@@oseokoyo Hypothetical man needs to work on decreasing the 4th quarter interceptions in clutch time. Less "If he had this he'd be unstoppable" and more actual results.
That’s what’s funny. When Miami win its “Tua has very good weapons” but when Miami loses its “Tua isn’t good enough” while those very good weapons are also on the field.🤣
Tua choked when it mattered the most period it had. Nothing to do with the team tuas bad decision making the Miami offense sputtered when they had to step up that offense ran threw the QB tua
@@torettomalachi2248 yes because if u have that much talent on offense and still can't beat great team then thats on him if talent matters then why ain't tua winnung with alk the superstar talent he has around him
As a phins fan, he got exposed again and again against good teams. You can't blame anyone else when a high powered offence can't even put up 20 points. He shouldn't have gotten extended this offseason. Let him play it out.
This is 1000% facts! Miami carve up “Tua has very good weapons that make him look good” Miami lose “Tua isn’t good enough” while those same very good weapons are on the field.🤣
Does anyone remember Miamis DC who was doing whatever he wanted and forcing players to not play their strength? Canty, name another qb out there that can run the system.
It's Tua with the record, not the entire team? Funny. Guess they shouldn't pay waddle, tyreek, McDaniels, or anyone since they all had that record. 🤦♂️
ESPN: The Jets haven't had a winning record since the Reagan administration. The signed a 40 yearold QB that went to the Super Bowl 1 time almost as long ago as Sean Payton. They're legitimate Super Bowl contenders. The Dolphins, on the other hand, have been to the playoffs the last 2 years, have shown marked improvement, are stacked with talent on offense and one of the best defensive back groups in the league. They'll probably collapse.
ESPN gets so stupid when it comes to earned contracts. He is their Franchise QB Hes gotten them to playoffs the last few years and had little support behind him. He is the Matt Ryan of The Miami Dolphins and they struggled without him. His supporting Cast is an extension of Tua and you might need wanna remember who beat Georgia in the National Championship
Most people do that, and especially the player's. They want maximum based off production but there's only so much team money to go around. NFL is literally the can't pay everybody league. To me NHL has the healthiest salary structure, easy to track production of players, hard salary cap where teams have to pay 90% minimum of the cap, and what you end up with is the best player's make the most money, and it trickles down from there.
You can’t just excuse Tua’s losses to Mahomes and Allen. Neither of them are going anywhere and if you can’t beat them, then you can’t win a Super Bowl.
These analysts never get called out for their lack of contracts and salary cap. Theres an early out in the contract and he's not even a top 5 paid QB when the contract is properly evaluated. In a bout 2-3 years tua will not even be a top 10 highest paid QB. And after they re structure reek the fins have more cap space than prior to tua deal. These former players always bash journalists cuz they never played the game well journalists should remind the former player turned talking head they never went pro at math or economics lol
What should they do, you Franchise him twice you not only cause a pissed off QB, when it is now becoming a player driven league, due to how players now can just sit and not care, and have to still get paid. Yes his record stink, but he was leading the league in yardage, if you don’t pay him now, and he goes this season and put up monster numbers, what will you do when he demand 60 or 65. Dak is about to get paid, not because he knows how to play it is due to what the market ask, and do you want to start over when you are looking towards a goal (SuperBowl) with a lot of upside. Tia will be worth every penny and more.
This is year 3 under McDaniel. If Tua finishes top 5 in Qb metrics again this conversation is done. Is he elite? No. Can he develop into an elite Qb? I believe so. Not every great had to have a rocket arm or be 6’5 to win a SB. I’ll name a few. Eli Manning, Nick Foles, Brees, Russ Wilson.
Eli is just under 6'5 and had a rocket arm (you're thinking of his brother, who didn't) and Foles is 6'6 and could throw it 80 yards with ease. Brees and Wilson were very mobile.
@Justino754 No, but neither had the WR weapons that Tua has. Imagine them with Tyreek and Waddle, and the fastest offensive weapons ever assembled when you include those RB's. And they won 3 Super Bowls. Obviously you're not talking about Brees, who was absolutely elite. Look at all the records he holds.
@@junehanzawa5165 Everyone focuses on fast wrs but ignore the trenches where Tua has never had not even a top 20 Oline. He played last year with 4 back ups they were extremely banged up
As a dolphins fan, I think they might I hope not but I think they might because when it matters most December and then playoff games he has come up short that is the reality. Obviously time will tell. I am hoping for the best.
@@DesignerDrew the haters will say that he should’ve won that game if he was really HIM. But we know there’s only one of those in the league right now.
@@DesignerDrew ok what about the buffalo game for the 1 seed ? he can’t even play good around play off time because it’s too cold for him. Not to mention the best receiver in the game has to come back to the ball most times hence why they throw side to side.
@richs00n it was one season where he didn't rlly do good..go back to when waddle was a rookie and tua was balling out 2nd part of the season, even tuas rookie season he was good in the end
I haven’t met a single Dolphins fan who thinks Tua should have been paid. They all think he needed to prove he can stay healthy and win in the cold weather, Tua will be the next Daniel Jones. The guy before Dan Orlovsky was right on ✌️🏈
@@cbalexander4444 he had a mediocre year, you forgetting that tua was in the mvp race least season and he plays in the hardest conference with juggernaut qb’s. Daniel jones has never been looked at at as a good quarter back mediocre at best.
The hate for Tua is ridiculous at this point. I pray this young man brings home a Super Bowl for Miami. He deserves the world, the world doesn’t deserve Tua.
Dan will say Trevor doesn’t Deserve the money but in less years in the NFL than Tua. Trevor got a division title and playoff win with a subpar WR core but TUA is supposed to deserve the money. Dan is beyond bias
Trevor went 2-14 before Doug Pederson also Kirk engram and zay are good weapons and minshew has better stats on jaguars with no one close to as good as Kirk or engram
I just don't like Dan's argument. Yes the 1-6 record against above .500 teams were against good teams. That's the point? I LOVE Tua so much, but he's gotta win the hard games too. Saying you don't expect him win games against hard teams but can pay him top QB money is just insane.
😂Leading up to the contract, discussion, “he’s worth it, sign him, can’t do without him;” now, “will they regret the signing.” It’s the same BS conversations around Dak in Dallas. And if Dallas does not sign Dak to an extension, ESPN will tell us Dallas is terrible and Jerry is an idiot; if he is signed to an extension, it will be - Dallas will regret it, Jerry got played …. Etcetera.
The narrative when comparing Tua and Herbert is crazy to me. Both players have practically accomplished the same things but somehow Tua is mid and Herbert is elite… they’re both good players who are not great yet
Firstly A LOT of people are sayin he's not good so thats just false, secondly my guy it's 7 other QBs who are getting or have asked to be paid more than Pat Mahomes so stop that. The reality is Pat sign a unprecedented super contract that's paying him in an almost MLB type of way so that argument of "why is he getting paid more than Pat Mahomes" is just dumb quite frankly
Tua is not overpaid. Mahomes is underpaid. QB salary lists are totally ridiculous to compare against each other because the salary cap rises every year. Your argument is insane
Tua is 100% overpaid when Kirk Cousins is going to start for almost 10million less. Tua is Kirk Cousins, he is Ryan Tannehill, he is mediocre at best and requires a hall of fame cast in every position for him to be decent.
Props to Canty who was a beast of a player but this was the right decision by Miami. Tua and this team are completely capable of making a run this year that leads to a Super Bowl. You want to have to pay him then???
What are Tua's stats on beating teams that have Superbowl head coaches? Stats on how many top 10 defenses Tua has beaten? Anyone can pick and choose stats to reinforce a narrative.
I've been a Dolphins fan since 1972, I don't think they can win a Superbowl with Tua, he's not great! I regret them not picking Herbert, a Qb with a real arm and wheels!
Dom is soooo right. You'll hurt the entire teams growth if you just throw away a above average QB. Nobody does that in good organizations. Cheifs, Eagles, Ravens, 49ers, Rams, on and on. They all signed a dude and kept drafting and looking for a better guy to fit into a team that was getting better. Not the Panthers model.
Because no one who is being paid top money has a 1-6 record vs good teams. You pay guys like that because they can be THE guy....and this is his ceiling btw. He has the best WR in the game...another WR1 playing as the 2 and still cant beat good teams....y'know...the thing you eventually have to do if you want to win a superbowl. And now the jets will ALSO be a good team he has to beat. His offense is loaded...yet he can't beat anyone worth bragging about...
Currently, both the packers & fins are taking a big risk with tua & love, signing them to huge contracts. Love doesn't have as much experience most QBs with similar contracts & benefited from a rookie season (beginners/rookie luck is a thing) when he could completely fall off the next. It happens more often than you think. Tua, with the team he's had hasn't had the best of luck & the injuries he sustained (partially due to the fins) could be a problem in the future. & no, we didn't forget the favorable position Mahomes went to. Most just blantly ignore it, try to make the situation he's in worst than what it actually is. Chiefs are one of the best teams in the league with out Mahomes & Reid. With them, they are the best team in the league. No way around that.
Idk his name but the guy in the suit that said Tua doesnt show up in big moments is the same guy saying the cowboys should pay Dak 60 million a year 😂😂😂. The hypocrisy and Tua hate is real.
The Jaguars, Packers, Dolphins will regret paying their above average/mediocre QBs elite QB money. Jared Goff, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts earned their contracts, Jordan Love, Tua Tagovailoa, Trever Lawrence are all paid, because it was their turn to "break the market" what a joke.
Miami would do better with a cold weather quarterback because that's where you will be playing in the playoffs . Burrow ,Allen and Mahomes all can play in those conditions
So Trevor was 8-3 until he got major injuries and has a division title/playoff win. But…Tua falls apart at 8-3 without injuries and no title/playoff win but he deserves the pay…CONTRADICTION
I hate Dan’s takes. Why throw out the 1-6 record against playoff teams. You’ll cream a Dak Prescott for going 1-6 against playoff teams. I don’t get it. Tua is a good QB but he can’t win the meaningful games either. I hate the favoritism.
I swear to god "record against opponents over .500" is a statistic that has never been discussed until Tua started to play well. Stop looking for reasons why Tua is bad, that's all people are doing
Please let me know who Miami was supposed to replace Tua with. Keep in mind that QB must be a top 5 rated QB in the NFL and consistently(?) beat Mahomes and Allen. Also, please make sure that player is available to sign next year so they don't waste the offensive weapons they have. Good luck with that hunt
Lol because no one getting paid has ever been THIS bad against winning teams. All Tua does is stat pad against losers and then has his WORST games on EVERY team that are actual contenders. The fact that yall want to ignore the fact that Tua CANT beat good teams is hilarious. You CANT ignore the division/conference he is in. How do you win a Super Bowl if you literally can't beat good teams? Paying him was a horrible decision and the dolphins won't go anywhere for the next 5 years now.
@@DorkJelly that is such an asinine take. nobody has EVER been this bad? you have zero clue how bad any other QBs have been against winning teams at this point in their careers. ZERO clue. You're running with the media narratives because you don't watch the games and don't know the roster. get outta here
@@DorkJelly You also made no effort to address my question of who they are supposed to play at QB that's an upgrade or how they are supposed to acquire said player. it's also obvious that you have no idea how NFL contracts are structed, much less Tua's actual contract if you think they're somehow glued to him for 5 years. Stop taking your hot takes from sports headlines.
The way the NFL pays Quarterbacks is ridiculous. No one should be making more than Maholmes period. The only sport that pays guys on what they might be able to do cause they are next up. You earn your pay in every other sport.
forget the stats, his body. moreover his HEAD, is not going to last a bad play. Concussions COMPOUND. a few bad plays and he's OUT. But good up on him for getting the back
Defense just completely forget how to stop the ball and offensively they were so caught off guard by the sudden momentum shift that they become deer in the headlights
@@champ2233killad The Titans were leading the entire game until they made 2 huge mistakes that gave Miami the ball back inside their 30. One was by the special teams, and if I remember correctly, turned the ball over inside their own 15. Those were the shocking, sudden changes.
@Dan Orlovski and Harry are bugging. You don't pay someone based on potential, you pay based on what they have done aka Merit. The other guys is not saying keeping throwing out QBs just because they are not mahomes you just don't pay them as much or anywhere close to what Patrick is earning. This is simple point.
I hope not.But... Don't have a Good Feeling about this. He's Got ALOTTTT to Prove, him with McIDOIT. They can't beat Good / Physical / Playoff Caliber Teams. Facts are Facts.
Of course they’re going to regret it, the man has a weak arm, limited mobility and is extremely injury prone. The only reason he even looks good is because of the pieces around him and his offensive coordinator to be real. We all saw that playoff game in KC last year. Not the guy.
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Where was this energy woth kirk cousins, trevor lawrence, and Herbert
This man really said Justin Herbert, you must be a causal
@@oseokoyoTua is 2-1 vs Herbert
@@oseokoyo I mean Herbert hasn't proved it yet
Herbert plays defense?😂@@TheBigTone100
@@oseokoyo Hypothetical man needs to work on decreasing the 4th quarter interceptions in clutch time. Less "If he had this he'd be unstoppable" and more actual results.
Blaming tua but not talking about the rest of the team???
He is not good enough! The cold weather play?
That’s what’s funny. When Miami win its “Tua has very good weapons” but when Miami loses its “Tua isn’t good enough” while those very good weapons are also on the field.🤣
Tua choked when it mattered the most period it had. Nothing to do with the team tuas bad decision making the Miami offense sputtered when they had to step up that offense ran threw the QB tua
@@torettomalachi2248 yes because if u have that much talent on offense and still can't beat great team then thats on him if talent matters then why ain't tua winnung with alk the superstar talent he has around him
He's the Qb and now he's a 50 million dollar QB. He should get most of the blame
funny how when tua does good things, they mention his supporting cast. but when they lose to a good team, it's all tua's fault.
As a phins fan, he got exposed again and again against good teams. You can't blame anyone else when a high powered offence can't even put up 20 points. He shouldn't have gotten extended this offseason. Let him play it out.
@@Robay8who called the plays again? McDaniel, that’s right.
Exactly. Dude cant win
@@huckleberryhound4407 - You're right. Tua somehow he gets all the blame. McDaniel's play-calling is questionable.
This is 1000% facts! Miami carve up “Tua has very good weapons that make him look good”
Miami lose “Tua isn’t good enough” while those same very good weapons are on the field.🤣
The standard that Tua is held to in relation to every other player is ridiculous.
You mean winning games against winning teams?
@@dkgdkg2178Facts💯🎯
Lost the eagles game because of two blown calls. One being a PI on Cedric wilson on the last drive of the game...
Not to mention all the uncalled penalties on eagles and during replays you can clearly see refs looking at them not calling it
We pay a lot of qbs for almost doing things
Put this on a billboard
Like almost leading the league in passing?
@@chrism6880Better pray Reek or Waddle don’t get hurt lol
@@Los150 they have OBJ, Malik Washington, and Braxton Berrios (who is an incredibly underrated possession wr)
@@chrism6880I would hope so with with arguably the best WR duo in the league.
Does anyone remember Miamis DC who was doing whatever he wanted and forcing players to not play their strength? Canty, name another qb out there that can run the system.
It's Tua with the record, not the entire team? Funny. Guess they shouldn't pay waddle, tyreek, McDaniels, or anyone since they all had that record. 🤦♂️
I think this is good..with tuas talent and what he has done so far that will probably be a steal in 4 years with the way the qb market is going
Exactly, market value is going to be different in 4-5 years
When the chargers don’t make the playoffs I just want to hear the excuses for princess Herbert
He overrated as well, stop all the passive aggressive nonsense 😅.
ESPN: The Jets haven't had a winning record since the Reagan administration. The signed a 40 yearold QB that went to the Super Bowl 1 time almost as long ago as Sean Payton. They're legitimate Super Bowl contenders.
The Dolphins, on the other hand, have been to the playoffs the last 2 years, have shown marked improvement, are stacked with talent on offense and one of the best defensive back groups in the league. They'll probably collapse.
Exactly I don’t get that
@@joc-3.0.5 they're all Jets fans, for some reason
@@chrism6880 they have played in to AFC Championship games since 2000
@greygoosetall 🎉🎉🎉 and in the other 21 seasons they have a combined 35 wins
@@chrism6880 lol. I was just stating a fact. I hate the Jets
ESPN gets so stupid when it comes to earned contracts. He is their Franchise QB Hes gotten them to playoffs the last few years and had little support behind him. He is the Matt Ryan of The Miami Dolphins and they struggled without him. His supporting Cast is an extension of Tua and you might need wanna remember who beat Georgia in the National Championship
I hate hearing Dan taking up for every Qb bro just cause you was terrible don’t mean you can’t criticize them
Thank you
Why would he bash the League’s leader in passing?
@@jfireball123 Dak also lead the league in passing TD and QBR, yet Dan TEAR into him, where is the consistency?
Stg bra be saying anything 😂😂😂
i swear you didn't even listen to what he said lol
Josh Allen’s contract isn’t looking so bad anymore
Not even a Miami fan but ever since he got hurt in Alabama they been against tua the whole way
Dan is always on point. Keep a fair and objective look at your analytics.
Why does Dominique act like the NFL isn’t a hard salary cap league
Because there’s so much accounting done that it barely is
Most people do that, and especially the player's. They want maximum based off production but there's only so much team money to go around. NFL is literally the can't pay everybody league. To me NHL has the healthiest salary structure, easy to track production of players, hard salary cap where teams have to pay 90% minimum of the cap, and what you end up with is the best player's make the most money, and it trickles down from there.
You can’t just excuse Tua’s losses to Mahomes and Allen. Neither of them are going anywhere and if you can’t beat them, then you can’t win a Super Bowl.
These analysts never get called out for their lack of contracts and salary cap. Theres an early out in the contract and he's not even a top 5 paid QB when the contract is properly evaluated. In a bout 2-3 years tua will not even be a top 10 highest paid QB. And after they re structure reek the fins have more cap space than prior to tua deal.
These former players always bash journalists cuz they never played the game well journalists should remind the former player turned talking head they never went pro at math or economics lol
Nicely put 👏🏾
Top money means you can pull a team pass injuries on your team
He averaged 192 yards a game in their losses. Can't blame the defense.
Finally, someone speaks the truth about Tua Way to go Chris. He is not worth the money or even the position.
Get that bitterness hate out your heart
@@joc-3.0.5 Reality, already lived through Tannehill.
What should they do, you Franchise him twice you not only cause a pissed off QB, when it is now becoming a player driven league, due to how players now can just sit and not care, and have to still get paid. Yes his record stink, but he was leading the league in yardage, if you don’t pay him now, and he goes this season and put up monster numbers, what will you do when he demand 60 or 65. Dak is about to get paid, not because he knows how to play it is due to what the market ask, and do you want to start over when you are looking towards a goal (SuperBowl) with a lot of upside. Tia will be worth every penny and more.
This is year 3 under McDaniel. If Tua finishes top 5 in Qb metrics again this conversation is done. Is he elite? No. Can he develop into an elite Qb? I believe so. Not every great had to have a rocket arm or be 6’5 to win a SB. I’ll name a few. Eli Manning, Nick Foles, Brees, Russ Wilson.
Eli is just under 6'5 and had a rocket arm (you're thinking of his brother, who didn't) and Foles is 6'6 and could throw it 80 yards with ease. Brees and Wilson were very mobile.
@@junehanzawa5165 neither was considered elite tho
@Justino754 No, but neither had the WR weapons that Tua has. Imagine them with Tyreek and Waddle, and the fastest offensive weapons ever assembled when you include those RB's. And they won 3 Super Bowls. Obviously you're not talking about Brees, who was absolutely elite. Look at all the records he holds.
@@junehanzawa5165 Everyone focuses on fast wrs but ignore the trenches where Tua has never had not even a top 20 Oline. He played last year with 4 back ups they were extremely banged up
The Dolphins don't expect to win a Super Bowl with Tua. Being in the mix at the end of the season is good enough for most teams.
Why is there a pic of some1 not tua?
So Canty, thinks Lawrence is worth the money. This guy hates Tua💀
salary is based on personal performance. i don't care where i rank, if i lead the league in passing
Facts. Also future performance projections and he has a bright future ahead
As a dolphins fan, I think they might I hope not but I think they might because when it matters most December and then playoff games he has come up short that is the reality. Obviously time will tell. I am hoping for the best.
He only played one playoff game...
@@DesignerDrew the haters will say that he should’ve won that game if he was really HIM. But we know there’s only one of those in the league right now.
@@DesignerDrew ok what about the buffalo game for the 1 seed ? he can’t even play good around play off time because it’s too cold for him. Not to mention the best receiver in the game has to come back to the ball most times hence why they throw side to side.
@@zacharylocke5512 got nothing to do with hating we just being real all because u like em doesn’t mean we’re wrong
@richs00n it was one season where he didn't rlly do good..go back to when waddle was a rookie and tua was balling out 2nd part of the season, even tuas rookie season he was good in the end
Tua has earned every penny of that money! He has played fairly well, and he's put his health on tha line time after time again. GOD bless tua 🙏🙏🙏
Tua fans are finally HAPPY and that's all that MATTERS 🎉 as he's not a top 10 QB
Pay a known player now, or pay even more for a lesser player later...teams choice.🤷
I just wanna know who they were bidding against lol
It only takes one bad hint . Hope his o line protects him better
Comparing him against the top 5 QBs is what happens when you get paid like a top 5 QB. Saying it's not fair is participation trophy BS
I haven’t met a single Dolphins fan who thinks Tua should have been paid. They all think he needed to prove he can stay healthy and win in the cold weather, Tua will be the next Daniel Jones. The guy before Dan Orlovsky was right on ✌️🏈
I’m not a dolphins fans but Tua is 10x better than Daniel jones. Even tyreek hill was vouching for him
Hi, I’m a Dolphins fan who thought and believed that Tua should’ve been paid. And I stand by that 100%.
@@Buddy-ru7ln there’s one 😬
@@tyrekwalls2230 it’s not about talent .It’s about availability and cold weather performance. Jones had one good year, got paid, got hurt,
@@cbalexander4444 he had a mediocre year, you forgetting that tua was in the mvp race least season and he plays in the hardest conference with juggernaut qb’s. Daniel jones has never been looked at at as a good quarter back mediocre at best.
Yes
The hate for Tua is ridiculous at this point. I pray this young man brings home a Super Bowl for Miami. He deserves the world, the world doesn’t deserve Tua.
Dan will say Trevor doesn’t Deserve the money but in less years in the NFL than Tua. Trevor got a division title and playoff win with a subpar WR core but TUA is supposed to deserve the money. Dan is beyond bias
Trevor went 2-14 before Doug Pederson also Kirk engram and zay are good weapons and minshew has better stats on jaguars with no one close to as good as Kirk or engram
2 sides of the ball bro
Now I know why you have Clown in your name🤣🤣🤣🤣
They said the same about Dak when he got his deal
I just don't like Dan's argument. Yes the 1-6 record against above .500 teams were against good teams. That's the point? I LOVE Tua so much, but he's gotta win the hard games too. Saying you don't expect him win games against hard teams but can pay him top QB money is just insane.
Tua is a perfect fit for that system, he needs a good O-Line to work and the Miami Line crumbled with injuries late in the year.
They’ll only regret it if either Reek or Waddle get hurt.
Straight forward answer is :YES 100%
😂Leading up to the contract, discussion, “he’s worth it, sign him, can’t do without him;” now, “will they regret the signing.” It’s the same BS conversations around Dak in Dallas.
And if Dallas does not sign Dak to an extension, ESPN will tell us Dallas is terrible and Jerry is an idiot; if he is signed to an extension, it will be - Dallas will regret it, Jerry got played …. Etcetera.
No one ever said tua was worth it 😂
All valid points, Tua is a really good to great QB. As long as it's over 45 degrees after that all bets are off.
It’s crazy to think Tua is carrying the Dolphins. That’s insane
Everything the Dolphins do is to maximize profits, forget winning at Miami.
Dan praising Tua but crapping on Dak who is levels ahead of tua
Dan Orlovsky voice of reason
The narrative when comparing Tua and Herbert is crazy to me. Both players have practically accomplished the same things but somehow Tua is mid and Herbert is elite… they’re both good players who are not great yet
Doesn't matter, it's essentially a 3 year $154 million dollar deal and I think Miami will be looking for a new QB starting QB in 2027
No one is saying Tua isn't a good QB, we're just wondering why he thinks he deserves more per year than Mahomes; is he even better than Kirk Cousins??
Firstly A LOT of people are sayin he's not good so thats just false, secondly my guy it's 7 other QBs who are getting or have asked to be paid more than Pat Mahomes so stop that. The reality is Pat sign a unprecedented super contract that's paying him in an almost MLB type of way so that argument of "why is he getting paid more than Pat Mahomes" is just dumb quite frankly
Tua is not overpaid. Mahomes is underpaid. QB salary lists are totally ridiculous to compare against each other because the salary cap rises every year. Your argument is insane
Does Trevor Lawrence or Jordan Love?? Nobody deserves more than Mahomes theoretically and a ton of QB’s make more currently
@@champ2233killad no, a lot of people aren't calling him great, everyone knows he's good, decent, mediocre kind of QB. Good does not mean great.
Tua is 100% overpaid when Kirk Cousins is going to start for almost 10million less. Tua is Kirk Cousins, he is Ryan Tannehill, he is mediocre at best and requires a hall of fame cast in every position for him to be decent.
Props to Canty who was a beast of a player but this was the right decision by Miami. Tua and this team are completely capable of making a run this year that leads to a Super Bowl. You want to have to pay him then???
Yes they will !
What are Tua's stats on beating teams that have Superbowl head coaches? Stats on how many top 10 defenses Tua has beaten? Anyone can pick and choose stats to reinforce a narrative.
Why do we always make excuses for the QB position than any other position?
I've been a Dolphins fan since 1972, I don't think they can win a Superbowl with Tua, he's not great! I regret them not picking Herbert, a Qb with a real arm and wheels!
Dominique is the only one I don't find completely pretentious on this panel.
If Miami convinces the NFL to only allow teams with losing records to make the playoffs, Tua will be just fine.
Dom is soooo right. You'll hurt the entire teams growth if you just throw away a above average QB. Nobody does that in good organizations. Cheifs, Eagles, Ravens, 49ers, Rams, on and on. They all signed a dude and kept drafting and looking for a better guy to fit into a team that was getting better. Not the Panthers model.
Tua is the only qb where we talk about the stats vs "winning teams"
Because no one who is being paid top money has a 1-6 record vs good teams. You pay guys like that because they can be THE guy....and this is his ceiling btw. He has the best WR in the game...another WR1 playing as the 2 and still cant beat good teams....y'know...the thing you eventually have to do if you want to win a superbowl.
And now the jets will ALSO be a good team he has to beat. His offense is loaded...yet he can't beat anyone worth bragging about...
Yeah! That Kevin Hart lookalike is spitting facts.
8 yrs in, Allen & Jackson have not reached the pinnacle in their careers yet, but 5 yrs in and Tua’s a bust….
Wait. He just said cj stroud a rookie is “historically great “ 😮
why don't ppl look at it from the perspective of players n agents
Yes without a doubt they will regret it.
Currently, both the packers & fins are taking a big risk with tua & love, signing them to huge contracts. Love doesn't have as much experience most QBs with similar contracts & benefited from a rookie season (beginners/rookie luck is a thing) when he could completely fall off the next. It happens more often than you think. Tua, with the team he's had hasn't had the best of luck & the injuries he sustained (partially due to the fins) could be a problem in the future. & no, we didn't forget the favorable position Mahomes went to. Most just blantly ignore it, try to make the situation he's in worst than what it actually is. Chiefs are one of the best teams in the league with out Mahomes & Reid. With them, they are the best team in the league. No way around that.
Idk his name but the guy in the suit that said Tua doesnt show up in big moments is the same guy saying the cowboys should pay Dak 60 million a year 😂😂😂. The hypocrisy and Tua hate is real.
Everybody can hate but watch when it comes down to it he will prove himself like dan did and prolly get a super bowl
Dang between the time of Get Up and First Take my opinion is starting to sway. But I still feel like Canty. Let him play the contract out.
Pay the quarterbacks based on tiers.
Tua deserves the money
No team will never ever win a SB with Tua no hate but just reailty.
The Jaguars, Packers, Dolphins will regret paying their above average/mediocre QBs elite QB money. Jared Goff, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts earned their contracts, Jordan Love, Tua Tagovailoa, Trever Lawrence are all paid, because it was their turn to "break the market" what a joke.
Okay but if they don't pay him who's their qb?
Miami would do better with a cold weather quarterback because that's where you will be playing in the playoffs .
Burrow ,Allen and Mahomes all can play in those conditions
nfl players said tua is 36th best player in the whole league. better than all of you combined
They're gonna regret NOT BUILDING THE O-LINE...They got everything else.
That’s why you need a game changer and not a game manager cause injuries are part of the game and a game manger can’t overcome injuries
They will just like dak giving him a extension 😂😂😂😂😂
So Trevor was 8-3 until he got major injuries and has a division title/playoff win. But…Tua falls apart at 8-3 without injuries and no title/playoff win but he deserves the pay…CONTRADICTION
What Are You Talking About????
Highly doubtful this guy will last thru each Season much less thru the entire contract. So yes, they will. But Blank does as Blank will do.
I hate Dan’s takes. Why throw out the 1-6 record against playoff teams. You’ll cream a Dak Prescott for going 1-6 against playoff teams. I don’t get it. Tua is a good QB but he can’t win the meaningful games either. I hate the favoritism.
Love Canty
There is no winning with these talking heads. "He's not worth what you're paying him?" The market is paying QBs higher.
I swear to god "record against opponents over .500" is a statistic that has never been discussed until Tua started to play well. Stop looking for reasons why Tua is bad, that's all people are doing
Please let me know who Miami was supposed to replace Tua with. Keep in mind that QB must be a top 5 rated QB in the NFL and consistently(?) beat Mahomes and Allen. Also, please make sure that player is available to sign next year so they don't waste the offensive weapons they have. Good luck with that hunt
Lol because no one getting paid has ever been THIS bad against winning teams. All Tua does is stat pad against losers and then has his WORST games on EVERY team that are actual contenders.
The fact that yall want to ignore the fact that Tua CANT beat good teams is hilarious. You CANT ignore the division/conference he is in. How do you win a Super Bowl if you literally can't beat good teams? Paying him was a horrible decision and the dolphins won't go anywhere for the next 5 years now.
@@DorkJelly that is such an asinine take. nobody has EVER been this bad? you have zero clue how bad any other QBs have been against winning teams at this point in their careers. ZERO clue. You're running with the media narratives because you don't watch the games and don't know the roster. get outta here
@@DorkJelly You also made no effort to address my question of who they are supposed to play at QB that's an upgrade or how they are supposed to acquire said player. it's also obvious that you have no idea how NFL contracts are structed, much less Tua's actual contract if you think they're somehow glued to him for 5 years. Stop taking your hot takes from sports headlines.
not like the giants will regret giving Jones that money
The way the NFL pays Quarterbacks is ridiculous. No one should be making more than Maholmes period. The only sport that pays guys on what they might be able to do cause they are next up. You earn your pay in every other sport.
forget the stats, his body. moreover his HEAD, is not going to last a bad play. Concussions COMPOUND. a few bad plays and he's OUT. But good up on him for getting the back
That titans game was disgusting we were up 2 scores with like 3 min left
Defense just completely forget how to stop the ball and offensively they were so caught off guard by the sudden momentum shift that they become deer in the headlights
@@champ2233killad The Titans were leading the entire game until they made 2 huge mistakes that gave Miami the ball back inside their 30. One was by the special teams, and if I remember correctly, turned the ball over inside their own 15. Those were the shocking, sudden changes.
@Dan Orlovski and Harry are bugging. You don't pay someone based on potential, you pay based on what they have done aka Merit. The other guys is not saying keeping throwing out QBs just because they are not mahomes you just don't pay them as much or anywhere close to what Patrick is earning. This is simple point.
tuanon never forgets
Yea we will. As good as he seems he’s not worth that money
COME-ON MAN- NO MORE EXCUSES!!!! It's TIME to WIN OR GO HOME. ADEEP PLAYOFF RUN -- MUST -- Happen. Just making enough.
Its a wait and see now with Tua. He got his bag now he has to prove it
Actually no, he doesn’t have to prove anything. He’s already been paid.
@@JACPOT3rddd has to prove he is worth the money they just paid him. He has more pressure to perform more than ever
I hope not.But... Don't have a Good Feeling about this. He's Got ALOTTTT to Prove, him with McIDOIT. They can't beat Good / Physical / Playoff Caliber Teams. Facts are Facts.
Fox talking about a not fair measuring stick, yet seems support silly levels of next man up.
Of course they’re going to regret it, the man has a weak arm, limited mobility and is extremely injury prone. The only reason he even looks good is because of the pieces around him and his offensive coordinator to be real. We all saw that playoff game in KC last year. Not the guy.