Mike Portnoy Learns Pneuma On The Spot || Drummer Analysis and Reaction
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Today on the channel, we are looking at an amazing video from @DrumeoOfficial. If you haven't yet, head over to their channel and look at the amazing things they are (and have been) doing for the drumming community! @MikePortnoyDT1 is learning the song "Pneuma" originally performed by the phenomenal Danny Carey! This video has to be seen by EVERY drummer because it has so many nuggets of wisdom when learning a new song! Hope you all enjoy as much as I did! #reaction #mikeportnoy #dannycarey #drumeo #pneuma #drums #drummer #drumlessons #drumming
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Mike took on the ULTIMATE challenge! How do you think he did?! 👇🏻👇🏻
9:17 - “shoutout to Drumeo” shoutout to you, bro! I’m not a drummer, so I rely on you “drummer/reactors” (❤) to explain everything to me. And I’m so F-img here for it!! ☺️
Drumeo, and Estepario, will be responsible for a “different type of drummer” era, being able to understand and even attempt to play these songs… it’s going to click for a handful of crazy minds, and the next generation of alien drummer will be unleashed!! I cant wait! 👽 🥁🤘
@@nicocrinkleburg Really appreciate that!! This was such a killer video and glad that you enjoyed it! Thanks for hanging out!
Portnoy and Carey are on my Mt. Rushmore of drummers.
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Portnoy and Carey are Far from The best, most technical and complex drummers
@@82mangini I don’t disagree BUT they are still phenomenal! Mangini is far more technical than Portnoy who I also admire. Guys like Steve Smith, Matt Garstka, Thomas Lang, and the list goes on and on, are probably all more technical and still fun to watch! So many great drummers out there for sure, BUT Portnoy and Carey are at the top of the list with the others. When you reach that level of mastery it becomes preference to styles many times. Thanks for hanging out!
@@82mangini Technical, complex and even “best” aren’t the only things that matter. Mike Portnoy would have Bonham, Ringo and Keith Moon on his Rushmore, even FARTHER from being the most technical, complex or best drummers. A person’s Mount Rushmore is based on the overall impact a drummer had to them based on their own musical tastes. People who are into prog metal will likely have Carey and MP on their Rushmore, the same as people who love classic rock might have a John Bonham or Moon
idiots@@82mangini
As a drummer myself, absolutely insane to learn this song the way he did in that amount of time. There's a reason why you're my biggest inspiration Portnoy!
Yeah it’s wild! Such a fun and educational video! Loved every minute of it!
It's wild to see two artists that you think of as being the very upper echelon and how much it takes for them to learn what the other did.
Hope they have Danny come in and do Dance of Eternity or something.
Right? That would be awesome!
Stream Of Consciousness to me is actually more difficult than DOE.
I always say the same thing. It’s one thing to learn someone’s part, but understand the process that it took to write it. The time and effort that goes into some of these songs should be appreciated more than the final result.
💯 Thanks for swinging by and hanging out! This was definitely an epic video that DRUMEO put out! They are doing big things over there!
9:17 - “shoutout to Drumeo” shoutout to you, bro! I’m not a drummer, so I rely on you “drummer/reactors” (❤) to explain everything to me. And I’m so F-img here for it!! ☺️
Drumeo, and Estepario, will be responsible for a “different type of drummer” era, being able to understand and even attempt to play these songs… it’s going to click for a handful of crazy minds, and the next generation of alien drummer will be unleashed!! I cant wait! 👽 🥁🤘
That Drumeo video, is really monumental. Understanding what Miike is actually accomplishing Herr, is tough for people who aren't musicians.
💯 It’s amazing and DRUMEO are the real MVP’s!
I like this video even more than the others bc you see him taking real time and sweating over it. It’s not a 1 time thing and you feel the challenge.
Exactly! Such a great video to learn from!
Young musicians have to understand that it's not easy, it's normal to struggle, and it takes time. It won't come overnight for any instrument. We are watching one of the best drummers in history take an entire work day to learn a 12 minute song with 10 minutes of drumming in it, and he still can't play the whole thing through in one take. The only reason he was able to pull it off at all was his love for drumming. If you don't love your instrument, kids, you won't put yourself through this. Never give up if you are learning something that you love doing. The difference between success and failure is that you stick it out long enough for other people to quit before you do. Never fear failure, because we have all dealt with failure.
Yesssss! Such great words of wisdom! Thanks so much for sharing and glad you swung by the channel! Have a great one!
I tried learning this song a few years back, in my last year of High School. The time signatures are insane. I just count it as 6+6+4+6+7. Total time signature is 33/4, which is nuts. Giving this to Mike Portnoy was definitely a challenge for him.
Shewee that’s wild! Such an amazing tune!
There's a lot of ppl on the video giving Portnoy crap for taking so long to grasp it... it didn't even take him that long for how complex the song is, most drummers practice for months to learn technical songs that they're going to audition for. most of the drummers that learnt "Dance of Eternity" for the DT were practicing for months & some of them still stuffed up on parts & played incorrectly.
I agree! It’s hilarious how everyone is an expert BUT I guarantee you they could not learn that song as quickly or even be able to play it at all for that matter. It’s meant to show the process and I thought Mike and DRUMEO did an excellent job!
This video is inspirational for one main reason, it shows that even the best drummers struggle with some things. It’s for all the young drummers out there that they shouldn’t be discouraged if they don’t work something out right away even for the best it takes a while for something to click
Yes!!!! So true! It shows we are all human and with hard work we can be as good as the legends! Hopefully it inspires the young kids to keep practicing!
He seems like such a nice guy. I love that he switched up the sun glasses for the big guns complete with multifocal lenses 😆 Mr. Portnoy getting serious! And that was utterly fascinating even for us non musicians.
Watching your face as you obviously put yourself in Mikes shoes was great. Thanks! 😊
Glad you enjoyed the video!
I listened to the original video without being able to see it because I was working. Holy crap was this amazing!!!!!?!!!? I appreciate your take on this as this was a grueling endeavor.
Thank you for watching! I honestly enjoyed every minute of it! I love seeing the process of how top tier musicians like Mike learn such complex tunes! Have a great one!
I've learned a couple of Tool songs over time to play in front of a crowded club, and obviously it was a huge task, but the thing that has always impressed me is Danny playing whole concerts of multiple works of art that at times are very different from one to the other and going back to back is just insane.
That’s awesome that you’ve learned some of their tunes though! That’s quite the undertaking! I haven’t even attempted it! 🤣
Your accent is so strong in someways that I kept on wondering why you were mentioning sad notes that weren’t sad at all. Love the video.
🤣😂 That gave me a good laugh! Thanks for swinging by!
That was incredible, WELL DONE!! Mike, you are a Badass!!😆😆
He’s such a BEAST! Thanks for watching!
FULL VIDEO - LFG!!
You just see Mike getting more and more comfortable
Exactly! I loved watching the process! DRUMEO are legends for providing this content to the world!
For me, this showed how these guys at this level are playing their way. Practice hard, play a lot and you can come up with some “out there” ideas! I might be a bedroom musician but I really appreciate the understanding of music and the open mind to break those rules, your way! Also,thinking differently for your instrument. It’s a masterclass in how to be you while still creating a musical piece that can be popular.
Very well put! Thanks for watching!
What's funny is that Danny is currently learning Bill Bruford's King Crimson Discipline/Beat era work for that tour this summer/fall. So I think he's in his own version of hell LOL
🤣😂 Sounds about right!
Bruford is no easy drummer himself! Knowing Carey he'll pull through playing one of his inspirations' masterpieces!
Saw that one yesterday. Thanks for posting it today. I mean its like this is his test from Jordan if he still has it to rejoin DT and yes he has not lost it.
This challenge is unfair. You can't master a complex song outside your usual style after just a few listens. Even if a highly technical player like Mangini were given the song, while he might easily grasp the time signatures, he could still struggle with capturing the song's feel if it's not in his preferred style, much like Dennis did with "Schism."
No doubt BUT I think it’s not about mastering it but showing other drummers the process of learning such a complex tune! Amazing video!
Mangini would have grasped the time signatures quicker, but he wouldn't have had feeling to play this Danny Carey part as good as Portnoy imo, I know well enough to know that. Mangini can't even play the Sprirt Carries On properly & that's a piss ez song compared to this.
Mangini eats and sleeps polyrhythms. I prefer Portnoy but this song is way more suited for mangini.
I think I'm gonna give it a shot learning Pneuma now
Great reaction mate , really enjoyed your take
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed the video!
Portnoy❤❤❤
Such a BEAST!!! 🔥
I'm not a fan of Dream Thater but there is no denying they are talented. Portnoy's a bad ass! JFC the drums sound so sexy.
Yeah Dream Theater is definitely an acquired taste! Portnoy is a beast though, along with Danny Carey! Both LEGENDS!
@@setonhillstudios Tool is an acquired taste too. I just never got the taste for DT! Yep! Imo Danny is probably the best drummer.
Never really listened to dreamtheater . Just not my thing. But this shows how good portnoy really is imo. ❤
No doubt! DT ain’t for everyone. Definitely an acquired taste but they are crazy talented! Thanks for watching! 🤘🏻
A complete beast!
Absolutely!
If Portnoy learns Pneuma in less than 5 hours imagine The super drummers like Virgil Donati, Thomas Lang, Marco Minnemann, Jason Rullo, Matt Garstka!!!!!
@@82mangini Great list of drummers there! Unreal players!
In a strange twist of irony, Danny Carrey is booked to play Foo Fighters
🤣😂 They should act like he is and send it to Mike!
This was a hilarious example of torturing someone to even further greatness.
With your eyes closed you will be hard pressed to listen for differences while keeping enough focus to not just enjoy it and stop caring. Magnificent
🤣😂 Mike took it in stride though! I loved everything about this video! Shout out to DRUMEO and everyone involved!
@@setonhillstudios His reactions are really hilarious. Lose my number I don't want the gig 😂😂
Next dana will do a foo fighters song 😂just to poke fun 😂
@@annebokma4637 Haha 🤣😂 I know right! I would love to see Danny come in and do “Dance of Eternity!” That would be EPIC!
@@setonhillstudios I'll allow it as an encore 😇😜😎
@@annebokma4637 😂🤣
Portnoy is an amazing drummer. One of the very best in my view. But Danny is extremely different style. Any drummer would find this just a nightmare.
No doubt! Both drummers are such inspirations to the drumming community. This was such an awesome video!
Thank you! Someone with some sense in the comments section 😊
Didn't know Gergo Borlai did reaction videos !!!!!
Hahaha 🤣 Hey If I could drum half as good as him I’d be doing big things!
Mike did it and he proved he has a copper balls
Haha 🤣😂 No doubt! A huge undertaking!
He did not play it correctly. Not saying he did not do a good job but this one kicked his ass.
@@ronaldloboda7509 yeah it's divine level as dance of eternity
It takes all his energy to do it
I guess 90% achieve
@@ronaldloboda7509 5h....
Just go to drumeo and watch it on their channel since they made this video
And they did a phenomenal job! 👍🏻
Most of us probably already watched it on Drumeo dude. I did. Just wanted to support another channel, that’s all
@@McCarlKnoxville Thanks for your kindness!
I wonder how long it would take Mike to learn this song. That was great. Love me some Tool. They are in my top 3 bands with Opeth and Karnivool. I would love to see Steve Judd on Drumeo or Martin Axenrot
What work of percussion can we give to confound one of the greatest percussionists in Mike Portnoy to ever live? Danny Carey: You rang?
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Dude was literally there almost 6 hours filming this. It’s insane 😅 poor Portnoy
It’s really crazy
Have a feeling Danny was haunting Mike's dreams later that night. 😂
🤣😂 No doubt about that one!
I'm not a drummer but you can always pick a great musician by how they can stuff up but not lose it. Just get straight back on with it. Whereas those without that experience muck it up more.
You should check out Jordan Rudess on Pianote he hears and plays Alicia Keys for the first time.
Oh snap! I bet that’s EPIC! Jordan is such a BEAST! Thanks for the suggestion
Human beast 😮
No doubt about it! 💯
Actually, it says at the end that the whole parts of this song were edited. So he never played the song in 1 take. They made that a disclaimer, funny you didn't noticed it.....
Mike Portnoy & Neil Peart ---> the 2 best drummers ever walked on this mf planet 😊!
Two of my favorites and LEGENDS indeed! Thanks for swinging by the channel!
No, they are not The best drummers. Not even close
Why are you here then@@82mangini
@@82mangini who are then?
@dmitridonika6189 Easy question
Virgíl Donati
Thomas Lang
Marco Minnemann
Jason Rullo
Matt Garstka
Dave Weckl
Bruno Valverde
Demétrius Locks
Vinnie Colaiuta
Horacio el negro Hernandez
Tool plays without a click btw. Crazy.
That is wild that they are that tight without a click! Unreal!
Most of the greats did the same thing. Not knocking Danny, he’s amazing, but not playing to a click is nothing new, fyi
@@McCarlKnoxvilleLol WTF ur talking about. Its super crazy considering their polyrithms, time signatures etc.
If that's nothing crazy explain me why Rick Beato is
SHOCKED and tell its super crazy they don't play on click in this interview?
Yea it is super crazy considering howmthey play, they are not AC/DC lol.
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what you are saying in 21:30 can be said the same thing about the 7empest too
Cool, but todays song is Pneuma
Have you heard Dan Vascs opera song Dessun Norma if not it’s a must and I still love Mike Mangini I like them both but Mike is more technically sound but this is great
Both drummers are phenomenal in their own right! I’m excited to have Portnoy back in DT though to see what magic they can create!
Portnoy and Carey are good drummers but they are not among The 20 most advanced drummers ever
This was sort of mean to do to any drummer no matter what skill level. Not only is the tune very difficult to learn but it's played in a very "Danny Carry" specific way. Even when others cover it well, you can tell when it's not Danny. His fills, timing and overall feel are unique to him. This isn't just mean, it's an act of war and Portnoy should get them back for this.
🤣😂 I think it was a great learning resource especially for younger drummers! It shows the process of learning an insanely difficult song even for one of the best drummers on the planet!
I'm wondering where does Drumeo get these transcriptions... Cuz now that I'm counting it (again), if you go offa Maynard, it kinda sounds like its 6 6 8 6 7. Which is already crazy, but throw in some 3's in there, and It's impossible to keep up.😅 I liked Brandon's theory of it being 12 11 10, but it doesn't really groove that way for me. Also, would've been funny if they presented the song by It's name only and he would've thought It's the 'Numa Numa' -song. 😂
the verse is easier to count 12, 11, 10. 6+6 =12 5+6 =11 5+5=10
He didn’t learn it on the spot. He learned about 50% of it. The fills and the entire middle section he didn’t even try to play.
You learn the bare bones of this tune in 5 hours and get back to us. The point of the video was to give props to Danny and showcase a master learning something totally alien to him.
@ 33:41 Mike totally cream's himself.
not really. he kinda bitched out. Portnoy can only play his stuff (or Beatles tunes). He’s a great drummer and drum writer, but he proved he has a short ceiling in terms of on-the-fly learning. Compare to someone like Mangini or Marco or T Lang who had to learn his compositions on the fly, and you understand why there’s levels. Could I learn Pneuma to be feasible in 5 hours? probs not. but I’m not making millions as a pro drummer. he is. so don’t even argue that weak point with me.
I think the video is meant to be more educational because it shows drummers, especially younger ones, the process of learning a complex tune. Either way, I thoroughly enjoyed it 🤷🏻♂️
He did a great job but definitely didn’t nail it. I find it really interesting on the different levels of drummers. You have your portnoys, pearts, manginis, But on the higher almost untouchable levels of drumming you have your Vinnie Calautti, Dave Weckl. They would be able to play this song blindfolded with one arm behind their back and learn it within one hour max, almost guaranteed. It’s frightening how good some master players are compared to “rock level” that were witnessing here.
? Portnoy is definitely up there. Lmao 😂 he doesn’t live everyday to try a one up everyone. Like he said.. it’s one thing to write the music yourself, but a whole other thing to try and emulate someone else’s part. Show some respect and I think Danny would appreciate you taking your head out of his booty 😂
Do you play music?
🤔 huh? Didn't sound the same at all
It obviously wasn’t gonna be played note for note in 5 hours but I think it was more about showing young drummers the process of learning such a complex tune. This song is one of the toughest tunes ever recorded and Mike did a great job in the short amount of time he had. Thanks for watching!
You missed the point of the program. It’s not supposed to sound the same… it’s their interpretation and style put on the track. 😊
I just can't give Tool too much credit for writing a song like this.. If it takes you 10 years of screwing around, doing side projects, and touring as Tool all during those 10 years to pull together an album worth of material, in my opinion, just don't bother. Get in the damn studio or not.. NO BAND should take ten years to write new music unless they break up sometime during recording. Sorry, no props given here. Mike Portnoy gets all the love because he didn't get that decade of headspace.
Another person thinking they are owed something.
@@stephenknox2346 What are you talking about?? No one owes me anything.. Another person thinking things into something another person might say or did say.. People like you are fucking weird.
10 years is a long time to create an album but if you gave me 50 years I highly doubt I could come up with something as intricate as this. Either way, I am excited to see what the new Dream Theater album is gonna sound like now that Portnoy is back! Gonna be sick! Thanks for swinging by!
@@setonhillstudios I made my comment out of experience. I've been writing, recording, touring for a VERY long time. From that experience alone I can assure you that it should never take a decade to make an album. Complex music can always be dissected and consumed bit by bit until it becomes second nature. Maynard himself has gone on record and basically echoing my comment confirming he thinks it's ridiculous as well.
As far as Dream Theater is concerned, I think having Mike back in the band was a huge positive step. He is such a master musician and writer. I'm looking forward to the new stuff. Promise you it won't take a decade though.. LOL..
@@DecapitatedPlaythings That’s awesome you’ve been entrenched in music so long! And hopefully it won’t take DT too long! 🤘🏻🔥
He did not learn it on the spot. 5 1/2 and still did not play it correctly. Stop blowing smoke up his butt. He finally met his match as we all do.
The point is to see the progression and how younger drummers can see the process of learning such a complex tune. He still did an amazing job in such a short amount of time!
Lol found another wrong opinion.
He did a phenomenal job for learning it in 5.5 hours maybe idk chill out and appreciate the attempt
Do you play? How about you record yourself playing this so we can all clown you. This comments section is awful I swear. 😂
Bro that's fucking wrong, did you ever play a instrument in your life?