The political landscape in Korea these days is very exciting, As an American expat, it's so interesting to witness such a historical event that may never come to pass again! What do you all think about these times?! President Yoon's No-Fly Ban: www.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1172237.html President Yoon's likely scenarios: www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20241205050097 K-pop artists joining protests: www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2024/12/398_388120.html
I can't say K-Pop doesn't influence the protests at all, but I think the K-Pop is just a tool that keeps the protests getting together. In 80s and 90s, we sung some songs which have the lyrics that means protesting. In recent protests, many young generation participated and they are familiar with K-Pop. One of the most important things for protests in Korea is non-violent, because if the protest is violent, opposite side focuses on the violence and distort the opinion of the protest. And another most important thing is showing how many people agree with the opinion and giving opponent pressure consecutively. So we need to spend a lot of time on the road. To do that, we utilize some songs which is old one or recent K-Pop for fun and boost the mood. In conclusion, non-violent and some fun for lasting the protests is the most important thing in Korea as long as the protests take long time and is important one. --------- This is just my own thought and could be different from the real fact.
I'm from the generation of political protests in the 80s. The protests were often violent, mostly because the army responded with extreme brutality. However, we had protest songs that became our voice. These songs were banned by the government, and many of the artists were imprisoned, but we still sang them! And I still remember the lyrics.
Hahaha thanks so much for liking my hat!:) And yes! Actually, these days I am learning Korean history and culture more deeply:) Stay warm as well! It will get colder soon!
As a Korean in my 20s, I never expected to witness the impeachment of a South Korean president twice. In 2017, the first female pesident Park, was removed from office following massive protests, partly fueled by public outrage over the Sewol Ferry disaster. Now, in 2024, president Yoon's handling of the Itaewon tragedy has further deepened the nation's discontent, including the martial law. Martial law was a thing in the 80s where my grandparents generation experienced so it's shocking for us too. I hope this chaos ends by this Saturday and be the last protest. I recommend u to check out president Park protests cus the population is not comparable to yoon.
Omg...you have witnessed so much history as a young person! I'm interested to know how these events have shaped your political views! Thank you for telling me part of your story:)
@francoismarc3 Thanks for replying always! :) Many ppl in korea have an interest to politics including the students. So the prosecutors in SK have the power to suspend the departures normally or the police. Like somali case, prosecutors done it to ban him. President Yoon has been banned from leaving the country by the Ministry of Justice amid a deepening political crisis. And there are three teams that are investigating him including the prosecutors & police. Protests u saw with kpop, there were many uni students, youngsters in 20~30s. They used kpop to keep themselves energized at the cold weather in peaceful way ofc. This president made millennial generations move so he's in big trouble.
I think that having intelligent Kpop music, such as Ateez and many of the rappers has helped the South Korean youth to feel like they have a voice in their country. It's often through art that societal changes are inspired.
Also I think In Korea the popular songs about country and homeland should influence people’s thinking. It is the same in Mongolia we have songs about love for the country and family. I was very surprised that most love songs in the US is only between man and a woman and so on.
This is true! The only songs I know that talk about love of the US are country songs, but it's not really about love of the country, but love of their immediate area. But country music definitely has patriotic spirits!
Hi, Francois!!! You asked, "What is the connection between bringing the U.S. flag to a political rally/ protest in Korea?" First, as an American who has been living in Korea for almost 20 years, I love and support Korea very much. I think the main reason is obviously, that the U.S. and Korea both have significant strategic alliances when it comes to geopolitics in the region as you may know. So, it is in the interests of both left and right in the political spectrum in Korea to show their solidarity and support for the U.S. because, without the America's support, South Korea is in a very vulnerable situation, economically, politically, militarily, and diplomatically. Korea and the U.S. both need each other but South Korea heavily depends/relies on America for national security in particular. This is the reality!! I disagree with this statement, but some people even go as far as Korea being a vassal/proxy/puppet/pawn state to the U.S. as well as Japan. Anyways, all you have to do is look at the map of the Korean peninsula and its geographic surroundings. Korea is surrounded by many powerful countries like China, Russia, Japan, and also hostile North Korea just a few miles above. Also, the U.S has a heavy military presence in the Republic of Korea for many years for its protection. It is no secret that Korea has always been the victim of foreign invasion/occupation by many countries throughout history even as far back as the Mongol invasion about eight hundred years ago. Now, why K-pop stars do not tend to openly and expressively show their political views as American celebrities do, you ask? Some do but most tend to keep it to themselves because it is not in their interest fearing retaliation and repercussion. Korea's democracy and freedom especially when it comes to political freedom of speech and expression is very short and "different" compared to the U.S. It has gotten a lot better recently but compared to the U.S., Korean people simply do not feel comfortable and it's still culturally a taboo thing. I hope you understand what I have said here today. As always, peace and best wishes brother!! Have a great day!!
K-pop 스타들이 왜 공개적 표현을 못하는지 알려드리죠. 이것은 문화와 관련되어 있습니다. 한국은 집단주의 세속주의 문화 입니다. 알다시피 오래전부터 쌀을 재배하는 농경문화는 인력이 집약적으로 사용되어야 하기에 지도자를 중심으로 집단적으로 움직여야 경작이 됩니다. 그래서 아시아 대부분은 집단주의가 발달되어 있습니다. 서양은 유목문화라 개인주의가 발달되었죠. 농경문화는 나보다 집단이 우선인 경우가 많아요. 그래서 남에게 해가되지 않도록 집단을 위해 눈치를 많이보죠. 일본이 대표적인 경우구요. 특히 한국은 빠른 경제성장을 하다보니 세속적인 '돈'이 최우선시 되고 게다가 집단주의도 같이 있다보니, 케이팝 스타가 내 목소리를 내면 경제적 손해가 되고 집단적으로 남에게 린치를 당할 가능성이 많습니다. 서양에선 개인의사의 표현일 뿐인데 말이죠. 한국에선 미국처럼 개인주의가 발달되지 않다보니 정치적 자유가 없는것처럼 보일 것입니다. 인정합니다. 그러나 집단주의가 힘을 발휘할때도 있는데 전쟁이 일어나거나(Korean war), 위험에 닥치거나(IMF in 1997), 국가적인 행사를 할때(2002 worldcup) 큰힘을 발휘 합니다. 그래서 이건 문화적 현상이기에 무엇이 잘못되었다 말할 수 없습니다. 정치적 행위에 성조기를 들고 가는 이유는 보수층 때문입니다. 보수층은 나이가 많고 여러 경험을 하였습니다. 저도 처음엔 이해가 안갔지만 그들에게 성조기는 나라를 구해주었으며 자유의 상징 입니다. 주변강국에 침입만 받다가 미국의 자유민주주의를 받아들이며 잘살게 되었으니까요. 반면 곧 정권을 잡을 것으로 예상되는 민주당 진보층은 평등을 바라 봅니다. 미국 및 일본과의 관계에서 더 목소리를 낼것이며 한미관계에 어려움이 예상됩니다. Let me tell you why K-pop stars can't express themselves publicly. It's related to culture. Korea is a collectivist secular culture. As you know, the agricultural culture of growing rice has been intensive for a long time, so it has to be done by moving in groups centered around a leader. That's why most of Asia is collectivist. The West is a nomadic culture, so individualism has developed. In agricultural culture, the group often comes before oneself. So, they are very mindful of the group so as not to harm others. Japan is a typical example. In particular, Korea has experienced rapid economic growth, so worldly 'money' is the top priority, and on top of that, collectivism exists, so if K-pop stars speak up, they suffer economic losses and are likely to be lynched by others. In the West, it's just an expression of individual opinion. In Korea, individualism is not as developed as in the US, so it may seem like there is no political freedom. I admit it. However, there are times when collectivism exerts its power, such as when there is a war (Korean War), danger (IMF in 1997), or a national event (2002 World Cup). Therefore, this is a cultural phenomenon, so there is no wrong way to say anything. The reason why they carry the American flag for political activities is because of the conservatives. The conservatives are older and have experienced a lot. I didn't understand it at first, but to them, the American flag saved the country and is a symbol of freedom. They were invaded by neighboring powers, but they accepted American liberal democracy and started living well. On the other hand, the progressive Democratic Party, which is expected to take power soon, hopes for equality. They will make more voice in their relationship with the US and Japan, and difficulties are expected in the Korea-US relationship.
Yes. Our ancestors use sarcastic ways to make fun of people who are in power from a long, long time ago. Singing and dancing are big parts of protesting. Many stories ridicule powerful people with singing and dancing
I felt very good wearing the Kazakh traditional clothes lol. Like a real king hahah. I'm super interested in this phenomenon because Korea has a highly educated society with aboit 80% percent of the population having received degrees, as far as the research I read states. So I'm wondering now if this educated population will begin to focus their academic acumen more on politics. What will happen to future would-be leaders when they need the people's vote. So interesting to think! I want to do more videos from my classrooms and office!
Throughout their long history, Korean students have always been very proactive in their fight for freedom and democracy for hundreds of years (like the March First Movement, etc.) And they often used music to promote solidarity. The only difference among generations is obviously their choices of music/ songs. In the 1960's their choice of songs were more solemn I'd say. But this young "M-Z" generations aren't familiar with older Korean songs and chose to use K-pop songs/ parodies that are more upbeat. Proof that these younger generations are in tune with current politics (to the surprise of many older generations) and more hopeful and positive in their messages. They are NOT "influenced" by K-pop, but rather using it for their best expression/ message of hope and resilience.
Have you ever seen any country National Assembly Congres opened at Saturday?😊Have you ever seen any country National Assembly Congres opened at Saturday?😊
첫째, 한국의 음악(가곡 가요 K pop)의 일부는 1900년을 전후해서 왕정과 일본의 강제점령에 항거한 동학운동과 독립운동을 거쳐 1960~80년대에는 군사독재에 저항하는 민주화 운동에서 중요한 역할을 했고 이는 세대를 거쳐 현재의 MZ들에게 직접 또는 간접적 영향을 끼쳤고 앞으로도 그럴거라 믿습니다. 특히 대한민국 헌법 서문에도 이러한 불의에 대항하는 정신을 계승한다고 명시되어있습니다. 1. 가곡 가요 K pop의 예: 새야새야 파랑새야, 울밑에선 봉선화야, 아침이슬, 그대에게, 다시만난 세계 등 2. 헌법전(서)문: 유구한 역사와 전통에 빛나는 우리 대한국민은 3.1운동으로 건립된 대한민국임시정부의 법통과 불의에 항거한4.19민주 이념을 계승하고, 조국의 민주개혁과 평화적 통일의 사명에 입각하여 정의·인도와 동포애로써 민족의 단결을 공고히 하고, 모든 사회적 폐습과 불의를 타파하며, 자율과 조화를 바탕으로 자유 민주적 기본질서를 더욱 확고히 하여 정치·경제·사회의 모든 영역에 있어서 각인의 기회를 균등히 하고, 능력을 최고도로 발휘하게 하며, 자유와 권리에 따르는 책임과 의무를 완수하게 하여, 안으로는 국민생활의 균등한 향상을 기하고 밖으로는 항구적인 세계평화와 인류공영에 이바지함으로써 우리들과 우리들의 자손의 안전과 자유와 행복을 영원히 확보할 것을 다짐하면서 1948년 7월 12일에 제정되고 8차에 걸쳐 개정된 헌법을 이제 국회의 의결을 거쳐 국민투표에 의하여 개정한다.1987년 10월 29일
President and government officials are serving the people of Korea not being rulers. Koreans earned their democracy. You are free to go to the protest if you want because it’s free country.
Observe from a distance! You are correct you could jeopardize your job. Korea is much more civilized than America. They are respectful. Love your hat and coat!💙🕊️
폭력은 폭력을 낳는다는 것을 역사를 통해 배웠기에 시위도 평화적으로 하는 거예요~ 노동자를 위한 민중가요부터 요샌 젊은 청년들이 집회에 나와서 kpop을 부르거나 캐롤송도 탄핵을 담은 가사로 바꿔부르기도 하죠~ 원래 흥과 한이 민족이라서 사람들이 모이면 즐기면서 해결하려 합니다 ㅋㅋ
둘째, 대한민국은 양심에 따라 믿는 바를 표현할 수 있는 자유가 보장된 나라입니다. 지금의 시위도 그 자유를 지키고 더 확대하기 위한 것입니다. 프란시스님이 시위에 참가 하든 아니든 저는 님의 선택을 존중하고 한국 정부도 이를 비자 발급의 기준으로 삼지는 않을 것이라고 생각합니다
Until 80s, Korea had censorship and there were a lot of songs expressing resistance and unity of general public used in protests. The time has passed and the younger generation is no longer familiar with such songs, and protests gradually became peaceful as the public were no longer supporting the violence. So when this crazy martial law has occurred, the young generation joined the protest for the first time in their lives, and they used k-pop instead of the old songs in the already built peaceful protesting tradition. That's how I view the current protests.
if we can distinguish people for democracy and constitution, and people for anti-democracy and anti-constitution, we will know this is not a political problem but more fundamental and basic thing which make a nation's regime. We people are the only owner of this country and have right to decide our democratic regime to go on.
70~80년대에는 소위 민중가요 라고 불리는 많은 노래들이 있었고 과거의 민주화투쟁의 한가운데에 그 민중가요들이 큰 자리를 차지했다. 그러나 그 시절은 시위대를 향한 독재세력의 거대한 폭력이 있었고, 그러한 폭력의 시대를 겪었던 사람들은 폭력은 더욱 심한 폭력을 불러올 뿐이란걸 알기에, 이제 우리는 평화적으로 그러나 대규모로 시위하는것을 선택했다
셋째, 한국인들도 그리고 민주(정치)제도도 완벽할 수는 없습니다 한 가지 확실한 것은 역사적으로 한국인들은 불의에 저항하여 더 낳은 세상(정치제도)을 만들려 했고 이 "갑작스런 비상계엄" 사태는 함께모인 국민들의 저항으로 빠르게 정상화 될 것입니다. 산책하며 생각도 같이 하게하는 영상 재미있게 보고 있습니다 감사합니다 ^^ 프란시스
I feel there are much deeper issues going on, which you probably don’t wish to explore on your RUclips channel. Korean society is a reflection of what is happening between the National Assembly and the President. Korean society is not prepared to change or doesn’t know how to, but somehow they expect the politicians to change. It’s not going to happen.
There probably are deeper issues, but I will take the neutral stance of an ethnographic anthropologist. Observing is enough for me during these interesting times! I want to go back to making travel content after this Saturday's protest lol
SK politics in very short brief Geography: East-Conservatives / West- Liberals, Distribution of population: Rural-Conservatives / Urban- Liberals Education relatively: less educated: Conservatives / more educated- Liberals but in this case(martial law) it's not about Conservatives vs Liberals, it is about RIGHT or WRONG
I like your take on Kpop and political activism and In my opinion it has to do with Asian cultural difference as well as the Loyalty to their homeland and patriotism. I watch a lot of Kdrama and they are always about loyalty and pride for the country and siding so it makes sense they protest well. In other countries I heard the French are experienced protestors but they are from different history and cultures. Thank you for the thought provoking content .
In 2013, then-President Lee Myung-bak clashed with protesters and fired water cannons and tear gas at citizens in the cold winter under the pretext of suppressing violent protests. There were actual deaths as a result. We do not engage in violent actions during protests so as not to provide a pretext for clashes. It was a harsh suppression that always occurred during the presidency of the right-wing regime. Even if the political police on the side of power are in charge of the protest site, they cannot stop legitimate, peaceful protests. My husband and I took our elementary school-aged daughter and one-year-old daughter to eighteen impeachment rallies in the cold winter to impeach Park Geun-hye. At the time, we were safe except when the extreme right-wingers, waving the American and Korean flags and supporting the dictator's daughter, verbally and physically abused and threatened the children for holding impeachment posters when they were near the protest site. Impeachment is an act of using the power granted by the people for personal gain or ignoring and endangering the safety of the country. And it is a demand of the people when the separation of powers is not maintained.(separation of legal, administrative, and judicial powers) Yoon Seok-yeol has violated all of them. Article 1 of the Constitution of the Republic of Korea ①The Republic of Korea is a democratic republic. ②The sovereignty of the Republic of Korea resides in the people, and all powers emanate from the people.
@@francoismarc3I've seen people with Press passes at the protest. I dont know if u have to apply for one or anything but maybe it'll help you out. In any case, stay safe in the crowd!
You’re totally entitled to get involved in the Korean politics! You have lived there many years and paid tax. The politics there affects your life. You may not be able to vote and it’s all the more reason why.
Despite you are a valuable citizen in South Korea, I think you would be better off just enjoying things Korea has to offer, not the politics. Please read my comment on your community forum to understand the current development
He is a foreigner . That does not mean he does not have an opinion or is not allowed to speak his mind. KOREA IS A FREE COUNTRY . Everyone including foreigners has the right to speak his/her mind.
The very important word in the Korean subtitle is mistranslated, so I'm a little nosy.... --;; It's not martial arts, it's martial law... It's a video about martial arts, and there's a subtitle... ( 계엄)Martial law
from these professors you'll understand Korean people better. ruclips.net/video/0gHchhLjPBg/видео.htmlsi=1QbaYJ4V5gBh3Cjq ruclips.net/p/PLQ9yg3_GTMEj31HvzLhGw2Bg4A25_NAK7&si=jIpSfu3ukRyTyqso
The political landscape in Korea these days is very exciting, As an American expat, it's so interesting to witness such a historical event that may never come to pass again! What do you all think about these times?!
President Yoon's No-Fly Ban: www.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1172237.html
President Yoon's likely scenarios: www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20241205050097
K-pop artists joining protests: www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2024/12/398_388120.html
I can't say K-Pop doesn't influence the protests at all, but I think the K-Pop is just a tool that keeps the protests getting together. In 80s and 90s, we sung some songs which have the lyrics that means protesting. In recent protests, many young generation participated and they are familiar with K-Pop.
One of the most important things for protests in Korea is non-violent, because if the protest is violent, opposite side focuses on the violence and distort the opinion of the protest. And another most important thing is showing how many people agree with the opinion and giving opponent pressure consecutively. So we need to spend a lot of time on the road. To do that, we utilize some songs which is old one or recent K-Pop for fun and boost the mood.
In conclusion, non-violent and some fun for lasting the protests is the most important thing in Korea as long as the protests take long time and is important one.
--------- This is just my own thought and could be different from the real fact.
댁의 의견에 완전 동의하는, 80년 광주에서 그 현장을 생생히 목격했던 할미입니다❤
Great addition to this content! Appreciate you!+
So... what you're saying is that Koreans are a civilized society! I concur whole heartedly! 🇰🇷
Koreans are strong and always come through especially difficult times 👍👍👍
It looks that way!!!
I'm from the generation of political protests in the 80s. The protests were often violent, mostly because the army responded with extreme brutality. However, we had protest songs that became our voice. These songs were banned by the government, and many of the artists were imprisoned, but we still sang them! And I still remember the lyrics.
Oh my...thank you for sharing this history with me!
"Democracy is about correcting your mistakes....", I can't agree more to that!
I loved that the commenter wrote that! It was so touching, intelligent, and practical!
You are doing fine Mr. Thanks for explaining things in English clearely!
Thank you so very much! The topic sounded good in my head, but I thought I didn't navigate the talking points well, but thanks for your support:)
한국을 좋아해줘서 정말 고마워요. 항상 좋은 일 가득하고 추운 날씨에 감기 조심하세요.
The hat is nice :)! Thank you for the good video☺️☺️
친구!!! 감사합니다!!! 제 모자가 너무 멋있어서요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
A true democracy indeed! Francois you need to thank your parents for raising you right on the daily young man. Good job and keep it up sir. 👍
큰 위기의 시기에 한국의 젊은이들이 대한민국의 밝은 미래를 보여주고 있습니다.
당신의 관심에 깊은 감사를 드립니다
Thanks for commenting:) I'm learning a lot these days:)
모자만 보면
알레스카인데 ㅋㅋ
잘 봤습니다.
한국 근현대사 공부해 보면
중심에는 학생들과 국민들이 있었죠.
잘 될겁니다. 추운 날 따뜻이 지내세요.
Hahaha thanks so much for liking my hat!:) And yes! Actually, these days I am learning Korean history and culture more deeply:)
Stay warm as well! It will get colder soon!
the very same events in about 8 yrs ago, many foreigners also appeared at the place to see what happened as watchers !
Woah, so maybe I can go and watch!!
welcome to korea to see how a historic k-democracy is developing here led by fresh young generation !!^^
Wow the Kazakh outfit is good and warm. I thought it looked like an Afro and suddenly had you singing ABC by the Jackson 😂
Hahahahahahajhaahhahahahahahah I wish I had an afro lol. This bald head hasn't seen hair in years hahahah
Protest culture changed with young people participating
I can see this change!!
내용이 정말 좋아요
잘 봤어오
Thank you for always supporting me!!!:)
As a Korean in my 20s, I never expected to witness the impeachment of a South Korean president twice. In 2017, the first female pesident Park, was removed from office following massive protests, partly fueled by public outrage over the Sewol Ferry disaster. Now, in 2024, president Yoon's handling of the Itaewon tragedy has further deepened the nation's discontent, including the martial law.
Martial law was a thing in the 80s where my grandparents generation experienced so it's shocking for us too. I hope this chaos ends by this Saturday and be the last protest. I recommend u to check out president Park protests cus the population is not comparable to yoon.
Omg...you have witnessed so much history as a young person! I'm interested to know how these events have shaped your political views! Thank you for telling me part of your story:)
@francoismarc3 Thanks for replying always! :) Many ppl in korea have an interest to politics including the students.
So the prosecutors in SK have the power to suspend the departures normally or the police. Like somali case, prosecutors done it to ban him. President Yoon has been banned from leaving the country by the Ministry of Justice amid a deepening political crisis. And there are three teams that are investigating him including the prosecutors & police.
Protests u saw with kpop, there were many uni students, youngsters in 20~30s. They used kpop to keep themselves energized at the cold weather in peaceful way ofc. This president made millennial generations move so he's in big trouble.
I think that having intelligent Kpop music, such as Ateez and many of the rappers has helped the South Korean youth to feel like they have a voice in their country.
It's often through art that societal changes are inspired.
Music that inspires and leads to positive and proactive thinking is always a great thing:)
Also I think In Korea the popular songs about country and homeland should influence people’s thinking. It is the same in Mongolia we have songs about love for the country and family. I was very surprised that most love songs in the US is only between man and a woman and so on.
This is true! The only songs I know that talk about love of the US are country songs, but it's not really about love of the country, but love of their immediate area. But country music definitely has patriotic spirits!
You are correct, that it is a domestic issue and as long as you do t hold Korean passport I think observe not participate.
Agreed, observation only!
p. s.
'you better join n enjoy them 2gather 'coz most protests iin Korea are like festivals
Hi, Francois!!!
You asked, "What is the connection between bringing the U.S. flag to a political rally/
protest in Korea?" First, as an American who has been living in Korea for almost 20 years, I love
and support Korea very much. I think the main reason is obviously, that the U.S. and Korea both have significant strategic alliances
when it comes to geopolitics in the region as you may know. So, it is in the interests of both
left and right in the political spectrum in Korea to show their solidarity and support for the U.S. because, without the
America's support, South Korea is in a very vulnerable situation, economically, politically, militarily, and diplomatically.
Korea and the U.S. both need each other but South Korea heavily depends/relies on America for national security in particular.
This is the reality!! I disagree with this statement, but some people even go as far as Korea being a vassal/proxy/puppet/pawn state to
the U.S. as well as Japan. Anyways, all you have to do is look at the
map of the Korean peninsula and its geographic surroundings. Korea is surrounded by many powerful countries like
China, Russia, Japan, and also hostile North Korea just a few miles above. Also, the U.S has a heavy military presence in the
Republic of Korea for many years for its protection. It is no secret that Korea has always been the victim of foreign invasion/occupation by many countries
throughout history even as far back as the Mongol invasion about eight hundred years ago.
Now, why K-pop stars do not tend to openly and expressively show their political views as American celebrities do, you ask?
Some do but most tend to keep it to themselves because it is not in their interest fearing retaliation and repercussion. Korea's
democracy and freedom especially when it comes to political freedom of speech and expression is very short and "different" compared to the U.S. It has gotten
a lot better recently but compared to the U.S., Korean people simply do not feel comfortable and it's still culturally a taboo thing. I hope you understand what I have
said here today. As always, peace and best wishes brother!! Have a great day!!
Woah, always providing such great insight! Really appreciate it, brotha! I learned a lot from this missive!!
@@francoismarc3 No problem Francois!!
K-pop 스타들이 왜 공개적 표현을 못하는지 알려드리죠. 이것은 문화와 관련되어 있습니다. 한국은 집단주의 세속주의 문화 입니다. 알다시피 오래전부터 쌀을 재배하는 농경문화는 인력이 집약적으로 사용되어야 하기에 지도자를 중심으로 집단적으로 움직여야 경작이 됩니다. 그래서 아시아 대부분은 집단주의가 발달되어 있습니다. 서양은 유목문화라 개인주의가 발달되었죠. 농경문화는 나보다 집단이 우선인 경우가 많아요. 그래서 남에게 해가되지 않도록 집단을 위해 눈치를 많이보죠. 일본이 대표적인 경우구요. 특히 한국은 빠른 경제성장을 하다보니 세속적인 '돈'이 최우선시 되고 게다가 집단주의도 같이 있다보니, 케이팝 스타가 내 목소리를 내면 경제적 손해가 되고 집단적으로 남에게 린치를 당할 가능성이 많습니다. 서양에선 개인의사의 표현일 뿐인데 말이죠. 한국에선 미국처럼 개인주의가 발달되지 않다보니 정치적 자유가 없는것처럼 보일 것입니다. 인정합니다. 그러나 집단주의가 힘을 발휘할때도 있는데 전쟁이 일어나거나(Korean war), 위험에 닥치거나(IMF in 1997), 국가적인 행사를 할때(2002 worldcup) 큰힘을 발휘 합니다. 그래서 이건 문화적 현상이기에 무엇이 잘못되었다 말할 수 없습니다.
정치적 행위에 성조기를 들고 가는 이유는 보수층 때문입니다. 보수층은 나이가 많고 여러 경험을 하였습니다. 저도 처음엔 이해가 안갔지만 그들에게 성조기는 나라를 구해주었으며 자유의 상징 입니다. 주변강국에 침입만 받다가 미국의 자유민주주의를 받아들이며 잘살게 되었으니까요. 반면 곧 정권을 잡을 것으로 예상되는 민주당 진보층은 평등을 바라 봅니다. 미국 및 일본과의 관계에서 더 목소리를 낼것이며 한미관계에 어려움이 예상됩니다.
Let me tell you why K-pop stars can't express themselves publicly. It's related to culture. Korea is a collectivist secular culture. As you know, the agricultural culture of growing rice has been intensive for a long time, so it has to be done by moving in groups centered around a leader. That's why most of Asia is collectivist. The West is a nomadic culture, so individualism has developed. In agricultural culture, the group often comes before oneself. So, they are very mindful of the group so as not to harm others. Japan is a typical example. In particular, Korea has experienced rapid economic growth, so worldly 'money' is the top priority, and on top of that, collectivism exists, so if K-pop stars speak up, they suffer economic losses and are likely to be lynched by others. In the West, it's just an expression of individual opinion. In Korea, individualism is not as developed as in the US, so it may seem like there is no political freedom. I admit it. However, there are times when collectivism exerts its power, such as when there is a war (Korean War), danger (IMF in 1997), or a national event (2002 World Cup). Therefore, this is a cultural phenomenon, so there is no wrong way to say anything.
The reason why they carry the American flag for political activities is because of the conservatives. The conservatives are older and have experienced a lot. I didn't understand it at first, but to them, the American flag saved the country and is a symbol of freedom. They were invaded by neighboring powers, but they accepted American liberal democracy and started living well. On the other hand, the progressive Democratic Party, which is expected to take power soon, hopes for equality. They will make more voice in their relationship with the US and Japan, and difficulties are expected in the Korea-US relationship.
Yes. Our ancestors use sarcastic ways to make fun of people who are in power from a long, long time ago. Singing and dancing are big parts of protesting. Many stories ridicule powerful people with singing and dancing
President is not above law!
There is law to protect the country’s best interests.
Thank you!!
Really interesting take on it all... Also, yes, i love the hat and rest of the garb, but also love that you started the vid from your letcern!
I felt very good wearing the Kazakh traditional clothes lol. Like a real king hahah. I'm super interested in this phenomenon because Korea has a highly educated society with aboit 80% percent of the population having received degrees, as far as the research I read states. So I'm wondering now if this educated population will begin to focus their academic acumen more on politics. What will happen to future would-be leaders when they need the people's vote. So interesting to think! I want to do more videos from my classrooms and office!
Throughout their long history, Korean students have always been very proactive in their fight for freedom and democracy for hundreds of years (like the March First Movement, etc.) And they often used music to promote solidarity. The only difference among generations is obviously their choices of music/ songs. In the 1960's their choice of songs were more solemn I'd say. But this young "M-Z" generations aren't familiar with older Korean songs and chose to use K-pop songs/ parodies that are more upbeat. Proof that these younger generations are in tune with current politics (to the surprise of many older generations) and more hopeful and positive in their messages. They are NOT "influenced" by K-pop, but rather using it for their best expression/ message of hope and resilience.
Great message!!!!
Have you ever seen any country National Assembly Congres opened at Saturday?😊Have you ever seen any country National Assembly Congres opened at Saturday?😊
첫째, 한국의 음악(가곡 가요 K pop)의 일부는 1900년을 전후해서 왕정과 일본의 강제점령에 항거한 동학운동과 독립운동을 거쳐 1960~80년대에는 군사독재에 저항하는 민주화 운동에서 중요한 역할을 했고 이는 세대를 거쳐 현재의 MZ들에게 직접 또는 간접적 영향을 끼쳤고 앞으로도 그럴거라 믿습니다. 특히 대한민국 헌법 서문에도 이러한 불의에 대항하는 정신을 계승한다고 명시되어있습니다.
1. 가곡 가요 K pop의 예: 새야새야 파랑새야, 울밑에선 봉선화야, 아침이슬, 그대에게, 다시만난 세계 등
2. 헌법전(서)문: 유구한 역사와 전통에 빛나는 우리 대한국민은 3.1운동으로 건립된 대한민국임시정부의 법통과 불의에 항거한4.19민주 이념을 계승하고, 조국의 민주개혁과 평화적 통일의 사명에 입각하여 정의·인도와 동포애로써 민족의 단결을 공고히 하고, 모든 사회적 폐습과 불의를 타파하며, 자율과 조화를 바탕으로 자유 민주적 기본질서를 더욱 확고히 하여 정치·경제·사회의 모든 영역에 있어서 각인의 기회를 균등히 하고, 능력을 최고도로 발휘하게 하며, 자유와 권리에 따르는 책임과 의무를 완수하게 하여, 안으로는 국민생활의 균등한 향상을 기하고 밖으로는 항구적인 세계평화와 인류공영에 이바지함으로써 우리들과 우리들의 자손의 안전과 자유와 행복을 영원히 확보할 것을 다짐하면서 1948년 7월 12일에 제정되고 8차에 걸쳐 개정된 헌법을 이제 국회의 의결을 거쳐 국민투표에 의하여 개정한다.1987년 10월 29일
You taught me a lot about history here! Thank you so very much. Now I will do more research!:)
@@francoismarc3 Thank you Francois^^ for your observation that makes me think more about what we see around us.
President and government officials are serving the people of Korea not being rulers. Koreans earned their democracy. You are free to go to the protest if you want because it’s free country.
Observe from a distance! You are correct you could jeopardize your job.
Korea is much more civilized than America. They are respectful.
Love your hat and coat!💙🕊️
Hahaha thanks for liking my outfit! Yes, observe from a distance, thank you!!!
폭력은 폭력을 낳는다는 것을 역사를 통해 배웠기에 시위도 평화적으로 하는 거예요~
노동자를 위한 민중가요부터 요샌 젊은 청년들이 집회에 나와서 kpop을 부르거나 캐롤송도 탄핵을 담은 가사로 바꿔부르기도 하죠~
원래 흥과 한이 민족이라서 사람들이 모이면 즐기면서 해결하려 합니다 ㅋㅋ
That's a great lesson to learn!! History always teaches something!
대통령 계엄도 헌법에 보장되고 있으면, 단 과연
국가안보가 위태로운 상황이냐 판단의 여지가
있고 시위도 헌법에 보장된 언론 표현의 자유
이고 어떤 것이 정의냐는 각자의 판단입니다
Thank you so very much for sharing!!
대통령의 출국금지는 수사기관에서 법무부에 요청하면 법무부가 판단하여 결정을 내리는 것입니다.
Ah, so you mean the ministry of justice has the ability to ban the president from leaving the country?
@@francoismarc3 네 맞아요. 범죄혐의가 있는 사람들이 해외로 도망가버리면 수사에 지장이 있으니까요. 법앞에 평등한데 대통령이라고 다르겠어요?
둘째, 대한민국은 양심에 따라 믿는 바를 표현할 수 있는 자유가 보장된 나라입니다. 지금의 시위도 그 자유를 지키고 더 확대하기 위한 것입니다. 프란시스님이 시위에 참가 하든 아니든 저는 님의 선택을 존중하고 한국 정부도 이를 비자 발급의 기준으로 삼지는 않을 것이라고 생각합니다
Ah, thank you so much! I just want to go and observe, not to demonstrate! I will ask my job for permission first!:) Thank you so much!!
Until 80s, Korea had censorship and there were a lot of songs expressing resistance and unity of general public used in protests. The time has passed and the younger generation is no longer familiar with such songs, and protests gradually became peaceful as the public were no longer supporting the violence. So when this crazy martial law has occurred, the young generation joined the protest for the first time in their lives, and they used k-pop instead of the old songs in the already built peaceful protesting tradition. That's how I view the current protests.
Thank you for providing me with this intel!
if we can distinguish people for democracy and constitution, and people for anti-democracy and anti-constitution, we will know this is not a political problem but more fundamental and basic thing which make a nation's regime. We people are the only owner of this country and have right to decide our democratic regime to go on.
Thank you for sharing:)
70~80년대에는 소위 민중가요 라고 불리는 많은 노래들이 있었고 과거의 민주화투쟁의 한가운데에 그 민중가요들이 큰 자리를 차지했다. 그러나 그 시절은 시위대를 향한 독재세력의 거대한 폭력이 있었고, 그러한 폭력의 시대를 겪었던 사람들은 폭력은 더욱 심한 폭력을 불러올 뿐이란걸 알기에, 이제 우리는 평화적으로 그러나 대규모로 시위하는것을 선택했다
Thank you for sharing this valuable information:)
셋째, 한국인들도 그리고 민주(정치)제도도 완벽할 수는 없습니다 한 가지 확실한 것은 역사적으로 한국인들은 불의에 저항하여 더 낳은 세상(정치제도)을 만들려 했고 이 "갑작스런 비상계엄" 사태는 함께모인 국민들의 저항으로 빠르게 정상화 될 것입니다. 산책하며 생각도 같이 하게하는 영상 재미있게 보고 있습니다 감사합니다 ^^ 프란시스
Thank you for the history and culture lessons!! I like walking and talking, as you see, so thanks again for joining me on this walk and talk!:)
I feel there are much deeper issues going on, which you probably don’t wish to explore on your RUclips channel.
Korean society is a reflection of what is happening between the National Assembly and the President.
Korean society is not prepared to change or doesn’t know how to, but somehow they expect the politicians to change.
It’s not going to happen.
There probably are deeper issues, but I will take the neutral stance of an ethnographic anthropologist. Observing is enough for me during these interesting times!
I want to go back to making travel content after this Saturday's protest lol
SK politics in very short brief
Geography: East-Conservatives / West- Liberals,
Distribution of population: Rural-Conservatives / Urban- Liberals
Education relatively: less educated: Conservatives / more educated- Liberals
but in this case(martial law) it's not about Conservatives vs Liberals, it is about RIGHT or WRONG
Thank you for your opinion!!!:)
I like your take on Kpop and political activism and In my opinion it has to do with Asian cultural difference as well as the Loyalty to their homeland and patriotism. I watch a lot of Kdrama and they are always about loyalty and pride for the country and siding so it makes sense they protest well.
In other countries I heard the French are experienced protestors but they are from different history and cultures.
Thank you for the thought provoking content .
Hmmm, this is an interesting take on the matter. Thanks for sharing your opinion!
You look like Ronaldoinho in thumbnail.
Lol I guess it's a compliment? Hahahah
한국의 국격은 국민에서 국민으로부터 나온다!
Wow, big statement!!!
In 2013, then-President Lee Myung-bak clashed with protesters and fired water cannons and tear gas at citizens in the cold winter under the pretext of suppressing violent protests. There were actual deaths as a result. We do not engage in violent actions during protests so as not to provide a pretext for clashes. It was a harsh suppression that always occurred during the presidency of the right-wing regime. Even if the political police on the side of power are in charge of the protest site, they cannot stop legitimate, peaceful protests. My husband and I took our elementary school-aged daughter and one-year-old daughter to eighteen impeachment rallies in the cold winter to impeach Park Geun-hye. At the time, we were safe except when the extreme right-wingers, waving the American and Korean flags and supporting the dictator's daughter, verbally and physically abused and threatened the children for holding impeachment posters when they were near the protest site. Impeachment is an act of using the power granted by the people for personal gain or ignoring and endangering the safety of the country. And it is a demand of the people when the separation of powers is not maintained.(separation of legal, administrative, and judicial powers)
Yoon Seok-yeol has violated all of them. Article 1 of the Constitution of the Republic of Korea
①The Republic of Korea is a democratic republic.
②The sovereignty of the Republic of Korea
resides in the people,
and all powers emanate from the people.
What a lesson you taught me. Thank you for taking time to type this:)
이번주에도 k시위 취재 부탁해요~
I will go watch, but only to observe and record, I will not protest:)
@@francoismarc3I've seen people with Press passes at the protest. I dont know if u have to apply for one or anything but maybe it'll help you out. In any case, stay safe in the crowd!
한국 연예계 종사자들도 예전에는 미국처럼 정치에 관심을 많이 표현했지만 어느 순간 정치적 의견을 표현하기만 해도 블랙리스트에 올라갔기 때문에 관심 표현하는 사람들이 줄어들었습니다. 한강 작가, 봉준호 감독, 몇몇 웹툰 작가 등이 블랙리스트에 올라갔죠.
I understand. Thank you for sharing!!
I think Korea history issue to young gen care the politics other countries is not interesting
What do you mean??
@francoismarc3 idk how to explain.... sorry
@boomyitv no worries") Thank you at least for sharing!
You’re totally entitled to get involved in the Korean politics! You have lived there many years and paid tax. The politics there affects your life. You may not be able to vote and it’s all the more reason why.
Despite you are a valuable citizen in South Korea, I think you would be better off just enjoying things Korea has to offer, not the politics. Please read my comment on your community forum to understand the current development
Exactly! I don't need to involve myself in politics and I will not, but this situation is history, so I must enjoy documenting it:)
@@francoismarc3 Remember to document both parties
He is a foreigner .
That does not mean he does not have an opinion or is not allowed to speak his mind. KOREA IS A FREE COUNTRY . Everyone including foreigners has the right to speak his/her mind.
The very important word in the Korean subtitle is mistranslated, so I'm a little nosy.... --;;
It's not martial arts, it's martial law... It's a video about martial arts, and there's a subtitle...
( 계엄)Martial law
Thank you for correcting that:) The subtitles are not accurate all the time:)
from these professors you'll understand Korean people better.
ruclips.net/video/0gHchhLjPBg/видео.htmlsi=1QbaYJ4V5gBh3Cjq
ruclips.net/p/PLQ9yg3_GTMEj31HvzLhGw2Bg4A25_NAK7&si=jIpSfu3ukRyTyqso
I'll take a look! Thank you!!