Battlefield Map references: Battlefield Map based off of "'For God, Emperor, and Country!' The Evolution of Ethiopia's Nineteenth-Century Army " - By John Dunn, from _War in History_ . Oh, I forgot to mention this, all sources used in this video can be found in the description! I fully recommend you check them out. Sources: Cambridge History of Africa UNESCO general history of Africa Egyptian Invasion of Ethiopia - Czeslaw Jesman The Egyptian-Abyssinian War of 1894-1876 - Arthor E Robinson “For god, for emperor, for country!” - The Evolution of Ethiopia's Nineteenth Century Army - John Duhn Ras Alula and the Scramble for Africa: A Political Biography: Ethiopia & Eritrea 1875 - 1897 - Haggai Erlich A History of Ethiopia - Herald G Marcus A confederate soldier in Egypt - W.W. Loring
Dear HiddenHistory: 🇪🇷 1. there was no country called "Ethiopia" in 1875. Rather, there were fragmented autonomous sovereign kingdoms in that part of the world wit their respective names. Keep in mind, the so called country with the name "Ethiopia" was formed in 1906. FACTS. 🇪🇷 2. the area that was invaded by the "Egyptians" was "Medri Bahri kingdom of Hamasien" (aka modern day Eritrea), and it was an autonomous sovereign kingdom at that time with its own king and its own army. 🇪🇷 3. the Egyptians were defeated by King Weldemikael of Medri Bahri kingdom of Hamasien (current day Eritrea). 🇪🇷 Therefore, please get your facts together and don't feed us this "Afrocentric / Eurocentric" driven bs narrative. If you want to learn facts, go visit the Eritrean Museum in Asmara, and archeologists as well as historians with PhD credentials would be happy to educate you with the truth backed by scientific and tangible factual evidence. Your "cultural appropriation" towards Eritrea will not be tolerated and will be reported to RUclips as a "hate speech". Long live Eritrea 🇪🇷.
@@hiddenhist listen kid, my sources are veterans and sons of veterans who lived at that time including my great grandfather who fought the enemy, we have written factual military documents and proven historical records archived by Eritrean PhD scholars. The wars took place in my home-town a few minutes away from Asmara. So listen kid, if you are referring the "Ethiopian" version of fairytale historical account of this self fulfilling bs prophecy of false history, then I have to inform you that you are insulting your own intelligence, I'm sure you believe in the Easter-bunny and the tooth fairy as well. You can't escape from facts and the truth, if you have a brain then go to Asmara and educate yourself.🇪🇷💪🏽
Damn ! Ethiopians have no chill whatsoever; I can't believe they fought Italians, Sudanese and Egyptians in such a small period without getting conquered.
The Sudanese mahadist chose not to stay, ethiopians make it seem that they never got defeated. The mahadist plundered the heartland of Ethiopia in Gondar and destroyed every church in that city. They also killed Yohannis IV and decapitated him, you don't hear of these by them tho
@Tamrat Zeyede My point is that ethiopia was not untouchable as it is made to seem. The Sudanese didn't come with the intent to conquer but punish as they collaborated with the British/Egyptians who were our enemy and who we was fighting at the time.
@Tamrat Zeyede I respect your honesty and unbiasedness. I have come across many Ethiopians denying the fact they were defeated at gallabat and that menelik somehow killed Yohannis. And you are right we could have been a force to recon with, unfortunately we had many enemies. It was the turko-egyptian British forces against the Sudanese, and the battle of gallabat I believe was a retaliatory response by the Sudanese because the Ethiopians evacuated the British soldiers in kasala. I am not denying the fact that mahadist have set their eyes on imperialism and conquering as they bit more than they can chew, attempting to conquer Egypt and ethiopian while having fought alot of battles already against the British. Anyway have a nice day bro
@TOMPMATHEWOFFICIAL But if you won the battle how can you loose it. How did the mahadist decimate the entire ethiopian army at that battle. Even killed nobles close to Yohannis. If you was winning and had more soldiers, explain to me this, how do you let a loosing force kill most of your soldiers, generals,.steal your kings carcass, behead and bring back to Khartoum. Sounds to me like the ethiopians lost
ATSE SHADE I’ll take that into consideration in later videos! As of now, I’m a bit conflicted on which flag to use. I suppose I’ll use the 3 colored pennants instead.
I was asking many historians if the could tell us about the battle of Gondet saddenly I just got your channel while I was looking for the Dogali battle. Thank you so much by the way I am from the Gondet too Very interesting story
This will not happen in the first place, because Egypt was established before Ethiopia, and all of its wars were in the east, not the south, and this war was not between you and the Egyptian army.
Great playlist about Ethiopia's military history. Will you combine all the video's of the playlist into a long documentary video? that would be super great!
he was traitor who make tewdros to die and the grandson haileselasse gugusa was also traitor who sidede with italy not emperor hailess. this one is another ,unfortunately both died in bad way yohannes by sudans and gugusa by prison for his betrayal
@@the_fam lmao....Tewodros was literally committing genocide upon the Ethiopians and even captured british people for a stupid reason. And its not Yohannes' fault that his great granson would betray ethiopia, when Yohannes was a patriot aswell as many of his descendants lmao.
Ethiopians have actually had a couple more battles with the Egyptians Emperor Seyfe Arad moved against Egypt after the imprisonment of the Alexandrian Patriarch. Emperor Dawit II (Dawit I in foreign sources)reached Aswan in upper Egypt causing much havoc. Also Yohannes IV's army may have exceeded 70,000 because the conflict was depicted as a religious battle and men from all over the country had come to protect their country (aside from the imperial army which was as you said largely from tigray and Hamasien )
I agree with this, but sources I've read indicate that it was Gura where a massive amount of people from around the country rallied together to fight, not Gondet.
@@nothinginterestinghere.8335 wel we where we beat egypt two times and the ottman and Egypt as republic and Italians also mhadist in a short period of time
@@tihitenanegash6660 Well,Your about 9 years old so you say alot of shit,I have no time for you,I'm going to try and be respectful for Ethiopians next time.
Mr Hiddenhistory Why don't u say history of tegaru or tigray & Eritrea? Why u said mostly? There wasn't even one from other all of them are tigrinians. at gura gundet sehati kufit etc
I just only saw your tube today,where have it been man? I appreciate your work here man! This is what happend in reality and but Egyptians still boast without doing any significant thing against Ethiopia .Even now with all their smuggled weaponry can't defeat the courageous Ethiopians!! They better make paece with Ethiopia and get peacefully the ABAY(Nile) water.That is the only way to win Ethiopia,with Love and cooperation .!
@@hiddenhist It is so true that they the so called democracy 'owners' make this shameful distinctions and one sidedness for the benefit of their interests and contradict their own democray.
@@vitaminprotein6878 He's unquestionably the best king in Ethiopian history. He was one of the best diplomats, the best conqueror, the best reformist ethiopia has ever had. Name one king that even comes close and give me the reasons why. Also the fact that u said he was hiding in a church tells me u know nothing about history because there are many accounts of him ordering his generals.
This isn't Ethiopia and Egypt war, but more like a war between the Tigre kingdom and Khediv pasha dynasty of Othoman. Ethiopia and Egypt as a unified nation did not exist at this time.
Egypt was near a point of defacto independence at this point, and yohannes' official title was Emperor of Ethiopia; he had (still not completely solid) rulership over the major lords.
@@hiddenhist So that's my point, "defacto" independence doesn't make it fully independent. Yes you are right about Yohannes, but still the war mainly revolves around his "Kingdom" (Tigre and Afar) Since only his force fought on this war, we can hardly call it Nation to Nation conflict.
@@teddyissak2720 ok, but Im not using either country in the sense of "nations"; Africa "nations states" don't exist at this point in history, so anyone who makes it so is engaging in extreme projection. At the end of the day, the man's still "emperor of Ethiopia", and he's recognized as such, if tacitly at the beginning of this debacle, by the other lords.
@@hiddenhist Thanks, that's good response. Many people tend to forget or ignore the fact that, Nation formation is fairly a new concept with in this continent. appreciate your effort on clearing that up. Not disagreeing with your Video, I just wrote that comment cuz I was feeling a bit perplexed by all these nationalist clashing over here (as if these conflicts had any direct personal impact on them)
@@teddyissak2720 I made a attempt to portray the complex political climate of the region, but I guess I was not only limited by time but also that I didn't do a good enough job. Then again, I guess some things are unavoidable...
@@hiddenhist i did, smartass. Your own source (Jesman, 1959) puts it at between 80-100,000. Seemed like you “logic’d” your way into misrepresenting history to create drama. Even with Ras Alula’s brilliance as a tactician it would make no conceivable sense that the Ethiopians (who weren’t as well equipped as the Egyptians and Italians) could fight on MULTIPLE fronts, especially with the losses in the Mahdist campaign. Mind you, Jesman (1959), mentions that in the Battle of Gura the Ethiopians fielded 50,000. That’s more than you claimed the entire campaign had! Do I have to read your sources for you? African history is amazing and stories of valour and heroism are a plenty, but pop-historians like you ruin a good subject.
@@ShehuStebe Spot on bro, this guy waffles about other peoples history. I my self being half Ethi/Eri, saw contradictions in his documentaries, but brushed it aside thinking "White boy error" since a white guy is trying to tell african history LMAO, until i found him chatting shit in the comments too😅😅
@@landofcivilization7894 That isn't true. You have a wrong information. Come with truth. In addition your people came with modern advanced weapons. You have to be balanced. And all those soldiers are not going to fight half of them are going to fight.
@@landofcivilization7894 You came up with British modern weapons than can take 80 to 100 people by one fire. It isn't easy man to fight with traditional weapons like sheild, spear and sword and with equal number of 25,000 soldiers as Egyptians are.
@@ahmedsaeedbj If it is Ethiopia history tell me who fight in battle gura, gundet, dogali,senhit etc is there any amhara, oromo or other instead they were side wiz them
while the ending of the story is true as an ethiopian and a blood relation to king yohanese z 4ths mother most of this story i find it not true...for starter minliks shewa was part of ethiopia even tho he wanted to be a king of kings he accepeted king of kings yohanes ruling even tho he will betray him latter with the war with the mahadists ..and yohaneses personal behavior isnt the one that would look for peace once u triggerd war and for this u can take the result of the war for example most of the soldiers of egypt and turks were killed and the message yohanes and alula sent to the egypts telling them he would come for them...
There was no Ethiopia that time. This the Tigrinya people now living in eritrea and tigray and all those places gundet dogali hamasyen is in eritrea. And it is the menelik and italy to divide the tgrigna people the so called Ethiopia is bulshit
Joke post ^. Do you think yohannes called the empire he was in control of "tigray"? No. He called it "Ethiopia". An imperial state having different borders and regions of control to a modern country is literally the least remarkable thing but sure man.
@@hiddenhist M8, Yohannes lived in Tigray, spoke Tigrigna. And He was king of Tigray until 1871. he NEVER referred to the abeysinian empire as "Ethiopia" not even once, no King/emperor has ever, stop your cap.The points mentioned by @eritrawimalet went over your head, that's why you did not address them, all you did was equivalent to blah blah blah, waffling out of your arse. "He called it Ethiopia" 🤣🤣 source please
@@Rico18777 he absolutely referred to the country as "Ethiopia" because this was a historic name, in use since the Aksumite era. Read any of Ezana's inscriptions after his conversion to Christianity, and look at the name he uses for the state. "Ethiopia". During the middle ages, the Kebra Nagast was written as an attempt, in part, to tie the medieval Ethiopian state to the Aksumite state... guess which name it uses in reference to the realm? This notion was further ensconced in the Book of Aksum -- which alludes to a legendary king "Ityopia", from which the text argued the name of the state originated. The idea that overaching empire and state wdre called anything other than "Ethiopia" in indigenous sources, is against the history of the matter. Muslims (Jabartis, etc) may have used the term "Al Habasha" or "Habasha" or "Habash"... but that is IT. NO WHERE here am I making the claim that modern Ethiopia then has right over Eritrea simply because (part of) modern Eritrea was historically part of an older state that shared the same name, "Ethiopia"... so if you and all the other people spamming my comments are mad because you think I'm saying that -- I'm not. I'm also not going to deny basic historical realities though.
@@hiddenhist Source m8??? I was born and taught in Ethiopia. So stop waffling to me and give me your source, where did ANY king refer to my country as "Ethiopia" before Haile Selasie?? I will wait 😎
This occupation was under Ottoman rule. The Turks did not Egypt. Did you know that Egypt has fought more than 700 times and will not be defeated in 12 bass?
If you read your history properly Ethiopians had defeated Egypt more than 13 times. That’s without including the time of the pharaohs, where the 18th dynasty was Ethiopian
You are right, but You got to excuse us because Ethiopian education system is extremely low to the point that they can't comprehend what you're stating here.
This isn't really hidden. I heard about this in several books. Ethiopian victories came because they did their best to modernize despite their lower technology. Not really hidden there.
@@teddyissak2720 Yes it did. The Ethiopian Empire began in 1270. I think you are confused. I believe you are thinking of Axum the ancient empire prior to the existence of the Ethiopian Empire.
@@Fatherofheroesandheroines That's Abbysinian empire. Totally diferent from modern Ethiopia. differen location, different landscape, different seat of government, different autocratic system and most importantly totally different ethnic constituents.
@@teddyissak2720 🤣🤣🤣Cut it kid do you expect us to call Somali Ethiopia this is Ethiopia and the fighters are Ethiopia, from different part of the country, There was no eritrea during this time period. Eritrea is a modern country spawned from an an Italian colony named after the ancient 'Erythrean' sea. The region of land that now forms Eritrea was split into multiple political entities, including Beni Amer pastoralists, Bogos highlands, coastal cities like Massawa, and inland provinces like Hamacien. It is true that the Ottomans had on and off control over Massawa for a while, but they seldom if ever extended their influence into inland provinces, which sometimes enjoyed independent under the Medri Bahri kingdom, and sometimes were subject to the will of the Ethiopian empire farther south. By the reign of Yohannes though, the kingdom was put under indirect and then direct Ethiopian control through Ras Alula. Please stop arguing false history.
Gundet is Eritea .the batle is among egypt with bahrenegash agaianst ethiopia emporior ethiopia minilik.egypt with bahrenegash was won .this is our history not for Ethiopia
@@TabiF-i5t You know what's funny as well, the truth comes out at the end. Ethiopia before was a small country not as we know it now with your fake history and stolen lands. Your leaders are known to hide in England from war and battles while Eritreans win the war🤣, this fake Ethiopia can never say they defeated Eritreans lol.
@@Rico18777 still buddy no one knows you. you can yell but it is our history. Eritreans are only involved in Ethio-Eritrea war which is also Ethiopia's victory. that is your only history mate calm down hhhh. you were born some 30 or 40 years ago and you want to talk about history??? know your place.
Pretty amazing how all those places are in Eritrea LOL, They don't even speak Amharic, they spoke Tigrigna. But it is fine, since it is a white person who made the doc, and i wouldn't expect him to know anything more than Ethiopia when it comes to our history, it is better that way lol.
@@Rico18777 ironic you're the one telling me I don't know anything. Are you really telling me the people in Ethiopian Empire only spoke Amharic? The same empire whose church used Ge'ez as a liturgical language, whose northern populations (in Tigray) spoke Tigrayan, whose realm included Oromos, Agaws, Afars, and so on? There were no Gurages in the empire? Hararis and other merchants did not sometimes emigrate there? It was just an Amharinnya speaking state through and through according to you, and you believe everyone in it must have been amhara, otherwise they were not in it. What an egregious belief. Also, are you the one mad at me for using the name "Ethiopia"? Even if you want to call it something else... The point is that there was a state in the area that had people speaking all these languages. It was ethnically diverse. So why is it important that you bring up languages? You realize the Roman empire had people speaking more languages than Latin, right? Arabs, Aramaic speakers, Greek speakers, Germanic speakers, Etruscans, Iberians... It had emperors from Africa and the Middle East. Anyway, my sources are in the description; I always cite them. Maybe also check "Ethiopia, Nubia and the Crusading world", and "Medieval Ethiopian Kingship, Craft, and Diplomacy with Latin Europe." Both texts discuss the name "Ethiopia", if I recall. Hey, it might even be talked about in the "Handbook to Medieval Ethiopia and Eritrea". I haven't gone through the whole thing though to see if there's a chapter on it there.
@@hiddenhist Bro 🙃, now you are arguing with yourself lol. WHEN did I say "people in Ethiopian empire only spoke Amharic or i expected them"?, when there's hundreds of other languages lol, funny enough H selassie tried to force Amharic on the oromos, that didn't turn out well, they hate him till now 😅. The whole point is, You can not refer to "Ethiopia" when speaking about Yohannes or any other king, because there was no such thing at that time, you won't find the word in any ancient Ge'ez, Amharic,Tigrinya and Tigre languages, and it is only those languages and their people that ruled Axumite empire, NO OTHER people!!. Ge'ez was the official language of Axum, Tigrinya and Tigre have more similarity to it than Amharic (Although related), everything points 👉 to Tigray and Eritrea. Even in your documentary you will notice there was no such empire at the time of Tewdros, just a bunch of kings trying to claim power by force and build their own new axum and pretend it is still the same empire, which has failed miserably from then to now, hence they still fighting now, this is not some new war that just started, LMAO I don't remember when the last time there was peace throughout the whole Modern Ethiopia/Eritrea. The real Axum empire (Which is heavily Tigrinya ppl) ended around the 10th century, The Agaw picked it up in 13th century and called it Zagwe dynasty 🧐. If you can't connect the dots I can't help you m8.
How is this Ethiopian history when infact that Gura and gundet located in modren day Eritrea, don't you all Ethiopians mainly (amahara) says we never have been colonised because we defeat Italians in Adwa 🤨. this is Tigrayn or Agazinian people history!
@@hiddenhist he was emperor of Abyssinia there was no such thing as Ethiopia at that time, Ethiopia was formed in 1890 just like Eritrea. There 100 + ethincs Only tigrigna people mainly from Hammasien, Seraye Akeleguzai Agame, fought this battle. So it's safe to say this belong to tigrigna people not Ethiopians or Eritreans.
@@Simon-vk2lr abyssinia was an exonym for the Ethiopian empire. Abyssinia is arguably a far more ethnocentric word to "ethiopia", given that people often use "abyssinian" to specifically denote their ideas of "habesha" peoples, whatever those ideas may be.
You got one fact massively wrong. Wodemichael Solomon was king of medri Bahir kingdom in current day Eritrea. They were independent from Ethiopia. This is reinforced by the fact that they had wars with King Yohannes. They only time they experienced peace was when they decided to join forces to fight the Ottomans.
Were they not, at this point, under the jurisdiction of yohannes? This is what all of the sources that I have read state or heavily imply. It would also make no sense for Ras Alula to have been appointed the _Ras_ of these territories if they were not under the control of the Ethiopians.
HiddenHistory They were under Yohannes jurisdiction just before the battle of the battle with the Mahdist in Sudan. At that point Ras Alula was governor/chief of the region. That was after he tricked and imprisoned the previous leader Ras Woldmichael. This caused other issues as Solomon's son in law escaped imprisonment and helped the Italians in their ambitions to colonise Eritrea and other parts of East Africa. Obviously at the time the son in law only wanted revenge and didn't realise the motives the Italians had in mind. After the Mahdist killed Yohannes in battle, Ras Alula left the Eritrean region that he was governing defenceless. Thus Bahta Hagos took over and tried to raise and army to defeat the Italians. After 3 or 4 battles he died in battle (Hagos). That marked the end of any leaders within Eritrean territory. Italians would later be defeated by Menelik in Adawa but the Italians were already weakened allowing the Ethiopians to dominate them. And Eritrea would become one of Italy's first colonies in Africa.
Tesfai Mesfin wolde mikael was replaced by alula, who was under the control of yohannes, because wolde mikael solomon turned coat, siding with the egyptians during the invasion. This is attested to by the british-egyptian sources themselves.
HiddenHistory "The Scottish traveler James Bruce reported in 1770 that Medri Bahri was a distinct political entity from Abyssinia, noting that the two territories were frequently in conflict. The kingdom was eventually occupied in 1879, when Ras Alula seized control of the region and imprisoned Woldemichael Solomon, the last Bahr Negash. Alula, as governour of Mareb Mellash under the sovereignty of the Ethiopian Empire, organized the resistance against the steadily enroaching Italians and eventually even defeated them at Dogali in 1887. Woldemichael Solomon was sent to the Amba Salama prison with his son Masfen and his son-in-law Kaffal Goffar. However, Kaffal, the son-in-law of Woldemichael Solomon continued the rebellion against the Ethiopian Empire by siding with the Italians in 1885. In 1888, Woldemichael Solomon had tried to urge his son-in-law to bring the Italians up to the highlands. By 1889 Alula was, however, forced to retreat to Tigray and the region that once constituted the kingdom of Medri Bahri fell to the Italians, who proclaimed it as a part of Italian Eritrea in 1890.[15][16]"
Tesfai Mesfin he reported this in 1770. this video takes place in the 1870s. That traveler is not relevant to this discussion, given that im discussing 19th century history, not 18th century history, and yohannes had control of these territories in the 1870s.
Mohammed Glal the mehandists didn’t kill King Yohannes...Yohannes was actually shot by one of emperor Menelik’s men during the battle of Kufit (as his strategy to take the crown become neguse negest ie king of kings ) seeing that their king was badly wounded emperor Yohannes’s army was forced to retreat to begemidir and then dispensed shortly after knowing that he would die emperor Yohannes named his sucessor Ras Leul (prince) mengesha as his heir...after the news of the Kings death reached the mehandists they decided invade begemidir and destroy the remaining force of royal army. the mahandists sacked begemidir decapitated the corpse of the dead King and fled back to Sudan......but I could care less about what happened then what gets in my nerves is the fact that king Menelik and King teklehaymanot killed Emperor Yohannes and no one knows about it
That is just a pile of rubbish!!! Yohannes IV was a great King and warrior. Menelik was a great King and warrior. I don't know what your tribalist narrow minded ancestors from the TPLF get out of spreading lies about Menelik!?!? Grow up and think for yourself man!
Dear HiddenHistory: 🇪🇷 1. there was no country called "Ethiopia" in 1875. Rather, there were fragmented autonomous sovereign kingdoms in that part of the world wit their respective names. Keep in mind, the so called country with the name "Ethiopia" was formed in 1906. FACTS. 🇪🇷 2. the area that was invaded by the "Egyptians" was "Medri Bahri kingdom of Hamasien" (aka modern day Eritrea), and it was an autonomous sovereign kingdom at that time with its own king and its own army. 🇪🇷 3. the Egyptians were defeated by King Weldemikael of Medri Bahri kingdom of Hamasien (current day Eritrea). 🇪🇷 Therefore, please get your facts together and don't feed us this "Afrocentric / Eurocentric" driven bs narrative. If you want to learn facts, go visit the Eritrean Museum in Asmara, and archeologists as well as historians with PhD credentials would be happy to educate you with the truth backed by scientific and tangible factual evidence. Your "cultural appropriation" towards Eritrea will not be tolerated and will be reported to RUclips as a "hate speech". Long live Eritrea 🇪🇷.
I want to advise people to never go to Ethiopia or Africa country i went in ethopie capital Addis Ababa and tigray it was the worst vacation ever they didn't treat my with respect they tried to rob my in ethopie and do dirty things in my food wen I went in restaurant in Addis ababa in kirkos i want people to advise to travel in European countrys or Dubai you can enjoy you're vacation and many ethopians say they never were colonized it's not true if you honest looking what it's true many army's colonized ethopie country like ottoman empire and Arabs Egypt Saudi Italians did defeat ethopians because they enter the country and it's was more lost on the ethopians side and btw the language of ethopie it's not from ethopie it's from Yemen original ethopians say that it's the language Amharic and Tigrinya it's from ethopie that not true it's from Yemen original they take it in the Aksum times wen they enter to Yemen they take the language and culture of Yemen that why it's look more middle eastern culture and some words and the food like sambosa it's from Yemen original .
please stop. that is not from ethiopian history. that is from eritrean or from tigriyna history. yowhans and alulu was not ethiopian .he was in eritrean hamasies.en made with egypt and with itallie and with otomand earring
no. Yohannes crowned himself as ‘emperor of ethiopia’, and ruled over that empire; so even assuming your claims are correct, this is still ethiopian history aswell. Because this series is centered around ethiopia, the series is called an ethiopian history series.
@@hiddenhist that is not true. because john's government was in mekel. and his jeneral alula lives in asmera. and his soldat were only tigriyna. he never know this ethiopian.and he never went to shiwa or to adis ababa.or to amhara oromo
@@eritreaneritrean1570 he... did go to Shewa. He interacted directly with Menelik multiple times during his reign - that's how the Leche agreement was made in 1878, for example. Yohannes moved his capitol many times - but regardless Mekelle is _in Ethiopia_ . Your point is moot. Amhara and Oromo are not the only ethnicities in Ethiopia.
eritrean eritrean......... let me tell you they are ethiopians from your statments. first, yohannes iv died in metema, is it neithrer in tigray nor in bahre negash. Ras Alula fought at the battle of Adwa under the rule of menelik ii. but you eritreans do not want accept ethiopia's civilization and greatness.....my advice to you is do not fight with truth, and until you reject your ethiopian citizenship, do not stick yourself with ethiopia's history becouse you already rejected it .
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Battlefield Map references:
Battlefield Map based off of "'For God, Emperor, and Country!' The Evolution of Ethiopia's Nineteenth-Century Army " - By John Dunn, from _War in History_ .
Oh, I forgot to mention this, all sources used in this video can be found in the description!
I fully recommend you check them out.
Sources: Cambridge History of Africa
UNESCO general history of Africa
Egyptian Invasion of Ethiopia - Czeslaw Jesman
The Egyptian-Abyssinian War of 1894-1876 - Arthor E Robinson
“For god, for emperor, for country!” - The Evolution of Ethiopia's Nineteenth Century Army - John Duhn
Ras Alula and the Scramble for Africa: A Political Biography: Ethiopia & Eritrea 1875 - 1897 - Haggai Erlich
A History of Ethiopia - Herald G Marcus
A confederate soldier in Egypt - W.W. Loring
War is not by history ...
It's by weapons
Egypt is stronger than the so called Ethiopia 👉👉ruclips.net/video/aawBAW_JGe4/видео.html
Dear HiddenHistory:
🇪🇷 1. there was no country called "Ethiopia" in 1875. Rather, there were fragmented autonomous sovereign kingdoms in that part of the world wit their respective names. Keep in mind, the so called country with the name "Ethiopia" was formed in 1906. FACTS.
🇪🇷 2. the area that was invaded by the "Egyptians" was "Medri Bahri kingdom of Hamasien" (aka modern day Eritrea), and it was an autonomous sovereign kingdom at that time with its own king and its own army.
🇪🇷 3. the Egyptians were defeated by King Weldemikael of Medri Bahri kingdom of Hamasien (current day Eritrea).
🇪🇷 Therefore, please get your facts together and don't feed us this "Afrocentric / Eurocentric" driven bs narrative. If you want to learn facts, go visit the Eritrean Museum in Asmara, and archeologists as well as historians with PhD credentials would be happy to educate you with the truth backed by scientific and tangible factual evidence. Your "cultural appropriation" towards Eritrea will not be tolerated and will be reported to RUclips as a "hate speech". Long live Eritrea 🇪🇷.
@@dandan3521 my sources include accounts by people who lived at the time, and PHD historians. You are free to see them, I do not hide them.
@@hiddenhist listen kid, my sources are veterans and sons of veterans who lived at that time including my great grandfather who fought the enemy, we have written factual military documents and proven historical records archived by Eritrean PhD scholars. The wars took place in my home-town a few minutes away from Asmara. So listen kid, if you are referring the "Ethiopian" version of fairytale historical account of this self fulfilling bs prophecy of false history, then I have to inform you that you are insulting your own intelligence, I'm sure you believe in the Easter-bunny and the tooth fairy as well. You can't escape from facts and the truth, if you have a brain then go to Asmara and educate yourself.🇪🇷💪🏽
Damn ! Ethiopians have no chill whatsoever; I can't believe they fought Italians, Sudanese and Egyptians in such a small period without getting conquered.
The Sudanese mahadist chose not to stay, ethiopians make it seem that they never got defeated. The mahadist plundered the heartland of Ethiopia in Gondar and destroyed every church in that city. They also killed Yohannis IV and decapitated him, you don't hear of these by them tho
@Tamrat Zeyede My point is that ethiopia was not untouchable as it is made to seem. The Sudanese didn't come with the intent to conquer but punish as they collaborated with the British/Egyptians who were our enemy and who we was fighting at the time.
@Tamrat Zeyede I respect your honesty and unbiasedness. I have come across many Ethiopians denying the fact they were defeated at gallabat and that menelik somehow killed Yohannis. And you are right we could have been a force to recon with, unfortunately we had many enemies. It was the turko-egyptian British forces against the Sudanese, and the battle of gallabat I believe was a retaliatory response by the Sudanese because the Ethiopians evacuated the British soldiers in kasala. I am not denying the fact that mahadist have set their eyes on imperialism and conquering as they bit more than they can chew, attempting to conquer Egypt and ethiopian while having fought alot of battles already against the British. Anyway have a nice day bro
@TOMPMATHEWOFFICIAL But if you won the battle how can you loose it. How did the mahadist decimate the entire ethiopian army at that battle. Even killed nobles close to Yohannis. If you was winning and had more soldiers, explain to me this, how do you let a loosing force kill most of your soldiers, generals,.steal your kings carcass, behead and bring back to Khartoum. Sounds to me like the ethiopians lost
@TOMPMATHEWOFFICIAL Yes but the mahadist ultimately won that battle
Merry Christmas guys! I’ve no idea why or how some of the editing came out so rough... it looked fine in previews. Oh well.
*Another impressive video!* One correction, that's the Menelik ም flag - which was used during Menelik's rule.
*Can't wait for part 2, Gura!*
ATSE SHADE I’ll take that into consideration in later videos! As of now, I’m a bit conflicted on which flag to use. I suppose I’ll use the 3 colored pennants instead.
@@hiddenhist You have it wrong, because you have to put Green and not red above the Yellow and Red under the Yellow.
@@eho6380 prior to Menelik's rule the order of the flag was actually reversed. It was red yellow green before.
ATSE SHADE
You are wrong during Yohhanes the flag was that way. Red, Yellow, Green.
No he is actually correct that flag was first used by emperor Yohannes menelik just stared using it after Yohannes died
I was asking many historians if the could tell us about the battle of Gondet saddenly I just got your channel while I was looking for the Dogali battle. Thank you so much by the way I am from the Gondet too
Very interesting story
Real history of the ethiopia old ethiopia 🇪🇹 💪💪💪💪
Why are you proud, are you not ashamed that 2500 Egyptian soldiers occupied parts of Ethiopia, and your number is 75,000😂😂😂😂
Old ethiopia 😭🤣🤣 stop the cap
@@abosakr1612 2500? You mean 0 cuz they all dead
@@abosakr1612 ur country weapon is modern support by american europe and ottoman but ethiopia is only one 1vs 3 shame on u
@@IsaiasLakewHonestly I don't understand how Egypt lost with advanced weapons then like now
A HiddenHistory upload, it really is Christmas!
Egyptian battled Ethiopia 18 times and Egyptians loses 18 times
You forgot the battle of Hornburg and Isengard.
@@teddyissak2720 you forgot the battle of the five armies
This will not happen in the first place, because Egypt was established before Ethiopia, and all of its wars were in the east, not the south, and this war was not between you and the Egyptian army.
not 18 only 1
ethiopian battled Egypt 18 times and ethiopians loses 18 times
Great playlist about Ethiopia's military history. Will you combine all the video's of the playlist into a long documentary video? that would be super great!
Thank you for these videos bro your the Best very Educational
Yohannes had the greatest cheekbones in the game and that's why he won.
Cheekbones?? Lmfao
he was traitor who make tewdros to die and the grandson haileselasse gugusa was also traitor who sidede with italy not emperor hailess. this one is another ,unfortunately both died in bad way yohannes by sudans and gugusa by prison for his betrayal
@@the_fam LOL so much hate
@@the_fam
Always crying amhara midre tenkalo
@@the_fam lmao....Tewodros was literally committing genocide upon the Ethiopians and even captured british people for a stupid reason. And its not Yohannes' fault that his great granson would betray ethiopia, when Yohannes was a patriot aswell as many of his descendants lmao.
Ethiopians have actually had a couple more battles with the Egyptians Emperor Seyfe Arad moved against Egypt after the imprisonment of the Alexandrian Patriarch. Emperor Dawit II (Dawit I in foreign sources)reached Aswan in upper Egypt causing much havoc. Also Yohannes IV's army may have exceeded 70,000 because the conflict was depicted as a religious battle and men from all over the country had come to protect their country (aside from the imperial army which was as you said largely from tigray and Hamasien )
I agree with this, but sources I've read indicate that it was Gura where a massive amount of people from around the country rallied together to fight, not Gondet.
@@hiddenhist ohhh true, you might be right on that one
not dawit II. it was dawit I.
Amazing video I hope to see more.
yo i have a final exam tomorrow and this really helps
Ethiopia so strong
That's a nice dream
@@nothinginterestinghere.8335 wel we where we beat egypt two times and the ottman and Egypt as republic and Italians also mhadist in a short period of time
@@tihitenanegash6660 Or even entering a Paralysis thing thing thingy
@@tihitenanegash6660 I understood nothing from that comment, Are you phisicly Alright?,Or even hit by a F5 power Storm.
@@tihitenanegash6660 Well,Your about 9 years old so you say alot of shit,I have no time for you,I'm going to try and be respectful for Ethiopians next time.
MUY BUEN VIDEO. GRACIAS, MUCHAS GRACIAS POR COMPARTIR LA HISTORIA DE ETIOPÍA DE FORMA AMENA E ILUSTRADA. Saludos desde Barinas, VENEZUELA.
"NOT" the boxer sure, we'll go with that
bro there is more war between ETHIOPIA and Egypt which Egypt lost all the time
Ok mr,Genius
You seem stupid ngl.
@@nothinginterestinghere.8335 It is true, perhaps you are the stupid
@@nothinginterestinghere.8335 what
@@nothinginterestinghere.8335 u came back a week later to say that the man is living in ur head rent free
We were born for vectory 💚💛❤💪💪💪
Why are you proud, are you not ashamed that 2500 Egyptian soldiers occupied parts of Ethiopia, and your number is 75,000😂😂😂😂
🇪🇷🇪🇹general alula aba nega beheaded your puppet Egypt ottoman Soldiers
Funny thing is that the map of the video in the beginning showing egypt already occupying half of modern day ethiopea.
Modern day Sudan watch map
@@rediettadesse2828 nope big chunk of ethiopea is occupied too.
No, that was around the borders. Ethiopia, however, would reconquer that plus move eastward years later.
This is Ottoman empire not (Egypt), the owner of this channel simply incorporated the revised History written by the british.
@@ma.s2386East part of Ethiopia was part of the Ottoman empire for hundreds of years. We all know that.
3 Egyptians disliked the video.
Idk why as an Egyptian i would dislike, that's the truth, we fell, Every ancient empire falls, so why wouldn't Egypt?
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I'm Eritrean but I don't like this video
ፌስ ቡክ well that cause your country doesn’t have it own history so you use Ethiopian history as your own🥱
@@Ramino92 kemika mish Eritrea kemzi aynet tarik sle zeybila 😅🤣
There was no country called during 1875. The narration is correct. Don't misled people.
@@HagereyMedia-q4o cope 🥶
Tewdros 2 wasn't actually succeed by yohanis 4...it was tekle giyorgis
Mr Hiddenhistory
Why don't u say history of tegaru or tigray & Eritrea? Why u said mostly?
There wasn't even one from other all of them are tigrinians.
at gura gundet sehati kufit etc
shut up.
I worked as a midwife in a remote area of Ethiopia in 2006
I just only saw your tube today,where have it been man? I appreciate your work here man! This is what happend in reality and but Egyptians still boast without doing any significant thing against Ethiopia .Even now with all their smuggled weaponry can't defeat the courageous Ethiopians!! They better make paece with Ethiopia and get peacefully the ABAY(Nile) water.That is the only way to win Ethiopia,with Love and cooperation .!
it’s a shame to see so many world powers resorting to threatening violence or actually engaging in it.
@@hiddenhist It is so true that they the so called democracy 'owners' make this shameful distinctions and one sidedness for the benefit of their interests and contradict their own democray.
Oh cool my mom is from Gundet and my Grandmother is also from Gundet.
🤩🤩probably her great grand parents fought in the battle...love Eritreans from Ethiopia
@@zeyo4064 that would be cool I’ll ask her
Interesting history
the province that is agame actually called bur which is both the historical province of akele guzay (eritrea) and agame
Ethiopia will strive again ! They once governed parts of India...that is why many of us ressemble Indians...
They can’t fight... We whipped a lot of them, East to west...They all got banged on!
hi very nice. can i ask where u find the sours tho
u can see it in the description
and what did menelik at this time, nothing he just tried to kill king yohannes
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He is the most undeserved overrated Ethiopian king ever, even in the ethio Italian war he was hiding in a church, while his wife fought
@@vitaminprotein6878 ???????
@@vitaminprotein6878 He's unquestionably the best king in Ethiopian history. He was one of the best diplomats, the best conqueror, the best reformist ethiopia has ever had. Name one king that even comes close and give me the reasons why.
Also the fact that u said he was hiding in a church tells me u know nothing about history because there are many accounts of him ordering his generals.
What was Yohannes doing when the british invaded ethiopia? Nothing he tried to kill tewdros
ethiopian battled Egypt 18 times and ethiopians loses 18 times
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Egypt has never won a war in its entire history making it the historical bottom 31tch
Is the remington rifle mentioned the rolling block rifle
Ethiopian are winners
Why are you proud, are you not ashamed that 2500 Egyptian soldiers occupied parts of Ethiopia, and your number is 75,000😂😂😂😂
@@abosakr1612 Egyptians have lost all wars vs ethiopia
Respect
What is wrong with u u inverted the flag of ethiopia
This isn't Ethiopia and Egypt war, but more like a war between the Tigre kingdom and Khediv pasha dynasty of Othoman. Ethiopia and Egypt as a unified nation did not exist at this time.
Egypt was near a point of defacto independence at this point, and yohannes' official title was Emperor of Ethiopia; he had (still not completely solid) rulership over the major lords.
@@hiddenhist So that's my point, "defacto" independence doesn't make it fully independent. Yes you are right about Yohannes, but still the war mainly revolves around his "Kingdom" (Tigre and Afar) Since only his force fought on this war, we can hardly call it Nation to Nation conflict.
@@teddyissak2720 ok, but Im not using either country in the sense of "nations"; Africa "nations states" don't exist at this point in history, so anyone who makes it so is engaging in extreme projection. At the end of the day, the man's still "emperor of Ethiopia", and he's recognized as such, if tacitly at the beginning of this debacle, by the other lords.
@@hiddenhist Thanks, that's good response. Many people tend to forget or ignore the fact that, Nation formation is fairly a new concept with in this continent. appreciate your effort on clearing that up. Not disagreeing with your Video, I just wrote that comment cuz I was feeling a bit perplexed by all these nationalist clashing over here (as if these conflicts had any direct personal impact on them)
@@teddyissak2720 I made a attempt to portray the complex political climate of the region, but I guess I was not only limited by time but also that I didn't do a good enough job. Then again, I guess some things are unavoidable...
Where did you get this map ?
why's it always the conquest of ethiopia when they lost??? it's more the embaressment of egypt
"Oh shit they got guns"
Everyone who's tried to fight ethiopia ever
Ethiopia did not exist at this time !!!
@@teddyissak2720 yes. it did.
@@teddyissak2720 ጀዝባ
history repeating it self
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Why are you proud, are you not ashamed that 2500 Egyptian soldiers occupied parts of Ethiopia, and your number is 75,000😂😂😂😂
This is not Ethiopian victory. This battle is between the Tigres and Othomans.
@@abosakr1612 Those aren't Egyptians but Turks and Albanians.
@@teddyissak2720 you wish banda 😂
What? Literally no one claims that the Ethiopians had less than 70,000 warriors.
sources in description, read.
@@hiddenhist i did, smartass. Your own source (Jesman, 1959) puts it at between 80-100,000. Seemed like you “logic’d” your way into misrepresenting history to create drama. Even with Ras Alula’s brilliance as a tactician it would make no conceivable sense that the Ethiopians (who weren’t as well equipped as the Egyptians and Italians) could fight on MULTIPLE fronts, especially with the losses in the Mahdist campaign. Mind you, Jesman (1959), mentions that in the Battle of Gura the Ethiopians fielded 50,000. That’s more than you claimed the entire campaign had! Do I have to read your sources for you? African history is amazing and stories of valour and heroism are a plenty, but pop-historians like you ruin a good subject.
@@ShehuStebe Spot on bro, this guy waffles about other peoples history. I my self being half Ethi/Eri, saw contradictions in his documentaries, but brushed it aside thinking "White boy error" since a white guy is trying to tell african history LMAO, until i found him chatting shit in the comments too😅😅
Ethiopia stronk!
@Carl Johnson Be quiet you soviet sympathizer.
This is so hilarious 🤣
Egypt is trying at it again
2500 soldiers managed to conquer parts of Ethiopia vs 75.000 soldiers lol, reminds me of 300 movie 😂
@@user-rc5oi5nc7y 75.000 vs 2500 in era all rifles were same and equal, again reminds of 300 story
They will get more than the previous one. Hhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
@@landofcivilization7894 That isn't true. You have a wrong information. Come with truth. In addition your people came with modern advanced weapons. You have to be balanced. And all those soldiers are not going to fight half of them are going to fight.
@@landofcivilization7894 You came up with British modern weapons than can take 80 to 100 people by one fire. It isn't easy man to fight with traditional weapons like sheild, spear and sword and with equal number of 25,000 soldiers as Egyptians are.
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if you would like to read small amount abt it search ethiopian grade 10 textbook pdf and read 30 to 60
Well it's because of geography
They got the mountains
It is Gundet not Gondet.
History of Tegaru
History of all Ethiopians*
@@ahmedsaeedbj
If it is Ethiopia history tell me who fight in battle gura, gundet, dogali,senhit etc is there any amhara, oromo or other instead they were side wiz them
@@degenfutsum7874 read history
@@ethiopiaspy1816 u need to read history wtf
you people are crazy. you think his army was only tigrainas? he clearly had a declaration for ethiopian kings upto shewa to send troops. WTH
Ethiopan debgersi fore evera
while the ending of the story is true as an ethiopian and a blood relation to king yohanese z 4ths mother most of this story i find it not true...for starter minliks shewa was part of ethiopia even tho he wanted to be a king of kings he accepeted king of kings yohanes ruling even tho he will betray him latter with the war with the mahadists ..and yohaneses personal behavior isnt the one that would look for peace once u triggerd war and for this u can take the result of the war for example most of the soldiers of egypt and turks were killed and the message yohanes and alula sent to the egypts telling them he would come for them...
There was no Ethiopia that time. This the Tigrinya people now living in eritrea and tigray and all those places gundet dogali hamasyen is in eritrea. And it is the menelik and italy to divide the tgrigna people the so called Ethiopia is bulshit
Joke post ^. Do you think yohannes called the empire he was in control of "tigray"? No. He called it "Ethiopia". An imperial state having different borders and regions of control to a modern country is literally the least remarkable thing but sure man.
@@hiddenhist thank u brother
@@hiddenhist M8, Yohannes lived in Tigray, spoke Tigrigna. And He was king of Tigray until 1871. he NEVER referred to the abeysinian empire as "Ethiopia" not even once, no King/emperor has ever, stop your cap.The points mentioned by @eritrawimalet went over your head, that's why you did not address them, all you did was equivalent to blah blah blah, waffling out of your arse. "He called it Ethiopia" 🤣🤣 source please
@@Rico18777 he absolutely referred to the country as "Ethiopia" because this was a historic name, in use since the Aksumite era. Read any of Ezana's inscriptions after his conversion to Christianity, and look at the name he uses for the state. "Ethiopia". During the middle ages, the Kebra Nagast was written as an attempt, in part, to tie the medieval Ethiopian state to the Aksumite state... guess which name it uses in reference to the realm? This notion was further ensconced in the Book of Aksum -- which alludes to a legendary king "Ityopia", from which the text argued the name of the state originated. The idea that overaching empire and state wdre called anything other than "Ethiopia" in indigenous sources, is against the history of the matter. Muslims (Jabartis, etc) may have used the term "Al Habasha" or "Habasha" or "Habash"... but that is IT. NO WHERE here am I making the claim that modern Ethiopia then has right over Eritrea simply because (part of) modern Eritrea was historically part of an older state that shared the same name, "Ethiopia"... so if you and all the other people spamming my comments are mad because you think I'm saying that -- I'm not. I'm also not going to deny basic historical realities though.
@@hiddenhist Source m8???
I was born and taught in Ethiopia. So stop waffling to me and give me your source, where did ANY king refer to my country as "Ethiopia" before Haile Selasie?? I will wait 😎
OOF
So knowbody will ever give ras woldmichel his cresit
This occupation was under Ottoman rule. The Turks did not Egypt. Did you know that Egypt has fought more than 700 times and will not be defeated in 12 bass?
If you read your history properly Ethiopians had defeated Egypt more than 13 times. That’s without including the time of the pharaohs, where the 18th dynasty was Ethiopian
The Turks colonised Egypt the pasha of Egypt was chosen by the Turks😭
You are right, but You got to excuse us because Ethiopian education system is extremely low to the point that they can't comprehend what you're stating here.
@@habtesh22 Your His-story teacher is dumb as a rock.
Egypt always lose the war when it is with Ethiopia
This isn't really hidden. I heard about this in several books. Ethiopian victories came because they did their best to modernize despite their lower technology. Not really hidden there.
It's not "Ethiopian Victory". Ethiopia did not exist at this time.
@@teddyissak2720 Yes it did. The Ethiopian Empire began in 1270. I think you are confused. I believe you are thinking of Axum the ancient empire prior to the existence of the Ethiopian Empire.
@@Fatherofheroesandheroines That's Abbysinian empire. Totally diferent from modern Ethiopia. differen location, different landscape, different seat of government, different autocratic system and most importantly totally different ethnic constituents.
@@teddyissak2720 🤣🤣🤣Cut it kid do you expect us to call Somali Ethiopia this is Ethiopia and the fighters are Ethiopia, from different part of the country, There was no eritrea during this time period. Eritrea is a modern country spawned from an an Italian colony named after the ancient 'Erythrean' sea. The region of land that now forms Eritrea was split into multiple political entities, including Beni Amer pastoralists, Bogos highlands, coastal cities like Massawa, and inland provinces like Hamacien.
It is true that the Ottomans had on and off control over Massawa for a while, but they seldom if ever extended their influence into inland provinces, which sometimes enjoyed independent under the Medri Bahri kingdom, and sometimes were subject to the will of the Ethiopian empire farther south. By the reign of Yohannes though, the kingdom was put under indirect and then direct Ethiopian control through Ras Alula. Please stop arguing false history.
wrong flag
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Gundet is Eritea .the batle is among egypt with bahrenegash agaianst ethiopia emporior ethiopia minilik.egypt with bahrenegash was won .this is our history not for Ethiopia
You know whats funny is that eirtea dodnt exist back them it was ethiopia. Nobody knows eirtea
@@TabiF-i5t You know what's funny as well, the truth comes out at the end. Ethiopia before was a small country not as we know it now with your fake history and stolen lands. Your leaders are known to hide in England from war and battles while Eritreans win the war🤣, this fake Ethiopia can never say they defeated Eritreans lol.
@@TabiF-i5t even today who knows them?? funny camel people
@@Rico18777 still buddy no one knows you. you can yell but it is our history. Eritreans are only involved in Ethio-Eritrea war which is also Ethiopia's victory. that is your only history mate calm down hhhh. you were born some 30 or 40 years ago and you want to talk about history??? know your place.
Ottomanic Egypt was abusing, I am Egyptian and i say it was
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Pretty amazing how all those places are in Eritrea LOL, They don't even speak Amharic, they spoke Tigrigna. But it is fine, since it is a white person who made the doc, and i wouldn't expect him to know anything more than Ethiopia when it comes to our history, it is better that way lol.
@@Rico18777 me after reading this comment: 👴🏻
@@hiddenhist Me after watching your documentary: 🙈🥱😂🤣😴 🛌
You're still: 👩🏻🦲👩🦲👩🏻🦲🤡
Know your stuff before waffling out of your arse 😉
@@Rico18777 ironic you're the one telling me I don't know anything. Are you really telling me the people in Ethiopian Empire only spoke Amharic? The same empire whose church used Ge'ez as a liturgical language, whose northern populations (in Tigray) spoke Tigrayan, whose realm included Oromos, Agaws, Afars, and so on? There were no Gurages in the empire? Hararis and other merchants did not sometimes emigrate there? It was just an Amharinnya speaking state through and through according to you, and you believe everyone in it must have been amhara, otherwise they were not in it. What an egregious belief.
Also, are you the one mad at me for using the name "Ethiopia"? Even if you want to call it something else... The point is that there was a state in the area that had people speaking all these languages. It was ethnically diverse. So why is it important that you bring up languages? You realize the Roman empire had people speaking more languages than Latin, right? Arabs, Aramaic speakers, Greek speakers, Germanic speakers, Etruscans, Iberians... It had emperors from Africa and the Middle East.
Anyway, my sources are in the description; I always cite them. Maybe also check "Ethiopia, Nubia and the Crusading world", and "Medieval Ethiopian Kingship, Craft, and Diplomacy with Latin Europe." Both texts discuss the name "Ethiopia", if I recall. Hey, it might even be talked about in the "Handbook to Medieval Ethiopia and Eritrea". I haven't gone through the whole thing though to see if there's a chapter on it there.
You fear Facts like most Nationalist
Give any reputable Source on anything you said especially “they don’t even speak Amharic”…
@@hiddenhist Bro 🙃, now you are arguing with yourself lol. WHEN did I say "people in Ethiopian empire only spoke Amharic or i expected them"?, when there's hundreds of other languages lol, funny enough H selassie tried to force Amharic on the oromos, that didn't turn out well, they hate him till now 😅.
The whole point is, You can not refer to "Ethiopia" when speaking about Yohannes or any other king, because there was no such thing at that time, you won't find the word in any ancient Ge'ez, Amharic,Tigrinya and Tigre languages, and it is only those languages and their people that ruled Axumite empire, NO OTHER people!!. Ge'ez was the official language of Axum, Tigrinya and Tigre have more similarity to it than Amharic (Although related), everything points 👉 to Tigray and Eritrea. Even in your documentary you will notice there was no such empire at the time of Tewdros, just a bunch of kings trying to claim power by force and build their own new axum and pretend it is still the same empire, which has failed miserably from then to now, hence they still fighting now, this is not some new war that just started, LMAO I don't remember when the last time there was peace throughout the whole Modern Ethiopia/Eritrea. The real Axum empire (Which is heavily Tigrinya ppl) ended around the 10th century, The Agaw picked it up in 13th century and called it Zagwe dynasty 🧐.
If you can't connect the dots I can't help you m8.
How is this Ethiopian history when infact that Gura and gundet located in modren day Eritrea, don't you all Ethiopians mainly (amahara) says we never have been colonised because we defeat Italians in Adwa 🤨. this is Tigrayn or Agazinian people history!
Because the war was between Egypt and the Emperor of Ethiopia
@@hiddenhist he was emperor of Abyssinia there was no such thing as Ethiopia at that time, Ethiopia was formed in 1890 just like Eritrea. There 100 + ethincs Only tigrigna people mainly from Hammasien, Seraye Akeleguzai Agame, fought this battle. So it's safe to say this belong to tigrigna people not Ethiopians or Eritreans.
@@Simon-vk2lr abyssinia was an exonym for the Ethiopian empire. Abyssinia is arguably a far more ethnocentric word to "ethiopia", given that people often use "abyssinian" to specifically denote their ideas of "habesha" peoples, whatever those ideas may be.
@@hiddenhist Ethiopian empire? What's your ethnicity?
@@Simon-vk2lr why do you care?
You got one fact massively wrong. Wodemichael Solomon was king of medri Bahir kingdom in current day Eritrea. They were independent from Ethiopia. This is reinforced by the fact that they had wars with King Yohannes. They only time they experienced peace was when they decided to join forces to fight the Ottomans.
Were they not, at this point, under the jurisdiction of yohannes? This is what all of the sources that I have read state or heavily imply.
It would also make no sense for Ras Alula to have been appointed the _Ras_ of these territories if they were not under the control of the Ethiopians.
HiddenHistory They were under Yohannes jurisdiction just before the battle of the battle with the Mahdist in Sudan. At that point Ras Alula was governor/chief of the region. That was after he tricked and imprisoned the previous leader Ras Woldmichael. This caused other issues as Solomon's son in law escaped imprisonment and helped the Italians in their ambitions to colonise Eritrea and other parts of East Africa. Obviously at the time the son in law only wanted revenge and didn't realise the motives the Italians had in mind. After the Mahdist killed Yohannes in battle, Ras Alula left the Eritrean region that he was governing defenceless. Thus Bahta Hagos took over and tried to raise and army to defeat the Italians. After 3 or 4 battles he died in battle (Hagos). That marked the end of any leaders within Eritrean territory. Italians would later be defeated by Menelik in Adawa but the Italians were already weakened allowing the Ethiopians to dominate them. And Eritrea would become one of Italy's first colonies in Africa.
Tesfai Mesfin wolde mikael was replaced by alula, who was under the control of yohannes, because wolde mikael solomon turned coat, siding with the egyptians during the invasion. This is attested to by the british-egyptian sources themselves.
HiddenHistory "The Scottish traveler James Bruce reported in 1770 that Medri Bahri was a distinct political entity from Abyssinia, noting that the two territories were frequently in conflict.
The kingdom was eventually occupied in 1879, when Ras Alula seized control of the region and imprisoned Woldemichael Solomon, the last Bahr Negash. Alula, as governour of Mareb Mellash under the sovereignty of the Ethiopian Empire, organized the resistance against the steadily enroaching Italians and eventually even defeated them at Dogali in 1887. Woldemichael Solomon was sent to the Amba Salama prison with his son Masfen and his son-in-law Kaffal Goffar. However, Kaffal, the son-in-law of Woldemichael Solomon continued the rebellion against the Ethiopian Empire by siding with the Italians in 1885. In 1888, Woldemichael Solomon had tried to urge his son-in-law to bring the Italians up to the highlands. By 1889 Alula was, however, forced to retreat to Tigray and the region that once constituted the kingdom of Medri Bahri fell to the Italians, who proclaimed it as a part of Italian Eritrea in 1890.[15][16]"
Tesfai Mesfin he reported this in 1770. this video takes place in the 1870s. That traveler is not relevant to this discussion, given that im discussing 19th century history, not 18th century history, and yohannes had control of these territories in the 1870s.
Mohammed Glal the mehandists didn’t kill King Yohannes...Yohannes was actually shot by one of emperor Menelik’s men during the battle of Kufit (as his strategy to take the crown become neguse negest ie king of kings ) seeing that their king was badly wounded emperor Yohannes’s army was forced to retreat to begemidir and then dispensed shortly after knowing that he would die emperor Yohannes named his sucessor Ras Leul (prince) mengesha as his heir...after the news of the Kings death reached the mehandists they decided invade begemidir and destroy the remaining force of royal army. the mahandists sacked begemidir decapitated the corpse of the dead King and fled back to Sudan......but I could care less about what happened then what gets in my nerves is the fact that king Menelik and King teklehaymanot killed Emperor Yohannes and no one knows about it
That is just a pile of rubbish!!! Yohannes IV was a great King and warrior. Menelik was a great King and warrior. I don't know what your tribalist narrow minded ancestors from the TPLF get out of spreading lies about Menelik!?!? Grow up and think for yourself man!
Yonas are you rewriting history the way you want it? Lol okay let it be. Either way both Kings Menlik and Yohannes were great in some unique way.
Isnt aste yohannes that brings the English soldiers to aste Tewodros
Terrible lazy historian. Loads of "I'm white and I say so" in response to corrections
yes.
@@hiddenhist fuck you asshole
@@ethiopian_unity3969 i appreciate the direcness of your feedback.
Dear HiddenHistory:
🇪🇷 1. there was no country called "Ethiopia" in 1875. Rather, there were fragmented autonomous sovereign kingdoms in that part of the world wit their respective names. Keep in mind, the so called country with the name "Ethiopia" was formed in 1906. FACTS.
🇪🇷 2. the area that was invaded by the "Egyptians" was "Medri Bahri kingdom of Hamasien" (aka modern day Eritrea), and it was an autonomous sovereign kingdom at that time with its own king and its own army.
🇪🇷 3. the Egyptians were defeated by King Weldemikael of Medri Bahri kingdom of Hamasien (current day Eritrea).
🇪🇷 Therefore, please get your facts together and don't feed us this "Afrocentric / Eurocentric" driven bs narrative. If you want to learn facts, go visit the Eritrean Museum in Asmara, and archeologists as well as historians with PhD credentials would be happy to educate you with the truth backed by scientific and tangible factual evidence. Your "cultural appropriation" towards Eritrea will not be tolerated and will be reported to RUclips as a "hate speech". Long live Eritrea 🇪🇷.
There is no Eritrea before 1983 (1991) but Ethiopia is the oldest country in the world.
@@lem-fentahun5609 now you're talking like a desperate niqqa, dream on with your pathetic and false history.
Egyptians lost it all.
Whitewashed
There wasn't war between Ethiopia and Egypt!!it was between Egypt and tigray!! At that time no Ethiopia!!milik was banda and mercenary of Egypt
Wrong.
Tigraies can't fight only hide in the mountains while the rest of Ethiopian fight.
You betrayed your country for temporary politics
Junta
Amhara and tgray are from the same genetic roots both habesha ethiopia geez/semitic speaking people with same culture
It is history of #Tigray not a single Amahra was involved on this war
Lol all Ethiopia history is from Amhara
Please stop 😢
I want to advise people to never go to Ethiopia or Africa country i went in ethopie capital Addis Ababa and tigray it was the worst vacation ever they didn't treat my with respect they tried to rob my in ethopie and do dirty things in my food wen I went in restaurant in Addis ababa in kirkos i want people to advise to travel in European countrys or Dubai you can enjoy you're vacation and many ethopians say they never were colonized it's not true if you honest looking what it's true many army's colonized ethopie country like ottoman empire and Arabs Egypt Saudi Italians did defeat ethopians because they enter the country and it's was more lost on the ethopians side and btw the language of ethopie it's not from ethopie it's from Yemen original ethopians say that it's the language Amharic and Tigrinya it's from ethopie that not true it's from Yemen original they take it in the Aksum times wen they enter to Yemen they take the language and culture of Yemen that why it's look more middle eastern culture and some words and the food like sambosa it's from Yemen original .
Load of Bs...who hurt you Darling?
What are u talking about dont go to Ethiopia bla bla bla bla 😂😂
please stop. that is not from ethiopian history. that is from eritrean or from tigriyna history. yowhans and alulu was not ethiopian .he was in eritrean hamasies.en made with egypt and with itallie and with otomand earring
no. Yohannes crowned himself as ‘emperor of ethiopia’, and ruled over that empire; so even assuming your claims are correct, this is still ethiopian history aswell. Because this series is centered around ethiopia, the series is called an ethiopian history series.
@@hiddenhist that is not true. because john's government was in mekel. and his jeneral alula lives in asmera. and his soldat were only tigriyna. he never know this ethiopian.and he never went to shiwa or to adis ababa.or to amhara oromo
@@eritreaneritrean1570 he... did go to Shewa. He interacted directly with Menelik multiple times during his reign - that's how the Leche agreement was made in 1878, for example. Yohannes moved his capitol many times - but regardless Mekelle is _in Ethiopia_ . Your point is moot. Amhara and Oromo are not the only ethnicities in Ethiopia.
eritrean eritrean......... let me tell you they are ethiopians from your statments. first, yohannes iv died in metema, is it neithrer in tigray nor in bahre negash. Ras Alula fought at the battle of Adwa under the rule of menelik ii. but you eritreans do not want accept ethiopia's civilization and greatness.....my advice to you is do not fight with truth, and until you reject your ethiopian citizenship, do not stick yourself with ethiopia's history becouse you already rejected it
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@@eritreaneritrean1570Excuse me? Lool ha? Tigre history you said really dummy go read the history and come back.