Calvinism exposed. The theology of Satan. KJV Bible Baptist preaching. Calvinist heresy election.
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2020
- The blasphemous false gospel of Calvinist doctrine is exposed by the true nature and love of God delineated in the Bible; and this video hopes to begin to show this through reasoning from the Holy Scriptures. Calvinist fundamentals are undoubtedly doctrines of devils.
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My eyes were opened to the lack of love with Calvinism when at the church we formerly belonged to, I was teaching 'Jesus Loves Me' to the children in the nursery. I was rebuked by the pastor since we don't know if they are of the elect. I'm still trying to recover from the damage that was done to my marriage and family by those years under that false system.
Hi Pamela.
I'm sad to hear this.
I have to say that I appreciate you sharing this testimony, as I believe that you can help others by it. Thanks very much. Have you a book or video at all concerning your testimony? I'm pleased you got in touch. I hope you are well beloved sister.
Calvinists don’t typically advertise that they are calvinists but it becomes evident soon enough in the unbiblical teaching
Thank you for sharing that experience. I've often discussed the obvious logical ends of Calvinist theology to this end, but seldom run into anyone who has seen it first hand. I guess that pastor is to be commended at least for his honest consistency, it's kind of rare. Calvinists do believe God does love the 'elect',(as they define them), but only the elect. However, unfortunately, they do not know who these 'elect' are as it relates to any specific person. Consequently they do not know if they are actually 'elected' to salvation for certain. In fact they do not actually know any particular person they can say with certainty that God loves... not even the man in the mirror, (or his kids). The tragic effect is that their doctrine has erected an impenetrable wall which quite literally separates them from the Love of God.
Top class points you make. I have wondered how a Calvinist prays; for, he takes to his knees, begins praising a God who, in his view, has (speaking statistically) chosen to damn many of his beloved family members when He could, alternatively, just save them. Surely a Calvinist, deep down, has a great resentment and natural abhorrence of the false God he has erected in his heart.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist He worships in fear that God may use His awesome 'sovereign' power as the Calvinist might if he possessed it.
He cannot truly worship God in love because he is not assured that God does not in fact actually 'hate' him, as they claim God hated Esau. If 'honest', he must be waiting to see if the other shoe to drops before he dies in the form of 'evanescent grace'.
There is one place in the Bible where Calvinism first raised its ugly head and that was in Genesis.
Let me quote from the father of all lies.
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” GENESIS 3: 3
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" Satan speaks through Calvinists the same way today!
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?"
For God so loved THE world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?"
This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants ALL people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for ALL people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?"
For I take no pleasure in ANYONE'S death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live! Ezekiel 18:32
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?"
Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22
I say this to satan and all his children of the anti-Gospel of Reformed Calvinism.
YES! YES! YES! YES! HE DID!
Deformed Calvinism FOOLISHNESS BASED ON MANS WISDOM WILL NOT STAND AGAINST IT!
REPENT and be BAPTIZED for the forgiveness of your sins and you will be saved.
Calvinism has no salvation in it, for it is just another cult pretending to be a branch of Christianity.
TRUTH IN LOVE
Indeed, Calvinism promotes the flesh.
What a wicked system it is. Founded upon pride and arrogance. Thanks for letting me know your thoughts.
In no way... the exact opposite. Calvinism promotes Christ and Him alone to His praise and glory.
@TheEnglishFundamentalist the exact opposite... it straps away all pride and arrogance and gives all glory and praise to God which is where it belongs. It is not a man centered theology such as yours, but rather focuses the center of its theology around Christ while opening the eyes of the sinner to see how amazing grace truly is. It is a shame you put so much effort into shaming strawmen instead of just preaching the word of God to all who are lost so that the work of the Holy Spirit can be done through you. But if you would rather strawman such a glorious biblical faith then worry not, because God has raised up His people who will share His gospel and understand that we are Christ's workmanship created in Him to do good works (including the sharing of His love and gospel). Have a blessed day.😊
This is such a rich teaching, it’s my second time around 🙂
I was reminded to comment to it when in Exodus 14.. “the Lord hardened Pharaohs heart.”
“Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This he said, signifying what death he should die.”
John 12:31-33 (side note the effect of this verse to this: Matthew 12:43-45)
Well now Jesus is drawing ALL men unto Himself.. ALL. (No hardening)
“In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)”
John 7:37-39
Yeah this is called GRACE, the mercy and unmerited goodness of God available to ALL. (Any man/person)
“We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain. (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, And in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)”
2 Corinthians 6:1-2
In the midst of dark times and end days, it really is the best of days in the last.. grace is available! What a time to live and receive Him and share Him with others!
“Now is the accepted time”
“But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.”
Hebrews 10:39
I think this is a wonderful summary. Calvinists may eagerly seek to redefine the word "all" to mean a certain few, but to those allowing Scripture to speak clearly and consistently, it is clear that your very helpful analysis is correct - and very welcome as a tool of instruction upon this channel. Thanks very much.
Much applause my friend. Simple and undeniable. I've met many a Calvinist and I have yet to meet one who demonstrates Godly love. They are like the God they worship and It's not the God who was manifested in flesh as Jesus.
Good evening. You make an important point that I haven't really explored - that of the impact upon a person tutored under a Calvinistic system. I suspect many adopt Calvinist ideals for a number of unstable and unbalanced reasons, and it may say much about an individual who seems to delight in the horrors of Calvinist election and predestination. But I am sure that many children/young adults trained under Calvinism may indeed develop a mentality and philosophical outlook that is fatalistic and bereft of any true meaning. Do you know my friend, one of the strongest testimonies against Calvinistic doctrines is the conscience of Man, which truly shrinks back in horror at the unreal and absurd (and blasphemous) suggestions of extremist election/predestination ideas. Why would God endow us with a conscience which abominates the alleged way in which He operates (if Calvinism were to be true?) Our inner constitution testifies loudly and finally - Calvinists are terribly wrong.
Thanks for your helpful words my friend.
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O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
'Ye' would not. 'Ye.'
Whosever will, Calvinists, whosever will.
Very important verse. I would be genuinely interested in what Calvinists may say about such verses. They seem farcical if Man could not actually turn unto God. Thanks for this example.
If you wish to refute Calvinism, this passage is a wrong choice and completely irrelevant tho. Take a look at the previous verses then try to understand what the Lord had meant to say in "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" and "ye would not." Are those pertain to all Israel? Or to religious Jewish leaders at the time.
"Doctrines of disgrace" it should be
Good morning. I believe Calvinistic doctrines are a diabolical disgrace, and share your disgust for such teaching.
Thank you for a very wonderful explanation and video.In my view, THIS is the problem with 'reformed'/Calvinist teaching at its core; those accepting its false premises as truth have fallen prey to the same lie Satan posed to Eve in the Garden. The effect of which is to foster a fundamental doubt about the goodness of God as it correlates to the very conscience God gave to all men. It describes the nature and motives of an all powerful creator which literally begs the question if God can ever truly be trusted.... bringing into doubt His character. Despite the fact that scripture declares God truly IS the personification of "Love"... not as an adjective, but a noun, they prefer to focus on his supreme power as His most significant attribute.
What a very profound and excellent summary. I'm very taken with these words of yours. They remind me that just the other day I was reading Ephesians and was convicted on a couple of occasions, particularly chapter 2 verses 4-9, that, in describing our perilous situation and the glorious remedy, emphasis is placed not on sovereignty or power, but rather,
"But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us" and so on. The basis is God's great love, and I am yet to find a Calvinist who can explain how God switches this love off in order to apparently not elect multitudes upon multitudes of souls. Because of God's nature, if He were in the business of electing people against their will, ALL would be saved! John 3:16, about God so loving the WORLD, must also be a conundrum to Calvinists, leading to their farcical reinterpretation of the word "world". Why they are so desperate to maintain this strange philosophy of Calvinism, I do not know. It is a horror to man's natural tendencies and conscience, God testifying through our natural constitution that it cannot be so.
You sum it up so beautifully my friend, and I learn so much from the contributors to this channel. In this video I desired to avoid theoretical theology and hit the heart and reality of the matter, and I'm so glad you see it this way too.
Thanks for your support.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist Your insight re; seeing one's brother in need and closing up the bowels of compassion and denying the Love of God within as a juxtaposition to God's nature vs. the God of Calvinism is quite good in my opinion. I've often mentioned this passage in the context of our responsibility to help others when we 'see' or become aware of someone in need which we can meet and not waiting for a brother to humble himself, 'hat in hand' asking for help. It obviously declares the nature of a loving God, but I did not make the connection in relation to it's application regarding the nature of the God which Calvinism portrays.
It seems to me that Calvinism's premises attract a certain personality type which aspires to intellectual superiority, (or those willing to hitch their star to those who do). The ideology offers the unique seduction of claiming a special knowledge of the metaphysical realm while simultaneously affording plausible deniability....because "God did it" to them and it was not the result of any effort on their part... and they just don't know why God didn't do it for you too, (bless your reprobated heart). All the while they can maintain in their 'unworthiness' how "humbled" they are by it all none the less. It's basically a perfect trap to seduce the fallen nature of prideful man. It's a shame so many are fallen prey to it.
I understand Calvinism quite well, but if I had a nickel for very time I was told "you don't understand Calvinism" I'd have bucket full of nickels.🤣
You speak so much wisdom. Great to have your input.
@@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT I greatly appreciate you insights and sharing in your posts R.L.
Calvinism is another gospel and should be avoided like a plague
I agree with you Christine. It is indeed a plague, a cancerous doctrinal system.
Great video! Calvinism is blasphemous. It takes the responsibility of responding to the gospel away from man and blames God for their eternal damnation.
Thanks Robert, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I appreciate your words of encouragement. Your summary of one sentence destroys Calvinistic philosophy, and it's a pleasure having it attached to the video.
I dread to think of how you live your life, exhibiting this "love" of God, Eucharist Angel.
Actually it doesn't. Calvinism in no way takes away the responsibility of man. It only establishes (as does the Bible) that God is sovereign even over salvation and that man is still a creature with an enslaved will (to sin) and morally accountable as such.
Just as we as humans who are made in the image of God, would not select some of our own children as unredeemable by our will, God does not select a single soul to be unredeemable. Satan rebelled not by the will of God but because God created him with a free will. The origin of evil is a mystery, but as of now we see through a glass darkly. God is love, pure love. There is no wickedness in God. God hates evil. God is not evil. Calvinist doctrine is heresy and truly deceptive just as Satan is truly deceptive.
Another top class summary adorning this video.
I have yet to meet a Calvinist that didn't push the drowning man under .
I believe Calvinistic ideals to be some of the darkest and most sinister principles ever published under the name of the church.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist" Doctrines of demons" comes to mind ,Thank you my brother.🕊️✝️🇿🇦👋
@@christdied4oursinsaccordin181 I appreciate your powerful words in this regard.
It all comes down to free-will-Best explained in the clearest book on this topic!-"Where Calvinism goes wrong!" by Brother Robert
Good afternoon Christian Music. Free will - denying our freedom of choice/ability to do so regarding our salvation has sinister repercussions regarding how free are we at all. We're you and I free in our will and choice to write these comments? Of course, we know the blessed answer. Thanks for getting in touch.
Amen, thank you for another great post my brother in Jesus. The peace offering of the old testament was and is a freewill offering.
Very pleased you valued this video my friend.
Dear Sir,I thank you again for another enlightening video.I briefly attended a Calvinist church but found the experience disturbing because their behaviour was so odd.After doing research on John Calvin I was appalled at his behaviour in Geneva as well.I thank God for my deliverance from Calvinism.Yours sincerely,David
Hi David. You raise a good point which I did not cover, and which highlights the DNA of romanism present in protestant groups; persecution of 'heretics'. The church of England conducted such a campaign themselves for decades against Baptists and non conformists.
David, I really appreciate your time in giving my videos a chance. Thanks.
They lie about the Reformation too. It surprised me that even MacArthur lied about it to cover up their vicious crimes against Christians.
The persecutory fruit of raw Calvinism reflects it's heartless and ruthless theology. Pleasure to have your thoughts here my friend.
I am rejoicing at the beautiful truth of God's Word. This video is to be commended. God Bless You EF!
Hi. I appreciate your kind words Doctrine Forensics.
I can’t believe I once listened to Calvinist preaching, it always sat a bit wrong with me though.
Hi Frank. I did too my friend. I am convinced that Calvinistic theory is a FALSE GOSPEL, not, as some may think, a legitimate variation of Christian thought. It is a vile system of religion.
I could take a piece of wood and use it for fire without issue. But I would be evil if I took the same piece of wood and gave to it sentient and intellectual capacity to recognize and feel the fire and then burn it. Such is the abomination of Calvin's doctrine of predestination.
Good evening. I apologise for the late reply. I like the way you have put this. Especially if the wood has not been given the opportunity of avoiding the fire too.
Amen. Thank you for the reminder of His love. I will be looking into John 3 and Romans 5 side by side.
December 11, 2020 I wrote this down reflecting upon freewill and election.
"Us not having freewill is like saying God has not predestined us, chosen us, His elect."
God sovereignly created us with freewill.
And just now after watching this video, I have a question:
According to Revelation 3:5, would it be safe to say everyone is written in the Lambs book of life initially?
This is a very important point that you raise, and I believe it may well demonstrate the fact that salvation is available to all, and those who refuse to come to Christ are, by their choice, excluded from eternal life. I enjoy your phrasing which combines sovereignty and free will. I am very bewildered at why Calvinists believe as they do, and although it upsets many, I firmly believe such ideas to be devilish and a false, blasphemous gospel. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I'm always interested in viewer/subscriber comments.
Ezra 7 : 13
13 I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own *freewill* to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.
Freewill, a beautiful thing, a precious trait; I'm grateful you bought this verse to light; such input from viewers improves the video. Thanks.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist
How can we be certain that the Bible teaches humans have freewill ?
@@jeffreyandrewwinters3719 Words. Clear words.
This is a strong argument-I hadn't thought of it before, and I appreciate the insight. I'm strongly inclined to think you're right. But I wonder if you have addressed the verses that speak quite explicitly about election from eternity, and "the elect"? I'm not saying you necessarily have to have a theory about these (or about divine foreknowledge) in order to reject Calvinism, but it might help.
I shall perhaps do a video on such at some point Larry - your feedback here is constructive and valuable as usual.
A word study on all instances where chosen or elect was used throughout the old testament and the new testament would be the best way of settling this.
If you did this you would find that chosen and elect have nothing to do with being chosen for salvation. I challenge you to study this for yourself.
Calvinists have their own unbiblical) definition of chosen that they bring to every text they encounter, ignoring the context of the verses.
@@cherylallis2458 thanks for the challenge. I’ll have another look.
The "ELECT" is the name for humans that have become adopted into Gods family through their repenting and being baptized.
The Angels are called His Elect Angels. Once again a name for a group of Holy Angels. (Nothing to do with salvation)
It is not a title for the selective, lottery salvation winners, of Calvinism.
God calls Israel His “elect” or “chosen” people. It has nothing to do with salvation or every Jew would be saved.
Chosen and election mean the same thing. It is always used for title of a group, or what service God has offered for you to do if you are willing.
It NEVER is about salvation or condemnation by God!
Salvation is available to ALL.
We simply, or not so simply, have to reach out and take hold of the life preserver held out in front of us.
TRUTH IN LOVE
I am going to suggest you view these teachers who are truly men of God and honest in their handling of the scriptures, you will be blessed by them. They are on youtube.
1. What love is this Dave Hunt
2. Soteriology 101 Dr Leighten Flowers
3. Mike Winger
4. David Pawson
5. Moriel TV
TRUTH IN LOVE
Watch Leighton Flowers, a former Calvinist. He has a channel called soteriology 101. He can answer your questions.
Thank you my brother in Christ. Great video. To God be the glory!
Hi. I am very encouraged by your words of interest and support. Thank you. I am especially pleased that you rightly attribute the glory and credit to God.
Thank you so much for pointing me to this video. I’ve enjoyed many of your videos and have downloaded them on my iPhone so that I can listen to them and study them in my car. Can you please give me your opinion about Lutheran theology? Would you see them as guilty of the Catholic Church’s view of the Eucharist due to their belief that Christ is actually present in the Lord’s Supper even though they disagree with the Catholic Church that it is a sacrifice of Christ?
Hi Charles. Your comment has greatly encouraged me. Thank you. I do struggle with the Lutheran view on the Eucharist, and it is sad that many accept Luther's teaching in other areas also - the man was undoubtedly brave and used greatly to break the Roman yoke, but with respect his system was not in line with the purity of reforms that many other martyrs before and after him were calling for; heroes who died who scarcely anyone knows of. But God knows. I find it sad that the reformation is called "The reformation", as if this one event over the span of decades was the only pure break from Rome. It was indeed a most emphatic blow to religious tyranny (though some reformers themselves set up persecutory systems instead), and a liberation from the Roman bishop; but reform and reformers had been working and dying for many centuries before (and after) who were more biblical in their position.
Great to hear from you. Thanks for your kind words.
Calvinist trust calvin than God.
Good afternoon. I conclude similar; for if they had never heard such doctrines expressed by men such as Calvin, I sincerely doubt one could arrive at such a position independently with a balanced and fair reading of scripture.
Calvinism is much like the Serpent Seed doctrine.
Good evening. I am not aware of such doctrine my friend, and will have a look. Thanks.
Good teaching. What do you say when they use "Jacob I have loved, Esau I have hated." ?
Hi. I believe the passage you reference, from Romans chapter 9, does not deal at all with the eternal destiny of Jacob and Esau, but their national destiny and purpose; similar with Pharaoh later in the chapter. The "vessels of wrath" in that chapter (verse 22) are "fitted to destruction", not chosen to eternal damnation. Verses 22-23 again deal with the election of DESTINY for those entering God's mercy, as Ephesians 1 and elsewhere, but such passages are inexcusably misinterpreted from a consistent scriptural whole by Calvinists, seemingly desperate to validate their ridiculous system.
Excellent analysis
I'm really pleased that you found it helpful John. Thanks for saying so.
I am no Calvinist; but I am curious to hear what you make of John 6:44:
“No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
Hi mate. We have to balance that with the fact that Jesus Christ invites us to "come" in other places, such as Matthew 11. In the previous chapter of John, chapter 5, we see in verse 40 that the people would "not come" unto Christ, that they might have life. In John 6.51 we see salvation open to "any man". In verse 54, "Whoso". Verse 64 shows foreknown once more as a foundation of verse 44, for in verse 65 this is equated to that saying. It's foreknowledge, not fore-ordination.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist yes, that's exactly what I have come to think: foreknowledge not pre-destination.
@@Here_For_Now Ephesians 1 is a classic explanation of this foreknowledge; as with the BLESSINGS being predestined for those who respond, NOT the salvation of souls being predestined. Great to hear from you.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist yes, I have come to understand that in Ephesians 1:10-11:
(10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ,
both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will), what he has predestined is a salvation plan for those in Christ, not, as you say, the individual salvation plans.
@@Here_For_Now Great talking to you about these vital issues.
To me, the most powerful verse about human free will, determining their ultimate destination, is John 3:19-20. This shows the preference for darkness. It implies a choice on the part of man. :)
I think this is an excellent point to be honest; I don't think I have covered such in my videos on Calvinistic theory. I appreciate your approach.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist with pleasure.
I already see calvinists claim total depravity and predestination on those 2 verses, but, what can we do about philosophical lenses if one refuses to reconsider anything?
Fellow brother, I am in a kind of transitory period, in my walk. I see it as a period where I need to increase my wisdom, through reading the Word, prayer and supplication. I am in the impression that I am towards the end if the testing of my faith (what do I know?). I am a 5 years old christian, but the Lord has allowed and given a ton of doctrinal understanding. I feel the urgency to hop on RUclips on my own new future channel (which is already created,named "our endtimes walk". No videos yet.), but at the same time, I also see that I must not rush, for the sake of wisdom acquisition. I need to patch a few holes. More specifically, it's about kindness towards weaker brothers (doctrinally).
I am in the very strong impression also, that the deuterocannon should be in the bible. It was present in the KJV 1611, and it's been removed later. It's a tough subject, but, IMO, the reform brought an evil, with calvinism, and another very subtle evil, by removing at the very least Sirach, Wisdom and Baruck.
Check out the channel "apocrypha apocalypse", by Gary Mitchuga. Very interesting and eye opening.
I appreciate your channel. In a way, I see it as a fight against compromises, which is certainly rooted in love of the truth.
Et donc, salutations mon ami.
Que Dieu te bénisse
Amen Brother preach it like it is!
Good morning. Thank you for your positive feedback. I find it remarkable that devout Calvinists DENY Calvinistic doctrine in the way that they LIVE - many Calvinists actually practice differently to their beliefs; they would help both children if two were drowning, not leaving one to drown to demonstrate some skewed idea of God's "sovereignty"; they would try and rescue someone from danger instead of fatalistically resigning their fate unto potential death, etc. Most Calvinists are hypocrites, who in reality DREAD the doctrines they profess to believe, and would refuse to practice such if they had to choose one family member for safety and another to perish. Man's conscience is testimony enough that God only choosing a small number for salvation when He could have chosen ALL is a slanderous abomination against our God. If God were in control of who would be saved, then all would be saved. But we have free will; and I am very pleased to hear from you, and to find another soul who not only rejects satanic Calvinistic doctrine, but who is also a KJV reader. Thanks for your encouragement.
Brother, you and I will have to agree to disagree.
Hi Hugh. I had no idea you were of this persuasion. I trust you know my video does not represent a disrespectful or malignant approach towards you personally. I am grateful for your gracious comment, especially in light of the contents of the video. As you know, I am always open to constructive criticism, so please do let loose; I shall not take it personally. Thanks for watching, and please keep in touch.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist thank you, brother. No personal insult taken.
The right perspective (understanding in truth) reveals the importance of FAITH (to ALL MEN) that they would believe.
1 Timothy 4.10 (KJV)
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, *who is the Saviour of all men,* specially of those that believe.
Also 1 John 2.2, Romans 5.15,18 & Titus 2.11
If we believe Jesus Christ has atoned our sins, we will begin living like it, walking uprightly.
Great message! I'm constantly wary of "over-theologizing", i.e. moving away from Scripture in order to try to explain things which are "difficult" - or impossible - to understand this side of eternity. I suspect we cannot really grasp or fully explain election/predestination/foreknowledge/a real call to faith, because God's point-of-view and ours are so different. We must believe God's Word whether or not we can yet understand it! Thanks for all your postings, bro - a real blessing!
Amen!
Some very important points you raise here.
So if god tortures a child its okay? If god removes everyones salvation to be funny thats "gods own decision and we must accept it" See how insane you sound?
Great teaching thank you
Hi Lilian. Thank you for this encouraging and positive feedback. I am used to a fair amount of criticism over this video, and the position I take regarding Calvinistic theory, so I appreciate your words and your taking the time to let me know. Kind regards to you.
Very well said and done! 👏
Good morning.
Thanks for your feedback. I appreciate it.
To: The English Fundamentalist. What do you about the teachings of JC Ryle or Dr. Martin Lloyd-Jones? I think they were calvinist, but they have some great, biblical teachings based on the books and videos I've seen and read.
Hi. That's what I call a good, genuine, important question. Thank you.
I loved reading J C Ryle. From what I gathered from his writings, he was hesitant in his position regarding adopting a Calvinist viewpoint, yet confessed the presence of portions of scripture that he wrestled with regarding election and predestination. In answer to your question, we must test all things by the Word of God; godly as these men may have been, they are not infallible, and though some teaching may be sound, it is my opinion, as this video summarises, that election and predestination are concerning the blessings that believers are granted by God, rather than their being converted by God's decision. (Those who believe in Him, He has predestined unto great blessing; indeed, those He FOREKNEW he has chosen unto precious blessings and mercies. )
So as the Bereans are commended to us by God for personal responsibility in testing claims by scripture, so we must do, even if teachers have a previous history of sound words.
Really appreciate your engagement here, thank you.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist Thank you, thank you, thank you, for your prompt, thorough and biblical response. Yes I too LOVE JC Ryle and I have many of his books as well as Dr. Martin Lloyd-Jones. I had purchased many of Chuck Missler's books too, but I came to learn some of his teachings were not totally biblical, so I don't subscribe to his material any longer. Yes we all MUST be Bereans and test everything based on the Word of God and the KJV is the only version I trust and read. God Bless You!!
I particularly enjoyed the compilation of J C Ryle tracts called "Practical Christianity".
I completely agree
I appreciate your time my friend. I have another video exploring this issue from another angle due out tomorrow. I am determined to assess these issues free from the shackles of academic language and approach, which Calvinists use to hide the wickedness of their system. Tomorrow's video is about Calvinism and Man's conscience. Thank for your support.
John 9 : 41
41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have *no* *sin* : but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
I suspect you are very well equipped to expose the false Calvinistic gospel, using the best weapon available; the Word of God. Thank you.
Can you expound in the point you were trying to make?
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist how would you answer romans 9?
Hi Gospel John. In my opinion Romans 9 deals with national, earthly, fleshly destiny - not the eternal destiny of one's soul.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist I agree. How verse 13 has been perverted by so called "scholars" to pertain to eternal Salvation is blasphemous. To interpret it that way not only goes against the context of the passage, but it contradicts what we read in John 3:16-18 (ie. "whosoever").
The context of Romans 9 is in reference to the promises made to to Jews (ie. national Israel). This is plainly evident.
Furthermore, "compassion" and "mercy" have been conflated with forgiveness of sin and Salvation. It's true that the language of Romans 9 is all-encompassing and inclusive, but twisting the text to mean that God chooses some to Salvation and some to damnation without the individual having a choice is outright heresy. Obviously the focus here is on the nation of Israel vs. the Gentile nations. The text reads in an inclusive manner because the idea of being God's people and ultimately being Saved are inseparable in purpose. But that doesn't mean that God's compassion, mercy and favor to some and not others here on Earth excludes anyone from the opportunity to be Saved by God's grace through faith in Jesus Christ. God is willing that ALL men be saved. God used Israel as a light to the world, then they rejected their Messiah and God went to the Gentiles. Likewise, we are now "salt and light" to the world. We read that God is no respecter of persons .. and so the system we live under is no longer about nationality, but "whosoever" believes on the Lord Jesus Christ.
Thank you!
2 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the God, who is the Savior of all men, specially of those that believe.
Very good message, against Calvinism wrong doctrine, thanks. 👍🙏😊
Stay away from calvinism.
Stay away from fanaticism of men.
Follow Jesus, become a Christian.
Amen!❤
How do you quote John 3:16 without going down a few more verses?
John 3:19-20 (YLT) 19 `And this is the judgment, that the light hath come to the world, and men did love the darkness rather than the light, for their works were evil; 20 for every one who is doing wicked things hateth the light, and doth not come unto the light, that his works may not be detected;
Praise Jesus,
Michael Idarecis
Never meant a Calvinist who did not think that they themselves and coincidentally enough their families, were not part of the chosen, the elect.
Calvinism defined: when piety turns to perversion.
Thank you.
Good preaching Calvinism is poison
I am thankful to find another soul who sees Calvinism for what it is; and I thank you for your feedback. Kind regards to you.
Excellent video.
I appreciate your kindness once again Edwin. The Calvinism issue is close to my heart; I am very passionate about it.
The conversion of Paul is rich in teaching regarding the will of man, and the will of Almighty God. Our pathetic will is depraved.
What is Predestination? Well it goes like this.
Predestination example 1: Its kind of like this. A man’s wife is finally pregnant and the couple are over joyed. I hope it is a boy the man said and I hope he will be interested in becoming an electrician like me. I also hope he goes into the trade and if he does, I plan for him to take over the family business some day! But I know that these plans that I have made for him, before one of his days of life begin will be entirely up to my son. I cannot force him, I cannot put a gun to his head, I can only encourage and guide him and hope. In other word’s the man has predestined a plan for his son, He has chosen a plan for his son. He has elected to give all this to his son if he so desires it!
Outcome 1 The baby is born and it is a boy. He is interested in his fathers work and goes to electrical trade school, but drops out and becomes a lawyer instead.
Outcome 2 He drops out of school becomes a bum, a drunk or a murderer etc.
Outcome 3 The son follows his fathers predestinated plan, through trade school and takes over his father’s business. The fathers predestined plans for his son will happen, or will not happen, according to the choices the son makes.
Its the same with mankind. There is a master plan given to every human being to know God, reach salvation and eternity in Heaven.
But to follow or reject the plan is the choice given to every individual.
This is the "Good News Gospel" that the Angels proclaimed when the Messiah was born.
Satan has attacked that message from the beginning, twisting it into what is now known as Calvinism or the doctrine of election.
Predestination example 2:
Grandma saves and saves to buy her granddaughter a plane ticket to France. She has been saving for many years and the day finally arrived and she gave her granddaughter her special gift.
The granddaughter goes to the airport and asks the attendant which plane to get on. The attendant says, what is your destination on your ticket? He reads the ticket which says “Destination France.”
He also said that flight 446 is a modern jet that was especially built and destined by the airline to fly exclusively to France for its entire service life. So, this aircraft has been predestined to fly to a predestined location, France.
The girl gets on the plane and is now destined to travel to France on the predestined plane, that has been predestined by its designers, to reach its predestined, destination!
This girl will arrive at her predestined trip that her grandmother predestined years before, as long as she goes to the airport, gets on the right plane and stays on the plane!
All this took place by the choices the granddaughter made.
Predestination example 3: "The man on an island." Imagine a man has been taken to a desolate island with everything he needs to survive and given only a Bible to occupy his time. This man has no preconceived idea about religion so everything he will learn over the next 10 years he will get directly from the Bible and Gods leading.
The man accepts God’s plan of salvation and what he has learned from the Bible. He repents and is born again.
The Holy Spirit is now counselling the man from the inside. He studies intensely for the 10 years growing in his faith and walking closer and closer with God daily.
After 10 years he comes back to the mainland world and decides he needs to fellowship with other Christians as the Bible says he should.
The man approaches a number of different churches and looks through the windows from the outside and says to himself “What are they doing in there what are they saying about God?
How do you think this man will compare what he knows to be true, from what he sees going on in the mainline churches today?
Do you think he will find what the mainline denominations are teaching will be in harmony to what this true follower of Jesus Christ has learned?
You know it won’t be!
It then occurred to me that I am that man.
I became a Christian in the winter of 1980 and didn’t go to any church for 10 years.
I studied on my own directly from the Bible.
I did go to some Bible studies, but basically learned directly by Gods leading.
TRUTH IN LOVE
Mankind has a role, responsibility, choice and decision in our salvation; that is to accept and remain in Jesus as our Savior. John 6:29
Good morning.
Mankind does indeed have a choice, well said. Can I ask, what do you mean by our having a decision to "remain" in Jesus? Is it your opinion that one might lose his salvation in Christ should bad works be practiced?
Thanks very much for giving my video a chance.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist Good morning!
Jesus said remain in me and I will remain in you. John 15:4.
We cannot lose our salvation like we can lose our car keys. But we can decide to forsake or stop loving Christ, and in a sense we do so each time we sin.
But if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9.
Just as in a human marriage, we can fall out of fellowship with each other, but 1/2 the time we decide to stop loving the person and no longer remain in relationship.
When we choose to stop reconciling with Christ we divorce the relationship.
As unimaginable as it may be for you and I to ever forsake Christ permanently, some who have come to know Him have. Hebrews:6.
Thanks for your explanation.
@@user-yv1fh3fc8y If by grace you are saved unto eternal life then, how is it you become unsaved by any action whatsoever? The Lord said if we fail in our walk he will not suffer His faithfulness to fail. Psalm 91. He also said no one can pluck them out of my hand. The Lord said he who beleives in him shall have eternal life. You say you can come to believe and not have eternal life. Now who should I believe? God or you?
@@lack76 the grace of God is His plan of salvation through the efficacious sacrifice of His Son for the forgiveness of our sin.
Grace is not as much the power of God as it is a loving plan of God. If your actions are outside of his plan of grace; for instance trusting that you can live like hell and be unrepentant, or thinking that you are save because your brother is a priest, you are not living in God’s plan.
With that said, grace is the gracious plan of God’s salvation of man.
Excellent video
Thanks K M. I tried to analyse the issue from the perspective of reality rather than theoretical theology or academic dryness. .
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist Very good
Definitely from the mouth and hand of one RT Kendall..and the foul combination he calls Word and Spirit.
i find it funny that even KJV only would say the opposite of this
Good morning. Quite possibly they may. If only they would read the Bible.
I'm KJV only and totally agree with this brother. Calvinism is a doctrine of demons straight out of the pit of Hell. Paul Washer, John MC Arthur and the men who preach that trash need to be saved. It's nothing but works based salvation.
i mean it goes completely against Scripture but limited atonement also goes against logic. how can an omnipotent and infinite God produce a limited atonement?? God's attributes are seen in His actions
I love the way you have put that. I think I learn more from my viewer comments than they do from my videos. Really well put friend.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist thank you, nice to converse with you. youtube needs more videos preaching against reformed theology. what a blasphemy against the work that Jesus Christ did.
im actually shopping for a Wycliffe Bible but not sure what publishing company to go with, same with the Geneva Bible. any suggestions? have you studied them? how about the Youngs Literal Translation?
@@ryanjennens1481 The Young's I find too literal for easy reading, but it's good for textual study if you don't know the original languages. There is a Wycliffe 1388 edition with modern spelling and punctuation edited by Bill Cooper (but I haven't yet bought one!) - see The Wycliffe New Testament 1388: An Edition in Modern Spelling with an Introduction, the Original Prologues and the Epistle to the Laodiceans
In my studies I have concluded that the word of God in English is in the King James Version. I used to use the Young's literal translation a lot, but the king James version is the only version which fulfils God's requirements for an accurate translation of His Word. I cannot commend the KJV enough to the saints. Good question you raise.
@@MrCjsb thank you for chiming in, i will be looking that up today and probably ordering! i will be getting a copy of YLT at some point too. thanks again!
Martin Luther is another heretic that is loved by many. He preached a gospel that denies God from having righteous fruit from the saints. He hated the book of Hebrews and James and wanted to remove them because they teach "faith without works is dead." He believed in faith alone so he could proclaim he is saved and live like a sinful dog. And even today everyone is influenced by the reformers and believes in once saved always saved/ grace abusing. Because of men like Calvin and Luther we see such apostasy today. That's why we have to listen to the Holy Spirit and read the Bible plainly and not listen to evil men who wrest the scriptures. People think that the reformers saved people from the satanic catholic rule, but in reality all they did was create more false doctrines.
Hi Matthew. In my opinion you make some really important points, but I would disagree regarding salvation, and this is a point of the highest importance - we are indeed saved by faith, and our salvation is outside of the realm of works, deeds, merits; yet alongside this God teaches us not to abuse our freedom, and we will be chastised by His hand if we try and live loosely because we are saved once for all. Living sinfully after salvation will not hazard one's righteousness in Christ, but it will incur the chastening of the Lord.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist I understand your viewpoint but the Bible teaches otherwise. The Bible teaches it as a covenant though which involves two parties. God does his part, but you must do yours.... we are saved by grace but we keep that grace by righteousness, repentance, obeying, keeping the commandments of Jesus, etc. It we do not, we take the grace of God in vain. Once saved always saved and faith alone is a lie. Faith is only justified by works and being faithful. We must also endure to the end. Consider these verses friend!
"And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him" (Hebrews 5:9)
"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (Hebrews 10:26-3)
“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” (Luke 13:5)
" Quench not the Spirit." 1 (Thessalonians 5:19-25) to quench means to put out. People have this idea that the Holy Spirit can't leave someone when it can due to idolatry. Apostasy comes from the word which means divorce. Basically God divorcing someone because they played the harlot.
The entire chapter of Matthew 25 warns about faith being justified by works.
The Reformed viewpoint is a excuse for sin, idolatry, worldliness, and a carnal man's security blanket.
"Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall."
(1 cor 10:12)
Not every one that saith unto me, "Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 7 21)
There are many verses that warn of falling away and having to endure. Plus God spits out the lukewarm. Also this is my favorite verses that correlates to now:
"He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Rev 21: 7-8)
Most people in the church system are going to hell for idolatry, sorcery, worldliness, willfully sinning, caving in and taking the mark of the beast, etc. That's why we have to put on the full armor of God and endure.
Likewise it sounds like you still believe in preservation of the saints which Calvin taught. Here is a good quote on that :
"Calvinists, who deny that salvation can ever be lost, reason on the subject in a marvelous way. They tell us, that no virgin’s lamp can go out; no promising harvest be choked with thorns; no branch in Christ can ever be cut off from unfruitfulness; no pardon can ever be forfeited, and no name blotted out of God’s book! They insist that no salt can ever lose its savor; nobody can ever “receive the grace of God in vain”; “bury his talents”; “neglect such great salvation”; trifle away “a day of grace”; “look back” after putting his hand to the gospel plow. Nobody can “grieve the Spirit” till He is “quenched,” and strives no more, nor “deny the Lord that bought them”; nor “bring upon themselves swift destruction.” Nobody, or body of believers, can ever get so lukewarm that Jesus will spew them out of His mouth. They use reams of paper to argue that if one ever got lost he was never found. John 17:12; that if one falls, he never stood. Rom. 11:16-22 and Heb. 6:4-6; if one was ever “cast forth,” he was never in, and “if one ever withered,” he was never green. John 15:1-6; and that “if any man draws back,” it proves that he never had anything to draw back from. Heb. 10:38,39; that if one ever “falls away into spiritual darkness,” he was never enlightened. Heb 6:4-6; that if you “again get entangled in the pollutions of the world,” it shows that you never escaped. 2 Pet 2:20; that if you “put salvation away” you never had it to put away, and if you make shipwreck of faith, there was no ship of faith there!! In short they say: If you get it, you can’t lose it; and if you lose it you never had it. May God save us from accepting a doctrine, that must be defended by such fallacious reasoning!”
~ John Wesley
Hitler followed Luther's teaching to the letter.
Luther inspired Hitler on how to handle Jews.
“Burn their synagogues. Forbid them all that I have mentioned above. Force them to work and treat them with every kind of severity, as Moses did in the desert and slew three thousand… If that is no use, we must drive them away like mad dogs, in order that we may not be partakers of their abominable blasphemy and of all their vices, and in order that we may not deserve the anger of God and be damned with them. I have done my duty. Let everyone see how he does his. I am excused.” (About the Jews and Their Lies,’ quoted by O’Hare, in ‘The Facts About Luther, TAN Books, 1987, p. 290.)
“ If I had to baptize a Jew, I would take him to the bridge of the Elbe, hang a stone round his neck and push him over with the words I baptize thee in the name of Abraham” (Grisar, “Luther”, Vol. V. pg. 413.)
“The Jews deserve to be hanged on gallows seven times higher than ordinary thieves.”(Weimar, Vol. 53, Pg. 502.)
Luther was a Calvinist before Calvin.
Luther teaches: “…with regard to God, and in all that bears on salvation or damnation, (man) has no ‘free-will’, but is a captive, prisoner and bond slave, either to the will of God, or to the will of Satan.”
(From the essay, ‘Bondage of the Will,’ ‘Martin Luther: Selections From His Writings, ed. by Dillenberger, Anchor Books, 1962 p. 190.)
“…we do everything of necessity and nothing by ‘free-will’; for the power of ‘free-will’ is nil…” (Ibid., p. 188.)
“Man is like a horse. Does God leap into the saddle? The horse is obedient and accommodates itself to every movement of the rider and goes whither he wills it. Does God throw down the reins? Then Satan leaps upon the back of the animal, which bends, goes and submits to the spurs and caprices of its new rider… Therefore, necessity, not free will, is the controlling principle of our conduct. God is the author of what is evil as well as of what is good, and, as He bestows happiness on those who merit it not, so also does He damn others who deserve not their fate.”
(‘De Servo Arbitrio’, 7, 113 seq., quoted by O’Hare, in ‘The Facts About Luther, TAN Books, 1987, pp. 266-267.)
“His (Judas) will was the work of God; God by His almighty power moved his will as He does all that is in this world.”
(De servo Arbitrio, against man’s free will.)
That is why I go after Cults like this because they are hindering souls looking for God. They cripple those who are true baby Christians. They slander the work of the cross and refuse to come into salvation themselves.
TRUTH IN LOVE
JESUS John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
To anyone reading this, go to these men and you will find the real truth! This site promotes only the Calvinist heresy.
Mike Winger
David Pawson
Dave Hunt what love is this
Soteriology 101 Dr Flowers
They are trustworthy in their teaching.
The most dangerous false teachers today in order are.
John MacArthur
John Piper
R.C.Sproul
Paul Washer
James White
Voddie Baucham
Steven Lawson
Remember this! To associate with heretics is to endorse heresy. You would be guilty by association.
Did God really say
real "Jesus Loves me song" for the elect, as it should be.
"Jesus loves me, this I know.
As for you, I don't think so.
Only some to Him belong. We are right and you are wrong.
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
But I hope this isn't effervescent grace that I'm walking in and instead I'm actually deceived and one of the reprobates that He created to burn as a candle for His glory in Hell forever."
TRUTH IN LOVE
Titus 2:11
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Now i know the calvanist will say this is talking about the elect but if we use the way Isaiah said to read the bible we will see this is not the case.
Isaiah 28:10
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Not exegesis and all these man made terms it is line upon line here a little there a little which means you use other scriptures to understand them .
So now it tells us the grace of god that bringeth salvation had appeared to all men lets figure out who these men are as it must show us somewhere these all men are seeing salvation.
Turn to Luke 3:6
All flesh shall see the salvation of God
Using line upon line we can see the all.men Paul is speaking of is all flesh and all flesh is always used as a term for all humans all people. You will also notice it is chapter 3 verse 6 the same as Genesis when the fall happened because the Word of God is supernatural. So in Genesis 3:6 all flesh becomes fallen so in Luke 3:6 the grace that bringeth salvation comes to all flesh and has appeared to all men.
God Bless You Brother in Christ
Good morning Eric. I wholehearted agree my friend; and I can't believe there are men out there who proudly teach Calvinistic principles, many of them receiving a wage for doing so. Thank you for taking the time to write this, I appreciate it.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist it seems many that get deceived into these false doctrines dont read the King James the living Word of God.
>>>>>>>>Matthew 4:4+
>>>>>>>>>>>>Luke 4:4+
>>>>Deuteronomy. 8:3
>>>>>>>>>>>> =16:11King James
It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
God Bless Brother
Good explanation.
Hi Grady. Thank you. My hope was to approach this issue from a perspective of reality rather than theology/theory/philosophy, appealing to our God-given conscience in the matter.
The dreadful doctrine of Limited Atonement also admits of the heretical idea that God punished God on the Cross. That implies Our Lord and Saviour was driven from the Holy Trinity. It also has the Vile idea that the Cross is there to save daring worms. No, the sacrifice of Christ Pleased God the Father infinitely more than sin ever displeased Him.
Verses: John 3:27 / 1 Cor. 15:22 / 1 John 3:12 / Gal.1:15-16 / Gal. 3:25 / Rev.17:8 Matt.13:24-43 notice verse # 38. Question: what did Lazarus do on HIS part to come back to life, after he was dead ?? Also after John 3:16 comes John 3: 27, please read that ! Also read Acts 16:14 God opened Her 💓 heart, she did not open her heart to God. My you find Peace brother.
Hi Lynn. Can I ask sincerely, why do you desire this wicked Calvinistic teaching? I'm trying to understand why people desire it so much. (Thanks for your polite and kindly manner.)
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist Thank you for your response, I didn't get this teaching from Calvin, look what Paul said in Romans 9:13 Quoting the old testament. God said: Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. Satan's seed & God's seed, two different blood lines. 1 John 3:12 is saying the same thing, just like 1 John 3:10. God's seed, The Devil's seed. See MATTHEW 13:10-11 it is what God Grants, The clay can tell the Potter Nothing !!!!
Hi Lynn. Romans 9. Friend, is Romans 9 concerning eternal salvation of souls? Or predestined national destinies?
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist very good question, ! No it was not for the establishment of a Nation. Read John Chapter 8, ok ? Would you agree that if Jesus said it, then we are on solid ground ? They said our Father is Abraham, Jesus said NO, your FATHER is the 😈 Devil, & you even want to kill Me ! God's chosen people are through David to Jesus, & the Christians. Read The book of Galatians, not seeds, but the Seed that is Jesus Christ. That is why King David said let their table become a snare to them.
I think, with respect, that you are mixed up concerning this matter, ignoring plain and certain principles in favour of isolated interpretive distortion. Can I ask how you see John 3:16, and who the "world" is? Thanks for your time.
Those God predestined for salvation, the elect, were and are those who would come to Christ. John told us that before the foundation of the world was God, and the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Thus we know who the elect were and are. They are those who come to Christ. Christ was and is God's means to reconcile His people to Himself. Let us also recognize the Justice of God. That those who reject Christ are damned to destruction.
The flaw is that The Pot fitted for destruction in Romans 9 tells us that those that are broken are not saved. The potter destroys them. The darnel/tares are collected and burned. This is not the love everyone doctrine you are saying. Cain is not going to be saved. John 8 says the Jews had "NO TRUTH IN THEM".
Praise Jesus,
Michael Idarecis
Thank you. Good points, and I agree with you Brother.
Calvinists read everything except the bible but this may change since Macarthur has produced his own new moneymaking version of the bible LSB, "Legacy Standard Bible".
No free will? Joshua said choose this day whom ye will serve; Jesus says believe, come, enter in, knock, eat, drink, see, hear, touch, confess, seek, go, teach etc etc etc. He sent out two by two, why? If calvinism's unconditional election is true, there's no point in sharing the gospel or even of preaching. Irresistible grace? Let's kill that one! Acts 7:51 KJV - Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do ALWAYS resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye".
Calvinism has done to God's tulip as the sodomites have done to the rainbow.
Powerful and blessed summary, with a very strong last line - thanks very much.
Spot on brother. We went to a Reformed church for four years beucase we respected the Pastor. Not one of them n that time did ( though Scripture said out do each other in hospitality ) any of them ever invited us back to their homes. We left the church and went to another with the first five weeks we had four invites. We did not percieve any real difference in their characters..dispite eletest views. to most people in that in this church Reformed church. In many places where there has been Hyper Calvinism there is a hitory of social injustice. South Africa (apartheid) Hyper C/The deep US South..slavery Hyper C/Northern Ireland Hyper C. But the worst is there they reduce the book of Revelation to book of symbols (Idelaist view) dispite the warning of Revelation to do not add to not subract.. Do you think Refomed Pastors will be held accountable for this?? But you could not state that to be Calvinist will make you a non beleiver? If history be our guide Calvine ran a police state and did lost of awful things.
Pastors holding these blasphemous and wicked views are indeed accountable before the Lord. I believe it's possible to be caught up in this deception and be a believer, but I also believe that God will lead such a person into the truth. As He says in His Word. The fundamentals of Calvinism constitute a false gospel, and it's being preached is an abomination.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist What exactly makes Calvinism false, What about Calvinist websites like Carm.org by Matt Slick that claim Calvinism is Biblical
Hi Jeffrey.
Calvinistic theology is repelled by man's conscience as an intolerable scenario; much like the natural instincts against slaying ones child, or consuming dung. Calvinism is born of proud theological academics, not reality. It doesn't work in the real world, and is evidently unscriptural.
I appreciate your kind and respectful tone. I appreciate it a lot. Thank you.
Many are called, few come.
There is no getting away from the fact that God created the world, knowing that millions of men and women would suffer, and suffer Damnation. So even a new Armenians, if that’s what you are have to cope with that. We just have to bow to the sovereignty of God in salvation. God only had to put his shoulder to the door of Eden, and not let Satan in. I understand that Armenians want to be more loving than the God of the Bible but he is the Potter and we are the Clay. The love of God Is expressed on the cross where no man has greater love than this; that he laid down his life for his friends.
Good analogy about the calvinist and the drowning man in his view.
Thanks. I used it to try and show how even sinful man in his practice does not stoop to the callous practice of withholding mercy and compassion on souls in need of salvation, as Calvinists claim of God in His dealings with man's eternal state. I take your comment to heart. Thanks.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist Amen, I pray the Holy Spirit gives you more of these powerful analogies/parables to be if use in your teachings.
It is my fervent prayer. Your prayers are not in vain. And your comments enhance this channel.
We are not drowning, we are dead until & unless the Lord first grants life. And none of us deserves it.
@@hughmccann919 A drowning person has no hope for life unless the Lord shows his mercy and we take his hand. Take care.
wolves in sheeps clothing, you will know them by the bad fruit they bear
Really appreciate your input Beanmachine91. I sense your passion in the matter.
Jesus died in vain if Calvinism is true.
Good afternoon Chris. I think Calvinistic theory does indeed mock and trample upon the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. I appreciate your engagement.
I gotta be honest I can’t deny the fact that there is an election and there are only the elect who are saved. Romans 9.
Hi. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Romans 9 is concerning the election of God unto certain purposes, but not individual election of souls unto an eternal destiny. There is a big difference which Calvinists seem to miss sadly. At the start of Romans 9 we see Paul's love and desire for all - he would die if it meant they could be saved - this prelude to the chapter sets the scene; how can man have such love (see 1John 3 also) yet God be cold and hard towards souls? Election regarding our salvation is seen in 2Thessalonians chapter 2 - God has chosen us ( who believe and respond to the truth) unto salvation - those who respond to Him are chosen to certain blessings, which is what Ephesians 1 is about, which again Calvinists misread.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist we run into the same issue when God opens the heart of Lydia to believe the Gospel in Acts. God had to open her heart for her to believe (she was one of the elect). God grants repentance to people also. So if it’s God in control of opening hearts and granting repentance, doesn’t this also confirm Calvinism?
Hi. Who did God grant repentance unto? And Lydia was a worshipper of God - she had that believing and responsive foundation - she was not a case of God moving someone against their will.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist “When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, “Well then, God has also granted to the Gentiles the repentance that leads to life.””
Acts 11:18 NASB2020
“with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,”
2 Timothy 2:25 NASB2020
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist I also want to add that we cannot ignore that God had to open Lydia’s heart to receive the truth of the Gospel. Why would this be mentioned in the Bible if it wasn’t a truth that God wanted us to learn? Even though she worshipped God, she was still unable to understand unless God opened her heart. God must open the heart of every person who hears the Gospel (who is one of the elect) which is why many who hear don’t believe, not because they don’t want to but perhaps they aren’t one of the elect and God never opens their heart or grants them biblical repentance which leads to salvation. I’ve studied both sides for a while now and I just can’t seem to get away from the fact that God’s sovereign will is at hand during the process of one’s salvation. God had to draw everyone being saved to Himself first. We can’t be saved until God draws us to Himself by His power.
“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.”
John 6:44 NASB2020
This confirms that God is fully in control of who will and who won’t be saved. No one can come to Jesus without the drawing of God! That’s a huge deal! No?
If you pray for a sick person to be positively healed, rather than for God to make it possible for them to be healed, then you are already more Calvinist that you may know.
Paul clearly teaches Col 3:10 KJV And have put on the *new man* , which is renewed in knowledge after *the image* of *him* that *created* HIM:
That is, the "new man" was created after the image of Jesus Christ glorified body, which Paul says in 1 Cor 15 is a "heavenly man".
This "new man" was predestined from the before the foundation of the world (ephesians 1:4 kjv According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:)(Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.
2Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.), not just the purpose of his will, but the "new man" is of the purpose of his will from the before the foundation of the world.
Notice that Hebrews says that Jesus came in the likeness of the Seed of Abraham, that is the "likeness of sinful flesh" was crucified and sin was condemned in the flesh of Jesus Christ and the "heavenly man" raised. Sowed in corruption, raised in incorruption".
Eph 2:10 King James Bible
For we are his workmanship, *created in Christ Jesus* (who is from before the foundation of the world, from everlasting) unto good works, which God hath before *ordained* that we should walk in them.
We are elect, the "new man" IN Christ, who was predestined and chosen from before the foundation of the world. Our "new man" is foreordained, "in Christ" from before the foundation of the world.
So how does one become a new man and when did this new man become an old man in Adam if he was a new man before the foundation of the world?
Elected for what?
Can you explain the difference between the spirit of adoption and the adoption?
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Jesus took on the "Seed of Abraham" = old man and raised the new man, since Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh, but was raised the second Adam. Jesus Christ was with the Father before the world began, but in these last days was manifested, that is God manifested in the "flesh". The "flesh" is the "seed of Abraham" (Hebrews 2:16. “For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham." So, there is your "election" since the gospel was promised in Genesis 3, Genesis 3:15 ... “And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Paul says the mystery of the gospel was hid from the foundations of the earth, and Rev. 13. [8] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Paul says 2 Timothy 1:9 KJV “Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own *purpose and grace* , which was given us *in Christ Jesus* *before the world began* ,”
So "election" refers to God's purpose in Christ which was given "us" who believe (the inheritance, the new man, new heaven, new earth, new Jerusalem, forgiveness of sins, etc...) from before the world began.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did *foreknow* , he also did predestinate to be conformed to the *image of his Son*
(1 Cor 15:44 KJV There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47The first man is of the earth, earthy: the *second man is the Lord* from heaven. 48As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.)
Everything happens in Christ Jesus. So by Christ Jesus was everything made, that would include the Old Adam. He is the firstborn. When Christ Jesus took on the "seed of Abraham" he took on human flesh and blood and was nailed to the cross, "condemning" sin "in the flesh" of his body. What body? The Old Adam, flesh and blood.
Now when Jesus Christ was raised by the power of the "eternal Spirit" he was raised incorruptible, the glorified body (1 Cor 15, the heavenly man). It is this heavenly man which is the "new man" that Paul speaks of, and is the "elect". Romans 9 speaks of the "vessels of wrath" and "vessels of Mercy". The Old Adam is the vessel of wrath, and the Heavenly Man (New Adam) is the "vessel of Mercy", the "predestinated", and "chosen elect".
A person is born again (=new man) when they believe on Jesus Christ, and the Gospel. This is the inheritance. All this is done in Christ Jesus who "before Abraham was, I AM"
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits *of the Spirit* , even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for *the adoption* , to wit, the *redemption of our body* . (the redemption of our body = the heavenly tabernacle 2 cor 5)
The Resurrection (the Second Adam=glorified body) is by the "eternal Spirit" or by the operation of God by the Spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be *born again* .
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is *born of the Spirit* .
I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to with your question of the difference between adoption and the spirit of adoption. Perhaps you could explain that more.
I am definitely not a Calvinist, but I like how you took a couple of scriptures and twisted them to say what you wanted. You are basically saying that God does not know who is going to choose to be saved, like he is sitting on pins and needles just wondering what’s going to happen. Yes, God sent his only begotten son that who so ever believes in him should have everlasting life but God also knows not everyone is going to believe in him, hence the wide path to hell. I guess you missed “do not cast your pearls before swine“ what would you do about that one?.. most people who travel down this path, like you seem to, run into the idea of letting most people into heaven because of “gods love“, that is a dangerous line of thought. Justin peters is showing Real heresies and real blasphemies, he is doing his job of warning people against falling for these satanic twisting of scriptures to suit their own lifestyles.
Adam, I salute your military service, but not your understanding of my position. I'm afraid you've completely misunderstood me. Our spiritual blessings are based upon God's foreknowledge, and I do not believe I ever said in the video that God doesn't know what's going to happen. I believe our position is one which combines God's foreknowledge, Providence, and our free will. The video was simply laid out, I'm not sure what your problem is with my position. Pearls before swine - I don't know how you are applying this to the subject at hand. No Calvinist has helped me so far regarding the definition of "world" in John 3:16 - if you are willing, please help me. It's not a trick question. God loves the world - not an elect few within it. The biblical definition of "world" and God's "love" powerfully dictate that salvation is for all if they are willing. Thanks for your time Adam.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist 😗😗😗 wehehelll….. to say that I jumped the gun would be an understatement! I apologize for the snarky comment! I did misunderstand what you were saying in the video, not because the video was misleading but because I misunderstood Calvinism. I did not realize that they basically believe that God created people to not choose him and to go to hell. Sorry it took so long to reply to this comment, but it took me a while to realize I was mistaken. I have been pouring over MacArthur and RC Sproul videos. They are both excellent expositors of scripture but I kept noticing them skipping over certain sections or explaining certain sections by assuming a false dichotomy. Thanks for being patient with me😂😂😂 Sorry I was a smart Alec and jumped the gun!
@@Nogovernmentneeded No problem at all brother. Good to hear from you again.
It’s smuggled in by Augustine - see Ken Wilson
Hi Lee. Do you mean to say that Calvinistic doctrine emerged under the ministry of Augustine? Thanks.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist Calvin said his entire theology was based on Augustine. Ken Wilson shows that Augustine smuggled in wrong ideas from before he was a Christian and this polluted his theology. Also we have a wrong idea about Pelagius, as Ali bonner has pointed out.
I like your channel, but I am Calvinist.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist I love your videos about Catholicism. Keep telling the truth that nobody wants to hear. I live in Portugal and I constantly see how harmful Catholicism is. God bless you!
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist calling Calvinism as Theology of Satan, do you consider that as being constructive?
Carmelito, good morning.
Thanks for your feedback. Yes, I believe such is helpful and constructive. Too long Calvinism has been honoured and tolerated. We cannot become too delicate and soft in dealing with such wickedness.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist so I get that. You are dealing with such wickedness as Calvinism by calling it Theology of Satan. And you consider that as being constructive. You distort that word "constructive", as pertaining to criticism, when you redefine it in such a way that it will support your own view.
Good afternoon. By using the term "constructive", I meant constructive to everyone in a developmental way; to non Calvinists it will send a very constructive (edifying, building, enabling) message warning about these matters. And to Calvinists I believe my words are also constructive; constructive words of love. Giving them a solid foundation to regard. I absolutely criticise Calvinist theory and doctrine, but I seek to help those ensnared by it's debauchery.
Thanks for your decent manner. I appreciate it.
They dont need to be corrected! They need to be told to get out. No Calvinist and Armenianist are saved, no leading of holy spirit if thet still followd that satanic doctrine.
calvinism is abusive
I agree my friend. I think it is an absolute abomination of a doctrine.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist calvinists have subliminally pissed me off into thinking im good for nothing while calvinist preachers sit in their ivory towers.
Whereas, as I trust you know, God loves you as much as any Calvinist.
Calvinism is an anti-gospel.
But"Jacob I loved Esau I hated God said that"
Yes he did say that and I know that you might have been taught that this verse proves that God hates and chooses hell for most and Loves you and a few other to send to heaven.
It just proves that Calvinism is true? Doesn't it?
After all Calvinist training says to use this verse at every occasion where someone dares to say that God actually Loves the whole human race and people are without excuse and accept or reject Gods salvation by their own free will choice?
What if I could show you that that is a lie taken out of context? Would you be affected, changed? Or would you go to the next Calvinism defending verse? Read the real truth about this verse. (note Calvinists leave out verse 13 on purpose!!)
Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad-in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12not by works but by him who calls-she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” Romans 9: 11-13
NOTE "Just as it is written!" Well where is it written? It is written in Genesis 25: 23!
The Lord said to her, (Rebekah)
“Two nations are in your womb,
and two peoples from within you will be separated;
one people will be stronger than the other,
and the older will serve the younger.”
It was talking about nations not individuals! In there lives the older DID NOT serve the younger. But the Nations did!
When the Bible referred to Esau and Jacob it was referring to THE NATIONS THEY REPRESENTED NOT THE INDIVIDUALS. But I know your John Calvin training will not allow you to see that.
TRUTH IN LOVE
Well said. Eternal destiny is nowhere in sight in Romans 9, yet this chapter is strangely adored by those DESIRING Calvinism to be true; I say "desiring"; for no one in their right mind could otherwise cleave to such irrational and wicked teaching. Thanks for your work here.
But why does it say there is no repentance for Esau even though he sought it carefully with tears? Especially now with the Hebrew Israelite/Jacobs descendants doctrine it makes sense. If god choose to put his people through all that suffering, slavery, pain what makes you think Esau/Edom will not have to go through that as well? God did that to his chosen people already
@@RspproductionzFaze Let me try to answer your question.
Hebrews 12: 16 See to it that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his birthright. 17For you know that afterward, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected. He could find no ground for repentance, though he sought the blessing with tears.
I believe this is an example of a man who though he knew God, he didn't backslide but actually rejected the Holy Spirit knowing what he was choosing to do.
There is no second salvation.
Look in the new testament and you see people committing the unforgiveable sin, by saved people.
Hebrews 5: 4 -6 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6and who have fallen c away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
They have cancelled their salvation. Their names have been blotted out!
Truth In Love
@@truth7416 I think some of this has happened to me, I got to know about God but I didn’t follow on in his footsteps so does that mean there is no repentance for me anymore because I kept sinning, is that the unforgivable sin? And do you know who Esau/Edom is today? Also why did God in Obadiah say Esau was cut of forever?
@@RspproductionzFaze No No No. If you are worried about committing the unforgivable sin then you haven't.
Let me explain.
You say you knew about God. Well the Devil and his fallen angels know that to.
Can you name a single person on Earth that deep down doesn't know that God exists?
To follow in his steps, to get right with God, counts for nothing. That is what all false religions preach. They say "You must do something, or you must give something to be right with God. That is trying to earn, or work your way to Heaven.
Talk to God like you would a person in your room. Tell Him that you believe that He exists. ( Only if you truly do. saying empty words like a parrot counts for nothing)
Tell God that you really want to know more about Him.
Tell God you are sorry for the way you have lived your life and want to change.
Tell God you are sorry for the sins you have committed and want to be forgiven by Him.
Now ask Jesus to forgive you and that you welcome The Holy Spirit into your soul, to guide and teach you all you should know in your new life.
Tell Jesus you believe He is the Son of God, the Christ The saviour of the World.
Tell Jesus you believe that He came into the World in the form of a man, Christ Jesus, and died on the cross for your sins and then rose from the grave 3 days later. This resurrection shows that you too will be raised.
Every Christian that ever was, or is to be, has done just that .(the facts are the same, the situation may have been different )
If you do this, in absolute sincerity, you are saved. Not could be! Not maybe! You are saved.
Now imagine a born again Christian now turning His back on God and totally rejecting God! Saying knowingly that they want nothing to do with God! That is the unforgivable sin! Their name will be bloated out of the Lambs Book of life.
Please ask any other questions you might have. It would be my honour to help you in anyway that I can.
AND REMEMBER THESE TRUTHS
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Acts 2 :21And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’ 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 This promise belongs to you and your children and to all who are far off-....
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Truth in Love
Calvanism gives God the most glory out of every other theologies….God is in complete control of salvation. Why does man desire to take Gods glory away from Him? Is it not true that there is not one man who deserves salvation? Then if that is true, and it most certainly is, then what is wrong with God choosing whom is His own and those He just leaves in their sin? God doesn’t need to show anyone mercy, justice yes, but in no way does God need to show anyone mercy. I see no problem with the Lord choosing those for His own, I mean, He is the creator, right? I am only saved because God elected me and appointed me to be His, and He did it because of nothing that I myself did, He did it because He has the freedom to do it for His own glory and purpose.
Good afternoon.
I believe that you are not at all reflecting biblical definitions of love, or of who God is. You seem also, as many others, to limit the definition of glory to being a matter of control, of sovereignty. You have also detached theology from reality - ripping the heart out of the genuine gospel. The glory of God consists in who He really is, and this includes gracious and merciful. Logic alone will tell us, conscience too, that it is scarcely a glorious thing to allow a child to perish just to demonstrate that you own the lifeboat company. It is cruelty and wickedness.
Please read the Bible for definitions of God, His glory and His love. Yes, God is sovereign - He can indeed do as He pleases - and thus ALL would be saved if He decided the matter as you claim, this being what He desires. With respect, it is not I who am robbing God of His glory; Calvinists do so by absurdly dissecting God into pieces and creating a monstrosity that is both horrific and unbiblical. Calvinism is not spoken against harshly enough - it is a false gospel.
Thanks for getting in touch.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist I’m sorry sir, but you are definitely robbing God of His glory, not a Calvinist. And also, I can’t see at all how anyone who reads the Word of the Lord is not able to clearly see that the theology of Calvinism is Biblical. And when you said that all would be saved is not truth. God died for the elect from before the foundation of the world, not the world. Why would you think that the world would be saved? The question is not why didn’t God save everyone, the question is why did God choose to save anyone. We are all vessels of Gods wrath and we all deserve hell, so God chose to show His mercy in those in whom He chose to do so. For the life of me, I just don’t understand how anyone would think it is wrong of God to choose whom He desires to be His very own. Why did God not choose to leave mankind in their sin as He did all the demons, I mean He could have if He chose to do so. God does what He desires, and as it says in Romans 9, what are you man, to talk back to God…..
Good afternoon. Out of genuine interest, how do you interpret "world" in John 3:16? Thanks.
Here is the problems I have with these ideals of stealing God’s glory. I had been a Christian for eleven years before becoming a Calvinist. So was I stealing glory from God before adopting Calvinism? So all the times God worked in my life was for nothing before becoming a Calvinist?
I surely do not agree with this video but I think we should refrain from accusing others of robbing God’s glory. Even if you know a person (like the author of this video), you cannot see what is in his mind or his heart to know whether he intends to steal glory from God.
For the author of this video-John Calvin never affirmed Limited Atonement. If you read his commentary on John 3:16, you would find him teaching God died for everyone.
Good morning. Thanks for your charitable comment.
Good point that you make about Calvinism in that, much is presumed to be originated or exemplified in the person of John Calvin, whereas the doctrines traditionally associated with him were taught long before he ever appeared on the world stage. I tried to introduce that idea, but maybe didn't make it clear enough. Thanks for your time.
Wow. So Calvinism had nothing to do with thd production of the KJV-because it did. Puritans who suggested the translation-they were Calvinists. King James himself-a Calvinist who by the way picked and commissioned the delegates representing the Church of England to the Synod of Dort. Believe he also picked the Scottish delegates as well. One British delegate was a translator of the AV.
So most of the translators were Calvinists.
Guess who else was a Calvinist? Theodore Beza whose edition of the TR was used to translate the NT. He just happened to be the protege of John Calvin and took over for him after Calvin died.
So if you think Calvinism is so reprehensible and opposes sound doctrine-why do you use a work of Calvinism as your Bible-the KJV. Don’t you think you should be consistent between your stated beliefs and practices? So when do you plan on throwing your KJV in the garbage can and pick a different translation to use? Or are you going to remain inconsistent, continue using the KJV, and basically continue your spiritual life as a hypocrite-one who has standards of theology that you do not follow yourself.
Are you saying the KJV is a Calvinist Bible? Your argument is a 2+2 = 5 argument. Those involved in the KJV also believed in the horrific unbiblical priest/laity system, infant baptism etc, but it doesn't make the KJV a Romish Bible. The English Bible is a work of God, not Calvinists; tools are used by God, but everything those tools hold doesn't impress onto scripture. If it's hypocrisy by me to hold my KJV in one hand and abominate Calvinism in the other, what of the Calvinists, who, as you assert, produced a KJV which actually testifies AGAINST their system! Are you sure the English Bible is a reflection of Calvinists? No. It is a production of God. Your enthusiasm for a false gospel has blinded you to simple Bible truths. Holding the views that you do, it is no marvel to me that you are quick to label me a hypocrite and demonstrate an uncharitable tone - just like the false God you have erected, for whatever reason, to confide and hide in. Genuine question; how do you define "world" in John 3:16 ?
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist God had nothing to do with the KJV. How do I know this? It is taught nowhere in the scriptures. English was not even a language (could be wrong but do not think German was a language either as English is a derivative of the German tongue.) My point is, how can you believe this when it is not found anywhere in the scriptures? Of course if we go by the practice of the authors of the NT, sometimes they quoted the Septuagint while other times the quoted an edition of the Hebrew OT ( the Masoretic text was not made until well past the writing of the NT between the seventh and tenth Century AD.) My point is the practice of the authors of the NT had no problem using multiple versions of the Bible as opposed to sticking to just one text.
I define the word world no different than what it means in its normative sense in the context of John three. In fact, I get on Calvinists for two reasons-they bring up the fact the word for world has a semantic range in meaning...could mean this (people alive when uttered by Christ or when John penned it) or mean that (the elect). The problem with doing interpretation this way is the fact they do not really make an argument using semantic domains. World means everyone and would tell anyone all one has to do is look and see how it is used in John three after verse 16. Besides some pretty poor Eisegesis by Calvinists, some get shocked to learn John Calvin defined the word, “world” and “whosoever” as a universal ideal. Though I disagree with some of his other constructions of doctrine(double predestination and the decrees of God), in all his writings including his Institutes, not one time has John Calvin ever affirmed Limited Atonement. In fact when Moses Amyraut taught unlimited atonement, when a Synod was convened to deal with this very issue, he appealed to the fact John Calvin did not teach Limited Atonement. His view was judged to be in line with Reformed Orthodoxy (Calvinism).
You have no problem condemning Calvinists and I would say if you are going to condemn Calvinists-be consistent. Let your orthopraxi match your orthodoxy.
Did you know King James had Arminians arrested after the Synod of Dort when they balked at his ideal to sign a loyalty oath, to not preach against him or the Church of England. Why was that? He was in league with Holland (Synod of Dort essentially sealed this alignment) to go to war with Catholic Spain. He saw this being a problem-but especially after the gun powder plot when Catholics tried blowing up parliament with King James and the serving body with him.
On the other hand, the KJV was just an updating of the Bishop’s Bible which is also a Calvinist/reformed product.
It is easy to start slinging mud at people but I am shocked that you have a problem with this when I am acting just like you.
Personally, I could care less what Bible you or anyone ever uses. I just have a problem with condemning holders of a particular doctrine or system of theology but will not act on the standard they created for others.
@@daveme7 "God had nothing to do with the KJV. " That's all you needed to say.. and all that needed to be heard.
@@richardbrout2242 yup.. No need to read the remaining argument..
@@daveme7 You seem to be ever learning and never able to come to knowledge of the truth.
The doctrines of grace aren’t satanic at all. They’re biblical. Just read John 6 and see how Jesus talks about those Nehemiah the Father has given me. No comes to me less the Father draws them. Ephesians 1 and 2 is full of sovereign election.
You may not agree with it but don’t call it satanic. I left an Arminian understanding and have been doctrines of grace for about 20 years now. My view of the absolute sovereign grace of God has grown increasingly and given me greater assurance of faith.
Ephesians 1 speaks of the triune work in the salvation of a believer and how we are sealed in the Holy Spirit. What we haven’t earned through our works cannot be lost. Praise be to the glorious Father who has called all this He loves.
Revelation 3:19 Those whom I love I rebuke a discipline.
Man cannot choose to believe: God must grant the gift of faith to his elect. We are dead in trespasses and sins. “Man’s free will” is a myth.
Can I sincerely ask, as I believe in giving views a hearing; I'm interested in how you/Calvinists would explain God's appeals to Man to turn, to repent, to believe, to put away evil etc, if free will was a myth? Thanks for your time Hugh. I appreciate your honesty.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist the appeals are of course, commands (Acts 17:30), that are as universal as God’s laws. He grants faith to some out of mercy and not to others out of wrath.
Thanks for the explanation Hugh.
@@hughmccann919 what a tyrant your god is. Perhaps your god needs to read 1 john 3:18....and 1 john 2:2.
@@janetcadieux6427 yes the god of calvinism is confusing and terrifying as he indiscriminately damns people to hell without any choice, decision, responsibility or desire in the matter.
If mankind has no (God-given) free-will or decision in the matter how do the calvinists know if they are truly saved?
Maybe it’s wishful, hopeful thinking?
I heard one calvinist say he knew he was saved because he loved Jesus, but the jesus of calvinism is NOT any more the Jesus of the Bible than the jesus of the jehovah witnesses or mormons.
The world hates Calvinism because it takes away the idea of Man's controlling his own destiny. But as Scripture bears out, we are all put here for GOD's purposes,Not our own. This is what Calvinism teaches. Calvinism recognizes that if you are Saved, it is because you were chosen by God. You were Predestined to be Saved and serve the Purposes of our God and you chosen for that reason before the Foundation of the World. This is all clearly stated in Scripture. Those who are rebellious to God's Plan of Salvation are rebelling out of Human Pride. Read the book of Ephesians and the book of Romans for yourself and listen to what the Scriptures tell you. You don't have to believe some one else's interpretation when you can understand it yourself. if your a sheep belonging to the Good Shepard, you will recognize the Shepard's Voice and you will know the Truth. Jesus said "I know my Sheep and am known by my own." Jesus said "I know my sheep and they follow me". Jesus said " My father who has given them to me, is greater than all and no one is able to snatch them out of my Father's hand." This is what John Calvin believed is true and so do I. One of the worst things a person can do is call the Holy Spirit Evil as the Man is this video claims. The Truth is in the Scriptures. Romans 8 and 9 means exactly what it says. So does Ephesians 1. Read and listen to the Holy Spirit who does not lie. He will give you an understanding of what you are reading. May God bless you as you read.
if you think calvinism is reflective of God in the bible, you are quite deceived. Turn from the deception , quit giving the satan a foothold, and consider a RELATIONSHIP with Jesus. Happy Easter.
The world, and the born again Christian, hates Calvinism because it is an abomination and scandal unto our God-given conscience. It is remarkably that Calvinists sit comfortable with the astonishing contradiction that a Calvinistic God supposedly gives us a conscience that hates and detests Calvinistic doctrine and theory. I agree that Romans 9 and Ephesians 1 mean what the say - national destiny for Israel and predestined spiritual blessings for those responding to God; with no mention of being chosen to believe.
@@TheEnglishFundamentalist Thank you for your clearly applied and wholistic (heart mind body soul) application, to where the conclusions of the reformed/calvinistic,augustinian system leads, and how these systems characterize the living God of our Christian faith. Many blessings to you and yours.
I appreciate your words Truth Seeker.
@@truthseeker5698Easter isn’t Christian!
The irony of this is that he is literally calling God's word "theology of satan."
If you understood God's word then you would understand there is "none righteous, not one."
And that the ONLY reason even ONE Person was saved out of OT Israel was because "GOD left a remnant" otherwise they "would become like sodom, we would have been like gomorrah." (Romans 9:29)
Read Ezekiel 6 where God condemns ALL of them of sin and says "Yet I will save SOME of you."
You would understand that the ENTIRE PROBLEM with the old covenant was man's "free will" because it relied on "If a man DOES these things he will live" (Leviticus 18:5, Romans 10:5)
God gave His laws and statutes to Israel and them ALONE (Psalm 147:19-20) They WERE supposed to "be a light for the gentiles" but they FAILED and NONE were worthy of salvation. NONE "chose" to follow The LORD.
THIS is why we learn in the NEW Testament "By the works of the law NO man will be justified." (Galatians 2:16)
WHY? Because *RELYING ON MAN'S FREE WILL IS THE VERY PROBLEM*
Read Hebrews 8 Where GOD tells us the TWO PROBLEMS with the Old Covenant:
8 But God *FOUND FAULT WITH THE PEOPLE* and said:
(THE PEOPLE were the problem with the Old Covenant)
“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a *NEW COVENANT*
with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah.
9 It will *NOT BE LIKE THE OLD COVENANT* (The NC will NOT rely on "The People")
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt,
*BECAUSE* (Here's where you need to listen. God is about to tell us WHY the Old Covenant failed "because of the people"*)
*THEY DID NOT REMAIN FAITHFUL to my covenant*
So God needs to change libertarian free will into a compatible one in order to keep His faithful covenant and yet we still see a remnant despite libertarian freewill?
Interesting indeed…
@@JulietManx
Apply whatever philosophical terms you like, but what I've written is bibe truth.
Ezekiel 36
22 “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord God:
*I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name’s sake*
which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went.
23 And *I WILL SANCITFY* My great name, which has been profaned among the nations,
which *YOU HAVE PROFANED* in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the Lord,” says the Lord God, “when I am hallowed in you before their eyes.
NOTICE 2 Things:
1. God does what He does for HIS sake, NOT mankind's sake! *IT'S NOT ABOUT US*
This is a MAJOR reason why many refuse to believe what the bible ACTUALLY says. They're stuck on the "What about OUR free will" narravite.
2. Again, look what mankind's "Free Will" accomplished. They PROFANED God's name!
*Continued*
24 For *I WILL* take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land.
25 Then *I WILL* sprinkle clean water on you,and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. (CLEAN WATER IS GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT. SEE JOHN 3)
26 *I WILL* give you a new heart and put a
*NEW SPIRIT* within you; (NEW SPIRIT = BORN AGAIN. SEE JOHN 3)
*I WILL* take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
27 *I WILL* put My Spirit within you and
*I WILL CAUSE YOU* to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.
(AGAIN, THIS IS GOD WORKING *IN US* (SEE PHILIPPIANS 2:13)
28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God.
29 *I WILL* deliver you from all your uncleannesses. I will call for the grain and multiply it, and bring no famine upon you.
30 And *I WILL* multiply the fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields, so that you need never again bear the reproach of famine among the nations.
31 *THEN* (Notice what the people will do *AFTER GOD DOES HIS WORK....IN......THEM*
you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good; and you will loathe yourselves in your own sight, for your iniquities and your abominations.
(THIS IS CALLED REPTENTANCE AND SORROW FOR SIN AND IT IS GOD'S WORK..IN...US FOR..
"the goodness of God leads you to repentance?" (Romans 2:4)
32 Not for your sake do I do this,” says the Lord God, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel!”
Do you see all of the "I WILL" statements? Salvation is ALL of God, from start to finish.
"He who *BEGAN* a good work
*WILL COMPLETE IT* until the day of Jesus Christ;" (Philippians 1:6)
@@JulietManx
Also, the fact that you bring up a philosophical argument is not a coincidence. It's the same line of thinking that Paul warned against in several of his writings. Using "human" or "philosophical" arguments:
Colossians 2:8-10 (NKJ)
8 Beware lest anyone *cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit*
*according to the tradition of men* according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;
10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.
Romans 3:
5But if our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unjust who inflicts wrath?
*I speak as a man*
Here, Paul articulates the argument he knows his detractors will make and says "I speak as a man" meaning, I'm making philosophical arguments of MEN.
*Paul's answer*
6Certainly not! For then how will God judge the world?
7For if the truth of God has increased through my lie to His glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?
Again, Paul makes a nonsense philosophical argument that only men without knowledge would make.
*Paul's answer*
why not say, “Let us do evil that good may come”?-as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say.
*Their condemnation is just*
Stop using philosophical arguments and understand what God's word ACTUALLY says!
"“For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways,
And My thoughts than your thoughts." - Isaiah 55:8-9
@@rolysantos nothing to do with philosophy but everything to do with you stating that God has changed the free will of man. This is a doctrine issue not a philosophical one. The FULL counsel is in question here by your straw man argument.
Are you a Calvinist?
@@JulietManx
No, it has EVERYthing to do with philosophy. This is not a "straw man" argument. I have laid out for you using two different scritpures the biblical doctrine of how man's "Free will" works.
God has not "changed" man's free will. Again, your words demonstrate your lack of understanding of scripture. Respectfully.
You literally begin with the premise (whether spoken or unspoken)
We KNOW that man has the free will to choose God. Now let's understand election from there.
But the bible does not teach this "free will." The bible literally teaches just the opposite, as I have already demonstrated.
The ONLY thing man's free will does is "CHOOSE" to sin and drives him AWAY from God.
Remember God's words?
"THEY turned away from me, so I TURNED away from them!"
Yes, we DO have free will. We do what we WANT to do, and again *THAT IS THE PROBLEM*
A rattlensake has "Free Will" to do what a rattlesnake WANTS to do. Slither onto a warm rock or into a cool hole in the ground.
What a rattlensake cannot do is "Choose" to have the dispostion and nature of a harmless kitten!
That would require a change of NATURE or a change of HEART!
*AND ONLY GOD CAN DO THAT*
This is precisely what Ezekiel 36 is telling us!
Our hearts are like stone by NATURE!
We do not choose God because we cannot choose God!
Can an Ethiopian change his skin or a leopard its spots? *Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil*
Jeremiah 13:23
We are as Paul said, "BY NATURE, Objects of wrath" (Ephesians 2)
Unless and until GOD MOVES IN US to "take away our heart of stone and *GIVE* us a heart of flesh" by HIS will, we will NEVER "choose" to follow christ!
This is called being "quickedned" or "made alive" by GOD'S Spirit, by GOD'S Living word and by GOD'S will!
John 3:
Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and *that which is born of the Spirit is spirit*
7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’
8 The wind blows *WHERE IT WISHES* , and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes.
*SO IS EVERYONE WHO IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT* (The Spirit "blows" where HE wishes)
Jesus reveals the Father to whom HE wants (Matthew 11:27)
*Of his own will* begat he us with THE WORD OF TRUTH, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. -James 1:18
Again, stop relying on man's philosophy and start relying on what God ACTUALLY said!
I speak nothing but "the full counsel of God" and nothing I believe contradicts any other scriptures. It's called "analogy of faith." Scripture interprets scripture! It's man imposing his own thoughts and philophy into scripture that causes issues.
I am not anything. I BELIEVE God's word and God's word teaches the doctrine of Sovereign Election.