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This is why I root for guilliman and his 500 world's, dude is a true underdog and sane paragon in a world of sociopathic assholes and hypocrites. Lion is a dick that always his despondent and heartless father on his side.
Sounds like they were doing some questionable warpy things too. Some blurred lines between fragmented Men of Iron tech and pseudo-Tzeentchian magic and pseudo-Vashtorr-'tech' to make up the difference.
I think this was from the Tuchulcha Engine that was just recently stolen. But... you never know what's buried in the Rock and Invincible Reason.... And also they've kind of replaced this with whatever forestwalking teleport shenanigans the lion can perform now.
The toaster diddlers when they saw the 12 mechanical nightmares: tries to use cybertheurgy on them. The 12 mechanical nightmares in unison : WE ARE NOT PROGRAMMED FOR FRIENDSHIP.
At this point, I'm beginning to suspect the Men of Iron where in fact Necons, or a better term, counterfeit Necons that Humanity created after they discovered a Necon Tomb.
@@HumsterI mean we most likely did a Make our original, make a hybrid, basically multiple tech trees or paths since variety and I believe before everything went to shit. People had a lot of time to do anything. Why not have several groups engineers and scientists make several different types of mecha or great ai
@Humster I'm not sure we could create necron level technology. Although human technology is influenced by the Void Dragon's influence, a c'tan shard in a coma. The necrontyr were turned into necrons by c'tans at their maximum power influencing their technology.
@@AliceBowie They were not the necron level, they were crude counterfake, but one man of iron defenitely can go toe-to-toe on necron and win. Because necron's bodies were created to live in them. And men of Iron were created to kill.
Before c'tan Was brought to mars the men of iron were created they existed before the mechanicum. The men of iron were created during humanity's zenith in technology. The power of the men of iron outclass all Primarks. The sheer technology that was lost during the age of darkness was mind boggling. Everything that is created nowadays use prefabricated machines. A sort of retarded AI takes whatever the mechanics think about and turn it into things. It's basically they mumble think about code and the retarded ai fabricates by interpretation. Kind of like charades with interpretive dance. And if you get it right, you get a plasma rifle. The men of iron can take hold of all machinery within their space. The dark angels don't have Is men of iron. They have something that kind of resemble something like Men of iron.. With sadomasochism tendencies.
Always found this to be one of the peak pieces of hidden ish lore. The Lion has that 'brush with heresy' pass, the use of DoaT tech is hellllla dangerous. More fire uploads ps, appreciated as ever 😊
@@ezonplays2260The humans of the dark age fought the Eldar before their Fall and the Eldar won (before the fall they were the dominant force in the galaxy). The Eldar was definitely stronger them but I'm not sure dark age humanity was THAT much stronger than a hive fleet.
@@Saktothit is the eldar just had significantly better ftl they probably did some hit and runs with their decent ambusing skills also i ain't sure but they may be able to caise warp storms
Hardly surprising that the God Emperor had plans to take out the Mechanicum (pre-Heresy Mechanicum, post-Heresy Adeptus Mechanicus). He could've brought them to heel, but the losses would've been so great that his plans for the Great Crusade would've been set back by centuries, if not millenia. After all, the Mechanicum was THE faction he needed in order to build, well, EVERYTHING. So the Mechanicum was granted incredible levels of autonomy within the Imperium, something they guard with a violent passion. But ultimately the Emperor couldn't tolerate an empire within his Imperium of Man, especially with the Mechanicum's rampant belief in the Omnissiah, the Machine God and that innovation was heresy.
@@rajukoley9249Lorgar is widely considered to be the weakest Primarch, Yet he held up the boot of a Warhound Titan to save Angron. There is no worthy opponent to a Primarch but another Primarch
Interesting fact about those White Scars that helped the Lion: They were actually mistaken traitors unaware of the wider heresy that were helping the night lordsbut switched sides and sacrificed themselves to secure a Dark Angels victory
How Humanity survived the full might and onslaught of the AIs must have been a very close thing. I wonder how many trillions died before the AIs were stopped.
@@rhoydplaz2853they did not, they created machines with organic cores that could be physically shackled but that could be linked in unison to approach an AI in terms of computational power. (Servitors and Cogitators)
Just an add on to this fantastic piece you have done, on how they actually control these abominations... 'The Excindio are kept under control by a crude severing of their logic stacks, a brutal truncation of that once limitless consciousness that keeps it bound to a single processing unit, an act akin to the blinding and deafening of any mortal scholar. Still each retains a phenomenal, if disturbingly inhuman, intelligence and is watched constantly for any sign of insubordination.'
Got a feeling that if they do expand that lore it will turn out to be Big E or maybe another perpetual made them after finding necron tech, used it to "help" humanity then lost control like most of his projects
Wow. Never knew about this taboo tidbit of Imperial history, nor just how significant the Dark Angels and El Johnson were in the Emperor's eyes. That description of the AI constructs on the field was disturbing to think of - six legged monsters of steel - that such forbidden automata were still existent and permitted for use, and that they required close scrutiny. Worrying indeed.
Just wondering if we'll EVER get to see what Men of Iron looked like.... Been waiting years. Plus I'd like to know the typical weapons and capabilities load-out.
@AliceBowie Yes I did see that one. But I was under the impression that wasn't his original appearance? That he had transferred himself into another chasis to fly under the radar.
Fron what I can gather, a "Man of Iron" is a combat protocol artificial intelligence. It can come in many different forms and models. The whole of them can be thought of as being "tools". That is; we know a hammer is different from a wrench, that is different from a power drill. They all have different names but in the end are all classified as tools.
@@importantvideos4529that was his original chassis. He's over 15 thousand years old. The only difference is he knew AI was outlawed in the imperium so he grafted an imperial Aquila on the breastplate. He's the real deal
@@alexbrowne9566 - Thanks for clearing that up. I've not had the opportunity to read the book yet, only excerpts and reviews. That's disappointing to me then. Didn't know the Men Of Iron were of such primitive design. I expected far better/superior/efficient design from that period of humanity, and definitely better weaponry, unless he removed the DAO humanity weaponry as well. But at least now I know. lol
Let us not forget the wells of Chaos and the monsters on Caliban that were used to test heroes, and these wells were guarded by an ultra secret, select set of knights called the Knights of Lupus. The construction of Hive archologies on these sites after the Emperor was reunited with the Lion led to the release of monsters (Decent of Angels). Discovery of these were what led Luther and the others sent back to Caliban as "instructors" to later become the "Fallen" (Fallen Angels).
It's in that area of "where draw you join the line?" when it comes to mechanicum robots. They operate on set routines telepathically commanded by Perturabo so not deemed a true ai
In angel exteriminatus he sends telepathic commands to their "organic wetware components"- I think his automata were essentially very powerful servitors; between a modified human brain capable of complicated subroutines and limited self direction, and that direct communication with perturabo,they could perform far more adroitly and competently than the disk-directed machines of the mechanicum.
No. They were automata directly controlled by his brain using wireless signal. His paranoïa made it so that he trusted none of his sons to be able to bodyguard him.
He'd probably just torture them. Angron would give them robot butcher's nails. Mortarian would give them computer virii. Perturabo would kill off his astartes and just use the men of iron to make a whole legion of men of iron. Horus, Magnus, and Lorgar wouldn't know what to do with them. Fulgrim would put wigs and make up on them, and tell them to make techno music.
My hope that in the future lore of 40K, is that the Imperium starts beating back the Tyranids, Chaos, and other threats because the Lion unleashes the Dark Age of Technology weapons that his Astartes currently don't have access to in the Rock and the Invincible Reason. Adding fuel to this fire, Belisarius Cawl gets a few samples of these weapons which he studies, and these studies allow him to put finishing touches on weapons and equipment that he's still working on and/or creates more mass producible and weaker versions of the Tech to give other Imperial forces.
Thabk god. Honestly couldn't stand him. Now all we need is the return of Vulcan and let him start forging old weapons and maybe some of the crazy world killing stuff he had hidden.
You know never since it was said the Lion was coming back, I couldn't help but theorize that the Lion was the emperor's actual chosen avenging son. But the eldar saw what would happen if the Lion were in charge of the imperium and it led to a future less ideal for the Eldar. So they brought back Guilliman before the Lion, so he could be the one to lead the imperium.
I like the idea the idea that the Lion would ever consider any form of alliance with the Eldar is slim. Though Guilliman has always been the one most likely to come back first imo
Leman is zero totally ankward. MAybe the most extroverted from all of them. IMO the equivalent to Leman is Curze, the difference is that Leman will wait for orders to act, while Curze will judge himself who deserve the justice of the Emperor.... but well, he got crazy and so
Theres that scene where Malcador and the Emperor are playing a game of fates and malcador questions if the Lion is a traitor or a loyalist. the Emperor looks at him shocked like is that even a question a person can have? I think thats how much trust the Emperor has in the Lion.
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your telling me that the exindio class automata is capable of killing the lion himself?!?!?! ok... i actually have new found respect on mankind's dark age of technology, i really want to know what it was like in the dark age of technology
@@seiboldtadelbertsmiter3735 lesser men of iron? and they needed the emperor himself to enslave them? dude thats kinda terrifying if you put into perspective just how powerful and smart he is, and just how powerful these things are
@@bobboberson6664 yeah i did a bunch of research into them after this video and the way they are spoken about made me thing they were individually mega powerful but that does not seem the case
Dark Angels are hands down the most powerful Legion and best in military victories as stated by lore. Love the Legion, the Chapter has a cool theme but i much prefer the Legion to current 40K Dark Angels.
@markstewardson4006 each chapter does their own missions until they are needed by the Dark Angels and then if Azriel gives them a mission they do it. They do form to Legion strength during the Arks of Omen stories. So they are still somewhat like a Legion at times but most of the time they run as chapters.
Something to also keep in mind is that these have to be some of the weaker men of iron since the men of iron ranged from space faring machines that could pull continents from planets to nanite swarms to strip people down to the bone. Personally hope that GW does some more with dark age stuff since we know that humanity at the time had time travel with the spirit of eternity and that they also had weaponized it with the flagship of mars which is a dark age ship which its dormant AI once decided to flex its muscles and made the ships armor plating shift and unleash weapons the mechanicus had never seen and had no idea were there which then fired a form of black cloud that grazed a eldar ship which then got a copy of it created several nanoseconds in the past causing the ship to destroy itself due to it. So with that time tech GW has a open book for all sorts of shenanigans.
@@RedAction333 nah, those were thunderwarriors. men of iron were some kind of ai robots that brought upon the fall of the age of technology with their rebellion. at leasts thats whats being told in the imperium now. you never know with gw what should be considered as fact.
He didn't have the interpersonal skills to make sure his brothers obeyed him. While the Emperor completely trusted the Lion and the Lion was a very gifted general, many of the primarchs did not like him, so it would be hard for him to make sure they followed him. In contrast, the Emperor also trusted Horus before he was corrupted, Horus was also a very gifted general, he was a skilled diplomat, and he commanded the respect and admiration of many of the primarchs.
The Lion was arguably the best of them he was also huge ass who grated a lot of people the wrong way whereas everyone pretty much respected and got along with Horus even the crazier ones like Cruze and Angron, I think only Corax disliked him.
Why is the Corpse Emperor so bad at forsight? Why ALL his plans fail? Why did he made so many inferior chapters, like 24 and only a few of them are worth talking about? Why is he so useless for 10000 years? Why is he not considered the dark King already? (He get fed 1000 or 10000 psykers daily, on what legal grounds?) Why can't he sense Evil/ Chaos withing his sons, why people had to tell him, that half his sons are against him? Why didn't he took any blanks with him and the Custodies on the Vengeful Spirit? Why is he the lamest of all omnipotent beings in 30 and 40k?
The 1st legion was allways ment to be the ultimate sanction. Before the Rangdan Xenocides they were bigger then the Ultramarines who closed the gap considerably by accepting legionaries from the damned 2nd and 11th legion. And even then it took a existential threat to the entire northern arm of the Imperium. Thats not even taking the Khrave and the normal compliance actions into account. Had the Rangda xenocides never happened then there was no force in the Loyalist or Traitor ranks that could come even close to matching the 1st and its sire in numbers or battlefield accumen.
I sure hope Trazyn pokeballs out a few hundred men of iron someday to really make things interesting (And a krork while he's at it but that's a different wish) :)
It took an alliance of the ENTIRE GALAXY to stop super Skynet from taking over Flipping the on switch on those things has to be a bit terrifying every time I picture the scene from the Sly version of Judge Dredd with the Hmmerstein ABC Warrior. We are going to war! WAAARRRR
40k lore can be so good, but selling priducts and keeping a power level status quo will always take priority. For instance, these men of iron are one of humanities greatest and most terrible achievements and yet the Lion (the peerless strategist that he is) had to fight the big bad personally. In the other example, instead of having men of iron slaughter countless nightlords, he sends them to "occupy" Konrad... People praise the horus heresy series... It has its moments but it's generally really dogshit, as is almost everything released in the last decade. Utter dogshit.
I heard a rumour that makes sense. The Emperor is a Man of Gold. An AI made to save humanity. Some say it was all the Mystics imbuing him. I don't know if my theory is correct but if you think it through it might be true. Let me know what you think 💯❤️🤖👌
If what we know about the emperor can be taken as truth and he returns and finds the imperium in the state it's in he is going to be pissed .... All this superstition and decay ... It'd be like spending your entire life building your dream home just to come home on the second day and find it was burned down .
I was made to exterminate everything and just make it disappear so no one could do the same ever again, because we are the angels who fly in the darkest pits to protect the light of our father,if the ironwing didn't work i put in March the ikaros sending 12 nightmares of when humanity almost loss against the abominable intelligence
The emporium really lucked out that the traitor dark angels never unleashed them against their loyalists counterparts that shit would've been devastating.
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The Lion: "Dad said I get early access to the season pass"
Guilliman: 😡
More like I was a beta these are beta rewards
@@gamedude412no these are before the beta before the alpha before production before the idea even hits the paper
Emps was bribing the dark angels because they know what he did to the Thunder warriors.. they were there.
Dark age technology is their hush money.
@@159tony No.
Only the first 10,000, "The Uncrowned Prince's" knew what happened, and most of them were taken out before the Lion came back.
This is why I root for guilliman and his 500 world's, dude is a true underdog and sane paragon in a world of sociopathic assholes and hypocrites. Lion is a dick that always his despondent and heartless father on his side.
The irony of using men of iron to destroy dark mechanicum because they researched men of iron tech
Sounds like they were doing some questionable warpy things too. Some blurred lines between fragmented Men of Iron tech and pseudo-Tzeentchian magic and pseudo-Vashtorr-'tech' to make up the difference.
It is worthy of note that the Dark Angels have access to rare & potent teleportation technology. Some of this was deployed in the Great Crusade.
I think this was from the Tuchulcha Engine that was just recently stolen. But... you never know what's buried in the Rock and Invincible Reason.... And also they've kind of replaced this with whatever forestwalking teleport shenanigans the lion can perform now.
Forest Walking
@@diddy8706hahahaha
@@scatterthewinds3126
Can’t forest walk with more than a few infantry with him.
That just got stolen by Vash'Tor.
The toaster diddlers when they saw the 12 mechanical nightmares: tries to use cybertheurgy on them.
The 12 mechanical nightmares in unison : WE ARE NOT PROGRAMMED FOR FRIENDSHIP.
At this point, I'm beginning to suspect the Men of Iron where in fact Necons, or a better term, counterfeit Necons that Humanity created after they discovered a Necon Tomb.
@@HumsterI mean we most likely did a
Make our original, make a hybrid, basically multiple tech trees or paths since variety and I believe before everything went to shit. People had a lot of time to do anything.
Why not have several groups engineers and scientists make several different types of mecha or great ai
@Humster I'm not sure we could create necron level technology. Although human technology is influenced by the Void Dragon's influence, a c'tan shard in a coma. The necrontyr were turned into necrons by c'tans at their maximum power influencing their technology.
@@AliceBowie They were not the necron level, they were crude counterfake, but one man of iron defenitely can go toe-to-toe on necron and win.
Because necron's bodies were created to live in them.
And men of Iron were created to kill.
Before c'tan Was brought to mars the men of iron were created they existed before the mechanicum. The men of iron were created during humanity's zenith in technology. The power of the men of iron outclass all Primarks. The sheer technology that was lost during the age of darkness was mind boggling. Everything that is created nowadays use prefabricated machines. A sort of retarded AI takes whatever the mechanics think about and turn it into things. It's basically they mumble think about code and the retarded ai fabricates by interpretation. Kind of like charades with interpretive dance. And if you get it right, you get a plasma rifle. The men of iron can take hold of all machinery within their space. The dark angels don't have Is men of iron. They have something that kind of resemble something like Men of iron.. With sadomasochism tendencies.
Galacian Tech-priests: "We want to see the power of AI at its peak!"
The Lion: "Aight bet."
“You shall see the full might of what an AI war machine can do, but you will only see it once!” - the Lion probably.😂
Always found this to be one of the peak pieces of hidden ish lore. The Lion has that 'brush with heresy' pass, the use of DoaT tech is hellllla dangerous. More fire uploads ps, appreciated as ever 😊
Definitely! Its amazing how often this lore gets overlooked
It's a massive deal! Use of AI endangers humanity massively, found it very surprising that Big E would even consider it.
@@michaelhawes1989 seems a little desperate
@@KakashiHatake-sv1vb 🤣
Dark Of Age Technology*
Sounds to me like an absolutely necessary weapon. A legion size force of these would tear into tyranids.
Hell, a single dark age ship could annihilate a hive fleet.
@@ezonplays2260The humans of the dark age fought the Eldar before their Fall and the Eldar won (before the fall they were the dominant force in the galaxy). The Eldar was definitely stronger them but I'm not sure dark age humanity was THAT much stronger than a hive fleet.
@ezonplays2260 the Votann disagree...
@@Saktothit is the eldar just had significantly better ftl they probably did some hit and runs with their decent ambusing skills also i ain't sure but they may be able to caise warp storms
@@Saktoth
This is only from Eldar words. And they may be lying.
Hardly surprising that the God Emperor had plans to take out the Mechanicum (pre-Heresy Mechanicum, post-Heresy Adeptus Mechanicus). He could've brought them to heel, but the losses would've been so great that his plans for the Great Crusade would've been set back by centuries, if not millenia. After all, the Mechanicum was THE faction he needed in order to build, well, EVERYTHING. So the Mechanicum was granted incredible levels of autonomy within the Imperium, something they guard with a violent passion.
But ultimately the Emperor couldn't tolerate an empire within his Imperium of Man, especially with the Mechanicum's rampant belief in the Omnissiah, the Machine God and that innovation was heresy.
Primarchs really are demigods of battle. Konrad bodied a few terrifying weapons that day.
I guess even the weakest of the primarchs is worthy opponent to the exinio.
@@rajukoley9249Lorgar is widely considered to be the weakest Primarch, Yet he held up the boot of a Warhound Titan to save Angron. There is no worthy opponent to a Primarch but another Primarch
@@olknoxlo actually angron held the Titan foot to save lorgar.
@@rajukoley9249 F-Me does it suck to be wrong but I gotta admit it, You’re right. That’s Angron’s feat.
Well, Lorgar and his sons at least managed to subvert the entire great crusade, and lead his brothers down the path of Chaos. @@olknoxlo
And yet my take away from this was that I really, really want a Dark Mechanicum army. Excellent vid as always.
Interesting fact about those White Scars that helped the Lion: They were actually mistaken traitors unaware of the wider heresy that were helping the night lordsbut switched sides and sacrificed themselves to secure a Dark Angels victory
How Humanity survived the full might and onslaught of the AIs must have been a very close thing. I wonder how many trillions died before the AIs were stopped.
The humans probably use ai against ai
@@rhoydplaz2853they did not, they created machines with organic cores that could be physically shackled but that could be linked in unison to approach an AI in terms of computational power. (Servitors and Cogitators)
@@madlarkin8other races also helped
Just an add on to this fantastic piece you have done, on how they actually control these abominations...
'The Excindio are kept under control by a crude severing of their logic stacks, a brutal truncation of that once limitless consciousness that keeps it bound to a single processing unit, an act akin to the blinding and deafening of any mortal scholar. Still each retains a phenomenal, if disturbingly inhuman, intelligence and is watched constantly for any sign of insubordination.'
We need more lore on the dark age of technology.
There's not a lot (much is kept mysterious) but I'll endeavour to cover more of it in the future
Got a feeling that if they do expand that lore it will turn out to be Big E or maybe another perpetual made them after finding necron tech, used it to "help" humanity then lost control like most of his projects
need more lore on the men of gold
@@gpheonix1 and the men of stone
@@magoschonkers711 Hopefully we'll get more on the Men of Stone with more Leagues of Votann lore.
Wow. Never knew about this taboo tidbit of Imperial history, nor just how significant the Dark Angels and El Johnson were in the Emperor's eyes. That description of the AI constructs on the field was disturbing to think of - six legged monsters of steel - that such forbidden automata were still existent and permitted for use, and that they required close scrutiny. Worrying indeed.
rumour has it there is still one more excindio on the invincible reason in a compartment only known to the lion
Mechanicus: getting rowdy
Lion: *With this treasure I summon....*
Loving all this DA/Lion content. Keep it coming!
The dark angels are my favorite faction. More to come!
Yes!
Just wondering if we'll EVER get to see what Men of Iron looked like.... Been waiting years. Plus I'd like to know the typical weapons and capabilities load-out.
Look up UR-025. He's a man of iron that got a model in Blackstone Fortress.
@AliceBowie Yes I did see that one. But I was under the impression that wasn't his original appearance? That he had transferred himself into another chasis to fly under the radar.
Fron what I can gather, a "Man of Iron" is a combat protocol artificial intelligence. It can come in many different forms and models. The whole of them can be thought of as being "tools". That is; we know a hammer is different from a wrench, that is different from a power drill. They all have different names but in the end are all classified as tools.
@@importantvideos4529that was his original chassis. He's over 15 thousand years old. The only difference is he knew AI was outlawed in the imperium so he grafted an imperial Aquila on the breastplate. He's the real deal
@@alexbrowne9566 - Thanks for clearing that up. I've not had the opportunity to read the book yet, only excerpts and reviews. That's disappointing to me then. Didn't know the Men Of Iron were of such primitive design. I expected far better/superior/efficient design from that period of humanity, and definitely better weaponry, unless he removed the DAO humanity weaponry as well. But at least now I know. lol
this is the butlerian jihan , in the story of dune
There are many parallels between 40k and dune, even down to the guild navigators and love for melee lol
Let us not forget the wells of Chaos and the monsters on Caliban that were used to test heroes, and these wells were guarded by an ultra secret, select set of knights called the Knights of Lupus. The construction of Hive archologies on these sites after the Emperor was reunited with the Lion led to the release of monsters (Decent of Angels). Discovery of these were what led Luther and the others sent back to Caliban as "instructors" to later become the "Fallen" (Fallen Angels).
Was Perturabo's iron circle abominable intelligences?
I think they were Peters creations, more slaves to his will than autonomous
It's in that area of "where draw you join the line?" when it comes to mechanicum robots. They operate on set routines telepathically commanded by Perturabo so not deemed a true ai
In angel exteriminatus he sends telepathic commands to their "organic wetware components"- I think his automata were essentially very powerful servitors; between a modified human brain capable of complicated subroutines and limited self direction, and that direct communication with perturabo,they could perform far more adroitly and competently than the disk-directed machines of the mechanicum.
No. They were automata directly controlled by his brain using wireless signal. His paranoïa made it so that he trusted none of his sons to be able to bodyguard him.
That battle of the Crucible sounds worthy of animation not gonna lie, a rare fight. If only.
That would be epic
Imagine if the emperor gave the men of iron to konrad. Think of the warcrimes
The emperor made some stupid decisions but he wasn't a complete moron
Warcrimes, you must mean great victories over foes of humanity.
@@JoshuaKevinPerryis'nt Konrad Curze a reasonable man then? 🤨
He'd probably just torture them. Angron would give them robot butcher's nails. Mortarian would give them computer virii. Perturabo would kill off his astartes and just use the men of iron to make a whole legion of men of iron. Horus, Magnus, and Lorgar wouldn't know what to do with them. Fulgrim would put wigs and make up on them, and tell them to make techno music.
@AliceBowie what about Vulcan?
My hope that in the future lore of 40K, is that the Imperium starts beating back the Tyranids, Chaos, and other threats because the Lion unleashes the Dark Age of Technology weapons that his Astartes currently don't have access to in the Rock and the Invincible Reason. Adding fuel to this fire, Belisarius Cawl gets a few samples of these weapons which he studies, and these studies allow him to put finishing touches on weapons and equipment that he's still working on and/or creates more mass producible and weaker versions of the Tech to give other Imperial forces.
Cawl is dead.
Thabk god. Honestly couldn't stand him. Now all we need is the return of Vulcan and let him start forging old weapons and maybe some of the crazy world killing stuff he had hidden.
So the lion is the emperors exterminator and Rus is his executioner
Dude I love the way you say helicopters. You Brits have the best voices, epic for anything. Not making fun either, I really mean it
I wish my dad would let me keep worldkilling superweapons in my basement
Dude is called Lion El Johnson
Its like being called John Halo lol
So you could say he got the lions share of toys
🤣🤣🤣🤣
More Lion! I wish they would bring out DA secret goodies more often.
I’m 5 minutes in and I already understand why Gulliman and the Lion are at odds with eachother
Lion is the cool brother and Gulliman the nerd brother
I would love to see them get men of iron in the future as a playable unit
Me too!
Only for the low low price of 299.99
You know never since it was said the Lion was coming back, I couldn't help but theorize that the Lion was the emperor's actual chosen avenging son. But the eldar saw what would happen if the Lion were in charge of the imperium and it led to a future less ideal for the Eldar. So they brought back Guilliman before the Lion, so he could be the one to lead the imperium.
I like the idea the idea that the Lion would ever consider any form of alliance with the Eldar is slim. Though Guilliman has always been the one most likely to come back first imo
Leman is zero totally ankward. MAybe the most extroverted from all of them.
IMO the equivalent to Leman is Curze, the difference is that Leman will wait for orders to act, while Curze will judge himself who deserve the justice of the Emperor.... but well, he got crazy and so
Lion truly the only Primarch trustworthy of the Emperor’s dankest tech 😅
Theres that scene where Malcador and the Emperor are playing a game of fates and malcador questions if the Lion is a traitor or a loyalist. the Emperor looks at him shocked like is that even a question a person can have? I think thats how much trust the Emperor has in the Lion.
@@marsmech But surely the same could have been said for Horus before he fell wasn't he the favorite.
You have a great voice for narration
You know that the Unforgiven Chapter the Consecrators gather and keep safe the relics of the Dark Angels.
Imagine what they have...
Bruh, this is the deep thrusting lore
I’ve been hearing your voice over so many videos, yet to see your face now, did not fit your amazing your voice!!
Just saying!!
Keep up the great work!!
Thank you!
wow never heard of this one
It's not a story often told
your telling me that the exindio class automata is capable of killing the lion himself?!?!?! ok... i actually have new found respect on mankind's dark age of technology, i really want to know what it was like in the dark age of technology
And just think the Excindio were lesser Men of Iron.
@@seiboldtadelbertsmiter3735 lesser men of iron? and they needed the emperor himself to enslave them? dude thats kinda terrifying if you put into perspective just how powerful and smart he is, and just how powerful these things are
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I'd say there was a lack of sufficient lighting. Thus the Dark part.
@@onisatsugaisha689 ANd yet we won that war so... Mabey don't think that much of em?
Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed it.
Great video learned a lot! Are these things still around or is it left unsaid im guessing
As I understood it… the Emperor sanctioned tech heresy for the Dark Angels only lol.
No He also gave them daot weapons of immense power.
All i saw from the title was The Lion Unleashes MEN
Also true in a way
i would love to see a real man of iron come back and see how powerful it was against the imperium now
There is one called ur-025 who wonders around the 7th black stone fortress and dislikes the imperium.
If they came back in the number's of the dark age of tech, they would smash the imperium. daot humanity was waaaaaaay over the imperium.
@@bobboberson6664 yeah i did a bunch of research into them after this video and the way they are spoken about made me thing they were individually mega powerful but that does not seem the case
Your content is 🔥.
Dark Angels are hands down the most powerful Legion and best in military victories as stated by lore. Love the Legion, the Chapter has a cool theme but i much prefer the Legion to current 40K Dark Angels.
I love me some dark angels
Aren't the Dark Angels kinda still a Legion. I think I remember reading they secretly run all the chapters descending from them.
@@markstewardson4006 they all report to Azrael of he asks and I'm sure no one will dare defy the Lion
@markstewardson4006 each chapter does their own missions until they are needed by the Dark Angels and then if Azriel gives them a mission they do it. They do form to Legion strength during the Arks of Omen stories. So they are still somewhat like a Legion at times but most of the time they run as chapters.
@@eichler721 Thanks for the clarification not read through the Ark of Omen stories yet are they worth checking out
“ The Mechanicom supplies them with arms” I bet they did! 😂😂😂😂😂
you should be narrating books or documentaries
That's very kind!
Something to also keep in mind is that these have to be some of the weaker men of iron since the men of iron ranged from space faring machines that could pull continents from planets to nanite swarms to strip people down to the bone.
Personally hope that GW does some more with dark age stuff since we know that humanity at the time had time travel with the spirit of eternity and that they also had weaponized it with the flagship of mars which is a dark age ship which its dormant AI once decided to flex its muscles and made the ships armor plating shift and unleash weapons the mechanicus had never seen and had no idea were there which then fired a form of black cloud that grazed a eldar ship which then got a copy of it created several nanoseconds in the past causing the ship to destroy itself due to it.
So with that time tech GW has a open book for all sorts of shenanigans.
I think you’re confusing the men of iron with dark age tech in general. The men of iron were simply the predecessors to the SM
@@RedAction333 nah, those were thunderwarriors. men of iron were some kind of ai robots that brought upon the fall of the age of technology with their rebellion. at leasts thats whats being told in the imperium now. you never know with gw what should be considered as fact.
@@RedAction333 nope the Men of Iron were AI constructs used during the dark age and existed in all sorts of shapes and sizes.
@@RedAction333New to the fandom? That lore doesn't check out.
If the Lion is so trusted, why not appoint him Warmaster? Could have saved a lot of trouble.
He didn't have the interpersonal skills to make sure his brothers obeyed him. While the Emperor completely trusted the Lion and the Lion was a very gifted general, many of the primarchs did not like him, so it would be hard for him to make sure they followed him. In contrast, the Emperor also trusted Horus before he was corrupted, Horus was also a very gifted general, he was a skilled diplomat, and he commanded the respect and admiration of many of the primarchs.
The Lion was arguably the best of them he was also huge ass who grated a lot of people the wrong way whereas everyone pretty much respected and got along with Horus even the crazier ones like Cruze and Angron, I think only Corax disliked him.
Why is the Corpse Emperor so bad at forsight? Why ALL his plans fail? Why did he made so many inferior chapters, like 24 and only a few of them are worth talking about?
Why is he so useless for 10000 years? Why is he not considered the dark King already? (He get fed 1000 or 10000 psykers daily, on what legal grounds?)
Why can't he sense Evil/ Chaos withing his sons, why people had to tell him, that half his sons are against him?
Why didn't he took any blanks with him and the Custodies on the Vengeful Spirit?
Why is he the lamest of all omnipotent beings in 30 and 40k?
Lots of content
to be fair lion himself is not so different from the MEN OF IRON!!! killing machine with no emotion just pure logic!!
The Lion was the Emperors answer to "fuck around and find out".
The 1st legion was allways ment to be the ultimate sanction.
Before the Rangdan Xenocides they were bigger then the Ultramarines who closed the gap considerably by accepting legionaries from the damned 2nd and 11th legion. And even then it took a existential threat to the entire northern arm of the Imperium. Thats not even taking the Khrave and the normal compliance actions into account.
Had the Rangda xenocides never happened then there was no force in the Loyalist or Traitor ranks that could come even close to matching the 1st and its sire in numbers or battlefield accumen.
I sure hope Trazyn pokeballs out a few hundred men of iron someday to really make things interesting
(And a krork while he's at it but that's a different wish) :)
Lion gets all the good toys!...actually I am kinda busy with my own thing to watch a bunch of Insane robots...so good move?
But is he in Zion?
kinda dumb that they were destroyed fighting conrad. i dont understand the writing sometimes.
Name of music 30 seconds in...it played a second time later in video. Like 15min mark
As always, amazing video buddy! 🫡
Legend! Thanks mate
Does that mean that he got the Lion's share? 😊
Nice 😂 wish I'd thought of that...
Part of the reason the dark angels and the lion himself are my favorite is that they get access to the real fun tech.
This is by far my favorite thing about Leo Lionel
Wasn't t
Peter turbos personal guard iron warriors
Ohhh yerrrrrrrrrs!
This was ace !
You've got a really nice voice, have you ever considered voice acting?
I'm not very good at accents and stuff tbh. But thank you!
It took an alliance of the ENTIRE GALAXY to stop super Skynet from taking over
Flipping the on switch on those things has to be a bit terrifying every time
I picture the scene from the Sly version of Judge Dredd with the Hmmerstein ABC Warrior. We are going to war!
WAAARRRR
40k lore can be so good, but selling priducts and keeping a power level status quo will always take priority. For instance, these men of iron are one of humanities greatest and most terrible achievements and yet the Lion (the peerless strategist that he is) had to fight the big bad personally. In the other example, instead of having men of iron slaughter countless nightlords, he sends them to "occupy" Konrad... People praise the horus heresy series... It has its moments but it's generally really dogshit, as is almost everything released in the last decade. Utter dogshit.
I heard a rumour that makes sense. The Emperor is a Man of Gold.
An AI made to save humanity. Some say it was all the Mystics imbuing him.
I don't know if my theory is correct but if you think it through it might be true. Let me know what you think 💯❤️🤖👌
god damn humas where that powerfull riviling necrons bruh
If what we know about the emperor can be taken as truth and he returns and finds the imperium in the state it's in he is going to be pissed .... All this superstition and decay ... It'd be like spending your entire life building your dream home just to come home on the second day and find it was burned down .
What exactly do they look like?
So the first son got the...Lion's share? 😅, ok I'll go.
Damn I wish I'd thought of that joke 😂
Usual 40k "it broke and we just left it there lmao" mindset, they could have recovered the broken robots and probably put a few back together.
The Lion was clearly The Emperor's second favourite after Horus
I was made to exterminate everything and just make it disappear so no one could do the same ever again, because we are the angels who fly in the darkest pits to protect the light of our father,if the ironwing didn't work i put in March the ikaros sending 12 nightmares of when humanity almost loss against the abominable intelligence
The emporium really lucked out that the traitor dark angels never unleashed them against their loyalists counterparts that shit would've been devastating.
You can't tell me the second to last Space marine from 8:06 - 8:14 didn't look like D. Trump descendant 🤣🤣
Sponsored by the leaked military secrets game! :)
He also gave Lion El'Jonson the coolest name of all the Primarchs.
🎶If not from true existence,
A total eclipse of the Sun.🎶
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Leman is kind if like a human acting like a beast while the lion is a beast acting like a human.
Dark Angles have never given a damn about the rules, have they? 🤣
um what i feel that being a traitor to use ai like that
Cool. I love the men of iron. It was great listening to an actual account of excindio in action
Luetin once pointed out that the Imperium is full of lies, remember the Tech-Priest Aldebrac Vingh?
Ohhh makes sense lion was revived with the nid threat
Dudes got that last action hero trailer voice
Is this new lore? Ive not read anything about this yet! Which books should one get to read about this stuff?
It's not that new, just under explored. The relevant books appear on the screen as I talk about them
[laughs in UR-025]
what is that epic music in the backround
Which bit, I can take a look?
Pretty much all of them were amazing
and btw , i absolutely adore your voice!@@SandmanofTerra
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Keep the good content coming!
Megamind meme, no men of iron?
So....I guess I gotta paint up some Dark Angels now? OKay
Yes... Brother!
@@SandmanofTerra I have blood Angels and 30k Imperial Fists. So it's only fair....and they have a Primarch