Surely Blizzard Won't Mess This Up
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
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Players wanted Classic+ and got Retail-
Lol so true
I just want class balances with non of this extra stuff. Pali needed taunt and crusader strike. They went way over the top
@@user-sx8gn9uz4o class balancing kills the game and the group aspect of it lol
@@quetz6335 Umm you DO know that they needed those 2 Skills right? Like that's not an "If" on adding those, Without them they are complete dog-shit and could only be played as Healers.
Is the ability to play a Class, That has 3 Specs, But ONLY 1 OF THEM being viable, Attractive to you as a concept???
If you want to still keep things "Balanced" then just make it so the Taunt can only be acquired from Prot, And Crusader Strike only obtainable on Ret.
This would still make Prot garbage, But them not having taunt was just absurd in general lol... Playing a Paladin as Tank was just trolling in Vanilla because of the lack of it xD
shit, I would've rather just had a single 3-month dual classing season. I lost interest in SoD after playing for about a week and haven't touched it since
how else is Blizzard going to fund the blood chamber for Moloch under their HQ?
*GET OUT OF HERE ALEX…GO ON NOW…GIT!*
If they run out, they can just call Hilary Clinton
LOL
SoD started so well but the playerbase had died crazy fast. There is nothing in this universe that Blizzard can't fuck up 🤦♂
And the Owl God of the rich and famous, only the best golden statues for the magic birb not the cheap stuff
0:39 for a moment i though he was going to say "massive shout out to Raid: Shadow Legends for sponsoring this video"
I WAS ABOUT TO TYPE THE SAME SHIT LOL!
naw “this video is sponsored by Tarisland ” is so much better 😂
Dang. The PTSD is real
We're so cooked. This is some next level brainrot
@@kgamer142 true but is also the situation of blizzard, soon raid shadow legends will own blizzard... you can call me crazy...just wait
That isn't felwood, it's the corrupted area in Ashenvale at the very south east corner.
I think it’s either that or mayyyybe the southern most area in Winterspring
@@kwerby3285 if you watch the video closely, you can see the spirit of Grom with gorehowl. This is in the demon scar in ashenvale where he killed mannoroth. Pay attention lol
Yes it's the southern most corners of Ashenvale
🤓
@@kwerby3285 Its not. Its the ashenvale Demon Fall Canyon.
Blizzard not messing up is like a construction company fixing a road, it just doesnt happen
Absolutely @@x8Ghostyx
It only takes 10 years for the first fix 😢
10 guys have to watch the one guy working sir. This is the only way it can work
Yeah, their idea of 'fixing' an issue is to patch it up and delay the real problem.
haha good one 👍
I'm gonna be honest i have no idea whats going on here
I have never played wow but still watching this video. I also have no much idea what is going on
Basically everyone was hoping for one thing but blizzard is giving them another thing. Per usual.
@@Justin_7004 But they even said SoD is not Classic Plus. They're using it as a pivot towards Classic+ to see what players want.
same, but we watched it anyways 🤣
@@peek-a-boosplayers already told them what they want. And they dont give it
... They're gonna Fuck it up.
Why should they. Just enjoy the Game
They already did. Adding dailies for example. Imo was bad at tbc and doesn't belong to vanilla.
That's what I'm expecting too.
@@LeksiHDJust consume product and then wait for next product to come out
@@LeksiHDunfortunately I can't enjoy thier games anymore they became so bad its ridiculous
Blizzard: "We love 40 man raids"
Molten Core: [Stares in 20 man]
Source or be silent :)
This is an incredible change. Makes it easier for pugs by letting them take more in. Makes it more engaging for guilds as they can do 20 man. Perfect change.
its easy to get 40 random players, its hard to get 40 competent ones. so anyone saying 20 mans are an L probably would be fuming trying to arrange a 40 man if allowed.
@@zambiealex8473 thats where the problem is why u need to push the boundary of skill in mc classic mate wtf is that people have no idea how dog they are and feel like they need some retail sample where it's not even possible btw so its just a meta check
@@zambiealex8473 The problem is that you don't need 40 competent players for a 40 man, you need 20 competent players, and 15-20 players that can listen to simple, basic directions. 20 man leveling raids were a good decision, 20 man endgame raids are absolutely an L.
I'm impressed they made phase 4 with a tiny budget of (checks notes) billions of dollars?
I didn't watch the video yet
I have no idea what this is about
but goddamn it, this is the last chance for D4
😆
Surely they'll save Overwatch this time!
I think the dailies make the game feel like a chore.
and i bet raiding feels like a nightmare for you 😂
@@sticknbox6157 Why?
It’s like those daily log in bonuses in eastern/mobile games but worse and i fkn hate that shit
Because that's exactly what they are. Daily Quests that are practically mandatory get an instant "nope" from me. One of the worst things that happened to WoW and other MMOs. If you need daily quests to keep players engaged then your game is possibly just bad. No, thanks.
@@Nuggets0330 I believe he's calling You a filthy casual
Sweats ruin games, They are the 1% of a playerbase and any game that caters to them usually ends up dead. I agree with Asmon 100% on that point.
I honestly think it's bads that are being catered to just as much....blizzard seems to design around the top and bottom % of the playerbase...while the majority in the middle is put on a treadmill of literal trash.
I think the part that makes classic is the game is easy... but the socializing part is hard. There is enough to do to get people invested and then there is content that requires coordination with other players... including just getting to the dungeon. People constantly forget WORLD of warcraft people want to experience a shared world and challenges. When you turn the dungeons into leveled auto deployed into it feels like it's a separate video game.
Dailies are great when they are optional. Like the Netherwing Drake dailies in TBC. It's something you can work on day by day and nothing really happens if you skip a day or a whole week.
This guy gets it.
Yea, something cosmetic with maybe a bit of gold. They should have never become necessity to maintain a stable gold balance, and should have never, EVER been linked to any sort of meaningful gear increase. Maybe dungeon-level stuff for those still too terrible to complete Scholomance, but nothing raid level. They completely lost the point on what an MMO should be.
I totally agree.
As a casual player, raiding is just too huge a time investment - more 5 man dungeons/heroics is welcome. Just not sure I'm ready to head back to SoD and my SPriest.
Customer: “Surly Blizzard won’t mess it up again.
Blizzard: “Hold my beer.”
*breast milk*
Activision *
Why is it messed up?
@@cnh7262 Because they don't build roads like the Romans do. Built to last everything, including time and without needed maintenance.
You either die as a Classic WoW or live long enough to become a Retail WoW again.
Too true. You can see it happening all over again.
Blizzard: We can mess it up and don’t call us Shirley.
[opens door]
I just wanna say good luck and we're all counting on you...
10/10 reference.
"Looks like I picked a wrong week to quit copium."
@@delivererofdarknessshoguno1133 Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing farts [sniffs then falls over]
The hospital? What is it?
"Hey you'll get everything you already got a decade ago.. before we ruined all that you loved and paid for.....you just have to pay.. againandagainandagainandagain"
Same 20 year old game with a new coat of paint for a playerbase old enough to start having a midlife crisis. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Paid*
@@christianalanwilson434 You are so ironically right it hurts. Unfortunately I am going thru a midlife crisis but at the same time I'm also not playing WoW. I just watch Asmon videos and go about my shitty life.
@@christianalanwilson434I think them playing IS the mid life crisis 😂
@@floydohonetwo-ds7pe Thx.. my bad. Not a native English speaking person. corrected it ^^
A lot of what Asmons' saying about adding things is true, the game went downhill the moment every class could do everything. I'd take it further and say that alliance only having paladins and horde having shamans was a greaet thing, it caused a loyalty to your side and many fun moments where you'd chase an enemy player through three zones just because they're the bad guys to you and your team. Friends made during leveling, having to meet at meeting stones etc, these things forced an amazing community, if you were rude or didn't come to the meeting stone in time, kicked, if you were a legend and helped the warlock summon others at the dungeons, added and friended. These things forced great social connections and without them the game slowly turned to garbiage.
22:05 Did somebody say Thunderfu?.....
NO STFU we said WINDFURY
Did someone say ?
I love how Aggrend said "as fun as it was to skulk around crossroads with our alliance characters hoping for a kindly priest to mind control us for Warchief's"
AS IFFF, you know damn well people with two accounts had their own priests for this. He's the one that did it for his guild I would bet.
How is it they're literally following an accelerated path to retail...
What asmon is saying about class fantasy and class interdependency is spot on. Classic wow is infinitely times better than retail in that regard.
It has a huge impact on the game from the social and immersive elements, down to gameplay itself.
Retail can never re capture that unfortunately.
Yeah the homgenization really ruined it
Retail doesnt aim to capture it. It is a different game. Comparing them doesnt make much sense. It hasnt made sense since classic release. Theyre completely different, I dont understand why its difficult to understand for asmong fans.
@@WelsyCZ pretty delusional take there wesly. but thanks for sharing your opinion i guess.
its amazing how long these corporations can monetize hard work of the few men they once hired
Yah they can't make anything decent on their own
the reason for 20 player raids is that NO guild has more players. you would have to pug half your raid team. EVERY single time you run
Interdependency is what made a lot of older games so great. A lot of people now are so antisocial that game devs have caved into developing games for those people. Loved how Asmongold went into this simple game concept of classes having pros and cons. I think games actually helped a lot of people break out of their antisocial caves like how D&D helped people in the past learn how to get past problems in their lives. As a plus you had a blast in the process.
Bad idea to ADD a worldbuff.
Why?
Seeing how they're fucking with Molten Core makes me glad I didn't bother playing SoD ngl.
They literally just had to upgrade the gear and the players knew what to do from there to have fun. Now it’s phase CHORE
And if they didn't add chores, then you would be saying "no content wtf blizz". Just chill tf out. Don't play then
@@rosspritchett8423 Because the people that only play WoW, the, "One-Game-Andys," are the problem. I have other shit I wanna do with my life. I enjoy WoW, but balancing a game around no-lifers simply alienates your normal playerbase.
I quit SoD midway through the second phase once I started getting gate keeped at the scarlet monestary the writing was on the wall for what the other raids and dungeons were going to be like
Leave it to the playerbase to ruin their own futures
boo hoo people no want to plae wiff me
Never really wanted seasons of discovery, just wanted classic +
You can try private server with similar name, you know
At least you won't play Blizzard for better game
You learn to crawl before you learn to run, Classic+ went from "they will never do something like that" to, "ehhh, maybe". I'll take that, better than nothing 😅
This is beta classic+ probably
try turtle wow then
@@alwaysangry2232 it's not the same. At least what I invision for classic plus. Respect to those people though
His argument about how classic was never hard is a bit flawed, by todays standards its a cake walk, but back in 2005 it was quite difficult. The top guilds take about as long to clear raids now in retail as they've done in almost every expansion, the difficulty has gone up together with player skill. The big problem is the loot in mythic being so much better, it would be better if mythic had the same loot as HC but just had some cosmetics and titles as bonus rewards.
That's actually not the case - everyone was either too old to play good or too young to play good. Good PC also was a must and good internet connection etc. I would say that if everyone back in the day had good PC and internet - Classic would've been a cake walk.
@@poorpriest4549 Well, you could then argue that the bosses and tuning were made with the laggy connections and crappy PCs in mind. Everyone was way worse at the game too, and the min/max culture was not yet engrained in everyone as it is today. If you look at Wrath, Cata, Pandaria, or Legion's later raids and compare with retail, it took about the same time to clear them on the hardest difficulty as the raids in current retail. But I do see your point, and maybe the game has gotten a bit too sweaty, even if the player skill has increased a lot too.
Just do a 5 man m+ dungeon til past mythic ilvl ez game
That's a false premise! Don't confuse mechanical difficulty with overall difficulty. Vanilla WoW never had truly hard mechanics. This is simply true unless you're a mouth breather. Vanilla mobs, dungeons and raids were piss-easy in comparison to later expansions and other games. But it was difficult because of other factors: required time investment, required gear-checks, everything in the game was new and unknown, old PCs and slow internet, players being a lot less organized than now, and so on...
Dungeon run limits force me to either get it done right away and risk not playing with my friends or wait for my friends and risk missing that day or that week's limit and then im behind again.
It's just what we wanted! More Dailies!!
I'm gonna stick with HC for life.
I think the flexible raid size (40man).+ fixed difficulty (25man) is actually a great approach，people who want to spend more time recruiting players and just faceroll the raid can do that and the hard core smaller groups can also clear and adjust difficulty by bringing more or less players
*fewer
what i think is impressive is their capacity to mess this up while copying pserver concept, look extremly difficult
As a SoD player that admittedly leans into the sweaty side quite aggressively, even OUR GUILD is fucking pulling their hair out at the prospect of x2 3day lockouts on MC and Ony.
It's going to incinerate the remaining player base if they don't change it.
It's the most unappealing idea they could have ever proposed. I don't care how much you've reworked it and if you've given it a difficulty slider - no one wants to raid both Ony and MC twice a week. It's. Not. Fun. Fucking PERIOD.
The last time I played SoD. I spent about 10 hours questing in Westfall and I never saw another player. I completely lost interest. Server layers have made every server empty, and nightmare incursions made things worse.
Season Of Retail is coming back😢 ive lost hope at this point
as soon as phase 2 was shown off by them i gave up hope =( it sucks to see they haven't learn anything at all
Client: "I'm sure Blizzard won't screw it up again. Snowman: "Reserve my beer."
Fast grinding xp areas, raid scaling difficulty, I'm not a classic Andy but at the same time there's a reason I'm here and not on retail. I'm sure it'll be fun but idk
If only they could've stuck to objective QoL changes and stayed away from all the amateur modding content.
better chance of me voting sleepy joe than subbing for phase 4
So were getting Dailies, were making ret paladins so shit that they want to be holy or prot, were NOT getting BRD raid, and were just going to have to farm daily everyday to play vanilla WoW because SOME people are bored. Great i guess im not playing phase 4 after investing so much time into it. I want to be a Ret pally, i want to have a BRD raid not MC, i want to have a proper rotation not dual wielding 2 rotations as ret (Seal-twisting & also building procs for Exorcism spams) I want gear that isnt created for warrior and is actually made for ret so i dont have to steal from Feral druids & Warriors, and i want to just enjoy the game weekly not grinding every single day of the week for a Vanilla style game. (BTW I am a top percentile ret with 97-99 Parses im not shit at playing it.) I play other games too and if it becomes a slug-fest just to stay relevant that isn't fun for me. I hope someone enjoys it cause this kind of B.S. wasn't created for the kind of player i want to be.
Did you actually hope to get a good p4 aftet the shitshow with p2 and p3? 😅
Yea same
I feel like even after everything you said, you will still play the game because you wont want to miss on the easier gear farming this season.
I dont play wow. Just assuming.
@@konaqua122most of us that still play, do it because we are in a nice guild community and don’t want to leave that behind. The game sucks but the people make it somewhat better
Imagine being a 2h shaman and seeing them turn your bis weapon into feral prio and being told they made new 1hs for you so just use that...
Wake me up when we get a fresh Vanilla>TBC>Wrath server
I already miss TBC. I want to go back to adventuring in Outland.
i hate molten core being 20 man raid. 40 man raid is such an important aspect of the classic experience. '' classic raid difficulty'' is managing a 50ish groups of players, you need to deal with loot distribution, consumable management, timing, and class balance of the raid and all the drama in your guild. Sure the raid itself is easy, but that's not why classic raid is engaging.
That is not in any way ”fun” for a guild master or raid leader. Especially when we had 10 raids, then 20 killed many guilds and now you want 40 to kill whatever is left of the small amount of guilds, you guys are crazy.
@@ashura355 did you try being a guild master or a raid leader ? because i sure enjoyed my time as one during classic for 2-3 years.
I did end-up stopping after our 1st kt kill tho. But those were amazing times.
@@nuclease2739yeah, i am both gm and raid leader for my guild in sod and no , i don’t find 40 man raids fun. First of all it is hard to find 40 people that have the same vibe and dedication, and secondly , why even want 40 man raids lol
@@ashura355 yeah right in SoD. Your experience is in SoD.
finding new players during classic was never hard for us. (and we played on a tiny french server, finkle). It did start being a struggle during tbc, when the population started melting.
Why want a 40 man raid ? because it's epic. And in my case because i enjoy being part of the much bigger units. The '' difficulty'' of assembling and creating a functionning 40 man raid make the raid special, at time it feels like a miracle.imo it's one of the reason why vanilla raiding (even if the raid itself is piss easy) is still popular after decade. It creats this feeling of being part of something special.
(it does get dull after a while for sure, but that's just exhaustion for doing the same task over and over again and the lost feeling of discovering).
I dont get why Blizzard is not making a discussion with high influencers like Asmongold, to make sure the fanbase is represented by influencers.
Level scaling is my most hated thing in all games. If something is just too hard for me...then I don't belong there yet. If I am better because I leveled up and got better gear then I should be able to blow through it. I just don't like level scaling in general
all the good devs left blizzard, lets move on aswell lads
Real. leave this game behind
Next they should fix the poor writing for the story past Lich King.
The writing is trash tier since Classic and WotLK is by far one of the worst expansions in this scope, ESPECIALLY everything around the Scourge and the Lich King. Stop the copium.
I was actually a little bit excited, but my heart completely dropped when he said 20 man Molten Core. Went from possibly enthusiastic to hit max level, to not even caring might as well go back to hardcore.
I think they could have made all raids balanced for 20 but doable as 40, thats scalable difficulty and scalable loot by itself.
You guys didn’t watch the video stop commenting…
its over
Can't tell me what to do
Nah I already watch it (12 minutes after release)
no
Watched it live lol
Blizzard king of messing up 💀💀
It's not an abstract idea that difficulty swopping is antithetical to classic and you are absolutely right about the 40man raids.
The 20man andies/camp prize a speedrunner mentality above anything else in the game.
I love how they are forcing all the retail crap into the game once again. They just can't help it.
I'm still glad I quit SoD before I even hit 25.
Project Ascension did more for this game than blizz ever will
damn straight I wonder why blizzard doesn't just copy their ideas
@@facehugger8995 I mean they are tried with Season of Discovery but its not even close to Ascension
Preach bro
nobody play ascension tho...u get to raids and it just dies
@@2ndcitysaint52 You dont know what you are talking about kid so plz.... shssh
they want to turn classic into retail. adding all the retail systems...
"My name's Clay Stone"
Guy's name is an oxymoron right off the bat, clay and stone are two different things. Off to a good start.
That and people with 2 first names like Pete Richard, are red flags
@@deangelobailey5863 Right? And there's so many John Smiths out there.
Be safe man.
Lol was not expecting the World of Roguecraft quote
P3 KILLED THE GAME
Hope its not gonna be like Phase 3 where they abandoned the whole playerbase for 1.5 month.
he says best part of classic wow was to lvl meanwhile his afking his character in dungeons geting boosted lol
Retail Minus
Classic Plus is the only future
sod is dead
gathering and maintaining world buffs is the single biggest flaw in classic and sod. it takes hours to prepare for raid when classic+retail takes literally 2 seconds running to the AH. losing world buffs instantly removes any excitement and entertainment I get from the raid
I really wish they wouldn't scale. You want to feel strong. The whole point of leveling.
I 100% agree with his take on dailies. I havent played in years and part of it is because it turns into what feels like a part time job. Also have to agree with the take on raid difficulties. It encourages a try hard environment rather than a social one.
nothing is stopping you from playing whichever mode you enjoy.
play the easy mode if you don't like difficulty and play the harder modes if you want a challenge in return for larger quantity (not quality) loot.
are you just mad that you're bad? honestly, whats the problem with this?
@@ZugzugZugzugson It encourages people to say stuff like "are you just mad cause youre bad?" listen to yourself. You are doing exactly what my original comment says lmao
@@BigBlam shamelessly so. bad because mad or vice versa, doesn't matter because you ultimately don't matter because you are a filthy casual who has no intention to play the game seriously.
you have no business dictating how long everyone else gets to play the game when you have no interest in it.
@@ZugzugZugzugson and again your elitest attitude is encouraged by raid difficulties. You are constantly proving my point. And you kinda lost me on “dictating how long someone plays the game” in what way am I doing that? I played WoW pretty seriously for a large portion of my life. So I have what I feel is a solid OPINION so yes please get mad you elitest minority
You can't get better gear, you just get the same gear faster. 10 rolls gives you more chances to get gear than 5 rolls, but 10 rolls can't get you better quality gear that isn't available with 5 rolls.
Edit for reply due to shadowban: But that's exactly what I'm saying. You get more chances to get the same gear that's available even with fewer rolls. So you don't get better gear, you just get it faster. Individually it may seem like "I got better gear" but no player will ever get something with 10 rolls that everyone else could not get with 5.
One is describing what is potentially possible across every scenario, the other is describing individual rng for individual scenarios. Using the later to try and invalidate the former doesn't really make sense to me.
It's like saying "White and Black have the same number of pieces in chess" and then pointing to an individual game midway through where the pieces are unequal to say "no they're not" or "it depends".
Reply 2: Except the gear isn't better, you just get all of it faster.
It's like saying someone with a bigger cup is drinking 'better water'. No, it's the same water, you just get more of it down. Sure, the big cup might get you a specific water droplet faster than the small cup, but all droplets come from the same source, and the source is equal regardless of cup size.
Kind of depends on the phase length. Plenty of people went from Phase 1 of Classic to Phase 6 and never got their OSG, QSR, Thunderfury’s, BoA.
Having more rolls for those big ticket items will result in more people getting the high wuality gear. If they only get the base number of items then there is always the risk that when new content releases not everyone will have their persistent BiS items.
@@kwerby3285 But that's exactly what I'm saying. You get more chances to get the same gear that's available even with fewer rolls. So you don't get better gear, you just get it faster. Individually it may seem like "I got better gear" but no player will ever get something with 10 rolls that everyone else could not get with 5.
One is describing what is potentially possible across every scenario, the other is describing individual rng for individual scenarios. Using the later to try and invalidate the former doesn't really make sense to me.
It's like saying "White and Black have the same number of pieces in chess" and then pointing to an individual game midway through where the pieces are unequal to say "no they're not" or "it depends".
Having more chances to get the gear means you personally get better gear by doing it at a higher difficulty. It will also affect everyone else and make them want to do the higher difficulty because they will also want the chance of upgrading their gear.
At the end of the day, higher difficulty = better gear faster
which is totally fair btw.
i don't get how the baddies have the audacity to be mad about this.
they can get the same loot, just less of it, with much less effort and go back to feeding their 9 cats, pick up their 12 children and do whatever else with their 5 wives while those of us who want to actually play the game and not see the loot be flushed down the drain to these casuals can do so, in our harder version of the raid, with other like minded gamers.
@@kwerby3285 i got news for you dude; not everyone is meant to run around with hand of rag and thunderfury's, that's for those who do the grind and put in the effort. not everyone is meant to have BIS gear - those who put in the effort and the time though? sure... but don't expect to go into the game from a casual angle a la 1 hour per week and get a thunderfury, that's delusional.
I thought they were going to re-work the endgame raids into new ones :/ Literally just need to add a boss or 2. Maybe even add some side bosses to the world boss instances.
getting more gear in MC does mean better gear, and especialy in MC where things like vendorstrike drop and other bad pieces
Idea for the sweats: add a optional xp debuff to the game.
No achievement tied to it, maybe just a title based on how masochistic they are as the only reward.
e.g. "2% clubman" for the fools who manage to grind through a 1/50th the xp rewards as self imposed challenge.
I don’t care anymore. They fucked up so much delivery during Phase 3 I just hoped out.
I was done in early phase 1. How can you say it's classic and then having mage healers outdamage and tank everything? Tank rogue, fine, Warlock tank, okay, but man did they miss the mark with Mages. And a lot of the runes in general are just... better than normal classic spells. So why? Whatever is the point?
Dark souls 1 was a hard game, Played other action rpgs you could take down legions around you but in dark souls you would get slapped to death. Think people have played so much souls games or see enough about it as this point where their more prepared.
Ds1 💪💪💪
For people that played SMT3 and Armored Core, DS1 was the right difficulty and it went too bad.
You’re conflating DW, Onimusha, and DMC with DS games that aren’t in the same category of games.
With world bosses could they possibly adapt to a model like in Guild Wars 2 where the bosses are linked to server timers which can be tracked and some world quests are linked to event chains such as cursed shore which encourage players to engage with each other through the contibution system of bronze silver and gold engagement?
Yes they will, and don't call me Shirley
They already fucked it up. We're just hoping we can have a few weeks of fun in the wreckage.
Helop
Just jumping in? You won't be able to afford anything.
people give him gold just because he exists, he'll be fine I promise.
My friends in his guild, its stacked.
half my guild is gone man. they led us on for so long. everyone is on cata now. sad as hell. met some cool dudes...ugh.
crusader strike was great for the first couple seasons.
I better see some Chicas with Diqas or it wont be Blizzard
I just considered redownloading WoW classic but I'm confused, is it WoW Classic SOD, Wow classic remix or retail, i dont know the game well enough to know the difference between these products
Just play other games, not this bloated thing
If you just pay the subscription fee, you get access to WoW Classic, SoD, and Era
@kwerby3285 I'm aware of this, my point is I don't know which one to commit my time to because it's unclear what is distinct between these products
- WoW Classic SOD is the original 2004 game with minor adjustments. Playerbase has dwindled over the past year, and endgame content is very easy. However, the game gives large catchup boosts to players who start out new. Recommended for beginners.
- WoW Classic Cataclysm is a re-release of the 2012 expansion pack. Large playerbase, challenging end game content and great class balance. My personal recommendation for experienced players.
- WoW Mist of Pandaria remix, a short-term experiment where people can mix and match abilities and powers from different classes. Turning it into a sort of roguelite experience. The mixing of abilities allows you to really break the game. Therefore not very immersive, and not recommended.
@Thissa1992 thank you sm, that was really the only answer anyone needed to put
Elden Ring didnt need an easy mode and neither does a raid in classic WoW
Two completely different games, with different incomparable systems and mechanics.
P.S.: Elden Ring stinks.
see the thing is; raids up until this point in SOD has been tutorial level ez mode baby raids and people want more spice on their beef.
the normal mode is just that: the normal mode.
that's your "ez" mode, you are not being cheated out of power by playing this mode.
the harder modes of MC is for those of us who would like to be stimulated a bit when we play the game and not be forced down into the casual level with the dregs who play for 20 minutes per week, and the fact we are getting a bit larger quantity of loot (note: _not_ better QUALITY loot) as a reward is only fair.
people said the raids were hard in SOD and this is objectively not true.
blizzard had to do something to satisfy both types of players because a lot of people were really disappointed by how much they gutted the difficulty in ST.
finally we got a raid that got the adrenaline pumping, and because a bunch of scum who don't know how dispel magic works lamented their woes very loudly, we got cheated out of that.
this is hands down the best option for everyone.
those who are baddies can play the ez mode of MC and get the exact same loot that those of us who play the hard mode will.
when the casuals feel like they are up to the challenge, nothing is stopping them from entering the harder modes and giving it a try.
who knows, maybe they'll grow to enjoy the challenge.
No correlation
Look at the people they have designing and engineering WoW. No wonder every change they make sucks.
I dont think p4 is ruined. Its a season of discovery, temporal season, its made so people can experience classic in a complete different way. We already leveled in classic 2019, and classic hardcore, we dont want again a slow leveling, we want to test the new end game stuff, as we have already experienced all zones due to level by brackets.
With world bosses, I agree the fantasy of guilds fighting for it was super cool, but that was for classic 2019 or classic era, this is SOD and its quite ok that all people can see the boss.
Same with difficulty levels in MC, are we going to be doing again MC for months or weeks again with how meme it is? You can still have the meme difficult or have a more challenge.
I think runes are overtuned, invalidating talents or base spells, thats what the grip with SoD for me. They should have developed the TBC classes a bit, as they maintain the core of classic with some fixes, but improved.
Better not I swear
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I sold my soul for tusks and heavenly onyx serpent back in the day. Don't even want to think about the number of hours I put in to getting those items. The amount of comments I would get was staggering. People definitely do envy that stuff (When I saw someone with tusks I took it personally LOL) and those two items would be pretty meaningless if they weren't rare as fuck. From what I've heard, they normalized the heavenly onyx drop chance a while ago. Idk about tusks.
Haven't played in years, but those two things are honestly the only thing I think about/miss. Game looks like such garbage now, company is 100x worse, I really wish I sold my account when it was worth something. I took a slight glance a while back and the only accounts that sold for anything worthwhile, were those with current gear and/or unattainable items.
Brother you can buy that mount under an hour now in remix and for tusk all you need is 10x normal raids to buy em of the vendor if you do HC or M you can get em even faster right now on MoP remix.
I forgot this game exist, now I know why.
One day, Classic+ might happen and might be amazing but i wont be surprised if Asmon and Asmon andy's hate it lol.
Maybe they spent all that time updating end game content instead of focusing on one single dungeon and turning it into a generic retail raid.
Doubt it though.
edit: Nope, its worse, dailies dailies dailies, and difficulty modes for end game, they learned nothing about how classic succeeds in player retention while retail fails
No tier 2 helms on onyxia!?! No Judgement set 😢
On Ragnaros also not
yet
I guess the entire class set system needs to be remade in a way to fit the current way of the game, like the original paladin tier1 set is for healing mainly, but now the other specs need their own stats and set bonuses.
Bro it was always crap to have t2 on raggnaros and onixia .. t2 should have been in bwl only
The 12 people still playing are really going to appreciate this
for people trying to talk about how the 20 man raids are better fail to understand that
The 40 main raids weren't super punishing for 40 people unless someone screwed up "certain" mechanics, but it was designed with like 20 people in mind with 20 other people just THERE doing some stuff.
Now it'll be changed to work with 20 people, with 20 people and if someone dies "welp better have a BR".
it wasn't until Naxx that things started to tighten up but not by much now well people will be like "hey this stuff is gonna be harder"
Also "multiple" difficulty's are just overall lazy design look at how much content/dungeons/raids there were in vanilla as opposed to TBC or wrath instead of there being 10 dungeons we just make 5 and make it have a heroic mode, oh 10 raids? Nah just make 3 and give them 2 difficulty's that only give you 2 additional abilities.
The soyjack face in the beginning says it all
If they havn't added the ability for Smite Priest to exist, then Blizzard isn't paying attention to what the community wants and therefore it will get fucked up.
Watching current Blizzard is like watching someone who has no idea how to cook inside a kitchen with every cooking tool within arms reach. SoD is just self IP mining of previous expansion mechanics and assets with a little bit of throwing spaghetti at the wall. With zero vision it's just seems like a complete mess. OSRS is making money this way so Blizzard need to as well. Just corporate suits seeing free money.
Love how sod went from season of discovery to season of fomo. Also they should make world buffs either class abillities like warrior or just make them craftable through engineering or alchemy. Like what if alchemist can make a really expensive cauldren that gives world buff flasks (like the cata cauldren but with world buffs) or if engineers can drop a "Beacon of Impatience" thats a little mech totem that gives everyone in an instanced area the "Warcheifs Blessing" buff. You can make it only usable in raids so it gives people a reason to get other world buffs for grinding/pvp/leveing.
The only reason why there are daily quests is that they want to keep players active to keep the game alive in servers and on the graphs.Period
Meanwhile I will be playing Viper in FFXIV looking more cool than any wow class has ever looked and playing in actually interesting content.
Weeb furry lool