The Best Way to Root Hoya! | Propagating Hoya with 8 Different Mediums *Comparison*
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2020
- Hey y'all! I started rooting these puppies on August 3rd. It's been about 2 weeks since then and I decided to let y'all know what's up! I start school in a week so I didn't think I was going to be able to show y'all the progess in a month, but they started so quickly I figured it was the perfect time to show y'all what happens with all the mediums! I also want to try a couple more ways to root, including rockwool, but so far this is what we have! I hope it was helpful and that you learned something! Don't be scared to propagate your hoya, it's literally so so so easy. I tried to root in the most convenient way possible, just under artificial light, and with the ziplock bags around the pots, that was you guys can recreate the process easily. Nothing special was done to any of these plants, and I think you guys can all try it out too! Thank you guys so so sooo much for watching!
Plants mentioned:
Hoya pubicalyx
Hoya lacunosa
Mediums mentioned:
Vermiculite
Perlite
Leca
Coco Husk
Potting Soil
Coco Coir
Tap Water
Rain Water
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Hi friends!! Hope you liked the video!! These cups were all placed into two large tented ziplock bags and placed in an average area of a house. I didnt do anything special to them because I wanted to control an environment in which everybody could use to root! They got light from a fluorescent light 😄 If you have any questions just let me know!! 💚💚
😂😃😬Bloopers I thought you swallowed a fly. Lol
😂😂😂 I just choke on my saliva I guess lol
in indonesia. we use live moss/water/coco chip to propagate hoya 😁
Lessya’s Leaves Glad your ok. 😃 I have to tell ya, I got a Rosita!! It’s on it’s way! Thanks for sharing info on your collection. 💚💚💚😍😃
Your so pretty 🌺🦩🐚🌱💚
I’m from the Philippines and we have so many orchid species here and also Hoyas . In the wild here, you don’t see hoyas growing in the soil, they grew in the big trees. In my grandmother’s backyard we have big and very old mango tree and there there are few orchids and maybe 3 different hoyas growing in the trunk and branches of that tree. Even some interesting ferns. My grandma sometimes propagate hoyas and dischidias. She’s using coconut husk that’s wet. She said coconut husk is perfect because it’s like mimicking there natural habitat. Sometimes she mix it with charcoal. And she just leave it outside. No need for containers for humidity. Maybe because we have more vegetation here and also it’s very warm here that’s why it’s getting enough humidity already even it’s in the open. Grandma’s hoyas are growing wild and there’s always flowers.
How interesting thank you so much for the info! 💚💚
I guess you're really lucky to live in that kind of climate. 😊 Where I live it gets rather dry and the temperatures change a lot between seasons ( up to 35/40°C in summer and -10°C in winter). Last week we had +40degrees and it was storming and hailing. Global warming makes things kinda crazy. That's why it is more to root delicate young plants from more equally warm regions without keeping the warmth and humidity in check with some kind of help like a green house or some a zip lock bag.
Que muchas plantas bellas hay en Filipinas!
Wow, this tree sounds absolutely beautiful!
Thanks for that info.
I've started propagating with vermiculite a few months ago. It's so easy, and so far it's always been a success for me. Every type of plant that I've propagated in vermiculite has developed roots, and rooted really fast. Even ZZ's! I love it! ❤️
Ooo Im happy you like it!! I wonder why more people dont talk about it 🤔💚
Yay! I am getting a bag of vermiculite in the mail and will try with the variegated ZZs cuttings.
Fun fact, they actually ran a study on ZZ propagation including best mediums for bigger rhizomes and what rooting hormone blend and concentrations produce roots fastest- they got it down to 20 days average for roots etc on ZZ cuttings in the study. The best soil mix was a peat blend from what I remember - it produced bigger rhizomes than any other method even compared to coir they even showed with leaf cuttings what ways to cut to produce the most rhizomes etc and for every method they used they had a 90-100% success rate to producing at least 1 viable rhizome per cutting.
I place perlite in a ziplock back, spritz the bag & the perlite, make sure that the lower stem is covered, blow air inside of it. Zip it up & I get roots in a week. I keep it in another week. No gnats! I Love it. Leca takes A LONG time for me.
I used perlite that way and all of my plants rotted 😔 Ive heard a lot of people say the same though! I think leca in a humid container roots suppperrr fast for me!
@@LessyasLeaves I think that it may be due to the quality of the perlite? I do not know, I am a novice learning about these beautiful plants.
Have u tried pumice?
I have a deep love-hate relationship with moss 😅 It has the highest success rate for me, but yeah, sitting on the ground, removing 14 cups full of it without damaging roots leaves me with such a crick in the neck! 😫 & YES! HEAT MAT=GAME CHANGER. I have mine on a timer along with a grow light in order to simulate warm days & cool nights.
Lol!! Yesss!! 💚💚
Yay, I’m soo glad that you finally made this video! I loved it so much!
Moist soil in large ziplock bag has been 100% success rate for me! And super easy to take the rooted cutting and pot it up. The transition to adapt in potted soil is so much quicker for the plant too!
i love your vibes so much! i really struggle to absorb plant info because sooo many people in the plant community assume you already know x or y OR act super snobby about it- asking questions is often asking for verbal abuse. but you seem so kind and genuine 🥺 i feel like im chatting with a friend about our lil babies instead of being lectured for doing something different. thank you so much for the video!
Love this video! So excited to see all those different methodes x
Soil works the best for me on my hoya's. Love you're clear containers! Have a great week🦋
Thank you!!! 💚💚
Great information! Thanks for taking the time to do this experiment for us!
Thank you for watching!! 😭💚
That’s weird tbh. I have more success with sphagnum moss. Most of my hoyas rooted in less than a week. I just use the transparent take out containers I got from IGA😂. Put the moistened moss, placing the cuttings on top, not even sticking the nodes in, closed the lid sealed. Placed the container near window with lots of very bright light. It’s developing high humidity inside. In 3 days you’ll see tiny roots and in the fifth day you’ll see longer roots with tiny hair-like thingies😃. Then I will transfer them to soil. And they’re great!
I don’t like water propagation as I don’t have patience for it. It takes a least 2 weeks to get roots, sometimes a month. I’d rather stick the cuttings straight to my potting mix than water propagate them.
Interesting! I think it must be something in the water because Ive never had cuttings take long to propagate with it. Try rain water! 😄
Saaame! And my plants always seem to rot in water 😕
So much information! These experiment videos are amazing.
Love this video. So detailed & thorough. Awesome!
Oh darn, looks like I will have to pick up a box of Ferrero Rocher 😋.
Super helpful video! Thank you for the picture comparison at the end.
Haha thank you!! 💚💚
I'm from India,it's great to see a nursing student nurturing Hoya too.me too belongs to same arena for 10 years now & now for last few months gone crazy on hoyas ...thanks for educating a lot on propagation...you are an expert on hoyas ..keep it up..impressive 💓💓
Hooray for your Ferrero Roche box! Thank you for the great video. I love your little 3-tray. That's really brilliant to put one on top of the other! Great idea. For me, I have the best success with jar of leca with about an inch of water at the bottom. I do like to experiment but not with expensive hoyas!
Ugh I’m RIGHT there with you and with moss. I’m just not on the moss train and I don’t see myself ever getting on that train. I loved these experiments by the way! Such a fun video
Haha yes girl!! Thank you!! 💚💚💚
GREAT VIDEO!!! I love seeing experiments like this it is so fascinating :) it would be cool to see an experiment comparing how quickly different Hoya cuttings grow in the same conditions.
I didn't know I needed this video until I watched now so glad I did!! This video was sooo interesting and helpful! Thank you 😁 the vermiculite and rain water looked the best to me, I use leca and water and has always done the trick for me! May have to pick up some vermiculite 😁
Hi Lessya, awesome video. I love your makeup today. You look beautiful. Thank you 💚
Btw it's peat that is a non-sustainable industry. Sphagnum moss is a sustainable medium because it can be farmed in a responsible way and doesn't involve disturbing the 1000+ year old bogs.
What a great video! Thank you😁
Priscila Reyes thank youuu for watching! 💚💚💚
Great info and video. New fan!
use sphagnum moss as a cover/topping to help keep the moisture higher in perlite! i’ve seen personal success with that and so have many people i know
Cold and wet media and no air circulation equals to rot🤪. My first hoya cuttings was rooted in moss. Tried water and soil. Wet soil is good in warm areas with good ventilation. Love your channel. Good Info👍
It's interesting how different potting mix work for different people. I personally love moss. A couple years ago I put all my orchids on Moss so I don't have to water them often. They love it. But we gotta stick to what works for our plants (:
"Absafrickinlutely"
Haha thank you! 💚💚💚
Absofrickinglutely..
YES TEACH US YOUR WAYS HOYA QUEEN 🌿💚
Hahaha happy to teach 😂😂
Lessya’s Leaves Next you need to show us how you snag Hoyas from ninja restocks and on FB 😂 I can't ever get my hands on them!
Thank you. I knew you would have a video of different rooting mediums. Going to do the rain water and the leca way. As an experiment I'm going to try peet moss as well. Making sure that I watch carefully to make sure I don't go directly to root rot. ❤️❤️🌱🌱
Super interesting test!
Thanks so much for this video! When you root using LECA, or any medium, do you use special nutrient water? Or just regular water?
I love those take out containers, and rain water.
Hello, amazing video! I have a question about laying a long "mother" stem with multiple nodes directly ontop of a medium... if all the nodes root, will it eventually grow new stems/leaves from those nodes or do I need to cut the parent stem into multiple segments once it roots?
I think cutting might be faster but Ive noticed it can lead to multiple growth points too 😄
I was holding my breath through to you mentioning your thoughts on water 😂 I have had such bad luck in sphagnum, and ended up losing the cuttings I had in it or had to move them to water, where they thrived. I think with repotting after sphag OR vermiculite, you should be carefully to have it all off because vermiculite will do the same holding extra moisture. I think I rotting in water is directly related to how frequently you give fresh water, but I know some swear by never changing the water and never having rot. I think that's playing with fire. I have many Hoya cuttings right now in water, and they are all rooting away noticably day to day, it will continue to be my go-to 💚
Wow apparently I think a lot 😬🤡
Lol!! Yes I definitely think water is easy and I do well with not changing my water out at all 😂 Im happy you love it!!!
I agree with you, on the moss. I hate having to be so careful taking it off the new roots. It makes me so nervous. 😬😥💚😃
Yesss 😩 It gives me all kinds of anxiety lol
Lessya’s Leaves Me too!! 😩💚😃lol
Here in the Philippines, we have lots of coconuts and it is only natural that coconut husk is used in orchid and hoya propagation...what i do is cover the cut end of the hoya stem with wet/moist soft coconut husk and secure it with a rubber band....then place the stem in a humidity dome....i get almost 100% success rate....when there are roots already i transfer the stems to my desired growing medium which is a mixture of coconut husk and charcoal...
Oh yeah husk is so nice!! Thank you! 💚💚
It's SO refreshing to see someone honestly say they do not prefer a certain popular medium like moss😄 I've never tried it in propagation nor in a moss pole, and it really intimidates me. I've had hard time believing it's as awesome as a lot of channels make it sound like. Or maybe I've just rejected it because it's not quite easy to get my hands on so I've subconsciously decided I don't care to try.
I like propagating things in perlite in a cup with holes at the bottom, inside another cup with water reservoir. Sometimes I kickstart the rooting in water and then move to perlite. Some of my plants live in setup like this semi-permanently. And with sufficient nutrients added whenever the water gets topped off they grow just nicely too. The fact that the main prop cup has drainage means I can fully flush the perlite if needed, in case of pests or other issues. The water lasts pretty long too, and this way I've had zero issues with the perlite drying too quickly. If the plant is unrooted, I have the water level quite high, say 4/5 of the reservoir filled. Then I lower the water level according to growth, topping it around halfway up and trying to let it decrease to 1/4 or 1/5 before topping off with fresh water. I've used seramis in similar setup, but haven't quite mastered it yet.
Excellent video idea, thank you 💋
Love watching it and with you using the licca?it showed me more about it i might try it soon
Very nice work
Love your video
Weird! I do moss with water and superthrive and just lay hoyas on top and the ambient humidity in my clear storage bin gets them throwing out roots like crazy. I just ignore it and never open or air it out. Maybe I'll try leca in the box next time but sphagnum just increases ambient humidity so well. The moss absorbs the moisture if there's too much and puts out moisture when there's not enough which leca doesn't do.
Loved this!!!
Have become a mad scientist nerd???🤣
Lol! Yes! Plants are fun 😂💚
"This is like pure darkness" haha so accurate when it comes to rooting in soil :p
I was gifted both a cinammomifolia and macrophllya albo. Each have easily a 12” long stem with only a single leaf on each stem. There are some multiple bumps on the stems at various places. Would you just bury the majority of the stem in perlite or moss until roots appear , then plant the entire stem or cut it ? Lastly is it possible to get more plants out of these stems , even with only one leaf ?
Sorry if I missed a comment where someone also asked. For each did you just wet each medium or did you put water in the cups halfway or what was your method with the water?
I subscribed because I super resonated with the moss hate
i think vermiculite and rain water rooted the best! i usually do leca or water! but have recently tried perlite. i 100% agree with you - i HATE moss. i have never tried vermiculite, but i might now!
Yay for agreeeeing 😂😂 we are the same!! Thank you for watching!! 💚💚
When you propagate in leca do you need to fertilize them?
If you cover the perlite around the rim of the cup with like press and seal and just leave the cutting up above it the perlite won’t dry out so fast (: just a tip if u wanted it to last longer!
Hi with the lecca & perlite do u just add water to that all the way to the top or how never done this ??
Did you make holes on the bottom of the cup? And do you water the cup?
Years ago, I was given a cutting of a Hoya from a friend. I potted it. It did well, then stopped growing. Googled: "Why is my Hoya not growing?" and poor light looks to be the answer. Then, I stumbled on this channel. Saw your 'How to make Hoya Soil' video, I will never buy Miracle Grow products ever again, and will pass the word. Now watching, 'How to propagate Hoya'. Two things you mentioned the words "gnarly" which is very my generation, and "Everyone and their mother" and I burst out laughing. Very enjoyable, relaxing and educational channel. Subscribed. Looking to learn lots on plants here. Professor M.
Fascinating I have some vermiculite I may try that! The simplest way for me though was actually water! I didn’t have to buy anything , just cut off an existing plant.
I have done water and sphagnum moss for a couple of hoyas. I actually started them in water with minimal success. I moved them to moss and they took off. I am thinking to try vermiculite since I have a full bag that I bought accidentally. This made for a very interesting experiment and I am glad that you did it!
Oo yes! For sure try it out if you have it!!
Do you stick them into the moss? Or put them on top of it?
@@xyz-pg3zd I stick them into the damp moss.
@@lisapettit7334 I'm having a hard time moving them to soil after. Do you have any tips for that too?
Question I just bought Leca do I need to add anything to my Leca or just put water ?
I always keep the moss moist, and when I am repotting I put it in a cup of warm water, normally the spagham will just gets loose and fall off. Also never in soil, lol. If its Spagham moss is dry, not good. Bag method is a good one, I keep a wire hanger like a cage to keep it away from the edge, gallon or 2 gallon works for me. I love using plastic take out, muffin containers. 🥰💕
i have a hard time rooting hoya bella, any advice? i find they dont do too well in high humidity, any advice?
Oh no a good reason to buy Ferro Roche lol tfs this experiment, different things for different lifestyles. I do love Leca became I can see what’s going on tfs
Hahaha 😂 yess! I love that about it too!
I’ve always just used water to propagate
This year I done my first hoya plant the hindu rope
I had it water for about 2-3 months had a bush of roots 🥰
I just got one any tips m
I use a hybrid version of 50/50 soil/perlite in my take out containers. I’ve had good success with rooting Hoya, no success with just water (due to impatience!?) and I don’t have resources for the leca or others right now. I tried the bag method but it’s too floppy and messy. I did use moss for my SOH ala Harli and that works awesome. So I try not to be married to one way or another. I’m thinking of chopping my macrophylla but a little scared, it took me awhile to get it right but it’s only one long vine and I’d love it to be a big boi someday!
Love the video 💕🌿💕
Thank you!! 💚💚
Heyo, new plant friend here (just subbed) you’re freakin’ gorgeous girl!!
I like using spagnum in a prop box. I root Hoyas in water though. Haha I also don’t wait for anything to callous over. I seal it with Ceylon cinnamon (antibacterial properties) I use soil, orchid bark, perlite and a coco husk mix. Foxfarm ocean forest is too “hot” for seedlings. I learned the hard way with my poor cannabis plants lol I switched to foxfarm happy frog soil. I love these experiment type videos! Great job!! 💚🌿🌱🍃🌵
Yeah most people mix FF down to 1/3 with a promix etc. Happy grog is mich lighter.. I use straight promises but put a small layer of very diluted organic soil I cooked on the bottom of a cup and sems to work well.
I've been water propagating the bella veriagata 'luis bois' that you gave me and it's doing great! But I definitely want to try leca for my next cutting and just leave the plant in leca so it's less stress on me and the plant 😂
Yay!! Happy to hear that!! 💚💚💚
I like to root in LECA for Hoya. I love Anthuriums and they do best in my experience in moss. I have some that just permanently live in moss. I cannot stand Perlite. It dries out and I have had things rot hardcore in it. Hoya have too delicate of roots for moss I feel like. They throw fits if you mess with their roots. Where did you get that little 3 part clear container?
Dollar store
do you use moist vermiculite or do you add a small amount of water to the cup?
Daaaaamn I’m going to have to try the leca box. My sphagnum box is uhhhhh not going great 😬 too much rot
There are quite a few Hoya RUclipsrs, who are also in nursing school. Interesting coincidence.
Those little 3 set of containers,...do those have holes in the bottom that you then set into a bit of water, or do you just add a lot of water & use the Leica to hold the plants in it? I guess I'm just confused about how much water is in there?
I just have some water at the bottom 😄💚
Hallo when you use leca do you give fertilizer?
Dah I started loving perlite and now you were saying it’s your least fave 😣 but thanks for more info about propagating 😋
Alyssa could you make a video showing step by step how you set up your leka how much water and if you have holes in the container?
have you ever tried rooting in PON??? any opinion on it?
Where did you get that container with 3 compartments from?
I tried rooting a callistophylla in moss and it had root rot after a couple of days! I switched it to leca and it grew new roots almost overnight! It was my first time propagating in leca and I don’t think I’ll be going back to moss.
Yaaaay! Im so happy you got good results! 💚💚
I do perlite in zip lock bag and it stays moist and roots super super fast for me
Never have I ever rooted a plant because of moss, I love using it, especially for my hoya!
You heard my prayers 😭🙏🏼
Happy to help!!! 💚💚💚
I second that 😭
She is awesome, I have learned a lot from her videos.
Will you update this with pon as well?
Um what’s the difference between coco coir and husk?
What are the plants in the background and to your right? They are really nice. I would like to have specimens like those
Looks like a scindapsus pictus exotica, or even a scindapsus pictus silver lady.
Also you have the Raphidophora tetrasperma, and the Monstera Deliciosa
Hey guys :D Do you know what should I do with soft-stemmed hoyas? Water, coco coir, leca, perlite, coco husk, soil - I rotted so many of them XD My friend got me a cutting of hoya GPS 7731, its beautiful, but it has a soft, kinda fuzzy stem. What should I do? Im so scared to rot it again ;_;
You definitely need to try perlite again I don’t know what you mean at all with the maintenance.
I water one a month+ I have a bunch of leafs in one cup all rooted and I’ve honestly watered it ONCE.
It’s been like 3 months :) I love how little work perlite is I have big containers and not only do they root they flower and things like a Rotundiflora cutting in there that decided to grow another 3 nodes and a new leaf on one of those new nodes within 2 months.
Aww you look so beautiful 😍
Hey have you tried fern tree fibre?
How much water should you put in the perlite cup?
I put the same as the leca, about half or just slightly below where the cutting ends
I just throw moist moss in a bin with a lid, and throw the cuttings on top of the moss.
Also if the root is attached to the moss. Super easy
I have so many of these things and don’t know what to do with it 😅 thanks now ima go cut all of my plants lol😂
Hahaha good luck!! Im sure they’ll all do great 😂
Hey! I am currently rooting a mathilde cutting in spagnum moss for the first time and I am not loving it. I did exactly what you did and just ripped half of its root system off. I’m so tired of the moss and want to switch it to water but I’m scared it might not be a great idea to make it transition after loosing roots. Do you have any advice?
It’s too bad she never answered you. But what ended up happening with your Mathilde cutting?
@@TheQueensWish i believe i ended up rerooting it in the spagnum! it’s in dirt now and still hanging in there :)
@@ninaberger9713 Ok, at least it’s still going. That’s great. I was wondering because I’m doing some Obovata cuttings in water. I’m prepared to switch over to moss or vermiculite if nothing happens. Someday I’d love to have a Mathilde too.
I think Coco husk and Potting soil contains nutriens. If a root starts to grow and is immediately feedet, it grow much slower, because it has no need to grow a bigger root system to feed the hole plant. Hope you understand my meaning, my english is not the best ^^ Greatings from germany!
Coco husk is also more environmentally sustainable than a lot of other mediums!❤️
I'm not sure anymore.. Coco takes a lot of transportation to get to me.
How much water are you keeping in you leca container?
Tried Leca, small seramis, water and soil. Got some good result with everything except soil. Soil seems to take for ever and you don't know what's going on.
I'm trying moss and leca for the first time today as my bella and pauciflora cuttings just won't root in water! I thought you were meant to lay the cutting onto the moss in a container with a lid? I'm thinking the cup is holding too much water and packed too densely for the moss to work properly. I'm trying 1 cutting in leca, 1 in moss and the last one can stay in the water. It's a race to see which one roots first 😂
I'm glad you've shown other mediums or substrate ideas for people to use. Sphagnum moss. Is not an endless supply. Once gone gone. Summer Rayne mentions it. And not many other youtuber talk about that. And then usually its left with soil or water. But you can definitely enjoy root growth with different mediums.
I have 100% Success in moss in a tote prop box however I don’t like that it it sticks to the roots but Leca sticks too and I just hate leca! I decided recently to root my Hoya in soil that I plant in them man I don’t have water roots to try to harden off. It is doing so awesome so far. I have rooted numerous Hoya in a week in soil! I will stick to that method in a tote prop box!!
Do u just add water to the Mecca?
Are you making your own macrame hangers?
Are there drainage holes in your small pots?
There arent! 😄