I’m inclined to think it’s the latter, especially for the 3rd driver who was way too close - possibly on their phone. This part of London is home to some of the wealthiest and most entitled people in the world.
and i bet these same car drivers are the first to moan about bikes jumping Red Lights (which is wrong no argument); but the above car actions just shows car drivers are not perfect .
I am elderly and have not driven a car for over thirty years. If I remember correctly, you MUST ALWAYS give way to pedestrians crossing at zebra crossings. But only if there is no traffic light. If there is a traffic light, pedestrians are not allowed to cross on the red man! Please confirm that this is still the case. I ask because in other videos I have seen, it seems that pedestrians are always expected to have the right to cross, even if there is a traffic light and the pedestrians have a red signal. Thank you very much!
Which would be something I consider completely wrong. If there's a traffic light, everybody has the right moment to go. I only agree with pedestrians crossing anytime if the streets are empty. So it doesn't really make any difference. 🤔 I personally almost always wait until the traffic lights go green for me (as a pedestrian). Unless I can clearly see with no doubt there are no vehicles coming.
I usually respect zebra crossing. There are some situations that I don't because it's obvious how it's easier for the pedestrian to wait. When I'm walking and I find myself in these situations I try to not show intention of crossing because it's easier and more efficient to just let the vehicle keep going. Situations like in the video I consider a complete lack of politeness. The pedestrians are clearly trying to cross. You can see it by far. You don't even need to stop, just slow down. By the way, you shouldn't approach intersections, specially with zebra crossings speeding. You must approach ready to make a stop. 🤔
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This is so common in most european countries I've been, that I've actualy wonderd, if drivers are even requested to stop by the law. In France I was once nearly run over by a driving school car on a zebra crossing. It stopped last second, although I was clearly visible for 100m+. :D
Drivers are only obligated to stop once a pedestrian is actually on the crossing. If they standing on the pavement next to it, cars don't have to stop (although many do).
@@richardvalvona1159 I've aways thought that the rule is absurd. A pedestrian has to take a leap of faith - once they step off the kerb into the road, they are hoping that the car will be able to stop. As a driver, I stop at a zebra when there is no-one on it in two situations: firstly, if the person is standing at the crossing on the kerb, looking to the other side - they are clearly wanting to cross; secondly if they are walking purposefully towards the crossing and will have reached it before I will. As a pedestrian who is wanting to cross, I look over my shoulder as I am walking along the road just before I turn to cross. This sends a signal "this pedestrian is checking for traffic and is about to cross - I need to slow down and stop unless I will be beyond the crossing by the time the pedestrian reaches it".
Recently went to Krakow where drivers ALWAYS stop for pedestrians. Very polite of them. My Polish colleague told me the law had recently been made more strict.
While not excusing the fact that the cars failed to stop at zebra crossings, do you believe that cyclists should also stop at zebra crossings which have people crossing them? Because I see that a lot - and there is no way to report them to the police for "notice of intending prosecution". *All* vehicles (cars, buses, lorries, cyclists) must stop at red traffic lights and occupied zebra crossings. I've witnessed two occasions when cyclists have ridden at full speed into zebra crossings, making pedestrians scatter left and right.
Yes cyclists must stop in teh same way. What's your point? I think you are trying to excuse forcing a ton of steel through groups of people at speed. If you see someone mugging do you try to deflect the conversation onto burglars?
@@bestbehave No. I'm not in any way trying to excuse a car/lorry/bus driver driving into people on a zebra crossing. All I'm saying is that their registration number means that they can be reported to the police if eye-witnesses see them and they don't stop. A cyclist who fails to stop is less likely to be traced. OK, they do *less* damage if they hit someone but not zero damage - there have been cases in the news of cyclists who have killed someone by knocking them over so they land badly. Once as a pedestrian, once as another cyclist, I've seen cyclists ride at zebra crossings with people on, and they didn't even appear to *try* to stop. In one case, the cyclist swerved around a woman who was pushing a pram, skidded across the road, narrowly avoided going under an oncoming bus, and then got up and started ranting at the woman, looking as if he was about to attack her for "daring" to be on a zebra crossing. My mate, who was built like a brick outhouse, restrained the guy and we both made statements to the police, Hopefully the police threw the book at him. In the second case, I was approaching a crossing on my bike, and I saw a long line of pedestrians, probably part of a walking tour (it was in the centre of Oxford). I slowed down to stop, and heard someone behind me yell "Out of my f-ing way!", and a cyclist came storming past me, pedalling rather than braking, causing the tourists to scatter. I tried to give chase, but he was too fast for me. I was very disappointed (and I said so fairly forcefully!) that when I happened to see a beat copper a few moments later, he didn't seem at all interested in pursuing it, even though I could give a description. His attitude was "these things happen". My view is that no-one should be above the law. Strangely, I've never witnessed a motor vehicle ride *at* people on a zebra. I've occasionally seen them drive over a crossing when someone has started to cross, but not actually in such a way that they would have hit the person, just made them take a step backwards. Still illegal, still needs to be punished. So I'm not excusing motorists. All I'm saying is that sometimes cyclists do things that motorists do. The consequences of a collision are less severe, but the chances of them being reported to the police via an indentifiable number plate, are a lot less.
@@drummerjo571 Of course. But you can also be killed by choking on a LEGO brick. Or a needle if it hits you just right. It's about risc management. You're much more likely to die in a car crash or by a gunshot, than by a needle or a bike.
@@betchaanbetjane7045 I’m happy to be a witness. Do you have a problem with witnesses in general? Grass is a term used by criminals and school children.
@@Pedal_Perspective I don’t have a problem being a “witness”, I have been a witness in numerous court cases. The concern I have are all these silly little people, grassing up motorists when they have no obligation to do so. As a cyclist you don’t pay Road tax, ergo you have no right to whinge#inmyopinion
@@rdrhouse none of the cars stopped. I did. I submitted it he full unedited clip to the police with my full details. They didn’t issue me with a penalty. Try to think critically for a moment and consider why…
@@Pedal_Perspective I have no need to "think critically", it's plain to see you moving forward onto the crossing as the two women are still on it. You're own video condemns you as a hypocrite.
He's probably lonely and like many others want to get views and validation online by reporting drivers, not justifying the drivers in the video btw. OP also clearly cycled past the crossing too while the pedestrians were still on it and cut it out of the video. Hypocrite.
"Just a teenager that takes petty problems with life and turns them into a ten minute video of me screaming into my broken Xbox mic, while a bunch of shitty animations fly across the screen." Bro, society is collapsing and this is what you are putting your energy into?
Absolute barbarians. Do they not see the people or do they simply not care?
I’m inclined to think it’s the latter, especially for the 3rd driver who was way too close - possibly on their phone. This part of London is home to some of the wealthiest and most entitled people in the world.
and i bet these same car drivers are the first to moan about bikes jumping Red Lights (which is wrong no argument); but the above car actions just shows car drivers are not perfect .
Cyclists should stop at red lights. and these arseholes should respect pedestrian crossings!
I am elderly and have not driven a car for over thirty years. If I remember correctly, you MUST ALWAYS give way to pedestrians crossing at zebra crossings. But only if there is no traffic light. If there is a traffic light, pedestrians are not allowed to cross on the red man!
Please confirm that this is still the case.
I ask because in other videos I have seen, it seems that pedestrians are always expected to have the right to cross, even if there is a traffic light and the pedestrians have a red signal.
Thank you very much!
Which would be something I consider completely wrong. If there's a traffic light, everybody has the right moment to go.
I only agree with pedestrians crossing anytime if the streets are empty. So it doesn't really make any difference. 🤔
I personally almost always wait until the traffic lights go green for me (as a pedestrian). Unless I can clearly see with no doubt there are no vehicles coming.
I usually respect zebra crossing.
There are some situations that I don't because it's obvious how it's easier for the pedestrian to wait. When I'm walking and I find myself in these situations I try to not show intention of crossing because it's easier and more efficient to just let the vehicle keep going.
Situations like in the video I consider a complete lack of politeness. The pedestrians are clearly trying to cross. You can see it by far. You don't even need to stop, just slow down.
By the way, you shouldn't approach intersections, specially with zebra crossings speeding. You must approach ready to make a stop. 🤔
I'm not European. Here where I live most drivers don't respect it as well. I would say 95% of them.
J Walkers who dont seem to care fir drivers is one thing. But drivers not respecting the crossroad markings are anither
Jaywalking doesn't exist, either legally or socially, in the UK.
@@_Madfly Oh my bad.
thats only an american thing
Cyclists are guilty of this too
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@@RubyDashcamAcademy yes
@@Pedal_Perspective Thank you so much!
2 tier lawless and self centred UK as its best!
Good for reporting then
Imported driving standards,same as the increase of u-turns into junctions back onto main roads.
Maybe the cars were bring driven by cyclists
This is so common in most european countries I've been, that I've actualy wonderd, if drivers are even requested to stop by the law. In France I was once nearly run over by a driving school car on a zebra crossing. It stopped last second, although I was clearly visible for 100m+. :D
Drivers are only obligated to stop once a pedestrian is actually on the crossing. If they standing on the pavement next to it, cars don't have to stop (although many do).
@@richardvalvona1159 I've aways thought that the rule is absurd. A pedestrian has to take a leap of faith - once they step off the kerb into the road, they are hoping that the car will be able to stop.
As a driver, I stop at a zebra when there is no-one on it in two situations: firstly, if the person is standing at the crossing on the kerb, looking to the other side - they are clearly wanting to cross; secondly if they are walking purposefully towards the crossing and will have reached it before I will.
As a pedestrian who is wanting to cross, I look over my shoulder as I am walking along the road just before I turn to cross. This sends a signal "this pedestrian is checking for traffic and is about to cross - I need to slow down and stop unless I will be beyond the crossing by the time the pedestrian reaches it".
Recently went to Krakow where drivers ALWAYS stop for pedestrians. Very polite of them. My Polish colleague told me the law had recently been made more strict.
Hi mate, hope u are doing well. Is it okay to use it please ? With credit of course, thanks in advance and have a good day.
@@Dashflix yes
@@Pedal_Perspective Thank you mate.
While not excusing the fact that the cars failed to stop at zebra crossings, do you believe that cyclists should also stop at zebra crossings which have people crossing them? Because I see that a lot - and there is no way to report them to the police for "notice of intending prosecution". *All* vehicles (cars, buses, lorries, cyclists) must stop at red traffic lights and occupied zebra crossings.
I've witnessed two occasions when cyclists have ridden at full speed into zebra crossings, making pedestrians scatter left and right.
Yes of course cyclists should also stop.
Yes cyclists must stop in teh same way.
What's your point? I think you are trying to excuse forcing a ton of steel through groups of people at speed.
If you see someone mugging do you try to deflect the conversation onto burglars?
@@bestbehave No. I'm not in any way trying to excuse a car/lorry/bus driver driving into people on a zebra crossing. All I'm saying is that their registration number means that they can be reported to the police if eye-witnesses see them and they don't stop.
A cyclist who fails to stop is less likely to be traced. OK, they do *less* damage if they hit someone but not zero damage - there have been cases in the news of cyclists who have killed someone by knocking them over so they land badly.
Once as a pedestrian, once as another cyclist, I've seen cyclists ride at zebra crossings with people on, and they didn't even appear to *try* to stop. In one case, the cyclist swerved around a woman who was pushing a pram, skidded across the road, narrowly avoided going under an oncoming bus, and then got up and started ranting at the woman, looking as if he was about to attack her for "daring" to be on a zebra crossing. My mate, who was built like a brick outhouse, restrained the guy and we both made statements to the police, Hopefully the police threw the book at him.
In the second case, I was approaching a crossing on my bike, and I saw a long line of pedestrians, probably part of a walking tour (it was in the centre of Oxford). I slowed down to stop, and heard someone behind me yell "Out of my f-ing way!", and a cyclist came storming past me, pedalling rather than braking, causing the tourists to scatter. I tried to give chase, but he was too fast for me. I was very disappointed (and I said so fairly forcefully!) that when I happened to see a beat copper a few moments later, he didn't seem at all interested in pursuing it, even though I could give a description. His attitude was "these things happen". My view is that no-one should be above the law.
Strangely, I've never witnessed a motor vehicle ride *at* people on a zebra. I've occasionally seen them drive over a crossing when someone has started to cross, but not actually in such a way that they would have hit the person, just made them take a step backwards. Still illegal, still needs to be punished.
So I'm not excusing motorists. All I'm saying is that sometimes cyclists do things that motorists do. The consequences of a collision are less severe, but the chances of them being reported to the police via an indentifiable number plate, are a lot less.
@@Mortimer50145 so go and make a video about it
You’ve already been told people on bikes have to stop, enough with the whataboutery
well done.
But, how do I report them? I have taken down the registration number, but there is nothing online to file any reports!
Oh those sweet little cars, aren't they cute... ....just another way they're destroying our cities.
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Hello, how's it going? May I feature this clip on my channel? If so, do you have any additional comment on the incident? Thanks for your consideration
Yes. 2 out of 3 drivers accepted fixed penalties instead of going to court. 1 had no further action.
@@Pedal_Perspective Thank you!
Yeah but cyclists...🙄
That was so dangerous.
1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
TFTFY
Driving like a cyclist.
With the difference that an average bike won't kill you that easily.
@@laurensnieuwland4657 But they do kill. Let's not forget that. The families of the people who have been killed by cyclists won't.
@@drummerjo571 Of course. But you can also be killed by choking on a LEGO brick. Or a needle if it hits you just right. It's about risc management. You're much more likely to die in a car crash or by a gunshot, than by a needle or a bike.
@@laurensnieuwland4657 Risk is managed by laws on the roads.
@@drummerjo571 Unless the laws are badly made. Take a look at how the Dutch do it for a good example, take a look at the US for a bad one.
Look at that : car drivers behaving just like cyclists at crossing. The motorists must be watching and learning from those ‘ green ‘ cyclists .
What is a green cyclist?
They made the police cross
If pedestrians stop on crossings and take out their orange jackets, you're screwed, best run the crossing
Why don’t you become a Policeman?
@@betchaanbetjane7045 why would I?
@@Pedal_Perspective Do you prefer grassing people up deceptively?
@@betchaanbetjane7045 I’m happy to be a witness. Do you have a problem with witnesses in general? Grass is a term used by criminals and school children.
@@Pedal_Perspective I don’t have a problem being a “witness”, I have been a witness in numerous court cases. The concern I have are all these silly little people, grassing up motorists when they have no obligation to do so. As a cyclist you don’t pay Road tax, ergo you have no right to whinge#inmyopinion
@@betchaanbetjane7045"Why do you care if a driver could have killed pedestrians, you pay no road tax". Oh the hilarity.
u would make a good stasi officer u can be so proud
Based on one report of dangerous driving? Interesting
strammer is right, I bet you were that kid at school. "Mrs. Teacher, little Johnny is trying to copy from me!"😅
@@dimitristripakis7364 Nah, you were the kid who started crying when you got called out for bullying
and you at 0:14 (edited time)
Nope
@pedalperspective6653 yes you did, they are still on the crossing just like your examples of the cars, hypocrite.
@@rdrhouse none of the cars stopped. I did. I submitted it he full unedited clip to the police with my full details. They didn’t issue me with a penalty. Try to think critically for a moment and consider why…
@@Pedal_Perspective I have no need to "think critically", it's plain to see you moving forward onto the crossing as the two women are still on it. You're own video condemns you as a hypocrite.
@@rdrhouse if you’re unable to see the difference then there is very little we can do to help you. Have a good day and drive safe 👍
How do you have the energy to be angry at this? Society is collapsing and this is what you are putting your energy into?
I’m more surprised than angry. How do you have the energy to make a 7 minute long video about your hate for vegans?
He's probably lonely and like many others want to get views and validation online by reporting drivers, not justifying the drivers in the video btw. OP also clearly cycled past the crossing too while the pedestrians were still on it and cut it out of the video. Hypocrite.
"Just a teenager that takes petty problems with life and turns them into a ten minute video of me screaming into my broken Xbox mic, while a bunch of shitty animations fly across the screen."
Bro, society is collapsing and this is what you are putting your energy into?
nigga@@redbakery8943
Don’t be a busybody mate. If you insist then America will suit you greatly
I highly doubt moving to a country where cars and guns rule would suit me.
US has 40k deaths to road violence a year - I think that might be more appealing to _you_