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  • Опубликовано: 28 май 2023
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    The Premier League 22/23 season is wrapped up, which means it’s time for Tifo to pick their Team of the Season. This year has seen a lot of breakout performances with a resurgent Newcastle back in Champions League football and brilliant Brighton side powered by Roberto De Zerbi.
    JJ Bull and Jon Mackenzie are here to dissect the season that’s been, going head to head in picking their favourite players from this season.
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Комментарии • 496

  • @gal708
    @gal708 Год назад +1848

    Do the same, but only teams who finished 11-20.

  • @SGb_08888
    @SGb_08888 Год назад +248

    Thing about Allison is you don't see him a lot in games where he makes an acrobatic saves but in play where a sudden Liverpool lose the ball and counter attack emerges where he makes a very routine save but then we play Kheller and understand all of this routine save is down to his positiong

    • @DrWHO77
      @DrWHO77 Год назад +13

      Fr yesterday kelleher made Allison's routine saves look world class which he is world class

    • @iurearaujo8397
      @iurearaujo8397 Год назад

      Very true! That has a lot to do with the goalkeeper trainer of Liverpoll and Brazil national team, Taffarel. He was known as a great goalkeeper who strived in positioning himself orther than make acrobatic saves.

    • @AppleApple-ux1be
      @AppleApple-ux1be Год назад +6

      Oh yh Allison never makes good saves. Best keeper in the league. Just because he doesn’t do the unnecessary jumping to make it look acrobatic.

  • @allotment3275
    @allotment3275 Год назад +363

    I'm enjoying JJ taking the role of keeping the discussion on point

    • @a1a300
      @a1a300 Год назад +1

      He's so focused on looking not a united fan 😂 he looks weird these days 😅

    • @Unherist
      @Unherist Год назад +1

      I'm enjoying JJ.

    • @ZPSBestProfileName
      @ZPSBestProfileName Год назад

      @@a1a300 Is he a united fan? I know he supports aberdeen but I didn't think he was a glory supporter

    • @oamusic4710
      @oamusic4710 Год назад +6

      ​@@a1a300 he's not a united fan. He's said before on the podcast that he actually somewhat dislikes them

  • @kiweping5
    @kiweping5 Год назад +78

    I ran these teams in a one-off football manager match, and it was crazy.
    Both teams had the same formation and starting lineup as shown in the video, team instructions and player instructions were fairly minimal and the players were usually given their best role
    My prediction would be that JJ stomped as Jon's defence wasn't rated very highly by FM
    (I will now be writing like commentary)
    15 minutes in and JJ is clearly winning this battle so far, he has 5 shots compared to Jon's 2, 2 of which are on target with a total of 0.58 xG, Jon meanwhile only has 2 off-target shots and only 0.02 xG. JJ is clearly dominating the possession battle with 57% possession
    25'
    Saka scores! (Jon) (1-0)
    Stones brings the ball up and passes to Kane who is on the halfway line. Rodri presses him but Kane does a beautiful cross-field pass to Mitoma who receives it right on the byline. Mitoma passes it backwards to Shaw, who passes it back to Mitoma over the top of the defence who is just on the side of the 18-yard box, he cuts it back to Odegaard standing on the edge of the box, who in turn passes it to Saka who nets from 12 yards out with a decisive finish into the top right.
    30 minutes in and that goal is the only shot Jon has had in the last 15 minutes however his xG had risen to 0.18 and now had 48% possession. JJ meanwhile has produced fewer shots than he did in the first 15 but higher quality ones with 8 shots in total, 3 of them on target, and 1.05xG.
    33'
    Rashford scores! (JJ) (1-1)
    Rodri picks up a loose ball just outside his own box, He passes to Rice who passes it back to Saliba. Saliba plays a long ball the Guimaraes (Jon) wins, but JJ's Rodri picks up the loose ball again. he passes it out wide to Saka who attempts a move he tried merely 30 seconds earlier which failed, cutting in from the right at the halfway line and playing the long ball to Rashford, but this time it works. Rashford picks it up on the edge of the 18-yard box, chests it, and after a bounce, volleys it into the far bottom corner with his weak left foot from the 6-yard box.
    It's Half time now and Jon has started to create some more chances while JJ is still slowing down, this is a much closer affair than I thought it would be. Jon has 6 shots now, 2 on target and 0.82 xG now leading is possession with 51%. JJ meanwhile, similarly to Jon when he scored, only got 1 shot in the last 15 minutes being his goal; this brings him to a total of 1.23xG
    60 minutes in and the momentum has shifted again! Jon has only had one shot in the last 15 minutes bringing his total to 7 shots, 3 on target and 0.9xG, while now only having 47% possession. JJ meanwhile has 14 shots 7 on target and now has 2.04xG. They now each decide to make a substitution Jon taking Kane off and putting Watkins on, JJ taking Rice off and putting Palhinha on, both of which you have to say are deserving substitutions as neither are anywhere near their usual standard.
    70 minutes in and another set of substitutions are being made. Guimaraes comes off for Jon as he is looking for something new by putting De Bruyne on, Saka also comes off for Jon as Saka hasn't played that well apart from his goal, with Salah replacing him. Guimaraes also comes off for JJ as he is tired after picking up a knock earlier in the game, Odegaard replaces him.
    74'
    Red card! (Kieran Trippier) (Jon)
    Trippier picks up his second yellow. After a bad first touch trying to intercept a pass from Shaw to Rashford, it falls behind him and Rashford picks it up. Trippier tries to reach the ball first but fouls Rashford who would've had a lot of space down the line. Jon's team is now down to 10 men and has shifted to a 4-4-1 with Watkins coming back off so Saliba can fill the right back spot.
    75 minutes in and it is still a close affair. Jon now has 10 shots, 6 on target with 1.42xG, JJ has had more shots with 19 in total now and 9 on target but with only a small growth in xG which is now at 2.35. however, he is still dominating possession with 54%
    80 minutes in now and JJ makes another substitution Haaland comes off after a thoroughly average performance which simply isn't good enough compared to the rest of his team who are all having an excellent game, it's an unorthodox replacement though as Salah comes on too replace him who normally favours the right wing.
    90 minutes in and the ref has just blown the whistle for the end of regular time. JJ is really starting to dominate now with 25 shots 11 on target and 3.29 xG maintaining his 54% control of possession. Jon has had another 2 shots though, both of target bringing his xG to 1.84
    98'
    Salah scores! (JJ) (1-2)
    Shaw runs the ball up the pitch playing a ball to Rashford who runs forwards and tries to play a through ball to Salah, but Stones gets a foot to it. However, the ball falls back to Rashford who plays the balls to Salah's feet this time who turns in from the edge of the D and smashes the ball in the far top right corner from 15 yards out, leaving Raya with no chance. VAR finds nothing wrong with the goal and it stands.
    113'
    Salah scores! (JJ) (1-3)
    Corner for JJ, Shaw puts the ball into the box but Saliba clears. Shaw picks up the loose ball and puts a low pass to Kane who is on the side of the 6 yard box. Saliba closes him down but Kane turns towards the line and shoots. Raya can only deflect the shot and Salah is first to pounce from 6 yards out. It really seems like the substitutions is paying off now
    118'
    Haaland scores! (Jon) (2-3)
    Free kick for JJ far out, Odegaard delivers the ball in but Stones clears. De Bruyne picks up the ball and drives forward but Palhinha stops him from going further. So De Bruyne heads out wide and puts a delicious through ball to put Haaland through on goal, he takes the shot from 12 yards out and sends Alisson the wrong way, tucking it away in the bottom right. Could this get them back in the game?
    120'
    Alas, it was not to be as the whistle blows for full-time at 2-3. A much closer game than I was expecting but the winners deserved to win. It was a dominant display from JJ with 40 Shots 19 on target and 5.52xG. Jon meanwhile only had 16 shots, 10 on target with 2.46 xG
    Other Stats
    Jon
    5 corners
    20 fouls
    3 yellows
    1 red
    79% pass completion
    JJ
    15 corners
    16 fouls
    2 yellows
    84% pass completion
    Ratings
    Jon
    Raya 8
    Trippier 6.5
    Stones 7.5
    Colwill 7
    Shaw 6.5
    Saka 7
    Odegaard 8
    Bruno Guimaraes 6.5
    Mitoma 7
    Kane 6.5
    Haaland 8
    Subs
    Watkins N/A
    De Bruyne 7
    Saliba 7
    Salah 6.5
    JJ
    Alisson 7.5
    Saliba 8
    Botman 8
    Shaw 7.5
    Rice 6.5
    Rodri 7
    Saka 8.5
    Bruno 7
    Kane 9
    Rashford 8
    Haaland 6.5
    Subs
    Palhinha 7
    Odegaard 7.5
    Salah 8.5
    Man of the Match - Kane
    0 goals, 1 Assist, 0.75xG, 1.61xA (expected assists) 7 key passes, 4 clear-cut chances created
    Edit: did my TotS (using the same rules) against JJ and threw away a 2-goal lead to lose 3-5, so did the same against Jon and got smoked 2-4 (was 0-4). I only lost by 0.2xG in the first game, and had over 1xG higher than Jon in the second; in both games I had much higher xG per shot. Across all the games, Erling Haaland scored 8 goals, 7 of which were against me... (My TotS for those wondering Alisson; Trippier, Stones, Saliba, Shaw; Palhinha, Odegaard, KDB; Salah, Kane, Mitoma. Guess that's what I get for not putting Haaland in my starting line up)

    • @theskankingpigeon965
      @theskankingpigeon965 Год назад +7

      I'm surprised they didn't do this given they've used FM in past videos, but appreciate you for doing it instead!

    • @ishrmann3175
      @ishrmann3175 Год назад +4

      Thanks for this

  • @fd210
    @fd210 Год назад +47

    Feel like Thomas Frank is highly overlooked as one of the managers of the season, lowest budget, and 9th with 59 points.

  • @TheSnkrPimp
    @TheSnkrPimp Год назад +62

    “He’s offside”
    When JJ is the voice of reason! 😂

  • @naganeerajkorada1557
    @naganeerajkorada1557 Год назад +330

    Liverpool conceding as many goals as arsenal is all down to Alisson though. He massively outperformed their xGA, and as a United fan I know that’s not sustainable, because de gea was like that for a couple years and when he regressed to the mean, a massive reality check.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 Год назад +9

      Part of why we're conceding so many chances is basically 8 Players in front of him not being bothered defensively,some actively hurting the team, like Henderson playing a defence splitting pass for Rashford's goal.

    • @Nightsu
      @Nightsu Год назад +19

      @@bri1085 Can't just blame your midfield, Van Dijk and Trent also getting exposed more because of better LWs and STs in the league this season.💀

    • @jacket2383
      @jacket2383 Год назад +15

      yeah. Liverpool's defense was clearly worse than arsenal but they somehow conceded the same amount of goals as arsenal because of Alisson. Arsenal defense only became poor in the last 10 games.

    • @kieronparr3403
      @kieronparr3403 Год назад +5

      At the beginning of the season Liverpool fans were loving their squad.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 Год назад +8

      @@Nightsu I mentioned 8 Players, that's the defence and midfield, but especially the defence. Trent having to defend 2v1s is down to the midfield not being up to scratch.

  • @tundrawolf5127
    @tundrawolf5127 Год назад +44

    Jon predicting kane to reach 30 goals in amazing. You know ball sir

    • @skunkpirates
      @skunkpirates Год назад +5

      He's scored the most goals on the final day in the PL. I think he's up to 11 now

    • @SteRDLK
      @SteRDLK Год назад

      Well done he said a striker who has scored 200 goals in nine years to score twice against a dogshit Leeds team

  • @Nightsu
    @Nightsu Год назад +102

    Shout out to Emery for Manager of the Season using the 2 person per team rule.

    • @sinewybug8415
      @sinewybug8415 Год назад +10

      the fact that they said it leaves no one but klopp is crazy

    • @JimTheFly
      @JimTheFly Год назад +3

      @@sinewybug8415 I'm a Liverpool AND Klopp fan and I got annoyed when they did that.

    • @joshb6007
      @joshb6007 Год назад +6

      Also Thomas Frank and Marco Silva. Outside shot for Sean Dyche just for keeping them in the league.

    • @Nightsu
      @Nightsu Год назад

      @@joshb6007 Thomas Frank and Silva havent done anything special in the league, just ended up mid table without over/under performing.

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Год назад

      Ya, but the fact he only had half a season...

  • @leegilbert1459
    @leegilbert1459 Год назад +80

    Put these teams into football manager. Decide the victor

    • @Unherist
      @Unherist Год назад +1

      They did it one year. I don't remember at which occasion, maybe not for the PL TotS, but they definitely tried that format. It was good fun.

    • @und4ad213
      @und4ad213 Год назад

      @@Unherist I think it was just a premier league draft, not neccesarily a tots - if my memory serves me right - was a jokes video

    • @kiweping5
      @kiweping5 Год назад +4

      I ran these teams in a one-off football manager match, and it was crazy.
      Both teams had the same formation and starting lineup as shown in the video, team instructions and player instructions were fairly minimal and the players were usually given their best role
      My prediction would be that JJ stomped as Jon's defence wasn't rated very highly by FM
      (I will now be writing like commentary)
      15 minutes in and JJ is clearly winning this battle so far, he has 5 shots compared to Jon's 2, 2 of which are on target with a total of 0.58 xG, Jon meanwhile only has 2 off-target shots and only 0.02 xG. JJ is clearly dominating the possession battle with 57% possession
      25'
      Saka scores! (Jon) (1-0)
      Stones brings the ball up and passes to Kane who is on the halfway line. Rodri presses him but Kane does a beautiful cross-field pass to Mitoma who receives it right on the byline. Mitoma passes it backwards to Shaw, who passes it back to Mitoma over the top of the defence who is just on the side of the 18-yard box, he cuts it back to Odegaard standing on the edge of the box, who in turn passes it to Saka who nets from 12 yards out with a decisive finish into the top right.
      30 minutes in and that goal is the only shot Jon has had in the last 15 minutes however his xG had risen to 0.18 and now had 48% possession. JJ meanwhile has produced fewer shots than he did in the first 15 but higher quality ones with 8 shots in total, 3 of them on target, and 1.05xG.
      33'
      Rashford scores! (JJ) (1-1)
      Rodri picks up a loose ball just outside his own box, He passes to Rice who passes it back to Saliba. Saliba plays a long ball the Guimaraes (Jon) wins, but JJ's Rodri picks up the loose ball again. he passes it out wide to Saka who attempts a move he tried merely 30 seconds earlier which failed, cutting in from the right at the halfway line and playing the long ball to Rashford, but this time it works. Rashford picks it up on the edge of the 18-yard box, chests it, and after a bounce, volleys it into the far bottom corner with his weak left foot from the 6-yard box.
      It's Half time now and Jon has started to create some more chances while JJ is still slowing down, this is a much closer affair than I thought it would be. Jon has 6 shots now, 2 on target and 0.82 xG now leading is possession with 51%. JJ meanwhile, similarly to Jon when he scored, only got 1 shot in the last 15 minutes being his goal; this brings him to a total of 1.23xG
      60 minutes in and the momentum has shifted again! Jon has only had one shot in the last 15 minutes bringing his total to 7 shots, 3 on target and 0.9xG, while now only having 47% possession. JJ meanwhile has 14 shots 7 on target and now has 2.04xG. They now each decide to make a substitution Jon taking Kane off and putting Watkins on, JJ taking Rice off and putting Palhinha on, both of which you have to say are deserving substitutions as neither are anywhere near their usual standard.
      70 minutes in and another set of substitutions are being made. Guimaraes comes off for Jon as he is looking for something new by putting De Bruyne on, Saka also comes off for Jon as Saka hasn't played that well apart from his goal, with Salah replacing him. Guimaraes also comes off for JJ as he is tired after picking up a knock earlier in the game, Odegaard replaces him.
      74'
      Red card! (Kieran Trippier) (Jon)
      Trippier picks up his second yellow. After a bad first touch trying to intercept a pass from Shaw to Rashford, it falls behind him and Rashford picks it up. Trippier tries to reach the ball first but fouls Rashford who would've had a lot of space down the line. Jon's team is now down to 10 men and has shifted to a 4-4-1 with Watkins coming back off so Saliba can fill the right back spot.
      75 minutes in and it is still a close affair. Jon now has 10 shots, 6 on target with 1.42xG, JJ has had more shots with 19 in total now and 9 on target but with only a small growth in xG which is now at 2.35. however, he is still dominating possession with 54%
      80 minutes in now and JJ makes another substitution Haaland comes off after a thoroughly average performance which simply isn't good enough compared to the rest of his team who are all having an excellent game, it's an unorthodox replacement though as Salah comes on too replace him who normally favours the right wing.
      90 minutes in and the ref has just blown the whistle for the end of regular time. JJ is really starting to dominate now with 25 shots 11 on target and 3.29 xG maintaining his 54% control of possession. Jon has had another 2 shots though, both of target bringing his xG to 1.84
      98'
      Salah scores! (JJ) (1-2)
      Shaw runs the ball up the pitch playing a ball to Rashford who runs forwards and tries to play a through ball to Salah, but Stones gets a foot to it. However, the ball falls back to Rashford who plays the balls to Salah's feet this time who turns in from the edge of the D and smashes the ball in the far top right corner from 15 yards out, leaving Raya with no chance. VAR finds nothing wrong with the goal and it stands.
      113'
      Salah scores! (JJ) (1-3)
      Corner for JJ, Shaw puts the ball into the box but Saliba clears. Shaw picks up the loose ball and puts a low pass to Kane who is on the side of the 6 yard box. Saliba closes him down but Kane turns towards the line and shoots. Raya can only deflect the shot and Salah is first to pounce from 6 yards out. It really seems like the substitutions is paying off now
      118'
      Haaland scores! (Jon) (2-3)
      Free kick for JJ far out, Odegaard delivers the ball in but Stones clears. De Bruyne picks up the ball and drives forward but Palhinha stops him from going further. So De Bruyne heads out wide and puts a delicious through ball to put Haaland through on goal, he takes the shot from 12 yards out and sends Alisson the wrong way, tucking it away in the bottom right. Could this get them back in the game?
      120'
      Alas, it was not to be as the whistle blows for full-time at 2-3. A much closer game than I was expecting but the winners deserved to win. It was a dominant display from JJ with 40 Shots 19 on target and 5.52xG. Jon meanwhile only had 16 shots, 10 on target with 2.46 xG
      Other Stats
      Jon
      5 corners
      20 fouls
      3 yellows
      1 red
      79% pass completion
      JJ
      15 corners
      16 fouls
      2 yellows
      84% pass completion
      Ratings
      Jon
      Raya 8
      Trippier 6.5
      Stones 7.5
      Colwill 7
      Shaw 6.5
      Saka 7
      Odegaard 8
      Bruno Guimaraes 6.5
      Mitoma 7
      Kane 6.5
      Haaland 8
      Subs
      Watkins N/A
      De Bruyne 7
      Saliba 7
      Salah 6.5
      JJ
      Alisson 7.5
      Saliba 8
      Botman 8
      Shaw 7.5
      Rice 6.5
      Rodri 7
      Saka 8.5
      Bruno 7
      Kane 9
      Rashford 8
      Haaland 6.5
      Subs
      Palhinha 7
      Odegaard 7.5
      Salah 8.5
      Man of the Match - Kane
      0 goals, 1 Assist, 0.75xG, 1.61xA (expected assists) 7 key passes, 4 clear-cut chances created
      Edit: did my TotS (using the same rules) against JJ and threw away a 2-goal lead to lose 3-5, so did the same against Jon and got smoked 2-4 (was 0-4). I only lost by 0.2xG in the first game, and had over 1xG higher than Jon in the second; in both games I had much higher xG per shot. Across all the games, Erling Haaland scored 8 goals, 7 of which were against me... (My TotS for those wondering Alisson; Trippier, Stones, Saliba, Shaw; Palhinha, Odegaard, KDB; Salah, Kane, Mitoma. Guess that's what I get for not putting Haaland in my starting line up)

    • @Unherist
      @Unherist Год назад

      @@kiweping5
      Wow! Thanks for the effort 😅😎

  • @ishsichsjfke9267
    @ishsichsjfke9267 Год назад +59

    People disagreeing with their tots opinions I know but I just want to say I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It was great. Thanks guys.

  • @arushpati
    @arushpati Год назад +49

    Happy to see Luke Shaw in both TOTS. Massively underrated player, mainly because of the problems he's had covering for Harry Maguire in the past. He's really shined, though, with a much quicker, intelligent and positionally aware Martinez alongside him. Would get into any top side in the world right now and is quite comfortably the best LB in the league, currently!

    • @benedictharrison2819
      @benedictharrison2819 Год назад

      only because they couldn't include more City and Arsenal players. They both would've taken Ake, Akanji and Zinchenko over him

    • @Jusilau
      @Jusilau Год назад

      @@benedictharrison2819 nah I'd take shaw over zinchenko

  • @brothatisfunny
    @brothatisfunny Год назад +14

    You can see JJ was really thinking about wings backs having wings, but jon brought him back to reality

  • @alfieezekiel1960
    @alfieezekiel1960 Год назад +3

    insane that you didnt even mention Arteta (for MotS)

  • @ethanirwin21
    @ethanirwin21 Год назад +20

    That Kane prediction lol

  • @dustinmartin6524
    @dustinmartin6524 Год назад +156

    Love you lot but seeing Colwill in TOTS is the definition of overthinking it…

    • @acorpuscallosum6947
      @acorpuscallosum6947 Год назад +6

      Nope, he's been one of the best CB's in Europe. But he wouldn't be half as good anywhere other than Brighton

    • @taa8168
      @taa8168 Год назад +16

      They can only pick 2 players per team

    • @JPzizou
      @JPzizou Год назад +2

      Been class but missed large amount of games

    • @dustinmartin6524
      @dustinmartin6524 Год назад +58

      @@taa8168 I’m aware, but hes played 17 games this season, a decent amount of those off the bench. Im sorry he can’t be considered, let alone picked

    • @dustinmartin6524
      @dustinmartin6524 Год назад +28

      @@acorpuscallosum6947 Hes only started 13 games 💀 💀

  • @Spikes.10
    @Spikes.10 Год назад +119

    De bruyne should be in the team of the season

    • @aaronconway4435
      @aaronconway4435 Год назад +68

      With no restrictions yes, but when you can only have 2 from Rodri, Stones, KdB and Haaland, it becomes a much harder choice

    • @jameswright21
      @jameswright21 Год назад +10

      He's just been so good for so long being amazing isn't enough anymore. You just expect him to be incredible, so when he is it seems lesser.

    • @hectorcope2646
      @hectorcope2646 Год назад +13

      ​@@jameswright21 who are you dropping then if you can only have 2 city players ??? Can't be haaland so would you drop Stones or Rodri. There's no wrong answer really but personally would have Rodri over KDB this season

    • @jaisriram295
      @jaisriram295 Год назад

      City have been worse this season than last

    • @maisondav1d
      @maisondav1d Год назад +2

      ​@@jaisriram295 doesn't matter still the best team of the league

  • @markeleven1155
    @markeleven1155 Год назад +11

    As others have said, Casemiro. Especially after JJ’s video on his ability to keep driving the ball forward in transition. What really stood out as well was his presence on corners and how he always found that bit of space to be super dangerous.

  • @pozsoz
    @pozsoz Год назад +8

    When the Podcast is taken hostage by the warm hands of our Goblin King, I expect to still see some videos like these with two or more of the Tifo Lads together talking about football.
    I love JJ Bull, as much as he loves Pedri.
    Hail Mein Goblin King.
    Also the eventual Seb guest visit, as well as Alex, will be eternally thanked for.

  • @kunalgupta9043
    @kunalgupta9043 Год назад +5

    This is fun. They're discussing tactics in a team of the season video
    I love it

  • @abiodunmichaelolatokun2844
    @abiodunmichaelolatokun2844 Год назад +38

    Unai emery picked up an under-performing team from gerrard. They then broke the record for the longest consecutive goal scoring run of any team upon appointing a new manager. They also won 35 points from 17 games. I find it tough to take tifo seriously when emery was considered for ‘manager of the season’ when the obvious candidates were ruled out by the rubric of the exercise.

    • @MistaZULE
      @MistaZULE Год назад +2

      Emery did amazing, but he only had half a season. I think it’s difficult to give any manager the award for really only coaching for 15-18 games. In a full season he could have started a losing streak or suffered injury setbacks.
      I agree Emery was phenomenal, but half a season is half a season.

  • @brenolelis1883
    @brenolelis1883 Год назад +5

    Casemiro not being here is insane, same as KDB

  • @Sreejith__
    @Sreejith__ Год назад +56

    I’m just happy that shaw is getting the recognition he deserves. He’s been the best lb in the league.

    • @Unherist
      @Unherist Год назад +2

      I don't know if he was THE best, but he's up there that's for sure. And I'm so happy for the lad.

    • @DeskDesk19
      @DeskDesk19 Год назад +5

      Because Ake plays League One yea? Loool.

    • @sohamchakraborty3220
      @sohamchakraborty3220 Год назад +2

      Estupinan? Rico Henry?

    • @shaneoconnor8597
      @shaneoconnor8597 Год назад

      Going forward maybe. But defensively he leaves a lot to be desired. Weirdly when we play him cb he seems a lot better defensively

  • @mattishidayeo
    @mattishidayeo Год назад

    With the rules?
    GK: LIV - Alisson
    RCB: ARS - Saliba
    CB: NEW - Botman
    LCB: MUN - Shaw
    RCM: ARS - Odegaard
    LCM: FUL - Palhinha
    CAM: MCI - KDB
    RW: LIV - Salah
    LW: MUN - Rashford
    RF: TOT - Kane
    LF: MCI - Haaland
    Bench:
    BRE - Raya
    AVL - Mings
    BRI - Estupinian
    BRI - Mitoma
    CRY - Eze
    AVL - Watkins
    NEW - Wilson

  • @a-manthegeneral
    @a-manthegeneral Год назад +29

    Jon sneaking in 3 City players while pretending not to is funny af

  • @cav6717
    @cav6717 Год назад +4

    I think Douglas Luiz might just be the most underrated player in the league. Honourable mentions to Rico Henry and Pascal Gross too.

  • @Nightsu
    @Nightsu Год назад +25

    Bruno with the most big chances created and most chances created in the league underperforming his xA by at least 10 because forwards couldn't score and he didn't have a striker.
    Rashford had multiple stints at the most important times, out of his 17 goals 10 were match winners which he put the team on his back. His influence to his team is much more weighted than any other forward apart from Haaland and Kane.

  • @commentarytalk1446
    @commentarytalk1446 Год назад +21

    Agree about Mitoma. Nice to see these different players burst onto the scene. And again Stones on that criteria as well. Haaland obviously as well.

  • @gambit0913
    @gambit0913 Год назад +2

    My only disagreement is with Rice…thought Paulinha and Casemiro were far far superior without mentioning Caceido

  • @ecashman
    @ecashman Год назад +2

    not metioning Unai Emery was a huge miss for manager of the season by both JJ and John...

  • @vestnivdrom6311
    @vestnivdrom6311 Год назад +18

    Not having Casemiro there is outrageous

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Год назад

      No it isn't, he missed the first few games at the start &was then suspended, so that's a lot. & jj already had 2 man u players. Rodri, him & party (until the end), are all roughly on the same situation (club size), & on the same level. Five & Paul aren't far behind playing at wise clubs

  • @andyhills9972
    @andyhills9972 Год назад +10

    No Antti Niemi…I thought this was a serious show

  • @IgorOricolli
    @IgorOricolli Год назад +2

    Martinelli had the same numbers of Rashford with not overlap FB and Xhaka on his side (so not very creative), and actually while the english had zero defensive tasks and played CF a lot, Martinelli operated the herculean task of cover Zinchenko... also more consistent in all the EPL season. Rashford you can argue better season only if you consider Europe League and Cups, but these competitions are out of scope.

    • @arushpati
      @arushpati Год назад +1

      Rashford and Martinelli both had great seasons but as an attacker, Rashford has had a much bigger impact on United than Martinelli has on Arsenal. 10 of Rashford's 17 league goals were match winners (only Harry Kane has got more). Only 5 of Martinelli's 15 were match winners. Rashford's goals ultimately played a huge role in helping Utd secure top 4 and if not for the injury, he'd have probably got another 3 or 4.

  • @percymutekanga6293
    @percymutekanga6293 Год назад +4

    Bruno G over Bruno F is just silly JJ😂

  • @ucbrowser2447
    @ucbrowser2447 Год назад +4

    Them playing football chess for a while was interesting

  • @indrayudhsarkar4679
    @indrayudhsarkar4679 Год назад +2

    If your team doesn't have De Bruyne, then it's just stupid.

  • @SamSouthall
    @SamSouthall Год назад +2

    I’d have preferred a team of the season without the 2 players a team rule. Gabriel, Martinelli, de Bruyne and others all had much more worthy TOTS performances than quite a few in these teams

  • @sinewybug8415
    @sinewybug8415 Год назад +19

    emery not being talked about as potential MOTS is crazy

    • @JimTheFly
      @JimTheFly Год назад +4

      This was who I was expecting from them. Villa went 3-3-7=12 under Gerrard and were in 16th. Then Emery comes in and they go 15-4-6=49 in the last 25 matches. He had them in European qualification by MD 29 and they stayed in 6th-8th the rest of the season. He's been amazing, and actually if he was there the whole season and kept that kind of output, it'd be Villa and not Newcastle getting 4th, with around 74-75 points.

    • @DeskDesk19
      @DeskDesk19 Год назад +3

      Oh behave Villa was never getting forth. Top 6 maybe, but forth is a whole different ball game. They don't have the squad depth needed for a top-four run this season. Well see what happens next year.

  • @jawworm
    @jawworm Год назад +1

    If manager of the season is measured by performance on the season vs expectations, then surely it has to be either Arteta or Howe.

  • @blast473
    @blast473 Год назад +45

    For me the Team of season would be Arsenal or Brighton. They exceeded expectations by a lot and are in wonderful position atm.

    • @_.008
      @_.008 Год назад +2

      Same goes for united,bournemouth,fulham and newcastle 💀

    • @ymt068
      @ymt068 Год назад +7

      @@_.008only Newcastle really exceeded expectations to the level of arsenal

    • @whichmalachione7800
      @whichmalachione7800 Год назад +2

      @@_.008 United???

    • @_.008
      @_.008 Год назад +4

      @@whichmalachione7800 didn't every single human predicted them to finish 6th before the start of this season and 7th or 8th after 1st 2 matches and were in title race after beating city at old Trafford 💀...

    • @indubioproreo5
      @indubioproreo5 Год назад +2

      @@_.008 no and no

  • @simonmarie83
    @simonmarie83 Год назад +1

    Can we all acknowledge that the inverted fullback/box midfield formation is a reworking of Herbert Chapman's WM formation from decades ago?

  • @SAHVAJE
    @SAHVAJE Год назад +3

    you know they know ball when they both put shaw in their teams

  • @JettIRL
    @JettIRL Год назад +5

    Fair play to Emery for getting European football with only 1 top player

  • @thetruth4654
    @thetruth4654 Год назад

    Thats the 11
    GK-Allison
    LB-Ake
    CB-John Stones
    CB-Sven Botman
    RB-Trippier
    CDM-Rodri
    CM-Caicedo
    CM-KDB
    LW-Mitoma
    ST-Haaland
    RW-Salah

    • @sideman4501
      @sideman4501 Год назад +1

      you seem to be missing a player from a certain team that was clear 3rd best in the league and got to 2 domestic cup finals

  • @Fertog1
    @Fertog1 Год назад +6

    Emery should be Manager of the Season, with Ten Hag getting an honorable mention. Mac Allister, Casemiro, Bruno Fernandes, Toney and Callum Wilson were some players you missed that could be in the Team of the Season.

  • @p1xyb0i
    @p1xyb0i Год назад +4

    not even a mention of Casemiro cmon

  • @danielkarlsen2545
    @danielkarlsen2545 Год назад +4

    JJs shirt is amazing 🎉

  • @keelybannister6487
    @keelybannister6487 Год назад +1

    Surprised Jon didnt pick Jesse Marsch as his manager of the season. I know hes a big fan.

  • @Alehud42
    @Alehud42 Год назад +2

    I wish there were more than a passing mention for Martinez given he was possibly just as much of a cheat code in possession for United as Stones was for City.

  • @kola844
    @kola844 Год назад +3

    Finally a TOTS video where Luke Shaw gets his flowers. For a team with the most clean sheets in the league no one is really talking about United’s defense.

    • @Unherist
      @Unherist Год назад

      Especially when both Varane and Martinez have been injured. Says a lot about the whole team and ten Hag.

  • @sriramkarthik8568
    @sriramkarthik8568 Год назад +2

    "Maybe next season we'll talk about how Pep solved the probem of Kane and Haaland in the same team" can't wait 🥶

  • @smitm.1342
    @smitm.1342 Год назад +1

    Absolutely unreal anti United bias. Understand everyone wants to be hipster by being fashionably anti United but discounting Bruno Fernandes who played out of position to accommodate team tactics and still creating maximum big chances, not to even mention his defensive output and leadership - absolutely stinking bias.

  • @says0rry
    @says0rry Год назад +4

    16:08 he did score 2 against leeds!

    • @TheAthleticFC
      @TheAthleticFC  Год назад +7

      "Nope." as in I'm not rerendering this video on a Sunday for release 😇

  • @fransjosaphat6195
    @fransjosaphat6195 Год назад

    My list 3-2-4-1 : Emi Martinez (GK) - Bottman - L. Martinez- Saliba - Casemiro - Bruno Guimares - Mitoma - KDB - Maccalister - Salah - Haaland

  • @4231jerome
    @4231jerome Год назад +1

    My team of the season, using this tifo format of max two players per team ~
    Formation : 4-2-3-1
    GK: Allison
    LB : estupinan
    CB : saliba
    CB : stones
    RB : trippier
    DM: guimaraes
    DM: casemiro
    CAM: odegaard
    LF: rashford
    CF: haaland
    RF: mitoma
    Subs:
    Kane
    Ramsey
    Alexander Arnold
    Mbeumo
    Eze

    • @inquisitorsneed2
      @inquisitorsneed2 Год назад +1

      No salah?

    • @4231jerome
      @4231jerome Год назад

      @@inquisitorsneed2 yeah he could be a sub instead of mbeumo or eze. Or you could replace mitoma with him. I suppose on paper he did have a much better season than mitoma

  • @Marcello20562
    @Marcello20562 Год назад

    Neto, Trippier, Lisandro, Botman and Zinchenko, Casemiro, Odegard and de Bruyne, Salah, Haaland and Mitoma..

  • @mrfoofoo69
    @mrfoofoo69 Год назад +1

    You blew my mind when you also thought of TMNT when he said "de bruyne in the half space "

  • @boombap8910
    @boombap8910 Год назад +2

    Roberto De Zerbed it to be amongst managers of the year

  • @jl91iii
    @jl91iii Год назад +6

    "Ordinarily getting 50 goals would ensure a place in the team, however we've gone for Hoffenheims Ibrahim Gueye"

    • @enkala
      @enkala Год назад

      Did you mean Ibrahim Sangaré 😂😂😂

  • @nicholasward2209
    @nicholasward2209 Год назад +2

    As a brighton fan, having Colwill on the sub bench over dunk is the definition of football contrarianism

  • @mattjames3394
    @mattjames3394 Год назад

    I wholeheartedly love how serious you guys are taking this.

  • @mrwaltermathews
    @mrwaltermathews Год назад +1

    I like Jon's team a lot more. I'd probably have Ake in for Shaw and Saliba in for Stones though.

  • @sagarashara
    @sagarashara Год назад

    Pope
    Trippier, Saliba, Shaw
    Stones, Casemiro
    Saka, KDB, Rashford
    Kane, Haaland

  • @rmccaw7
    @rmccaw7 Год назад

    4-2-4:
    Alisson
    Trippier
    Stones
    Saliba
    Zinchenko
    Rodri
    De Bruyne
    Salah
    Kane
    Haaland
    Grealish
    Bench:
    Dias
    Shaw
    Odegaard
    Saka

  • @weichen1
    @weichen1 Год назад +1

    This is the deepest tactical XI discussion that I have seen online

  • @milesstiddard8807
    @milesstiddard8807 Год назад

    22/23 team of the season
    Gk- raya
    Cb- Saliba
    Cb- botman
    Cb- Martinez
    Mid- Bruno G
    Mid- paulinho
    Mid- KDB
    Lw- Mitoma
    Rw- Saka
    St- Kane
    St- Haaland

  • @cameron5795
    @cameron5795 Год назад +2

    respectfully both teams have a few players which shouldn't be there. mitoma? guimaraes? saka?

  • @leifschannel
    @leifschannel Год назад +24

    Not mentioning Marco Marin is a criminal offense

  • @marvelmartinsstudio7506
    @marvelmartinsstudio7506 Год назад

    Allisson; Trippier,Stones, Dunk,Estupinian ; Rodri, Odegaard,De Bruyne, Saka ; Kane, Haaland

  • @kevinrvh
    @kevinrvh Год назад +1

    I would like Thomas Frank as manager of the year. Incredible work at Brentford

  • @alitem3364
    @alitem3364 Год назад +2

    I love JJs shirts

  • @Sreeve94
    @Sreeve94 Год назад

    JJ's t-shirts man.... top notch 🐸

  • @DanielMorales-eu7ok
    @DanielMorales-eu7ok Год назад +2

    John did predict Kane would score a brace against Leeds

  • @djmattblack
    @djmattblack Год назад

    De Bruynes form dropped after the world cup, Pep even said he felt he wasnt at his best and dropped him for a few games but since he came back City went on that unbeaten run which helped them to win the league

  • @PianoManCoversJMB
    @PianoManCoversJMB Год назад +1

    'It really illustrates how Emery changed Aston Villa' - continues not to mention Emery as a potential manager of the season... LUL

  • @mhsmci
    @mhsmci Год назад +1

    My PL team of the season with no rules:
    Formation: 3-5-2
    GK: Nick Pope
    CB 1: Saliba
    CB 2: Ruben Dias
    CB 3: Akanji
    LWB: Estupinan
    RWB: Trippier
    CDM: Caicedo
    CM 1: Kevin De Bruyne
    CM 2: Odegard
    ST 1: Haaland
    ST 2: Harry Kane

    • @inquisitorsneed2
      @inquisitorsneed2 Год назад

      Keeper?

    • @mhsmci
      @mhsmci Год назад +1

      @@inquisitorsneed2 oh yeah lol

    • @mhsmci
      @mhsmci Год назад +1

      @@inquisitorsneed2 I’ll fix it

    • @mhsmci
      @mhsmci Год назад +1

      @@inquisitorsneed2 fixed

    • @shukuchimukyo892
      @shukuchimukyo892 Год назад

      No Man United players? lol

  • @alexosborn3247
    @alexosborn3247 Год назад +2

    Using 4 CBs was something Arteta did before Pep this season. Just saying

  • @Kiagoalski
    @Kiagoalski Год назад

    In line with TIFO's rules
    Team of the season:
    Allison
    Trippier Stones Martinez Shaw
    Saka Rice Guimaraes Odegaard
    Kane Haaland
    Manager: Thomas Frank

  • @gavynarmstrong6599
    @gavynarmstrong6599 Год назад +1

    .
    Alison
    Saliba Botman Martinez
    Saka Rodri Guimaraes Rashford
    Odegaard
    Haaland Kane
    I honestly think that LW, LM, LB position group is the weakest performance wise. It was basically between Rashford and Martinelli...and I honestly only had Shaw and Zinny in at LB, but a standard 433 is a bit boring. Odegaard is like 1A and De Bruyne 1B. Rice is 1B to Guimaraes being 1A. Unai Emery and De Zerbi should have a shout.

  • @AndyZhax
    @AndyZhax Год назад

    Gary and Steve have done amazing jobs at Bournemouth and Forest respectively.

  • @ARoxon566
    @ARoxon566 Год назад

    I think Thomas Frank should be in with a big shout for manager of the season. Even if it’s just for Brentford’s performances against Man City. Outside of that, what he’s done with Brentford has been nuts and they keep getting better.

  • @motiv8j
    @motiv8j Год назад

    Agree with all that. I think Lopetegui is worth a shout at Wolves along side Howe or De Zerbi - taking them from bottom of the league with some useful players sold or loaned out. Interesting how Potter would have been perceived if he hadn't gone to Chelsea. Also interesting how the Rice, Calceido, Rodri position has been well received this season. Not too long ago Kante was singled out as a superb DM, but it feels there is a depth of talent in that role now.

  • @lincolndethomasis6602
    @lincolndethomasis6602 Год назад

    My Team would be:
    Formation 4-2-3-1
    Manager Erik Ten Hag
    GK Kepa
    LB Zinchenko
    LCB Lisandro Martinez
    RCB John Stones
    RB Trent Alexander-Arnold
    LDM Rodri
    RDM James Ward-Prowse
    LW Kaoru Mitoma
    CAM Alexis Mac Allister
    RW Mohamed Salah
    ST Harry Kane

  • @chajster
    @chajster Год назад

    I like their tactical board app/software, I wonder what name it is and how to get it?

  • @doc-t-8648
    @doc-t-8648 Год назад

    The disrespect to Salah is astounding. Saka has great numbers and carried the team apparently with 13G 11A but Salah in the Same position had 19G 12A ....

  • @harryeast95
    @harryeast95 Год назад +1

    I miss the videos where you'd stick teams in Football Manager and see who'd win. You should do that with these videos.

  • @stennostenno1346
    @stennostenno1346 Год назад +1

    I want Jons sweater

  • @dubs31
    @dubs31 Год назад

    Truly the player development from teams throughout the Prem this year has been outstanding. So many "Oh yeah, him too..." to choose from.
    Similarly, the coaching standard has gone up a level across the board. It was only a few seasons ago where the Bundesliga was lauded in equal measure for the amount of tactical and critical football thinkers represented within their league. The Prem amplifies its product when results can't be assumed for sure week by week. The money is certainly a factor in it all, however the effort from coaching staffs should be given credit for making the league more interesting to engage in and watch.

  • @sjefen288
    @sjefen288 Год назад

    Jon´s Ødegård pronunciation is one of the best I've ever heard from a non Norwegian speaker.

  • @TheDarkDesire123
    @TheDarkDesire123 Год назад +1

    I’m still so pissed that they do such an in depth coverage for premier league. But the one time Milan won the Serie A it was an absolute joke of a Seri A tots

  • @davzinzan
    @davzinzan Год назад +1

    Guimaraes over De Bruyne is wild

  • @RoadsideRoamer
    @RoadsideRoamer Год назад

    What you missed was having Jacques De Bones on set u_u. And maybe the weirdly cropped ending to The Athletic's promo.
    Otherwise I'm too tired to think about it right now, but wanted to help with engagement numbers (:

  • @gtkabir
    @gtkabir Год назад

    My version with the same criteria:
    Alisson
    Stones
    Botman
    Estupinan
    Trippier
    Caicedo
    Odegaard
    Saka
    Rashford
    Kane
    Haaland

  • @brandonharris3297
    @brandonharris3297 Год назад +6

    Rice over Casemiro is criminal

  • @morrisgreen5157
    @morrisgreen5157 Год назад +1

    16:40 sorry that’s micah not mitoma

  • @Fardok
    @Fardok Год назад +1

    Never thought about Haalands goal hole

  • @fttw4401
    @fttw4401 Год назад +4

    There's something strange going on with all of these Newcastle picks for Podcast's teams of the season. Trippier's fine, but check any Newcastle fan vote for this season, Botman and Bruno are never at the top. Schär and Joelinton were our star performers in central defence and midfield. What JJ said about us not being the same without Botman is surely mistaken identity as well, it's when Schär's out that we're not the same, not Botman.

  • @SatanicBeard
    @SatanicBeard Год назад +1

    Picking Colwill is the definition of hipster. Played well when he’s played but has featured in less than half of all games..

  • @wilsonkok4754
    @wilsonkok4754 Год назад +2

    No mention of Almiron?
    For a stretch this season, he looked almost as good as prime Messi

  • @rigvedpoddar882
    @rigvedpoddar882 Год назад +6

    Not having de Bruyne in the starting 11 is crazy