Halfords did a oil/filter change on my vw caravelle ,usually do it myself but it was winter/cold /wet and it was £36 going back a few years. They Had the same deal when it was due again for a oil change ,they couldn't loosen the sump drain plug, I said you was the one's that tightened it up on the last oil change,they couldn't loosen it. Had to get it air chiseled off at vw ,£100 labour + new sump plug. Thats why they started doing oil changes by vacuuming the old oil out through the dip stick hole.....because they are a bunch of dip sticks and Im a dip stick for ever using them.
some places do that on purpose, blame a ex employee if at all so they can up charge you for repair, I don't trust but one mechanic within 1000 miles of me.
I've often witnessed muppets in so-called 'service centres' doing up sump plugs with air impact wrenches; in many instances the clowns haven't even noticed when they've cross-threaded it.
I used to work at halfords. company policy was that all wheels had to be done up with a torque wrench and we had to put pictures of it set to the required torque etc. and the manager had to check our wheel nuts. Ask the customer if these pictures are on the invoice and check the torques are correct, will have solid evidence to make them pay for the cost of removing the nut and alloy refurb.
You need a 3/4 bar and sockets for them stupidly over tighten stuff it's makes it a breeze. You rarely use it but when you do your always happy you brought it
Really great videos - thanks guys! What can really help with stubborn wheel nuts is using an extension between the wrench and socket, and sitting that extension on the top of an axle stand if you see what I mean? It means all your effort is going in to rotation and removes any lateral forces being exerted that end up pulling the socket off, things going flying etc.
I’ve messaged Marvelous saying the same to invest in a 3/4” set , I swear by them & I use 1” sockets too believe it or not they are so powerful & won’t bend 👍
@@blackvulcan100this is the advice I give out most to friends and family, the funny this is they don’t ask you to do it they go there, halfrauds mess it up THEN they come to you. Why didn’t you come to me in the first place?
Hellfrauds did the same to my BMW. They managed to cross thread 2 wheel bolts. That was many years ago, and haven't set foot in one of their stores since, and never will.
I can deadlift 190kg, definitely more than my bodyweight 😜 Jokes aside, it was a cold day, I didn’t want to bash my hand on the floor just in case it loosens all of sudden, or bar snaps; could rebound straight to my face. I feel like I had more control pulling/pushing up
some years ago I had a 250 mile trip to do urgently and needed a new tyre . Went to Halfords , where i observed their fitter winding one of the wheel bolts in and out a few times with the air gun hammering a fair bit . I asked the fitter what he was doing and said that the incompetent bugger had cross threaded the bolt .I asked to see the manager who was equally useless and could offer no solution . I asked if the had an old bolt and a grinder that I could use , I had to grind flutes in the old bolt to make a tap to clean up the damaged threads in the hub to get me going again . The arseholes still charged me full whack , and a letter to head office yielded no satisfaction either . If you want a job doing right , do it yourself .
Iv had to get a few lug nuts of BMWs, decent set of drill bits. 6mm pitot then 13mm the head will fall off or twist off. Leaving a loose stud in the hub.
The wheels on the ground wouldve made that less challenging. When you lift the car up and try to loosen the nut with a breaker bar you're actually turning the hub and the axle simultaneously (those mechanisms are just locked because the transmission is in park but if the car was in neutral youd be spinning the wheel). Vs on the ground, the weight of the car is resting on the suspension, and that allows you to not have to fight against the suspension and the overtightened lug nut. The force would just go towards the nut.
It’s a rear wheel drive… I do agree though that it would’ve been ‘easier’ but it didn’t make a difference. We also did it on the ground, snapped my half-inch clean
Is it rear wheel drive if that is the case how is the wheel not spinning when u put all that force on the bar I’m pretty sure this one is all wheel drive I can be wrong I mean unless u have the e brake on but isint the e brake only on the rear wheels like I said I can be wrong but I’m pretty sure this one is all wheel drive
We’ve got ways to prevent it from spinning. ‘Trade secret’ 👀. I’ve tried to undo it on the floor, drive with just 2 wheel bolts, no worked. I have a feeling the it’s crossed-threaded but who know- just my speculation 🤢
I once put my wheels back on with my impact gun in a rush drove it about 20 miles then steering started to shake, next thing passanger side front wheel flew off car it had stripped the threads out off wheel bearing. I always use a torque wrench now on any work I do. Keep up the good videos lads
yeh i agree with you a customer not gonna be able to do this but im just giving a tip that might work for someone i always do this for tight nuts and 9/10 times it does work.@@khalidacosta7133
Thanks for mentioning that about refering to technical specs. As someone whos starting out jn the trade it annoys me how people dont check if thjngs are tightened or done to manufacturers specs 💯💯💯
150 ft lbs is absolute max for 3/8. If you are snapping half inch drive you are well over 300 ft lbs. When you have recessed bolts that tight your only option is to weld a nut on and hope the heat helps, and if not, it’s cobalt drill bits time and drill them all out. Done it a few times over the years. Usually on a locking bolt that’s been rattled gunned in.
I took my bmw x5 for tyres changed yesterday. I watched them do it and they took off with impact wrench but putting the lug bolts back on the guy did it properly. Tightend by fingers then torque up to 140 nm. They did a brill job
Haha manchester buddy. Im a car enthusiast and a home diy mecanic so i watched them carefully. The staff in carpark had a golf gti clubsport and a45 amg 1st gen so probs they were car heads themselfs im guessing.
Hi the bmw wheel nut problem you were using a 1/2" to3/8" adapter 3/8" is 9.5mm the wheel bolt is 12mm diameter so the tool is the weakest part of the link which is why you broke so many for those jobs I use a 17mm 3/4 drive socket and bar so the tool is able to exert enough force without breaking the nut was clearly overtightened tho (snap on sell the extractor sockets with a 1/2"drive which again will help you) keep up the good work guys
I also used 1/2 inch which would be the same size as the bolt but still snapped it clean. Yes I am aware that the 3/8 will snap and I was only trying it for ‘the luck’ of it. Done a few ‘trade tricks’ off camera but no joy. Those trade tricks usually work but unfortunately not on this one 😂
1/2 " is equal to bolt thread size but 17mm with conical seat surface area is what's holding against the wheel so 1/2" is still the weak point trust me invest in 3/4" breaker bar and common size sockets 17 19 21 24 27 it'll get you out of trouble most times I'm a roadside tech been doing it roadside for 30 years now and still enjoy the challenge and freedom of the van lol
This is precisely why I don't let the tyre guys take the wheels off or put the wheels back on my car. I take the wheels off, take them to get new tyres, balanced etc, and then I take the wheels home and put them on the car myself. I don't think I've ever seen a tyre place actually torque up the wheels properly. They just buzz it on with a gun and to hell with the consequences!
That's why it's best to always use a torque wrench rather than be feel or rushing things with an impact. Also, it's best not to get cheap tools since they do break fair enough I do understand that he's mobile and there's the risk of tools getting stolen 💯💯
Great video. I took my V70r to kwik fit for tyres and some little clown decides to take it out and blew the turbo. The out come they said they’d repair it I was happy. It went to Halfords 😮 where it got a low pressure turbo fitted as opposed to high pressure resulting in major issues 🤬 I cried. I still do 😢
I had a guy bring a Saab 900 Turbo to me, in the early 1980's complaining of lack of performance. When I took it for a test drive I found it had dreadful performance, and noticed that the boost gauge barely moved no matter how much I pushed down on the throttle. When I put the car up on a 4-post lift, I found it had a new exhaust fitted, but that had it no obvious leaks. On opening the bonnet, the source of the problem was fairly obvious; virtually the entire turbocharger body was covered in a thick layer of freshly hardened exhaust jointing paste. After asking the owners permission to chip this paste away, we found a lengthly crack running all the way from one of the four front pipe mounting flange bolt holes of the turbo to the actual exhaust turbine housing of the turbocharger, with smaller cracks running from two of the other bolt holes. He'd had the new exhaust ( all stainless steel ) fitted by a national 'fast-fit' chain a week previously and when he'd gone back to them, they'd simply told him it wasn't an exhaust problem because they couldn't find a leak in the new exhaust fitted, and suggested that possibly the car needed to 'get used' to having a new exhaust fitted ........!!! The head office of the company concearned paid the bill for a new turbocharger fitted by a Saab dealership.
You lads look to be doing some great work👍🏻 Wheel nuts are typically 100Nm... Which doesn't feel like a lot on a 2' long torque wrench. But people forget, a) you've got 4/5 of them and b) it's lateral load they're resisting... The weight of the car actually sits on the central flange not the studs.
You English boys and your euro cars😂.Checked mine just now to make sure I wasn't mixing up units - nop, definitely "88-118 Nm". You can do the math but that's like 500kg axial clamping force per bolt! You can hang like twice the car's weight off each wheel! Darn those German panzerwagons must be gripping in the corners like they on rails!
@@neil1997 You yanks don't need the wheel nuts so tight, because you don't go around any corners lol .... Every yank 'race' on youtube is from one set of traffic lights down a big wide straight road to the next set of light lol b o r i n g. We English need skills to drive properly son 🤭
I used to use the bar the other way standing on it gently bounce on it with a prop of wood under the knuckle until it cracked.....don't why you try the other way....-4deg would not have helped....great vid.5stars
I used Halfords “tyres on the drive” to change two of my front tyres. I had to call them back 3 times as the left front kept losing air after they changed it(wasn’t losing air beforehand) after the third time I got fed up, so I kept topping up the air in the tyre every couple of weeks for about a year (2/3psi), then I had to have the troublesome tyre removed after 1 year as I got a bloody great nail stuck in there, so I decided to get them to put a new tyre on just incase it was a crappy tyre losing air. So I got my local tyre fitters to put a new tyre on, after they fitted it, it’s never lost any air at all. Moral of the story is, don’t ever use Halfords for your car needs, even a simple tyre change!
Think of get a couple of large sheets of ply/OSB to cover your work space under the vehicles Will be better for you to lay on (warmer and drier) and keep your clients driveway cleaner and save time cleaning up (looking at the nice block paving that BMW is on)
A different company decided to torque up the wheel nuts on my Impreza WRX STI so tightly with an air gun that when I went to take a wheel off which was unfortunately some time later so I couldn't prove it was them it stripped out the internals of the locking wheel nut socket. I tried one of these kits after having to Dremel through the rotating sleeve to find that it didn't fit well enough So it cost me £80 to have the lock nuts removed, plus the cost of the kit plus the cost of a new lock wheel set. Next time I get the tyres changed I'm taking the lock nuts off myself..
Marvellous : you need a 3/4” socket set my friend as I’ve had (not quite that bad with that Beamer) but not far off & 3/4 will be a lot easier , I also use 1” sometimes (bit over the top I know but more leaverage) makes my tasks much easier , keep em coming 😀
@@themarvelousvlog some good quality 3/4” sets out there M’ for affordable prices like US Pro , sometimes used Britool sets (used to be made in Cannock not far from me) until Facom took over & moved to France , but I use Halfords tools too , as I have a trade card I have same trolley jack as yourself x2 the 3 Ton version & use the 6Ton axle stands (not Halfords branded) as I think are much safer to work under plus they are higher giving me room to manoeuvre around under the car etc hope you & John are keeping well regards 👍🤝❤️🚗
Anyone who takes their car to Halfords for mechanical work or repair, deserves everything they get. Halfords are one tiny step up from the bottom, where Motasave and KwikFit scum are.
Such tight wheel bolts are a disaster! The only option from experience... take a wheel cross + 2 long pipes that don't have too much play and 2 people. Then place the pipes approximately horizontally and with a lot of luck you will succeed!
1 thing see the excel stands there is a tab on one side nock it in it will stop the peace falling out the top when you pick them up from the black peace
Love BMWs grate car reliable and genuine cars I own one not had one problem and done 83,000 miles in 3 years got it brand new never miss a beat that’s reliability
Heavy flat faced drift punch and a heavy hammer, Hold flat on stud and smack hard and positively. Shock often jars threads and should wind out with yor strong bar. It like breaks tight seal lads......
I always loosen the wheel nuts with the car on the ground. Then nip them back up before raising the car. Doing it that way means I'm not torquing wheel nuts against the gearbox or handbrake. I'm not a mechanic, but that seems a slightly better way of doing it.
Couple of things, if It was me after the 2nd wheel nut I'd have told the customer to take it back to Halfords and call when ready. The last one you couldn't get off you could try this, drop it to the ground put another wheel nut on, drive it back and forth and that should be enough to get the tight nut off.
I would never use anything smaller than 1/2 socket to remove a wheel but. Whenever I go for new tyres, I remove locking wheel nut so they don't chew it up. When they're finished I slacken off each nut and tighten up with my own torque wrench, before I leave.
The last time I let halfords talk into letting fit parts on my car it was new headlight bulbs, on my first car a mk1.5 focus & I ended up having to fit it as they couldn't work out how to, & they refused to refund me as I had left the shop even though I had to be out there for them to fit it.
Things we tried off camera: -Cracking it on the ground -Driving on 2 wheel bolts -Mallet the shit out of the wheel/tyre -Struck it with chisel You name it. Shit just won’t move
Did they not use copper grease at Halfords? I ended up welding a big nut on the wheel bolt when I had this problem at home. I`m a crap welder so it was a pain lol.
I have lost my trust in Halfords as well. 2, maybe 3 years ago I've bought front and rear dash cam in their Leicester shop but they couldn't mount it for me (well understaffed shop) and I have been directed to their Melton Mowbray branch. I dropped my car (Volvo V60 Cross Country) and been told to pick it up in 2hrs. I did that, job done and after maybe a week after I have realised that something is rattling on a back of a car. When i opened a boot I realised that a top trim is hanging slightly on one side. Closer look with a flash light and spotted a roll of a duct tape holding a trim. They have broke a piece of a clip holding a top trim. If this would have been everything, then OK and IMHO they should have replace a clip or tell me what's happen and I could buy a clip myself, no issue. What they did instead was they took a file and got a rid of a mount of that clip on the trim itself, then rolled a bit of a duct tape and stick it on to a trim so it wasn't visible on the beginning. Obviously, after few days this sticky tape hasnt been holding properly anymore and hence those rattles. I went back in there a week or so after but they have been saying it wasn,t them....
Funny enough I've just been watching @torque test channel on RUclips about different impact wrench tests I think that would be a good watch on what Beast you need for the future should you encounter a similar issue
Never use Halfords for anything. When it comes to changing parts or fixing a vehicle. All these place Kwik fit, Halfords are only after your money all are very poor standards when it comes to a customer’s vehicle. All work to a time limit and do the job as quick as possible to a low standard. Your local garage or mobile mechanic will always provide a high standard and the best parts within your budget. Always use your local garage or mobile mechanic.
Why do fast fit garages impact gun lockers on. First thing i do when buying any new car is get rid them. Imagine getting flatty side road and not be able to find that s*** 😮😢
Had it with a lot of local tyre shops where I can’t get wheels off after I’ve even managed to break locking wheel nut keys then I’m really in the shit I’ve had to use 3/4 bars with a 1/2 adapter with those extractor sockets on wheel bolts for a Nissan micra people don’t realise the power these modern battery guns have I’ve got the Milwaukee m18 fuel 1/2 and 3/4 gun but I’m a heavy mechanic it’s crazy they can take wheels of the trucks and people use them to bang up wheel bolts on cars
had an oil change at halfords had to go back 3 times as oil was overfilled i think as my car had no dipstick they were confused actually my car had 3 dipsticks who done my oil change 😂
It’s not just Halfords. A lot but not all fast fits are the same. Dont let them near it. My daughter’s brake caliper seized on 1.0 yaris. New caliper discs and pads, far from home xmas eve. £750 scum
@@themarvelousvlog It's the expansion/contraction of a fastener that breaks the corrosion when seized in place. If you heat something that's already tight, it just becomes hot and tight!
Fair play to you guys for trying, but this is stuff you learn as you go along. Get a piece of round bar, say 20x200mm and a big hammer then a few good whacks on the bolt might shock it enough to come out. Welder is last resort
Tried other things off camera ‘trade tricks’ as they call it but it’s in there. Likely that the bolt went in sideways so they just sent it home instead
Bro , you just need two hammers i think 😅 . I do that all the time with bmw,minis locking wheelnuts . They should come off base on my experience with them
As dogey as it sounds you should of taken it a drive round the block with only the 1 wheel bolt in place, after a short drive you’ll be able to loosen it with breaker bar, had this a good few times give it a try next time lol
The amount of people I know who needed to buy a new alloy wheel socket key because its miraculously "broken" at the garage. Can guarantee its broken on an impact gun which your not supposed to use them on for removal or tightening.
Got some tyres once at Halfords in 2000 the lad came out said to the lass on the front desk I’ve just scratched some alloys what shall I do,I asked what car there on mate said some black Ibiza and laughed I laughed too and that’s my car car,they tried to offer 10% discount I laughed again said get ya manager ended up getting the tyres for nothing will never use them cowboys ever wouldn’t trust them to top up me screenwash
I had the same problem with my bmw 3 series F30 Lug bolt. I initially used a 3/8 turbo socket with the halfords 3/8 breaker bar which broke. I used a halfords 3/8 to 1/2 impact adaptor and used my 1/2 breaker bar but the adaptor broke... Eventually, what worked in the end was buying a 1/2 turbo socket from amazon so I was able to use my 1/2 breaker bar without the adaptor. I also did use penetrating oil for a few days and when I did remove the lug bolt, I applied heat to the disc. (I didnt apply the oil at the same time as the heat as its flamable lol). Which I don't know if it helped but I was desperate to try anything and I was gonna change the break disc anyway.
Invest in snap on 17mm socket or a little snap on wheel nut set. They’re well worth it as they grab the bolts. Mac tools are as good. Protective Halfords ones are good but I find the ‘rounded nut’ capability of snap on/Mac tools are well worth it especially for that bmw palaver.
Drive the car with front brake dragging to heat the disk. The bolts are still colder than surrounding disk metal and will be looser than if you heat a bolt in a cold hole
Halfords did a oil/filter change on my vw caravelle ,usually do it myself but it was winter/cold /wet and it was £36 going back a few years.
They Had the same deal when it was due again for a oil change ,they couldn't loosen the sump drain plug, I said you was the one's that tightened it up on the last oil change,they couldn't loosen it.
Had to get it air chiseled off at vw ,£100 labour + new sump plug.
Thats why they started doing oil changes by vacuuming the old oil out through the dip stick hole.....because they are a bunch of dip sticks and Im a dip stick for ever using them.
Great comment 😅 ,👌🏻
some places do that on purpose, blame a ex employee if at all so they can up charge you for repair, I don't trust but one mechanic within 1000 miles of me.
I've often witnessed muppets in so-called 'service centres' doing up sump plugs with air impact wrenches; in many instances the clowns haven't even noticed when they've cross-threaded it.
I used to work at halfords. company policy was that all wheels had to be done up with a torque wrench and we had to put pictures of it set to the required torque etc. and the manager had to check our wheel nuts. Ask the customer if these pictures are on the invoice and check the torques are correct, will have solid evidence to make them pay for the cost of removing the nut and alloy refurb.
Just sent this across to him. Fingers crossed he gets some sort of compensation for it
The power of RUclips community right there 😁👍🏻
What it should be about!
You need a 3/4 bar and sockets for them stupidly over tighten stuff it's makes it a breeze. You rarely use it but when you do your always happy you brought it
I am gunna order one after this encounter 😂
Really great videos - thanks guys! What can really help with stubborn wheel nuts is using an extension between the wrench and socket, and sitting that extension on the top of an axle stand if you see what I mean? It means all your effort is going in to rotation and removes any lateral forces being exerted that end up pulling the socket off, things going flying etc.
I’ve messaged Marvelous saying the same to invest in a 3/4” set , I swear by them & I use 1” sockets too believe it or not they are so powerful & won’t bend 👍
Halfrauds couldn't fit a nut on a Halloween cake. I dont understand why people would use them. Another great video guys.
Take it back to the Halfords bodgers
That’s what he’s doing
Lesson here never ever use Halfrauds and especially never use quick shit.
Defo 💯💯💯
@@blackvulcan100this is the advice I give out most to friends and family, the funny this is they don’t ask you to do it they go there, halfrauds mess it up THEN they come to you. Why didn’t you come to me in the first place?
Hellfrauds did the same to my BMW. They managed to cross thread 2 wheel bolts. That was many years ago, and haven't set foot in one of their stores since, and never will.
Why do you pull up with torque bar? So much easier to push down - just use body weight.
I can deadlift 190kg, definitely more than my bodyweight 😜
Jokes aside, it was a cold day, I didn’t want to bash my hand on the floor just in case it loosens all of sudden, or bar snaps; could rebound straight to my face. I feel like I had more control pulling/pushing up
some years ago I had a 250 mile trip to do urgently and needed a new tyre . Went to Halfords , where i observed their fitter winding one of the wheel bolts in and out a few times with the air gun hammering a fair bit . I asked the fitter what he was doing and said that the incompetent bugger had cross threaded the bolt .I asked to see the manager who was equally useless and could offer no solution . I asked if the had an old bolt and a grinder that I could use , I had to grind flutes in the old bolt to make a tap to clean up the damaged threads in the hub to get me going again . The arseholes still charged me full whack , and a letter to head office yielded
no satisfaction either . If you want a job doing right , do it yourself .
Iv had to get a few lug nuts of BMWs, decent set of drill bits. 6mm pitot then 13mm the head will fall off or twist off. Leaving a loose stud in the hub.
The wheels on the ground wouldve made that less challenging. When you lift the car up and try to loosen the nut with a breaker bar you're actually turning the hub and the axle simultaneously (those mechanisms are just locked because the transmission is in park but if the car was in neutral youd be spinning the wheel). Vs on the ground, the weight of the car is resting on the suspension, and that allows you to not have to fight against the suspension and the overtightened lug nut. The force would just go towards the nut.
It’s a rear wheel drive… I do agree though that it would’ve been ‘easier’ but it didn’t make a difference. We also did it on the ground, snapped my half-inch clean
Know it all, it's a rear wheel drive
Is it rear wheel drive if that is the case how is the wheel not spinning when u put all that force on the bar I’m pretty sure this one is all wheel drive I can be wrong I mean unless u have the e brake on but isint the e brake only on the rear wheels like I said I can be wrong but I’m pretty sure this one is all wheel drive
We’ve got ways to prevent it from spinning. ‘Trade secret’ 👀.
I’ve tried to undo it on the floor, drive with just 2 wheel bolts, no worked. I have a feeling the it’s crossed-threaded but who know- just my speculation 🤢
I once put my wheels back on with my impact gun in a rush drove it about 20 miles then steering started to shake, next thing passanger side front wheel flew off car it had stripped the threads out off wheel bearing. I always use a torque wrench now on any work I do. Keep up the good videos lads
Ooooffff! I’m glad you’re still here leaving a comment!
Thank you mate 🫡
i usually hit the wheel nut with a big drift to shock it and usually does the trick specially on tight locking wheel nuts
A massive impact driver would help I reckon but still tooooo tight
How is the customer meant to do this on the side of a road?
yeh i agree with you a customer not gonna be able to do this but im just giving a tip that might work for someone i always do this for tight nuts and 9/10 times it does work.@@khalidacosta7133
I too have had this issue, so I remove my wheels for new tyres and refit them myself with a torque wrench.
Torque multiplier also good for these situations if the impact can’t do it.
I have welded a old socket many of times and removed locking bolts without making a mark to the wheel at all.
Thanks for mentioning that about refering to technical specs. As someone whos starting out jn the trade it annoys me how people dont check if thjngs are tightened or done to manufacturers specs 💯💯💯
150 ft lbs is absolute max for 3/8. If you are snapping half inch drive you are well over 300 ft lbs. When you have recessed bolts that tight your only option is to weld a nut on and hope the heat helps, and if not, it’s cobalt drill bits time and drill them all out. Done it a few times over the years. Usually on a locking bolt that’s been rattled gunned in.
I took my car to halfords for a brake fluid change and they fucked up two of the bleed valves so a few weeks later they started pissing out fluid
They didn’t wanna say anything, no? That’s just jarring…
I took my bmw x5 for tyres changed yesterday. I watched them do it and they took off with impact wrench but putting the lug bolts back on the guy did it properly. Tightend by fingers then torque up to 140 nm. They did a brill job
Let me know where this is, I’ll hire this mechanic in question 😂
Haha manchester buddy. Im a car enthusiast and a home diy mecanic so i watched them carefully. The staff in carpark had a golf gti clubsport and a45 amg 1st gen so probs they were car heads themselfs im guessing.
Had the same experience in an ATS Euromaster. Did it properly which was surprising given my experience at a different ATS!
depends on the mechanic , there are good and bad everywhere .@@khalidacosta7133
Removing wheel nuts with an impact wrench isn't a problem, it's over-tightening when doing them up that does all the damage.
Hi the bmw wheel nut problem you were using a 1/2" to3/8" adapter 3/8" is 9.5mm the wheel bolt is 12mm diameter so the tool is the weakest part of the link which is why you broke so many for those jobs I use a 17mm 3/4 drive socket and bar so the tool is able to exert enough force without breaking the nut was clearly overtightened tho (snap on sell the extractor sockets with a 1/2"drive which again will help you) keep up the good work guys
I also used 1/2 inch which would be the same size as the bolt but still snapped it clean. Yes I am aware that the 3/8 will snap and I was only trying it for ‘the luck’ of it.
Done a few ‘trade tricks’ off camera but no joy. Those trade tricks usually work but unfortunately not on this one 😂
1/2 " is equal to bolt thread size but 17mm with conical seat surface area is what's holding against the wheel so 1/2" is still the weak point trust me invest in 3/4" breaker bar and common size sockets 17 19 21 24 27 it'll get you out of trouble most times I'm a roadside tech been doing it roadside for 30 years now and still enjoy the challenge and freedom of the van lol
Definitely will be investing on one. Even bought weighted sockets for the ‘just in case’ 😂
This is precisely why I don't let the tyre guys take the wheels off or put the wheels back on my car. I take the wheels off, take them to get new tyres, balanced etc, and then I take the wheels home and put them on the car myself. I don't think I've ever seen a tyre place actually torque up the wheels properly. They just buzz it on with a gun and to hell with the consequences!
They do torque it to 120nm… after they gun it down to 2000nm to hell 😂
@@themarvelousvlog😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's why it's best to always use a torque wrench rather than be feel or rushing things with an impact. Also, it's best not to get cheap tools since they do break fair enough I do understand that he's mobile and there's the risk of tools getting stolen 💯💯
That was hilarious, attempting to remove wheel bolts with chocolate tools 😂😂😂
Butter*** 😂😂😂
0:54 what reputation 😅😅
Great video. I took my V70r to kwik fit for tyres and some little clown decides to take it out and blew the turbo. The out come they said they’d repair it I was happy. It went to Halfords 😮 where it got a low pressure turbo fitted as opposed to high pressure resulting in major issues 🤬 I cried. I still do 😢
I had a guy bring a Saab 900 Turbo to me, in the early 1980's complaining of lack of performance. When I took it for a test drive I found it had dreadful performance, and noticed that the boost gauge barely moved no matter how much I pushed down on the throttle. When I put the car up on a 4-post lift, I found it had a new exhaust fitted, but that had it no obvious leaks. On opening the bonnet, the source of the problem was fairly obvious; virtually the entire turbocharger body was covered in a thick layer of freshly hardened exhaust jointing paste. After asking the owners permission to chip this paste away, we found a lengthly crack running all the way from one of the four front pipe mounting flange bolt holes of the turbo to the actual exhaust turbine housing of the turbocharger, with smaller cracks running from two of the other bolt holes. He'd had the new exhaust ( all stainless steel ) fitted by a national 'fast-fit' chain a week previously and when he'd gone back to them, they'd simply told him it wasn't an exhaust problem because they couldn't find a leak in the new exhaust fitted, and suggested that possibly the car needed to 'get used' to having a new exhaust fitted ........!!!
The head office of the company concearned paid the bill for a new turbocharger fitted by a Saab dealership.
Really enjoy your videos because you show how to content…and explain why and how to fix certain issues….keep it up I can see your channel going far…..
Never heard someone say negative 4 about the weather lol
Watching too much American shite 😂
You should update us on how Halfords deal with the situation.
Definitely will as long as the owner wishes to share this information 😅
You lads look to be doing some great work👍🏻
Wheel nuts are typically 100Nm... Which doesn't feel like a lot on a 2' long torque wrench. But people forget, a) you've got 4/5 of them and b) it's lateral load they're resisting... The weight of the car actually sits on the central flange not the studs.
140nm
@@GeorgeAusters Yep 100% correct. My last 6 cars have all stated 140nm in the owners manual.
This had me looking up my spec, as I do them to 105 lbf Thankfully same as 140 nm.
You English boys and your euro cars😂.Checked mine just now to make sure I wasn't mixing up units - nop, definitely "88-118 Nm". You can do the math but that's like 500kg axial clamping force per bolt! You can hang like twice the car's weight off each wheel!
Darn those German panzerwagons must be gripping in the corners like they on rails!
@@neil1997 You yanks don't need the wheel nuts so tight, because you don't go around any corners lol ....
Every yank 'race' on youtube is from one set of traffic lights down a big wide straight road to the next set of light lol b o r i n g.
We English need skills to drive properly son 🤭
Great work, as always, guys.
What camera setup and mic are you using in this video?
We currently use DJI Action 4 and GoPro Hero 12 with their built-in mic. We are investing in heavier equipments soon!
Smashing out the content! You must be putting in some graft! Looking after newborn, editing and doing the day job. Top man!
I used to use the bar the other way standing on it gently bounce on it with a prop of wood under the knuckle until it cracked.....don't why you try the other way....-4deg would not have helped....great vid.5stars
I used Halfords “tyres on the drive” to change two of my front tyres. I had to call them back 3 times as the left front kept losing air after they changed it(wasn’t losing air beforehand) after the third time I got fed up, so I kept topping up the air in the tyre every couple of weeks for about a year (2/3psi), then I had to have the troublesome tyre removed after 1 year as I got a bloody great nail stuck in there, so I decided to get them to put a new tyre on just incase it was a crappy tyre losing air. So I got my local tyre fitters to put a new tyre on, after they fitted it, it’s never lost any air at all. Moral of the story is, don’t ever use Halfords for your car needs, even a simple tyre change!
Love your approach !
Why did you not go back to Halfords 2 hours ago .
Think of get a couple of large sheets of ply/OSB to cover your work space under the vehicles
Will be better for you to lay on (warmer and drier) and keep your clients driveway cleaner and save time cleaning up (looking at the nice block paving that BMW is on)
A different company decided to torque up the wheel nuts on my Impreza WRX STI so tightly with an air gun that when I went to take a wheel off which was unfortunately some time later so I couldn't prove it was them it stripped out the internals of the locking wheel nut socket. I tried one of these kits after having to Dremel through the rotating sleeve to find that it didn't fit well enough So it cost me £80 to have the lock nuts removed, plus the cost of the kit plus the cost of a new lock wheel set. Next time I get the tyres changed I'm taking the lock nuts off myself..
Fun little fact a lot of the torque spec on wheels are same lot of time as the pcd of the wheels…
how many times do you see garages put wheels on with a gun,every time i get my tyres done i insist that i put the wheel nuts on myself
I put them on with an impact BUT only until I get to the first impact. I then lower it and torque to spec. You’ll see this in my other videos
Marvellous : you need a 3/4” socket set my friend as I’ve had (not quite that bad with that Beamer) but not far off & 3/4 will be a lot easier , I also use 1” sometimes (bit over the top I know but more leaverage) makes my tasks much easier , keep em coming 😀
I will be buying that for sure. I’ve also ordered weighted sockets now for the just in case
@@themarvelousvlog some good quality 3/4” sets out there M’ for affordable prices like US Pro , sometimes used Britool sets (used to be made in Cannock not far from me) until Facom took over & moved to France , but I use Halfords tools too , as I have a trade card I have same trolley jack as yourself x2 the 3 Ton version & use the 6Ton axle stands (not Halfords branded) as I think are much safer to work under plus they are higher giving me room to manoeuvre around under the car etc hope you & John are keeping well regards 👍🤝❤️🚗
Anyone who takes their car to Halfords for mechanical work or repair, deserves everything they get.
Halfords are one tiny step up from the bottom, where Motasave and KwikFit scum are.
Such tight wheel bolts are a disaster!
The only option from experience... take a wheel cross + 2 long pipes that don't have too much play and 2 people.
Then place the pipes approximately horizontally and with a lot of luck you will succeed!
Do you work on vans diesel???
I want to see how they get those wheels off.
1 thing see the excel stands there is a tab on one side nock it in it will stop the peace falling out the top when you pick them up from the black peace
Love BMWs grate car reliable and genuine cars I own one not had one problem and done 83,000 miles in 3 years got it brand new never miss a beat that’s reliability
Halford took over National tyres recently
Heavy flat faced drift punch and a heavy hammer, Hold flat on stud and smack hard and positively. Shock often jars threads and should wind out with yor strong bar. It like breaks tight seal lads......
I always loosen the wheel nuts with the car on the ground. Then nip them back up before raising the car. Doing it that way means I'm not torquing wheel nuts against the gearbox or handbrake. I'm not a mechanic, but that seems a slightly better way of doing it.
They probably messed up the threads on the BMW. At least the front bearing comes with the hub once they manage to drill it out or snap it off...
I've had issues with wheel bolts on an F30 3 Series. The F20 1 Series I serviced recently was a breeze by comparison.
If you have a stuck wheel bolt/nut put the other ones back in and torque them up THEN use your impact driver on the stuck one 😉
Couple of things, if It was me after the 2nd wheel nut I'd have told the customer to take it back to Halfords and call when ready.
The last one you couldn't get off you could try this, drop it to the ground put another wheel nut on, drive it back and forth and that should be enough to get the tight nut off.
Tried that, didn’t work. Didn’t wanna drive any further as I don’t want the wheel to fall off 😅
@@themarvelousvlog Well said. I've just subscribed.
I would never use anything smaller than 1/2 socket to remove a wheel but. Whenever I go for new tyres, I remove locking wheel nut so they don't chew it up. When they're finished I slacken off each nut and tighten up with my own torque wrench, before I leave.
No jack pads?
Of course there is mate
Bloomin ek that was tight,might be worth carrying some 3/4 gear as well😊
The last time I let halfords talk into letting fit parts on my car it was new headlight bulbs, on my first car a mk1.5 focus & I ended up having to fit it as they couldn't work out how to, & they refused to refund me as I had left the shop even though I had to be out there for them to fit it.
Haven’t had a bolt my Milwaukee 1/2” high torque could not undo, with a high output battery. Is that what you guys tried??
Ironic there's a Halfords ad on you video..🤣
Oh no 😂😂😂🤢
Didn’t think about cracking the nuts before lifting the car? Funniest 10 minutes I’ve watched. What a couple of spanners 😂😂😂
Things we tried off camera:
-Cracking it on the ground
-Driving on 2 wheel bolts
-Mallet the shit out of the wheel/tyre
-Struck it with chisel
You name it. Shit just won’t move
Iv had afew cars at my garage from hailfords simple bulb change and thay broke the headlamp just unskilled workers that need to use torque wrenches
Did they not use copper grease at Halfords? I ended up welding a big nut on the wheel bolt when I had this problem at home. I`m a crap welder so it was a pain lol.
4:34 should have tried heating the discs through the wheel
Had it on my sons wheel all 5 bolts. Would not let Halfords or similar near my car.
I have lost my trust in Halfords as well. 2, maybe 3 years ago I've bought front and rear dash cam in their Leicester shop but they couldn't mount it for me (well understaffed shop) and I have been directed to their Melton Mowbray branch. I dropped my car (Volvo V60 Cross Country) and been told to pick it up in 2hrs. I did that, job done and after maybe a week after I have realised that something is rattling on a back of a car. When i opened a boot I realised that a top trim is hanging slightly on one side. Closer look with a flash light and spotted a roll of a duct tape holding a trim. They have broke a piece of a clip holding a top trim. If this would have been everything, then OK and IMHO they should have replace a clip or tell me what's happen and I could buy a clip myself, no issue. What they did instead was they took a file and got a rid of a mount of that clip on the trim itself, then rolled a bit of a duct tape and stick it on to a trim so it wasn't visible on the beginning. Obviously, after few days this sticky tape hasnt been holding properly anymore and hence those rattles. I went back in there a week or so after but they have been saying it wasn,t them....
This is the number 1 bodge job in the world 😂
I’m sorry to hear this!
Funny enough I've just been watching @torque test channel on RUclips about different impact wrench tests I think that would be a good watch on what Beast you need for the future should you encounter a similar issue
First mistake using 3/8 ally wheels don’t help tight fitting socket ❤but that’s ridiculous
Never use Halfords for anything. When it comes to changing parts or fixing a vehicle. All these place Kwik fit, Halfords are only after your money all are very poor standards when it comes to a customer’s vehicle. All work to a time limit and do the job as quick as possible to a low standard. Your local garage or mobile mechanic will always provide a high standard and the best parts within your budget.
Always use your local garage or mobile mechanic.
Can’t agree enough mate
Why do fast fit garages impact gun lockers on. First thing i do when buying any new car is get rid them. Imagine getting flatty side road and not be able to find that s*** 😮😢
Halfords {national tyres} didn't even balance my tyres properly lol, was busy taking pictures of torque measurements
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Had it with a lot of local tyre shops where I can’t get wheels off after I’ve even managed to break locking wheel nut keys then I’m really in the shit I’ve had to use 3/4 bars with a 1/2 adapter with those extractor sockets on wheel bolts for a Nissan micra people don’t realise the power these modern battery guns have I’ve got the Milwaukee m18 fuel 1/2 and 3/4 gun but I’m a heavy mechanic it’s crazy they can take wheels of the trucks and people use them to bang up wheel bolts on cars
Long 3/4 breaker bar...use it all time for these scenarios 😮
What tools make are you using for the BMW
Snap-on, Blue-point, Halfords, Facom and Teng 🙂
had an oil change at halfords had to go back 3 times as oil was overfilled i think as my car had no dipstick they were confused actually my car had 3 dipsticks who done my oil change 😂
It’s not just Halfords. A lot but not all fast fits are the same. Dont let them near it. My daughter’s brake caliper seized on 1.0 yaris. New caliper discs and pads, far from home xmas eve. £750 scum
Needed literally an hour of labour, a wire brush and some ceramic grease right✌🏻
Not £750… damn the money that they made!
Well, at least that wheel wasn't going to fall off unexpectedly!
That Mechanic Garage should have been able to diagnose that Vauxhall Corsa with their Pico Scope..! 🤔🤔😇😇
Heat is for busting corrosion. It doesn't make tight things less tight
That’s interesting. Please elaborate 🤔
@@themarvelousvlog It's the expansion/contraction of a fastener that breaks the corrosion when seized in place. If you heat something that's already tight, it just becomes hot and tight!
Fair play to you guys for trying, but this is stuff you learn as you go along. Get a piece of round bar, say 20x200mm and a big hammer then a few good whacks on the bolt might shock it enough to come out. Welder is last resort
Tried other things off camera ‘trade tricks’ as they call it but it’s in there. Likely that the bolt went in sideways so they just sent it home instead
On that Corsa.. The blocked DPF probably CAUSED the failed turbo
Impact hammers are helpful with these, however when rounded may not be as useful
Bro , you just need two hammers i think 😅 . I do that all the time with bmw,minis locking wheelnuts . They should come off base on my experience with them
Holy shit did they just leave the impact running for like 5 mins when they tightened them, lol
Halfrauds couldn’t even fit an ready opened Air Freshener in a car, let alone trusting them to change windscreen wipers 😂
Don't ever take your motor to Halfords, got collage students working there that have NO IDEA ............ NO IDEA 😐
this is why i buy halfords tools when they snap i just swop it for a new one
As dogey as it sounds you should of taken it a drive round the block with only the 1 wheel bolt in place, after a short drive you’ll be able to loosen it with breaker bar, had this a good few times give it a try next time lol
I was considering this. If it was a Corsa, yes I’d do it. A 2019 BMW 7 Series on the other hand… meeehhhhh 😂
Twist socket on your half inch milwaukee would have that off
Put the Jack under your extension and you wil have better torgue
How on earth did this happen I thought they only changed dust caps and window wipers at Halfords 😂
Well done guys
Thank you’
The amount of people I know who needed to buy a new alloy wheel socket key because its miraculously "broken" at the garage. Can guarantee its broken on an impact gun which your not supposed to use them on for removal or tightening.
Got some tyres once at Halfords in 2000 the lad came out said to the lass on the front desk I’ve just scratched some alloys what shall I do,I asked what car there on mate said some black Ibiza and laughed I laughed too and that’s my car car,they tried to offer 10% discount I laughed again said get ya manager ended up getting the tyres for nothing will never use them cowboys ever wouldn’t trust them to top up me screenwash
I had the same problem with my bmw 3 series F30 Lug bolt. I initially used a 3/8 turbo socket with the halfords 3/8 breaker bar which broke. I used a halfords 3/8 to 1/2 impact adaptor and used my 1/2 breaker bar but the adaptor broke... Eventually, what worked in the end was buying a 1/2 turbo socket from amazon so I was able to use my 1/2 breaker bar without the adaptor. I also did use penetrating oil for a few days and when I did remove the lug bolt, I applied heat to the disc. (I didnt apply the oil at the same time as the heat as its flamable lol). Which I don't know if it helped but I was desperate to try anything and I was gonna change the break disc anyway.
Would those expensive 7 series wheels be damaged, ie cracked, because of that overtightening?
It can happen. I just hope it didn’t get to that point 🥲
Need advice can you change the mileage from kph to mph on vw polo 2016
I think there is an option on VCDS. I’m not sure 🤔
Invest in snap on 17mm socket or a little snap on wheel nut set. They’re well worth it as they grab the bolts.
Mac tools are as good. Protective Halfords ones are good but I find the ‘rounded nut’ capability of snap on/Mac tools are well worth it especially for that bmw palaver.
my 3/4 gun delivers 2000ft/lb or almost 3000 nm, would breaze that off without breaking a sweat
You’d probably snap the head before anything else 😂 Would love to have something like that
Drive the car with front brake dragging to heat the disk. The bolts are still colder than surrounding disk metal and will be looser than if you heat a bolt in a cold hole