Tape Miter Folding 12' Beams - Perfect Beam Assembly with Just Tape

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @InsiderCarpentry
    @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад +3

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    Strapping Tape - amzn.to/30zDOCX
    Tape Dispensing Gun - amzn.to/3iwaCCQ
    Titebond III Wood Glue - amzn.to/3jwyvMa

    • @billcarter6984
      @billcarter6984 3 года назад

      I saw you using a red saw on a festool track-what kind of saw is that

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      @jamircoen649 3 года назад

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  • @5minprojects817
    @5minprojects817 3 года назад +4

    Said it before and I'll say it again, Arguable the BEST carpentry channel on the planet.

  • @dalekuen6402
    @dalekuen6402 2 года назад +3

    Spencer, I tried this for the first time today after seeing this video about a year ago. I will never do another mitered box post or Beam any other way. I was real nervous to try it but it came out looking super clean, going to install tomorrow. Thank you for all the effort you put into your work and thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @solowfrful
    @solowfrful 3 года назад +2

    If you put the tape length wise as you did, then add tape across the 3 or 4 pieces, the tape length wise will contain the glue while the tape running across the 3 pieces will hold the miters together. We use to do it your way in the beginning, but quickly learned that the additional tape gave the assembly more strength to force the glue into the grain as well as up the joint to the interior.

  • @javierchavez5296
    @javierchavez5296 4 года назад +3

    Your carpentry skills are awesome dude.. who ever disliked this video they're just unhappy people.. jealousy..👌✌👍

  • @productiontrimcarpenter
    @productiontrimcarpenter Год назад

    Just did my first baby beam of 4 ft as part of a much larger beam project and it went awesomely well thanks to you sir.
    Got a few looks at the shop, as they have always been built with miters glue and 15 gauge brads. 55 year old apprentice with 2 years in the trade, and your technique is awesome! Thanks again.

  • @OliviasAvenunue
    @OliviasAvenunue 3 года назад +3

    This channel is amazing with the massive amount of information and techniques on carpentry. I am a DIYer, and this has made remodeling projects so easy, and I keep watching these videos over and over. Thank you Mr Lewis.

  • @turbinepower77
    @turbinepower77 4 года назад +4

    Retired finish carpenter. I've used that method many times on beams, pole wraps and newel posts.

  • @mbeanbag2
    @mbeanbag2 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video! I am going to attempt these techniques on the next beams I build for my kitchen remodel. Thanks for taking the time to show the process in order to reach the final product.

  • @laysim7
    @laysim7 4 года назад +4

    Thank you for your vids! I'm an apprentice carpenter and have learned loads from your videos and techniques. Really like how you talk about the details, like pros and cons of different tapes! Cheers for being humble and showing the imperfections/room for upgrading a certain move for the next assembly. All the best.

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад +2

      Thanks man. Glad its helping you.

    • @zack8399
      @zack8399 4 года назад +3

      @@InsiderCarpentry ^i can ditto that comment.
      Though I'm past my apprenticeship years, still learning lots. I've never seen the tape trick applied to such a long run. Love it!

  • @briancorboy1042
    @briancorboy1042 4 года назад +6

    I'm going to have to try that on my next coffered ceiling. Thank you for taking the time to film and share your techniques.

    • @billcarter6984
      @billcarter6984 3 года назад

      I see a red saw running on a festool track-I thought it wouldn't work with anything but festool saw. What saw are you using?

  • @michaelwangler486
    @michaelwangler486 2 года назад +1

    I've used this technique with smaller boxes and blue painters tape. Recently I am building a large TV surround. The 45.5 is really important with large pieces. I did the first at 45 degrees and did not get a tight joint. The only issue was using the strong packing tape.
    Since the project was paint grade, I used MDF. That strong packing tape lifted some of the top surface of the MDF. Even though I sanded the pieces, the lift-off showed after spraying primer and satin finish. I had to prime a few costs and sand it down.

  • @rickpolicastro5474
    @rickpolicastro5474 4 года назад +1

    So very much enjoying a fellow craftsman at work... a breath of fresh air

  • @muddywater6856
    @muddywater6856 4 года назад +11

    A strap of tape perpendicular to the miter about every foot or two seems to help hold things tight for me...
    Also a quick run of a veneer roller down the tape before folding helps reduce glue bleed.
    I need to try the TB3!
    Great video

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад

      Thanks for the tips! I have found the same thing with running some strips perpendicular also. 👍👊

  • @Frankreddy62
    @Frankreddy62 4 года назад +1

    Great process. Thanks for taking the time to record and share it. It is going to save a lot of time.

  • @heystarfish100
    @heystarfish100 4 года назад +2

    Excellent instructional video Professor and so very well produced. Thank you!

  • @jmorg1980
    @jmorg1980 4 года назад +1

    Getting ready to make some faux columns to cover some piping at work....just ordered some strapping tape and a dispenser. Thanks for the tip.

  • @czapskibusinessgroup
    @czapskibusinessgroup Год назад +1

    I just sid a test piece for this exact method with maple plywood. It does seem to take a slight amount of the veneer off when you pull the tape but a quick sand seemed to make it all good.

  • @jeremiahcoles2378
    @jeremiahcoles2378 4 года назад +3

    This is a great technique it totally beats glue and brads

  • @als1023
    @als1023 3 года назад +1

    I use a small triangle ( saw ) file to touch up the teeth on the tape roller. I use them a lot for various quick tape jobs like flooring underlayment, vapour barrier etc. Great video, down and dirty, fast and simple !

  • @swolenation8432
    @swolenation8432 4 года назад +4

    I love it u could even do this method onsite with a jobsite table saw and a tracksaw is obviously portable but def have to rip that straight edge first then throw it through the tablesaw and i think as long as the bevel is slightly steeper than a 45 this is flawless and anyone whos got patience could do it i love it keep up the slick ideas man

  • @patrickmcardle4511
    @patrickmcardle4511 4 года назад +1

    I love all the detail that you go into in this video. Thanks for sharing!!

  • @timloney2251
    @timloney2251 4 года назад +1

    Greatly appreciate you taking the time to put this video together! Lots of tips and tricks packed into this video.

  • @johncasson5001
    @johncasson5001 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video and talk through and you made it look so easy , superb.

  • @coryschulthies8731
    @coryschulthies8731 3 года назад +1

    Always fantastic videos. I'm going to apply this technique to make a 1.5" wide finished end panel for fridge cabinets using 3/4 plywood.

  • @brandonlong5276
    @brandonlong5276 Год назад +1

    just did this today worked great - apprentice carpenter

  • @littlebit5870
    @littlebit5870 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the info! Perfect timing for my beams next week.

  • @davidcapes9629
    @davidcapes9629 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video man. I’m doing this on a beam light for my dining room. Will definitely use your tape and burnishing tips!

  • @coreyyoung186
    @coreyyoung186 4 года назад +1

    Nice work! This technique is something I have used for many years building teak cabinetry for yachts .And yes titebond 3 is the way to go.

  • @AllthingsJimThorpePA
    @AllthingsJimThorpePA 2 года назад

    Have to make three beams for my mountain house. This video gives mevthe confidence. Thanks

  • @slcustomcarpentry853
    @slcustomcarpentry853 4 года назад +1

    I did 3 folded miter columns today with the HD tape. Perfect.... 45.5, titebond, flawless... Thanks brother...

  • @gregdee530
    @gregdee530 4 года назад +2

    Had a job like this just last week that had to be done on site with the track saw, I used Gaffer tape (Australia) and it worked well.

  • @nickbild3538
    @nickbild3538 4 года назад +1

    Going to use these tips to wrap some columns that support my covered patio in cedar. Thank you. Subbed 👍

  • @evodawg
    @evodawg 4 года назад +1

    Looks like it works very well. Have to give it a try. Thanks.

  • @publicprofile1
    @publicprofile1 4 года назад +2

    I was fighting with long miters a month ago while making a bookcase. This is genius!

  • @lerxstfan8295
    @lerxstfan8295 4 года назад +1

    Nice job man. I did one with birch plywood recently and i wish i would have seen this beforehand. That strap tape seems like the way to go. I only had masking and it took a lot of time to get it right. That being said, im sure your finish product is far superior to mine... thx for the vid!!

  • @walterperrault
    @walterperrault 4 года назад +1

    Awesome thank you for sharing your tips and techniques

  • @jeffreyeiford2750
    @jeffreyeiford2750 3 года назад +1

    Thank You for ALL the info tips man .
    You Da Man

  • @CARyan08
    @CARyan08 4 года назад +1

    Excellent insights on the finer points. Love it.

  • @stevexbishop
    @stevexbishop 3 года назад +2

    I discovered your channel recently Spence and I love all your stuff. You are a very impressive carpenter, thanks for sharing everything, for a part time woodworker like myself your stuff is fantastic. This mitre fold technique on long stuff is just great, would you ever cover an existing beam with a fold technique or just fit every side panel separately? Thank again Steve

  • @jacobtanner1933
    @jacobtanner1933 4 года назад +1

    Love the Videos Spencer! I make my beams and miter folds the same way. Love watching your videos on here and Instagram. There are always bits and pieces that I have not thought of or experienced and can apply it to my workflow! Thanks and keep up the Great Work!

  • @treelimb2878
    @treelimb2878 2 года назад

    That's a great idea! Thank you for posting!

  • @jamartin1
    @jamartin1 4 года назад +1

    Very nice I love it! Really cool chalk line!

  • @vassoscostas473
    @vassoscostas473 4 года назад +2

    Thanks-excellent video. I am learning a lot of new techniques which I plan to apply to various projects. Just one comment (which I hope you won't take as a criticism), it might be worth showing the end result at the beginning of the video and then it is clear what you are working to achieve.

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад

      The problem is the end result doesn’t happen for three months after I do the work. But I’ll see what I can do.

  • @christophermcnulty9215
    @christophermcnulty9215 4 года назад +2

    Maffell saw on festool rail... Nice... just done this recently myself

  • @tc9148
    @tc9148 4 года назад +1

    Love all of his videos, so detailed and so practical.

  • @jamescooper1154
    @jamescooper1154 Год назад +1

    Great idea. Never saw that before

  • @Mr0Randomness
    @Mr0Randomness 4 года назад +4

    love seeing you more active on YT, came from insta and this is just great content. next up, stair caps?

  • @johnfrederickson3082
    @johnfrederickson3082 4 года назад +1

    you make this look so simple

  • @chrislogue5744
    @chrislogue5744 4 года назад +2

    Absolutely love the method. I'm going to try it on my next set of beams. Keep the great videos coming brother.

  • @danielsilvis203
    @danielsilvis203 4 года назад +2

    Hey man thank for making these videos you have helped me on the job from just watching your videos. You are really talented.

  • @rankingutteriz455
    @rankingutteriz455 4 года назад +1

    Very informative and helpful. Perhaps a closeup of how much glue in the joint is the proper amount, or I can just try it on scrap pieces to learn.

  • @Mark_MOORE_VFL
    @Mark_MOORE_VFL 4 года назад

    New sub here watching previous videos I like how you talk about being efficient I'm always trying to find new ways to do that. Being a one man crew is impressive

  • @kiwdwks
    @kiwdwks 4 года назад +1

    You always have great tips to share. Appreciate it!

  • @Quickened1
    @Quickened1 4 года назад +2

    I've used a lot of that strapping tape on packaging. It is by far, the best packaging tape out there, now I have a new use for it too! ...and yeah, you're not gonna be cutting that stuff with a standard tape gun cutting blade...

  • @oupaswoodshop1325
    @oupaswoodshop1325 4 года назад +1

    Very accurate and quick.

  • @Pembroke.
    @Pembroke. 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic job thanks for sharing 🍺

  • @zackbridgman
    @zackbridgman 4 года назад +3

    Great tip with the strait line to remove the crown. Had this same issue yesterday.
    I wonder if the materials were shorter runs if you could run them over the jointer a few passes and then to the shaper with a chamfer bit and power feeder. Just thinking of how to do a large beam packages to increase productivity.

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад +1

      Anytime you can use a power feeder its amazing. But with tooling setup it might be counterproductive. I'm considering purchasing a 16' guide rail. Then i could just plop it down on any length and rip the bevel.

    • @zackbridgman
      @zackbridgman 4 года назад

      Insider Carpentry my next thought. Adding another 8’ track to my festool track lol.

  • @davidzwicker9988
    @davidzwicker9988 2 года назад

    Awesome technique!

  • @zooie69
    @zooie69 4 года назад +1

    nice one spencer

  • @deejohnson5163
    @deejohnson5163 4 года назад +1

    Always glad to see your vids.

  • @stephank6997
    @stephank6997 4 года назад +4

    It looks like you have an extensive arsenal of track/plunge saws. How about a tool comparison between your favorite Festool vs the Mafell that was used in this video?

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад +1

      It's definitely on my list to do a track saw comparison video. I have 5, and I'd definitely do things different if I could go back.

    • @keving8682
      @keving8682 4 года назад

      @@InsiderCarpentry I would love to see your comparison review of track saws. Have been planning to get the Mafell and use Bosch tracks (same but cheaper than Mafell's branded ones).

  • @mmocny
    @mmocny 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the great tips, but personally I created a rip sled for my table saw (clamp down board with the crown part overhanging).
    My table saw is 12 inch blade, so even at 45deg I have room for the sled, but you could rip a straight edge first, then pass with miter. Cheers.

  • @Matasky2010
    @Matasky2010 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video, I was actually searching your beam videos yesterday to see the exact process you used to get that long straight edge. Having to move the guides to finish the cut is not ideal but I guess it gets the job done (Not sure if joining a 3rd guide rail would offer much/any advantage)...

  • @mlctesting6732
    @mlctesting6732 Год назад +1

    great idea

  • @richtapper476
    @richtapper476 4 года назад +2

    Another Great video!! How about a shop tour next?

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад

      That's definitely on the list of videos I want to do.

  • @mitchelldecker6128
    @mitchelldecker6128 3 года назад +1

    You are awsome,,,,,,. Thank you

  • @adamarcher5871
    @adamarcher5871 3 года назад

    Instead of a track saw would a jointer work? I’m new to the woodworking. Starting small so far but want to expand my knowledge. Love your Newell posts. Want to do this in my house now

  • @Valmorphanator
    @Valmorphanator 7 месяцев назад +1

    Got excited to try this unfortunately my menards track saw only goes to 45.

  • @robertbamford8266
    @robertbamford8266 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for video. Great technique! Should work for a four sided post or leg (spacers glued in place). Well explained. Can’t say enough positive about Jessem Stock Guides. I put them on the upgraded Biesemeyer fence on my old Craftsman table saw - no riving knife, no effective splitter, useless blade guard with kickback pawls. I also use a magnetic feather board. (BTW supper vs. dinner leads to an interesting discussion.) Thanks again.

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад +1

      Haha! I am a defender of "supper". My wife and kids try and use "dinner" and I hate the word. LOL

    • @robertbamford8266
      @robertbamford8266 4 года назад +1

      Insider Carpentry And then there’s Snoopy. Somehow “Dinner time, dinner time, din, din, dinner time.” just doesn’t make it.

  • @gregorylondos534
    @gregorylondos534 4 года назад +2

    You can actually try to 3 inch wavy packing tape it gives more surface area to grip specially around the microphones rather than having a 1 inch I have an inch and a half on each side or surface area to grip the surface of the work. Just a suggestion Greg

  • @edgarbarron6689
    @edgarbarron6689 2 года назад +1

    Thans for the tips

  • @seabass7239
    @seabass7239 2 года назад +1

    Love the method used it many times. We're doing a job now where the room is 24 ft long in the direction of the box beams. Obviously we can't build a box beam that long and install it and get tight joints to the walls on either end so we're going to have to two piece them. What is your advice on a good method to join them together. I've thought about just square button them with biscuits or a peg system but I'm afraid you're going to see The Joint. I thought about possibly a shiplap looking joint etc. Your expert thoughts would be appreciated

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  2 года назад +1

      Typically I'd just be doing a standard but joint. And do my best to grain/color match the splice.

  • @randallgress9944
    @randallgress9944 4 года назад +2

    I saw your video and have used this myself in the past. It works great. Just one question, when you set the angle on the saw you made it for 45.5 degrees rather than 45. Is there a reason for that? Thanks and good work.

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад

      Ensures the outside corner comes together tight.

  • @fergusrb
    @fergusrb 10 месяцев назад

    I could have sworn on one of your other videos you said to use 46 degrees for your miter. Does that help with the burnishing of the edge to close up any gaps?

  • @garrettlund
    @garrettlund 4 года назад

    Awesome video as always!! Hope you and the family are doing good!

  • @Jddlincoln
    @Jddlincoln 4 года назад +3

    Is that the maefel track saw? If so how do you like it? Love the content. Learn something new every video.

    • @Matlock69
      @Matlock69 4 года назад

      I was thinking the same thing.

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад +1

      It is. I love it except that it doesn't line up with festool guide rails when beveled.

  • @jefferyholland
    @jefferyholland 4 года назад +2

    If you are cutting off 3/8 when cutting on your chalk line, how do you still end up with 5 1/2 inside dimension? I would imagine that depending on the quality of the lumber you might have to make adjustments on the blocking. Thanks for posting this as I have in the past always used clamps and pin nails for building folded miters.

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад +1

      I fudged my cut over a bit both ways and had to shave 1/16 off a couple of the 5-1/2” blocks.

  • @casycasy5199
    @casycasy5199 4 года назад +2

    what track saw is that red body on a festoon track? id love to see a video of your shop love that vac system over head you have

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад

      Its a mafell. Thanks I'll definitely try and do a shop tour this winter sometime.

  • @benl6028
    @benl6028 2 года назад

    Great Video, would you do anything different if it was for an exterior beam wrap?

  • @royr327
    @royr327 2 года назад

    What brand of saw you are using with that Festool Track, it appears to work very well.

  • @Mr_Pereira13
    @Mr_Pereira13 4 года назад +1

    That was awesome

  • @markokany4854
    @markokany4854 4 года назад

    This is a really great video. Do you have any tips or things to watch out for when using a track saw for the mitre rip?

  • @JC-sm1vx
    @JC-sm1vx 3 года назад

    How do combine boards for longer beams? I have a 36’ center ceiling length. Great videos man.

  • @bigD578
    @bigD578 4 года назад +2

    Asmr packing tape removal at the end 👌

  • @SonsOfThunder229
    @SonsOfThunder229 4 года назад

    I do this with vinyl millwork base. Works well.

  • @christianwarther2971
    @christianwarther2971 4 года назад +1

    I'm a GC who is starting to self perform more finish and your videos are a huge reason I am feeling comfortable doing that. Do you think this method would work with hardwood plywood or are the veneers too thin, possibly showing through at the corners?

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад

      Depends on the plywood you're using and how good you are with the sander. With the plywood I use sanding through usually isn't an issue.

  • @rankingutteriz455
    @rankingutteriz455 4 года назад +1

    Oh, and a link to the string line in the video please! I couldn’t find it in your store. Thank you. 😁

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад

      I just added it thanks. You can find it in the video notes or the top pinned comment.

  • @louisokrent4717
    @louisokrent4717 4 года назад

    love your techniques & teaching method! Why 45.5 degrees?

  • @LewisRenovation
    @LewisRenovation 4 года назад +1

    Do you ever have issues with the miter edge running against the table saw fence? Messing up the edge?

  • @Bankfishindude
    @Bankfishindude 4 года назад +1

    Like we weren’t all waiting for the tape pull!!

  • @vitaliyg3516
    @vitaliyg3516 3 года назад +1

    Thanks

  • @sdwputnam
    @sdwputnam 3 года назад

    Hi, I'm 68 yo retired, have done some woodworking over the years and I'm in the process of remodeling my home I built and have lived in since 1980. I want to built and install and beams and have watched both your box beam and this tape beam videos. I like them both however I'm worried about the taping/gluing of the beams process. Would you say the box bean is a safer bet to go ? Looking for an opinion .

  • @allent555
    @allent555 3 года назад

    Great video, what material do you suggest for beams with a stain finish?

  • @benblackwell44
    @benblackwell44 4 года назад

    No hold down clamp on Festool track? When you moved the track, how do you keep from getting a discontinuity in the miter? It looked like you just aligned things by eye. When you say miter at 45 1/2 deg, are you measuring from the vertical or horizontal?

  • @dangotchey4639
    @dangotchey4639 4 года назад +1

    Do you have any trouble with tape adhesive sticking to the wood and causing staining issues?

  • @Gary-mq1hn
    @Gary-mq1hn 4 года назад

    I have struggled getting the correct measured cut width when each side of the board has miters. How do you align the fence, blade and work piece to get the right cut width you want? I can never align the blade with my marks when mitering. Hope that makes sense. Oh and I am talking about on the table saw. Thanks

  • @royalvarez6436
    @royalvarez6436 4 года назад +1

    Who’s your shop buddy? Second observation-nothing like working in the shop with the doors opened. Are the beams you are wrapping structural or faux? You seem confident that given the slight size differentials in the veneers that you have no concern about fitting them on site. Thanks again for the lesson!!

  • @solowfrful
    @solowfrful 3 года назад

    What was the saw you were using with the Festool Track? Does it have more torque than the TS-55 or TS-75?

  • @Zcasey1932
    @Zcasey1932 4 года назад +1

    Are there still situations where you would prefer the shaper with the lock miter bit?

    • @InsiderCarpentry
      @InsiderCarpentry  4 года назад +1

      Yes, I still like the lock miter for big beam and column jobs.