1- Take back the 2017 World Series 2- Take back the rings 3- Take back Altuve's MVP. 4- Fine the Astros $500 million bc winning a WS is a Billion dollar payday for the franchise. 5- Ban all players, coaches, GM and owner for life. 6- No postseason for at least 2 years. 7- No draft picks for at least 2 years. 8- The Astros must play the next 2 seasons with players from their farm club. 9- Astros do not hold an All-Star game for next 15 seasons. This is not hyperbole.
Research the long history of Dodgers cheating Jay Howell Rick Honeycutt steroids and much much more Yankees Red Sox have similar history including Clemens pitching In playoffs and WS games A rod was cheater too Astros players should be punished but lets not get carried away Son Don't forget the juice boys on the Cardinals championship teams
Also in my opinion if no one from this is banned why is Pete rose still banned. I was pretty indifferent of Pete rose but this to me show he shouldn't be banned
As a Brit it was interesting to hear about the Manchester City situation. It is baffling how the Astros are being allowed to get away with this. Even the English Football Association would not allow this type of carry on. I cannot understand why the Astros are allowed to continue without penalisation this year, can you imagine if they went on to win the world series, what this would do to the sports credibility. Very unusual, all I can imagine is there is more that is known that will come out.
@Tim Snortin' no he's not a billionaire or nothing but if you're the face of the YES network for many years... there's no way he still has a mortgage lolol i'm pretty sure he gets paid three four million dollars a year
Chapman pitching to Altuve: Chapman: You cheated Altuve: Diplomatic Immunity Narrator: Chapman then beans Altuve in the head with the baseball. Chapamn: Just been revoked.
Can we give the pitcher the buzzer remote and strap the buzzer to the catcher (or vice versa) and they can relay the pitch without finger signals. Relaying the info another way would be ideal.
Every team should forfeit against the Astros, keeping them from ever playing a game in 2020.. they’d be bounced in the first round of the playoffs because they’ve not played all year
And give them the record of being MLBs first ever undefeated regular season??!!.....dont watch baseball, its a thinking mans game and u dont meet the qualifications.
Take it away!!! And suspend every player and personnel that lied on camera about cheating for one year for each time they lie about cheating. So if they went on TV or interviewed and lied 5 times, gone for 5 years.. Teach this over paid babies a lesson and clean up the game. How embarrassing is it to cheat when your a dam professional.
what bothers me in this scandal is the Astros walk around like they did nothing wrong. they have this cocky pompous arrogance about them it makes me sick. they really do not care just saying a script apology.
Stephen A Smith is correct. Does anybody remember what the cops in New York did when the mayor would address them. They hated that guy and still do. The whole group turned their back for a minute while he spoke. That’s what Stephen A said teams should do at the start of the game. Every game every team for the whole season. If they don’t take the championship away from them. And their rings and their bonus money.
Manfred needs to be at every Astros game this season...and either a) he takes a hit by pitch or b) a player on the Astros gets hit at some time during the game OR he strips the WS title for 2017...and a new investigation gets opened for 2018 and 19...That would be justice
I’m taking my children Sunday to the Yankee verse rays spring training in Port Charlotte and it’s hard to explain to my children what’s going on And why they get to be champions and explain to my kids why it’s wrong
What are we supposed to tell our children yeah they cheated, but didn’t get in trouble because there’s a strong union. My nine-year-old doesn’t understand. they’re giving the impression that it’s OK to cheat, there’s still the champion still get to where the ring, hang the banner, spend the money, it’s a black eye for baseball as a black eye for fans it’s a black eye for our children
The Astros owner didn't share the "memo" which is why they couldn't punish the players. The blame goes to the Astros owner. Force Astros owner "out" unless, he agrees to "release all cheaters" in his club. Then have the Players Union states they would go on strike if any owner signs a cheater. That way you punish the cheaters even though they keep 100% of the contract. This way the only one who loses is the one who won the most by the cheating. This out come would be superior to having the trophy removed and the cheaters still in the league.
I love watching these clips everyday to see the absolute hate/rancor of the Yankee Nation when it comes to the cheating Astros and I'm a Nationals fan. Keep those cheating bastards in your sights and make sure you beat them this year or its only going to get infinitely worse.
If the Astros did more than the Red Sox then they should get punished more severely. Not sure how that's an argument or a reason to not punish the Astros harshly. If someone commits a petty crime he shouldn't get the same prison sentence as someone that killed a person.
in 2019 WAS knew HOU was cheating them so they changed their signs. i want to know how they noticed it besides the obvious trash can banging. there has to be more then the obvious bc they defended themselves well.
I was reading somewhere that other teams that had been cheated by Houston the couple years before told Washington all about the cheaters. Washington went into that World Series knowing exactly what to expect from that team and beat that ass. Astros aren’t that good when they don’t know what’s coming
@@TheJester39 still doesn't explain how WAS knew they were cheating buzzers are one thing but stealing signs by trash can banging is something else. they used technology to influence the outcome of games.
William Hill sportsbook set an over/under of 83.5 for Houston hit-by-pitches in 2020, a number that would rank as one of the 10 highest in the previous five seasons. (www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/over-under-on-astros-batters-getting-hit-by-pitches-in-2020-season-set-at-83-5-by-william-hill/) I'd bet over it.
Kelly Conroy couldn’t agree more. No matter how much people complain the trophy won’t get taken away and the players aren’t getting suspended. It happened it sucks time to move on
@@Mr.J0303 you guys are probably astros fans. We will continue to push the issue until every last player on that teams integrity is completely washed away. And until the Astros are the laughing stock of baseball.
ItMightGetMessy I am an Astros fan. You don’t think every player on that 2017 team is already tarnished they are. My memory of that moment they won is ruined by this. Your never gonna get what you want they won’t be suspend and their title is not getting taken no matter how much you cry about it
If MLB dont take the championship away from the Astros, they should make it a rule that the Astros can only ever hang the 2017 flag upside down - hanging in shame! #UpsideDownFlag #HangingInShame
What would be the fallout here if it wasn't the huge media markets of NY and LA playing the victims? This episode is maybe 1/10th of the magnitude if Cleveland and Kansas City were the ones feeling cheated.
Wrong. All across the board if you cheated and got caught it doesn't matter whether big or small markets are involved. You defiled the game or sport itself.
Cheating is part of Baseball history You clowns should tell the whole story. The Dodgers have long history of cheating However the Astros players should be punished
Really bro? You're going to throw these comments around without any kind of examples? How is anyone supposed to take you seriously? And wheres the proof? Because I'm seeing PLENTY of evidence out of Houston...
Just curious why everyone believes this form of sign stealing to be so egregious? Sign stealing is engrained in baseball, it is an accepted part of the game. Now the MLB comes along and puts video replay in dugouts and all of a sudden an uncrossable line has been crossed? The sanctimony here is unbelievable. MLB needs to accept that they fucked up by opening pandoras box with this video replay shit. The Astros took advantage and should be punished on par with the yankees and Red Sox who in 2017 with the Apple Watches. The MLB needs to remove video replay technology from clubhouses and implement a hard and fast rule for players actions in the future. However, they absolutely should not retroactively implement punishments for rules that did not exists when this form of sign stealing was going on.
13:49 The moment I quit watching a great conversation, killed the momentum DEAD 💀
Heaven forbid a sports talk program talks about another sport
1- Take back the 2017 World Series
2- Take back the rings
3- Take back Altuve's MVP.
4- Fine the Astros $500 million bc winning a WS is a Billion dollar payday for the franchise.
5- Ban all players, coaches, GM and owner for life.
6- No postseason for at least 2 years.
7- No draft picks for at least 2 years.
8- The Astros must play the next 2 seasons with players from their farm club.
9- Astros do not hold an All-Star game for next 15 seasons.
This is not hyperbole.
Well said. But I think they should also be forced to change the name of the team from the astros to "The Cheaters" for at least 1 season.
What about just forcing them to play in the Astrodome?
ItMightGetMessy lol how about the Houston asterisks
Research the long history of Dodgers cheating Jay Howell
Rick Honeycutt steroids and much much more
Yankees Red Sox have similar history including Clemens pitching
In playoffs and WS games
A rod was cheater too
Astros players should be punished but lets not get carried away Son
Don't forget the juice boys on the Cardinals championship teams
@@jeffsteeldude9381 did u just compare a steroid user to the whole team knowing what pitch is coming. Lol.
If what the Asterisks did doesn't warrant taking the World Series title away, what does?
Muppet Rathbun I literally have no idea. It's ridiculous
Also in my opinion if no one from this is banned why is Pete rose still banned. I was pretty indifferent of Pete rose but this to me show he shouldn't be banned
Muppet Rathbun Your argument could be applied to Donald Trump as well as the Asterisks.
I don’t know the answer to that. Good question for commission Manfred
mint _ I think this means Pete Rose and the Astros should be banned. They’re both garbage and bad for the game.
Not even a Yankee fan but they keeping it a 💯
As a Brit it was interesting to hear about the Manchester City situation. It is baffling how the Astros are being allowed to get away with this. Even the English Football Association would not allow this type of carry on. I cannot understand why the Astros are allowed to continue without penalisation this year, can you imagine if they went on to win the world series, what this would do to the sports credibility. Very unusual, all I can imagine is there is more that is known that will come out.
"Joe Buck the IX is doing the World Series" had me cracking up hahahaha
Don’t get me started with Joe Buck...lol
no way kay still has a mortgage
@Tim Snortin' no he's not a billionaire or nothing but if you're the face of the YES network for many years... there's no way he still has a mortgage lolol i'm pretty sure he gets paid three four million dollars a year
He gets over 2 million a year from the Yankees and yes
Chapman pitching to Altuve:
Chapman: You cheated
Altuve: Diplomatic Immunity
Narrator: Chapman then beans Altuve in the head with the baseball.
Chapamn: Just been revoked.
Forever 21 + 23 and Me = Forever 23
Can we give the pitcher the buzzer remote and strap the buzzer to the catcher (or vice versa) and they can relay the pitch without finger signals. Relaying the info another way would be ideal.
Wow good for Trey Wingo for bold honesty calling out Astro players especially Correia.
What’s the holdup with Boston?
Remove the 2017 championship from the records, the trophy and rings from the players and then, and only then will this be resolved.
why don’t they just get rid of Peter and bring Wingo on
best idea ive ever heard
Peter should not be on this show he not even good
the NHL94 sound effects are fantastic
Every team should forfeit against the Astros, keeping them from ever playing a game in 2020.. they’d be bounced in the first round of the playoffs because they’ve not played all year
Matthew Greene Damn you a genius bro!😂
And give them the record of being MLBs first ever undefeated regular season??!!.....dont watch baseball, its a thinking mans game and u dont meet the qualifications.
This is gonna be a wild 30 for 30!
U ain't never lied 😂
Take it away!!! And suspend every player and personnel that lied on camera about cheating for one year for each time they lie about cheating. So if they went on TV or interviewed and lied 5 times, gone for 5 years.. Teach this over paid babies a lesson and clean up the game. How embarrassing is it to cheat when your a dam professional.
Love you Wingo but I’m glad Pete checked you on Fury being an artist. He isn’t an big power puncher. He’s one of the best defensive HW boxers ever
Yeah it was like SAS calling Haskins a runner
to me there was no champion in 17 anybody asks me who won in 17 i'm saying nobody.
what bothers me in this scandal is the Astros walk around like they did nothing wrong. they have this cocky pompous arrogance about them it makes me sick. they really do not care just saying a script apology.
Dawg Treydavion Wingo III is funny asf LMAO
Stephen A Smith is correct. Does anybody remember what the cops in New York did when the mayor would address them. They hated that guy and still do. The whole group turned their back for a minute while he spoke. That’s what Stephen A said teams should do at the start of the game. Every game every team for the whole season. If they don’t take the championship away from them. And their rings and their bonus money.
Manfred needs to be at every Astros game this season...and either a) he takes a hit by pitch or b) a player on the Astros gets hit at some time during the game OR he strips the WS title for 2017...and a new investigation gets opened for 2018 and 19...That would be justice
I’m not sure if baseball as we know it will exist in the 22nd century.
I’m taking my children Sunday to the Yankee verse rays spring training in Port Charlotte and it’s hard to explain to my children what’s going on And why they get to be champions and explain to my kids why it’s wrong
What are we supposed to tell our children yeah they cheated, but didn’t get in trouble because there’s a strong union. My nine-year-old doesn’t understand. they’re giving the impression that it’s OK to cheat, there’s still the champion still get to where the ring, hang the banner, spend the money, it’s a black eye for baseball as a black eye for fans it’s a black eye for our children
Every DP ball for Altuve and Corra will be must watch tv.. I expect them to be flipped on a weekly basis.
The Astros owner didn't share the "memo" which is why they couldn't punish the players. The blame goes to the Astros owner. Force Astros owner "out" unless, he agrees to "release all cheaters" in his club. Then have the Players Union states they would go on strike if any owner signs a cheater. That way you punish the cheaters even though they keep 100% of the contract. This way the only one who loses is the one who won the most by the cheating. This out come would be superior to having the trophy removed and the cheaters still in the league.
scandal is that Dons’ name isn’t on the shows title
Boycott baseball until world series is taken away
I love watching these clips everyday to see the absolute hate/rancor of the Yankee Nation when it comes to the cheating Astros and I'm a Nationals fan. Keep those cheating bastards in your sights and make sure you beat them this year or its only going to get infinitely worse.
What type of payback would Nolan Ryan deal out if he was still pitching and was cheated against?
If the Astros did more than the Red Sox then they should get punished more severely. Not sure how that's an argument or a reason to not punish the Astros harshly. If someone commits a petty crime he shouldn't get the same prison sentence as someone that killed a person.
if your the Commissioner, do your job...stop being a coward...either vacate it or asterisk it
“So that’s where I know him from”
at 3.00 in they are still talking about frequent flyers crap, so dont waste your time with this
in 2019 WAS knew HOU was cheating them so they changed their signs. i want to know how they noticed it besides the obvious trash can banging. there has to be more then the obvious bc they defended themselves well.
I was reading somewhere that other teams that had been cheated by Houston the couple years before told Washington all about the cheaters. Washington went into that World Series knowing exactly what to expect from that team and beat that ass. Astros aren’t that good when they don’t know what’s coming
@@danielwalker7479 i agree with your opinion.
Kurt Suzuki explained that they had a different sign for every hitter in every game.
@@TheJester39 still doesn't explain how WAS knew they were cheating buzzers are one thing but stealing signs by trash can banging is something else. they used technology to influence the outcome of games.
Asssstros gotta figure out sign stealing for when the BEAM BALL is coming...because is coming!!!
Get your popcorn ready!
What's a "beam ball"?
@@kropking you're right!! what is a beam ball? 😅
if they take away the title what happens to all BETS made on the WS ?
Would’ve already paid out already, yeah? I think you’d be in the same place as you currently are. You either won money or lost already.
Rig yeh I get that but I’m saying people who lost would they want there money ? Would they file multiple lawsuits ? How would that look ?
Also I’m a dodger fan so I’m all for taken it away but I’m seeing manfreds move to also not take this on as well potentially
20:19 😂
William Hill sportsbook set an over/under of 83.5 for Houston hit-by-pitches in 2020, a number that would rank as one of the 10 highest in the previous five seasons.
(www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/over-under-on-astros-batters-getting-hit-by-pitches-in-2020-season-set-at-83-5-by-william-hill/)
I'd bet over it.
Forward to 4:00 minutes
www.mlb.com/video/examining-signs-tipping-pitches
Does anyone care if the players go on strike?
those headphones look too small on Kay’s giant head
why don’t they lose Peter and bring Wingo
I always wonder why I didnt like Wingo lol
Astros 17 WS***
Beating a dead horse . By the time the season starts this will be talked to death.
Kelly Conroy couldn’t agree more. No matter how much people complain the trophy won’t get taken away and the players aren’t getting suspended. It happened it sucks time to move on
@@Mr.J0303 you guys are probably astros fans. We will continue to push the issue until every last player on that teams integrity is completely washed away. And until the Astros are the laughing stock of baseball.
ItMightGetMessy I am an Astros fan. You don’t think every player on that 2017 team is already tarnished they are. My memory of that moment they won is ruined by this. Your never gonna get what you want they won’t be suspend and their title is not getting taken no matter how much you cry about it
@@Mr.J0303 noone is crying. But we will never let houston forget how pathetic they are and their fans aswell.
ItMightGetMessy So if this was your team you wouldn’t defend them and you would move on?
If MLB dont take the championship away from the Astros, they should make it a rule that the Astros can only ever hang the 2017 flag upside down - hanging in shame! #UpsideDownFlag #HangingInShame
The first 3 minutes is a complete waste of time
Stop talking about $$$$$. Shut up and cover SPORTS. Nobody cares about your holiday. I am out, BORING!
#HawaiianAirlines
horrible,is this what they consider entertaining?
Who cares about boxing
What would be the fallout here if it wasn't the huge media markets of NY and LA playing the victims? This episode is maybe 1/10th of the magnitude if Cleveland and Kansas City were the ones feeling cheated.
Wrong. All across the board if you cheated and got caught it doesn't matter whether big or small markets are involved. You defiled the game or sport itself.
Another contrarian! Go find Kanye West and smoke a cigar.
Cheating is part of Baseball history
You clowns should tell the whole story. The Dodgers have long history of cheating
However the Astros players should be punished
I keep seeing people say this. What cheating exactly?
@@raylauro Google Dodgers
baseball cheating
Really bro? You're going to throw these comments around without any kind of examples? How is anyone supposed to take you seriously? And wheres the proof? Because I'm seeing PLENTY of evidence out of Houston...
@@raylauroask your wife she knows all about cheating. bro
@@raylauro the Dodgers lost two ws in a row bro. All they had to do is win game 7 At home but they fell short they lost ...get over it
Just curious why everyone believes this form of sign stealing to be so egregious? Sign stealing is engrained in baseball, it is an accepted part of the game. Now the MLB comes along and puts video replay in dugouts and all of a sudden an uncrossable line has been crossed? The sanctimony here is unbelievable. MLB needs to accept that they fucked up by opening pandoras box with this video replay shit. The Astros took advantage and should be punished on par with the yankees and Red Sox who in 2017 with the Apple Watches. The MLB needs to remove video replay technology from clubhouses and implement a hard and fast rule for players actions in the future. However, they absolutely should not retroactively implement punishments for rules that did not exists when this form of sign stealing was going on.
there is a rule regarding electronic sign stealing