There are two ways the blade can be out of square on a table saw. Either the plane of the saw cut is not aligned with the mitre slot - OR - the saw blade does not run square against the arbour, that is it might have a wobble. It is important to check for both, especially if you have an older table saw or are using cheaper blades. Checking both factors is similar but subtly different. To check the first, mark a spot on the blade and check that spot both as far forward and as far back as possible. To check the second, keep the dial indicator in the same spot fore or aft, and rotate the blade to see if there is a wobble. While the dial indicator is on the saw table we may as well check both factors. The 44.9 trick is always good. One other tip is that if you are cutting mitres in hardwood the piece often will shift under the pressure of the blade pushing against it (either that or the blade bows as it gets into the meat of the cut. I kind of suspect that really). I once got a very slight bulge on the mitre face in hard Maple. Only when I started clamping the pieces down firmly on my sled and used a freshly sharpened blade with a slow cut did that go away. It seems that neither hand pressure or a stop are firm enough. (I guess I am OCD when it comes to getting those mitres right :) ) Thanks for the great videos. Keep it up.
Thanks for the tip of clamping down. I had that happen a lot on my contractor saw - so I think your right about the blade bowing. And that's a really good tip to check the arbor as well. Im going to do that.
And the magic advice that feels like cheating is get good tools and set everything up appropriately. I'd say I'm mildly irritated. I mean, as irritated as one can get after clicking clickbait
Enjoyed the video and attention to detail, including tips on checking for square. The 8:22 flew by in what felt like 5 seconds. The photography and editing were top notch. And I find your voice/accent soothing for some reason. Subscribed.
Dear Swede, thanks so much for this video. As somewhat of a newbie I appreciate the dialogue and process you went through to get the results you ended up with. Your detail are beneficial to someone like me! Thank again!
I’m really enjoying your channel. I don’t think I’ll ever make such a charging station, but that’s ok. I like seeing the tools used, how they’re used, and different techniques. I also like hearing different folks describe things. Different people different explanations added together usually enhances understanding. Like the first comment about the wrong angle. I right away understood the error of the comment. Frame of reference is always important. The discussion helped bring that out. Thank you for another great episode. I know we are in a very global culture these days where we are becoming more unified, but if there are any unique Swedish woodworking styles, tools, or processes, I’d love to learn about them.
So thankful that you specifically mentioned this can be done not just on the one tool you displayed in the video but others. So many times I watch a how to video and they show only one tool and never explain or show if the skill they are demonstrating can be done with other tools. Thank you!! 😊
There may be another dimension to adjust on your table saw. Once the blade is aligned with the miter slot, angle the blade to 45 degrees. Then cut a 45 on a a wider board, and push completely through. If there is a secondary cut off the back side of the blade, then the table needs to be tilted back to front. Check both miter slots. Insert shims on the bolts holding the table down, typically on the front side. When there is minimal saw dust raising from the back of the blade, it's in tune. Hope that makes sense. Happy woodworking.
I learned that 45 years ago. My dad's saw had that bad. Unlike the other adjustments it isn't something that is provided for in the build of the saw. So it requires shims. I guess some saws are made accurately enough that it doesn't mater, but it caused smoke on our delta 9"
RUclips put this in my feed and I'm grateful. I just got a table saw and never thought about about any of this. Getting miters and cuts perfect has never been my strong point but I aim to fix that. Thanks
How to actually, with any saw: - Cut a piece of scrap in two. - Flip the offcut and cut it again, removing the edge that you cut first. Now both pieces of scrap have the same angle. - Put the two pieces together against a straight edge to make a straight line. - Did it fit? Profit. - Did itn't fit? Adjust the saw and start again. You can use whatever you want (a square, an electronic meter, a cardboard box, your intuition etc.) to get it close to begin with, but the method for actually getting it right is always the same.
But also remember that wood isn't as straight as a metal square, so calibrating your saw with this method could actually make it less true. Your calibration would be specific to any minor warp in the board you just used to calibrate it.
I would use the wood cutting method as more of a sanity check to make sure my calibration with a dial indicator, square, angle finder, etc was working for me.
@@FMunixxx If the scrap is bent enough that you can't use this method with confidence, you're looking at the wrong side of the dowel. :p In seriousness, a bend won't affect it, because you're looking for an angle at the join, not a gradual curve. You're not relying on wood being straight, you're relying on a straight edge being straight, which by definition, it is. The part of the wood that you're gauging with the straight edge is the point where the two cuts meet. Points can't be bent, so you're good.
@@Meevious The gap in the joint is only telling if each half of the board is in the same reference plane both before and after the cut. However, unless we've planed and jointed the initial board to high precision and there's been no change in humidity since, each half is not going to be in the same plane after being cut. We see this in practice when we cut a bowed board into numerous smaller pieces to flatten it. Our bevel could be exactly 0 degrees on our miter saw and we'd still see gaps when butting together all the pieces on a flat table. We can't use these observed gap to infer that our 0 bevel is inaccurate.
Fantastic, I will try all the suggestions. I've been plagued with bad mitered joints ever since I started woodworking many, many moons ago. I like your idea for the charging station too.
Lots of respect to you for committing to a response for each comment. I've not seen anyone else do this in my RUclips experience. Excellent video as well. I like how clearly laid out the video is and compliments the voice over. It is clear you put much time and effort into your video. I've just subscribed! 👍
That was really wonderful to watch! I struggle with miters on non-box items so much that I simply don't bother trying to make boxes at all (my frames/boxes always come out looking shoddy). So thanks! I'll give your tips a go!
Thanks, great advice. There is something we call in Switzerland and maybe generally "fixing something to death" This is a translation in Swiss German it sounds much better. I made a box with miters.. There were ugly as .. I was so angry I cut off the corners with another 45 and glued new wood to the corners. Which then of course looked like an accident. 12 hours later "fixing something to death" the box ended up in the stove.. I am very happy for your videos - shortening my learning cycle by copying good practice ;-)
Again a very cool video. So it is all about setting up the saw correctly. I have learned to take a closer look at my own setup and to give this extra 0.1° to get a closed miter at the edge 😉 Thanks for that.
I just discovered your channel, and now I am filled with an overpowering desire to go obsess over the straightness of my table saw blade. I was gonna watch more of your videos, but now I won't have time... guess I'll have to sub and come back later! All kidding aside, I appreciate the video and advice. Keep it up!
The other secret is: When the blade is tilted, it pulls the workpiece sideways, tending to throw off the bevel. This is even a bigger problem with miters. My miter gauge has holes allowing me to screw in a larger back-stop. If that back-stop has a strip of high-grit sand-paper glued to it, then the added friction from the sandpaper solves the problem.
Excellent advice. Personally I prefer the 45 triangle over the digital reader as I’ve found them to be non-repeatable. So, if you’re really serious or you’re using 500 dollars in walnut on your miter, use a triangle and throw away the digital angle finder.
@@angellas.1314 Generally speaking no. Using a triangle I trust, I know it's going to be 45. That said, I have on occasion left a small gap at the bottom to use the trick in this video. If you use the digital scale, you should always use the trick.
I use a digital every day and it's always been dead on. But that's the difference between a $5 angle finder and a $50 angle finder. You get what you pay for...
Great video, if I can offer some comments... 1/10,000 of and inch is 0.0025mm 🙂. When you kept the dial gauge still and spun the blade, you were actually checking if the blade ran "true" (didn't wobble). I'm thinking you should have slid the gauge (whilst it was in the track) across the face of the blade to check that the blade is parallel to the track. Very well presented 👍
Good observation, but I'm guessing that he has already done that, and that in his mind everyone one else has done that already as well when they set up their saws. That's the first thing that I do, so I think that he just wants to check for blade wobble which can happen when you overheat/overuse a blade. I actually thought he was going to build a miter sled which takes care of the issues that most have with them. Instead he built a friggin charging station :-)
Good advice! As an experiment I tried doing white primed architraves but exaggerated and even they fill much nicer with the internal gap rather than the external gap. I then decided I'd set up my saw precisely for any subsequent mitres that would be visible. Much better results!
I am a beginner an amateur in woodworking but i think the problem starts at 5:07, when you start tillting the blade. Experienced woodworkers recomends to leave the blade vertical and build a sled that will hold the material to 45 degrees (or 44,9). You have all my admiration for this video, i like very much the way you tell the story. Thanks and good luck.
That would be good for certain things, like picture frames for instance. If your cutting wider pieces of wood your dependent on the blade height. The way I make it you can cut - theoretically as wide as you want. Thanks for watching!
@@TheSwedishMaker thanks for your answer, i'm talking about something like this: ruclips.net/user/shortsj_R7QfT8ZIg ruclips.net/video/2oDl6hfBlR8/видео.html cheers
A very well explained video for all to enjoy. Something I would add to the discussion around cutting a 45 degree angle is an error in measuring that creates the need to go "just past" 45 degrees. The digital device used for measuring angles is displaying the angle created between the table saw surface and blade-body instead of between the table saw surface and blade-teeth. As shown in the video, the blade would need to rotate an additional small amount to account for how the teeth extend past the blade-body. At the same time, a small right-angle was shown on the underside of the blade, leaving a gap at the bottom. Instead of focusing on the gap, a speed square with a 45 degree side can be used to have the blade-teeth just kiss the 45 degree side as they pass by, insuring the underside (or left side, as shown in the video) is now set to 45 degrees at the plane of rotation for the teeth. Both sides should, in theory, then be set to 45 degrees at that point; but, as we often see, where theory meets reality there is frequently a gap, and hence the need for videos like this to help close that gap physically and geometrically. Thank you!
Great video, I never thought of under cutting the 45 at 44.9. Make it easier because usually you will not see the inside corner up close. Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely loved watching this video! First time finding your channel, and you covered so many things I'm interested in (woodworking, table saw, precision, 3D Printing, charing stations!). Subscribed straight away, and am looking forward to checking out your other vids. Great work (and nicely filmed!)
I imagine wood filling and/or wood glue on the inner ends will help with providing strength to it. Staples also help give extra support. I make stretch boards for paintings, and also the frame. With the frame I need to be more accurate, however this is an eloquent solution for stretch boards. Thank you.
I really enjoyed checking out your RUclips channel! I'm having a tough time focusing on my work right now, and I just can't seem to muster the confidence to film videos in my workshop garage. The funny thing is, I've got all these power tools and accessories, but I've never actually completed a project. I'm not even sure how to explain it anymore!
You're shifting the flaw (gap) to the unseen edge. Smart. I would also add that when you're checking the table saw blade keep in mind that when the motor is running the blade tends to move away from the motor (known as End Play / Run Out), you can measure this with a dial indicator and adjust your cuts to account for it.
If you have a jobsite tablesaw such as the Dewalt DW745 you might notice the miter slots aren't even, they vary in width from front to back, the top surface isn't flat and although you can make some adjustments it's never going to be spot on. Which is why measuring the results of the cut (along with sleds) rather than measuring the machine might be a better approach. Deflection though is still something to consider, depending on density of material. Because of these sort of issues and not having a cabinet saw I've started to cut mine by hand. Thanks for the vid!
Every comment?!?! That's awesome mate! Oh, and so is your presentation. I kinda thought that's the fix you were aiming at, but you really did present in a highly creative and informational way. Well done!
Looks like it's factory-dyed MDF, there are several brands available - Black Diamond, Valchromat, and a few others. It's a bit pricey - project size pieces of 3/4" are $7 to $10/sf. I guess full sheets will be a little more reasonably priced but a quick google search didn't turn up a definitive price for that
Long mitres work so well with the track saw as the weight is all on the product. Or a clamp down jig for the panel saw. Either way you are spot on by having a tiny gap on the inside. The way I see it is that it’s somewhere for the glue to go so it doesn’t force the front out
First video of yours that has come up for me and I very much like the method of presentation. I’ll watch a couple more and subscribe. I’ve been woodworking since way before you were born (I’d say I’ve been serious for over 45 years but it’s probably nearer 60 since I first tried the hobby). Everything but everything has changed in that time except for the mental attributes of patience and precision. A couple of points. Firstly, I don’t trust those angle cubes to be that accurate, I think they state plus or minus 0.2 degrees? Anyway, I might be nuts but I will either use 2 different cubes and hope the average is accurate or test cut. Secondly, I always use an auxiliary, sacrificial fence to back up the piece I’m cutting so that the “off it” doesn’t vary from the desired angle by falling away. Necessary? I think so but I’m not taking the chance!
I found your preparation steps and explanations of what you didn't like to be as instructional as your advice on fixing miters. Cutting the angle sharper than 45° deforms the wood slightly to mate evenly (like the screwdriver fix but better) , even when the square is racked a little. Thank you! I wondered why you attached all your charging pockets to the outside of the box, though.
Tough question. It might be a recent thing I made with my daughter - it's only posted on my instagram - but we made a bird house together. Thanks a lot!
Riktigt bra idé att ha en håltavla för att kunna variera skräddarsydda hållare på sin laddstation. Tack för den idén. Jag lånar den och modifierar den till min egen laddstation!
There's an additional thing to be careful of when using the digital miter gauge to help tilt the blade to 45° (or 49.9°), one which is a bit hard to describe. I think (but am not sure) that the angle of tilt would be inaccurate if the gauge is twisted with respect to the blade, by not being placed on the blade so the long axis of the gauge lies along (or parallel to) the radius line of the blade extending from the center of the blade to its highest point above the tablesaw top. (Imagine tilting the gauge back when it's on the table saw top, then attaching it to the vertical blade in the same orientation. This would throw off the angle measurement when the blade is tilted.) There is bound to be a clearer way of describing the issue than what I just gave though!
Sorry to tell you this, but you've gone the wrong way. By going under 45 degrees you will have an opening on the outside of the mitre. You always cut mitres at around 45.5 degrees ish, not 44.9 degrees, this way at 45.5 degrees the outside of the mitre will be touching and the inside may have an extremely tiny gap. You increase the angle to close the outside of the mitre, not decrease.
Well if you measure 44.9° from the outside edge then you get a closed outside corner. (This is true, if you disagree you're misunderstanding me) All depends on your reference, no?
I think we both mean the same thing. The way I have it set up with the angle gauge and the table saw - it's in reverse - thats why I think I said "go a bit further than 45". It measures away from the blade.
As a DIY man, I've done plenty of rough work and have been able to cover things up. Lately I've been building a little more meticulous items and this video came at the right time. I'll start working with the current hand tools I have around the shop, but I'll probably keep the pencil trick in my hat...or behind the ear... or that triangle in the workshop that seems to suck every other tool I'm looking for...
I liked it. And, the precision of the angles is really important if you do want to make highly precise miter cuts. So, I did not find it too long for the issues involved. Thanks!
This is good advice. However, issues involving wood moisture (noticeable later) and cutting the sides identically in length, not to mention blade selection, are all common issues that plague miters as well. I'm just an amateur and an old guy. My advice would be when you find something that works well and consistently, use it.
Great video and thank you for sharing the tips and tricks. I am going to use this method from now on but I am one of those who still going to be bothered about miters not lining up even though they are suppose to when cut at 45 degree.
I just came across your video, sounds like a good plan. My garage shop has gone unused for several years but now that I'm retired I've have been getting everything tuned up and started. I will give your suggestion a try.
I just learned from Jonathan Katz Moses, who learned this from Stumpy Noob, to cut the mitres on a router table using a 45 degree router bit (making sure it is big enough for the thickness of your material). Going to try this the next time I need mitred corners.
Hi, 👋, I want make a comment on what you’re saying, as it is already been mentioned a load of times before, another way to do perfect mitres is, depending on if you have a router table or a spindle motor, there is a router finger mitre locking cutter, and if you have a spindle mould, Mitre cutting block with finger joint, this one is quite expensive, but when needs must purchase, Over the years, I have used both, and I still have, Your charging station is a very impressive. Well done., cannot see any screwdriver marks on it. 😂, thank you for sharing your experience, How about trying this one next?, A compound angle., 😂, stay safe. Good luck, all the best for the future., Phil from the moulin France
Hi 👋, I hope this can be some help to you, There is a 45° router cutter you can get from CMT, It has replacement tips, this is what I will call the middle of the. road tooling, pricewise, if you have facilities for a spindle motor, they are cutter blocks that are made in the same way, but obviously a lot larger diameter and they do cost a lot more money obviously, because of my business I was using a German manufacturer to supply my cutter, blocks and tooling, they were called LEITZ they provide a excellent service they come to your factory workshop et cetera, and they make cutter blocks and router bits for special jobs, I’m afraid they are very expensive, but these are top quality machine tools, If you go onto their website, you’re about to see what they make , I was making specialist doors and windows, which they make the tooling for, I hope this is some help for you, it’s a pity that you are so far away as I’m sure you’ll be interested in my very compact workshop. I have now in my property in France, I have had a business back in the UK for nearly 50 years, and approximately the last 20 years I had a reasonable size workshop about 8 m wide and about 35 m long, and considering I was working by myself, I used to get plenty of exercise walking up and down in my workshop, especially if I couldn’t find a tape measure, I had anywhere between four and five of them. I normally leave them on my workbenches so I didn’t lose them., 😂, Phil
In germany and other EU countries, the table saw have a setup where the fence ad the backside of the blade is wider than at the front of your blade. This is there to procent back kick when the stock you saw pinches the blade at the backside. Also the cutting is done at the fronside of the blade. The only thing you should adjust is, if the fence at the backside is getting narrower than the front. What you REALY need is the blade front running 90 degre to the fence. And the 44,9 backcut.
You would find using Mylar packing tape on the corner is a better solution especially on long miters. Its main advantage is it does not stretch. The downside is it may pull some grain and require additional sanding. 3m 375 is the preferred tape professionally. Good luck!
So funny we in the prefinished trim installation industry (cabinet and hardwood trim installation have been over cutting outside corners and under cutting inside corners for years One reason is to keep the outside edge tight when the wood changes due to drying out.
this is actually a pretty common thing in engineering where we use a lot of negatives tolerances, we'll for example write "45° +0/-0.1" to say "I want this angle to be maximum 45° and minimum 44.9°", this is used not only for angles but also for dimensions and loads of other parameters in order to ensure that mass produced parts will always be able to fit together
Your video is so timely! Today I was testing my brand new Incra 1000HD miter gauge for making a perfect 4” square from four pieces of stock. Needless to say, results were good but not perfect, even though the miter gauge was perfectly square to the table saw blade and the blade had nominal runout .008 to the miter slot. Drives me crazy. I will make your recommended adjustment and look forward to closing those annoying gaps! Thanks! Not a fan of the screwdriver cheat.
Great video and awesome advice. Additionally, I love your shop aesthetic / style, so clean and sharp looking with the dark accents. How long did it take you to get your shop space to look this good?
If you deliberately introduce a gap to the joint aren’t you significantly reducing the strength of the joint because the two surfaces will not fully touch each other because of the deliberate gap???? Please respond if I am incorrect
But will he actually answer every comment? I see a few with no reply, i am disappointed in the lack of follow through but very happy with the video itself! Great tips!
My approach always gets me perfect miters and my thought is why depend on resetting the saw angle. Leave the saw at a perfect 90 and don’t mess with it. I built a 45 degree sled that runs in the track instead. Clamps hold the work in place. I’ve never had a bad miter and no fiddling with the saw angle.
5:41 you fine tune it with a dovetail saw, then perfect it with a shooting board. Wile table saws and power tools are a nice way to get you in the ballpark, all the adjustments you make on the table saw do not correct blade deflection and runout. Even machinist have to fine tune the last cut. If your splitting hairs you need tools that can split hairs.
Did it with an ol' makita circular saw this week at dead 45. I think the tight painters tape is the one that actually did the job. And the str8 edge I was using, naturally.
Looking awesome 👍😎. And the miter tips and project is cool too 😅. I'll need to get some of your gauges and stuff for the table saw. Can you just remind me of your affiliate link?
If you do mitres with a mitre saw the cut piece doesn't slide into the blade and problem is solved. Tablesaw requires grip on both pieces, that's tricky. With mitresaw you can just secure it down on both ends.
Here is what is going on: miters in wood may be a perfect 45 when cut, but when glue hits them the wood expands slighty in an obtuse way and they are no longer 45. Depending on the size or proportions of the stock, using a clamping method that applies pressure directly across the miter instead of a band clamp will hold them shut while the glue dries, and they shrink back into shape. Those C- shaped wire spring clamps are usually up to the task, and of course angled temporary glue blocks and screw clamps will do the same with even more pressure. My shopmate Michael Clark taught me to glue up picture frames one joint at a time, maybe leaving the last for later when cured glue and moisture equalization had closed the frame up more and brought the remaining joint back into proximity, or, if the proportions of the stock permitted flexibility, then just squeezing it shut in the same glue operation. Nothing wrong with the method you described though, but be advised that those overly sharp 45's will have put the frame or box into a state of tension more or less permanently after drying, waiting for a weakness somewhere, sometime to give way.
As someone who is married to an English as a Second Language person, I want to compliment your English. You even managed a bit of alliteration, cleverly done. Oh yeah and the woodworking stuff was cool too. I've been making tissue box covers, and a glued miter joint actually takes me less time than nailed butt joints. I think that's pretty cool.
I understand your tip and see how it will help. I usually cut the miters then take them to my shooting board and make a very light pass with my hand plane. That’s how I was taught the make good miters.
Inte riktigt kommit in i allt med träbearbetning än sen vi flyttade in i hus med stor verkstad/garage, men denna video gjorde mig definitivt självsäker och mer taggad på att komma igång med finsnickerier 😃 Superbra video, Tack för att du delar med dig tips! ❤
My worst miter: I'm making a frame and somehow I cut the angle wrong, say they are 42 degree cuts - leaving a gap when the frame in assembled. It's quite far off with a large gap, but I can't ro do the cut to square it up because the inside of the frame is exactly the right size with no room to cut more off. But I have a small spare piece that I can make small wedges out of and stick it unto the wedge/gap in the corners, yeah, the corners were a bit funky...but it was better than a gap. I was inexperienced and didn't want to buy more wood.
If you really want a perfect miter you need to use a plane and a shooting board, once you get it set up you will get a perfect joint every time without cheating the angle.
This won't work if you're making picture frames from wide material for instance - you're just trading one gap for another, and the gap in the face of the frame will get bigger as the width of the frame material gets bigger - and it will show even more.
Please adjust your miter gauge to be perpendicular to the miter slot and not the saw blade. Any slight inaccuracies in adjusting the saw blade to be parallel to the miter slot can be transferred to the miter gauge. The miter slots are the one thing you have no control over so everything should be referenced to the miter slot.
I truly like your channel. Your presentation is so smooth and draws me in. I thought you were going to do the 44.9 trick as I do this as well. My worst miter mistake was when I was making a liquor dispenser for a close friend. The frame and mounts for the dispenser was sapele. I was down to the last cut and some I moved my stop and cut it two inches short and you guessed it, I was out of sapele wood. I had to get more. Oh I was mad. Loved video gave great idea for charging station
Great, and very timely (for me) tip, as I am in the process of making several new projects that require using a 45° miter! However, a few of them will have both the outside and inside corners visible... Any good tips on how to make both edges as tight as possible? I know I'm 4 months late on seeing this video, but I'm still hoping that you'll keep answering all questions as you stated 🤣
Great video. One thing I missed when cutting the 44.9 degree angle. I assume the lower angle is on the side you DON'T want so the piece you use is 45.1? Also, assume you then have to create a new cut on the next piece? Sort of like squaring up each piece before cutting.
Burnishing the edge ia fine for moulding, but it only works on the edge and not the face. Plus.. in cabinetry we expect a bit more than trim carpentry, thats really only a step above framers anyway.
There are two ways the blade can be out of square on a table saw. Either the plane of the saw cut is not aligned with the mitre slot - OR - the saw blade does not run square against the arbour, that is it might have a wobble. It is important to check for both, especially if you have an older table saw or are using cheaper blades.
Checking both factors is similar but subtly different.
To check the first, mark a spot on the blade and check that spot both as far forward and as far back as possible.
To check the second, keep the dial indicator in the same spot fore or aft, and rotate the blade to see if there is a wobble. While the dial indicator is on the saw table we may as well check both factors.
The 44.9 trick is always good.
One other tip is that if you are cutting mitres in hardwood the piece often will shift under the pressure of the blade pushing against it (either that or the blade bows as it gets into the meat of the cut. I kind of suspect that really). I once got a very slight bulge on the mitre face in hard Maple. Only when I started clamping the pieces down firmly on my sled and used a freshly sharpened blade with a slow cut did that go away. It seems that neither hand pressure or a stop are firm enough. (I guess I am OCD when it comes to getting those mitres right :) )
Thanks for the great videos. Keep it up.
Thanks for the tip of clamping down. I had that happen a lot on my contractor saw - so I think your right about the blade bowing. And that's a really good tip to check the arbor as well. Im going to do that.
Dear Swede, this was a masterclass in how to stretch 5 seconds of advice into 8 minutes and 22 seconds without irritating your audience too much. :-)
Thank you! If someone says masterclas Im proud 😃
I appreciate the lack of a long drawn out introduction or constant repetition which often seems to be a common thing with US RUclipsrs.
There's so much irony here I dont know where to start
@@TheSwedishMakerhaters gotta hate bud, leave ‘em to it
And the magic advice that feels like cheating is get good tools and set everything up appropriately. I'd say I'm mildly irritated. I mean, as irritated as one can get after clicking clickbait
Enjoyed the video and attention to detail, including tips on checking for square. The 8:22 flew by in what felt like 5 seconds. The photography and editing were top notch. And I find your voice/accent soothing for some reason. Subscribed.
Dear Swede, thanks so much for this video. As somewhat of a newbie I appreciate the dialogue and process you went through to get the results you ended up with. Your detail are beneficial to someone like me! Thank again!
Hey! Thanks a lot!
I’m really enjoying your channel. I don’t think I’ll ever make such a charging station, but that’s ok. I like seeing the tools used, how they’re used, and different techniques. I also like hearing different folks describe things. Different people different explanations added together usually enhances understanding. Like the first comment about the wrong angle. I right away understood the error of the comment. Frame of reference is always important. The discussion helped bring that out. Thank you for another great episode. I know we are in a very global culture these days where we are becoming more unified, but if there are any unique Swedish woodworking styles, tools, or processes, I’d love to learn about them.
Thanks a lot! Totally appreciate it. I´ll think about if there are any special Swedish styles, tools or processes - thats a really good idea.
I’m with you there!
So thankful that you specifically mentioned this can be done not just on the one tool you displayed in the video but others. So many times I watch a how to video and they show only one tool and never explain or show if the skill they are demonstrating can be done with other tools. Thank you!! 😊
Hey! Thanks a lot!
There may be another dimension to adjust on your table saw. Once the blade is aligned with the miter slot, angle the blade to 45 degrees. Then cut a 45 on a a wider board, and push completely through. If there is a secondary cut off the back side of the blade, then the table needs to be tilted back to front. Check both miter slots. Insert shims on the bolts holding the table down, typically on the front side. When there is minimal saw dust raising from the back of the blade, it's in tune.
Hope that makes sense. Happy woodworking.
Thanks a lot for that tip! I will check that directly.
I learned that 45 years ago. My dad's saw had that bad. Unlike the other adjustments it isn't something that is provided for in the build of the saw. So it requires shims. I guess some saws are made accurately enough that it doesn't mater, but it caused smoke on our delta 9"
RUclips put this in my feed and I'm grateful. I just got a table saw and never thought about about any of this. Getting miters and cuts perfect has never been my strong point but I aim to fix that. Thanks
nice! Glad it helped!
How to actually, with any saw:
- Cut a piece of scrap in two.
- Flip the offcut and cut it again, removing the edge that you cut first. Now both pieces of scrap have the same angle.
- Put the two pieces together against a straight edge to make a straight line.
- Did it fit? Profit.
- Did itn't fit? Adjust the saw and start again.
You can use whatever you want (a square, an electronic meter, a cardboard box, your intuition etc.) to get it close to begin with, but the method for actually getting it right is always the same.
Nice tip!
But also remember that wood isn't as straight as a metal square, so calibrating your saw with this method could actually make it less true. Your calibration would be specific to any minor warp in the board you just used to calibrate it.
I would use the wood cutting method as more of a sanity check to make sure my calibration with a dial indicator, square, angle finder, etc was working for me.
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If the scrap is bent enough that you can't use this method with confidence, you're looking at the wrong side of the dowel. :p
In seriousness, a bend won't affect it, because you're looking for an angle at the join, not a gradual curve.
You're not relying on wood being straight, you're relying on a straight edge being straight, which by definition, it is.
The part of the wood that you're gauging with the straight edge is the point where the two cuts meet.
Points can't be bent, so you're good.
@@Meevious The gap in the joint is only telling if each half of the board is in the same reference plane both before and after the cut. However, unless we've planed and jointed the initial board to high precision and there's been no change in humidity since, each half is not going to be in the same plane after being cut. We see this in practice when we cut a bowed board into numerous smaller pieces to flatten it. Our bevel could be exactly 0 degrees on our miter saw and we'd still see gaps when butting together all the pieces on a flat table. We can't use these observed gap to infer that our 0 bevel is inaccurate.
Fantastic, I will try all the suggestions. I've been plagued with bad mitered joints ever since I started woodworking many, many moons ago. I like your idea for the charging station too.
Lots of respect to you for committing to a response for each comment. I've not seen anyone else do this in my RUclips experience.
Excellent video as well. I like how clearly laid out the video is and compliments the voice over. It is clear you put much time and effort into your video.
I've just subscribed! 👍
hey, thanks a lot for that - I appreciate it. And thanks for noticing - your the first one to notice.
Loads of comments without replies.
That was really wonderful to watch! I struggle with miters on non-box items so much that I simply don't bother trying to make boxes at all (my frames/boxes always come out looking shoddy). So thanks! I'll give your tips a go!
Thanks!
Love the new camera quality, added lighting and ambience of your shop.
thanks a lot!
Thanks, great advice. There is something we call in Switzerland and maybe generally "fixing something to death" This is a translation in Swiss German it sounds much better. I made a box with miters.. There were ugly as .. I was so angry I cut off the corners with another 45 and glued new wood to the corners. Which then of course looked like an accident. 12 hours later "fixing something to death" the box ended up in the stove.. I am very happy for your videos - shortening my learning cycle by copying good practice ;-)
thanks a lot! Sorry about your miters ending up in the stove.
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tldr, you can never get a perfect 45°. So take a bit extra off the inside to mitigate the chance of leaving a crack on the external corner
Thank you. I have trouble with miters too…and will definitely try this. Liked, subscribed.
Again a very cool video.
So it is all about setting up the saw correctly. I have learned to take a closer look at my own setup and to give this extra 0.1° to get a closed miter at the edge 😉 Thanks for that.
Thank you for watching!
I just discovered your channel, and now I am filled with an overpowering desire to go obsess over the straightness of my table saw blade. I was gonna watch more of your videos, but now I won't have time... guess I'll have to sub and come back later!
All kidding aside, I appreciate the video and advice. Keep it up!
The other secret is: When the blade is tilted, it pulls the workpiece sideways, tending to throw off the bevel. This is even a bigger problem with miters. My miter gauge has holes allowing me to screw in a larger back-stop. If that back-stop has a strip of high-grit sand-paper glued to it, then the added friction from the sandpaper solves the problem.
Why so unhappy?
The charging box is dope. Great advice and explanation of the miter angle as well.
Excellent advice. Personally I prefer the 45 triangle over the digital reader as I’ve found them to be non-repeatable. So, if you’re really serious or you’re using 500 dollars in walnut on your miter, use a triangle and throw away the digital angle finder.
Fair enough!
And do you leave the gap as he showed?
@@angellas.1314 Generally speaking no. Using a triangle I trust, I know it's going to be 45. That said, I have on occasion left a small gap at the bottom to use the trick in this video. If you use the digital scale, you should always use the trick.
I use a digital every day and it's always been dead on. But that's the difference between a $5 angle finder and a $50 angle finder. You get what you pay for...
Great miter tips! I will be these into use right away.... can't believe I'm been doing it wrong for so long.
Thanks! Hope it works out
Great video, if I can offer some comments... 1/10,000 of and inch is 0.0025mm 🙂.
When you kept the dial gauge still and spun the blade, you were actually checking if the blade ran "true" (didn't wobble). I'm thinking you should have slid the gauge (whilst it was in the track) across the face of the blade to check that the blade is parallel to the track.
Very well presented 👍
Good observation, but I'm guessing that he has already done that, and that in his mind everyone one else has done that already as well when they set up their saws. That's the first thing that I do, so I think that he just wants to check for blade wobble which can happen when you overheat/overuse a blade.
I actually thought he was going to build a miter sled which takes care of the issues that most have with them. Instead he built a friggin charging station :-)
Good advice! As an experiment I tried doing white primed architraves but exaggerated and even they fill much nicer with the internal gap rather than the external gap. I then decided I'd set up my saw precisely for any subsequent mitres that would be visible. Much better results!
nice to hear! thanks for watching!
I was just in Sweden. Beautiful there. Well done on the charging station!
thanks a lot! Yeah it's really beautiful!
I am a beginner an amateur in woodworking but i think the problem starts at 5:07, when you start tillting the blade. Experienced woodworkers recomends to leave the blade vertical and build a sled that will hold the material to 45 degrees (or 44,9). You have all my admiration for this video, i like very much the way you tell the story. Thanks and good luck.
That would be good for certain things, like picture frames for instance. If your cutting wider pieces of wood your dependent on the blade height. The way I make it you can cut - theoretically as wide as you want. Thanks for watching!
@@TheSwedishMaker thanks for your answer, i'm talking about something like this:
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cheers
A very well explained video for all to enjoy. Something I would add to the discussion around cutting a 45 degree angle is an error in measuring that creates the need to go "just past" 45 degrees. The digital device used for measuring angles is displaying the angle created between the table saw surface and blade-body instead of between the table saw surface and blade-teeth. As shown in the video, the blade would need to rotate an additional small amount to account for how the teeth extend past the blade-body.
At the same time, a small right-angle was shown on the underside of the blade, leaving a gap at the bottom. Instead of focusing on the gap, a speed square with a 45 degree side can be used to have the blade-teeth just kiss the 45 degree side as they pass by, insuring the underside (or left side, as shown in the video) is now set to 45 degrees at the plane of rotation for the teeth. Both sides should, in theory, then be set to 45 degrees at that point; but, as we often see, where theory meets reality there is frequently a gap, and hence the need for videos like this to help close that gap physically and geometrically.
Thank you!
That is very well explained! I agree - theory doesnt always meet reality but accounting for the teeth is a really god tip!
Great video, I never thought of under cutting the 45 at 44.9. Make it easier because usually you will not see the inside corner up close. Thanks for sharing.
No problem. Just stay above 44 degrees if your not measuring from 90 like I did in the video :)
Absolutely loved watching this video! First time finding your channel, and you covered so many things I'm interested in (woodworking, table saw, precision, 3D Printing, charing stations!). Subscribed straight away, and am looking forward to checking out your other vids. Great work (and nicely filmed!)
Thanks a lot! Truly appreciate it
I imagine wood filling and/or wood glue on the inner ends will help with providing strength to it. Staples also help give extra support.
I make stretch boards for paintings, and also the frame. With the frame I need to be more accurate, however this is an eloquent solution for stretch boards. Thank you.
Now then top quality fun video as usual. Excellent voice over and very informative I’m loving it
thanks man! Can't wait to see your videooooohhh!
I really enjoyed checking out your RUclips channel! I'm having a tough time focusing on my work right now, and I just can't seem to muster the confidence to film videos in my workshop garage. The funny thing is, I've got all these power tools and accessories, but I've never actually completed a project. I'm not even sure how to explain it anymore!
I actually learned something. Thanks and very well done vid and editing
Thank you
You're shifting the flaw (gap) to the unseen edge. Smart.
I would also add that when you're checking the table saw blade keep in mind that when the motor is running the blade tends to move away from the motor (known as End Play / Run Out), you can measure this with a dial indicator and adjust your cuts to account for it.
just want to say, you are doing a good job and i enjoy seeing your videos, keep up the good work
Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it
If you have a jobsite tablesaw such as the Dewalt DW745 you might notice the miter slots aren't even, they vary in width from front to back, the top surface isn't flat and although you can make some adjustments it's never going to be spot on. Which is why measuring the results of the cut (along with sleds) rather than measuring the machine might be a better approach. Deflection though is still something to consider, depending on density of material. Because of these sort of issues and not having a cabinet saw I've started to cut mine by hand. Thanks for the vid!
almost 10 Minute video to see this advice which is older then the ocean.
It black MDF. Hard to find if you live in the US
You not only told us how to achieve the perfect result, but also **why** the other methods do not achieve it, and I value that a lot. Thank you!!
Thanks! Appreciate it
That charging box looks sleek! :)
Thanks! :)
Every comment?!?! That's awesome mate! Oh, and so is your presentation. I kinda thought that's the fix you were aiming at, but you really did present in a highly creative and informational way. Well done!
thanks man! Appreciate it a lot!
5:40 Essentially set your blade to 44.9° rather than 45°. Hopefully that saved y’all some time 👍
Fine video. One question -- what is the material you're using? Is is blacked yes wood, or something else? In the video it almost looks like ebony.
Looks like it's factory-dyed MDF, there are several brands available - Black Diamond, Valchromat, and a few others. It's a bit pricey - project size pieces of 3/4" are $7 to $10/sf.
I guess full sheets will be a little more reasonably priced but a quick google search didn't turn up a definitive price for that
5:55 the rest is clickbait
Long mitres work so well with the track saw as the weight is all on the product. Or a clamp down jig for the panel saw. Either way you are spot on by having a tiny gap on the inside. The way I see it is that it’s somewhere for the glue to go so it doesn’t force the front out
very true - long miters on the track saw is really the way to go
First video of yours that has come up for me and I very much like the method of presentation. I’ll watch a couple more and subscribe.
I’ve been woodworking since way before you were born (I’d say I’ve been serious for over 45 years but it’s probably nearer 60 since I first tried the hobby). Everything but everything has changed in that time except for the mental attributes of patience and precision.
A couple of points. Firstly, I don’t trust those angle cubes to be that accurate, I think they state plus or minus 0.2 degrees? Anyway, I might be nuts but I will either use 2 different cubes and hope the average is accurate or test cut. Secondly, I always use an auxiliary, sacrificial fence to back up the piece I’m cutting so that the “off it” doesn’t vary from the desired angle by falling away. Necessary? I think so but I’m not taking the chance!
Hey thanks for contributing what that great advice. I have found the angle cube can be a bit off so using the miter gauge is a second check for me.
Great video, nicely narrated as well, good work bro!
you sure do use a lot of youtube filler though
thank you
I found your preparation steps and explanations of what you didn't like to be as instructional as your advice on fixing miters. Cutting the angle sharper than 45° deforms the wood slightly to mate evenly (like the screwdriver fix but better) , even when the square is racked a little. Thank you! I wondered why you attached all your charging pockets to the outside of the box, though.
I had the usb hub on the inside and then I attached the devices on the outside. Thanks for watching!
Let me be the first to ask you a question: What project are you most proud of? I love your down-to-earth style and videos btw!
Tough question. It might be a recent thing I made with my daughter - it's only posted on my instagram - but we made a bird house together. Thanks a lot!
Riktigt bra idé att ha en håltavla för att kunna variera skräddarsydda hållare på sin laddstation. Tack för den idén. Jag lånar den och modifierar den till min egen laddstation!
I wish this video has been a short of 13 seconds...
There's an additional thing to be careful of when using the digital miter gauge to help tilt the blade to 45° (or 49.9°), one which is a bit hard to describe. I think (but am not sure) that the angle of tilt would be inaccurate if the gauge is twisted with respect to the blade, by not being placed on the blade so the long axis of the gauge lies along (or parallel to) the radius line of the blade extending from the center of the blade to its highest point above the tablesaw top. (Imagine tilting the gauge back when it's on the table saw top, then attaching it to the vertical blade in the same orientation. This would throw off the angle measurement when the blade is tilted.) There is bound to be a clearer way of describing the issue than what I just gave though!
Sorry to tell you this, but you've gone the wrong way. By going under 45 degrees you will have an opening on the outside of the mitre. You always cut mitres at around 45.5 degrees ish, not 44.9 degrees, this way at 45.5 degrees the outside of the mitre will be touching and the inside may have an extremely tiny gap. You increase the angle to close the outside of the mitre, not decrease.
He's right.
Well if you measure 44.9° from the outside edge then you get a closed outside corner. (This is true, if you disagree you're misunderstanding me)
All depends on your reference, no?
I think we both mean the same thing. The way I have it set up with the angle gauge and the table saw - it's in reverse - thats why I think I said "go a bit further than 45". It measures away from the blade.
It depends on if u start from 0 or 90 degrees. As long u mitre a tiny bit more than 45 from ure zero U'll be fine
Perfectly explained - thanks!
As a DIY man, I've done plenty of rough work and have been able to cover things up. Lately I've been building a little more meticulous items and this video came at the right time. I'll start working with the current hand tools I have around the shop, but I'll probably keep the pencil trick in my hat...or behind the ear... or that triangle in the workshop that seems to suck every other tool I'm looking for...
I've learned to never take advice from a dude with a man bun. Just my rule.
I liked it. And, the precision of the angles is really important if you do want to make highly precise miter cuts. So, I did not find it too long for the issues involved. Thanks!
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True!
I'm here ro claim my free reply and boost the algorithm.
The youtube algorithm and I thank you!
This is good advice. However, issues involving wood moisture (noticeable later) and cutting the sides identically in length, not to mention blade selection, are all common issues that plague miters as well. I'm just an amateur and an old guy. My advice would be when you find something that works well and consistently, use it.
It's called a coffin cut...
Really nicely produced video... Fun to watch, keeps my attention 👍👍
Great video and thank you for sharing the tips and tricks. I am going to use this method from now on but I am one of those who still going to be bothered about miters not lining up even though they are suppose to when cut at 45 degree.
haha you and me both
I just came across your video, sounds like a good plan. My garage shop has gone unused for several years but now that I'm retired I've have been getting everything tuned up and started. I will give your suggestion a try.
Hey! Thanks a lot! And congrats on getting back to it
I just learned from Jonathan Katz Moses, who learned this from Stumpy Noob, to cut the mitres on a router table using a 45 degree router bit (making sure it is big enough for the thickness of your material). Going to try this the next time I need mitred corners.
Im def trying that as well. Seems like a good idea.
There are 91 degree router bits especially made to do this.
"The screwdriver trick" is known as burnishing and has been used for centuries... A perfectly appropriate operation in mitre joints.
I’ve been using the 44.9 degree undercut trick out of necessity because my big orange box store saw isn’t nearly as accurate as your Laguna. Cheers!
Cheers!
Hi, 👋, I want make a comment on what you’re saying, as it is already been mentioned a load of times before, another way to do perfect mitres is, depending on if you have a router table or a spindle motor, there is a router finger mitre locking cutter, and if you have a spindle mould, Mitre cutting block with finger joint, this one is quite expensive, but when needs must purchase, Over the years, I have used both, and I still have, Your charging station is a very impressive. Well done., cannot see any screwdriver marks on it. 😂, thank you for sharing your experience, How about trying this one next?, A compound angle., 😂, stay safe. Good luck, all the best for the future., Phil from the moulin France
Thanks Phil! Im googling router finger mitre locking cutters right now! 😃 It sounds like something for me.
Hi 👋, I hope this can be some help to you, There is a 45° router cutter you can get from CMT, It has replacement tips, this is what I will call the middle of the. road tooling, pricewise, if you have facilities for a spindle motor, they are cutter blocks that are made in the same way, but obviously a lot larger diameter and they do cost a lot more money obviously, because of my business I was using a German manufacturer to supply my cutter, blocks and tooling, they were called LEITZ they provide a excellent service they come to your factory workshop et cetera, and they make cutter blocks and router bits for special jobs, I’m afraid they are very expensive, but these are top quality machine tools,
If you go onto their website, you’re about to see what they make , I was making specialist doors and windows, which they make the tooling for, I hope this is some help for you, it’s a pity that you are so far away as I’m sure you’ll be interested in my very compact workshop. I have now in my property in France, I have had a business back in the UK for nearly 50 years, and approximately the last 20 years I had a reasonable size workshop about 8 m wide and about 35 m long, and considering I was working by myself, I used to get plenty of exercise walking up and down in my workshop, especially if I couldn’t find a tape measure, I had anywhere between four and five of them. I normally leave them on my workbenches so I didn’t lose them., 😂, Phil
In germany and other EU countries, the table saw have a setup where the fence ad the backside of the blade is wider than at the front of your blade. This is there to procent back kick when the stock you saw pinches the blade at the backside. Also the cutting is done at the fronside of the blade. The only thing you should adjust is, if the fence at the backside is getting narrower than the front. What you REALY need is the blade front running 90 degre to the fence. And the 44,9 backcut.
You would find using Mylar packing tape on the corner is a better solution especially on long miters. Its main advantage is it does not stretch. The downside is it may pull some grain and require additional sanding. 3m 375 is the preferred tape professionally.
Good luck!
Ill try that tape
Nice video Pierre! This is a trick I've seen before but never wrapped up in such a nice little video package. Thanks!
thanks a lot Jason! Appreciate it!
So funny we in the prefinished trim installation industry (cabinet and hardwood trim installation have been over cutting outside corners and under cutting inside corners for years One reason is to keep the outside edge tight when the wood changes due to drying out.
this is actually a pretty common thing in engineering where we use a lot of negatives tolerances, we'll for example write "45° +0/-0.1" to say "I want this angle to be maximum 45° and minimum 44.9°", this is used not only for angles but also for dimensions and loads of other parameters in order to ensure that mass produced parts will always be able to fit together
Your video is so timely! Today I was testing my brand new Incra 1000HD miter gauge for making a perfect 4” square from four pieces of stock. Needless to say, results were good but not perfect, even though the miter gauge was perfectly square to the table saw blade and the blade had nominal runout .008 to the miter slot. Drives me crazy. I will make your recommended adjustment and look forward to closing those annoying gaps! Thanks! Not a fan of the screwdriver cheat.
I hope it helps - Ive shared your frustration :)
Thank you. In 40 years of woodworking, I never thought to cut to the shy side of 45 degrees.
Great video and awesome advice. Additionally, I love your shop aesthetic / style, so clean and sharp looking with the dark accents. How long did it take you to get your shop space to look this good?
If you deliberately introduce a gap to the joint aren’t you significantly reducing the strength of the joint because the two surfaces will not fully touch each other because of the deliberate gap???? Please respond if I am incorrect
This tip is awesome! Definitely need to tune up my tablesaw and try it out. Miters have been so frustrating, I just stopped doing them like you said
Thanks!
But will he actually answer every comment? I see a few with no reply, i am disappointed in the lack of follow through but very happy with the video itself! Great tips!
My approach always gets me perfect miters and my thought is why depend on resetting the saw angle. Leave the saw at a perfect 90 and don’t mess with it. I built a 45 degree sled that runs in the track instead. Clamps hold the work in place. I’ve never had a bad miter and no fiddling with the saw angle.
Good tip
Good solution, need to give it a try. I Had good result with long miters using the L-fence.
I havent tried the L-fence but that's something I want to do.
5:41 you fine tune it with a dovetail saw, then perfect it with a shooting board.
Wile table saws and power tools are a nice way to get you in the ballpark, all the adjustments you make on the table saw do not correct blade deflection and runout.
Even machinist have to fine tune the last cut. If your splitting hairs you need tools that can split hairs.
Thanks! I think Ill make a shooting board in the future!
Did it with an ol' makita circular saw this week at dead 45. I think the tight painters tape is the one that actually did the job. And the str8 edge I was using, naturally.
Wouldn't it be more astetic to use black wood stain instead of spray paint? What are the benefits?
Looking awesome 👍😎. And the miter tips and project is cool too 😅. I'll need to get some of your gauges and stuff for the table saw. Can you just remind me of your affiliate link?
Thanks mate! Yes the gauge is really helpful. Dial Gauge: shorturl.at/lKVZ6
@@TheSwedishMaker Just going shopping frenzy on Banggood - thanks!
also if you're using a mitre gauge make sure there is zero play in the tracks, otherwise it can twist as you are pushing the wood through.
If you do mitres with a mitre saw the cut piece doesn't slide into the blade and problem is solved. Tablesaw requires grip on both pieces, that's tricky. With mitresaw you can just secure it down on both ends.
that's true!
Here is what is going on: miters in wood may be a perfect 45 when cut, but when glue hits them the wood expands slighty in an obtuse way and they are no longer 45. Depending on the size or proportions of the stock, using a clamping method that applies pressure directly across the miter instead of a band clamp will hold them shut while the glue dries, and they shrink back into shape. Those C- shaped wire spring clamps are usually up to the task, and of course angled temporary glue blocks and screw clamps will do the same with even more pressure. My shopmate Michael Clark taught me to glue up picture frames one joint at a time, maybe leaving the last for later when cured glue and moisture equalization had closed the frame up more and brought the remaining joint back into proximity, or, if the proportions of the stock permitted flexibility, then just squeezing it shut in the same glue operation.
Nothing wrong with the method you described though, but be advised that those overly sharp 45's will have put the frame or box into a state of tension more or less permanently after drying, waiting for a weakness somewhere, sometime to give way.
thanks for the input. truly appreciated. I will try some c-shaped wire spring clamps
@@TheSwedishMaker, or consider an adhesive that does not load moisture into the wood. Polyurethane or epoxy are two.
Appreciate your clarity and great instruction. Thanks for taking the time to share your amazing insight.
Thank you!
As someone who is married to an English as a Second Language person, I want to compliment your English. You even managed a bit of alliteration, cleverly done.
Oh yeah and the woodworking stuff was cool too. I've been making tissue box covers, and a glued miter joint actually takes me less time than nailed butt joints. I think that's pretty cool.
Thank you!
Thank you for the education.
That is a really sharp looking custom charging station.
You do great work.
I understand your tip and see how it will help. I usually cut the miters then take them to my shooting board and make a very light pass with my hand plane. That’s how I was taught the make good miters.
that is something I want to do as well - it seems like the perfect perfect fix :)
Inte riktigt kommit in i allt med träbearbetning än sen vi flyttade in i hus med stor verkstad/garage, men denna video gjorde mig definitivt självsäker och mer taggad på att komma igång med finsnickerier 😃 Superbra video, Tack för att du delar med dig tips! ❤
Kul att höra! Stor verkstad är dröm :)
My worst miter: I'm making a frame and somehow I cut the angle wrong, say they are 42 degree cuts - leaving a gap when the frame in assembled. It's quite far off with a large gap, but I can't ro do the cut to square it up because the inside of the frame is exactly the right size with no room to cut more off. But I have a small spare piece that I can make small wedges out of and stick it unto the wedge/gap in the corners, yeah, the corners were a bit funky...but it was better than a gap. I was inexperienced and didn't want to buy more wood.
If you really want a perfect miter you need to use a plane and a shooting board, once you get it set up you will get a perfect joint every time without cheating the angle.
This won't work if you're making picture frames from wide material for instance - you're just trading one gap for another, and the gap in the face of the frame will get bigger as the width of the frame material gets bigger - and it will show even more.
Please adjust your miter gauge to be perpendicular to the miter slot and not the saw blade. Any slight inaccuracies in adjusting the saw blade to be parallel to the miter slot can be transferred to the miter gauge. The miter slots are the one thing you have no control over so everything should be referenced to the miter slot.
True! Ill consider that going forward
A good point shown in this video but not expressed is perfecting working methods on shop projects before going to finer work.
true!
I truly like your channel. Your presentation is so smooth and draws me in. I thought you were going to do the 44.9 trick as I do this as well. My worst miter mistake was when I was making a liquor dispenser for a close friend. The frame and mounts for the dispenser was sapele. I was down to the last cut and some I moved my stop and cut it two inches short and you guessed it, I was out of sapele wood. I had to get more. Oh I was mad. Loved video gave great idea for charging station
Oh man! That sounds like a real bummer. I get that you were mad.
That charging wall is super cool. Greetings from Nashville, TN!
hey! thanks a lot! it does actually do the trick for me right now
Great, and very timely (for me) tip, as I am in the process of making several new projects that require using a 45° miter! However, a few of them will have both the outside and inside corners visible... Any good tips on how to make both edges as tight as possible? I know I'm 4 months late on seeing this video, but I'm still hoping that you'll keep answering all questions as you stated 🤣
Great video. One thing I missed when cutting the 44.9 degree angle. I assume the lower angle is on the side you DON'T want so the piece you use is 45.1? Also, assume you then have to create a new cut on the next piece? Sort of like squaring up each piece before cutting.
Burnishing the edge ia fine for moulding, but it only works on the edge and not the face. Plus.. in cabinetry we expect a bit more than trim carpentry, thats really only a step above framers anyway.
agreed!
Tusen takk for kjempebra video!!! Kult tips og masse inspirasjon! FØLGER!!😀😎