You should quote the spell and press your DM for the information the spell gives you, from memory I know for a fact you learn the school of the magic so you can figure out the nature of the magic.
@@imaplaygames633 yeah I've had players depend on that so it's like. that invocation is really REALLY good. the only thing I was allowing that isn't strictly speaking in the rules is allowing an arcana check once the school of magic has been determined (use the same rules as counterspell for dc) to figure out which specific spell you're detecting. coz yeah you're definitely able to tell that the platemail you found has abjuration runes on it (it's enhanced. this is +2 plate) and transmutation magic on it, which the players get iffy about so, dc 18 arcana check and it's strahd's animated armor haha. it lets me run really mean traps on them and if they forget to detect magic (they almost never forget) and if they fail to determine what exactly is going on (which DOES actually happen) we get fun.
@@waffleswafflson3076 While that's a fun way of getting revenge at the end of the day tabletop RPGs are about having fun together so really you should work with your DM to get what you want out of the spell and that's vague information rather than a "Yes there is magic". If the issue persists then we cast the strongest spell Talk To Your Dungeon Master.
Do it, make the full video about message. I don’t even mean a short, message deserves an obnoxiously overblown video essay, maybe even a Netflix series
I love Green Flame Blade and/or Booming Blade on Rogue/Caster multi classes. They negate the loss to Sneak Attack from the multi class, grant you a magical damage type, and provide some AOE or Stun Lock options. Grab the Mobile feat and you're a speedy little stinker, rushing in to slash people then bolting off, and if they try to follow you? Zap!
You’re not exactly going to be very stealthy after that first attack though if you’re using booming blade… The sound of raucous thunder reverberating repeatedly through the entire building tends to be a little conspicuous.
GHOST SIGHT IS AMAZING its like xray goggles you can use it for help with lock picking by looking at the tumblers you can scope out a room theres so many options
Message is great! I had it on my Arcane Trickster. He'd scout ahead, message back points of interest and try to get people into position. He was an old man, kind of the Hudson to the Goliath of the leader of the team.
My first Bard turned into a Lore Bard/ Pact of the Tome Warlock (Great Old One). I ended up taking the Book of Ancient Secrets invocation, and the adventure ended at 11th level as a Bard 6/Warlock 5. I had more cantrips and spells than I knew what to do with, including Message. Eldritch Blast was the very last cantrip I took because I literally couldn't think of another cantrip I would want that I didn't already have.
Hexblade is the optimal choice however I'm partial to the swashbuckler/ fathomless multi class. Gives you a pirate vibe , and since you don't have to worry about using cunning action to get away you can use the tentacle of the Deeps to attack as a bonus action. Not as big as smiting or thirsting blade but with a booming blade on the rapier and the tentacle attack you are doing decent damage with very little resources
@@glitchking666 Thirsting Blade is an invocation available at level 5 with Pact of the Blade, it's not a Hexblade class feature. So that would still work for your multiclass!
@@glitchking666honestly hexblade swashbuckler is one that I really like, since you get the charisma initiative from swashbuckler too. It allows you to just tunnel charisma and not really have to worry as much about dex (since I think you get medium armor proficiency from hexblade too) That's really a preference thing though, I think there's a couple different warlock subclasses that go really well with swashbuckler specifically, which I love.
Nah I love Message, there isn't a single caster I have that doesn't have Message, I just love being able to talk *about* people, while I'm talking *to* them
this was my first long term character! played to levels 3-12 (10 rogue, 2 warlock) with booming blade + sneak attack on a thief + goe! (I had an illithid lich as a patron) tons of fun with mask of many faces and other mental magic abilities too 😊 youll have tons of fun with this build!
After witnessing the Bard in the campaign I'm Mastering use Message very inteligently to basically exchange information with players and NPCs over distance and in secret, also the Cleric and the Warlock chose to take it (after going Magic Initiate). They are basically always using it between each others like they have a walkie-talkie always available that only them can hear and this justify incredibly well the discussion they do at the table when not wanting to involve unwanted listeners. And it's funny how, as it's a one-person communication, they usually repeat their message to the third interlocutor while fingergunning each other and coming up excuses to justify their gestures to the NPCs present
Got to play d&d for the first time in years last week while visiting friends who live 12 hours away. I played a human fathomless warlock/ swashbuckler rogue and it was so much fun
I'm actually making a roguelock myself. I'm taking pact of the chain, eldritch smite, and making my pact weapon a whip with the slasher feat. I've flavortexted the whip as a yoyo to add a little humor, and taken a homebrew subclass called the parasite patron from Helianas guide to monster hunting, which allows me to take on a liquid form. Combine this with the inquisitive subclass for rogue, and I'm going for a very tactical feeling infiltrator/Frontline skirmisher
Utility Warlock might also be the best option for a Barbarian/spellcaster multiclass. Warlock subclasses and Invocations often give useful abilities that aren't spells, allowing you to use them during a rage.
extremely cool thematically. you don't get a lot of slots anyway and could be spending your spells on out of combat stuff too. it's not horrible. wait, couldn't you cast shield while raging? hexblades get shield. I know a lot of people are tired of that but. they *do* get it. I think I'd like to see a hexblade/zealot or undead/ancestor. thank you for that cool idea. if you ever try it and remember this, I'd love to hear about it.
RAW, you can't cast or concentrate on spells while your rage is active. My current build (not yet tested in play, and built to start at level 6) has three levels of Eagle Totem Barbarian and three of Celestial Warlock. Both my patron and my totem spirit are the same entity, a Ki-rin. Celestial grants a decent pool of bonus action healing that doesn't need a spell, and Eagle Totem makes it easier to maneuver around in Rage and not have to face-tank as much melee damage, striking from a slight distance with her lance. Due to relatively low Con, she also wears medium armor - an option Barbarians _do_ get proficiency in if you want it - and would ideally set up Armor of Agathys before hitting rage.
@@TwilitbeingReboot ah see I thought you only couldn't concentrate. Which isn't great but still has plenty of utility noncon stuff for warlock, is fine. hm. I think genie and fathomless might also work. hadn't concerned celestial. I like medium armor/shield whenever possible. barb gives you that right? so you don't NEED to take hexblade. quarterstaff is a strength weapon so, works with rage, counts as an arcane focus, is versatile so you can use with shield. you *could* do that, but, you aren't indicating you're having a lot of trouble or whatever and that makes me happy. the idea such a weird class is working for you and that you might be having fun makes me feel a bit nice.
Hexblade with assassin is underrated af, the overlaps are obvious, but allow me to draw attention to the celestial pact mastermind. If you have a party that reliably provides you with advantage in the targets you need to hit, this lets you assist and be more effective with your action economy.
I played a bard in my campaign and ended up as the unofficial leader due to focus on diplomacy and bluff (I was also the party's healer, oddly enough. Very support based) I made full use of the message spell all of the time for combat communication (relaying important info about enemy positions in large scale battles, and on stealth missions. Excellent tactical spell.
My brother was a skeleton homebrew class...I said he couldn't speak thinking it would create funny situations where the party would talk and he would be a great quiet-type character (strong or funny but quiet)..... Someone told me him message bc he was a magic caster and used that the whole campaign to communicate! It made it funny because a skeleton pointing at you and you are hearing deathly whispers (which was argued that: you don't need to successfully whisper to use the cantrip). I asked the dm...agreed. quite fun!
The roguelock I used to run was a former death cultist fallen aasimar. I used hexblade and phantom rogue. Went all in on charisma and pact of the blade and used a lot of smite spells. Throwing piles of D6s at enemies, but still with a lot of utility in my skills.
One of my favorite characters, who I sadly only got to play for a short time, was a dragonborn pact of the chain great old ones warlock. His name was Trin, and his familiar was a pseudodragon named Woundlicker. His patron was a half-born eldritch deity, who his parents and the rest of their cult tried to birth from its sleeping state, but failed. The ritual called for the energy of a divine being to be siphoned, but they were convinced that they could use a green dragon egg and birth an eldritch-infused green dragon to protect and help expand their forest enclave. Trin's parents used him in the ritual in an attempt to bind him as a human rider and controller of the dragon. Instead, the ritual failed to pull enough energy from the green dragon egg, so pulled the energy of all of the cultists, killing them, and still only having enough power to transform the eldritch entity into a massive, semi-draconic fetus, bound to the now-hatched tiny dragon, destined to never grow beyond the size or capabilities of a pseudodragon, and the boy, who had been transformed into his own dragonborn form. After feasting on the corpses of the cultists, the pair tottered off into the forest, learning to hunt and survive and use their new eldritch powers.
My most recent character creation was a fairy multiclassed barbarian/wizzard with the school of necromancy so i can bring back the people i killed by brute force as a small harmless looking creature.
This guy speaking my Warlock language right now. Not that Eldritch Blasty isn't also really good. And yeah people sleep on Message a lot, my favorite bit about it is you can do it to strangers and enemies. You can sew some real chaos with the right words and timing.
I was 5lvls Swashbuckler Rogue/ warlock (wanted Hexblade but because of disagreement with my DM ended up Feylock). Sadly I perished in River Styx at lvl 8, but this combo have a really nice glass canon potential. At lvl 10 you have Booming Blade + 3d6 sneak attack + maybe Spirit Shroud + Eldrich Smite and when you hit something... boy you hit hard. Taking different Warlock Patron kinda opened my eyes to different tactic because I had to focus on Dex to attack... But that's ok because spells I used didn't really rely much on my charisma. And as Tabaxi with his ratial features (temporary speed boost and climb speed) I would run into combat, flank, STAB! and run away (because Swashbuckler do not trigger opportunity attack if he attacks someone). Heh... Shame I wasn't able to draw his full power.
I've had fun going Arcane Trickster Rogue with Sorcerer multiclass. I use the Rogue spell slots for utility, since its mostly locked into that. And pick other fun stuff for Sorcerer. Makes for a versatile grab-bag of tricks for both in an out of combat. I've had even more fun as a Dex-built Sorcadin dual-wielding scimitars and using the street urching background for stealth and sleight of hand.
Warlock/Rogue combo is BROOOOOKEEEEEN. It is legitimately my favorite class in the game. 3 (or 4 for the ASE) levels in rogue, get thief, and spend the rest on warlock. You cannot go wrong here.
So! The third dragonborn artwork showcased here (the silver one) is actually my dragonborn Rogue/Wizard. He's a combination of an Arcane Trickster + Illusion Wizard, and also has the Mask of Many Faces Invocation feat. I commissioned Cindy to draw that piece of him a while back showcasing his ability to use illusions.
I literally did one. I believe she was a level 17 swash rogue and 3 celestial warlock, if I remember correctly. I had so much fun with her. Ma favourite drow
This reminds me of a Rogue I built recently. V.Human (Prodigy) with 1 level dip in Knowledge Cleric and the Skilled feat. At 11th level, I had a better swagger than an Elegance Bard, with a better version of Jack of All Trades. In fact, I was on average more reliable in skill checks than most of the party.
Utility warlocks are super underrated. Ik yall see eldritch blast and think "finger gun go brrr", but there are so many good invocations for utility, exploration, Stealth, social settings, and unique effects that could match a flavor you want ez. W for all the non-combat warlocks
I’ve done this! Roguelocks that play more rogue in combat is so fun, just be prepared for everyone to ask why you didn’t take Eldritch Blast because people won’t shut up about that for some reason.
mask of many faces + assassin for surprise crits. Use darkness or fog to mix up enemies and transform into their friends. I'd say you should get a surprise attack for that
Whenever I play Dragonborn I always play either paladin or fighter sometimes I do hybrid classes with them but most of the time I do mild hybrids like this commenter was asking about. Like sometimes I spec into wizard or warlock in a fighter play through just so my character can have the abilities listed in the video, or I have paladin mixed with bard to make that collage kid who plays guitar stereotype. XD
It also wouldn’t hurt to get armor of agathys . The rogues reaction to half incoming damage will make armor of agathys last twice as long , thus doing twice as much damage .
Don’t take pact of the tome, take pact of the Blade and the Eldritch smite and hungering blade invocations. Hungering blade is extra attack at home and eldritch smite gives you extra damage on the first hit and knocks the target prone allowing sneak attack on the second hit due to advantage. Not to mention with pact of the blade you get any melee weapon you want so a rapier or other finesse weapon is right there for the taking.
5 assassin rogue 3 draconic sorcerer. Quickcast booming blade then ready it to cast it with your reaction. Also by sorcerer level 3 you get invisibility which will help getting surprise on enemies from time to time. The guy said he wanted to be combat mostly and mostly rogue in combat. You suggested a more hybrid kind of build, which is also great and makes good content, but strays a bit from the target.
I've just made a warlock rouge multiclass of a soulknife rouge (well not yet but soon) and a raven queen warlock its a kinda bbc merlin esc setting with my charector being the handservent of another player who's a morgana esc charector (a sorcerer) that I'm trying to help guide into bringing back the old ways of magic being freely aloud not just the divine magic currently
Theif/ assassin rouge and pact of the chain genielocke3/4 with devil sight and whatever other invocation you wanna grab silence and darkness and misty step fear or charm person and you got a ton of utility and if u ever need to get out hop in your ring have your imp go invisible and fly you out of that shit.
Hey Cinder, I've been wanting to play an astronaut type character I have been searching for something like this for a while but I haven't seen anything I was wondering if u could help thanks also love the vid
I wanna make a 'summoner' character (I basically want to be a Pokémon trainer) but I'm not really sure how to do it. The earliest 'summoning' spell you can get is find familiar however it's not a spell that you can easily make a whole build around and the next time you can get 'summoning' spells is when you reach level 5 and get access to 3rd level spells and that's too large of a level gap (at least for me). So far all I can think of is to be a pact of the chain warlock and then flavour the subclass abilities to be 'summoning' something to do attacks. I could also flavour spells but that isn't what I want, I could also play as a shepherd Druid but that would significantly limit the types of monsters I could summon. Necromancy is also an option but it's not the route I want to take
Hey, im fairly new to dnd, and I'd like any imput on a character idea. I wanted to make a character that is basically Teddy Roosevelt a guy with a heart and mind almost as big as his bench press, specifically his hunting days where he would hunt animals have them taxidermed and donated to museums, I feel a ranger might fit this but I understand rangers are a bad class and the strong man idea might not work well for range. Any thoughts are appreciated. After making this comment, I thought of an idea for a ranged strong man, I don't know if anything like this even exists, but a harpoon gun used to reel enemies into melee range for the kill sounded interesting to me.
if you want to play a ranger, go for it! just ask your DM about using the version from Tasha’s cauldron of everything instead of the player’s handbook - the Tasha’s rangers (and especially the newer subclasses) are way better than the version of the ranger the internet likes to harp on. you’re right that rangers lend themselves well to being dexterity based, and therefore don’t tend to benefit a ton from having a high strength score. i don’t personally know a lot about making a strength based ranger work, but i’m sure it’s possible. otherwise, you can still totally describe your character as muscular, but if you really want them to be mechanically strong, you could look into fighter or paladin (oath of the ancient is the specific subclass that came to mind for me. its spell list has some nature themed stuff that could work well for a hunter character).
The party had a TPK the 2nd session after I joined but I had built a level 3 warlock to come in with n she had the infernal patron n pack of the tome. I was also planning on taking Magic Initiate to gain more cantrips n by level 10 I would’ve have my max of 10 cantrips. Knowing that her spells would deplete quick (even if they regenerate on short rest) so having tons of utility in n out of battle with cantrips was key. She had also just gotten infected with lycanthropy n my DM would’ve let me keep it n just have to deal with the fact I’d be extremely hostile when the transformations take over until I learn to master them n I might kill or be killed by the party. She was themed around having made her pact to gain immortality so immunity to nonsilver n nonmagic weapons would’ve been perfect. But that was the first session with them n I needed to survive the first transformation on the full moon to gain the effects in human form but that was over 20 days away in game n we died 2 days later to giant spiders cuz the party were idiots n despite wut my character would’ve done I stayed n tried to save them n died too
Dear sally, I want to be a divination wizard but I don’t know how to play them, while being mechanically effective but also add flavor to how my wizard plays out/helps the party. Do you have any suggestions/ideas?
I need help creating a half elf warlock preferably the great old one and I mostly want a warlock who uses spells to support others not just primarily damage
Am scorcerer but I wanna multi class to get more damage and I was either thinking rouge or monk and with rouge I’d use some magic armor. This might have just convinced me.
Hot take: spending all your invocations on Eldritch Blast is a mistake. Warlock gives you so much interesting stuff & E Blast is already great on its own that I personally can’t stand the thought of mainlining it
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I cast detect magic
Dm: Yep, that's magic
Oh, I don't know what I was expecting.
You should quote the spell and press your DM for the information the spell gives you, from memory I know for a fact you learn the school of the magic so you can figure out the nature of the magic.
Note that with the invocation you're not spending any spell slots either.
@@imaplaygames633 yeah I've had players depend on that so it's like. that invocation is really REALLY good. the only thing I was allowing that isn't strictly speaking in the rules is allowing an arcana check once the school of magic has been determined (use the same rules as counterspell for dc) to figure out which specific spell you're detecting.
coz yeah you're definitely able to tell that the platemail you found has abjuration runes on it (it's enhanced. this is +2 plate) and transmutation magic on it, which the players get iffy about so, dc 18 arcana check and it's strahd's animated armor haha.
it lets me run really mean traps on them and if they forget to detect magic (they almost never forget) and if they fail to determine what exactly is going on (which DOES actually happen) we get fun.
Thats when you ask him the name of every NPC you encounter for the rest of the campaign
@@waffleswafflson3076 While that's a fun way of getting revenge at the end of the day tabletop RPGs are about having fun together so really you should work with your DM to get what you want out of the spell and that's vague information rather than a "Yes there is magic". If the issue persists then we cast the strongest spell Talk To Your Dungeon Master.
Do it, make the full video about message. I don’t even mean a short, message deserves an obnoxiously overblown video essay, maybe even a Netflix series
I was genuinely surprised at how the eldritch knight at my table abused that cantrip, so yeah
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I could go for a 6 part netflix limited docu serise about the message spell
Most op spell in any fantasy world barring wish
I 100% agree with message. Just glossing over what it can do have me SO many ideas for my book!
Even only like 3 levels in warlock can add SOOOO much interesting stuff to any build, easily my favorite class
YESSSS!!! ANOTHER WARLOCK BROTHER!
I love Green Flame Blade and/or Booming Blade on Rogue/Caster multi classes. They negate the loss to Sneak Attack from the multi class, grant you a magical damage type, and provide some AOE or Stun Lock options. Grab the Mobile feat and you're a speedy little stinker, rushing in to slash people then bolting off, and if they try to follow you? Zap!
You’re not exactly going to be very stealthy after that first attack though if you’re using booming blade…
The sound of raucous thunder reverberating repeatedly through the entire building tends to be a little conspicuous.
Thank you for the advice man and im gonna be honest this feels so awesome actually getting an answer from YOU as a video
it feels awesome getting a question from YOU as a comment
GHOST SIGHT IS AMAZING its like xray goggles you can use it for help with lock picking by looking at the tumblers you can scope out a room theres so many options
Message is great! I had it on my Arcane Trickster. He'd scout ahead, message back points of interest and try to get people into position. He was an old man, kind of the Hudson to the Goliath of the leader of the team.
Message is my favorite cantrips followed by prestigitation and mending. It's not very useful in combat but damn do they shine during Rp moments.
My first Bard turned into a Lore Bard/ Pact of the Tome Warlock (Great Old One). I ended up taking the Book of Ancient Secrets invocation, and the adventure ended at 11th level as a Bard 6/Warlock 5. I had more cantrips and spells than I knew what to do with, including Message. Eldritch Blast was the very last cantrip I took because I literally couldn't think of another cantrip I would want that I didn't already have.
Conversely, if you want to go for damage, Hexblade, pact of the blade, Thirsting blade and Eldritch smite.
As well as Hexblade's curse for extra crit chances on those sweet sneak attacks
Hexblade is the optimal choice however I'm partial to the swashbuckler/ fathomless multi class. Gives you a pirate vibe , and since you don't have to worry about using cunning action to get away you can use the tentacle of the Deeps to attack as a bonus action. Not as big as smiting or thirsting blade but with a booming blade on the rapier and the tentacle attack you are doing decent damage with very little resources
@@glitchking666 Thirsting Blade is an invocation available at level 5 with Pact of the Blade, it's not a Hexblade class feature. So that would still work for your multiclass!
@@glitchking666honestly hexblade swashbuckler is one that I really like, since you get the charisma initiative from swashbuckler too. It allows you to just tunnel charisma and not really have to worry as much about dex (since I think you get medium armor proficiency from hexblade too)
That's really a preference thing though, I think there's a couple different warlock subclasses that go really well with swashbuckler specifically, which I love.
I love eyes of the rune keeper so much. Great utility.
Warlocks arguably make some of the best rogues anyways, so thematically this works well.
That actually sounds really cool. Definitely keeping this in mind if when I make a Rogue in the future
Nah I love Message, there isn't a single caster I have that doesn't have Message, I just love being able to talk *about* people, while I'm talking *to* them
Are you a sorcerer subtle casting it? Because it has all three component types
Message is the Goat. In the right hands the role play and problem solving it allows are unrivaled
this was my first long term character! played to levels 3-12 (10 rogue, 2 warlock) with booming blade + sneak attack on a thief + goe! (I had an illithid lich as a patron) tons of fun with mask of many faces and other mental magic abilities too 😊 youll have tons of fun with this build!
Pact of the Chain you say... and who's your Patron again?
Joey Wheeler: I activate my Trap Card Kunai with Chain equipping it to Garoozis!!
CBS, I bet you’d be the 16th best rapper the world has ever seen.
I like message also, it just depends on the character, but it can be incredibly useful.
After witnessing the Bard in the campaign I'm Mastering use Message very inteligently to basically exchange information with players and NPCs over distance and in secret, also the Cleric and the Warlock chose to take it (after going Magic Initiate).
They are basically always using it between each others like they have a walkie-talkie always available that only them can hear and this justify incredibly well the discussion they do at the table when not wanting to involve unwanted listeners.
And it's funny how, as it's a one-person communication, they usually repeat their message to the third interlocutor while fingergunning each other and coming up excuses to justify their gestures to the NPCs present
Sounds like a magic spy, which just sounds cool
Devils sight and darkness for sneak attack opportunities.
Messege once circumvented a major roadblock and fight in a dungeon I was running and I _loved_ it
Mask of Many faces is a must for this
Bonus points for ritual caster /wizard or cleric on that last build he suggested
Got to play d&d for the first time in years last week while visiting friends who live 12 hours away. I played a human fathomless warlock/ swashbuckler rogue and it was so much fun
I'm actually making a roguelock myself. I'm taking pact of the chain, eldritch smite, and making my pact weapon a whip with the slasher feat. I've flavortexted the whip as a yoyo to add a little humor, and taken a homebrew subclass called the parasite patron from Helianas guide to monster hunting, which allows me to take on a liquid form. Combine this with the inquisitive subclass for rogue, and I'm going for a very tactical feeling infiltrator/Frontline skirmisher
"Get weird" i do that on the daily lmao
I have a rogue sorcerer. Love her. Got that stealth and persuation getting her places.
I love warlock so much you can do so much with it so fun to build funny characters with
There's even one that lets you see normally in darkness and magical darkness. That is perfect for a rogue if you want to do scouting of any kind
Got the invocation to let me cast darkness at will and the one to see through all magical darkness up to 120 feet. Fun times.
Can't believe you didn't mention One with Shadows!
Literal perma invisibility for this rogue!
"you can't hide in plain sight!"
"WATCH ME"
Can't you cast silence to be completely undetectable other than truesight and detect magic?
@@DarkMark-cf1ec well if you enter a zone and suddenly go deaf you're not gonna be an npc, you'll know that *there's someone prowling around 'ere*
More like "TRY TO WATCH ME" 😂
@@prosamis"Huh I can't hear anymore....musta been tha wind"
@@Xazyv unfortunately since he's in silence he actually says "_____________________"
A swashbuckler rogue likes charisma as well, having that proficiency with both Intelligent and Charisma works well.
And if you take the Hexblade warlock you could buff your CHA and use it in combat. And the hexblade's curse go really well in melee fighting
Utility Warlock might also be the best option for a Barbarian/spellcaster multiclass. Warlock subclasses and Invocations often give useful abilities that aren't spells, allowing you to use them during a rage.
extremely cool thematically. you don't get a lot of slots anyway and could be spending your spells on out of combat stuff too. it's not horrible.
wait, couldn't you cast shield while raging? hexblades get shield. I know a lot of people are tired of that but. they *do* get it. I think I'd like to see a hexblade/zealot or undead/ancestor.
thank you for that cool idea. if you ever try it and remember this, I'd love to hear about it.
RAW, you can't cast or concentrate on spells while your rage is active.
My current build (not yet tested in play, and built to start at level 6) has three levels of Eagle Totem Barbarian and three of Celestial Warlock. Both my patron and my totem spirit are the same entity, a Ki-rin. Celestial grants a decent pool of bonus action healing that doesn't need a spell, and Eagle Totem makes it easier to maneuver around in Rage and not have to face-tank as much melee damage, striking from a slight distance with her lance.
Due to relatively low Con, she also wears medium armor - an option Barbarians _do_ get proficiency in if you want it - and would ideally set up Armor of Agathys before hitting rage.
@@TwilitbeingReboot ah see I thought you only couldn't concentrate. Which isn't great but still has plenty of utility noncon stuff for warlock, is fine.
hm. I think genie and fathomless might also work. hadn't concerned celestial. I like medium armor/shield whenever possible. barb gives you that right? so you don't NEED to take hexblade. quarterstaff is a strength weapon so, works with rage, counts as an arcane focus, is versatile so you can use with shield.
you *could* do that, but, you aren't indicating you're having a lot of trouble or whatever and that makes me happy. the idea such a weird class is working for you and that you might be having fun makes me feel a bit nice.
Hexblade with assassin is underrated af, the overlaps are obvious, but allow me to draw attention to the celestial pact mastermind. If you have a party that reliably provides you with advantage in the targets you need to hit, this lets you assist and be more effective with your action economy.
I played a bard in my campaign and ended up as the unofficial leader due to focus on diplomacy and bluff (I was also the party's healer, oddly enough. Very support based) I made full use of the message spell all of the time for combat communication (relaying important info about enemy positions in large scale battles, and on stealth missions. Excellent tactical spell.
My brother was a skeleton homebrew class...I said he couldn't speak thinking it would create funny situations where the party would talk and he would be a great quiet-type character (strong or funny but quiet)..... Someone told me him message bc he was a magic caster and used that the whole campaign to communicate! It made it funny because a skeleton pointing at you and you are hearing deathly whispers (which was argued that: you don't need to successfully whisper to use the cantrip). I asked the dm...agreed. quite fun!
The roguelock I used to run was a former death cultist fallen aasimar. I used hexblade and phantom rogue. Went all in on charisma and pact of the blade and used a lot of smite spells. Throwing piles of D6s at enemies, but still with a lot of utility in my skills.
My usually understanding of the Warlock is that it has such a rich versatile usage with multiple unique.... Eldritch Blast!
One of my favorite characters, who I sadly only got to play for a short time, was a dragonborn pact of the chain great old ones warlock. His name was Trin, and his familiar was a pseudodragon named Woundlicker. His patron was a half-born eldritch deity, who his parents and the rest of their cult tried to birth from its sleeping state, but failed. The ritual called for the energy of a divine being to be siphoned, but they were convinced that they could use a green dragon egg and birth an eldritch-infused green dragon to protect and help expand their forest enclave. Trin's parents used him in the ritual in an attempt to bind him as a human rider and controller of the dragon.
Instead, the ritual failed to pull enough energy from the green dragon egg, so pulled the energy of all of the cultists, killing them, and still only having enough power to transform the eldritch entity into a massive, semi-draconic fetus, bound to the now-hatched tiny dragon, destined to never grow beyond the size or capabilities of a pseudodragon, and the boy, who had been transformed into his own dragonborn form.
After feasting on the corpses of the cultists, the pair tottered off into the forest, learning to hunt and survive and use their new eldritch powers.
My most recent character creation was a fairy multiclassed barbarian/wizzard with the school of necromancy so i can bring back the people i killed by brute force as a small harmless looking creature.
Diddley doodley your idea is now my property
I have a druid/rogue that has mask of many faces from eldritch adept. Definitely pick that one if you're playing a rogue.
I really enjoyed my hospitality halfling celestial warlock. Really leaned into my tavern keeper hospitality role-playing. 😅
This guy speaking my Warlock language right now. Not that Eldritch Blasty isn't also really good. And yeah people sleep on Message a lot, my favorite bit about it is you can do it to strangers and enemies. You can sew some real chaos with the right words and timing.
I was 5lvls Swashbuckler Rogue/ warlock (wanted Hexblade but because of disagreement with my DM ended up Feylock).
Sadly I perished in River Styx at lvl 8, but this combo have a really nice glass canon potential. At lvl 10 you have Booming Blade + 3d6 sneak attack + maybe Spirit Shroud + Eldrich Smite and when you hit something... boy you hit hard.
Taking different Warlock Patron kinda opened my eyes to different tactic because I had to focus on Dex to attack... But that's ok because spells I used didn't really rely much on my charisma. And as Tabaxi with his ratial features (temporary speed boost and climb speed) I would run into combat, flank, STAB! and run away (because Swashbuckler do not trigger opportunity attack if he attacks someone).
Heh... Shame I wasn't able to draw his full power.
I've had fun going Arcane Trickster Rogue with Sorcerer multiclass.
I use the Rogue spell slots for utility, since its mostly locked into that. And pick other fun stuff for Sorcerer. Makes for a versatile grab-bag of tricks for both in an out of combat.
I've had even more fun as a Dex-built Sorcadin dual-wielding scimitars and using the street urching background for stealth and sleight of hand.
Message is a go to for me
dont forget a blade cantrip, extra dice and choice of a little crowd control or movement denial basically for free on rogue
I have a Kobold Swashbuckler Rogue/ homebrew Warlock I'm playing rn! The Patron is his dead Dragon lol
I'm playing a warlock/rouge in BG3 atm. Playing a hella fun spell sword
Last session my wife's character used message to basically rewrite my campaign.
Warlock/Rogue combo is BROOOOOKEEEEEN. It is legitimately my favorite class in the game. 3 (or 4 for the ASE) levels in rogue, get thief, and spend the rest on warlock. You cannot go wrong here.
Holy crap I love all of this
So! The third dragonborn artwork showcased here (the silver one) is actually my dragonborn Rogue/Wizard. He's a combination of an Arcane Trickster + Illusion Wizard, and also has the Mask of Many Faces Invocation feat. I commissioned Cindy to draw that piece of him a while back showcasing his ability to use illusions.
I built a warlock once that had twelve cantrips thanks to pact of the tome.
Warlocks are kinda slept on in the dnd community. And a rogue / hexblade is easily one of the hardest hitting non-bardalin character out there.
I literally did one. I believe she was a level 17 swash rogue and 3 celestial warlock, if I remember correctly. I had so much fun with her. Ma favourite drow
I did this. Swashbuckler Rogue x/hexblade warlock 3 for booming blade shenanigans. Worked wonders
This reminds me of a Rogue I built recently. V.Human (Prodigy) with 1 level dip in Knowledge Cleric and the Skilled feat.
At 11th level, I had a better swagger than an Elegance Bard, with a better version of Jack of All Trades. In fact, I was on average more reliable in skill checks than most of the party.
Iirc swashbuckling and a few other rogue subclasses benefit from charisma. I would use those :)
Utility warlocks are super underrated. Ik yall see eldritch blast and think "finger gun go brrr", but there are so many good invocations for utility, exploration, Stealth, social settings, and unique effects that could match a flavor you want ez. W for all the non-combat warlocks
I’ve done this! Roguelocks that play more rogue in combat is so fun, just be prepared for everyone to ask why you didn’t take Eldritch Blast because people won’t shut up about that for some reason.
mask of many faces + assassin for surprise crits. Use darkness or fog to mix up enemies and transform into their friends. I'd say you should get a surprise attack for that
The character i'm playing in my next campaign is similar to this, except the concept they're Paladin for combat and Warlock for utility.
Whenever I play Dragonborn I always play either paladin or fighter sometimes I do hybrid classes with them but most of the time I do mild hybrids like this commenter was asking about. Like sometimes I spec into wizard or warlock in a fighter play through just so my character can have the abilities listed in the video, or I have paladin mixed with bard to make that collage kid who plays guitar stereotype. XD
I'd definitely go for a darkness + devil's sight build if i multid into a rouge. Free sneak attacks every round if you have an off hand weapon attack.
Yo only need a finnese or a ranged weapon to get sneak attack so you can go hexblade and choose charisma over dexterity
It also wouldn’t hurt to get armor of agathys . The rogues reaction to half incoming damage will make armor of agathys last twice as long , thus doing twice as much damage .
I have a Hexblade/Swashbuckler build that's pretty silly
Don’t take pact of the tome, take pact of the Blade and the Eldritch smite and hungering blade invocations. Hungering blade is extra attack at home and eldritch smite gives you extra damage on the first hit and knocks the target prone allowing sneak attack on the second hit due to advantage. Not to mention with pact of the blade you get any melee weapon you want so a rapier or other finesse weapon is right there for the taking.
Get weird is the best advise
Hexblade swashbuckler is the only right answer here
It's literally Bob from the Adventures of Azerim series
That's a like to gettin weird in dnd
5 assassin rogue 3 draconic sorcerer. Quickcast booming blade then ready it to cast it with your reaction. Also by sorcerer level 3 you get invisibility which will help getting surprise on enemies from time to time. The guy said he wanted to be combat mostly and mostly rogue in combat. You suggested a more hybrid kind of build, which is also great and makes good content, but strays a bit from the target.
Im a drow arcane trickster, and ive planned to dip 3 lvls in warlock for the cantrips, 2 spells and devils sight to combo with my darkness class spell
My sorlock uses messege all the time.
I've just made a warlock rouge multiclass of a soulknife rouge (well not yet but soon) and a raven queen warlock its a kinda bbc merlin esc setting with my charector being the handservent of another player who's a morgana esc charector (a sorcerer) that I'm trying to help guide into bringing back the old ways of magic being freely aloud not just the divine magic currently
Theif/ assassin rouge and pact of the chain genielocke3/4 with devil sight and whatever other invocation you wanna grab silence and darkness and misty step fear or charm person and you got a ton of utility and if u ever need to get out hop in your ring have your imp go invisible and fly you out of that shit.
I wanna do like a paladin that forsakes his oath and becomes a warlock or smth
If you want to go sorc you could go divine soul for Knock and Silence so you can save money on thieves tools
I'm a hexblade/swashbuckler... Charisma baybeee
I'm planning on a Aarakocra Druid healer of some kind. I mainly wand to be a Aarakocra with a wolf or dragon mount.
Hey Cinder, I've been wanting to play an astronaut type character I have been searching for something like this for a while but I haven't seen anything I was wondering if u could help thanks also love the vid
I wanna make a 'summoner' character (I basically want to be a Pokémon trainer) but I'm not really sure how to do it. The earliest 'summoning' spell you can get is find familiar however it's not a spell that you can easily make a whole build around and the next time you can get 'summoning' spells is when you reach level 5 and get access to 3rd level spells and that's too large of a level gap (at least for me). So far all I can think of is to be a pact of the chain warlock and then flavour the subclass abilities to be 'summoning' something to do attacks. I could also flavour spells but that isn't what I want, I could also play as a shepherd Druid but that would significantly limit the types of monsters I could summon. Necromancy is also an option but it's not the route I want to take
I'm playing a Genie Warlock/Swashbuckler Rogue in a game rn
But how would you live without Eldritch blast it's satisfying
Hey, im fairly new to dnd, and I'd like any imput on a character idea. I wanted to make a character that is basically Teddy Roosevelt a guy with a heart and mind almost as big as his bench press, specifically his hunting days where he would hunt animals have them taxidermed and donated to museums, I feel a ranger might fit this but I understand rangers are a bad class and the strong man idea might not work well for range. Any thoughts are appreciated.
After making this comment, I thought of an idea for a ranged strong man, I don't know if anything like this even exists, but a harpoon gun used to reel enemies into melee range for the kill sounded interesting to me.
if you want to play a ranger, go for it! just ask your DM about using the version from Tasha’s cauldron of everything instead of the player’s handbook - the Tasha’s rangers (and especially the newer subclasses) are way better than the version of the ranger the internet likes to harp on.
you’re right that rangers lend themselves well to being dexterity based, and therefore don’t tend to benefit a ton from having a high strength score. i don’t personally know a lot about making a strength based ranger work, but i’m sure it’s possible.
otherwise, you can still totally describe your character as muscular, but if you really want them to be mechanically strong, you could look into fighter or paladin (oath of the ancient is the specific subclass that came to mind for me. its spell list has some nature themed stuff that could work well for a hunter character).
The party had a TPK the 2nd session after I joined but I had built a level 3 warlock to come in with n she had the infernal patron n pack of the tome. I was also planning on taking Magic Initiate to gain more cantrips n by level 10 I would’ve have my max of 10 cantrips. Knowing that her spells would deplete quick (even if they regenerate on short rest) so having tons of utility in n out of battle with cantrips was key. She had also just gotten infected with lycanthropy n my DM would’ve let me keep it n just have to deal with the fact I’d be extremely hostile when the transformations take over until I learn to master them n I might kill or be killed by the party. She was themed around having made her pact to gain immortality so immunity to nonsilver n nonmagic weapons would’ve been perfect. But that was the first session with them n I needed to survive the first transformation on the full moon to gain the effects in human form but that was over 20 days away in game n we died 2 days later to giant spiders cuz the party were idiots n despite wut my character would’ve done I stayed n tried to save them n died too
I did exactly that! Phantom Rogue 5, Hexblade Tome Warlock 4. I’m a tiefling tho, for the edgyness i didn’t already have.
Dashkin Feral Ronin!
Dear sally, I want to be a divination wizard but I don’t know how to play them, while being mechanically effective but also add flavor to how my wizard plays out/helps the party. Do you have any suggestions/ideas?
I need help creating a half elf warlock preferably the great old one and I mostly want a warlock who uses spells to support others not just primarily damage
I’ve always thought message was underrated and under-utilised so I’d love to hear your thoughts on it
Am scorcerer but I wanna multi class to get more damage and I was either thinking rouge or monk and with rouge I’d use some magic armor. This might have just convinced me.
Hot take: spending all your invocations on Eldritch Blast is a mistake. Warlock gives you so much interesting stuff & E Blast is already great on its own that I personally can’t stand the thought of mainlining it