I’ve been using my Segway GT2 for my everyday commuter..I just programmed all the speed settings to eco mode because I dont wanna choose by mistake the sport mode STDC.i don’t wanna die soon.😂
“I don’t know whether to be happy or upset at Segway…” for my choice to curb hop on a brand new scooter that I’d ridden for 1 mile after using a completely different and much less powerful scooter for 3 years. Why would you be upset at Segway? Despite apparently having decades of racing experience, after only 1 mile, you wheelied off a curb with your thumb planted full blast on the accelerator while mid-air 😂 I mean, it sucks that you got hurt, but I see nothing here that should make you upset at Segway. Heal up quick!
Appreciate the well wishes. Point of the video series is to save anyone else from going through what I'm going through. There are a LOT of people riding these that have never been on a scooter before of any kind. Also I wanted to point out the difference regardless of the power/torque increases was that they changed it from FRONT to REAR wheel drive. If they left it Front wheel drive like my ES4 this would not have happened. I received this before it was available to the public. It wasn't even listed on the website yet so I didn't have full specs. Funny they touted the new snow tires, dual rear fender so you don't get puddle spray on your back, and multiple waterproof ratings. Now the manual specs say not to ride in snow or get it wet. Go figure. Cheers and stay safe.
@@TheBatracho I think you get the higher speed, I think changing the throttle it gradually goes to the top speed than rapidly. Either way the scooter still performs so well.
I'm sorry about your accident brother, but keep in mind those particular models are " commuter " vehicles. they are not intended for jumps and wheelies ,or any other evasive maneuvers. the suspension is only there to smooth out the bumps and pot holes . feel better.
gave my p100se back after 1 month and 300km driven. Rear suspension is damaged. left arm is not working. rear fender just dropped because it came loose too. its a design fault because every one of the two suspension arms can work independently and cause the wheelaxis to tilt sideways and get loose. its a big dissapointment. i will try the GT1 now on which the rear suspension arm is a U and not two seperate arms.
Hey man I hope you get better very soon. I had some serious crashes on these scooters like you. I just got my p100s. Nice ride. Painfully heavy. Super fast. Riding it in nyc owned Xiaomi M365 ES4 ES4 Ninebot Max Ninebot Max and P100S Logged over 15,000 miles since May 2018.
Good to see a fellow NYer has the P100s. It's definitely on the heavy side. I was thinking if I should of sold my Ninebot Max especially half of my commute I take the subway
@@graffmixer I like the Max a lot. I've been lazy to make any video. If you use the subway weekly + scooter then please do NOT get the P100s. It's 72lbs. I strained a back muscle going up 2-5 stairs. Maybe consider the P65 which weights less or keep the Max. P100s is a pain in the ass bringing it inside a store. Which is why I got it. I want to see what I do not like
@@wu9223 I actually got the P100s the beginning of October and I do agree on the weight. It is pretty bulky to bring anywhere. I had the Ninebot Max and not I regret selling it. A RUclipsr "Electric Vehicle Space" reviewed a scooter the Joyor S5 and I'm debating. Its $604
Thanks. No I think it’s just a big step in torque from my old model and the fact that they moved the power wheel from the front to the rear. If they had left it on the front it would’ve been fine.
I'm not trying to be rude to the guy but to blame segway at the end there? It's his own fault he fell. Segway scooters, we're not designed to jump off curbs. If you use a product in a way, the manufacturer didn't intend, whatever happens is your own fault.
I appreciate the comments but I should provide some clarity. Here in Chicago, and I would assume other major cities we have Divvy (bikes, ebikes, and thousands of segway scooter) rental rack’s all over the city. They’re almost all located on the sidewalks so you have to ride up and down the curbs to get to them and return them. I didn’t say I was doing X-games tricks. I was simply exiting the curb as people do all day every day. Those Segway scooters are ALL front wheel drive. To do it safely weather on a bicycle OR scooter, you smoothly pop the front wheel a bit to un-weight it or you’ll crash. (there’s no shortage of videos out there showing people crashing who try to ride up and down curbs without un-waiting the front wheel.) This is standard practice when you’re a kid learning how to ride a bike. Segway reached out and offered this scooter to me before it was available to the public. I was invited to a private group and we all had to purchase via Kickstarter. While we were waiting they kept sending us promo materials and YES, they promoted this scooter as bigger, better, faster, MORE suspension (so YES as intended) as well as Multiple waterproof ratings, Treaded tires, off-road capability, better fenders to stop water spray and even suggested could be ridden in snow. So to the people that say it was not used as intended, you didn’t see the marketing materials we were sent when they pitched this new product to our private group. The GT series even showed them fishtailing. All of those rentals are front wheel drive. What I am questioning is the why they decided to switch to rear wheel drive when all of their other models are front. Especially when adding all that torque and power. Mine was and is still regulated down from maximum power because it’s in training mode until you put 3.3 miles on it which I still have not due to the accident. Yet it still had so much rear wheel torque it flipped me. I was simply doing what people do every single day with any scooter in a major city. Thank you.
Hater’s will say he’s an amateur and unsafe and shouldn’t have tried to wheelie off a curb without a helmet or protective metal shoes 👠 and knee pads and he’ll go to work and say he was in a car crash and can’t get to work for weeks because his car was damaged and the other guy wasn’t safe and had no insurance… Hater’s
So if i'm understanding correctly you ollied when you should've tuh-dur? Sorry about your fall man. Was actually just looking up reviews i have a kugoo 350w front wheel drive as well but the p100s looks interesting.
I plan to buy one, i had an etwow (front motor) for first and then bought a Ninebot Max, now i have the Max (rear motor), a Zero 8 Pro (rear) and a Kaabo mantis GT (dual 1000W) and I think the best is rear motor because often, the main brake is then in front when there is only one, and a front brake is mainly more efficient than a rear one. It is why I think Ninebot Max (rear motor and front drum brake, like the zero 8 pro that have dual brakes) is more secure than the new Xiaomi Pro 4 (front motor and rear disk brake) for example :) I think the problem is the model transition, from a 4S to a P100S is a big jump, if there was a Ninebot Max between the two, it would be better ^^ I had more "surprises" with the rear plain tire of the motor of Z8 Pro that is very different than an inflated one... Sorry for my english, i am a belgian speaking french ;) Have a good recovery
I am sorry that you hurt yourself and your warning to others should be taken seriously. The first time on sport mode the front almost lifted up and I said, "holy shit!" Lots of torque. Me and my son leave it in drive mode which is plenty good enough for us. 25MPH is plenty fast enough considering the speed limit for cars in NYC is 25 MPH anyway. Feel better. I hope your warning will help others not to get hurt.
@@graffmixer At 67 years old I feel very fortunate that I can even ride a stand up scooter with such skill. LOL. Still ride my bike 125 to 200 miles a week.
@@michaelchin3550 Wow....Thats great you're able to. Me being 42, I'm making sure I'm still active that age I'll. I also have an e-bike as well but looking to get a non-ebike if i ever find a bigger place.
Hey man I broke my collar bone in the second day I got it. I came from the ninebot max which I had for a year prior. The P100S is really powerful and can't be underestimated
I hope you are feeling better! i was looking into this scoot for me 2nd one but i was reading in europe where i am from the sell it with a speed limit at 25kmp and you cant remove it. if thats true it ruins the value of the scooter some. :(
Thanks just healing up and going through the motions as best I can. Here it’s limited to 25 mph until after you put 3.5 miles on it then it opens up to 30 mph.
Wow. Good to know. Ive been riding around on a smaller Ninebot D38U but been looking to upgrade to either this or the Apollo City pro. You have me second guessing getting this one now.
@@jasoncolliver3648 Ya I figured so. Dont want to jump a curb plant rear tire with throttle on. Makes sense. Which is ok sometimes even great riders can make mistakes. Our friend here got too used to front wheel drive. I'm still probably going to grab Apollo City Pro. I like the idea of 2WD and its a good price.
Why do you RUclipsrs continue to review and thus support a product with terrible customer support ? In all of the reviews no one discusses how dysfunctional their Chinese customer service is. There’s no one in America to properly support their product. I read tons of reviews from so called RUclipsrs. This prompted me to make up my informed decision to purchase their product. I compare this to the recent debacle of FTX and all the ensuing law suits against those celebrities who hawked and supported the company because investors trusted them. Why do you guys do that ? Why don’t you inform the consumers at large of all of a company’s overall operations not unlike an investigative reporter for an international news organization ? Think about my comment intelligently. Very unsatisfied American consumer.
I’ve been using my Segway GT2 for my everyday commuter..I just programmed all the speed settings to eco mode because I dont wanna choose by mistake the sport mode STDC.i don’t wanna die soon.😂
@@patrickgagaza4679 I almost bought that one before I decided on this one. Be safe. 🏁😎🏁
Get well soon and safe riding always sir!💪🏻👌🏻👍🏻
“I don’t know whether to be happy or upset at Segway…” for my choice to curb hop on a brand new scooter that I’d ridden for 1 mile after using a completely different and much less powerful scooter for 3 years. Why would you be upset at Segway? Despite apparently having decades of racing experience, after only 1 mile, you wheelied off a curb with your thumb planted full blast on the accelerator while mid-air 😂 I mean, it sucks that you got hurt, but I see nothing here that should make you upset at Segway. Heal up quick!
Appreciate the well wishes. Point of the video series is to save anyone else from going through what I'm going through. There are a LOT of people riding these that have never been on a scooter before of any kind. Also I wanted to point out the difference regardless of the power/torque increases was that they changed it from FRONT to REAR wheel drive. If they left it Front wheel drive like my ES4 this would not have happened. I received this before it was available to the public. It wasn't even listed on the website yet so I didn't have full specs. Funny they touted the new snow tires, dual rear fender so you don't get puddle spray on your back, and multiple waterproof ratings. Now the manual specs say not to ride in snow or get it wet. Go figure. Cheers and stay safe.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes 😂😂.
So sorry for your hurt，that‘s the reason why we provid the ECO，even hidden the "red sport mode”，wish you heal up soon and enjoy your P100S；
WOW!!! Hope you feel better. The P100S is a beast. I had to adjust the Sport mode throttle to medium on the app just because of the torque.
Good move.
Shit, thanks for the tip, I want the higher speed limit of Sport mode, but the torque (I think I have it set to max now) is kinda insane.
Thanks but got bad news today when I went to a new Orthopedic doctor. X-ray showed bone broken in multiple places and will need surgery. Stay safe.
@@TheBatracho I think you get the higher speed, I think changing the throttle it gradually goes to the top speed than rapidly. Either way the scooter still performs so well.
So, from phone Segway application we have to set things more calm. 😄
I'm sorry about your accident brother, but keep in mind those particular models are " commuter " vehicles. they are not intended for jumps and wheelies ,or any other evasive maneuvers. the suspension is only there to smooth out the bumps and pot holes . feel better.
gave my p100se back after 1 month and 300km driven. Rear suspension is damaged. left arm is not working. rear fender just dropped because it came loose too. its a design fault because every one of the two suspension arms can work independently and cause the wheelaxis to tilt sideways and get loose. its a big dissapointment. i will try the GT1 now on which the rear suspension arm is a U and not two seperate arms.
I’ve noticed a few people posting various issues with it unfortunately
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Hey man I hope you get better very soon. I had some serious crashes on these scooters like you. I just got my p100s. Nice ride. Painfully heavy. Super fast. Riding it in nyc
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Thanks but got bad news today when I went to a new doctor. X-ray showed bone broken in multiple places and will need surgery. Stay safe.
Good to see a fellow NYer has the P100s. It's definitely on the heavy side. I was thinking if I should of sold my Ninebot Max especially half of my commute I take the subway
@@Aktor2 Man! sorry. I hope it will be a quick and smooth fix. Hope you return to normal walking ASAP .
@@graffmixer I like the Max a lot. I've been lazy to make any video. If you use the subway weekly + scooter then please do NOT get the P100s. It's 72lbs. I strained a back muscle going up 2-5 stairs. Maybe consider the P65 which weights less or keep the Max. P100s is a pain in the ass bringing it inside a store. Which is why I got it. I want to see what I do not like
@@wu9223 I actually got the P100s the beginning of October and I do agree on the weight. It is pretty bulky to bring anywhere. I had the Ninebot Max and not I regret selling it. A RUclipsr "Electric Vehicle Space" reviewed a scooter the Joyor S5 and I'm debating. Its $604
i hope you are doing better. do you think if it had a bigger rear wheel fender that covers more of the wheel would avoid the accident?
Thanks. No I think it’s just a big step in torque from my old model and the fact that they moved the power wheel from the front to the rear. If they had left it on the front it would’ve been fine.
I'm not trying to be rude to the guy but to blame segway at the end there? It's his own fault he fell. Segway scooters, we're not designed to jump off curbs. If you use a product in a way, the manufacturer didn't intend, whatever happens is your own fault.
I appreciate the comments but I should provide some clarity. Here in Chicago, and I would assume other major cities we have Divvy (bikes, ebikes, and thousands of segway scooter) rental rack’s all over the city. They’re almost all located on the sidewalks so you have to ride up and down the curbs to get to them and return them. I didn’t say I was doing X-games tricks. I was simply exiting the curb as people do all day every day. Those Segway scooters are ALL front wheel drive. To do it safely weather on a bicycle OR scooter, you smoothly pop the front wheel a bit to un-weight it or you’ll crash. (there’s no shortage of videos out there showing people crashing who try to ride up and down curbs without un-waiting the front wheel.) This is standard practice when you’re a kid learning how to ride a bike. Segway reached out and offered this scooter to me before it was available to the public. I was invited to a private group and we all had to purchase via Kickstarter. While we were waiting they kept sending us promo materials and YES, they promoted this scooter as bigger, better, faster, MORE suspension (so YES as intended) as well as Multiple waterproof ratings, Treaded tires, off-road capability, better fenders to stop water spray and even suggested could be ridden in snow. So to the people that say it was not used as intended, you didn’t see the marketing materials we were sent when they pitched this new product to our private group. The GT series even showed them fishtailing. All of those rentals are front wheel drive. What I am questioning is the why they decided to switch to rear wheel drive when all of their other models are front. Especially when adding all that torque and power. Mine was and is still regulated down from maximum power because it’s in training mode until you put 3.3 miles on it which I still have not due to the accident. Yet it still had so much rear wheel torque it flipped me. I was simply doing what people do every single day with any scooter in a major city. Thank you.
Hater’s will say he’s an amateur and unsafe and shouldn’t have tried to wheelie off a curb without a helmet or protective metal shoes 👠 and knee pads and he’ll go to work and say he was in a car crash and can’t get to work for weeks because his car was damaged and the other guy wasn’t safe and had no insurance… Hater’s
Have a fast recovery 🙏 💪
Thanks 🙏
So if i'm understanding correctly you ollied when you should've tuh-dur?
Sorry about your fall man. Was actually just looking up reviews i have a kugoo 350w front wheel drive as well but the p100s looks interesting.
Haha something like that. Thanks. Be safe on whatever model you decide to go with.
I plan to buy one, i had an etwow (front motor) for first and then bought a Ninebot Max, now i have the Max (rear motor), a Zero 8 Pro (rear) and a Kaabo mantis GT (dual 1000W) and I think the best is rear motor because often, the main brake is then in front when there is only one, and a front brake is mainly more efficient than a rear one.
It is why I think Ninebot Max (rear motor and front drum brake, like the zero 8 pro that have dual brakes) is more secure than the new Xiaomi Pro 4 (front motor and rear disk brake) for example :)
I think the problem is the model transition, from a 4S to a P100S is a big jump, if there was a Ninebot Max between the two, it would be better ^^
I had more "surprises" with the rear plain tire of the motor of Z8 Pro that is very different than an inflated one...
Sorry for my english, i am a belgian speaking french ;)
Have a good recovery
Thank you for the comment and well wishes. No worries, your English is fine. I appreciate the feedback.
I am sorry that you hurt yourself and your warning to others should be taken seriously. The first time on sport mode the front almost lifted up and I said, "holy shit!" Lots of torque. Me and my son leave it in drive mode which is plenty good enough for us. 25MPH is plenty fast enough considering the speed limit for cars in NYC is 25 MPH anyway. Feel better. I hope your warning will help others not to get hurt.
Exactly...I don't go more than 25 MPH in NYC
@@graffmixer At 67 years old I feel very fortunate that I can even ride a stand up scooter with such skill. LOL. Still ride my bike 125 to 200 miles a week.
Thanks but got bad news today when I went to a new doctor. X-ray showed bone broken in multiple places and will need surgery. Stay safe.
@@Aktor2 Sorry to hear. I will be proactive and safe when riding. Just witnessed a crash between a scooter and car last night.
@@michaelchin3550 Wow....Thats great you're able to. Me being 42, I'm making sure I'm still active that age I'll. I also have an e-bike as well but looking to get a non-ebike if i ever find a bigger place.
Hey man I broke my collar bone in the second day I got it. I came from the ninebot max which I had for a year prior. The P100S is really powerful and can't be underestimated
That sucks bro. I hope you feel better and heal up soon. Be safe.
@@Aktor2 You too, man!
That's terrible. So sorry you got hurt. I will not underestimate the p100s.
Try a dualtron storm limited and you won't say that lol
I feel for you mate. Hopefully you'll be on BOTH feet in no time.
Thanks hoping so
Praying for you 🙏
I hope you are feeling better! i was looking into this scoot for me 2nd one but i was reading in europe where i am from the sell it with a speed limit at 25kmp and you cant remove it. if thats true it ruins the value of the scooter some. :(
Thanks just healing up and going through the motions as best I can. Here it’s limited to 25 mph until after you put 3.5 miles on it then it opens up to 30 mph.
Overconfidence is a killer
Wow. Good to know. Ive been riding around on a smaller Ninebot D38U but been looking to upgrade to either this or the Apollo City pro. You have me second guessing getting this one now.
It's a commuter scooter. Not for jumping curbs. Don't do anything stupid and you'll be golden. It's a great scooter.
@@jasoncolliver3648 Ya I figured so. Dont want to jump a curb plant rear tire with throttle on. Makes sense. Which is ok sometimes even great riders can make mistakes. Our friend here got too used to front wheel drive. I'm still probably going to grab Apollo City Pro. I like the idea of 2WD and its a good price.
You didn't think !
Same thing. Happened to me with a dog spent a month in hospital
How much you want for it bro
Still deciding if I want to sell it. I’ll let you know.
Sorry you were injured. Cool looking scooter though.
У меня он сломался попалам 😢рама слабая очень ,и нет запчастей нужных
@@4Stas I’ve been seeing a lot of that lately on social media. I would reach out to Segway and complain to see if they can offer any solutions.
if he is really a travis pastrana knock of... kinda shoulda knew that whats is the behaviour of a rear vehicle...
You could say the same thing to Travis yet he still crashes all the time and is constantly getting injured. I think he has a record for broken bones 😎
Why do you RUclipsrs continue to review and thus support a product with terrible customer support ?
In all of the reviews no one discusses how dysfunctional their Chinese customer service is. There’s no one in America to properly support their product.
I read tons of reviews from so called RUclipsrs. This prompted me to make up my informed decision to purchase their product.
I compare this to the recent debacle of FTX and all the ensuing law suits against those celebrities who hawked and supported the company because investors trusted them.
Why do you guys do that ? Why don’t you inform the consumers at large of all of a company’s overall operations not unlike an investigative reporter for an international news organization ?
Think about my comment intelligently.
Very unsatisfied American consumer.