Collector Car Market EXPLODES!!!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2021
- 2020 brought heaps of uncertainty to financial markets across the globe. From car values, real estate and the stock market, no one really knew what would happen during these unprecedented times. But as we emerged on the other side of the COVID-19 pandemic, there is one thing that was undeniable. The collector car market had not only remained stable but had started to grow. By the middle of 2020 it was apparent that values for rare collector cars would soon explode and by the beginning of 2021 we say an absolute bull market in the world of high end collector vehicles. Car values skyrocketed 10, 20, 30, and even 40 percent as we saw examples like the Ferrari F40 swell from $1.1-1.3 million cars to well over $2 millon dollars.
Sit back and see what John has to say about this absolutely insane market for people's dream cars.
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Electric fears is affecting the entire market
Used and new.
And ironic as Tesla stock has increased far greater % than these cars. But that’s just straight investment in a company one may agree with for future… it’s not like owning something that you see, enjoy, work on, etc everyday. If you’ll can mix up investments and hobbies that always may make money. Win win.
I saw a red Carrera GT for sale at Naples Motorsports in 2010 for only $379,000. Good times.
Ouch. F for the man/woman who sold it at that price
Indeed. Good time
@@straightbusta2609 All exotic cars were cheap back then. A 550 Barchetta with
You weren't the only one screaming. Problem was that we had the smaller voice. I'm just glad cars are getting their due appreciation. The one I hope to own just before prices skyrocket is the SLR
Slr will do a bit better, but it will be the last of the noughties supercars. What that car offers, ferrari offers a lot better for a LOT less money. 2004 Ford gt however.... it's a bit like the bastard child of the SLR and the carrera gt.
@@cutdepiefails6596 funny how that is already more appreciated than the SLR. People just don't understand the poor thing. Barring the pathetic gearbox, the car is practically the perfect GT muscle car. And btw that gearbox still has character. I'd buy 2 SLRs. One to keep bone stock in black/silver over silver turbine wheels with brown/red interior. The 2nd to modify the car to become up to date with better CCMR brakes, better transmission, and a slightly more updated interior(true to the original ofc)
@@michaelgakanga and the weird braking and being pretty lardy and having a 'fairly' common lump and the maintenance is at par with a carrera gt and parts of the interior are quite shite for the car it is and finally, it's quite heavily sprung/damped.
Do not take me the wrong way, SLR is cool as they come, hell, I saw it unveil as a pre-teen, I freaked out, all I wanted at the time was an SLR, saw the first one in the country before the owner even knew it was arriving, I still remember that some dealers were giving away a smart roadster from brabus when they bought an SLR, it was literally in my wall, but today, for the price or even more I much rather have an 812 than a SLR, 599 all the way to the 812 are just better at being a sporty gt and better cars at every single point bar rarity. But then you see even an 812 and an SLR and you and me know very well what car will draw the attention, ours and people passing.
@@cutdepiefails6596 true. The maintenance issue however is a different case. Who knows why maintenance is so expensive? Maybe it's another Bugatti Veyron situation where money was lost on each car. But again that's just speculation. All other problems you addressed are exactly what I mentioned that I'd fix in the 2nd SLR I'd get
The 996 is a great example of this. Hated for 20 years but now, looking at BaT, you see them coming up. Glad I have one in my driveway
Same.
What goes up must come down. There will be a correction and inflation playing a role also.
Half true. Half wishful thinking. Prices fluctuate but trend up from their starting point. Crashes are rarely defined as plummeting below their historic lows. Countach’s were sub six figures for decades. They’ll never be that low again until the future generation of neural-linked, matrix-wired, virtual-living, Borg-controlled human meat puppets that supplant us don’t care about them anymore.
@@stuffhappens5681 exactly
@@stuffhappens5681 nailed it
Love this channel! great episode!
You may be the first person ever to refer to an F40 as a usable car.
Picking up a manual 2007 Turbo with only 34,000 miles this weekend. I’ve never been more tempted to keep a car and watch the value climb.
That thing will go up without a doubt, thing is not to drive it 😂
Wish I had thought to pick a 997.2TT manual years ago. Now they are impossible to find.
Congrats, I just picked up a 996 Turbo!
@@incar4805 I never liked the 996 but the Turbo with RUF wheels have something to it, enjoy.
Good for you. I missed my chance in 2020.
Don't change John. You're killing it.
Brilliant content. Really enjoyed this episode !
Love your work, I've joked that my collection is an investment, but it's really a way to save the cars & hide them away& enjoy them, it's getting quite frightening how much some of them are now worth, I started buying when I was in high school, I'm now 50, really enjoy checking out your videos, Rj in Oz
Great overload of information! Perfect video!
Thanks again John for taking the time at the show in Monterey showing your great collection of Lamborghini collection.
Thank you..
Great video..
Can’t wait to buy a couple of cars from you in the soon future
Keep it coming! Really enjoy the firsthand knowledge, and great content!
John, episode idea. What cars define a decade, either by value or how special they are.
My quick list:
60s - 250 GTO
70s - Countach
80s - F40
90s - F1
00s - Carrera GT
10s - TBD
00s would be Bugatti Veyron/ Pagani Zonda not CGT IMO.
Can't wait!!!
great video!
NICE JOBBBB....
Another Incredible video and more Top Shelf Content from Curated & John! Great video my friend and yes, times are changing. I remember when I had a friend of my Father's return from a trip to Germany many years ago. He brought me this wonderful Poster of a Porsche 930 Turbo Cabriolet with a Girl in a Wet Suit and a Surfboard. The Caption on the bottom of the Poster said "EINMALIG!" As much as I love the 930 Turbo Cab... I'm looking for the Girl from the Poster. Can you help me John? 😊👍 Thanks again for sharing your wonderful stories and I can't wait to see who's Collection you'll be sharing on your next episode. PS: Senja looks terrific, L.J. must be getting excited. All the Best to You and your Family always!
❤🙏🙏🙏❤❤🙏❤
I would post on Reddit, this really isn’t the place for that imo
I am part of this, 35 y/o finally got the okay to buy my dream/poster car. Picked up my first 2000 Viper GTS. Market since covid has exploded on Vipers. I would love to see you guys pull in a 1992 RT10 and do a quick drive video.
Not many of those ‘92’s still around. The owners wrapped them around poles too much.
Congratulations on purchasing your dream car!! It’s a feeling that can’t be described, and you find yourself just going to your garage to gaze at it from time to time.
The 90s Japanese sports car market for completely stock and low mileage examples has exploded during Covid. Twin Turbo Supras being the big stand out selling for over $150K at auction.
Other than variables like the semi conductor shortage the government’s push for banning the sale and production new gas powered cars in the near future is also drastically influencing the market by increasing the values of products that will soon never be produced unless a clean alternative fuel is introduced. So much is going on that is making the market bubble in regards to appreciated value of older sporty and luxury vehicles. Hell my personal vehicle a 2018 Subaru STi Type RA 271/500 is almost back to the price i bought it new and it has 25k miles on the odometer. I honestly don’t think this current market the way it’s going is remotely sustainable.
nailed that.
When any asset suffer this kind of rises, something very bad always happens next. I would keep my leverage as low as possible. That will help you to survive.
I need that long sleeve!
Hi Curated!
Everyone should always remember the value of rare stuff is determined by the amount someone is willing to pay for it.
Fewer cars and more people with money to spend= appreciation.
The right cars can become more valuable over time, but you are correct, buy your passion car!👍
The best part about a car as an investment is that you also get to enjoy it. So you gotta pick what you love! 100% agree.
I remember seeing SLS being around 100k 🙃
Agreed the market is shifting to newer vintage cars for millions of $$$. You hit the nail on the head when you said younger people are interested in newer cars and most successful of that group can afford the million $$$ investor cars and enjoy driving them.
great car no issue
My only complaint: not enough videos!
He's so thrilled the market is exploding, and its the reason he's putting this video out. Propagating waves that have already resulted from the past year. Whats annoying about this era in the car markets is that many non-collector, non enthusiasts are deciding to opt in, driving up prices for everybody that already loved these cars. When the markets are doing well like they are today, everybody will boast about what they're sitting on at the local cars and coffees, but in mid 2009 nobody gave supercar ownership a second thought. During times like that, only those that truly loved cars showed up to buy them, maintain them, and appreciate them. We are due for a serious market correction which I hope happens, because collecting certain cars is not something to be reserved for a select few, but a passion loved and shared by many.
This is sort of a ridiculous comment. None of the cars shown were ever particularly affordable. We're talking about cars that cost 300k in LEAN times! There are certainly interesting sports cars that can and are be enjoyed by the many... Porsche, Alfa, lotus, BMW, MINI, etc. Ferrari, Lamborghini and the like were never the everymans sports cars and thats fine.
I want to buy one of those curated long sleeves
The young people buying supercars now are likely analytical by nature. Success requires an analytical mind or wealth is squandered. These are not the young people counting on the Powerball for their retirement.
Yolo , bought a viper gts 1998
After Ferrari, Porsche and Lamborghini "murdered" manual transmission from latest models in order to have a "better appel" to american market, people went crazy on old cars.
I could have sworn I saw this guy in Miami driving a silver murcialago sv it was missing one of the three octagon engine covers
Good eye! The glass engine covers are only held on with adhesive, and one fell off..
1 year after you made this video, it’s now evident that high inflation is very real. The market is down, huge. You were right, these cars definitely were, and still are, a much better proposition than most other investments or assets right now. 👍
Yup. Thats why they are still selling like hot cakes. Not only a fun collector item, but a very solid alternative asset.
In the US it's PPP...
"W O R D !"
The third push is people see the END of gas powered ,Stick Shift cars. Into electric. They are looking for analog , cars.
Younger collectors come from "pop culture" iron man, need for speed, Grand tourismo,and RUclips , engine swap builds.
18 seconds ago it was posted and someone still got a comment in first lol
What about Marcello Gandini Maserati Quattroporte that is trying to run James Bond over in the new Bond movie? Incredibly rare machine. Going up or down?
Except cars I also learned sign language 😄
Great video and it'll be interesting to see how the market transitions with the younger generation over time, i.e., will classic American cars still pull the premium they do now due to boomers, or will Japanese and European overtake that market.
If I have the coin I would pick up a Ford GT, or if that is too much, a Gt350 and/or the focus RS. Ford (or any manufacturer for that matter) will never make cars like that anymore.
@@samwisee yeah, we tried to pick up a GT350 HEP last year and it was just slightly over sticker so we walked. Whoops.
One other factor that is driving used enthusiast cars value sky high - The fact that newer cars are just not all that desirable. Sure they're stupid fast and insanely capable, but I think this new wave of collectors and car enthusiasts (like me) by in large are not all that into the new stuff and gravitates to the older cars because of two factors:
a) New sports / super car's limits are so high they are not as excited to drive at non-stupid speed. Track days are fun but if you just have a few hours on the weekend and want to enjoy your local back roads or mountain pass on a Sunday morning, the newer cars are just not all that exciting to drive unless you're going triple digits. This leads to the second problem...
b) They're all kind of the same - Because all the new sports / exotic cars are so capable and so well sorted out, on almost all roads they'll all feel pretty much exactly the same (unless you're going stupid speed) - same turbocharged power, same insanely high handling only limited by mechanical grip of the tire, same fake crackle and bangs from the manufactured exhaust sound, same insanely precise (but a little dead) EPS rack, same ultra fast and smooth double-clutch or ZF gearbox.
I'm legitimately struggling to think what new sports or exotic cars I would want that is for sale today. None of the Ferraris or Lambos really interest me. The McLarens are a curiosity for me at this point more than anything. Other than the new Porsche GT cars, and maybe the current Mazda Miata or the new Lotus Emira, I can't really think of anything else I would want.
This is exactly how I feel. 80s analog sports cars are just a ton of fun! I'm more in the Alfa Romeo rather than Ferrari range. ;-)
Unnaturally inflated values are usually corrected. Once 1 car gets dumped at a loss then we'll see.
Porsche 993 is still way undervalued despite current auction prices!
People's investments have blown up . Everyone has money to spend right now
The only thing good about covid was the no traffic at least here and L.A and things sky rocketed even toy prices. Even though all probably never be able to afford a ferrari or anything like that. That same advice is what I tell people in the collectable market collect what you like. If it goes up in value cool if it does then thats cool too. Ive bought toys that are 20$ and sold them for 150$ I bought others were I could barely get retail out. Well said. You just gotta collect what you like.
100%...
Just bought a 7k mile factory 6MT F430. Last truly analog Ferrari (already have a low mile SCUD). Missed my chance to buy a 2011-2013 Turbo 6MT, LP560-2 6MT Gallardo cheap. Oh well - can’t buy them all.
Shame it’s not a real Ferrari which was one enzo had a hand in
Yours is a fiat with a Ferrari badge
@@chiefrocka8604 🤣🤣
@@chiefrocka8604 Frank Stephenson was the designer, Luca was the boss, Schumacher provided input on chasis development… I feel good about that pedigree of my 430s. Besides, who would pick a 348 over the F430!!?? LOL
I think this is largely a consequence of declining confidence in the purchasing power of fiat currencies... As in, people are thinking their dollars are going to be less and less useful sooner rather than later.
Need help putting a value to my 1 of 1 Mitsubishi. I have a REAL 1994 Mitsubishi GTO MR. A real MR. Twin turbo, all wheel drive with a factory 6 speed getrag transmission. Original OEM BBS partnership wheels. Only 500 ever made and only 7 in Danube blue Pearl. This is the only 1 in the United States and maybe the world left in Danube blue Pearl with oem bbs wheels. It has a clean Oregon title in hand. Help me out guys! what is this worth?
I wonder if modern day supercars, i.e post 2005, will ever attain the giddy heights in value as what the 60's, 70's and 80's supercars have or are achieving. It seems to me that car manufacturers have been manufacturing supercars for the masses and the exclusivity is not necessarily there. Sure, there are exceptions of very limited run cars which are as rare as rocking horse shit, but will they ever be as desirable as a Miura for instance?
I think they will because that era of cars (Ford GT, Carerra GT, etc) will be the last of its kind. Electric will take over. Maybe not entirely but it will definitely become the majority
My guess is you are sitting down with Jay Leno
Bank collapse has probably something to do with it.
From your lips to God's ears. I have an '05 red CGT and a solarbeam SLS Black Series.
I’ll need a tax accountant to sell my 1959 Porsche 356A.
Capital gains into an Opportunity Zone investment. Or just keep it and enjoy that beauty ☺️
I keep thinking its rude to not use a Supercar.
even my miata has gone up a couple of grand hehehehe
Highly doubt that.
Our videographer loves early 90's Honda Civics and a clean example has gone from $4,000 to 10,000 in the last couple years. Any car thats scarce has gone up. Regardless of whether its rare because low production numbers or because few clean examples remain.
@@StewartLucrative bought it for 3.6k now selling for over 6-7k so ill cal that a win cheers
@@danielthomas8507 have you personally sold yours for that much? Or you have seen OTHERS sell for that much?
@@WeAreCurated thanks for the reply John...yeah its true nothing rare about mx5''''s but people are seeing the early ones as cool little fun sportscars something that is becoming hard to find these days, i love the cars you sell and would love my dream car 288gto but i love my miata even if its only worth 2 bucks lol... love the content, rock on bro..cheers from new zealand.
Gen 1 Vipers?
Gen 2 gts and gen 5s are climbing fast
The carguys will get duiring the years less. The new people aren‘t so related to cars so ur generation who loves cars is deing out and the same the people who will buy them. Ok a f40 or a miura will keep his value but it will change in a few years. My opinion.
DDE
The car's aren't worth more. Your $ cap has increased. Rich guys know this and reevaluate their assets according to inflation. We printed Trillions
expect more "record" prices
With that said. a 512tr or some newer 997 991 RS is calling my name.
My son sold you this car. His name is Kevin Shows
Yall are just MARKET MANIPULATORS 😉
EV is coming. REMOVE THE VALUABLE ENGINE!... Come get me2 convert the body to EV. Save your engines for a museum
Can we leave the self-fulfilling “to the moon!” garbage on Reddit
It says no views lol.
Came to listen and then I remembered he does that ANNOYING hand-clap motion like 10 times a minute. I cannot stand people who are so mindless in their gesturing. You're not adding any emphasis when you make the same goddamn motion all day every day.
quit clapping your hands as you talk!