Ficou sensacional essa configuração ! Um dos melhores sons que já ouvi de uma captação de bateria !!!! Parabéns !! Poderia por favor dizer qual o modelo dessa caixa ( Snare Drum ) ? Obrigado. Saúde e sucesso para você.
As everyone else has stated, both sound phenomenal. However I "personally" really like that GT Technique. It just draws me in a bit more. The modern is great, but I find myself tuning out a little faster (likely because it's a more common sound). Great upload.
Thank you, Steve!! The Glyn Johns technique adds a ton of vibe to the track whereas the modern approach is, as you stated, a bit more common. As a drummer I lean towards the sound of the Glyn Johns technique. :)
huge difference between Glyn Johns 4 and the 7. the 4 is why when I was learning many moons ago. We had to try things like slow down the record to try and distinguish between bass and bass drum. Granted, I wound up with a nice bass foot due to choosing incorrectly. Even with the 7 mic setup It's much easier to hear each drums tone and attack. Johns god bless him was actually more than most needed then. But it was muddy at times. The generation who grew up having videos to actually see what is being played is a double edge sword. They do learn more efficiently, BUT they don't have the same live local music scene that even the 80's had. That was my RUclips, playing with other musicians and doing the showcase Saturdays where I got to see how other drummers did it. Maybe because I'm an old curmudgeon I think the way we had it was much more enjoyable. Any given night I could go find 4 or 5 different options to jam with. Great channel. Keep 'em coming
Thank you for checking out the video and for your comment! The live music scene has definitely taken a hit. Wish there were more original bands in my area. I know that Nashville still has a great live scene. I've considered relocating several times. :)
Love it, sounds great. They both sound pro but I am surprised to actually prefer the 4 mic version out of those two. it sounds like its got more dynamic and more stereo. its more exciting to listen to. I guess this contradict my untested theory that more mics are better. At 2nd listen The Kick and Toms have better tone with the 7 mic system while the cymbals sound way more exciting with the 4, the cymbal seem to move around in a really cool way in the first recording. : ) you could probably come up with something that gets the best of both worlds. perhaps get a DRDK7 mic kit to get that polished sound out of your toms than mic the cymbals however you did in the first recording.
Great player, great kit, perfectly tuned. Mic technique really doesn't matter much. They sounded different, but both sounded great. More than anything it is about the performance and the song. Thanks for the video!
Compromise is what these methods are about. GJ gives more room sound but less discrete tom attack. The modern/close mic sound is more articulate, but then, when used, there is more opportunity for phase or polarity incongruence. With the modern/ close mic technique, we drummers still deem the room mics as "indispensable," LOL.
Indeed. They both have their challenges and both have something that I like. The funny thing about room mics is I rarely use them because the size of the room is so small. :)
@@RecordingDrumsWithBrad I had that problem with my small room as well, so I started bringing the room mic /s out into the living room, and leaving the door open. Voila'
They both sound great. However, I prefer the more modern technique as I think it provided more presence in the overall sound. Kick drum was much more prevalent and sounded great, filling the track up on the low end. I think the Glyn Johns technique is cool and useful in some applications, but to me, the more modern sound is “your” sound 😁
The Glen Johns technique sounded more like live in the room and the modern sounded more defined and punchy. I personally liked the modern technique but I do like the Glen Johns for certain things like jazz.
You know what might be interesting? A modern Metal track recorded with the Glyn Johns technique plus all the guitars/amps from the ‘60s/‘70s era and micing techniques of the time. No samples, no triggers, no IRs. Might be a muddy mess, but then again it might sound cool. Idk?
This comparison brings to the forefront the issue I have had in the past utilizing the GJ method, and that is..... I really dig the sound, but I can't control the crash cymbals from just taking over the mix.
Ficou sensacional essa configuração ! Um dos melhores sons que já ouvi de uma captação de bateria !!!!
Parabéns !!
Poderia por favor dizer qual o modelo dessa caixa ( Snare Drum ) ?
Obrigado. Saúde e sucesso para você.
Thank you!!! The snare drum is a Tama Swingstar 6.5x14 seamless steel shell made in Japan in 1984. :)
As everyone else has stated, both sound phenomenal. However I "personally" really like that GT Technique. It just draws me in a bit more. The modern is great, but I find myself tuning out a little faster (likely because it's a more common sound). Great upload.
Thank you, Steve!! The Glyn Johns technique adds a ton of vibe to the track whereas the modern approach is, as you stated, a bit more common. As a drummer I lean towards the sound of the Glyn Johns technique. :)
The GJ method suits the rest of the mix and the style better but the modern approach is perfectly serviceable and high quality.
Thank you! I definitely like how lively the Glyn Johns mic setup sounds for this track. :)
huge difference between Glyn Johns 4 and the 7. the 4 is why when I was learning many moons ago. We had to try things like slow down the record to try and distinguish between bass and bass drum. Granted, I wound up with a nice bass foot due to choosing incorrectly.
Even with the 7 mic setup It's much easier to hear each drums tone and attack. Johns god bless him was actually more than most needed then. But it was muddy at times.
The generation who grew up having videos to actually see what is being played is a double edge sword. They do learn more efficiently, BUT they don't have the same live local music scene that even the 80's had.
That was my RUclips, playing with other musicians and doing the showcase Saturdays where I got to see how other drummers did it. Maybe because I'm an old curmudgeon I think the way we had it was much more enjoyable. Any given night I could go find 4 or 5 different options to jam with.
Great channel. Keep 'em coming
Thank you for checking out the video and for your comment! The live music scene has definitely taken a hit. Wish there were more original bands in my area. I know that Nashville still has a great live scene. I've considered relocating several times. :)
Love it, sounds great. They both sound pro but I am surprised to actually prefer the 4 mic version out of those two. it sounds like its got more dynamic and more stereo. its more exciting to listen to. I guess this contradict my untested theory that more mics are better. At 2nd listen The Kick and Toms have better tone with the 7 mic system while the cymbals sound way more exciting with the 4, the cymbal seem to move around in a really cool way in the first recording. : ) you could probably come up with something that gets the best of both worlds. perhaps get a DRDK7 mic kit to get that polished sound out of your toms than mic the cymbals however you did in the first recording.
Thanks, Nate!! I'm going to give blending the two microphone setups and see what I come up with! :)
Great player, great kit, perfectly tuned. Mic technique really doesn't matter much. They sounded different, but both sounded great. More than anything it is about the performance and the song. Thanks for the video!
Thank you, Geoff! Much appreciated!! :)
Compromise is what these methods are about. GJ gives more room sound but less discrete tom attack. The modern/close mic sound is more articulate, but then, when used, there is more opportunity for phase or polarity incongruence. With the modern/ close mic technique, we drummers still deem the room mics as "indispensable," LOL.
Indeed. They both have their challenges and both have something that I like.
The funny thing about room mics is I rarely use them because the size of the room is so small. :)
@@RecordingDrumsWithBrad I had that problem with my small room as well, so I started bringing the room mic /s out into the living room, and leaving the door open. Voila'
They both sound great. However, I prefer the more modern technique as I think it provided more presence in the overall sound. Kick drum was much more prevalent and sounded great, filling the track up on the low end. I think the Glyn Johns technique is cool and useful in some applications, but to me, the more modern sound is “your” sound 😁
Thanks, Clint! That's one of the things that I like about the modern approach, the low end. :)
The Glen Johns technique sounded more like live in the room and the modern sounded more defined and punchy. I personally liked the modern technique but I do like the Glen Johns for certain things like jazz.
I can definitely see the Glyn Johns technique being perfect for recording jazz. :)
They honestly both sound great.
Thanks, Jacob! :)
The first one had a bit more life and loudness but the 2nd sounded more HD and compressed. I think a mix of the two is needed for the next demo.
Love the idea of mixing the two techniques! I'll work on that and post the results. Thank you! :)
You know what might be interesting? A modern Metal track recorded with the Glyn Johns technique plus all the guitars/amps from the ‘60s/‘70s era and micing techniques of the time. No samples, no triggers, no IRs. Might be a muddy mess, but then again it might sound cool. Idk?
Love the idea, Geoff! I'll see if I can put a track together and see how it sounds! :)
This comparison brings to the forefront the issue I have had in the past utilizing the GJ method, and that is..... I really dig the sound, but I can't control the crash cymbals from just taking over the mix.
Yep, that's one of the issues I have with the technique as well. It doesn't help that I have some of the loudest crash cymbals ever produced. Haha!!