Merci! Thanks Cesar for making a very good video out of the animated GIF I sent you ! nsm09.casimages.com/img/2022/05/02//22050206394514553317882759.gif You first responded there was not enough to make a posting out of it. (Hi Jean, It is not enough material for a whole video, but it was very interesting. Thank you !! :) My sincere apologies for the late response.) I was thinking of editing something, it would have ressembled parts 1 & 2 of this video. But you did it much better than I could have done it. My only snooker posting on YT: ruclips.net/video/53CZWB4mCbk/видео.html Thanks for the continuous effort you put in your channel.
Absolutely great video of a great moment in snooker history. We watched all this live but it was thrilling to see it again, especially so because of the brilliant editing. Thanks Cesar.
Looking forward to the GOAT Ronnie O'Sullivan winning perhaps his 8th title in 2023. He has it in him, Cool, Calm and Collected. Championship Quality Assured!
Great editing to show the cue ball positions. Ronnie is awesome. And absolutely right. Snooker needs tennis' Shot Spot. Camera + software records exact ball positions, ceiling projector projects those positions. Done.
What do you guys think of the refereeing job being done here in moment 3? I think he did a poor job because he didnt move it to the right/up( in our perspective) according to Ronnie's request. And he seem to be looking for a row when he said" according to the picture, it's bang on." I think he didnt realize when he raised his voice, his tone made it seem like he was very impatient and he didnt wanna move the white anymore.It important for the ref to realize how the tone of the voice can have such an effect.That was why Ronnie said the ref was looking for trouble at some point. And his response to Ronnie after Ronnie came down to play but thought he couldnt see it made it worse: "But you agreed before." He could always change his mind even if he agreed. That was what frustrated Ronnie so much that he asked the ref if he wanted him to play another shot. Quite sarcastic for him to say that.
He specifically asked the referee if he's convinced that he can see the red. The referee gives a vague response saying "I've seen the situation". Should have been a simple yes or no.
@23.05what a placing jude but if you come across Ronnie u come across the very best on the Verge again something quite special well played both of them nice editing too 💞💞
most unthrilling vid you have made so far :D but its because Ronnie was so unthrilling this year. he was just above the laws of physics. there was simply no room for any thrill. this was just god mode. what a championship, what a result, what a joy to watch!
The way Judd applies the left hand side on the shot at 33:27 looks like he does it with his backhand and makes the adjustment mid-stroke, very interesting! edit: on second thought it looks like he does a little movement on all his shots haha
The commentators + TV people can do that which makes it even more frustrating. Dunno why they don't cooperate, or get a tablet/software showing old vs. current ball positions that the ref could use.
Definitely moved to much to the right in the end there in the first incident. But If you check how close he comes to the blue on the first shot and how close to the red its obvious he could hit it to begin with.
Just waiting for the he sets a new record by winning that 8th in coming years and put down the cue stick for one last dance! And he will surely get that 8th title very soon, have no doubt about it.
A true great getting a bit older now but after just wining the masters not playing hes best glad he’s gone in the grand prix and won playing well no One can touch him around a table a true master of hes craft 😊😊
Ronnie and Judd could play this with just a scorekeeper. Both of them are completely honest players and play for the enjoyment of the game. No need for a ref whatsoever.
Ronnie took an unnecessary advantage when he involved judd into it. Because he couldn't see the red in the first place. But hats off to judd for his great sportsmanship.
I cannot believe how bad these respots are by the Referees. Is there no way using some computerized technique to visualize the original position of the cue ball??
Ref has final say and you have to play it where he spots it even if you not happy. asking the other player to mark it so you can complain after you miss it should be warned and frowned upon as the REF must like a judge in the court keep control over all the rules and fair play to both players and you can see in older matches where the Ref has said to PLAY and dont argue and the rules allow for penalties for this and that. you could ask the REF to see the white before you play it but after he puts it back, you cant say no, thats not where it was without a risk of penalty. ASK yes, but when the REF says thats where he thinks it should be thats it, you have to play....
20:58 - "So unfortunate to land there". What was "unfortunate" about it? The cue ball hit no other balls than the red. Judd Trump is overrated. In the next two minutes of the video, Judd is "unlucky" two more times. Then pots a long red with screw back. JT plays low percentage snooker.
23:48 - "Open the black now as well. Ohhhhhh" (as he loses the cue ball up against the red). Proceeds to miss the black (should have been easy), loses the frame. 41:47 - an equally bad miss
27:57 - Ronnie has a similar long shot to a red. Pots it and is perfect on the black. I'm really curious what Judd Trump practices. He keeps making the same mistakes.
Bro we get it,you hate judd. Im a Ronnie fan but you gotta admit that judd is actually good and has crazy exhibition shots that no one else played before. Not to mention that he has won more matches against Ronnie. (More of a Ronnie fan btw)
@@najwankhbees2122 Exhibition shots have no place on a Snooker table, unless you've already won the frame. The real point is that Judd Trump lacks control. And yet many like the guy and rave about his shooting. It is embarrassing for Snooker, frankly.
@@FloydMaxwell And yet he still won against the best snooker players ever,he has won against ronnie many times,won tournaments many times and he's overall top 10 in the world.
Special thanks to Jean Létourneau for sharing his analysis of the ball replacement incident in frame 4.
Merci! Thanks Cesar for making a very good video out of the animated GIF I sent you !
nsm09.casimages.com/img/2022/05/02//22050206394514553317882759.gif
You first responded there was not enough to make a posting out of it. (Hi Jean,
It is not enough material for a whole video, but it was very interesting. Thank you !! :)
My sincere apologies for the late response.)
I was thinking of editing something, it would have ressembled parts 1 & 2 of this video. But you did it much better than I could have done it.
My only snooker posting on YT:
ruclips.net/video/53CZWB4mCbk/видео.html
Thanks for the continuous effort you put in your channel.
Go on Jean!
Ronnie is so very far above the rest of the field. He is indeed an artist. A rock. And the very best to ever play the game.
Without doubt, spot on Floyd...
🌏👱♀️🇨🇮💗👍🏽🤔😒👌🏼👍🏽💗☺️😅😒😒👈👍🏽🍰🍰☕️☕️🍧👍🏽💗
The two best in the world and a wonderful respect for each other...bravo!
You have the best snooker channel. Period. Full stop too.
Have being the key word, I believe even Cesar will appreciate Tequila. His videos were something else. Epitome of all the RUclips snooker channels.
Already saw the entire final but still getting curious on every shot😂😂
Love you 🚀
Judd is undoubtedly a true gentleman of the game ❤️
I can't tell you how much I've been looking forward to this video.
Absolutely great video of a great moment in snooker history. We watched all this live but it was thrilling to see it again, especially so because of the brilliant editing. Thanks Cesar.
👍 Was gonna say the same thing...
While everybody's thought that Ronnie just stuck with 6th title and retire.but he got 7th and will rockin' again next season!!well done Ron!!!
Great match,great episode from Cesar.Snooker doesn’t get any better then this channel.
Looking forward to the GOAT Ronnie O'Sullivan winning perhaps his 8th title in 2023. He has it in him, Cool, Calm and Collected. Championship Quality Assured!
Everyone who thought ROS would win his 7th world title, was right. He's really unstoppable at the moment!
Such a bright edit and commentary full of all of the expectation and desire! Every bit enjoyable.
Thanks so much for posting (and the amazing edit as usual).
What a fantastic snooker channel this is, great job
Great editing to show the cue ball positions. Ronnie is awesome. And absolutely right. Snooker needs tennis' Shot Spot. Camera + software records exact ball positions, ceiling projector projects those positions. Done.
I love it when Ronnie said "You try" to referee Olivier Marteel and offered him his cue. Too funny and the crowd loved it!!! LOL
51:31 - a typical Ronnie shot. No flash, just perfect.
Excellent edit! Great job Cesar!
Ronnie O'sullivan is still something special
i wonder how things would be if hendry were still playing. congratulations Ronnie. Deserved.
What do you guys think of the refereeing job being done here in moment 3? I think he did a poor job because he didnt move it to the right/up( in our perspective) according to Ronnie's request. And he seem to be looking for a row when he said" according to the picture, it's bang on." I think he didnt realize when he raised his voice, his tone made it seem like he was very impatient and he didnt wanna move the white anymore.It important for the ref to realize how the tone of the voice can have such an effect.That was why Ronnie said the ref was looking for trouble at some point.
And his response to Ronnie after Ronnie came down to play but thought he couldnt see it made it worse: "But you agreed before." He could always change his mind even if he agreed. That was what frustrated Ronnie so much that he asked the ref if he wanted him to play another shot. Quite sarcastic for him to say that.
He specifically asked the referee if he's convinced that he can see the red. The referee gives a vague response saying "I've seen the situation". Should have been a simple yes or no.
@23.05what a placing jude but if you come across Ronnie u come across the very best on the Verge again something quite special well played both of them nice editing too 💞💞
most unthrilling vid you have made so far :D
but its because Ronnie was so unthrilling this year. he was just above the laws of physics. there was simply no room for any thrill. this was just god mode.
what a championship, what a result, what a joy to watch!
The way Judd applies the left hand side on the shot at 33:27 looks like he does it with his backhand and makes the adjustment mid-stroke, very interesting!
edit: on second thought it looks like he does a little movement on all his shots haha
He also did it in 15:30
Oh my gad . Ros, like a google map on the Table he is have good Photographing in his mind
Fun fact - both Hendry and Williams when they made 16 centuries in Crucible didn't win the world title.
I believe Ebdon beat Hendry in the final?
Why marker cant do the same thing like Cesar? Just screenshoting position before and after with zoom-in?
The commentators + TV people can do that which makes it even more frustrating. Dunno why they don't cooperate, or get a tablet/software showing old vs. current ball positions that the ref could use.
Definitely moved to much to the right in the end there in the first incident. But If you check how close he comes to the blue on the first shot and how close to the red its obvious he could hit it to begin with.
did we ever learn what ref moment #2 was about?
I'd like to know too
Just waiting for the he sets a new record by winning that 8th in coming years and put down the cue stick for one last dance! And he will surely get that 8th title very soon, have no doubt about it.
Beautiful
The general management of this beautiful sport by the WST is the definition of rotten incompetence.
Ronnie should win his 8th playing the tourney left handed. Tell me he couldn't...
18:38 - Few would even think to try this, let alone have it work out so well.
Unbelievably good shot, rare too
A true great getting a bit older now but after just wining the masters not playing hes best glad he’s gone in the grand prix and won playing well no
One can touch him around a table a true master of hes craft 😊😊
Se sont des joueurs professionnels et champions et ils nous donnent un bon spectacle
Hey I’m new to snooker 🎱
Can anyone explain what’s happening in the beginning of the video, Where judd took the break shot
There seems to be a difference of opinion between the ref and the spotter of what "a fraction" means?
Oh, u have nothing to say after the ending.
Ronnie and Judd could play this with just a scorekeeper. Both of them are completely honest players and play for the enjoyment of the game. No need for a ref whatsoever.
You have full video,for upload?
Players should be allowed to move the cue ball by hand to where they think it was
Theres a reason referees wear gloves.
Ronnie hug to trump and appreciate 😢❤❤❤
Trump next time🎉❤
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@@FloydMaxwell always logged in, but lot of people apparently not, reason for few likes, not necessarily fans..
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51:30 "the cannon"
ref trying to make a name for himself in a final 😂😂😂
Can anybody explain what was happening in the beginning
Next time..the referee should see the commentary screen guidelines to know what the actual ball position..don't be like selfishness
What wrong with the first shot you guy I am very curious ?
Ronnie took an unnecessary advantage when he involved judd into it. Because he couldn't see the red in the first place. But hats off to judd for his great sportsmanship.
He could see the edge
He could barely see the edge. On final position, he could see much more of the red than he was supposed to.
Ronnie acts like a kid , judd even being young acts like a gentleman
I cannot believe how bad these respots are by the Referees. Is there no way using some computerized technique to visualize the original position of the cue ball??
The referee is rubbish but he's also weak. O'Sullivan also unfairly humiliated him by taking advantage of his weakness during the cue ducking moment.
That's a good summary 👍🏼
Thats the difference
Мартель канеш напожарил в этом финале 🥴
Please upload 35 fram full video
Bro the last frame in the video was the last frame. Ronnie won 18 frames so he won the best of 35
@@najwankhbees2122 bro i need full video of 35 fram 10 hours
@@hasanroney7226 Oh you mean all frames? Why not just watch the best shots of the frames?
Ref has final say and you have to play it where he spots it even if you not happy. asking the other player to mark it so you can complain after you miss it should be warned and frowned upon as the REF must like a judge in the court keep control over all the rules and fair play to both players and you can see in older matches where the Ref has said to PLAY and dont argue and the rules allow for penalties for this and that.
you could ask the REF to see the white before you play it but after he puts it back, you cant say no, thats not where it was without a risk of penalty. ASK yes, but when the REF says thats where he thinks it should be thats it, you have to play....
3:22🎱🚩🔴 3:28🎱you can try? - 🚩no no😃😃😃😃😃you try is???
Discalification for contesting more and more a referee decision. Ronnie is not a god is only a player and the rule is the rule.
U try 🤣
WHERE'S BBC commentating? Mid session?
The ref was shithouse.
20:58 - "So unfortunate to land there". What was "unfortunate" about it? The cue ball hit no other balls than the red. Judd Trump is overrated.
In the next two minutes of the video, Judd is "unlucky" two more times. Then pots a long red with screw back.
JT plays low percentage snooker.
23:48 - "Open the black now as well. Ohhhhhh" (as he loses the cue ball up against the red). Proceeds to miss the black (should have been easy), loses the frame.
41:47 - an equally bad miss
27:57 - Ronnie has a similar long shot to a red. Pots it and is perfect on the black.
I'm really curious what Judd Trump practices. He keeps making the same mistakes.
Bro we get it,you hate judd. Im a Ronnie fan but you gotta admit that judd is actually good and has crazy exhibition shots that no one else played before. Not to mention that he has won more matches against Ronnie. (More of a Ronnie fan btw)
@@najwankhbees2122 Exhibition shots have no place on a Snooker table, unless you've already won the frame. The real point is that Judd Trump lacks control. And yet many like the guy and rave about his shooting. It is embarrassing for Snooker, frankly.
@@FloydMaxwell And yet he still won against the best snooker players ever,he has won against ronnie many times,won tournaments many times and he's overall top 10 in the world.
so much ceremony for nothing