Does this 59 Count?!
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Big fan of the channel. Not a fan of this video.
That's a horrible take. A 59 is a 59. Did anyone else shoot a 59 this week with preferred lies? And short course? I mean guys what's going on with this nonsense.
Ole Ricky Spiels couldn’t shoot a 59 if he was given 20 mulligans. I can already see him out there claiming that his left duck hook was taken by the wind 😂😂😂
If you were listening you would heard him say that if you shoot a course record with preferred lies it is invalid. It is literally called preferred lies. It is plain easier than playing everything as it lies. I would be upset if I shot 60 under normal conditions and then someone comes around and shoots a 59 fluffing up their lie and giving themselves perfect set ups
Their point is valid
This is why people hate golf, I shoot a 59 I shoot a 59, doesn't matter if someone decided it was preferred lies. I could legit give myself a perfect setup every shot and NEVER get close to a 59. Its like saying the 1972 Miami Dolphins didnt have a perfect season because they only played 14 games back then. As you Brits would say, that is bollocks.
Guy moves his ball and takes dodgy drops during break 75 videos and is going on about asterisks.
A complete bell end.
Didn’t he drop another ball recently after losing one instead of going back to where he last played, then counted his score?🤔
It is a 59, but… If you were to compare it to most other sub-60 scores, it probably wouldn’t rank high on the list, but still impressive.
11 under par with no mulligans is a crazy score regardless
Big fan of the channel. This is a horrible take. They even talked about other sub 60 rounds that were lift clean and place on the broadcast
I wouldn't turn down a 59 on a par 60. Lol
Fun fact. Al Geibergers 59 was also preferred lies…
He shot a score most PGA pros could not shoot on that course regardless of preferred lies or distance - and during a tournament no less (as proven by the weekend). His 59 is cool as hell in my books.
I would say it’s harder to shoot a 59 on a par 70 over a par 72 where there’s more par 5s for these pros to eat up and have a few more birdies or Eagles.
You would be wrong. 59 is total shots. Not score in relation to par. With your logic a par 3 course will be tougher to shoot 59 cause there are no par 5’s.
@@Venter0911 my point is more about being able to get as many under Par as possible and for these guys Par 5s give them more opportunity to make eagles than on Par 4s. Surely the more opportunities you have the better the chance of going as low as 59. The odds of these guys making 2-3 eagles on Par 5s is far better than holing out a second shot 2-3 times in a round.
@@scottkennedy6514 -13 on a par 72 is easier than -13 on a par 70, yes. But 59 is a score, not “x under par”. If I give you a par3 course and you make 18 pars you shoot 54(level par), 5 better than 59. Without making a single birdie. The lower the par the easier to hit less shots.
An eagle on a par 5 is 3 shots. A birdie on a par 4 is 3 shots. Birdie or eagle doesn’t matter, 3 shots is 3 shots. Don’t count birdies or eagles, count shots.⛳️👊🏻
@@Venter0911 you’re just trying to be a smartarse, you know that in this context they’re talking about being under par with the magic number of 59 being their ultimate goal. Challenging my comment with your Par 3 course comment is just ludicrous, it’s worse than saying it’s easier to shoot a 59 on a 9 hole Par 36 course. Do one!!!!!
@@scottkennedy6514 I don’t get why you are getting angry though 😂 shooting -11 on a par70 course is easier than shooting -13 on a par 72. Not that tough to understand.
I shot a scratch 63 at Turnhouse golf club Edinburgh in the late 90’s to beat my father for the first time ever, he claimed it didn’t count because it was winter greens and tees 😂 I’m still claiming it.
59 is a 59 whatever the course.
Hole in 1 is a hole in 1 however long or if your off a mat.
Stop with all the “asterisk” bollocks..
You play the course as it is on the day, whatever you shoot, you shoot..
When you play a break 75 it’s significantly easier on a par 67/68, than 72/73 but it’s still a break 75 if you do🤷🏻♂️
It’s time Guy went back to just producing the show off camera has become obnoxious
Shocking take. Wtf are you guys on about 🤡.
Also, I love you both.
yes it counts, thank you mr break 80
What even is this? Lol
Rick and Guy, I love most of your videos but this is just what?
Why is this even a point of discussion? He followed local rules and shot a fantastic round. Leave it at that. Why even go into the discussion of "does it count"? Since when were either of you some type of golf "purists" playing strictly by the PGA rules? This is just silly from the both of you.
If ya shoot 59 to play 18holes, its 59 and it counts in my books.... Tournaments played preferred lies should also have a * next to their name on the trophy... Its really not going to matter
No course record so obviously doesn't count... That means Al Geiberger is not "Mr 59" and Bryson didn't shoot a 58.
Disagree heavily on the 2nd part about 59 being better on a part 72 than a 70 or 71. It doesnt matter at all. Usually a par 70 just mean 2 of the potential shorter par 5s were convered into long par 4s. Its not an easier course because its a lower par
the take on preferred lies in the video probably aligns with how the governing bodies sees the rule though? ie that the rule gives players an advantage compared to when the rule isnt in place. Which in itself seems contradictory. The rule is in place to even the playing field when conditions are such that the player would normally get a better lie as a result of their shot. So why then demerit the rule by saying records and achievements made during the use of such rules are any less noteworthy? If you can win a PGA event playing preferred lies than your corresponding score should still count as an official score.
This is more than a horrible take. "True, proper 59"? Get out of here with that. 59 is a 59. You two are an embarrassment to RUclips golf.
Rick shot 88 against Sergio with his help finding his tee shots. It's a 59 and yours was an 88. Take the help.
My best score ever was a 75 on a par 68 with preferred lies. I still call it my best score ever, maybe not my best round but my best score.
Bryson's 58 was shot on a par 70 with lift clean and place. So yes, this counts.
Probably Rick would shoot a round in the 80’s, all day long. 👍
Of course it counts. You can’t break 80 and you want to criticize someone for a 59. Get a life.
As opposed to Rick having 59 through 13 holes lol, just call it a great round.
The jealousy is palpable. Rick still couldn't have broken 75 under the same conditions.
Dude he couldn't even break 85😅
My guess if this was Justin Rose or Rory McIlroy they would be happy to call it a 59.
I kind of agree. I'm fine with the asterisk.
I shot a 59 before on a par 54
Maybe they should refer more about the amount under par for the round. Not as sexy sounding, but more relevant? So Cam Young’s was an 11 under, but Adam Hadwin’s 59 (a few years back) was 13 under.
Hmmm ......
Well, it counts in the same way as his mum saying “you’re my favourite son” when he’s the only son counts as a ‘compliment’.
It’s not false, but doesn’t mean as much as it could.
If you ask the question if it counts, the answer is clearly yes because it contributed to his final Tournament score.
No - this was also a par 70
@@iangraham705 Didn't Guy said in the long Podcast it was a 72?
@@ralphschiefer7576 no idea but if he did then it’s wrong
@@iangraham705 I just checked it, Rick said is a par 70 but I missunderstood him (English is not my natural language) So OK my example doesn't count. I'll deleete it!
If the course record doesn’t count with preferred lies then they have a point. Bit petty though to be fair.