War Thunder's New Monetization Has Me Worried (But Slightly Hopeful)

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @veritusahriman9720
    @veritusahriman9720 11 часов назад +112

    Gaijin = adds yet another T-80UD to the game with the only difference being thermals and it sits in the Chinese tech tree. Stug IV when? Bishop SPH ? Priest SPH? Type 4 Ha-To for Japan? Brazilian Osorio? Yugoslav M-84? Ukrainian T-84? Humvee modifications? Toyota technical variants? Hummel? LA-9RD (V-1 rocket pulse jets on wings of LA-9, thank you Animarchy)!
    There are countless fascinating vehicles that have yet to see the light of day in War Thunder but what we get instead is incessant copy-paste. I don't mind some ctrl+v to help minor nations fill tech tree gaps when needed, but this is just absurd at this point.

    • @portrasdamascara8750
      @portrasdamascara8750 8 часов назад +3

      I would love if they add F5EBR or The m3 Stuart of late 60s in Brasil or any crazy stuff because more t80s is crazy even a T-64 with a turret of T-55 dat was tried to sell for some african countrys we need crazy and controversial stuff Fun things to play

    • @fatcat2546
      @fatcat2546 8 часов назад +1

      Agree with your point, but I'm also amused that I literally just finished the new video, come here, and see someone else who did the same, and referenced that horror of a plane. XD

    • @GroveAD
      @GroveAD 7 часов назад +4

      France is so forgotten you didn't even mention it.

    • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
      @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 7 часов назад +3

      I agree, we need far more WWII SPHs than just the post war M44.

    • @veritusahriman9720
      @veritusahriman9720 7 часов назад +1

      @@GroveAD Feels bad, but true honestly. Worst part is I've got 12.0 french ground too lmfao. Ok, Jaguar IFV then would help their versatility at top tier for sure

  • @alpha-0874
    @alpha-0874 12 часов назад +63

    And 0 of these dollars will go into new game modes.

    • @StrayGuard
      @StrayGuard 5 часов назад +4

      They dont even have to make new modes, they could just bring back fully developed modes that they relesease just one time, like Air RB EC or Ground Convoy Assault. Those were great and gaijin removed them despite people loving those modes.

  • @carsonalley1045
    @carsonalley1045 12 часов назад +177

    I understand why people are against ge-ing a squadron vehicle but I will be doing it for the su33 because I’m active duty navy and don’t have time to grind anymore and soon to be father in 11 weeks

    • @iulianelul7721
      @iulianelul7721 12 часов назад +45

      Congratulations sailor!

    • @kitkatfisher7018
      @kitkatfisher7018 12 часов назад +13

      Congratulations matey and aye your times going to speed past but make sure to have 'playtime' be it WT or another game.
      You'll need unwind time but enjoy being a Dad

    • @D3stiny-f6y
      @D3stiny-f6y 12 часов назад

      Good luck in fatherhood mate

    • @veritusahriman9720
      @veritusahriman9720 11 часов назад +6

      Honestly completely understandable. I've been GE-ing marks of distinction that I miss due to work for events as well

    • @squilliam4734
      @squilliam4734 11 часов назад

      Congratulations!

  • @1crazyfloridaguy786
    @1crazyfloridaguy786 11 часов назад +24

    The last time they increased prices their sales dropped. The community will keep them in check

  • @garyddpaul01
    @garyddpaul01 11 часов назад +30

    It's getting a bit mad when a single vehicle will cost you as much as a whole new game.

    •  10 часов назад +3

      Then. Don't buy it meng that's simple. Quit window gazing and getting mad cuz u can't buy it. That will get u bitter in no time

    • @1degRazz
      @1degRazz 8 часов назад +11

      he didnt even say he wanted to buy one, hes just saying the price of them is stupid? which it is? i get you might still be 12 years old and you still have mommys credit card to buy you things but youll understand when you start spending ur own money

    • @bradenhagen7977
      @bradenhagen7977 8 часов назад +3

      You don't need to shill for Gaijin. If they could sell 1 play for 5 grand they would. Nothing wrong with voicing your option about a game wringing out it's players for every cent.

    • @ursensitiveinagayway4016
      @ursensitiveinagayway4016 7 часов назад +1

      Bro a single vehicle that costs $85 USD is way too fucking much. My friend lives in Australia and that $85 USD turns into $135 AUD. How tf are people supposed to get value out of that when you can buy 2 triple games instead or a whole year of ps plus

    • @Iden_in_the_Rain
      @Iden_in_the_Rain 6 часов назад +1

      I’ve got no clue why the max vehicle cost isn’t lower than $40. To me, even $50 for a single vehicle is insane, let alone $80

  • @ludaMerlin69
    @ludaMerlin69 12 часов назад +53

    Hmmm. 1 pixel tank, or 1 new release AAA game? 1 pixel jet or 4-10 games on sale?

    • @freeabrums8311
      @freeabrums8311 12 часов назад +12

      One pixel tank in wt > any dogshit game

    • @hansohasashi5093
      @hansohasashi5093 11 часов назад

      ​@freeabrums8311 what are you on my dude? 😭
      +15 gajin coins i guess

    • @_Mattz1nho
      @_Mattz1nho 11 часов назад +1

      @@freeabrums8311 if you're limiting yourself to only buying dogshit games, that sounds like a you problem.

    • @nattythepanda4692
      @nattythepanda4692 11 часов назад

      @@freeabrums8311 For the price of one $80 vehicle in War Thunder, I can get pretty much this year's entire GOTY roster in the upcoming Steam winter sale.
      So no, it's not better

    • @theblackclaw170
      @theblackclaw170 10 часов назад +1

      Anything than AAA game

  • @Z45HR4
    @Z45HR4 7 часов назад +6

    F-117 being a squadron vehicle makes sense to me. Because it's a weird, unique vehicle with honestly pretty poor performance.
    So it doesn't make sense as a premium (where there's an expectation that the vehicle will be worth the money.)
    It doesn't make sense for it to be in the tech tree for similar reasons (how would you like to grind for a couple months for the F-117 only to find that it's terrible and useless?)
    It would make sense as an event vehicle. But it's a mainline production vehicle that is still in active service in the USAF and it's an extremely popular plane, so it'd lead to a ton of FOMO and locking stealth planes behind a one time event that would take more time to grind than most people are able to put in.
    So in all legitimacy, making it a squadron vehicle makes the most sense. It's free, it's always available and you won't have to use it at any point if you don't want to (eg using it to research the next bomber.)
    I don't see that as a cash grab personally. Just because some amount of people will be too impatient to grind it with squadron RP, doesn't mean that Gaijin is being shady or predatory about it.

    • @Tigerman7warfighter
      @Tigerman7warfighter 5 часов назад

      Finally, someone with a brain, thank you for spelling it out to people. It's as you said a poor vehicle that only has its novelty going for it. Putting it as a squadron vehicle is the best place to put it. If you wanted a cash grab they could have made it the dreams come true event instead of the kv-7 and pissed everyone off most likely because then you would have to grind or pay out the tasks to get it if you didn't have the time, but they didn't they put it in the most free to play accessible spot in the game other than putting some length to the grind by making it so you can only get 20k RP every 3 days based on the size of the squadron you're in.

  • @90witito
    @90witito 10 часов назад +9

    I honestly don’t mind the squadron vehicles but they should lower the amount needed to unlock them and increase the reward you get from playing the game, I’m in the navy and for me is hard to grind since I got limited time at home.

  • @ashman8891
    @ashman8891 12 часов назад +51

    WT has been nothing more than a scam for a long time now. I've never paid any money into the game and I'm proud of it. I've still managed to get almost half of all premiums in the game through marketplace trading before gaijin screwed everyone over there too

    • @charliezw3287
      @charliezw3287 12 часов назад +14

      Time is money

    • @julmdamaslefttoe3559
      @julmdamaslefttoe3559 12 часов назад +3

      @@charliezw3287 This. If everyone had top tier years ago, The playerbase would be dead.

    • @thatdudefrom7118
      @thatdudefrom7118 12 часов назад

      @@charliezw3287what the sigma

    • @meepmeep3018
      @meepmeep3018 11 часов назад

      Started playing in 2022 and has that mentality up until now. I've only completed Japan air tree and France ground but I have a bunch of premiums from the battle pass and events. I got and event vehicle and sold it for ge and recently bought a year premium and a pack for money for half off during the sale. I was proud I didn't spend any money but I realized it was t worth it to spend so much time grinding. For the record I used a visa gift card so idk if that counts.

    • @cuda010
      @cuda010 11 часов назад +2

      Do you walk into other businesses and demand stuff for free?

  • @rachan_hd8427
    @rachan_hd8427 12 часов назад +14

    The fucking DLC is more expensive than most AAA games, I only buy on sale because the release prices are a fucking shame

    • @DerDrecksack87
      @DerDrecksack87 2 часа назад

      Who cares, most AAA games are hot garbage anyway and even if not they are collecting dust after a playtrough or two...

  • @wanderwale7512
    @wanderwale7512 9 часов назад +5

    I just see squadron vehicles as free vehicles that you get over time

  • @yourbelowaveragewarthunder8654
    @yourbelowaveragewarthunder8654 10 часов назад +4

    i am more worried about copy paste tech trees and the prices. not so much about squadron vehicles.

  • @firebat2120
    @firebat2120 12 часов назад +28

    I think the main reason you are seeing a lot of F-117's is because it is a very iconic aircraft. People are more willing to spend Golden Birds on it to unlock it faster. I kind of feel this is more of a collector's game when it comes to most things.

    •  10 часов назад

      Yes man let people spend what ever the fuck they want on. Wtf is this broke ass migga mentality.

    • @1degRazz
      @1degRazz 8 часов назад

      its still scummy, its the price of a premium but you get none of the benefits and its a useless vehicle. theyre just using the nighthawks popularity to trap people into buying it so they get peoples money

  • @alexpayne2662
    @alexpayne2662 10 часов назад +8

    They need to reduce to price of lower BR vehicles if they want to shove more higher BR packs in our face

  • @45atanner
    @45atanner 13 часов назад +10

    Yea they have started to add 10 premium tanks to 3 tech tree tanks

  • @Anti-Airliner
    @Anti-Airliner 10 часов назад +4

    I do agree they are adding tech tree capable vehicles as squardron vehicles but im glad the f117 is a squadron because i wouldnt want to grind to get the next bomber using it

  • @therealavenger3537
    @therealavenger3537 9 часов назад +2

    I couldnt care less about the Su-33 being a squadron vehicle. It's just a heavier Su-27S we already have with the same armament.

  • @itzzmadness-_-6712
    @itzzmadness-_-6712 12 часов назад +6

    Gaijin is going to go the DCS route with making every plane you can buy be $100

    • @jooj_br
      @jooj_br 10 часов назад +2

      at least each plane in dcs took weeks if not months to develop and model

    • @itzzmadness-_-6712
      @itzzmadness-_-6712 6 часов назад +1

      @@jooj_br the same happens with planes and tanks in wt and just because it takes time doesnt mean its worth $70+

    • @WZNGT
      @WZNGT Час назад

      But they won't even spend the 10% of the efforts that DCS studios have, even demand the players to privide source documents for them to Implement buffs or fixes.

  • @aronsetegmplys
    @aronsetegmplys 10 часов назад +3

    i really like squadron vehicles cuz they are literally free jets and props without me needing to give my life and soul to the grind, but thats just me

  • @Joe_Real
    @Joe_Real 10 часов назад +4

    Honestly i think that premiums should get cheaper the further you are in a tech tree, say the viggen is 80$ at rank 1-2 70$ at 3-4 60$ at 5-6 and so on

  • @gentlefush8020
    @gentlefush8020 9 часов назад +3

    I think this could be somewhat compensated by making it so if the players GE the vehicle, they get a free talisman thrown in with it. well, "free".

  • @nathaniel1207
    @nathaniel1207 7 часов назад +1

    Issues I have with squadron vehicles: if you aren't a daily player and/or don't belong to a squadron you can't get it. They almost exclusively make squadron vehicles for the high tiers, which only makes it harder to grind them and more likely to be bought by new players to "skip the grind" but in reality they get screwed because squadrom vehicles aren't premium. They would rather sell you non premium vehicles for GE, but they can't get away with that. So they call them squadron vehicles, and make it impossible to grind in a reasonable amount of time, but still point to it and say: "but its free too!" it's a shitty use of a good concept to extort players.

  • @eErTiStReE
    @eErTiStReE 12 часов назад +7

    I left war thunder for dcs, great idea. But when I saw multiple war thunder planes being priced higher than full fidelity aircraft on a game based around realism (and is actually playable compared to top tier)

    • @IceManHG117
      @IceManHG117 10 часов назад

      Your comparing apples to oranges. People don't play WT for realism and fidelity. Its for quick 10-20 min bursts of gameplay. Not everyone has the hours to devote to a study sim like DCS.

    • @eErTiStReE
      @eErTiStReE 10 часов назад +2

      @@IceManHG117 1. It doesnt have to be a study sim, they have FC24 which many people use if they dont want to learn the inside and outside of planes, but ignoring that ig.
      2. WT should not be charging $80 for a plane that is even slightly worse than top tier especially since top tier is as unplayable as it is. Not only are they adding expensive ass vehicles but how many updates has it been since they said they would fix top tier. We are getting vehicle updates and visual updates but that doesnt matter when the game is as point and click and get third partied every match
      (not to mention DCS has quick games, not everything on there is a multiple hour milsim)

    • @TheTISEOMan
      @TheTISEOMan 2 часа назад

      @@IceManHG117 He's talking about value and the amount of content you get. You spend 80 dollars for a pixel plane that sucks donkey dicks and more than likely has performance issues, or you can spend that same money on a plane that's fully featured.
      Less "ERMMM DASSS A SIIIIMMMMM" and more "Look how much I can get for the same money for better quality."

  • @NestoriWasTaken
    @NestoriWasTaken 11 часов назад +5

    4:36 dude, like all the finnish players (including me) have wanted it (BMP-2MD) to be added, it doesn't help that it doesn't have APFSDS or a laser rangefinder

    • @letsgobrandontrump2024
      @letsgobrandontrump2024 5 часов назад

      As someone who has been killed by many of your nations ifvs and stolen leopards I’m glad you don’t have apfsds signed a tired Italian main

    • @tenarmurk
      @tenarmurk 4 часа назад +1

      ​@@letsgobrandontrump2024deserved for being Italy main

  • @acywei
    @acywei 8 часов назад +2

    I don't understand the complaint? You talk about accessibility with a vehicle you can grind for free or choose to buy. That is literally the definition of accessible in F2P grind games. If you don't have money, grind it. Have some back bone and patience, both of which snowflakes these days lack. Or buy it cause you don't have time to grind or don't want to. Squadron even more accessible because you can start grinding them whenever you want, even without the tech tree unlock. There are dedicated squadron vehicle grind squadrons that takes anyone as long as the player is active daily.
    You want to talk about crap Gaijin, talk about how they F'd the market.

  • @yamatokurusaki5790
    @yamatokurusaki5790 13 часов назад +22

    BMD4 moment
    Squadron should have no penalties for research at least
    Also i dislike the line up pack since both of them are better Tiger 1Hs and both of the tanks are Tigers and 1 made up vehicle
    They still haven't made it worth it to shoot down planes in group RB

    • @sleir7556
      @sleir7556 12 часов назад +1

      The ostwind isn’t a fake vehicle from what I remember. I think you might be thinking of the ostwind II?

    • @atomev8
      @atomev8 12 часов назад +6

      @@sleir7556 that’s why he is talking about the pack, the pack has a ostwind II, not the basic one

    • @Evangelion_on_top
      @Evangelion_on_top 12 часов назад +5

      @@sleir7556yeah it comes with the ostwind II I think

    • @yamatokurusaki5790
      @yamatokurusaki5790 12 часов назад +1

      @sleir7556 there is Ostwind 2 as far as i know

    • @itzzmadness-_-6712
      @itzzmadness-_-6712 12 часов назад +1

      i mean the Ostwind 2 was real it was just a prototype and the war ended just before it could be used

  • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
    @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 7 часов назад +1

    As I've said on other videos complaining about Gaijin, they have a top tier addiction and there seems to be no signs of them getting help.

  • @floomuscw6628
    @floomuscw6628 10 часов назад +3

    Also, the fact that you still have to research all the parts for squadron vehicles is a travesty. They should come fully researched. The amount of time it takes to get them and *then* having to grind for all the shit is just a waste of time.

    • @Brzzzyexe
      @Brzzzyexe 9 часов назад

      i almost have the yah-64 and i'm dreading the grind i will have to do for it

    • @txcgladiator4030
      @txcgladiator4030 7 часов назад

      @@Brzzzyexeluckily the YAH actually isn’t too bad as long as you play heli battles until you get ATGMs

  • @antonkorte5060
    @antonkorte5060 12 часов назад +3

    F117 is a novelty vehicle perfect squad vehicle

  • @SpazzGibbon
    @SpazzGibbon 11 часов назад +1

    the problem is that premium players who have a jet with radar missiles and 3hrs of gameplay are usually dogdirt and will ultimately make your chances of winning the game lower

  • @goombaa8866
    @goombaa8866 7 часов назад +2

    Gaijin have always used dark consumer practices to make their money. I have only seen WarThunder players play $60 for a single vehicle model in a game! It is pay to win and it is absurd.

    • @IG10705
      @IG10705 6 часов назад

      Pay to win? 😂
      I haven't bought squat and I've been taking out those premium gals out left and right

    • @BasedGrandmasKitchen
      @BasedGrandmasKitchen 5 часов назад

      dcs players pay $100 for planes

    • @suzanarubi9254
      @suzanarubi9254 5 часов назад

      ​@@BasedGrandmasKitchenAnd thats for quality models in their game with lots of support

    • @DerDrecksack87
      @DerDrecksack87 2 часа назад

      ​@@suzanarubi9254 what is worth what is subjective, for some 80 bucks for a tank is a lot in WT, for some 48.000 bucks for the ship bundle in Star Citizen is peanuts, one should not judge the price from the own perspective. I played a ton of games since i started with WT back when you only had planes and none of the premium stuff they offer is pay to win, some things might perform better than their counterparts in the same BR, but nothing game breaking. They had much rougher times before, when the T10 was the only tank with HEAT or the IT1 being the only atgm for a long time, back when you could get into a spot on every map and snipe the other spawn ... They came a long way since, but bills are bills and the premiums are keeping the lights on.

  • @kaiahnig
    @kaiahnig 11 часов назад +1

    well they also once said, the bmd-4m is gonna be a squadron vehicle. Now its a premium. But I hope the other bmds are actually gonna be techtree vehicles

  • @JasonLatouche
    @JasonLatouche 12 часов назад +3

    Inflation... Not only with USD but also within the in game economy - artificial inflation. Where the top tech tree MiG-15 I researched 10 years ago is worth nothing right now...

  • @VANDENBURGER_
    @VANDENBURGER_ 12 часов назад +9

    I must say that I’m ok with gaijin putting in top tier premiums as they need to make money somehow and it’s a great way for somebody who doesn’t have the time to grind a tech tree to do that easily BUT it does seem that the amount of premiums and price are getting much too high to be considered reasonable for what you get

    • @imthygamer3566
      @imthygamer3566 12 часов назад +4

      Dude gaijin does not need the money they have several games that are as manipulative as war thunder. They do not need the money

    •  12 часов назад +3

      LMFAO . Spoken like someone who doesn't know jack shit about business . NO COMPANY EVER WILL SAY "JEEZ GUYS WE HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY " LMFAO.

    • @txcgladiator4030
      @txcgladiator4030 7 часов назад

      You might genuinely be the most mentally disabled shill I have ever seen

    • @txcgladiator4030
      @txcgladiator4030 7 часов назад

      Get a life, get a job, and stop shilling for billion dollar companies

    • @DerDrecksack87
      @DerDrecksack87 2 часа назад

      ​​@@txcgladiator4030 if you had a job premium would not be an issue dude, him telling how it is aint shilling. Nobody is forcing you to pay or play in WT, if you dont like how it is, go play something else, easy & drama free.

  • @ILikeIcedCoffee
    @ILikeIcedCoffee 9 часов назад +2

    The packs are probably $60 if we are lucky.

  • @Skyrim279
    @Skyrim279 12 часов назад +1

    I'm actually looking forward for the tiger lineup pack, only because of the premium ostwind lol, but at whatever price it comes out I'll wait until its 50% off, no digital thing is worth its original price

  • @newguyiswinning
    @newguyiswinning 11 часов назад +2

    The F-117 should never be in the tech tree. It is the definition of a squadron vehicle in that it is a very niche, sub vehicld

  • @ml-fishing1341
    @ml-fishing1341 11 часов назад +1

    I grinded the event BMD4 years back and its why I play Russia at all. So damn fun and effective

  • @Narzgel_WT
    @Narzgel_WT 11 часов назад +2

    I mean, someone needs to pay for the development of the game. F117 is perfect as a Squadron IMO, and I have no problem with the Su being a squadron as well, since its actually not that useful compared to other SU's.

  • @TheBudkai
    @TheBudkai 11 часов назад +1

    I've finally been able to play just one army, saves me a ton of $$$

  • @Sigmagnat650
    @Sigmagnat650 9 часов назад

    1) As you said with the new Tiger and Ostwind pack(s)- more options means lower chance of one-death-leave, so at higher tier the number of premiums could help. Given the financial commitment though, there's little guarantee it will help the problem unless bundle pricing is on offer with a high value proposition.
    2) I feel that since the player strike, there's been a bit of a rug pull. Over time it appears RP and SL gains have tightened a bit, and they've done it slowly over time so that they can get back to a point where frustration pushes purchases without too many people noticing. This would explain the Cap'n Crunch attitude toward vehicle additions- "oops, all premiums".
    3) As for the BMD-4M going premium, I get why they're doing it the way they are- if they have a tree variant alongside or before it, it would cannibalize sales of the premium so it becomes a bit of a wasted effort. I don't fault them for it as it's just good business sense, I just hope it doesn't turn into another A-6E TRAM situation- that thing was released in the Apex Predators update (Dec. 2022) and we were told there would be tree variants of the A-6. Two years later, and there's less than zero news on that front.

  • @sirbonobo3907
    @sirbonobo3907 12 часов назад +3

    Got hyped and bought 2 Times Premium time at 40€ in Sale. And some ge i already regrett it.

    •  12 часов назад +8

      U regret premium? This ain't for you then .

    • @txcgladiator4030
      @txcgladiator4030 7 часов назад

      Do you shill for gaijin in every comment section?

  • @FaistoilTheFox
    @FaistoilTheFox 12 часов назад +4

    As someone with a job, I would rather just buy the squadron vehicles than grind for months

    •  10 часов назад

      Alot of broke ass foos here complaining. Mfers window shopping and getting mad LOL

  • @rodneycook3674
    @rodneycook3674 3 часа назад

    Crew slots costing GE and crew skills in general are the biggest pay to win factor in the game. 5 crew slots just isn’t enough at high BR especially. Hate spending GE on it.

  • @nk1952
    @nk1952 8 часов назад

    I'm not surprised that the bmd4 is premium. The holidays is here so perfect time to put them up.

  • @viperz3r016
    @viperz3r016 12 часов назад +5

    This should not be a squadron vehicle, but yet again, another damn jet where lil Timmy will still get clapped in with my Mirage, because skill can't be bought.

    • @peosio96
      @peosio96 10 часов назад

      Isn’t that a good thing, more easy kills for us?

    • @DerDrecksack87
      @DerDrecksack87 2 часа назад +1

      ​@@peosio96 the community is gonna cry either way😂

    • @peosio96
      @peosio96 2 часа назад

      @@DerDrecksack87 fr, it’s like nothing is ever enough. If Gaijin followed everything they say they will go bankrupt.

    • @DerDrecksack87
      @DerDrecksack87 Час назад +1

      @@peosio96 yep, been like that for a looong time, the community finds something to cry about every year and content creators always pushing drama because it brings the views aint helping.
      I love this game, all the hours i spent playing it on & off for 10 years or so was worth it for me, more than all the AAA titles i played in the meantime and never touched again and the bad ones probably cost me more than every premium in one of the 3 big nations together.
      Some ppl need to chill or take a timeout, others need to think about all the entertainment they got for free and never supported the devs with a dime, but those types are always the loudest.
      I for myself, i am just happy to be able to play so many different aircraft, ships & ground stuff from across history, if this game fails there wont be anybody doing something like this, so i hope they keep their business model + i like to grind with high BR, starting at 1.0 for the 5th time aint charming for me😅

    • @peosio96
      @peosio96 Час назад +1

      @ yup I’m on the same boat. There is nothing like it out there in the market rn and even tho the devs are not perfect they have been working their asses off to give us these amazing machines of war. Them adding premiums does not affect my fun whatsoever.

  • @BlackThanator
    @BlackThanator 11 часов назад

    Honestly I would've preferred the Nighthawk to be a premium.
    Its more of a meme than useful in a lineup and with Techtree or Squadron placement it doesnt even give you the premium bonuses to make up for its shortfalls.

  • @astrogumbie2399
    @astrogumbie2399 Час назад

    100% agree with you to a point, but Gaijin doesn't need to add special earned vehicles to Trees whats the point of earning them in events at that point?

  • @renetlatoani444
    @renetlatoani444 7 часов назад

    The moment there is a clear competition to WT like Delta Force is for Battlefield (WOT doesn't count because it is more arcade than anything) that moment we'll have the WT we always dreamed off because gaijin will actually be scared of lossing players and those players will not be coming back

  • @alice_muse
    @alice_muse 4 часа назад

    I still think squadron vehicles should be team-play oriented. So engineering vehicles, ammo resupply trucks, refueling planes, AWACS, etc. Not just bad premiums that you have to grind.

    • @DerDrecksack87
      @DerDrecksack87 2 часа назад

      They are pretty decent and help getting a lineup if the only thing you have is a premium, just throw a talisman on it and you can grind most high BR vehicles with them. Supply stuff makes more sense in something really squad based like Squad or Arma, but it doesnt make sense in the fast paced combat of WT, especially since we got ammo crates in ground and most jets wont survive until they need refueling anyway, nevermind being easy targets in resupply vehicles. Besides aint nobody want to play the waterboy of the military 😂

  • @ANukeWithLegs
    @ANukeWithLegs 11 часов назад +1

    my life has somewhat improved since I stopped playing WT at least when it comes to stress

    •  10 часов назад +1

      Games stress u out ? LMFAO 😂😆😂😆😂. Soft ass mfers

  • @ChloelsCool
    @ChloelsCool 2 часа назад

    I just love when gaijin adds yet another event vehicle thats the exact same thing but with 2 added features!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @PvtPartzz
    @PvtPartzz 10 часов назад

    The points made about monetization practices for high tier ground units seems pretty moot when you acknowledge how not fun the game is at those tiers.
    Those games last like 45 seconds before you have someone sniping into your spawn or dropping AGM’s into it.
    It just isn’t fun. Getting high tier vehicles for a game mode that feels more like call of duty than anything else is foolish unless you just like the novelty of “having” them.
    When they give us new game modes to play with I’ll consider giving them money again.

  • @hunterparke9059
    @hunterparke9059 4 часа назад

    I buy the new vehicles just due to me not having the time, if I wanted to grind something I would go to work. I get why this sucks for a lot of people, but I just want to sit down and be able to fly the new planes with my buddies, if I have to pay 30 or 60$ to get the new tech tree or premium, or squad vehicle so be it, golfing is more expensive at a cheaper course these days:/

  • @exoterminator-01
    @exoterminator-01 8 часов назад

    The problem is people are still buying the slop premiums. Every time a new one drops, I hear from several CCs how shocked they are with how many people use their links. Plus there's still the pool of whales who drop tens of thousands a month on WT for absurd reasons

  • @LatinaGaming88
    @LatinaGaming88 10 часов назад +1

    thr f-20 was worst premium as they added it in such a way that i cant really be added to any a tech tree and it would have been a lot better if they added it as f5g then 2 updates later the f20 is added so its both

  • @jilezka
    @jilezka 9 часов назад

    Idk, I don't feel like grinding a whole ass tree just for F-117 or Su-33 and by doing this gaijin allows people like me to still experience other tech trees. And like... I you want to get to those tiers by regular grind you still generally buy some premium vehicle, so I don't see the issue really

  • @Phantom24425
    @Phantom24425 6 часов назад

    In regards to the convertible rp, I'm a believer that they should be harder to get, but free to use. It annoys me so much when I look at the amount available being like 15-16 million or something like that and I can't touch any of it without spending money

    • @IG10705
      @IG10705 6 часов назад

      Right. I have 10k I'd like to use but can't because it is behind a paywall

    • @BasedGrandmasKitchen
      @BasedGrandmasKitchen 5 часов назад

      Yeah, the problem is its gonna be really hard to do that beacuse most of the playerbase has over 100k convertible rp so if they make it free ppl are gonna skip half the game

    • @Phantom24425
      @Phantom24425 5 часов назад +1

      That's true, but I'd be perfectly fine if they cut like 78% of it or sum like that so I can at least still use a decent amount, but not enough to break the game

  • @tws1man582
    @tws1man582 6 часов назад

    If the F-117 was to be in the regular tech tree it would have to be folded under something so people could skip it. It’s largely worthless outside of its cool factor.

  • @josippetkovic389
    @josippetkovic389 11 часов назад +1

    I play as a non premium currently at 10.0 Brits. Every now and then I get 40 000SL chest. It does not really matter because you can comfortably earn 30 000 per match in RB.
    Grind is not that bad also both for tech tree and squadron vehicles - you just have to be member of random active squadron. Overall situation is not that bad

  • @Xale86349
    @Xale86349 10 часов назад +1

    With the current state of the game, they might as well be selling hacks in game for GE.

  • @BBFCvids
    @BBFCvids 3 часа назад

    I have spent money to GE a few planes/tanks in my time playing, I've regretted it in a few instances but not always.
    If you want to GE a plane/tank and crew entirely you can be close to 15,000 eagles for top tier depending on how much you spade/ace
    I'm lucky to be able to have the income to spend if I choose, however with prices as they are now, I find myself comparing the planes under a metaphorical microscope vs just talisman on the TT version.. Premium vehicles, same as squadron vehicles at the moment do not feel unique enough, or suffer from the compression same as most TT vehicles do rendering their benefits moot
    Gaijin need to cap their pricing.. or offer bundles that don't included the bundled eagles and premium time for less if they want to continue adding top top tier premiums
    I think that if Gaijin want to help their income they really need to revisit the idea of SL talismans that work alongside the RP ones for normal TT, this would also increase the variety you'd see in battle as it'd make other aircraft/tanks viable without going broke

  • @ozmodius3337
    @ozmodius3337 2 часа назад

    I predictced the SU-33 in Febuary and so grinded my entire naval line just to learn it would be a squadron vehicle

  • @antonkorte5060
    @antonkorte5060 12 часов назад +3

    Honestly I like the way they put those vehicles it creates hype and is grindable

  • @c44448
    @c44448 12 часов назад +2

    Its not just the vehicles, just look at the grinding events. Previosly you could miss one star now you cant. You got the cupon to sell it at all stars. Now you have to grind at least double or tripple the points you would need for all stars to just get the cupon.
    Even the sell price of stars got moved higer, at 80% grinded you still pay half price and at 95% you still pay 30% of the price you would pay for the full star. All in all the monitarization got outright preditory but it seems like noone cares. Than after some time when the newly implimentet vehicle is out and everyone got it, it gets moved in a bad spot that makes it unuseable.
    But do not worry the next big expensive thing is here you can now pick it up for only 80 $ and it will be good for another few months untill the next premium gets put into the game. Just to name a few. The saab is sad, same goes for the f5C, Mig23 is also pretty bad. not that you cant use those vehicles but they are outclassed in there br and you mostly get kills because you play against noobs.

  • @rodolfohernandez3303
    @rodolfohernandez3303 11 часов назад

    The only Money i put on War Thunder is on Premium Accounts, the one that's 20 days. But since i've started to play WT way back in 2019 i had never bought a Premium Jet

  • @hrvatskisnajperist4999
    @hrvatskisnajperist4999 10 часов назад +1

    But you can just get is like a normal person with squadron points so idk why would you spend ge thats just a skill issue

  • @Seri-m8q
    @Seri-m8q Час назад

    I feel like vehicles you can buy with GE or cash should either be prototypes of tech-tree vehicles or be weaker versions than the tech-tree in war thunder

  • @Cruel_Intentions
    @Cruel_Intentions 29 минут назад

    I've been saying this for a while, it's just give them more money. Premium account, premium vehicle packs or GE, unique squadron vehicles if you don't feel like waiting a couple months, battle pass, old and new event vehicles, icons, decals, decorations, skins, trophies many different kinds, hell even changing your username. I mean I could keep going, but I think you all know and get it. Seriously though I have played a long time, and I like the game. But anymore it's insane so many paywalls for just everything. All that for the game to just feels copy and pasted, with no new modes or battles.
    I get it they are a business with a product and need to make money off it, but damn absolutely milking your player base is insane. It is the most expensive free game I've ever played, and it is not even close. Hell, it's the most expensive game I've played, and I've actually spent money just to get others just downloaded so I could play it. There is a reason Greed is one of the 7 deadly sins. It's just a shame.

  • @Warkip
    @Warkip 10 часов назад +1

    you forgot to mention that new premiums are by design op, then right before they eventually nerf them they put them on sale, and gaijin adding a new rank just so that peoples premiums are useless in grinding it so they need to buy a new one they did this already like 3 times)....

    • @Iden_in_the_Rain
      @Iden_in_the_Rain 6 часов назад

      Except the American premiums, though. The RDF/LT isn’t going to be good, and the premium Abrams are all still Abrams which in game are trash

  • @seekerpro486
    @seekerpro486 9 часов назад +1

    If you use convertible RP…… I just don’t know what to say.
    *Seek help?*

    • @txcgladiator4030
      @txcgladiator4030 7 часов назад

      Facts. premiums prices are terrible, but nobody is forcing you to use convertible RP

  • @devilscenturion979
    @devilscenturion979 8 часов назад

    I can kinda understand the f117 being a squadron vehicle because it's it's a novelty vehicle it serves no real place in the tree because theirs no early vehicle to put before it with any stealth capabilities nothing good comes out of having it there and also its limited to gbu's nothing to defend yourself but that su 33 biggest mistake by gaijin by a long shot

  • @undeadkitty334
    @undeadkitty334 10 часов назад +2

    This is exactly what happened to World of Tanks 10 years ago
    they are tripling down on thier current customers because the playerbase is going down. welcome to dead game terrortory.

  • @julmdamaslefttoe3559
    @julmdamaslefttoe3559 12 часов назад +1

    BMD4 SHOULD NOT BE PREMIUM. its like a core vehicle of the VDV?

  • @newguyiswinning
    @newguyiswinning 11 часов назад

    You dont get a say in the monetization changes when you advertise their gambling boxes every time they come out

  • @nmcmm8341
    @nmcmm8341 12 часов назад +1

    Gaijin never chances.. never.

  • @nickzaccheo9294
    @nickzaccheo9294 6 часов назад

    Buying the f117 and making it tailsman was worth it. 13k - 18krp every other game and i unlocked the f-15e in like 2 days

  • @kiri101
    @kiri101 11 часов назад

    You're shouting in to the wind, Gaijin know this but they seek maximal money.

  • @angry_bradley
    @angry_bradley 9 часов назад

    I haven't spent a dime on the game in awhile and i don't plan on it till they fix all the issues

  • @quangnhat5345
    @quangnhat5345 Час назад

    Tbh, i would be happy if people paid GE for premium and squadron vehicle than against it. Because that mean Gaijin get revenue they needed to operate a F2P game instead of opting for more aggressive monetization strategy, like increase repair cost and round cost back in the day, or causing grinding a more pain in the ass experience. Ofcourse the sweaty no life tryhard would hate it because it make them lose the match, but hey, it's just a game, why you have to be mad?

  • @Professor_Ramen
    @Professor_Ramen 7 часов назад

    Ngl when i ge sqadrons where get it down to half price and get it, i already have both su27s so i dont need the su33 one bit, ill just wait until yak141 line gets updates

  • @miuu7616
    @miuu7616 12 часов назад

    I did spent so much money in the early days when prem. packs did cost like 30€ max. Nowadays I bought one pack on sale this year. Kinda funny how they make it such a turn-off for people like me.

  • @maciekGTR
    @maciekGTR 7 часов назад

    Did I just hear " *helping* the player "? The player is a sad pinata, waiting to be struck with the premium vehicle bat, spewing out money. The corporation is not your friend.

  • @mjdsaxkid
    @mjdsaxkid 7 часов назад

    This sounds more like the problem with the player base. I’m smart enough to just let it slowly unlock because it’s FREE! I could be at rank 2 unlocking a rank 7 in a different tech tree. The players are just stupid enough to support these mechanics. We want change? Hit them in the wallet. It’s simple lady’s and gents

  • @Devilmeerkat
    @Devilmeerkat 11 часов назад

    If their going to do it like this at least add a tech tree variant for the vehicles that you know people really want

  • @FARAIM_Enjoyer
    @FARAIM_Enjoyer 7 часов назад

    I’m gonna be honest, the F-117 does NOT make sense for it to be a TT vehicle. Not even a prem. It ONLY makes sense for it to be a squadron vehicle. It’s prob the most niche airplane in the game. You’re getting no argument from me on the Su-33, that’s BS

  • @avantyofi_eri
    @avantyofi_eri 12 часов назад +4

    full production build ? only 24 where made

    • @LatinaGaming88
      @LatinaGaming88 10 часов назад

      That's quite literally a full production build

  • @yummypiee6981
    @yummypiee6981 10 часов назад

    Warthunder really needs a competitor game to put price pressure on gaijiin.

  • @epicbluepixel
    @epicbluepixel 10 часов назад

    They will proceed to make it harder and harder but with very small changes so nobody is complaining. Eventually the game is going to become so hard that it will get less and less players.

  • @markhoward7708
    @markhoward7708 12 часов назад

    The thing they're gonna do with the tiger line up pack is worrisome. They do the same shit in mobile and the prices in mobile are stupidly high! Like how do they think people will pay way more than what they would in the full game just showcases gaijins bottomless greed. With what you say about squadron vehicles, sounds spot on. The convertible rp you get so much of and can only use it with ge, feels like they want you to see the millions of rp you have waiting for conversion and hope your wallet will break open. There's alot of crap practices even for this type of free game it's dumb, and so am.i for investing as much as I have. Shame on us both.

  • @SilentVoid_
    @SilentVoid_ 8 часов назад

    so we first jumped from 50€ packs to 60€packs and then from 60 to 70€ and now they increased the prices again to 80€?

  • @nighttide3079
    @nighttide3079 8 часов назад

    Squadron vehicles have always been those little niche vehicles since they were added and they never gave any kind of Research or SL bonus so quit comparing them. They're collectible vehicles that are Niche and don't really belong in the Tech Tree. I think the SU-33 is a fantastic Squadron vehicle! The only difference from the SU-27 is a better but heavier radar, Canards, folding wings and the ability to land on aircraft carriers. Along with a few anti-ship weapons and such but I don't think we'll see those. I rarely watch War Thunder youtubers because all they do is complain and bitch about everything they don't like.

  • @CecilioSprayetti
    @CecilioSprayetti 12 часов назад

    Pretty sure Russia didn't get a singular nonpremium/nonevent tank this whole year. All they got was SPAA, could've thrown them a bone with the BMD 4

  • @FalconDS9
    @FalconDS9 9 часов назад

    stopped playing this game a long time ago, because it already was too expensive.. i hate grind but im not going to pay that much, again and again and still have to suffer..

  • @harryshuman9637
    @harryshuman9637 5 часов назад

    Another year another player revolt. I'm down for that!

  • @justfly7730
    @justfly7730 11 часов назад

    I paid for premium account and vehicles but it's ridiculous nowadays. I ll play cause I already unlocked nearly everything for Germany USA and Russia and Israel and I ll play other nations normally just for the habit

  • @KeepZeeZ
    @KeepZeeZ 9 часов назад

    Add "premium" sim time that fixes it's economy and use that money to build out the game mode...
    (My HOTAS is $700...)
    Abuse me Gaijin...
    I'll love it.

  • @leandrogutierrez6535
    @leandrogutierrez6535 10 часов назад

    Es una empresa y normalmente buscan hacer más dinero; compra el que desea. Hay premiuns caros que yo no compro a precio regular espero a los descuentos para comprar.

  • @45atanner
    @45atanner 13 часов назад +6

    Dont forget everyone quits just before hitting big 😂

  • @cryptobox128
    @cryptobox128 2 часа назад

    Why I don't use my convertible RP, in one short sentence: Because I'm already way shorter on SL than RP.
    I currently, just at Ranks IV and V, and just in the air tech trees, have about 30M SL worth of vehicles researched and waiting for me to grind the SL to buy them. If I get extra SL, they're going to buy/crew/expert one of those vehicles, not to convert RP to add even more researched unpurchased vehicles to the already long queue.
    RP aren't the limiting factor on my grind. SL are. Simple as that.