@@Wypadzkrajudoraju Thanks so much for your feedback 🙏🏼 Have you also checked out my updated 2024 drone rule video? ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
Well done! Very clear and useful video, thank you for all your efforts. I live in Salzburg and considering the buy a drone to capture the beautiful sights around. I might have recognized some of your footage from the surroundings too, like Hallstatt and Burg Werfen(?), amazing views!
Thank you very much for your feedback, I really appreciate it. In Europe there have been some changes in 2024 which are also valid for Austria, so I made a new video which covers all of that. And it's a bit more entertaining at the same time 😉 You can watch it here: ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
For clarification: - You can fly within helipads, as long as you do it outside of their operating hours (most of the hospitals have 24/7, but some don’t). The AustroControls app doesn’t show the operating hours and it’s database isn’t always up to date in regard to operational helipads. Valid information is found in Austrias AIP. - In addition to that, you possibly could get a charged permit from the authority, if you need drone shots for business reasons within Viennas helipad zones. - Your also allowed to fly within the control zone of an airport (but not the inner safety strip). With a sub 250g drone up to 30m without permission. If you want to go higher, or if you have a heavier drone you can get a permission via phone from the respective tower controllers in charge.
Good additional infos, thank you. I have done some commercial work within the inner safety strip of military aerodromes where I had to get a permission of the ministry of defense. But I never had to deal with helipads so far, do you have any experience with that so far? How can I contact you, I have some questions about that
Made it to the end :-) - Excellent video! Excellent locations! I am surprised we didn't bump into each other, since I've been at almost all those locations, too... :-) Looking forward to more stuff of your's! Even the stupid ones! :-)
I have not had the time for private or RUclips projects lately, only commercial ones, so I am not really running around with my drone that much 😉 That might be the reason 😉 But thanks for your kind words, I hope there will be more time in winter 😎
Very well done video. I’m a Part 107 remote pilot and think it would be fun to take the drone while traveling. In total, the requirements on pilots in Europe are less than in the US, but most people here don’t invest the time and money to get the Part 107 license and just fly under the recreation exception, which doesn’t apply to most RUclips or real estate kind of flights. Anyway, well done and thanks for the info, and the bloopers at the end.
Is it hard to get Part 107? I have heard about it but not really looked into it as I have not planned travels to the US in the near future. But I am not sure if it really pays of because you can't fly in national parks and most of the cool spots are in national parks :) Yeah there were so many fails that I just had to make use of them ;)
@@t0mwhazzup For me, the Part 107 took about 3 weeks to do. I took a formal course that was about 15 hours of instruction, plus lots of short tests before a 2 hour FAA exam at a airplane pilot’s school. I’m a lawyer by training so learning about airspace and weather stuff was totally new to me. There are plenty of beautiful places to fly that aren’t in National Parks, you just have to get creative about the landscapes. I’m in the deserts of Arizona and have been finding all kinds of great locations.
So much better than a cat video. LOL. In all seriousness, thank you for this video! It was the first comprehensive explanation of Austria's drone laws that I've found yet! Super helpful.
Hannah, I really appreciate your feedback, thank you! It's hard enough to figure out the laws in your own country, let alone those in a foreign country. Right now I am in England (with my drone) and luckily the laws are very similar, but it took quite some time to figure it out. Again, thanks for your feedback! Even though I am not 100 % happy with it (could be shorter), I am glad that it is of help. Where are you from?
@@t0mwhazzup I'm from the US! I'm just getting into the drone world and am quickly realizing how true that is! Drone laws are pretty convoluted and very diverse depending on where you are. That's awesome that you're in England. I hope you get some sick footage! I hope to do the same while I'm in Austria next week! The most important thing is getting content out there, even if it's not 100% to your liking. Ten almost perfect videos are better than only one perfect one. Plus, the creator is always more critical of their product than the consumer, so don't be hard on yourself ;)
@@hannahtiman1032 Thanks for your kind words, I really appreciate them! Where in Austria are you going to be? England was great, I think I got some good drone footage 🙂 And I almost lost my drone several times... I have definitely some stories to tell 😉
Thanks for clarifying. There is a misunderstanding floating on forums that , you need license worth 330 euros per year to take pictures using toy drones (less than 250 gm, eg dji mini). And also you cannot flyore than 30 mtrs high.
No, absolutely not true. Not anymore at least. I know that the license was way more expensive a few more years ago. 120 m is the max altitude as prescribed in the EASA regulation - Austria applies that regulation more or less as it is. Hope that helps :)
DJI Mini are not toy drones. Actual toys never have 14+ or 16+ markings and have CE marking for toys. Toys have their own rules and had those 30 m even when all other drones were banned.
@@captainfilmmaking That is true, that's why I'll always keep my Mini 3 Pro in addition to bigger drones. But this regulation has been in force only since Aug 2022 (so one month after I published this video). In Vienna it's still almost nowhere possible since there are so many hospital helipads that operate 24/7.
IMPORTANT INFORMATION --- The mentioned apps unfortunately seem to not be available in many countries outside of Austria. Less convenient, but you can use the web-based versions of those maps here: ÖAMTC Drohnen-Info map: www.oeamtc.at/drohnen-karte/map Austro Control Dronespace map: map.dronespace.at --- Clarification: minimum age 16 refers to acting as drone pilot. For registration you need to be at least 18 years old.
Hey Tom, very nice video! Could you please clarify a bit a part with liability insurance (as I don't know German, yet it's the most tricky one for me). Thanks in advance!
Sorry for my late answer. What exactly do you want to know? You need to be covered for damage you might cause with your drone, in the European Union with at least 750000 SDR.
We live near a beautiful but bird protected area, also have a nice little town with a castle nearby, but there is a 2,5km circle around restriction around the whole town do to the helipad of the hospital 😂 The registration info is funny when You say it arrives within a few minutes. In my home country I did submit my registration 4 days ago electronically and it is still not here LOL.
Yeah it's the same with helipads and aerodromes in Austria 😅 The registration process might be different in each country or maybe I just got lucky that it was so quick 😬
Hi! Nice video! What about this? "A permit from Austro Control is required to fly a drone for commercial purposes. A permit from Austro Control is required to take photos or record video with your drone regardless of operating mass and even if the photos/footage are for private use" Maybe only for commercial purpose...but not super clear since it says "private use" :) /Daniel
Rules are more or less the same, and you need a spotter who keeps an eye on the drone while you have your goggles on. I have a more recent videos with 2024 European rules (which do also apply to Austria), you might want to watch it: ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
Wow, you deserve way more attention! Very informative and nice video, but I wanted to ask you about fpv drones. If I build a drone myself, than how can I register it for astro control?
That's very kind of you, thank you! Happy if it helps. You do not need to register your drone. You just have to register yourself as drone operator to get an operator ID as long as your drone is lighter than 250 g and the top speed is lower than 19 m/s (= 68 km/h or 42 mph). I guess your FPV will be faster, so you have to complete online training and pass the exam. For that, check the chapter at 2:24 . When it comes to flight rules, for self-built drones, below 250 g and 19 m/s, you can fly in open category A1, otherwise you have to fly in category open A3. Check this table: www.dronespace.at/jart/prj3/dronespace/images/img-db/1639413467797.jpg Hope that helps! If you have any further questions, please let me know. Cheers!
Hi Tom, 👍I am living in a beautiful country Austria like you. I finally got a new mini 3pro and quite excited about it. As a newbie I have lots of questions but your video has done a great job of easing out the fear of drone laws and flight rules. Thanks for sharing your video. I just have a question and hope you could tell me if I need to take the part 107 certificate/license? becuase I might be posting my soon to be videos on socila media/youtube. What is your recommendation? thanks alot in advance.
Hi! No, you don't need part 107. That's only relevant for flights in the US. In Austria, there is no such things - all the requirements are discussed in my video :) Hope that helps!
Hi Tom 🙌🏼 thank you for the perfect video!! I found everything I needed. But I just have one question. I have a dji mini 3 pro. Is it possible to film a city or monument from a distance only with registration? (such as Hallstatt in your video) Or do I have to have a permit for that? thank you very much and have a nice day ✨
Hi Karin! Thanks for your nice feedback! Regarding Hallstatt, last time I checked you were generally allowed to fly there, but as you always have to consider privacy as well, I wouldn't fly directly through town, but rather fly along the outlines (shoreline etc.), which makes more sense image-wise anyways. In general, you always have to check separately before a flight whether you are allowed to fly there (there are apps and websites of each national aviation authority, in this case Austro Control with its DroneSpace map. I have another, more recent video with the new rules that apply from Jan 1st 2024, it is for whole Europe and has all the new rules. It's shorter and more entertaining, too 😉 You can look here: ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
Thanks for your great video! I bought a Dji Mini2 (less than 250 gm). May I ask that do I need license worth 330 euros per year to take pics&videos in Austria?
Happy that it helps. Your feedback is very much appreciated. You do not need this licence. I have not been flying drones back then, but I think that this media licence was the case a few years ago in Austria, and that remainders of this information still linger around on the internet. But that's not valid any more! Hope that helps!
Thanks for the super clear info. Can you clear up a point about photos/videos for personal use please? The drone-laws website implies you need permit from Austrocontrol to take photos, is this the case as I cannot find anything about it on their website. I plan to bring my mini2 to Kitbuhel next month from the UK.
Hi Gary, thank you very much for your feedback! Happy if it helps. According to my information, you don't need any permit to take photos or videos, you just have to register your drone. Of course, you have to adhere to privacy laws, but that has nothing to do with Austro Control (they are only responsible for airspace use/laws). I don't know privacy laws inside out - I'd just use common sense. I don't take photos or videos with people in it where you can clearly recognize them or make videos in detail of someone's garden/appartement/private space etc. Sorry that I cannot give you any more details on this aspect, but as long as you respect other people's privacy, you're good to go. And if you use it only for personal use and don't upload/publish your media, I wouldn't worry too much anyways :) I hope you're going to have a good time in Austria! If I can help with anything else, just let me know. Tom
@@garyhill9723 You're very welcome! And most of the time, people are positively curious and some even like to be filmed if you offer to send them the footage. Who doesn't want to be featured in some stunning drone shots? 🙂 I've been to Cornwall last month and there I happened to capture two women swimming and dancing on the beach and later talked to them and offered them to send them the footage. They also agreed to be featured in my short travel film about Cornwall which I'll be uploading within the next few weeks. You cannot recognize them identitywise, though. I am a believer in talking to people and treating everyone as I'd like to be treated and I usually get along very well. If people are around, I ask them if it's okay for them if I fly and I have yet to get a negative response. Hopefully it stays like that. Have a good time and if you ever choose to upload your drone videos, let me know! All the best!
Depends on what's in the footage/photos you have taken. You have to take care of people's privacy. But that's a different issue which is not really related to drones per se and therefore I didn't cover it. If you don't upload videos of people or in any other way not publicly accessible places/things, I would not worry too much. But of course that might be different from country to country, and I am by no means an expert in that area. Hope that helps 🙂
@@t0mwhazzupIn Sweden we have to get all Photos reviewed by ”government” unless they are excused. The special occasions that DO NOT require approval are “if it does not contain the horizon” and some other special conditions. So e.g. if it is taking pictures of a ski slope with lifts and you see the sky, it must be sent for approval. Seems like it is easier in Austria based on your comment.
@senilssonpn Where do you get that from? Tbh, I have no idea about the laws in Sweden, but I wonder how accurately they're executed.. I mean, there's lots of Swedish RUclipsrs as well and I strongly doubt that the government reviews their videos beforehand 😉
Hi Tom. Thanks for the information. Do you have any Tipps about seeling drone shot footage via shutterstock for instance? What is allowed, what is not?
Hi Tom, many thanks for your video I have got all the information that I need them. I have only question: I have drone less than 250 Gram with camera. How can I get liability insurance? Is there specific websites that I can register for that? Please supply
I'd say the easiest way would be to get one in your home country. Usually drone liability insurance is worldwide coverage. Just google it for your home country. My insurance policies are from www.airandmore.at but I don't know if they take clients from outside Austria. But as I said, usually you take on an insurance in your home country, just check that coverage is worldwide. Hope that helps.
Hi! Can i use a racing fpv quadcopter? In the fields, for example, without insurance, documents, without anything to just go launch the drone and fly. Without licenses and the second. I am not from Austria, but I am interested in this.
Hi, unfortunately it's not legal. The same rules and requirements apply to FPV drones, and most probably (but not sure) you'd rather have to stick to open category A3 (far from people) independent of the quad's weight (because the higher speed has greater impact). But that's just speculation on my part. When you're from within the European Union and are registered in your home country, registration is also valid in Austria, and if you have insurance it might also cover flying in Austria. If not, registration is around EUR 32,- for 3 years and insurance you can get for around EUR 40-60,- per year. And when flying with goggles, you'd require another person to act as spotter. Hope that helps!
Hello Tom, thank you for those informations, great video! I want to fly DJI FPV Avata drone in Austria (it has 410 grams), and I have done all the things, except for insurance. Now I am searching for one, but in my country - I am from Czech Republic - are not that many companies that do the insurance. Another thing which is an issue is the price for the insurance here - coverage of 750.000 SDR for EU costs 350€ per year here, and coverage worldwide except US & Canada costs 400€ per year. When I saw those prices, I was just shocked. So i am wondering, if companies like Airandmore do insurance even for people that are not from Austria. Thank you a lot for help in advance 🙂
I have three drones insured at Air and More. You can ask them about CZ, usually they respond very fast. Avata is below 450 g, so you might get their insurance for mini drones, which is a bit cheaper 🙂 If you get the insurance there, you could mention me as referral (there is a form field for that). Not sure if that gives me any advantage but it couldn't hurt either 😬
@@999Lynx Oh no. Very sorry to hear that. I had the same problem when I tried to get an insurance in Germany (40 Euros per year for up to 3 drones - WAY cheaper than in Austria). But they accept only German residents. I really hope you find another solution for you that is not as expensive as the known ones.
Hey, thanks for the nice video. Im planning to film some offpiste skiing in the Tyrol. I guess its still recreation area, even offpiste, so I will be safer with 249gr drone, as air2s is more 500gr. Also, the drohne-info app is not available for me in google store/apple (Im in UK, not sure why they do that) Is there any website to check for nature restriction areas in Tyrol?
Hi Edgar! Thanks for your feedback. Regarding your question - I have received quite a few comments that say that these apps are not available in other countries. Which is a pity. You could try an VPN, maybe that helps! Otherwise I would simply download the app as soon as you're in Austria. I am not aware of a web version of the Drohnen-Info map that includes nature restrictions... but if nothing else works, let me know where you want to fly and I'll look it up for you. And if it's very windy and there are no people around, I'd probably go with the Air 2S as it is more stable in the wind. Hope that helps! Tom
@@t0mwhazzup Thanks Tom, Ive tried with VPN without the luck, it looks like something to do with the region of the play store when you initialise your phone etc. I will check with tourist info when I get into Austria/ Cheers, safe flying :)
Yeah, that might be the case. But it's stupid 🤷🏻♂️ I hope they can help but don't set your hopes too high. People don't know much about drones and would rather say don't fly when in doubt. Anyways good luck and if you need any information, let me know! Merry Christmas!
Hello Tom, my name is José Luis and I live in San Antonio Texas, on September 20 I will be traveling on vacation to Europe specifically in Austria, the Czech Republic and Germany, I just bought a drone (DJI Mavic Air 2s) and I am thinking of taking it with my registration in Dronespace can I use my drone in the 3 countries or do I have to register it in 3 different sites?
Hola José Luis, sorry for my delayed response. I hope you arrived well. To your question, you just need to register in the first EU country you fly in. Registration is valid for all the other countries of the EU as well. Have a great trip and beautiful flights :)
I carried my Mini 3 Pro all the way to Hallstatt. When I arrived at the spot shown in your video, there was a sign that Hallstatt is a UNESCO site and that everyone is asked to NOT fly drones in Hallstatt... Since I did not know if it was a legal requirement or just a wish that can be broken without any consequences, I kept my drone in the bag. It was a big disappointment for me.
@@kotolows I think that just putting up a sign doesn't make it a legal requirement. Not sure though. But you would, in most scenarios, not be allowed to fly there anyways because it might impede privacy of people, and at least during daytime you would not be able to avoid overflying assemblies of people because it's so busy there. You can still get great views with your drone if you film from the water like I did, or from outside Hallstatt. The view on Hallstatt is more impressive than the view from within 🙂 I have a new video on the updated drone laws from 2024 (for all Europe because it's now mostly harmonized) as well: ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
@@t0mwhazzup I did plan to fly and record the town from the water area and not inside the town. The obvious starting point is still on the ground exactly where the sign with rules/requests was put up. I considered 2 alternatives: 1. rent a small boat and start and land on it, 2. start from way above the town behind the triangle view point. It is not clear what is the border of the no-fly zone, if there is indeed one. I haven't observed anyone flying. I think that place requires special attention/clarification for the drone enthusiasts, so if you are able, please make a video that explains the rules in details.
@@kotolows Sorry, unfortunately I don't have time for that recently. I also got creative and took off from the other side of the lake. Which puts the drone out of line of sight (too far). So whatever you decide for, it might not be 100% legal 😉
1. Unfortunately, the Drone Space app is not available for me, probably not to anyone whose phone has a no.-Austrian Google account. It simply is not available in the Play Store. 2. The Drohnen Info app does not work on my phone. Isn't there some web-based map? It would have benn so much more convenient. The rules as I quickly skiooed through them actually talk about a ban in Naturschutzgebiete in general. Are you sure just excluding national parks and bird areas is sufficient? I am mostly concerned about Dachsteingebirge for cave exploration and was very surprised by your videos of Hallstatt.
The views of Hallstatt were really nice! We normally just quickly go through that crowded town when going to or from the Wiesberghaus. But I always enjoy the ferry from/to the train station.
Unfortunately, at the time of producing this video, I was not aware of the fact that the apps mentioned are not available in many countries outside of Austria (which is very stupid in my opinion). There seems to be a web-based version of Drohnen-Info here: www.oeamtc.at/drohnen-karte/map It is really complicated with Naturschutzgebiete. Each county (we have 9 in Austria) is responsible for those laws and there might be differences - I have not found a definitive conclusion on this. You are allowed to fly in and around Hallstatt even though there might be some signs that say "No drone zone". They put those signs up just to prevent too many tourists to fly but there is no legislation to my knowledge that prevents you from flying there. BUT you are, depending on your drone classification, not allowed to fly over people or assemblies of people AND you have to respect the privacy, so be very considerate. I have only operated my drone along the shoreline of Hallstatt and above the church area when there were not many people around, so that should be fine. But be always prepared that somebody walks up to you, people are very sensitive there and even though there might be no legal basis for the "No drone zone" signs, I would still see it as a plea from the people of Hallstatt to respect that at least in a way to not obviously disturb the people there or intrude in their privacy.
If I already have A1, A3 and A2 drone operator certificates from Denmark, and I want to fly my DJI Mini 3 Pro and record video with it, does it mean that I do NOT need to obtain any additional "papers" or permissions or perform any payments or registrations, and I can simply fly the drone in the allowed areas, up to 120m?
Exactly. Just be registered as drone operator in an European country and hold the required licences (from a European country) for your drone type and you're good to go. I have a more updated video on European drone rules for 2024 (which also applies to Austria), you might want to watch it: ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
Austro Control app doesn’t appear to be available for US users. The austro control website isn’t comprehensive on what space is allowed and I wish this video went more into using the site.
Sorry I missed your comment. Maybe I can help, what exactly needs further explanation? If you go to map.dronespace.at make sure you select "en(glish)" in the upper right corner. And on the map itself, each colored area is an area in which you are not allowed to fly. In order to get more details, set a pin where you want to fly, and if there's an area restricting drone use, you get information on the left side. If there's more than one area at the site you put the pin on, you'll get a list of areas and you can click each to get further information. In general, wherever there is a colored area, you are not allowed to fly, BUT (opposing to the app) in the browser based map there are also areas that do not start from ground (e.g. the big yellow area northwest of Vienna starts at 2500 ft above ground). I don't know why they include such areas in the map as they are not relevant to drone pilots in the open category (up to 120 m / 400 ft above ground). So that makes it a little more confusing than the app. Did you look for the other app, Drohnen-Info? Is it available in the US? It might look a little bit more confusing but once you figure it out (check the video for that) it has complete information to offer (compared to Austrocontrol sources) as it also includes areas that restricted drone use not related to airspace structure (like national parks etc.). I hope I could clear things up. If not, let me know and I'll try to help. Cheers!
Hello Tom, great video! Im planning a holiday and read some things about drone flying in Austria that where not mentioned in the video. I have read that you need to get a permit from Austro control when your drone Weight is above 250 gram (.55lbs) or if the drone is flown above 30 meters (89 feet). And you always need a permit, regardless of whether the videos/photos are for private or commercial use. If you dont have a permit you could get a fine of 22000 euro's. I dont know if this is still relevant (i assume it is), but maybe you can explain this. Greetings
Hi Marco, thank you! Happy to hear if it is of any help to you. Most probably you've read some old information. Generally in Europe, there have been some major changes since before 2021, where EASA guidelines came into force in Europe. I didn't mention all this in detail because I didn't want to make the video longer than necessary. The individual states can deviate from those EASA rules in certain points (which could make it potentially more complicated), but Austria applies the EASA rules mostly as they are (except from additions regarding national flight restriction zones etc.). The height limit is generally 120 m. There might be some restricted airspace that starts at an altitude below 120 m, which would mean that you would be allowed to fly only up to the altitude at where the restricted airspace starts. But I am not aware of any airspace like that. Always check the apps individually for the location you want to fly in. I prefer the Drohnen-Info app as it includes all possible restrictions (like national parks etc) while the Dronespace app considers restrictions of the airspace itself only. The Drohnen-Info app might be more confusing to people that don't speak German, but as I explained in the video, as long there are only two points mentioned in the selected location (one being the allowed flight altitude, the other one being whether you are allowed to fly over people or not - depending on the drone category you selected), you are allowed to fly. Additional points impose restrictions. You can send me the link where you've read about the 30 m altitude restriction and that you need a permit above 250 grams and I can check it for you if it has any validity. Of course, I cannot take liability to give you 100 % valid information, but I'd say I am quite up to date when it comes to the flight rules here and try to provide the best information I can. When it comes to commercial flying, I am not aware that there are any additional requirements like permits, at least not by the state of Austria. With private property, I'd assume you might have to check of course with the property owner if commercial filming is allowed. As I am a hobby flyer only, I cannot give you accurate information about that. What are you planning and what drone do you use? Greetings, Tom
@@t0mwhazzup Tom, you did a great job, really ! I have Mavic Air 2, I have passed an exam for A2 category, have a certificate but till today I didn't know whether I can fly in Austria or not without special permission from Austro Control. Tell me one thing - is there an obligation to register a flight in some apk on smartphone or just see if I can fly in specific place ond obey the rules ? In Poland for example I have too register additionally a flight in our application on a smartphone.
@@waldemarnowak4001 Hi Waldemar, thank you very much for your feedback! You do not need to register your drone or a flight in the open category. Just an operator ID and if flying a drone heavier than 250 g you need to pass the online exam OR do the A2 exam (which is even better). You're good to go!
Hello Tom, thanks for this video. I am from the UK and currently visiting Austria with my DJI mini 2 drone. I am confused on how to take the insurance? Can you please recommend how I can take a insurance for a month?
Hi Rahul, honestly I don't know if there is insurance for one month only. Do you have insurance back in the UK? If so, check if it covers Austria as well. My insurance covers worldwide (except for USA), maybe yours too? My insurance is airandmore.at but I think they do only one year minimum policies, it's around 50 Euros for sub 250g drones. I hope that helps and I hope that you enjoy your stay here in Austria ☺️ If I can help with anything else, please let me know.
Hello, I am from Malaysia. Regarding the "dronespace website".... i can't register for the austrian language. Is this website provide english version ? or any others solution?
Hi, unfortunately it's only in German language. That's why I guide you through the registration process in this video. Just follow along from 1:18 onwards! I hope that helps!
Hi Tom! I am planning to go to Austria soon for mountain biking! I was wondering if you know if it’s possible to fly (in summer time) on the ski slopes. Since they’re used for mtbikers during summer. I tried to download the app but it’s not working in my country (NL). Great video tho thanks for that!
In general, you can fly above ski slopes as long as you comply to the rules & regulation (distance to people) according to your drone classification. But specifically you have to check the apps or maps whether there is an area that restricts drone use. Please check the links in the video description. The maps are also available in a browser-based version, so you don't need the app 🙂
Hello Tom, thanks for the video very helpful! I have dji mini 3 pro and planning a trip to Salzburg and Hallstatt. Are we allowed to fly drone over there considering i have registered and have insurance as well. I cannot download the mentioned apps. Thank you in advanced!
In Salzburg city you cannot fly, it is within the security zone of Salzburg airport and strictly forbidden. Hallstatt itself is a no drone zone, there are signs there. The residents don't want you to fly there because there are so many tourists and drone pilots so that can be pretty annoying for them, I imagine. As long as you don't conflict with privacy laws, you can fly there legally, but I'd advise you to do it in a way that does not annoy anyone. I have flewn over the lake to get a good shoreline view of Hallstatt, but not really over Hallstatt itself. Yes, the apps are unfortunately not available in foreign app stores, but I have put a link in the description to the browser based map tools where you can check your locations. Hope that helps ☺️
@Tom Whazzup Thank you for the quick response! I generally fly in the morning to avoid disturbing others, and ya, I won't be flying over Hallstatt just over the lake from some secluded place.
Can you please make a new video for 2024 becuase its much different and I don't understand anything, I tried everything and watched everything so please make a new video.
I did an updated video for 2024 half a year ago. It's about European drone rules, but it's more or less harmonized now, so the video is also valid for Austria. The video is on my channel or just follow this link: ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
hii I did registered as a operator. how to add Assets in operator account section. Can you clarify this point. another thing I got registration number in mailbox, so this is my operator ID ?
Hi, is it an obligation to register a flight somewhere? Or just check if I can fly (no restrictions) in applications you have mentioned in the video, obey the rules and that's it ?
Hi Tom, Thanks for your video, its help me a lot. One question, on the drohnen map, under the info about maximum flight altitude I get something like „Maximum kinetic energy” byt without any numer or nothing, and what its mean for me and my flight? Thanks
I am very sorry Robert, I missed your answer. 700 grams can definitely only be operated in cat A3, so at least 150 m away from residential, industrial etc areas and no uninvolved people near the area. I am not sure about a limit of kinetic energy in A3. I don't think there is one, but be sure to check EASA website for that. I hope that helps!
Awesome, thanks! Seems like neither app is downloadable on Android though. Says it's not available on my device (Samsung Galaxy S21) - I'm guessing country restriction or something.
Hello Tom, I have a question? i did register my drone here in the Netherlands by the RDW, there i got a special number which I attached to my DJI Mini 2. So now i just need a liability insurance that is valid in Austria and then i am good to go, or do i still miss something? plus i will stick to the general rules. i am not really interested flying over urban areas. I like to use it during my hikes into the mountains to capture myself. So the 330 euros for filming myself isn't an issue anymore? another question, for the insurance i just tried it by air and more, but they only accept Austrian postcode, do you think i can use the adress of a guesthouse legally were i stay?
If the special number from the RDW is your Operator ID, you should be good to go. In general, Op IDs from a country within the European Union are valid in all EU countries :) There is no information about a filming fee on the Austro Control website anymore and I was in contact with them and they did not mention a word about that - this seems to be old information on drone laws website. Unfortunately they can't keep up to date with all country laws. Regarding air and more, I'd suggest you contact them yourself. I'd suppose that like with every insurance you need to give your real resident address. If they really don't accept customers from outside Austria, which I don't believe, I'd try to get a drone insurance in the Netherlands. Usually they are valid worldwide (like air and more, except US and Canada). Hope that helps! Let me know if you need any further help.
@@t0mwhazzup hey Tom that was a fast reply, thanks for your help mate, are you yourself from Austria or Germany, cause I heard you speaking German in de video? Yes indeed I got my personal registration ID in the Netherlands, so now just the insurance, great! Would really love to capture those beautiful views in the beautiful Alps in Austria 🏔️👍😀
You can fly over Hallstatt when you don't impair peoples privacy and when you don't fly over assemblies of people - which is almost impossible most of the time with all the masses of tourists strolling around there. But filming Hallstatt from the water is easy - no overflying of people there 😉
What happen in airport security if we didnt register our drone or as operator? Because im only have 1 day at Austria and not intend to fly in Austria due to lack of time, but the only problem is my arrival is to Vienna airport. I afraid the authority will seized my drone and fine me. Can please help me on this issue. Tq Tom🙏🏻
Hey Brado, that should not be an issue at all. If possible, put the drone in your checked luggage. Batteries in fireproof battery bag in hand luggage. If you're only travelling with hand luggage, it should not be an issue either. Drones are not forbidden to carry with you. Just store the batteries responsibly in a fireproof bad and you'll be good. Safe travels!
Hey Tom, great video! Have a question regarding the insurance. Is there an option to get insurance just for some short time? I'm planning on visiting Austria in 2 weeks just for a week or so. If yes, do you know where I can get it? I have my insurance but only for my country. Thanks a lot for the helpful video!
I don't know specifically about it. You could ask at airandnmore.at if the could individually offer something like that. If not, I would simply ask at your drone insurance company if they could offer a short term insursance for Austria. Thanks for your feedback 🙂
Hi Tom thanks for the information i have a mini 3 which i wish to bring on holiday with me in Vienna which places do you recommend that i can fly which are not crowded (not Christmas markets of course) but central so i can film some of your beautiful sights, I am registered in Malta which is part of the EU and also have Insurance.
Hi Andy! Are you only going to stay in Vienna? Unfortunately, in Vienna it's not permitted to fly any kind of drone without special permissions (which are only granted in rare cases that serve public interest, so there's basically no chance). Sorry to bring the bad news to you 😕
@@andybg1972 Sorry, I have just received new information. Since August, you are technically allowed to fly below 30 m altitude in Vienna with drones lighter than 250 g. BUT you are still not allowed to fly within a radius of 2,5 km from hospitals with heliports. Therefore, it is still not possible in most of Vienna, but at least some spots in the suburbs are possible to be flown above. The apps I mentioned in this video have the update already. All other rules (like not flying above crowds) are also still applicable.
Well, I use the insurance by Air and More (www.airandmore.at), it's an Austrian one but luckily I have not had any insurance claims, so I cannot really say whether it is good or not. But I have had a few questions that they always responded to very quickly and they were very helpful (in German, though). They have worldwide coverage except for US and Canada. Generally, I would check online in your own country and try to find recommendations on Google. Hope that helps!
@@getdownmikelove Generally I think I'd prefer to have insurance from a company that speaks my language. But if you happen to go with Air and More and need any language assistance, let me know.
Laut Drohnen Info App befindet sich dort ein Heliport, also im Umkreis von 2,5 km davon ist es während der Betriebszeiten verboten. Die genauen Ausmaße siehst du in der Drohnen-Info Map.
@@rembi4400 Laut AIP Austria ist der Heliport Bad Kleinkirchheim von 1. Dezember bis 1. Mai geschlossen. Etwas östlich davon ist noch das Helipad Patergassen. Dort sind keine Öffnungszeiten verlautbart, aber hier ist die Telefonnummer, falls du nachfragen möchtest: +43 1 71199-1510 Und hier hast du alle Heliports in Österreich laut AIP: eaip.austrocontrol.at/lo/220128/PART_3/AD_3/LO_AD_3_en.pdf
European Union Aviation Safety Agency I will write in German :). Ich habe mich dort registriert. In Polen muss man kurze Prüfung ablegen um beispielweise mi DJI mini 2 zu fliegen.
@@rembi4400 Generell ist es in Österreich so, dass du mit einer Drohne mit Kamera als Drohnenbetreiber registriert sein musst in einem EU Land (also wenn du in Polen registriert bist als Drohnenbetreiber, reicht das). Die Easa Registrierung kenne ich nicht. Wenn deine Drohne über 250 g hat, musst du auch noch den online proficiency Test machen. Wenn du nur die Mini 2 hast, ist das aber nicht nötig 🙂
Nice video - very useful - Thanks 👋
@@Wypadzkrajudoraju Thanks so much for your feedback 🙏🏼 Have you also checked out my updated 2024 drone rule video?
ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
Well done! Very clear and useful video, thank you for all your efforts. I live in Salzburg and considering the buy a drone to capture the beautiful sights around. I might have recognized some of your footage from the surroundings too, like Hallstatt and Burg Werfen(?), amazing views!
Thank you very much for your kind words 🤗 Happy if my video helped!
Precise and useful summary, thank you.
Thank you very much for your feedback :) Appreciated!
Very good video! All information I wanted to fly safely in Austria! Top man!
Thanks! Glad to be of help!
Thank you for your effort - very informative and useful!
Thank you very much for your feedback, I really appreciate it. In Europe there have been some changes in 2024 which are also valid for Austria, so I made a new video which covers all of that. And it's a bit more entertaining at the same time 😉
You can watch it here:
ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
For clarification:
- You can fly within helipads, as long as you do it outside of their operating hours (most of the hospitals have 24/7, but some don’t). The AustroControls app doesn’t show the operating hours and it’s database isn’t always up to date in regard to operational helipads. Valid information is found in Austrias AIP.
- In addition to that, you possibly could get a charged permit from the authority, if you need drone shots for business reasons within Viennas helipad zones.
- Your also allowed to fly within the control zone of an airport (but not the inner safety strip). With a sub 250g drone up to 30m without permission. If you want to go higher, or if you have a heavier drone you can get a permission via phone from the respective tower controllers in charge.
Good additional infos, thank you. I have done some commercial work within the inner safety strip of military aerodromes where I had to get a permission of the ministry of defense. But I never had to deal with helipads so far, do you have any experience with that so far? How can I contact you, I have some questions about that
Made it to the end :-) - Excellent video! Excellent locations! I am surprised we didn't bump into each other, since I've been at almost all those locations, too... :-) Looking forward to more stuff of your's! Even the stupid ones! :-)
I have not had the time for private or RUclips projects lately, only commercial ones, so I am not really running around with my drone that much 😉 That might be the reason 😉 But thanks for your kind words, I hope there will be more time in winter 😎
Thanks, all information in this video
You are very welcome, thank you for your comment :)
Very well done video. I’m a Part 107 remote pilot and think it would be fun to take the drone while traveling. In total, the requirements on pilots in Europe are less than in the US, but most people here don’t invest the time and money to get the Part 107 license and just fly under the recreation exception, which doesn’t apply to most RUclips or real estate kind of flights. Anyway, well done and thanks for the info, and the bloopers at the end.
Is it hard to get Part 107? I have heard about it but not really looked into it as I have not planned travels to the US in the near future. But I am not sure if it really pays of because you can't fly in national parks and most of the cool spots are in national parks :) Yeah there were so many fails that I just had to make use of them ;)
@@t0mwhazzup For me, the Part 107 took about 3 weeks to do. I took a formal course that was about 15 hours of instruction, plus lots of short tests before a 2 hour FAA exam at a airplane pilot’s school. I’m a lawyer by training so learning about airspace and weather stuff was totally new to me. There are plenty of beautiful places to fly that aren’t in National Parks, you just have to get creative about the landscapes. I’m in the deserts of Arizona and have been finding all kinds of great locations.
So much better than a cat video. LOL. In all seriousness, thank you for this video! It was the first comprehensive explanation of Austria's drone laws that I've found yet! Super helpful.
Hannah, I really appreciate your feedback, thank you! It's hard enough to figure out the laws in your own country, let alone those in a foreign country. Right now I am in England (with my drone) and luckily the laws are very similar, but it took quite some time to figure it out. Again, thanks for your feedback! Even though I am not 100 % happy with it (could be shorter), I am glad that it is of help. Where are you from?
@@t0mwhazzup I'm from the US! I'm just getting into the drone world and am quickly realizing how true that is! Drone laws are pretty convoluted and very diverse depending on where you are. That's awesome that you're in England. I hope you get some sick footage! I hope to do the same while I'm in Austria next week!
The most important thing is getting content out there, even if it's not 100% to your liking. Ten almost perfect videos are better than only one perfect one. Plus, the creator is always more critical of their product than the consumer, so don't be hard on yourself ;)
@@hannahtiman1032 Thanks for your kind words, I really appreciate them! Where in Austria are you going to be?
England was great, I think I got some good drone footage 🙂 And I almost lost my drone several times... I have definitely some stories to tell 😉
Hey! Sorry for my late reply! I’ll be in Vienna, Salzburg and a small town about 2 hrs away from Salzburg ;)
What part are you from?
@@hannahtiman1032 Vienna. What small town is it? Maybe I know it 😉
Thanks for clarifying. There is a misunderstanding floating on forums that , you need license worth 330 euros per year to take pictures using toy drones (less than 250 gm, eg dji mini). And also you cannot flyore than 30 mtrs high.
No, absolutely not true. Not anymore at least. I know that the license was way more expensive a few more years ago. 120 m is the max altitude as prescribed in the EASA regulation - Austria applies that regulation more or less as it is.
Hope that helps :)
DJI Mini are not toy drones. Actual toys never have 14+ or 16+ markings and have CE marking for toys. Toys have their own rules and had those 30 m even when all other drones were banned.
@@t0mwhazzupIn certain areas (like LOR15 etc.) you can fly up to 30m with a drone
@@captainfilmmaking That is true, that's why I'll always keep my Mini 3 Pro in addition to bigger drones. But this regulation has been in force only since Aug 2022 (so one month after I published this video). In Vienna it's still almost nowhere possible since there are so many hospital helipads that operate 24/7.
Thank you this is very usefull and informative video!
Very welcome! Happy if it helps 🙂
I realy want to choot some videos in Austria and this video was realy helpful ,thanks alot
Happy to hear that it was helpful 😊 Thank you for the feedback!
IMPORTANT INFORMATION
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The mentioned apps unfortunately seem to not be available in many countries outside of Austria.
Less convenient, but you can use the web-based versions of those maps here:
ÖAMTC Drohnen-Info map: www.oeamtc.at/drohnen-karte/map
Austro Control Dronespace map: map.dronespace.at
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Clarification: minimum age 16 refers to acting as drone pilot. For registration you need to be at least 18 years old.
Thx for the information!
You're welcome 👍🏼
Thanks for this!
You are very welcome ☺️
Hey Tom, very nice video! Could you please clarify a bit a part with liability insurance (as I don't know German, yet it's the most tricky one for me). Thanks in advance!
Sorry for my late answer. What exactly do you want to know? You need to be covered for damage you might cause with your drone, in the European Union with at least 750000 SDR.
@@t0mwhazzup no worries, already got it 😊
We live near a beautiful but bird protected area, also have a nice little town with a castle nearby, but there is a 2,5km circle around restriction around the whole town do to the helipad of the hospital 😂 The registration info is funny when You say it arrives within a few minutes. In my home country I did submit my registration 4 days ago electronically and it is still not here LOL.
Yeah it's the same with helipads and aerodromes in Austria 😅
The registration process might be different in each country or maybe I just got lucky that it was so quick 😬
@@t0mwhazzup my significant other is Austrian so I know how much quicker things work here :)
Hi! Nice video! What about this?
"A permit from Austro Control is required to fly a drone for commercial purposes. A permit from Austro Control is required to take photos or record video with your drone regardless of operating mass and even if the photos/footage are for private use"
Maybe only for commercial purpose...but not super clear since it says "private use" :)
/Daniel
Where do you have this info from?
@@t0mwhazzup It says in google when i google "drone with camera austria"
Hi, thank you so much for video🎉 Can disclose more about FPV drones ? It rules are the same ?
Rules are more or less the same, and you need a spotter who keeps an eye on the drone while you have your goggles on.
I have a more recent videos with 2024 European rules (which do also apply to Austria), you might want to watch it: ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
Wow, you deserve way more attention! Very informative and nice video, but I wanted to ask you about fpv drones. If I build a drone myself, than how can I register it for astro control?
That's very kind of you, thank you! Happy if it helps.
You do not need to register your drone. You just have to register yourself as drone operator to get an operator ID as long as your drone is lighter than 250 g and the top speed is lower than 19 m/s (= 68 km/h or 42 mph). I guess your FPV will be faster, so you have to complete online training and pass the exam. For that, check the chapter at 2:24 .
When it comes to flight rules, for self-built drones, below 250 g and 19 m/s, you can fly in open category A1, otherwise you have to fly in category open A3. Check this table: www.dronespace.at/jart/prj3/dronespace/images/img-db/1639413467797.jpg
Hope that helps! If you have any further questions, please let me know.
Cheers!
@@t0mwhazzup Vielen Dank for all of that information. That is so kind of you, really appreciate your effort!
@@onegraund8949 You're very welcome! :)
Hi Tom, 👍I am living in a beautiful country Austria like you. I finally got a new mini 3pro and quite excited about it. As a newbie I have lots of questions but your video has done a great job of easing out the fear of drone laws and flight rules. Thanks for sharing your video. I just have a question and hope you could tell me if I need to take the part 107 certificate/license? becuase I might be posting my soon to be videos on socila media/youtube. What is your recommendation? thanks alot in advance.
Hi! No, you don't need part 107. That's only relevant for flights in the US. In Austria, there is no such things - all the requirements are discussed in my video :) Hope that helps!
Hi Tom 🙌🏼 thank you for the perfect video!! I found everything I needed. But I just have one question. I have a dji mini 3 pro. Is it possible to film a city or monument from a distance only with registration? (such as Hallstatt in your video) Or do I have to have a permit for that? thank you very much and have a nice day ✨
Hi Karin! Thanks for your nice feedback! Regarding Hallstatt, last time I checked you were generally allowed to fly there, but as you always have to consider privacy as well, I wouldn't fly directly through town, but rather fly along the outlines (shoreline etc.), which makes more sense image-wise anyways.
In general, you always have to check separately before a flight whether you are allowed to fly there (there are apps and websites of each national aviation authority, in this case Austro Control with its DroneSpace map.
I have another, more recent video with the new rules that apply from Jan 1st 2024, it is for whole Europe and has all the new rules. It's shorter and more entertaining, too 😉 You can look here: ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
Thanks for your great video! I bought a Dji Mini2 (less than 250 gm). May I ask that do I need license worth 330 euros per year to take pics&videos in Austria?
Happy that it helps. Your feedback is very much appreciated. You do not need this licence. I have not been flying drones back then, but I think that this media licence was the case a few years ago in Austria, and that remainders of this information still linger around on the internet. But that's not valid any more! Hope that helps!
Thanks for the super clear info. Can you clear up a point about photos/videos for personal use please? The drone-laws website implies you need permit from Austrocontrol to take photos, is this the case as I cannot find anything about it on their website. I plan to bring my mini2 to Kitbuhel next month from the UK.
Hi Gary, thank you very much for your feedback! Happy if it helps.
According to my information, you don't need any permit to take photos or videos, you just have to register your drone.
Of course, you have to adhere to privacy laws, but that has nothing to do with Austro Control (they are only responsible for airspace use/laws). I don't know privacy laws inside out - I'd just use common sense. I don't take photos or videos with people in it where you can clearly recognize them or make videos in detail of someone's garden/appartement/private space etc.
Sorry that I cannot give you any more details on this aspect, but as long as you respect other people's privacy, you're good to go. And if you use it only for personal use and don't upload/publish your media, I wouldn't worry too much anyways :)
I hope you're going to have a good time in Austria!
If I can help with anything else, just let me know.
Tom
@@t0mwhazzup Thanks Tom, much the same as here in the UK, don’t be a dick. I’m looking forward to getting back to Austria. Gary
@@garyhill9723 You're very welcome! And most of the time, people are positively curious and some even like to be filmed if you offer to send them the footage. Who doesn't want to be featured in some stunning drone shots? 🙂 I've been to Cornwall last month and there I happened to capture two women swimming and dancing on the beach and later talked to them and offered them to send them the footage. They also agreed to be featured in my short travel film about Cornwall which I'll be uploading within the next few weeks. You cannot recognize them identitywise, though.
I am a believer in talking to people and treating everyone as I'd like to be treated and I usually get along very well. If people are around, I ask them if it's okay for them if I fly and I have yet to get a negative response. Hopefully it stays like that.
Have a good time and if you ever choose to upload your drone videos, let me know!
All the best!
Thanks for a great video!
What are the rules around the photos/videos taken. Do I need to apply for a permit to share videos e.g. TV or RUclips.
Depends on what's in the footage/photos you have taken. You have to take care of people's privacy. But that's a different issue which is not really related to drones per se and therefore I didn't cover it. If you don't upload videos of people or in any other way not publicly accessible places/things, I would not worry too much. But of course that might be different from country to country, and I am by no means an expert in that area.
Hope that helps 🙂
@@t0mwhazzupIn Sweden we have to get all Photos reviewed by ”government” unless they are excused. The special occasions that DO NOT require approval are “if it does not contain the horizon” and some other special conditions.
So e.g. if it is taking pictures of a ski slope with lifts and you see the sky, it must be sent for approval. Seems like it is easier in Austria based on your comment.
@senilssonpn Where do you get that from? Tbh, I have no idea about the laws in Sweden, but I wonder how accurately they're executed.. I mean, there's lots of Swedish RUclipsrs as well and I strongly doubt that the government reviews their videos beforehand 😉
Hi Tom. Thanks for the information.
Do you have any Tipps about seeling drone shot footage via shutterstock for instance? What is allowed, what is not?
Hi! Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with selling drone footage via shutterstock, sorry.
Hi Tom, many thanks for your video
I have got all the information that I need them. I have only question: I have drone less than 250 Gram with camera. How can I get liability insurance? Is there specific websites that I can register for that? Please supply
I'd say the easiest way would be to get one in your home country. Usually drone liability insurance is worldwide coverage. Just google it for your home country.
My insurance policies are from www.airandmore.at but I don't know if they take clients from outside Austria. But as I said, usually you take on an insurance in your home country, just check that coverage is worldwide. Hope that helps.
Perfect. So if i am registered in Czech Republic with drone I dont have to registered in Austria right? Thank you
Exactly, you're good to go!
Hi! Can i use a racing fpv quadcopter? In the fields, for example, without insurance, documents, without anything to just go launch the drone and fly. Without licenses and the second. I am not from Austria, but I am interested in this.
Hi, unfortunately it's not legal. The same rules and requirements apply to FPV drones, and most probably (but not sure) you'd rather have to stick to open category A3 (far from people) independent of the quad's weight (because the higher speed has greater impact). But that's just speculation on my part.
When you're from within the European Union and are registered in your home country, registration is also valid in Austria, and if you have insurance it might also cover flying in Austria.
If not, registration is around EUR 32,- for 3 years and insurance you can get for around EUR 40-60,- per year.
And when flying with goggles, you'd require another person to act as spotter.
Hope that helps!
Hello Tom, thank you for those informations, great video!
I want to fly DJI FPV Avata drone in Austria (it has 410 grams), and I have done all the things, except for insurance. Now I am searching for one, but in my country - I am from Czech Republic - are not that many companies that do the insurance. Another thing which is an issue is the price for the insurance here - coverage of 750.000 SDR for EU costs 350€ per year here, and coverage worldwide except US & Canada costs 400€ per year. When I saw those prices, I was just shocked. So i am wondering, if companies like Airandmore do insurance even for people that are not from Austria.
Thank you a lot for help in advance 🙂
I have three drones insured at Air and More. You can ask them about CZ, usually they respond very fast. Avata is below 450 g, so you might get their insurance for mini drones, which is a bit cheaper 🙂
If you get the insurance there, you could mention me as referral (there is a form field for that). Not sure if that gives me any advantage but it couldn't hurt either 😬
Thank you for fast response 👍, unfortunetly they said that insurance can be taken only with main residence in Austria or Germany 🙁
@@999Lynx Oh no. Very sorry to hear that. I had the same problem when I tried to get an insurance in Germany (40 Euros per year for up to 3 drones - WAY cheaper than in Austria). But they accept only German residents.
I really hope you find another solution for you that is not as expensive as the known ones.
Hey, thanks for the nice video. Im planning to film some offpiste skiing in the Tyrol. I guess its still recreation area, even offpiste, so I will be safer with 249gr drone, as air2s is more 500gr. Also, the drohne-info app is not available for me in google store/apple (Im in UK, not sure why they do that) Is there any website to check for nature restriction areas in Tyrol?
Hi Edgar! Thanks for your feedback. Regarding your question - I have received quite a few comments that say that these apps are not available in other countries. Which is a pity. You could try an VPN, maybe that helps! Otherwise I would simply download the app as soon as you're in Austria.
I am not aware of a web version of the Drohnen-Info map that includes nature restrictions... but if nothing else works, let me know where you want to fly and I'll look it up for you.
And if it's very windy and there are no people around, I'd probably go with the Air 2S as it is more stable in the wind.
Hope that helps!
Tom
@@t0mwhazzup Thanks Tom, Ive tried with VPN without the luck, it looks like something to do with the region of the play store when you initialise your phone etc. I will check with tourist info when I get into Austria/ Cheers, safe flying :)
Yeah, that might be the case. But it's stupid 🤷🏻♂️ I hope they can help but don't set your hopes too high. People don't know much about drones and would rather say don't fly when in doubt. Anyways good luck and if you need any information, let me know! Merry Christmas!
Hello Tom, my name is José Luis and I live in San Antonio Texas, on September 20 I will be traveling on vacation to Europe specifically in Austria, the Czech Republic and Germany, I just bought a drone (DJI Mavic Air 2s) and I am thinking of taking it with my registration in Dronespace can I use my drone in the 3 countries or do I have to register it in 3 different sites?
Hola José Luis, sorry for my delayed response. I hope you arrived well. To your question, you just need to register in the first EU country you fly in. Registration is valid for all the other countries of the EU as well. Have a great trip and beautiful flights :)
I carried my Mini 3 Pro all the way to Hallstatt. When I arrived at the spot shown in your video, there was a sign that Hallstatt is a UNESCO site and that everyone is asked to NOT fly drones in Hallstatt... Since I did not know if it was a legal requirement or just a wish that can be broken without any consequences, I kept my drone in the bag. It was a big disappointment for me.
@@kotolows I think that just putting up a sign doesn't make it a legal requirement. Not sure though.
But you would, in most scenarios, not be allowed to fly there anyways because it might impede privacy of people, and at least during daytime you would not be able to avoid overflying assemblies of people because it's so busy there.
You can still get great views with your drone if you film from the water like I did, or from outside Hallstatt. The view on Hallstatt is more impressive than the view from within 🙂
I have a new video on the updated drone laws from 2024 (for all Europe because it's now mostly harmonized) as well:
ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
@@t0mwhazzup I did plan to fly and record the town from the water area and not inside the town. The obvious starting point is still on the ground exactly where the sign with rules/requests was put up. I considered 2 alternatives: 1. rent a small boat and start and land on it, 2. start from way above the town behind the triangle view point. It is not clear what is the border of the no-fly zone, if there is indeed one. I haven't observed anyone flying. I think that place requires special attention/clarification for the drone enthusiasts, so if you are able, please make a video that explains the rules in details.
@@kotolows Sorry, unfortunately I don't have time for that recently. I also got creative and took off from the other side of the lake. Which puts the drone out of line of sight (too far). So whatever you decide for, it might not be 100% legal 😉
1. Unfortunately, the Drone Space app is not available for me, probably not to anyone whose phone has a no.-Austrian Google account. It simply is not available in the Play Store.
2. The Drohnen Info app does not work on my phone. Isn't there some web-based map? It would have benn so much more convenient.
The rules as I quickly skiooed through them actually talk about a ban in Naturschutzgebiete in general. Are you sure just excluding national parks and bird areas is sufficient? I am mostly concerned about Dachsteingebirge for cave exploration and was very surprised by your videos of Hallstatt.
The views of Hallstatt were really nice! We normally just quickly go through that crowded town when going to or from the Wiesberghaus. But I always enjoy the ferry from/to the train station.
Unfortunately, at the time of producing this video, I was not aware of the fact that the apps mentioned are not available in many countries outside of Austria (which is very stupid in my opinion).
There seems to be a web-based version of Drohnen-Info here: www.oeamtc.at/drohnen-karte/map
It is really complicated with Naturschutzgebiete. Each county (we have 9 in Austria) is responsible for those laws and there might be differences - I have not found a definitive conclusion on this.
You are allowed to fly in and around Hallstatt even though there might be some signs that say "No drone zone". They put those signs up just to prevent too many tourists to fly but there is no legislation to my knowledge that prevents you from flying there. BUT you are, depending on your drone classification, not allowed to fly over people or assemblies of people AND you have to respect the privacy, so be very considerate. I have only operated my drone along the shoreline of Hallstatt and above the church area when there were not many people around, so that should be fine. But be always prepared that somebody walks up to you, people are very sensitive there and even though there might be no legal basis for the "No drone zone" signs, I would still see it as a plea from the people of Hallstatt to respect that at least in a way to not obviously disturb the people there or intrude in their privacy.
Sehr schön, danke. Wo befinden sich diese Ruine am Anfang des Videos?
Burgruine Senftenberg 🙂 Sorry, dein Kommentar ist irgendwie untergegangen. Tut mir leid!
If I already have A1, A3 and A2 drone operator certificates from Denmark, and I want to fly my DJI Mini 3 Pro and record video with it, does it mean that I do NOT need to obtain any additional "papers" or permissions or perform any payments or registrations, and I can simply fly the drone in the allowed areas, up to 120m?
Exactly. Just be registered as drone operator in an European country and hold the required licences (from a European country) for your drone type and you're good to go. I have a more updated video on European drone rules for 2024 (which also applies to Austria), you might want to watch it: ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
Austro Control app doesn’t appear to be available for US users.
The austro control website isn’t comprehensive on what space is allowed and I wish this video went more into using the site.
Sorry I missed your comment. Maybe I can help, what exactly needs further explanation? If you go to map.dronespace.at make sure you select "en(glish)" in the upper right corner. And on the map itself, each colored area is an area in which you are not allowed to fly. In order to get more details, set a pin where you want to fly, and if there's an area restricting drone use, you get information on the left side. If there's more than one area at the site you put the pin on, you'll get a list of areas and you can click each to get further information. In general, wherever there is a colored area, you are not allowed to fly, BUT (opposing to the app) in the browser based map there are also areas that do not start from ground (e.g. the big yellow area northwest of Vienna starts at 2500 ft above ground). I don't know why they include such areas in the map as they are not relevant to drone pilots in the open category (up to 120 m / 400 ft above ground). So that makes it a little more confusing than the app.
Did you look for the other app, Drohnen-Info? Is it available in the US? It might look a little bit more confusing but once you figure it out (check the video for that) it has complete information to offer (compared to Austrocontrol sources) as it also includes areas that restricted drone use not related to airspace structure (like national parks etc.).
I hope I could clear things up. If not, let me know and I'll try to help.
Cheers!
Hello Tom, great video!
Im planning a holiday and read some things about drone flying in Austria that where not mentioned in the video.
I have read that you need to get a permit from Austro control when your drone Weight is above 250 gram (.55lbs) or if the drone is flown above 30 meters (89 feet). And you always need a permit, regardless of whether the videos/photos are for private or commercial use.
If you dont have a permit you could get a fine of 22000 euro's.
I dont know if this is still relevant (i assume it is), but maybe you can explain this.
Greetings
Hi Marco,
thank you! Happy to hear if it is of any help to you.
Most probably you've read some old information. Generally in Europe, there have been some major changes since before 2021, where EASA guidelines came into force in Europe. I didn't mention all this in detail because I didn't want to make the video longer than necessary. The individual states can deviate from those EASA rules in certain points (which could make it potentially more complicated), but Austria applies the EASA rules mostly as they are (except from additions regarding national flight restriction zones etc.).
The height limit is generally 120 m. There might be some restricted airspace that starts at an altitude below 120 m, which would mean that you would be allowed to fly only up to the altitude at where the restricted airspace starts. But I am not aware of any airspace like that. Always check the apps individually for the location you want to fly in. I prefer the Drohnen-Info app as it includes all possible restrictions (like national parks etc) while the Dronespace app considers restrictions of the airspace itself only. The Drohnen-Info app might be more confusing to people that don't speak German, but as I explained in the video, as long there are only two points mentioned in the selected location (one being the allowed flight altitude, the other one being whether you are allowed to fly over people or not - depending on the drone category you selected), you are allowed to fly. Additional points impose restrictions.
You can send me the link where you've read about the 30 m altitude restriction and that you need a permit above 250 grams and I can check it for you if it has any validity.
Of course, I cannot take liability to give you 100 % valid information, but I'd say I am quite up to date when it comes to the flight rules here and try to provide the best information I can.
When it comes to commercial flying, I am not aware that there are any additional requirements like permits, at least not by the state of Austria. With private property, I'd assume you might have to check of course with the property owner if commercial filming is allowed. As I am a hobby flyer only, I cannot give you accurate information about that.
What are you planning and what drone do you use?
Greetings, Tom
@@t0mwhazzup Tom, you did a great job, really ! I have Mavic Air 2, I have passed an exam for A2 category, have a certificate but till today I didn't know whether I can fly in Austria or not without special permission from Austro Control. Tell me one thing - is there an obligation to register a flight in some apk on smartphone or just see if I can fly in specific place ond obey the rules ? In Poland for example I have too register additionally a flight in our application on a smartphone.
@@waldemarnowak4001 Hi Waldemar, thank you very much for your feedback! You do not need to register your drone or a flight in the open category. Just an operator ID and if flying a drone heavier than 250 g you need to pass the online exam OR do the A2 exam (which is even better). You're good to go!
Hello Tom, thanks for this video. I am from the UK and currently visiting Austria with my DJI mini 2 drone. I am confused on how to take the insurance? Can you please recommend how I can take a insurance for a month?
Hi Rahul, honestly I don't know if there is insurance for one month only. Do you have insurance back in the UK? If so, check if it covers Austria as well. My insurance covers worldwide (except for USA), maybe yours too? My insurance is airandmore.at but I think they do only one year minimum policies, it's around 50 Euros for sub 250g drones.
I hope that helps and I hope that you enjoy your stay here in Austria ☺️ If I can help with anything else, please let me know.
Hello, I am from Malaysia. Regarding the "dronespace website".... i can't register for the austrian language. Is this website provide english version ? or any others solution?
Hi, unfortunately it's only in German language. That's why I guide you through the registration process in this video. Just follow along from 1:18 onwards! I hope that helps!
Hi Tom! I am planning to go to Austria soon for mountain biking! I was wondering if you know if it’s possible to fly (in summer time) on the ski slopes. Since they’re used for mtbikers during summer. I tried to download the app but it’s not working in my country (NL). Great video tho thanks for that!
In general, you can fly above ski slopes as long as you comply to the rules & regulation (distance to people) according to your drone classification. But specifically you have to check the apps or maps whether there is an area that restricts drone use.
Please check the links in the video description. The maps are also available in a browser-based version, so you don't need the app 🙂
@@t0mwhazzup okay thanks for the response!!
Hello Tom, thanks for the video very helpful! I have dji mini 3 pro and planning a trip to Salzburg and Hallstatt. Are we allowed to fly drone over there considering i have registered and have insurance as well. I cannot download the mentioned apps. Thank you in advanced!
In Salzburg city you cannot fly, it is within the security zone of Salzburg airport and strictly forbidden.
Hallstatt itself is a no drone zone, there are signs there. The residents don't want you to fly there because there are so many tourists and drone pilots so that can be pretty annoying for them, I imagine. As long as you don't conflict with privacy laws, you can fly there legally, but I'd advise you to do it in a way that does not annoy anyone. I have flewn over the lake to get a good shoreline view of Hallstatt, but not really over Hallstatt itself.
Yes, the apps are unfortunately not available in foreign app stores, but I have put a link in the description to the browser based map tools where you can check your locations.
Hope that helps ☺️
@Tom Whazzup Thank you for the quick response! I generally fly in the morning to avoid disturbing others, and ya, I won't be flying over Hallstatt just over the lake from some secluded place.
@@user-sf3ye7gy6u Enjoy your travels 🙂
Can you please make a new video for 2024 becuase its much different and I don't understand anything, I tried everything and watched everything so please make a new video.
I did an updated video for 2024 half a year ago. It's about European drone rules, but it's more or less harmonized now, so the video is also valid for Austria. The video is on my channel or just follow this link: ruclips.net/video/wDmL3SfBBlQ/видео.html
@@t0mwhazzup thank you
@@WilfsBlox You're welcome, I hope it helped with your questions!
hii I did registered as a operator. how to add Assets in operator account section. Can you clarify this point. another thing I got registration number in mailbox, so this is my operator ID ?
Not sure what you mean by assets.
The operator ID is what you have to put on your drone.
Hi, is it an obligation to register a flight somewhere? Or just check if I can fly (no restrictions) in applications you have mentioned in the video, obey the rules and that's it ?
No need to register a flight itself! :)
Hi Tom, Thanks for your video, its help me a lot. One question, on the drohnen map, under the info about maximum flight altitude I get something like „Maximum kinetic energy” byt without any numer or nothing, and what its mean for me and my flight? Thanks
Hi Robert, thank you for your feedback! 🙂 What drone are you flying?
@@t0mwhazzup FPV, about 700 grams, I’m registred in Poland and passed exam for A1/A3 here.
@@t0mwhazzup Could you explain this to me if you can?
I am very sorry Robert, I missed your answer. 700 grams can definitely only be operated in cat A3, so at least 150 m away from residential, industrial etc areas and no uninvolved people near the area. I am not sure about a limit of kinetic energy in A3. I don't think there is one, but be sure to check EASA website for that.
I hope that helps!
Hi Tom, I’ve got Dji mini 2 (249 grams) and I was wondering in order to fly in Austria do I need insurance ?
Yes, you do. But it's like that in most countries I know.
Awesome, thanks! Seems like neither app is downloadable on Android though. Says it's not available on my device (Samsung Galaxy S21) - I'm guessing country restriction or something.
Sorry to hear that 😕 In that case, I think the browser based map from Austro Control is the best way to go...
Or maybe you can install the apps as soon as you're in Austria
I doubt so, normally app restrictions are tied to the country of registration of the Google account.
@@fukav1am Thank you for the info!
Hello Tom, I have a question? i did register my drone here in the Netherlands by the RDW, there i got a special number which I attached to my DJI Mini 2. So now i just need a liability insurance that is valid in Austria and then i am good to go, or do i still miss something? plus i will stick to the general rules. i am not really interested flying over urban areas. I like to use it during my hikes into the mountains to capture myself. So the 330 euros for filming myself isn't an issue anymore? another question, for the insurance i just tried it by air and more, but they only accept Austrian postcode, do you think i can use the adress of a guesthouse legally were i stay?
If the special number from the RDW is your Operator ID, you should be good to go. In general, Op IDs from a country within the European Union are valid in all EU countries :)
There is no information about a filming fee on the Austro Control website anymore and I was in contact with them and they did not mention a word about that - this seems to be old information on drone laws website. Unfortunately they can't keep up to date with all country laws.
Regarding air and more, I'd suggest you contact them yourself. I'd suppose that like with every insurance you need to give your real resident address. If they really don't accept customers from outside Austria, which I don't believe, I'd try to get a drone insurance in the Netherlands. Usually they are valid worldwide (like air and more, except US and Canada).
Hope that helps! Let me know if you need any further help.
@@t0mwhazzup hey Tom that was a fast reply, thanks for your help mate, are you yourself from Austria or Germany, cause I heard you speaking German in de video? Yes indeed I got my personal registration ID in the Netherlands, so now just the insurance, great! Would really love to capture those beautiful views in the beautiful Alps in Austria 🏔️👍😀
@@mauricelamain1978 You're welcome! And yes, I am from Austria 🇦🇹 I hope you enjoy your stay! Looking forward to your drone videos!
You were allowed to fly over Hallstatt?
You can fly over Hallstatt when you don't impair peoples privacy and when you don't fly over assemblies of people - which is almost impossible most of the time with all the masses of tourists strolling around there. But filming Hallstatt from the water is easy - no overflying of people there 😉
What happen in airport security if we didnt register our drone or as operator? Because im only have 1 day at Austria and not intend to fly in Austria due to lack of time, but the only problem is my arrival is to Vienna airport. I afraid the authority will seized my drone and fine me. Can please help me on this issue. Tq Tom🙏🏻
Hey Brado, that should not be an issue at all. If possible, put the drone in your checked luggage. Batteries in fireproof battery bag in hand luggage.
If you're only travelling with hand luggage, it should not be an issue either. Drones are not forbidden to carry with you. Just store the batteries responsibly in a fireproof bad and you'll be good. Safe travels!
Thanhs tom. Really helpful. ❤
Hey Tom, great video! Have a question regarding the insurance. Is there an option to get insurance just for some short time? I'm planning on visiting Austria in 2 weeks just for a week or so. If yes, do you know where I can get it? I have my insurance but only for my country. Thanks a lot for the helpful video!
I don't know specifically about it. You could ask at airandnmore.at if the could individually offer something like that. If not, I would simply ask at your drone insurance company if they could offer a short term insursance for Austria.
Thanks for your feedback 🙂
@yezzirproduction did you manage to find insurance company?
Hi. I have already passed the exams and I have EASA Drone operator ID. Do I need to register at Dronespace regardless or not?
No, if you have EASA drone operator ID, you're good to go!
Hi Tom thanks for the information i have a mini 3 which i wish to bring on holiday with me in Vienna which places do you recommend that i can fly which are not crowded (not Christmas markets of course) but central so i can film some of your beautiful sights, I am registered in Malta which is part of the EU and also have Insurance.
Hi Andy! Are you only going to stay in Vienna? Unfortunately, in Vienna it's not permitted to fly any kind of drone without special permissions (which are only granted in rare cases that serve public interest, so there's basically no chance). Sorry to bring the bad news to you 😕
@@t0mwhazzup only in Vienna this time for a short visit thought would ask. Thanks a lot for the info.
@@andybg1972 I hope you can still enjoy your stay. The christmas markets are always nice to visit 😊
@@t0mwhazzup definitely will thanks, and hopefully in future will manage to visit some of the country side of Austria
@@andybg1972 Sorry, I have just received new information. Since August, you are technically allowed to fly below 30 m altitude in Vienna with drones lighter than 250 g. BUT you are still not allowed to fly within a radius of 2,5 km from hospitals with heliports. Therefore, it is still not possible in most of Vienna, but at least some spots in the suburbs are possible to be flown above. The apps I mentioned in this video have the update already. All other rules (like not flying above crowds) are also still applicable.
Do you have any recommendations for insurance companies?
Well, I use the insurance by Air and More (www.airandmore.at), it's an Austrian one but luckily I have not had any insurance claims, so I cannot really say whether it is good or not. But I have had a few questions that they always responded to very quickly and they were very helpful (in German, though). They have worldwide coverage except for US and Canada.
Generally, I would check online in your own country and try to find recommendations on Google.
Hope that helps!
@@t0mwhazzup Thanks, this is helpful to know. I will look in Canada to see what I can come up with, but may try them for the time I am in Austria.
@@getdownmikelove Generally I think I'd prefer to have insurance from a company that speaks my language. But if you happen to go with Air and More and need any language assistance, let me know.
Can anybody help and tell me how can i get an insurance while i'm not a EU citizen
I don't know, but I would assume that if you get a drone liability insurance in your home country that coverage is usually worldwide. Check it.
Kann ich in Bad Kleinkirchen rechtgemäß fliegen?
Laut Drohnen Info App befindet sich dort ein Heliport, also im Umkreis von 2,5 km davon ist es während der Betriebszeiten verboten. Die genauen Ausmaße siehst du in der Drohnen-Info Map.
@@t0mwhazzup ich habe es geprüft aber es gibt ein Problem mit dieser Netzseite. Wenn ich ,,mehr Informationen klicke, gabe ich grauen Bildschirm
@@t0mwhazzup kannst du für mich bitte prüfen welche Betriebszeiten dort gelten? Um wie viel Uhr kann ich ruhig fliegen?
@@rembi4400 Laut AIP Austria ist der Heliport Bad Kleinkirchheim von 1. Dezember bis 1. Mai geschlossen. Etwas östlich davon ist noch das Helipad Patergassen. Dort sind keine Öffnungszeiten verlautbart, aber hier ist die Telefonnummer, falls du nachfragen möchtest: +43 1 71199-1510
Und hier hast du alle Heliports in Österreich laut AIP: eaip.austrocontrol.at/lo/220128/PART_3/AD_3/LO_AD_3_en.pdf
@@t0mwhazzup danke schön! In meinem Fall interesiert mich nur westlichen Heliport LOKB. Ich werde in der Nähe von ihm wohnen
When I have a account on EASA page ist it enough?
What account on EASA page and is it enough what for? Please be a little more specific 🙂
European Union Aviation Safety Agency I will write in German :). Ich habe mich dort registriert. In Polen muss man kurze Prüfung ablegen um beispielweise mi DJI mini 2 zu fliegen.
@@rembi4400 Generell ist es in Österreich so, dass du mit einer Drohne mit Kamera als Drohnenbetreiber registriert sein musst in einem EU Land (also wenn du in Polen registriert bist als Drohnenbetreiber, reicht das). Die Easa Registrierung kenne ich nicht. Wenn deine Drohne über 250 g hat, musst du auch noch den online proficiency Test machen. Wenn du nur die Mini 2 hast, ist das aber nicht nötig 🙂
@@t0mwhazzup danke! :)