested. What’s up with that? I’m not sure if she has any involvement with the murder but think her behavior with the smirking and grinning and repeating an obviously scripted statement every time, is cause for suspicion.
wasn't that a parrot?
for me the ping data and her statements line up. Her repeating the version stephan sterns told her makes sense as she didn't want to drive maddie that morning and felt like she had trust and believe Stern's story and she had no reason not to trust him. Makes sense to me.
@@GrayHughesInvestigatesvery possibly, or a timed recording on a device at a set feeding time.
@@GrayHughesInvestigates I can see that perspective as well. I don’t want to condemn her but am really troubled by her smirking and general behavior during the interview at the apartment. The interview at her mother’s office was more in line with a normal response in my opinion. I won’t be surprised if it’s discovered that she had knowledge after the murder and he frightened or threatened her. Once she crossed that line it was too late.
I can't even finish this video because my heart and gut say she is involved and regardless she is guilty of dumbest stupidity and neglect and had her baby girl killed for her ignorance period. She brought this man into their life!!!
I agree. I lost a little respect for Gray after this video
She was looking in a backpack... After he put it in the dumpster... She slept half way but wanted to walk the rest of the way 🤔🤔🤔🤔💬 🤔🤔
Hey, I noticed something, when she said "he drove away" the tone of voice is the same tone we use with kids when we want them to repeat or learn what we are saying. (He drove away! So that mean he repeatedly told her what to said listen to that again… (he drove way)
right he told her the story of what he did that day and she remembered it. Probably told her over and over. yet she still says he drove her to school over and over.
I was wrong. Jen is innocent. what a twist in the story. Your video makes so much sense. I see it. I have seen it a couple of times but I rejected it because I was too comfortable holding a pitchfork. Forgive me Jen and my condolences. God bless her
I too now see the light. 😉
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@@NEnigma777 Not everyone disagrees and spews out mockery unless they are spiritually broken and looks like you just want someone to blame for the injustice on Maddy. I feel the same but when you are wrong, YOU ARE WRONG. Watch the video again and bring back your evidence to show Jens's part in the grooming and mind games that took her daughter's life in more ways than one or you will need to emotionally grow up. God bless you
@@sabrinalennox2004 I am relieved to see the truth come out and God bless you. Not everyone can easily put their pitchfork and torch away.
Thanks again for showing logical thoughts and facts 👍
Listening now.👍🏻❤️👼
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I think the poor child was drugged and wasn't aware, the mother being bipolar are also usually on heavy medication especially at night because they don't sleep well
He said he dropped her off & it was just like any other day. Any other day, he wasn’t the one that took her to school
Thank you so much for your honest and complete assessment of Jennifer's statements. I don't think she is guilty of a crime. I think she was an easy target for a psychopathic predator's manipulation. I would not have parented my child the same way, I would not even have roommates living with my child (better to live in a lower cost neighborhood without roommates). That still doesn't mean she consciously harmed her child or is guilty of a crime.
Greetings from New York
Interesting
Great video, Gray! I only have one question for you: I thought that Jen also stated in one of the first interviews that she saw Maddie getting ready for school? I might be remembering that wrong, so I thought I’d ask.
Thanks!
I also remember her saying she saw her getting ready for school, then switched and said last time she saw her was night before. IMO, she is covering for him.
Yep, I agree with the we, I ,he did analyses.
Ppl will analyze every word and assign a meaning to each one. It’s weird. They have done the same thing with Katie and Chris Proudfoot. Because they have used a different term or let a little more info out ppl say they have changed their story. Yt is full of bizarre ppl. It’s crazy.
I think Jennifer is very naive and easily manipulated. Stephan is the monster, he groomed Maddie and Jennifer.
If your kid is missing first thing you do ask your boyfriend to show you his phone bc you want to see if he had any conversation/fight with her. She didn’t ask for his phone and was not suspicious that both of their phones are home? If she would check his phone and saw everything deleted she would know right away something is up and as caring mother would run to detectives to inform them. If my daughter is missing everyone is a suspect I would be detective immediately. I would be first one in the office of complex to check cameras. Why she didn’t do that?
I think the officer simply misinterpreted what Jennifer actually said. The statement itself- "observed her getting dressed"- never sounded right to me in the first place and I've seen it in other cases where officer's reports included inaccurate information based on misinterpretation.
As for why Sterns returned to the apartment, I think it's because he either didn't think he'd had the opportunity to hide her body or he hadn't yet decided how or where he'd hide it.
She was then asked what time did you see her getting ready to which she responded 8.
I’m sorry, Gray, but normally I would agree with you but you have it all wrong about Jen. She is far from innocent. It is not normal for adults to be sleeping with minors. I have a neighbor that she and her husband sleep with their 9 year old girl. It’s disgusting. I even asked a few of my doctors including my psychologist and all agreed immediately it is NOT normal and it is almost always an indication of something nefarious going on. I would like to add that the daughter of my neighbor also wears makeup and has a boyfriend that she kisses all the time. It’s just bizarre and she’s always getting sexualized. I think you’re going to be the minority standing behind Jenn Soto
I’m starting to believe Maddie was heavily sedated in the car when she was slumped
How's everyone this fine scorcher of a day
Half a block away try half mile away
I believe is that Jennifer was not groomed she is a grown woman and knows right from wrong I think that she took so many drugs that it just didn't matter just as long as she got her drugs I don't believ that she cared one thing about Maddie I do not think she had any kind of motherly instincts for Maddie who knows she may be doing the same thing she didn't even care enough to go to her child's 13th birthday party get real Jen is evil to Maddie herself because it is plainly said that Jennifer does like women as well as men I think that she is evil and that she did not care one bit about her daughter she only cared for herself
Did you take off your last Jen Soto vid where you said that she said that she did not know what was going on ??????
I haven't watched this yet but have bn following every update since February. I think the truth is SS did this on his own.....he panicked bc Maddie started talking crazy.... Jen was although criminally negligent, extremely hoodwinked and manipulated by SS. I'm sure Jen asked Maddie several times in the beginning of the weird sleeping arrangements if everything was okay and Maddie reassured her which made her eventually think she was crazy for even thinking anything sinister was going on. That's why she didn't hesitate to tell le about the sleeping arrangements...if she knew about the abuse, she would hide the fact from le. And regarding "we" & "he" means more than u think. She used 'we' bc she took SS word for fact. If she had known or even suspected him of doing anything sinister to Maddie, she would have distanced herself from the entire thing,,,,she would have used "he" not "we". This is true from the beginning of time for codefendants, they will always give themselves the option to finger the other even if subconsciously. Majority of the discrepancies in her statements come from her trying to cover up the fact that she was an absentee parent (just like Tyler , btw)
Thank you so much for your comment. Your statement here seems to be the most logical explanation considering all the facts we know at this time. I agree with everything you so well stated. Thanks again! “Stay safe out there.”
Why are you guys protecting Jenn soto???
She must mean we as in, parents either one or both because she didn't think he had involvement? Was she not panicked because she thought she had ran off with a friend etc?
The Holiday Inn where he parked and moved Madeline to the trunk is not a hotel. It’s the Holiday Inn vacation Club corporate office.
That’s what I’ve been trying to tell ppl every thinks it’s a actual hotel. It was a corporate office
He probably encouraged her naps and more sedative medication over time too. It seemed caring to her but he was just grooming her
Jenn Soto is she connected to some higher authorities, as she is still out there freelancing her life. Maybe she is protected by someone, so she is not brought in for further questioning of what kind of mother feeds the sexual boyfriend predator her daughter, just like that.She can go to jail we'weeing with her killer boyfriend.
So true he manipulated them all including her father
Has the video been removed
if you are typing no.
@@GrayHughesInvestigatesOh yeah . Lol. Lot on my mind at the moment .