351 2V Cleveland/Toploader “the fastest kid in HighSchool” 90s
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Most of you guys who have followed my vids, community posts & chats about my early 2V headed Cleveland stuff……well here it is “the beginning” well before Licensed to Drive prepping my first 350hp Cleveland Ford.
Cool, I had some sketchy home videos myself that I tried to save to VHS, most looked like this one. Thanks for sharing, nice ride.
I’m sad that a lot has been damaged or didn’t come out🤷🏻♂️, right on gb57 👍🏼🏁
Cool history, kind of like me got Cougar at 16, built my first Cleveland with my dad. Love the video visual effects ☺️
Thanks DBG👍🏼 you’ve been doing it longer than me…… got a lot footage’s that didn’t come out🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️, upset a little about it but hey, what ya gonna do right?…. I used to be a 2V guy at the start until the $ for a pair of 4Vs came to play🏁
@@69JANKS No worries mate, maybe a little bit longer, yes more footage is always cool. When I was that age, they did not have any video, or phones, should say they had the Motorolla bag phone was just being developed. keep it rocking
Hi I used to do quite a few Windsors in the '80s and very early '90s out of a workshop at Seven Hills called Thunder Road Engineering (TRE), hope you remember the 2V 351, I did for Dave & Adam Dentons purple XY. It had a John Cain 2V tunnel ram, C4, 9 inch. A few interesting facts about the car- it was originally a white XW Fairmont 302 that Dave had brought BRAND NEW.
The STD block (it was never bored), rods, and crank came from John Koolbanis (C&B engineering) daily driver Fairlane amazingly it still had a perfect virgin bore, after-market fasteners, quality stock size valves, flat top forged pistons, and probably a 236/242 cam with 550 lift oil pan, windage tray, manifold splash tray, electronic ignition, good balancer. As an experiment, I spent a lot of time matching each port to its cylinder position and it probably had a specific left and right head, the cambers were also given an extensive workout. Piston-to-deck clearance would have been tight as lumpy pistons cost a lot and had flame front problems. The C4 original to car, had a converter (2800rpm?) Trans Go shift kit, new std rebuild clutches and bands. I think the gear ratio was 4.33 ??. The funny thing was it used 24.5 x 10.5 x 14 slicks that I had brought secondhand about 8 yrs earlier.
Nitrous times were 10.78, but interestingly consistent non-nitrous times was 11.2 sec- had we ever sorted out the nitrous it would have been a high 9-second street car in early 1991 at Eastern Creek. I think the flywheel horsepower was probably only 420 to 450, tunnel rammed it would have had a huge amount of torque, plus 2 nitrous plates (the reason we used a low fatigue std bore block), plus 4.33s, and out-of-the-hole it could carry both wheels a few inches off the ground for a significant distance. No parts or labor on the build were sourced more than 20 km from home. Job done, ( run at 10 sec pass), they sold the car and moved on to racing outboard boats. On a finishing note, Dave's preparation of the car was meticulous.
Hey Mate, that sounds pretty badass thanks for sharing 👍🏼.
Probably a little before my time that is, i would of been still right into all the magazine reads haha but those et times for what was used is quite stout 💪🏼🏁
Hello 69janks , just a quick personal history , back in 1989 my CLEVELAND was a factory 302 in my Fairmont Ghia XD . I honed the perfect bores put ARP rod bolts , mild hyd cam performer 2V 600 vac STD factory pistons and Isky 115 lbs springs rev limit 6000rpms . The Fairmont ran 14.3 @ 97mph with 3.9 diff gears with a 2500 stall . Anyway I eventually went 351 , I hope you enjoy my story as I enjoyed yours.
Right on PB that is awesome, thanks for sharing……I’ve always said that a spruced-up 302 with some extra revs will get up & go alright👌🏼🏁, mine here was only raced with the 2.75:1 gears unfortunately🤷🏻♂️ & only 5000rpm redline limit……but was good overall & had some great times👍🏼🏁
Hell yeah, that is awesome for your first hot rod!
Thanks vrm👍🏼, 13s-14s power for back then was pretty badass especially for a highschool teenager🤷🏻♂️🏁
@@69JANKS Hell yeah! I didn't get my first hot rod until I was 45! Lol! 13-14 sec was definitely fast for street car back then!
@@vrm86gt haha we all gotta start somewhere or sometime i guess🤷🏻♂️ the 349 is doing well🏁
@@69JANKS yeah, washed the car today to get ready for the track, still having issues with the idle and cold starts but other than that the car seems fine, my wife freaked out when I backed it out of the garage and it clanked into gear with the faceplated tko transmission! She hasn't heard that before and thought something was wrong!
@@vrm86gt 😂😂, that’s cool man👍🏼🏁
Haha!! Watching this brought back memories, you did well with the 2.75’s … at least you had a 351 , my first car was a 302c xc h/top (I still have her and it still has the same spec motor) even modified I couldn’t get into 13’s. I found out later, by running the factory electronic dizzy on a dizzy graph that it would float at 5000. My next car was a 351 that’s when things got serious haha!! Have a good one, cheers mouse
Right on CA good ol times💯, hang onto that coupe👍🏼🏁, later on on my stout 2V combo that was 450hp’ish 12.0s et we still ran my Mallory twin point on that haha🤷🏻♂️🏁
G’day mate, got a question for you … what is the stamping on the square block clevos mean, I always thought that it was in connection to the engine code on the compliance plate. Maybe you could do a video on the meanings of this and the differences between them , cheers mouse
@@ChrisArmstrong-ir3fg hey CA, i wouldn’t have a clue or I’ve most likely forgotten……i did once know abit about all that code stuff etc…. But the RUclips channel “the Clevo King” is good with all that stuff 👍🏼🏁
Hey Janks!
I agree - mid 14s at that weight and with 2.75 gears out back is respectable - aren't a lot cars run that quick at that weight!
I owned the high school lot, only one year though - Chev, Chevelle, close ratio 4spd w/2.2 first gear, 4:10s, locked, ladder bars, 307 & a Q-jet. 1/4 to 3/8s mile circle track cam (still have good low-end) headers & duals.
Heavy car 3660. I had drive the thing from the hit or else it'd just sit there spinning.
Only way I owned the parking lot was that I could drive my a$$ off, kinda P.O.ed the guys with much quicker cars.
I was blessed with lightning quick reflexes (not my words) and practiced the hit and shifting for an hour twice a week.
None of the others did that, and it gave me enough edge to get out on some pretty quick cars - and stay there!
Clevelands and a solid Falcon, Comet or Mustangs being REAL expensive kept me out of my (preffered) Fords for a few years, but I had fun and learned!
Right on MCM you had some cool toys & muscle👌🏼🏁……your not wrong but, running mid-14s with highway gears at 1600kgs & only 2.0-2.2s 60ft it was still moving🤷🏻♂️🏁, had 13s in it for sure with lower rear gear & stickier tires💪🏼🏁
@69JANKS
Oh I agree!!
I'm sure it would have run away from that Chevelle.
I might have stayed with you with the highway gears, but a set of 3:55s and even on street tires you'd have pulled on me.
@@Motor-City-Mike man it was a tire shredder with the 3.5s , 1st was a waste , 2nd could breakout just on acceleration (let alone a rev-dump) & 3rd would power skid also…… it was overkill actually for an engine that topped out at 5k rpm🤷🏻♂️, just had that performance “tow style cam” in it that was torque’y down low…….. probably 3.0s-3.25s would of been awesome for it to be honest……good times MCM 👍🏼🏁
@@69JANKS absolutely!!!
@@Motor-City-Mike also upset i can’t retrieve the footages from the track, did back to back tests on quick normal shifting compared to flat-changes with my Hurst Indy (it was only 1.5 tenths) & missed gear change then corrected was like high 15s et🤦🏻♂️, stick racing is tricky for sure🏁
You've got to start somewhere 👍
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