Catskill NY old time fiddler - 1929
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Unidentified Catskill NY old time fiddler, age 70 in 1929, from old Fox newsreel footage, posted with permission from University of South Carolina Newsfilm Library. The tune has been identified as "Boyne Hunt".
Such a treasure of a clip! A lot of people are surprised but these hardworking Hillbillies like him have always lived and to this day still roam the mountains of New York such as the Catskills and the Adirondacks. The Catskills and the Southern tier of NY overall they are part of the cultural region of Appalachia. Although the Adirondack mountains are mostly their own thing geographically and they aren't technically part of the cultural or geographic region, they are still part of the Appalachian chain/system. These hill folk are found in other mountain ranges too not just beautiful Appalachia but the Rockies, Ozarks, and ofcourse the Adirondacks as well. Our American hillbillies and women are a golden treasure, a hardworking and talented blessing of people. Thank you for this amazing video!
Dave, Thank you this clip is great!
I am not young, but when I was much younger, one
used to meet people like this man anytime yone went
off a main road between Binghamton, NY and NYC
in the northeastern corner of Pennsylvania and in the
Catskill Mountains of NY state.
That is precisely the area where folklorist Herbert Halpert collected so many songs (and some tunes) 1937-1941. His field recordings are housed at the Archives of Traditional Music at Indiana University (of all places) and they're wonderful.
man i love old time fiddle
"It's all out of tune again!"... man if this isn't a mood for anybody who's ever played, I don't know what is!
😂
Great old time video
Oh my! Old Americana, wonderful. :)
the tune the boyne hunt is actually a scottish tune ....the perth hunt. by miss stirling of ardoch in 1788.
Good stuff Dave. Could this be John Coss?
Suitably inspired, I've been using a dolly peg mute of late - it's a bit like sticking a Harmon mute on a trumpet - a sound modifier rather than making it quieter as such. Looks cool too, though not as cool as this bloke...
Thanks, I thought so too. I don't have anything else to upload right now, but if I come across more and can secure permissions, I certainly will.
Thank you 😊
Dolly peg? It looks like a clothespin to me. Is that the same thing? They were obviously having him doing the same thing for the final edit, tho that spitting and blowing before tuning is true what we in New York would call "shtick". I don't know if this guy is any more genuine than the Morris folk but certainly interesting.
I assume the director kept hoping for a better 'take'. We're seeing the 'unedited' version.
Maybe he was hoping to get a take without all the spitting.
It seems like the spitting and it being out of tune was part of the “script”
love it :D
🤘
Hi James - all I know about it is posted in the description of the video.
Brilliant! A consummate pro! Must try using a dolly peg for a mute & spitting on the pegs to help them stick. Real music - not like the jolly bourgeois Morris Dancers from 1929...
hocktuey!
Catskill as in the Village of, or the mountain area?
Trixie - I only know from the labelling on the newsreel footage, which lists the location as "Catskill NY." I have assumed that means the town of Catskill rather than the larger Catskill Mt region, but can't be sure.
Thanks, I live in Catskill, so this is a cool look back at the local old-timers.
well from the looks of where he is... is still in Catskill's nevertheless, all over around was dairy farms
The way he speaks is not common around the Mts. anymore and I guess not even his own grandchildren if still alive speak so. Born in '59 his speaking and Music learning days were during the Civil War and Post war, and he still sounds very much the Old Yankee ways
But the song is not old "first settlers" lore, or of those arriving in after removing the Mohicans in the 1820's but the mid XiX century Irish influx of their fiddlers everywhere from even before the Potato famine
@@pendragonU
English, Scots, Scots-
Irish and Irish music
is very similar.
All over the less-
travelled areas of
the Catskill Mts.
are little family
graveyards that
were once part
of hilltop farms.
The people who
lived there are
descended from
the original settlers.
Hmm ... Ulster Co.
NY -- Sounds like
Scots-Irish to me.
Thanks for posting this, Dave - it's surreal! For one moment, I thought the whole thing was a weird piece of satire... Is the dolly peg actually being used as a mute? The fiddle sounds too clear to me - and it actually almost looks as though its being used as a bridge~! :-)
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I don't think so Bob, as John Coss Sr. was born in 1901 and was based in Andes. This guy would have been born circa 1859.
Certainly doesn't sound like it's from 1929. Recording technology wasn't that good, yet.
During the Depression
people hired by the WPA
went to rural aeas and
recorded/filmed the
local culture.
This is so amusing :) Why over & over with different bits of commentary, do we suppose?
Alzheimers?
Where is this originally from?