Gutted! Relegated to League One - Birmingham City v Norwich City (H) Post Match Reflection #59
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- After what can only be described as a turbulent 2023/24 season Birmingham City have been relegated from The EFL Championship to League One despite winning their final match of the season against Norwich City at at sold out St.Andrew's@KnightheadPark. The atmosphere was electric and the players got the win that was needed however Plymouth, Sheffield Wednesday & Blackburn all won their games which meant that Birmingham finished the season in the final relegation place on 50 points and drop to League One.
In this podcast we discuss some of the key moments in the game and also some of the key moments throughout the season that have contributed to our relegation.
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Think >> Clean House .. Now the clean out of players . Massive wage bill reduction. which will pay for all the developments in the Ground. < VERY MUCH NEEDED.
Think >> Future .... Watch a brand new team built with the U23s and MAJOR Investment with players that are young and hungry for success . >> This will carry on when promoted back to the Championship with even more investment on players and more added U23s to the Squad.
Short pain for MAJOR GAIN!! >> STAY STRONG !!
KRO !!
Do you trust your owners to get it right ?
@@David-martin1992 definitely, these owners are excellent and we fully trust that they will back us and help us get back up. KRO
Been a blues fan for 50 years. As soon as it gets close to next season the passion and expectations return and watching blues will be just as addictive, especially if we start winning a lot of games. It's blues we support and that doesn't die. Looking forward to watching a new blues team and hopefully better times. Blues til death, Andy H
Thanks for commenting :)
My dad said the same about the 94 season. We go again, we will have our season tickets and go to most away games. We might actually win a few 😂
We will come back stronger I am sure.
Very best, KRO!
Sheffield Wednesday fan here in peace , shame to see another huge club drop into league 1 it’s a cruel game especially as you beat Norwich on the last day and it still wasn’t enough ! .. league 1 is miserable guys I won’t lie , and it’s not as easy to get promoted as you may think , I know we have been there for 2 seasons hope you bounce straight back , good luck for next season 🦉
Thanks for commenting mate and in a respectful way, we really appreciate it :)
Well done to Wednesday, in fact since the christmas break what you have achieved as a club is nothing short of outstanding and you deserve to survive.
I know you have crap owners so I hope this element gets better soon but yes, congratulations and hopefully we can bounce back quickly but it's a very physical league so our recruitment needs to be spot on.
Very best, KRO!
I hope you finish Champions, it's not a bad league to be honest
@@Anthony-Elliott thank you for your comment. We will be having a big turn around in players in the summer and hopefully we can get the right type of characters in which is something we lacked this season. All the best for the future. KRO
Better times ahead.
Big club is Birmingham.
Good luck.
COYL 🦁
Respectful post Kenny, well-done
Thanks for always engaging and commenting in a respectful way Kenny.
Our 2 great clubs will be back playing again I'm sure!
All the best next season :)
my first season as a bluenose at 14 ,was in the old third division, barry frys champions and wembley 55,000 fans,amazing season,lets do it again next year,lets do an ipswich ,KRO.
Thanks for commenting Ant,
My dad remembers these times and looks / reflects on them fondly as well so hopefully we can have a really successful season and bounce straight back up and do an Ipswich, that would be amazing.
Even if we spent a 2 seasons down there but it means we are getting the foundations, recruitment and a solid base as a club I would take that. We have had such turmoil for 12 years now just getting that stability back would be a huge bonus for me.
Happy and good times are on the horizon soon for this club.
Very best, KRO!
Mine too mate kids for a quid and Barry fry with a squad the size of a small army. Great beginnings 😊
@@brummie43 KRO
Your videos have become almost a form of therapy this season, a true comfort blanket in what has been a miserable experience. I went for my usual run this morning and all I could think about were the missed points too, all those moments that could have gone the other way and kept us up. Thanks to the both of you for all the great videos, they've been the best part of this season's journey and I look forward to them next season as we start our next chapter. Blues don't do merry-go-rounds, only rollercoasters and I think that's one of the reasons we love them so much. All the best and enjoy the summer, we go again in August!
"Blues don't do merry-go-rounds, only rollercoasters" 😂
possibly my favourite quote of the day yet and you are totally right.
Would we have it any other way? I love this club and the fans and everything about it. Even the chaos is part of the journey as a Blues fan. We are used to it by now.
We will still be there in August getting behind the boys and I can't wait to hopefully see a really solid team after a brilliant summer recruitment and stability with a manager and regular starting 11. We are craving some sort of stability and normalcy.
We will still be posting over the summer albeit limited with no game action but we hope you enjoy your summer and we will be back in full force come September.
Very best, KRO!
Absolutely gutted! The fans have always deserved better. From the Trevor Francis days to now unfortunately we have had more lows than highs. League one we will be everyone's cup final. Just hoping we can get some player's that are up for the fight to get out of the division because this season we had a lot of hiding on the pitch. Players away from home could hide at home the fans don't let them. We need players coming in that will show up week in week out wherever we play. I agree we need characters who are willing to play for the whole game. KRO
Thanks for commenting, we always appreciate it.
Definitely agree with everything, we do deserve better after 12 years of this rubbish! I really hope the recruitment looks at personality, not just statistics, we need people who are nasty, willing to fight and graft for the full game, we are way too nice and passive!
Very best, KRO!
I will be following you on RUclips during the next season. I have subscribed and look forward to your videos. You are just 2 enthusiastic football fans who love your club. I wish you well for next season and hope to see you back in the Championship very soon. Good luck!
Thanks Stephen, really appreciated.
We are truly gutted but we do love this club and fans so we will keep going. Our season ticket will be renewed, our away games are a big priority and we will continue to produce content.
Thanks so much for you kind words, KRO!
Argyle fan here. just make sure you stuff Exeter for us a couple times while you are there! You will be back soon, I predict a slow start for you, then by October you will get a grip of league one and bounce straight back up!
Thanks for commenting and with such respect, it's really appreciated :)
I agree it will be an adjustment for us in League 1 with the physicality of the league. Hopefully, we can bounce back up with the financial backing and hopefully reset this summer.
Fair play for staying up and good luck next season :)
As an Argyle fan, as an Argyle fan you must realise that it is very rare indeed for any club to bounce back from L1, how long did we spend there!
@@humptydumpty9177 thank you for your comment. We know it won’t be easy but we have great owners who will back us so hopefully we will come back quickly. KRO
All the best blues from this Cov fan. Use this as an opportunity to rebuild the team and tear league 1 apart. If you do that, you'll be back quickly, and more competitive too. Hope to see you at the CBS soon.
Thanks mate!
Hopefully we will back soon. We haven't had much luck at the CBS in recent years but always an away day I enjoy and probably the Guiness is the best from an away day.
Very best, KRO!
West Midlands forever!
@@xennialnick all the best for next season. With a few additions I can see Cov challenging again. KRO
I'm not nearly as disheartened as I thought id be...its obviously not ideal but we are where we are. It was a sunny day in a packed StAns with our fellow bluenoses and the fan who required medical care was thankfully okay...its the fans that make the club and we'll all still be there next year...looking forward to hopfully more joys than sorrows in the future. KRO bluenoses.
Thanks Sam! nice comment...
I agree it's the fans that make up football clubs! This is why I was hoping we stayed up, we have already had 12 years of torture as a fanbase but yeah, we are where we are.
Let's all enjoy the summer and come back all guns blazing ready to take on league 1.
Thanks again, KRO!
👍 A very balanced and sensible response from you both.
You’re doing a great job, well done to you.
I decided yesterday I’m going to get a season ticket for the first time in 20 years ! “Defiance our plan” as the song says. Or Small Heath Defiance!
KRO and enjoy your summer.
Thank you for your comment Tommy which is greatly appreciated. I think once the dust has settled the Blues fans will get right behind the club as we go into the summer and next season. It’s great that you will be getting a season ticket and I’ve spoken to other fans who have said the same. We will come back bigger and stronger than ever! KRO
Not a fan, but I work with a group of brummies and damn I’ve never seen a more loyal fanbase that will back a club to the hilt. Hate to see y’all go down, but you’ll be back in the big time sooner than later 🤙🏻 keep creating solid content
Thanks Micah, always appreciate the comments :)
We are certainly a loyal fanbase who wear there heart on their sleeves and we will bounce back and be stronger then ever I have no doubt. It might take a while to re-build with the pure volume of turnover we will experience this summer however I think good times are ahead for this football club.
Thanks again, KRO!
Nice vlog. As a RAMS supporter I can assure you that Div 1 is a much improved division. We were lucky to get out in only 2 seasons. We thought it would be a piece of cake, and so did Sunderland, Portsmouth, and Ipswich, so don’t be fooled into thinking it’s going to be easy. Poor refereeing, some ground surfaces are poor, some teams are break-your-legs brutal, and some are very limited as to how many visiting supporters their club can offer you. Mix all that in with some very good teams with their talent and I think you will be quite surprised as to how difficult the challenge is going to be. Finding quality players that are prepared, and happy, to play in Division 1 is also a challenge. Anyway, good luck, and I for one will be looking with interest to see how well you can adapt to playing in Division 1.
Thanks for the kind words and commenting mate, really appreciated.
I totally get that and thanks for the heads up. When you look at yourself, Sunderland, Portsmouth etc. It does prove that this is a difficult division. It is also a different style of football. A lot more long balls, a lot more physical and Blues this year have really struggled with that element to the game. We need some serious leaders, battlers and people willing for get stuck in for 90 minutes.
I guess we can be optimistic, we will have a good stadium, fan base, transfer budget and hopefully recruitment over the summer. Absolutely not saying we will walk anything or even have an easy time. It is going to be a challenge and adaptation however reasons to be optimistic :)
Good luck next season! KRO!
Another excellent thoughtful contribution. Your vlog and that of Davo’s give a great insight into BCFC. Top club and support base. In peace, a PAFC fan.
Thanks Barrie and congratulation's to Plymouth on staying up.
I did watch you guys a few times this season and I was impressed with the battle and passion you often showed. Something hugely missing from our season and the players on the pitch this year.
Good luck next season and hopefully we can play each other again soon. Thank you for the kind words :)
Very best, KRO!
Its not the end its the beginning of a new chapter as our club casts off its past ownership/financial issues and constant relegation battles that have divided the fans over the years as the club truly is a blank canvas now and it all starts with us the fans its a Blues revolution.. KRO...UTB
Love this Ricky! Couldn't agree or add anymore
COME ON YOU BLUES, KRO!
I am sad but not surprised except for the Leicester result. Fair play to John Eustace. He was treated badly by our owners. Karma. It seems to me that when anything positive happens to us like our new solvent owners or winning the league cup back in 2011 there is a relegation but I am still hurting like many of
us. We played well yesterday but our survival was out of our hands. At least we now have financial security and maybe we can folllow Ipswich's success. Thank you for posting Gary and Matt. KRO
Thanks Lisa, really appreciated.
I honestly thought if we won yesterday that we would stay up, I can't believe all the teams above us won, I really thought a win would save us. Too little, too late in a really tragic and forgettable season.
We are all hurting at the moment but we will come back stronger and bring on League 1!
I hope you enjoy your summer and enjoy the few months respite before we go again. Very best, KRO! :)
...sacking Eustace was the starting point of the fall...he had got the team to 6th...what were the owners thinking of...??
@@ictfc1897 the way in which he was sacked was really poor and most Blues fans had issues with that however when he was sacked Blues were in a false position and the table was so tight. They may have been sixth but there was only a four point gap down to 13th. Also, many Blues fans were not happy with Eustace tactics and there were murmurings of discontent. The main things that Blues fans were not happy with was the way he was sacked and also the person who they replaced him with. KRO
The Rotherham games man, feels like they relegated us, conceded 90 goals all season and kept two clean sheets against us
The Rotherham home game this season was one of the best games of football I have ever seen in my life. It really was awful.
We didn't step up enough this year in big games!
We go again next season, KRO!
I’m another Sheffield Wednesday fan, but I’m gutted for you that you’ve been relegated. I studied at uni in Brum so have a soft spot for you guys and I think you’re a great club with great fans. I sincerely hope you bounce straight back.
Also, your pod cast is fantastic: so balanced and intelligent. Keep up the good works guys, and looking forward to seeing you back in the championship.
Thanks very much for commenting and engaging with the channel we really appreciate it.
Well done to Wednesday for staying up as well. What you have achieved since the Christmas break considering where you were prior is nothing short of outstanding.
Thank you for the kind words and good luck next season, KRO! :)
My first ever game was when I was 13 in 1975, it was the FA cup Semi final replay at Maine road V Fulham (Gary may remember it?) we lost to a freak goal that still haunts me to this day 🥲 but I was hooked on BCFC. Fast forward 36 years and I'm watching the league cup final at home when Obefemi doesn't miss the open goal and I'm on my knees saying "this NEVER happens to us". Like you said Matt "Joys and Sorrows" sums up our club (and probably every football club to be honest) which why we keep coming back week in week out. Keep up the good work KRO
Thank you for your comment Marvin which is appreciated m. I remember the 1975 semi final very well. I was only a kid but I remember the feeling of devastation!
I’m sure under these new owners we will come back bigger and stronger than ever. KRO
can't believe it lads . like I said to you both yesterday if we won the game we would stop up fans as always was unbelievable. even when we scored it just felt like it was not going to go our way . that Cardiff was a massive opportunity missed great job as always lads we will be back kro
Thanks for commenting :)
There were so many opportunities this season, I have been reflecting on the Plymouth away game, hull hand ball etc. The mind races when relegation happens.
But overall across 46 games we just couldn't get over the line. A real season to forget sadly. We go again next season and hopefully come back bigger and stronger.
Very best, KRO!
I wasn't too down yesterday as i said after the Cardiff game we were gone so i've had a few weeks to come to terms with it.
@@dazo69 thank you for your comment. Yes the writing has been on the wall for a while but it’s still a bitter pill to swallow. We will kick out wounds for a while and then come back stronger. KRO
Been great listening to your pod casts this season.you do a Great job really enjoy the way you bounce off each other.well its time to look forward now were down and its done.im still full of optimism for the seasons to come.with these owners we will get there.they will learn and improve this club beyond recognition im sure.our day in the sun is coming.KRO
Thank you very much for your comment and we are pleased to you enjoy our podcasts.
Yes, what’s done is done and it’s now time for us to start to move forward. Hopefully we can make some good signing of the right types of players and get us back up at the first time of asking. KRO
As an Albion fan for over 60 years I have always had a soft spot for Blues (unless we are playing you of course) due to the fact that my grandfather was a Blues fan and my brother in law and sister follow the Blues. Sorry to see you guys drop. I just wish it was the Vile.
Thank you for your comments which are greatly appreciated. Have to admit we are hurting right now however I’m sure we will come back stronger. KRO
A fan of over 60 years and you wish it was " the vile " . Get a grip mate, even though I'm villa I actually didn't want to see blues go down and I think it will be interesting if blues get going hopefully we can both be competing against each other in the top flight, u baggie boys need to focus on your actual rivals, wolves!
Our fans were fantastic afterwards. You would swear we stayed up. Good to meet you two before hand
Thank you for your message and thank you for taking the time to say hello before the match, it was nice meeting you.
Top class supporters at our club and I think that even through the disappointment we know there is room for optimism. KRO
SWFC fan here. Commiserations to you guys but someone had to go. I can't believe we stayed up given where we were, our turnaround has been unreal. The season in general has been bonkers at both ends of the table. We've been there in League 1 and it's not nice, a hard league to get out of but there's some nice grounds to visit at least. I'm sure you'll be back. UTO and KRO! 🦉
Thank you very much for your comment. Danny Rohl and your boys deserve a lot of credit for turning your season around so fair play and good luck for next season.
We have been tinkering with relegation for years and our luck finally ran out. The good news is that we have fantastic owners who I’m sure will support the club to get us to where they want us to be. Best wishes and very kind regards.
Sunjic is perfectly suited to league 1. If we can get him to drop his salary demands I'd keep him. I'd love to hear your thoughts on who we should retain. I'd actually keep Ruddy and Juke for another year. No doubt the likes of Laird, Paik, Miyoshi and Bielik will be off.
Thanks for commenting :)
It's a really good question and we have done videos in the past about what players we could keep however that was assuming we would stay up.
Now we have officially been relegated I guess this changes again, we didn't pick many players with the assumption of safety so god knows who would we keep now, even less 😂
In short, being 100% honest I would keep: Sunjic (Lowering his salary) Bielek, Buchanan and Ruddy if he wanted another year. Laird maybe as an honourable mention but this is a chance to clear the slate and start fresh for me. We have a bit of money, let's rebuild.
Hi gents. Another great video. 25 years of supporting our Blues here, so I too never remembered us back in League one. Really hoping that we find players of the right character and stature to get out of our new league at the first time of asking. Would love to see us playing with two strikers and hopefully blooding some of our youth next season perhaps.
Hopefully you'll keep the videos coming out of season with the news of our comings and goingings.
KRO lads. Here's to becoming bigger and better.🤞😉👊💥
Thanks for commenting really appreciated.
This is Matt, Don't worry my dad re-assured me off the 1994 season and how some of those are his favourite memories of being a blues fan!
I would also love to see us playing 2 up front. What is wrong with the good old 4-4-2? I think we were crying out for this season with more support for Stanno. Oh well, it wasn't meant to be!
As you say, here is too bigger and better times as blues fans. We love this clubs and fans and we won't stop producing content. We could be in the conference leagues and we will still be season ticket holders making podcast videos :)
Very best, KRO!
Hi Colin and Matt like you feeling bad about the result yesterday , there will always be shud of, would of, could of, but now we need get a team that going to breeze through Div 1 which will be a pre set for the play off , and lets move onto the next challenge ,
Thanks for commenting, always appreciated :)
Yeah, it's easy to reflect on what could or should have been. However, it's official, we will be playing League 1 football next season.
As you rightly say, let's now get prepared for the physicality of League 1. It's a very difficult league but hopefully, with a good summer of recruitment, we will be surely favourites to bounce straight back up.
Very best, KRO!
Villa fan here, banter aside, if the owners step up and do what they say then there are exciting times ahead. Get the manager and team right then next season you will hopefully win loads of games and get some momentum, get the fans back and you might do an Ipswich.
This is the second respectful comment from a Villa fan in short succession. I have been batting the hate away all day! 😂
Thank you, appreciate the comment and keeping it clean. We are hoping for a good reset this summer and a huge clear-out. We have had such horrible ownership and effectively 12 years of misery now, so a good reset is needed and hopefully next season is that reset. If we come back stronger I will take it.
Thanks again.
Sad for you guys i follow Cheltenham town and we had the same last week it would have been great to play the blues but we are now in league two playing Walsall and maybe Solihull moors
Thanks for commenting, we always appreciate it when other fans engage :)
Good luck next season and we hope you bounce back quickly. I won't lie, I hope our paths don't meet the following season because it means we have both bounced back immediately :)
Very best, KRO!
@@BCFCRoyalBlue your problem was Wayne Rooney. ours was wade Elliott
I think the new owners tried to run with the club before they could walk, that’s all in the past now, lets hope now we compete at the top end of league one next season, give us all some think to shout about, KRO.
You and your dad are doing a great job, KRO.
Thanks, Peter! Really appreciated.
Wagner said in the open house didn't he, his biggest regret is not allowing "positive momentum" or something similar. As you say, let's go down there and compete at the top, have a great summer recruitment but I really want to see the fans coming together next season.
It feels it has been a bit fragmented over these past few years, especially this year with all the changes so it would be so nice to see us all come together and take League 1 by storm.
Very best, KRO!
I thought a result elsewhere was possible to save us, but fair dues, they all did what was needed and we ended up being the ones to drop.
I've read on a couple of sites about this being the lowest point they've known being a Blues fan. Let me tell you, those of us ones being a little longer in the tooth remember when we had the Kumar's as owners. I won't go into those wonderful times on here, but look it up. An eye-opener is an understatement. .
Thanks for commenting, really appreciated.
It was representative of a pattern we didn't follow in time. Teams around us had been fighting and scrapping for a long time. We just didn't show enough passion and desire in certain matches. I must admit same as you, I was surprised the results around us didn't go away. Not a single one but we got relegated over 46 games. It's been a really forgettable season.
We will come back better and stronger and we have a bright future ahead :)
Very best, KRO!
7/8 of the bottom clubs winning on the final day, every time we did something to try and get out of this mess something else happened to counter act it from Mobray to getting 3 points somewhere, what a crazy crazy season. Its also funny that weve been relegated that season weve recieved new owners the last 4 times. Almost like it was pre written and was inevitable.
We definitely deserve to go down especially after those last couple of away games. Maybe we can take some of our under 21s and under 18s and give them a chance now as they seem to know how to play football as a team. KRO Everyone
Thanks for the comment mate.
Absolutely agree this has just been a crazy season and one we want to forget as soon as possible. A few people have commented about utilising our U21's and I think it's a really good idea, they have had a really good season and we have some really bright and exciting talent coming through.
Donovan, Chang and Dixon are the 3 which really come to mind.
We go again next season :)
Very best, KRO!
If any blues fan happens to read this…
Let’s not worry. We’re in better hands and I’d rather us go down with Tom Wagner & Co. Rather than stay up with BSHL.
Yes it’s rubbish reading the digs coming from other fans (mainly the vile and derby) but let them have their fun.
In a few years time the joys will be back for us, I’m sure of it.
If you are a true blue nose then we have to stick together and get behind them again come the first game next season.
And even though it sucks right now, it’s all part of the journey. And how great of a story it will be when we’re back in the Prem.
Might not be in the next 3-4 years but eventually we will.
As for these videos! Keep it up lads. Fair and honest conversations every time, great watch!
See you next season blue noses💙
League 1 tour here we come 🎉
KRO UTB FEA!! 💙
Thanks for commenting, really appreciate it :)
Let the other fans have their fun. We have even received a few comments on this video. Best season some teams have had in years and they are commenting on our stuff.
We will come back better, stronger and more united than ever.
League 1 tour indeed! I love an away day so now it is official I am looking forward to seeing some new stadiums.
Very best, KRO!
❤ up the blues 💙 👌 😎 🙌 ♥️ yes 💙 I am 67 ❤up the blues 💙 👌 🎉
@@PaulElstins-gt2qc KRO
60,000 Stadium next year , biggest in the Midlands
@@johngameson9768 the new stadium will probably take at least five years to build and by that point we will be in a much better position as a club. I know a lot of fans find this hard to believe at the moment but our owners are serious and they will achieve their vision for the club without a doubt. KRO
Small physical side… spot on! Formation also! 4-2-3-1 or whatever permutation you want is not 4-4-2 or 4-3-3, tried and trusted formations that has not let us down in the past. 2 or 3 upfront and we wouldn’t of got relegated. We need more muscle and desire in the squad. Look at Wrexham, look at Ipswich. We can be a Premier League team by 2027!! Keep the faith!! KRO!! Will be getting my season ticket as soon as I can. Where do you two sit?
Thanks for commenting, always appreciated :)
I have personally been banging my head against the wall as to why we have been so against a 4-4-2 all season. Of course, we will never know now but we have been SCREAMING for a partner with Stanno. I am so passionate about this point that I feel it would have saved us. Millwall did the same.
It's too late now but I agree I would love to see a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3. Absolutely suffocate teams. A bit like Leicester in the championship this year. Averaging 70%+ possession in games and being clinical.
Very best, KRO!
In my opinion only John Eustace and his coaching team, and a handful of players come out of this season with any credit. Everyone else has played a part in our demise to a greater or lesser extent. I just want to see a big clear out now as I don't want to have to watch the same players going through the motions next season. The position of Graig Gardner should come under the microscope as well. Also, I don't want to have to listen to any more discussions about the type of football that we play, amount of possession, number of passes etc etc All I want to see next season is WINNING football and if we get out of League One by playing long ball stuff like Watford and Wimbledon used to fine by me!
For next season I want to see proven players being signed, particularly up front where we need at least one player who will get us 20 goals. Not people who we think might score goals, but players with proven records in League One.
After all of that we should be clear that it was our utterly pathetic away record that got us relegated. Our record:
Home 36 points - 9th
Away 14 points - 23rd
Why Rooney, Mowbray, Venus and Rowett couldn't get to the bottom of this says a lot. Putting Mark Venus in charge was a complete disaster.
It's funny that when the owners haven't needed to take action they have ie sacking John Eustace for no reason, but when they have clearly needed to be decisive and make changes they have been too slow to react. Steve Spooner is a trusted pair of hands and if he had been in charge while we took our time over a Rooney replacement we might well have stayed up.
At least relegation means that we can have big clear out. I for one can't wait! We've had to put up with second best for far too long, selling our own, home grown players while buying so many players that have been very disappointing.
KRO
Thanks for commenting with such great insights!
I totally agree about proven players. We need to look at leaders, grafters and people who are willing to fight for the club and badge. They also need to be physical, it's a very physical league. I remember watching an interview with Ben Foster who was saying from League One and below it sort of becomes a different game. A lot more physical. This certainly needs addressing.
Our away record has been a disgrace. 3 wins away from home is absolutely mental.
Agree I am looking forward to a big clear out and we go again next season. Ready for the League 1 tour 😂
Very best, KRO!
You’ll bounce back guys. Best wishes
Thank you for your comment Mark which is greatly appreciated. We know it won’t be easy but we certainly hope so. KRO
I think in the next two weeks we need to know as fans where we stand as who will manage Birmingham city in division one.We need to know who’s staying hopefully to get us back up to the championship & new recruitment as a team will take time to gel.
Thank you for your comment. I think we should have some clarity on the manager situation shortly and I hope Tony is well enough to come back to lead us.
The club will also issue a retained list hopefully before the end of May so we will know which players are staying and which will be leaving. KRO
Great pod cast, I have felt we were down when we couldn't muster up a performance against Rotherham and Huddersfield. But I looking what academy players are coming through, we could build around that quality. Create a core of players that will develop and grow together.
Thanks Keith :)
Yeah, we have some really impressive youth players the big 3 that come to mind are Donovan, Dixon and Chang. They seem like they could be really bright future prospects. Donovan especially looks insane.
The goals he scores are crazy. Just needs to fill out and get some more practice at a higher level and he could be a force to be reckoned with.
Very best, KRO!.
I went to Tranmere in 94 when we won and still got relegated with Barry Fry. 1995 what happened double winners. Taity shit on the Villa t-shirt and guess what won the championship at the other relegated team Huddersfield Town
Still got my Wembley match day program and ticket stub I was 11 at the time lol never a dull moment as a blue nose. KRO 💙
I have been thinking the same thing, new owners, got relegated, won the auto windscreen shield the promoted.
Thanks for commenting Chris!
Matt here, my dad remembers these days and he said there were actually a lot of good times during that era. Being 33 I only remember the old division 1 and many playoff near misses but this one hurts particularly bad.
At least we might win a few more games next season, especially on the road 😂
We go again next season!
Very best, KRO!
Some great insight again both. As you say, relegation is confirmed but now we need to look forward - starting with confirmation of TM's return / future. Of course we wish him all the best but the sooner the manager situation is sorted we can plan and move forward the better. I think the club needs that stability. This is a reset moment for Blues and, however disappointing relegation is, this is an opportunity for the club to create Blues' identity for the next 5-10 years.
Thank you for your comment. I think we’ve reached a key moment in our clubs history and I truly believe that things from this point will start to get progressively better.
I also think the manager situation will be clarified soon and I really hope that Tony is fit and well and able to rejoin us again as I think he would be perfect for league one. KRO
As tough as it is , its not unexpected therefore its a bit easier to take , ive been ok with this for weeks now i knew we were going down , its reset time now unfortunately i can see a couple of seasons in league one whilst we re- build , clear out the very poor players we have and hopefully get some youth in . My concern is a manager , i just dont see Mowbray coming back 😒
The manager appointment is huge . Would love Mowbray to sort our squad out, but I too don't think he'll be returning - so in that case where do we turn🤔
Thanks for commenting Paul.
Yeah I think a lot of fans had resided to the fact relegation was happening but I must admit when it happens it really does hit you like a ton of bricks! I also see Mowbray retiring or taking an extended break.
I do wish him all the best and speedy recovery with his family and I would LOVE for him to come back I think he is the perfect man for it.
I think an announcement from the club will happen over the coming weeks.
Very best, KRO!
All the best lads great club the blues. They need a massive clearout & rebuild usually it takes about 2 years. I will keep in touch QPR fan
Thank you very much for your comment Gareth, which is greatly appreciated and well done to QPR for turning your season around. Hopefully onto bigger and better things in the future for both of our clubs. KRO
We need to crack on with it now and get the right players in for next season, it's gona be tougher than people think in league 1 but I'm strangely looking forward to it!
Thanks for commenting, really appreciated :)
Yeah I agree that League 1 is an extremely tough league. Derby, Portsmouth, Ipswich and even Leeds have spent some time down there and it's a very difficult division to crack. It's a different style of football. Lots of long balls and very physical league which we need to adapt and get used to.
Hopefully we can have a good summer recruitment and get the players we need to adapt to that league and also players who are actually up for the fight and battle and give there all for 90 minutes.
Very best, KRO!
14:30 I witnessed our own fans fighting in the upper gil Merick after our fans was throwing bottles and food down at the norwhich fans two broken noses and a lot of stewards was pretty appalled by that
Thanks for commenting Ryan!
Ahh! I'm genuinely gutted to hear this. I have seen it quite a lot this season at away games in particular with our fans getting really frustrated at each other.
I get that people were upset and emotions were high but this is never acceptable. I see Birmingham City as a huge family club. There are lots of families in and around me and I started going at the age of 5 with my dad and have always felt really safe and it has a wonderful family vibe MOST games.
I hope the people affected have reported and tried to sort this out.
Very best, KRO!
Norwich fan here. Had lots of good chats with Brum fans on the way to the ground. Genuinely disappointed for you to have gone down. But what happened at the final whistle was bizarre. Brum fans seemed mad at us Norwich fans, not your own board. Food was thrown down at us from the upper tier and I was hit on my back by a coin thrown from there too. Hope you guys bounce back though. We were rubbish tbh and I don’t think we will get past Leeds, but stranger things have happened.
@@displaycalibration2724 thank you for your comment and really sorry to hear what happened to you after the final whistle. I hate hearing that and apologise as the vast majority of our fan base a great fans and decent people. The playoffs are always tough but wishing you all the best! KRO
We been down before let’s just reflect relax rebuild & come back stronger let’s give the papa johns EFL trophy ago aswell By the looks of it we will have the biggest stadium in league 1 when we return just make as much noise as possible we KRO its heart wrenching now but we need to stick together and move forward brilliant pod cast guys 👍🏼
Lovely comment, thank you, Danny :)
The one big thing next season is with the biggest budget, stadium etc, we immediately have a target on our heads as the team to beat. A bit like Leicester in the championship this season.
We need good summer recruitment to get us ready for this new physical league and come out with a vengeance to show our intentions.
Thanks again, KRO!
@@BCFCRoyalBlue totally agree once the dust settles the club have got a lot of work todo behind the scenes on players ins n outs to strengthen our squad in all areas as it’s going to be a dog fight in this league n not just players as much I want Tony Mowbray to return the club gonna have to make sure he is well enough and wants to continue but all in good time KRO
@@dannybindley7880 I think most Blues fans are hoping for Tony to return. Let’s keep our fingers crossed. KRO
We go again, put this behind us, take the learning and get stronger. I do feel for Tom Wagner, he's put a lot into this club, time, effort, energy, money, just incredible resource all around.
We are down because of years of mismanagement. There has also been a lack of responsibility from the squad. A lot of people need to look at themselves. We move on 💙
Thanks, Peter!
Yeah, I saw a clip of Wagner after the game yesterday and he looked genuinely devastated. I think a lot of people have a lot to answer for this season but it isn't as easy as one element for me. I think it's the perfect storm of A LOT of problems at this club that have created the perfect storm and relegation.
We go again next season!
Very best, KRO!
To be honest i think Gary Cook needs to go. So many managers this season, his handling has not been upto the standards he's required of others. The introduction to Wayne Rooney, setting expectations and a bar so high it seemed unprofessional. Fearless football dont think so.
Thanks for commenting, we always appreciate it :)
I think a lot of people have a lot to answer this summer. The board, the players and the recruitment etc even more than that, have all played a part but yes absolutely no doubt the impact the manager turnover has had this season.
Very best, KRO!
Hi guys
Well it’s been coming and we just gotta take it on the chin,we need to pick ourselves up and get on with it
The coming weeks we need clarity on the manager situation and hopefully TM will be back and then build a team to get straight back up but it won’t be easy
KRO
Thanks Charley,
Agree, we wish Tony all the best however I am dubious about his return. I fear he may retire or take an extended break away from football as he is a big family man.
I am sure we will hear something from the club over the coming weeks and I hope everything with his family and recovery is doing well.
He is the perfect manager for league 1, his style of football, he knows the league and I think he is the man to get us straight back up but let's wait and see.
Very best, KRO!
Good luck next season, your fans deserved better.
Thank you very much for your comment which is greatly appreciated. KRO
I've had a couple/few days to reflect on our season, and i felt compelled to capture my thoughts and share them. Apologies, as this will be a rather long comment 🤣🤣
Where to start.....it makes sense if I go back to the start of the season. The new owners come in, and there's just this sense of relief that we now have owners who care about the club and the overriding feelings are of excitement and optimism for the future. We started the season off really well. The Leeds and Plymouth games instantly spring to mind. Eustace, for the most part, was doing a brilliant job. The players played for him. Every team lodes matches, so we were never going to win them all. But the decision to get rid of him and do do in the manner which it was done was a disgrace. That decision alone caused so much damage and undid all the good work that had been done up until that point. The owners and the board got it so badly wrong. The vast majority of blame is on Cook. Then, to make things even worse, they choose to appoint Rooney.
I never wanted him from day one, and Rooney did absolutely nothing to change my opinion that the club had made a massive mistake. It can't be underestimated just how much damage was caused by the sacking of Eustace and the appointment of Rooney.
Whist we wouldn't have been promoted and 5th position in the league was one that could change easily given how results could go and the teams being quite close in amongst and around us, we wouldn't have been relegated. We would've finished in the top half/mid table nice and comfortable away from the relegation picture. Instead, what happened is the owners and Rooney tried to change too much and top quickly, and the confidence of the players drained, and our results were awful, and the atmosphere at the club became toxic. Rooney was never a bluenose, and he was never going to be one either.
Cook is a Bluenose who, for some reason, seemed to have forgotten what being a Bluenose was and is all about. Clearly, his time away from the city, he had forgotten his roots. I hope now after that colossal failure of a decision he has found them again. The thing is, it's not even possible to say that he made a good business decision. There was neither heart or head in what he did. Cook has so much to answer for, and I find it hard, despite all the good things that he has done at and for the club to forgive him.
This summer is absolutely massive. We have to overhaul the entire squad, but we do so now as a League One club. Players coming to the end of their contracts, loan players going back to their parent clubs, and of course, there will be players under contract that other clubs will want to sign.
Our business in the January transfer window wasn't great. It wasn't awful, but we didn't sign someone to go up top, and that's what we really needed to do. I appreciate that all clubs want and need decent strikers, and we most definitely did to help and support Stansfield, who was outstanding all season. It came as no surprise to see/hear that he cleaned up at the end of season awards. If only we could've stayed in the Championship, I really do think that we stood a very realistic chance of signing him either permanently or at the very least another season on loan. I highly doubt either of those things happening now.
Back to the managerial situation. Of course, no one could've forseen Mowbray having to take an extended period of time away from the club. He looked to be at the very least steading the ship. Unfortunately, when Venus was in charge, the ship soon became a wreck and was sinking fast. Unfortunately, the club reacted too slowly, and again, significant damage was caused to the team/squad, and we never recovered, and Rowett couldn't do enough to turn things around. Rowett made mistakes, all managers do, human beings after all, but one decision still baffles me and will continue to do so as long as I live and that was his decision to pick and start Burke against Rotherham and having to admit he got it badly wrong by dragging him off at half time. Burke wasn't injured he was just poor. He let Rowett down, but then Rowett let himself down by picking him. That being said, Rowett, for the most part, did better than not, but he didn't have long enough time to turn things around.
Different players played better under different managers, with only really Stansfield being the one that was consistently picked and performed the most consistently from the start to the finish of the season.
Out of all the managers we had last season, Eustace got the best and the most from the squad overall. I firmly believe that we should've stuck with him and then evaluated at the end of the season to see where we go from there. Obviously, that didn't happen, and we are where we are. Yes, the players are the consistent and common denominators over the course of the season, but for me the managerial changes be that in or out of the clubs control, i believe are the most significant contributing factors to us being relegated. That's not to excuse or defend the players as many have let themselves, the club, and the fans down.
We now need to recruit for league one and hope that we can get back into the championship ASAP.
Obviously, there are the ambitious plans to move to a new stadium, and in the meantime, there are plans to spend further money and make changes and further improvements to St Andrews. Being in League One is a major and massive blow in terms of those short-term plans. There's absolutely no disguising or getting away from that. Whilst League One, in some ways, will bring a bit of excitement of visiting new grounds and I'm sure away fans will want to travel to St Andrews. The club will seriously have to look at its pricing for season and match day tickets and corporate and hospitality packages costs/charges. So, getting relegated from both the football and business side of things means the club i would imagine have to reassess their plans for St Andrews. With the plans off the pitch that puts even more pressure to get the plans on the pitch right. If the plan is to still go ahead with the plans to change St Andrews then we need a team and squad that will get us promotion at the first time of asking and as we know, from other clubs that have found themselves in our position, there's absolutely no given that this will happen. I think Blues and Wrexham will be for most if not all teams in League One the big scalps, so we have that added pressure, too.
You couldn't make it up, could you. Right rant over. I feel much better now 🤣🤣 I do feel optimistic about our short and longer term future I really do (I appreciate it might not read like that at times, but I just wanted and needed to give my assessment as to where it all went wrong and the impact of being relegated to League One will have).
I hope the club get both the business and the football decisions right as the two go very much hand in hand. The club can ill afford to make anything like the huge mistakes that were made last season. So, no pressure 🤣🤣
I hope we see really big numbers turn out. The atmosphere before the games outside, where there's a real buzz (i know that there are the plans to further improve that experience) and the noise inside the stadium during the game itself is what we need to see and hear on a regular and constant basis. So please Blues get the plans and the pricing right to make sure this happens to compensate for the mistakes of last season and build momentum for the clubs future.
KRO 💙
Thank you very much for your comment Richard which is greatly appreciated.
You sum up the whole season in one post very well and it is clear when you read it that there are lots of mistakes that have been made and lots that could have been done differently.
The points you make about the future are very important especially the need to recruit properly in the summer in order to get ourselves out of League One.
Let’s lick our wounds? Probably have a miserable few months as we still come to terms with relegation and then I’m sure we will all come together again and be excited about the new season. Although it might not seem like it today, the future is very bright and I’m sure we will now go onto bigger and better things. KRO
@@BCFCRoyalBlue
Let the joys commence.....
KRO 💙
@@richardpincher8936 absolutely, we’ve had enough sorrows that’s for sure! KRO
*I just looked at the league one table and i can honestly say there isn't any teams*
*to be excited about hopefully next season we can manage to beat huddesfield*
*and rotherham*
Thanks for commenting!
I mean we might make that Wrexham documentary? Brady vs Reynolds 😂
Yeah, it is going to be a bit of a culture shock for supporters who regularly go to away games. The capacities are also going to be quite a bit lower so our allocations will be harder to get any tickets.
Now it's official, I'm personally okay with getting to see some new stadiums and play some new teams. Big re-build needed.
We go again next season, KRO!
@@BCFCRoyalBlue true time to rebuild with some taller players and a few strong physical ones
@@standfortruth4568 KRO
Don’t underestimate how tough League 1 is to get out off!!
@@Tino11162 the championship was too tough for blues to stay in. league one has a lot of physical guys ready to bully you off the ball.
also for every team down there playing blues will be there big day out but for us even i can't get worked up thinking of going to stevenage.
I'm not gutted tbh looking forward to league one something different from playing the same teams every season. new players will be coming in 👍💙
New stadiums, new teams, new matchday experiences.
We are Birmingham City and we will make the most of this and look back as our low point whilst we now re-build which some huge turnover this summer.
Roll on another season and hopefully, we will come back better, stronger and more united fanbase.
Very best, KRO!
@@BCFCRoyalBlue
Exactly 👍💙
@@johnwarren9112 KRO
Blackburn fan here. Eustace definitely saved us, we was going down with JDT. Massive club and way too big for league 1. I’m sure you’ll come straight back up! We had a blast in league 1 a few years ago
Thank you very much for your comments. Yes, pleased he helped you to stay up he did a decent job here as well. Hopefully we will come back stronger. KRO
@@BCFCRoyalBlue best of luck next season! I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on how it unfolds, hopefully for the best!
@@RoversBlueAndWhite thank you very much for your kind comments which are greatly appreciated. KRO
As for the game,l thought Norwich played with there foot off the gas,--and everything has been said now,and were all gutted,--in fact its the third time l,ve seen them drop into the third tier,--but it gets no easier to take,---however its about getting back up now and we must try and do it next season,-it will be tough but we have the backing and resourses behind us,and of course our great fans,--i,ll be renewing as usual,and l hope everybody else will,-great podcast,KRO
Thanks Brian!
This is Matt on the comments today and this is my first relegation to the third tier so I was truly devastated by my dad has been telling me about the 1994 season and actually how fondly he looks over those times. He said he made some brilliant memories during that era in our history.
We will go down there as blues always do and we will fight to the end. I think the fanbase now needs to come together and prove to everyone how great this club is. Hopefully a good summer recruitment and Mowbray coming back will set us up nicely to hit the ground running in the new season.
Very best, KRO!
that handball for the 1-1 against hull could say now has cost us kro
Thank you for your comment Ray. I’ve been thinking of instances like that that would have been the difference with us stopping up however there are so many, and it’s really frustrating.
I’m sure we have better times ahead so after we have hurt for a little while I’m sure we will be back bigger and stronger than ever! KRO
It's not the end of the world we have been awful for 8 years escaping relegation but learning from mistakes.rooney for me was worse decision this football club have made in 52 years of me supporting blues.i will be there next season and season after supporting them let's kro and embrace challenge
Thank you for your comment Helen and very well said. I think you sum up the feeling of many Blues fans at the moment, gutted but also optimistic about the future.
You will be there next season, we will be there next season and I suspect all of the other Blues fans will be there too! We’ll be there at the end of the road! KRO
Leicester fan here. Sorry we didn't turn up yesterday. Mind you, replacing John Eustace with Rooney seems to have done it for you. A strange decision. Good luck next season.
Thank you for your comment which is greatly appreciated. To be honest we got relegated over the 46 games and we were always in Jeopardy going into the final game in the bottom three.
Very well done to Leicester who were definitely the best team in the division and I wish you all the best when you return to the premier league next season. KRO
Of all the clubs that could have gone down I think BC are the one which will come back up most easily. Just enjoy playing new teams and visiting some new grounds. As you say, it's a reset moment and your future is bright. The only way is up, as they say. As an Argyle fan, had we gone down we would have been down for many years to come, probably wouldn't have seen them back in the second tier in my lifetime (I'm 60).
The word easily doesn't apply to league 1 , sheffield wednesday, were on a good run last season then lost to forest Green rovers and drew with Cheltenham in the space ov 3 days, knocking us off top in into the playoffs, which we scraped through by the miracle ov Hillsborough, league 1 is toughest league ov them all
Thanks for commenting and in such a respectful way, we really appreciate it :)
Fair play to Argyl, you managed to get over the line and we didn't. When I did watch you this season, you haven't played outstanding football however you have wanted games more and had way more fight than we've shown in a lot of games and is ultimately how you managed to do it. You have to be willing to fight and scrap in this league.
Hopefully as you said, we will come straight back up but it is a challenging and physical league.
Good luck next season, KRO! :)
The boos were for the so called fans on the pitch. See what trouble that gets us into. Get behind the team, Keep Right On and lets look forward to a fun transfer filled summer! We are going on a league one tour, were gong down and straight back up!
Thanks for commenting!
I didn't really understand people on the pitch. We got relegated. That's surely a celebratory thing? Just like the players awards, should be cancelled. What on earth are they getting awards for?
The backroom staff who have provided blood, sweat and tears who are on your average salaries are the heroes, not the players picking up silly money and getting relegated.
Very best, KRO!
@@BCFCRoyalBlue I think it’s a thing small minded people can justify to themselves. If we got a points ban now it would be these so called supporters fault.
I agree, it was nice to give Stansfield the recognition he deserved, but not many players can hold their heads high this season.
Thanks for the reply, enjoy the summer and I’m sure when I go we sit in a similar block, see you next season and KRO!
Blues fan of over 50 years. Its what we deserved. Wayne Rooney was in my opinion was the underlying reason....
Ive seen It before. Its put us back a year. We Will be back KRO
Thanks for commenting Graham.
Absolutely no denying how that derailed the season and momentum. I also think the players do have a lot to answer for but I am drawing a line in the sand now. It's happened, we are down. As a club and fanbase let's come together and get behind the club to bounce back as quickly as we possible can.
Thanks again, KRO! :)
@@BCFCRoyalBlue yes. Its done so lets get on with It.
In a strange Sort of way im disapointed but not worried for the future. We need stability in a manager and good recruitment. Maybe let some of the youngsters have a chance. When we went down last time we came straight back Up....l Hope we do this time but this is not an easy league to get out of 🤞🤞🤞
@@grahamfoster6222 absolutely, here is too a much brighter future! Onwards and upwards. KRO
Hi guys one of my posts has gone missing again. Like the one before it contained a link so I wonder if that was the problem?
The link was to an article in The Daily Mirror titled "Birmingham City Relegation Post Mortem". It's well worth a read and contains one or two things that I didn't know, assuming that they are true of course.
KRO
Thank you for your comment. We don’t delete any comments unless they contain swear words or abusive or offence language. If it contains a link it may have been filtered by RUclips. We will take a look to see if we can find it. KRO
Who'd have thought that all the team's getting 3 points. Good luck getting out of lge 1 as you l'll be everyone's cup final and they raise there games. It took Wednesday 2 seasons to get out but i must admit it's great winning and being top of a league for a change. All the best blue's 👍...WAWAW
Thank you for your comment which is appreciated. I think most Blues fans know that getting out of league one won’t be easy, Hopefully we can recruit the right type of players and make a swift return. Good luck to Wednesday moving forward. KRO
OK we went down hurts but in 12 months time back up as champions I can live with that
Thanks for commenting, always appreciated :)
I would love for us to come straight back up but this is a very difficult and different league. Ipswich, Derby, Portsmouth, Sunderland etc have all spent time at this level and it took them slightly longer than anticipated to get out.
These new owners aren't messing around, they will want to get us back up as quickly as possible. In League 1 we will arguably have the biggest stadium, fan base, and summer budget but we will need to get the recruitment right and get the right players in with fight and determination.
I am hoping for an immediate bounce back too and we might actually win some games on the road this season instead of a mere 3 😂. Let's follow the Ipswich model and get back to back promotions, that would be amazing.
Very best, KRO!
It's just a shopping trolley in front of a train at full speed. Now it's time for Wagner's vision to come to fruition. My 4th relegation but I'm weirdly excited for what's to come
Thanks for commenting, always appreciated :)
I really hope we have a good recruitment this summer and makes us ready and prepared to come straight back up. It is a difficult and very physical league so hopefully they realise and look at this when they look at the type of players we want.
Very best, KRO!
I agree; atmosphere was indeed electric, yet tense. And true - we didn’t get relegated on Saturday - we got relegated over 46 games. I was praying for Plymouth or Blackburn to lose, but it wasn’t meant to be. As gutting as being relegated to League One is, it really is no surprise that we have ended up here. Still, I’m looking forward to the next season, and to brighter years ahead for Blues. Onwards and upwards, KRO! 💙🤍
~Catherine
Thanks for commenting Catherine :)
The Fanzone, the buzz and the atmosphere were all generally amazing. Really great being around a fully packed-out St Andrews. Shame it wasn't to be and I can't believe the other 3 teams directly above all won. I mean, that's the definition of it being out of your hands. We didn't do enough over 46 games.
We go again next season for League 1. It's only been 4 days and I'm already excited for the new season to start. I have an addiction 😂
Very best, KRO!
We're all grieving at the moment, but being a blues fan isn't about fair weather supporting. Much like the city we represent It's about getting up when you're down and showing everyone what we are made of. We need to get down there next season, sell out St Andrews and make sure we do our bit to back the ambitions of the club.
Thank you for your comment Neil. Yes, we are hurting at the moment but we know that once the dust settles we will all be back again next season supporting the Blues and helping the club to get back up again.
There will be a much needed overhaul of the squad in the summer and hopefully we can start to get players with the right types of attitudes. We need some leaders and players who will roll up there sleeves when needed. KRO
Strangely although I am disappointed maybe we should look on it as an opportunity for a big clear out and restart. Of course there have been some shocking performances this season and although the Rooney disaster was right up there as one of the main reasons for where we are, as I said in my previous post I think a fair proportion of our players were only here for the money and didn't care enough about winning. In this league we will need 2 or 3 Sunjic's, players who will get stuck in. I would also like to see the youngsters given more of a chance. Maybe a chance for Junior Dixon ?
Thanks for commenting John.
I agree that Sunjic-style players in this league are 100% necessary. It's very physical with lots of disruptor-style players. We need players who are willing to get stuck in, fight and graft for the badge :)
I also agree with trailing and giving some youngsters a bit more time next year, Chang, Donovan and Dixon certainly come to mind. I would also like us to go to a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2. Let's see what players we bring in and what style we want to play but it's going to be a big re-build.
Very best, KRO!
We will be the biggest team in the Midlands when our stadium is builded
Thank you for your comment. At this point in time we are getting a lot of stick from other fans which is only to be expected, however they have no idea about our owners and about what will be happening to our club over the next few years. I would say, let them have there fun, let them enjoy it. I’m sure they will be taken by surprise when they see how this club is moving forward in the next few years. KRO
Balanced and fair
Thanks for commenting! Really appreciated.
KRO!
Looked in the programme and March we lost every game. If we got a manager in straight after Tony departed we may have stayed up
Yes, that was definitely a factor. To be fair to Mark Venus he never wanted to be a manger and the role was suddenly thrust upon him. I also think that if we had got Gary Rowett in earlier then we probably would not have been relegated, but who knows. KRO
Hi Gary and Matt, yes relegation confirmed unfortunately . Our luck didn’t work league 1 will be very hard poor grade of football will need to grind out the points.
Thanks Michael, yes we are gutted.
We will come back better, stronger and more united. You are right we need to get the recruitment ready this summer for the new standard and types of players that thrive in league 1 as it's a very physical league.
Very best, KRO!
One example of goal conceded in last 15 mins… Millwall away and Roberts folding like a paper bag and gifting a free header
Too many individual mistakes throughout the season
Thanks for commenting :)
My mind has also been racing on all these scenarios:
The handball at Hull? The Plymouth 3-1 lead? Rotherham / Huddersfield games? All the manager turnover etc.
There are so many different games and details we could go into but if you can't beat 23rd and 24th in the final 3 games of the season and don't get enough points across 46 games you deserve to go as much as it hurts.
Very best, KRO!
@@BCFCRoyalBlue making Stoke on Boxing Day look like 70’s Brazil. Not scoring home or away against bottom side (and remember walking out after Millers thinking we were lucky to get a point). Turnover of managers is one reason, having to use BHSL transfer budget last summer is another. World Class is another - on and off field, new owners raised the bar from inept and below average. There will have been off field departures thinking F this I won’t be doing that. Players can’t rip up contract and will down tools.
Finally 😂 rowett last press conference - named ruddy, juke and Gardner as oniy players that will put a shift in on training pitches - so mentality of squad.
Still when we are without the remains of 10 yrs of dross, we can truly move on / change mentality of club (but then we have Tyler Roberts for another 3 years)
@@dunboyblue73 thank you for your comment. Let’s hope for better times ahead. KRO
All the goals conceded in last 5 minutes cost at least 10 points.
Thanks for commenting :)
Certainly a contributing factor but a lot of things went wrong for us this season. It really has been a calamity and one to forget.
We go again next season and hopefully back bigger and better.
Thanks again, KRO!
@@BCFCRoyalBlue Over-ambitious though thinking a big name would bring big results..Cooke-Rooney was the thing that unhinged and unsettled a delicate balance with loan players coming and going. Going for Premier straight away was absurd, not getting a second striker in January compounded matters and everything just fell apart
@@italgong there are many factors that contributed to our relegation and I’m sure as a club we will learn from these. I’m confident moving forward that our owners have the commitment and resources to get us where they want us to be, so into bigger and better things. KRO
I blame the players . After Eustace 4/5 mangers couldn't get a tune out of the players. Yes we didn't want Rooney but I expected the players to be professional and do their jobs. I'd get rid of the lot but that isn't going to happen so the only ones I'd keep imo are
Sunjic
Bielik
Keshi
Juke
Bucannon.
Btw Love the channel, cant wait for the post match videos on how we smashed Stockport away etc 😂. KRO.
Thanks for the comment and kind words, we love the fans and doing this podcast so we can engage with you all.
Yeah, I personally think it was the perfect storm of manager turnover, recruitment and the players. They certainly have a lot to answer for. I hope they don't have an award evening. What are they celebrating?
Very best, KRO!
The positives are you may win the league next year and/or should make the playoffs... just having a winning mentality and feeling again in the stadium will feel good. In my opinion better to have a winning season in league 1 than 10 relegation battle seasons in championship like you have done. Sunderland is a good example to look at, down to league one and not there very long and you have better ownership now than they do who will spend money on players. Obviously recruiting proper players is key here but with your budget and if Mobray stays on you have every reason to be good again. Trust me winning even in the lower leagues feels better than losing in a higher league. You just feel good and positive on the weekends! Would be interesting to get Sheffield united fans views on this....
Thank you for your comment. You are quite right, we have struggled in the bottom half of the Championship for over 8 years and we have lost so many games. It will be nice to win a few games and hopefully start to be competitive again.
Our recruitment in the summer is crucial and we need to ensure we bring players in with the right character as well as ability. KRO
What can I say.....? I've been waiting for this video. What an unbelievable day yesterday. It's unbelievable in the sense that I can't believe what happened. Unfortunately, we left it too late, and sadly, when it's not in your own hands, there was the real danger that the unthinkable would happen, and sadly, for us, it did. However, we only have ourselves to blame. The table doesn't lie. We were the third worst team in the league.
The scenes at the end of the game with a minority (mainly kids but some adults too) were really disappointing to see. The stewarding left a lot to be desired so some training of how to deal with that sort of situation is needed, although it's not something that happens that often and the scenes of which I don't wish to see again. I have no idea how much that had an impact on the number of fans that remained to see the players do their season ending farewell lap. I'm pleased that I chose to stay.
I want to highlight two players, if I may. First of all, Jay Stansfield. The player of the season by an absolute country mile!
Of course there's so many reasons why getting relegated is so rubbish but one of those reasons is if we'd stayed up, i genuinely thought that we had a serious chance of signing Stansfield on a permanent basis or, at the very least, another season on loan, and then who knows.
I say we roll the dice on what would be as secure a gamble as gambles go.....
I say we ask him and Fulham to name their price and give them and what he deserves, or we at the very least have him back on loan again and go from there. We have nothing to lose.
Stansfield is by far the standout player of the season, both in terms of quality and commitment.
He's a proper pro. Clearly, he's a very grounded and settled family man who's mature beyond his years.
I will never forget his debut, which set the tone for the rest of his season. What a player. A proper Bluenose.
Sadly, already in his young life, he has suffered the trauma of losing his Father. His family will undoubtedly be so proud of the player that he is and, more importantly, the young man that he is. His Dad would've been and will be so proud of him looking down and his greatest legacy is his son Jay Stansfield.
Stansfield is without a doubt my favourite player down the Blues since the days of Christophe Duggary. We all know what Duggary achieved as a player, so I'm not comparing them in that way but it doesn't feel wrong in anyway to mention the two of them in the same breathe (comment). I just hope that Stansfield is a Blues player a lot lot longer. If ever a man had earned himself a name your price contract Stansfield is that man. In the modern world of football Stansfield is a shining beacon of what being a player should be about.
On that note, I feel it's only right to mention Juke. This is not how I hoped his time at Blues would come to an end. The fact he came out on his own with a gap from the rest of the squad felt like a very final goodbye. It's such a shame he was met with hardly anyone left to say goodbye to and us to him. An absolute Blues legend. He would more than do a job for us in League One so if the club were to offer him a one year contract I would be delighted. Head and heart speaking. Juke is the sort of character that we love and need. I would love him to continue his relationship with Blues as a player and as a coach be that included in his role next year or in future years.
A special mention to Wagner, too. The man is nothing but class. He will be hurting like the rest of us, not just from the perspective as an owner but as a fan. Wagner was really let down by Cook who has so much blood on his hands from this season (i do acknowledge all the good stuff that he has done too). But what's done is done, and I don't want to dwell on or end on that point.
The final words have to go to you two Gary and Matt. Your channel is so professional. Your content is always so balanced and you can't help but like the two of you and the wonderful relationship that you have with each other. You two epitomise why I love our club. Why I'm so pleased and proud to call myself a Bluenose. Thank you. Both of you. Proper class acts, proper, proper, proper Bluenose's. You take the time, care and attention to read and respond to all my comments. What I love about this channel is how engaging and interactive it is.
I look forward to seeing more of your videos in the off and pre season as well as the ones throughout the course of our 2024/25 League One season (hopefully the one and only 🤞🤞)
I hope you and all the other Bluenoses in the world have a brilliant summer. Thanks again, gents.
Forever True, Forever Blue. KRO 💙
Thanks for commenting and always engaging with the channel Richard, we really appreciate the voice from you and other loyal blues fans who follow this channel.
We love this club and we were truly gutted yesterday. That drive home from the stadium was the lowest I have been for a long while. This is Matt on the comments today but my dad was in the car on the drive home and he was reminding me off the 1994 season and various other moments in the clubs history that he looks back on fondly and we basically said right there and then; let's make the most of it down there, let's see some new stadiums, experience some new matchdays and in typical blues fashion not give up and give it everything we have. We will come back stronger I have no doubt.
I think the recruitment has to be absolutely spot on. This is a different league with different styles of play. It is a lot scrappier and more physical. We need to be prepared for this and recruit accordingly. More aggression, desire, fight and willingness to get stuck in.
I can't add or agree anymore about Stansfield and Juke. Stansfield has made the jump up from League 1 to championship seamlessly and STILL managed to score 13 goals this season with the service our players were giving him. He will go on to score some serious goals in a team providing him more service. Juke is Juke, what a legend, it saddened me to possibly see his last game in a blues shirt. Hopefully they can re-negotiate and give him another year or possibly a coaching role? I just don't want to lose him from the club and if can stay connected somehow I would love that.
Thank you SO much for the kind words and throwing us into the positive area of the season for the club. It means the world to us that we can produce content like this that people enjoy and engage with and interact with the greatest fanbase! Don't worry we will still be producing content over the summer. Albeit at a lower volume but we will be bringing the transfer rumours, the in's the out's the ups the downs.
Very best, KRO!
@SmallHeathAllianceFC Yeah, sadly, the recruitment does have to be very different to give League One the respect that it deserves. We will obviously be one of the bigger clubs in the division, but as we know, given other clubs that have gone down, it's not easy to bounce straight back at the first time and the case of some clubs stay there for some time or worst still drop down further.
However, I think that the club will have learnt from the mistakes made that cost us our championship status.
100% agree about keeping Juke at the club in a coaching capacity. It's not Goe me to say if he has a season or two left in him as a Player at Blues and the club to sit down with him with regards to their thoughts on the situation. If he's to move on, then I know that he would be made more than welcome back at St Andrews or the new stadium for a visit or as part of the backroom staff.
I'm fortunate to have seen the two biggest games in my lifetime. The Cardiff Stadium play off final and of course the Carling Cup final at Wembley.
I hope that we will enjoy more days like this in the future. Amazing memories!!
Thank you, Matt, once again for your very detailed and personal response.
KRO 💙
Yeah we were chatting about this earlier today; Portsmouth, Derby, Ipswich and even Leeds have spent time in league 1 and found it difficult to escape. I think if we have a good summer recruitment we stand a very good chance of coming back however it will not be easy as it will be such an overhaul this summer the team, players and manager need time to gel. We will make the most of it that's for sure :)
I have had many amazing memories as a blues fan too. Those 2 were amazing and I also remember the final against Liverpool. That epic night against Ipswich that got us there. This club has given me great memories and the fans make it even more special.
We go again next year. Come on you blue boys! KRO :)
@@BCFCRoyalBlue KRO 💙
@@richardpincher8936 KRO
The arrogance bcfc fans had running up to the end of the season was unbelievable. Saying we’re too big to go down. You’ve been in and around relegation for years, and coming straight back up is what every team thinks will happen but it’s simply not as easy as that.
Thank you for your comment. I think most Blues fans who watched the team on a regular basis this season were aware of the trouble we were in and knew that like many other teams, there is no such thing as a team too big to go down.
We also know how tough it will be to come straight back up but we will be there next season to support our team and hopefully we will see a change in fortunes. KRO
Relegation was the prefect storm of poor recruitment. Wether managerial: appointing Rooney, sticking with Venus. Or player recruitment: too many players lacking physicality, lack of battlers, no striker brought in, etc.
Moving forward, if Tony ain’t back to lead us, I dont want Rowett. Let’s get a progressive manager with a proven record of delivering in L1/Championship. And we need to consider if our recruitment team good enough - cos our recruitment last few years has been rubbish. KRO
Thanks Stephen :)
Agree relegation was a perfect storm of a lot of different things going wrong this season and the lack of leaders, physicality.
This 100% needs to improve next season. League 1 is such a physical league we will get bullied off the park. Hopefully the recruitment looks at these areas and get us some fighters / leaders in.
We go again next season.
Very best, KRO!
Last big club that, was relegated to division 1 was MANCHESTER CITY, look where they are now.KRO
I didn't know Man City were once in league one. 🤞
Thanks for commenting!
I believe this was in 1998? only 24 years ago. That might seem like a long time ago but contextually and in football years that isn't that long when you consider how far they have gone and how formidable that team now is.
Very best, KRO!
Keep on going to the end🤣
We will be back and hopefully stronger than ever :)
It's not the end of the world we got the finance behind us I've been a blues from any 60 years now and you got to learn to go with the a good times will follow and we were bigger then Villa women hovering around that bottom end for years an anxiety and the time that we go down a plug off so look at the future and cheer up
Thanks David, always appreciated :)
Yeah, I agree with the finances, if we can get the recruitment right then we should be big favourites to come straight back up. Relegation still doesn't not hurt but it's sort of what we expect now as blues fans. We have had 12 years of this in particular but over your 60 years probably known much worse times.
Roll on the season in league 1 with new stadiums and hoepfully some more wind under our belt :)
Very best, KRO!
It will be hard trying to get out of league 1. I say u be there for at least 3 years
Thanks for commenting, really appreciated :)
Yeah, it's a very difficult decision but if we can have a summer and get the right type of players in for this division I think we COULD bounce straight back.
This isn't arrogance, we are in for a tough season and this is an extremely tough league, I am just hoping we get the recruitment right in the summer and it places us in the strongest position possible.
Very best, KRO!
Do you trust your owners look what they done to john eustace
@@David-martin1992 yes fully trust the owners. Made one big mistake but everything else had been brilliant, KRO
Come rain, snow or relegation I'll be there next season. Once a Blue always a Blue.
Love this comment. Short, sweet and bang on the money!
We will also be there mate. We go through these highs and lows together and we will also be right there. At least next season we might get some more wins on the road which will feel nice 😂
Very best, KRO!
All I want to see is good attacking football . No fear.!
Thanks for commenting, always appreciated :)
When I read "no fear" I am still getting Rooney PTSD 😂
I completely agree. We have been so uninspiring going forward for many seasons now. The last team/striker I remember getting excited with was Che Adams. Stansfield has had a great season and by a mile the strongest and most consistent player but he has had no service and a lack of quality around him.
Let's hope the recruitment can nail it this summer and we can sort of replicate the Ipswich model. Shows that back-to-back promotions can happen but this is a very tough league that isn't to be underestimated and I do worry that we need some serious leaders, fighters and people not scared to get stuck in.
Very best, KRO!
Time for a good clear out , there's a few who really don't deserve to wear the shirt ,will be a very hard year in front of us
Thanks Harvey!
Time for a good clear out indeed :)
Very best, KRO!
Commiserations, shocked one result didn't go your way.
Thank you for your comment. That is the problem with going into the final game rely on other results and it just didn’t happen for us. The truth is that over 46 games we were just not good enough and ultimately suffered relegation. I’m sure we will lick our wounds and be fired up again for next season which hopefully will see us bounce straight back m. KRO
Need to focus on players that are available to play and not spending week after week on the treatment table ,
Thanks for commenting, really appreciate it :)
We certainly need a good recruitment this summer. Players ready to fight and graft and get us back up. Hopefully we can follow the Ipswich model. Back to back promotions whilst playing a really fast tempo off football.
Very best, KRO!
Ncfc Fan - hello again - Agree Big RESET, But i look at it as seeing birmingham will be still under big pressure as will be favourite's for winning EL1 next season - So they do need start well, Think rowett was always on a lose lose position......
Thank you for your comment. Yes, we know that league one will be tough and as long as we can recruit well in the summer I think we will have a good chance of coming straight back up. All the best in the playoffs, we wish you well. KRO
Gutted, but we have been here before. Just hope Tony Mowbray is fit for preseason. If not, is it time fot manager number7. Need to hit the ground running.KRO
I really hope Tony Mowbray comes back too. He is the perfect man to stabilise this ship and get us back to where we need to be.
I think a club announcement on the manager will be coming over the next few weeks. We will want to lay those solid foundations over the summer so we can hit the ground running in League 1. That all starts knowing we have a 100% confirmed manager for the start of the season.
As always nothing but well wishes and positivity for Tony Mowbray and his family.
Very best, KRO!
The players were goid enough under JE the blame firmly lays at the door of the board and rooney. After 25 plus years of supporting blues ive had enough. Gary cook needs to go this is unforgivable me im sorry
Thank you for your comment Jamie. Without a doubt the Rooney decision was awful and contributed to our relegation however there are so many other reasons we got relegated. Rooney was sacked at the beginning of January so the players still had well over 20 games to get us out of trouble. The late goals conceded, underperforming players, changes in managers, on field mistakes, not getting a striker in January, the manager merry-go-round..,,,,,,,,,,, It goes on an on. Yes, the board and Gary Cook made a real blunder but they have will also done so many other things off the pitch to start to set the club up and build for the future and I think that is also worth remembering.
We are hurting right now but I’m sure we will all move on together and our club will progress and get to where we all want to be in the coming years, KRO
From a villa man it happened to us we came back so will you guys
This is one of the first respectful comments from a Villa fan today so thank you for that.
Appreciate that and hopefully we come back stronger and we can get that derby back in the calendar in a few years time. We all love it right? Good for the city too.
I’m really not gonna lie I appreciate not blaming it on one thing but let’s face it Rooney ruined our season I’m not saying we’d be getting play offs if we kept eustace but we defo wouldn’t be close to getting relegated if Rooney wasn’t appointed. So yes I agree many factors have contributed but Rooney has definitely been the main reason and without him we’d still be in the championship.
But saying all this I’m not gonna lose hope. We will still come back up maybe via play offs but KRO we will fight till the end
Thank you for your comment. Without a doubt the Rooney appointment was a disaster but as you point out that was not the only reason we got relegated.
I’m sure we will all feel the pain for a while but we will be there at the start of next season to support the club to get us finally moving forward. I think we are in good hands with our owners and they will but stop until they have fulfilled their vision for the club. KRO
I'm not that upset about it tbf it's been coming for years we kept on flirting with the drop it was gonna catch us eventually but on the bright side we've got owners who seem to want the best for the Club yh they messed up with Rooney but they are only human but the players let us down massive especially the last 2 away games but the owners are ambitious so we buy right in summer we could storm league one I'm only expecting us to stay down for 2 years anything longer is a disagree especially with the money and owners we have also one last thing if we strom the league it brings the winning feeling back to St Andrews and to the fans which we have lacked in years
Thanks for commenting mate :)
Yeah, it's been coming for sure but personally yesterday did hit me like a ton of bricks. But already this morning I feel more optimistic. It's happened, we're playing league 1 football next season so dwelling on relegation isn't going to do anyone any good.
We need good recruitment this summer to get us ready for league 1, with how physical the league is, we need a complete overhaul. Players that are willing to fight, get stuck in and show some real leadership qualities for the team.
New stadiums, new matchday experiences and new league to experience so let's get united and enjoy it down there whilst we come back bigger, better and stronger :)
Very best, KRO!
@SmallHeathAllianceFC we'll definitely come back stronger only reason it didn't hit me as hard with us going down because I accepted we would on the last2 away games I fully agree need stronger players which we should be able to get a complete squad rebuild finally lots to look foward to even with us being in league one
@@CrimsonWarrior6334 here to onwards and upwards! KRO
Remember you lot carrying a villa coffin? Well it's time for the blouse coffin. Kro to league 1...love it
You lot kick off in an hour, 4th in the premiere league, a second leg tin pot Europe cup to rescue. Best season in god knows long and you comment on a civilised family BLUES channel.
You wonder why you lot get the reputation for being obsessed. Odd bunch!
I think it's your own fault for sacking your manager when you were 6th.how crazy is that.didn't you also sack rowett the first time when you were 7th
Thank you for your comment. There is a lot more to the Eustace situation that fans outside of our club are not really aware of. The Blues fans however were not happy with the way the sacking of John Eustace was handled and definitely not happy with the appointment of Wayne Rooney, KRO
8/12 points last 4 games normally enough but not this time 🤔
Only the 6th ever club in championship history to get relegated on 50 points. It shows how competitive it has been this year down the bottom. The final day shows it. All 3 teams above us winning their final games. Absolute madness.
Thanks for commenting, KRO!
Just a poor team gifted 3 points against Preston, Coventry were in FA Cup semi final Norwich already in play offs, Tom wanted a big name manager, be careful what you wish for, exciting times ahead yeah, league 1 riveting, KRO next stop league 1 👍⚽😔😞😒
Thanks for commenting John!
Yeah, a lot of questions need answering and accountability to be taken. I personally don't think the players just get off because of all the manager turnover, no doubt on this impact but they have been pretty shocking for a lot of this season too.
Hopefully we come back stronger and a more united fanbase.
Very best, KRO!
Very best to you too as a QPR fan I suffer most Saturday afternoons I know how you feel, My uncle was from Tipperary and lived in Birmingham he loved the Blues, keep the faith 👍⚽🙏
@@johnmoloney4039 thank you very much for your kind comments which are greatly appreciated. KRO
Gary Cooke needs the sack.he pushed through the Rooney deal and took us from 6th spot in the championship to the 1st division. Get rid now.. #sackgarycook
Thanks for commenting, always appreciated :)
I am not understating the importance of that decision it absolutely had a huge impact on our season and I'm sure behind closed doors they will do a post-mortem so to speak and I'd love to be a fly on the wall for those chats to see what he says but yeah, he has a lot to answer for, for that decision.
For me, other factors add to that decision too. for me like the player's attitude and the team's physicality, the recruitment, Mowbray sadly taking ill that no one could have foreseen (we hope he is recovering well) and various other elements. The perfect storm of rubbish on a truly awful season.
We go again next season and we will all be there getting behind the team I'm sure.
Very best, KRO!
I reckon even with the illness of Tony Mowbray he has his friend on recruitment and Mark Venus will be the No 2 unless our owners tell us different
Thanks, Chris :)
I am really intrigued to see what happens with the management position. I do fear that if this was serious, Mowbray is a family man he may decide to take a break from football or retire completely.
I hope he is recovering well and happy with his family and I want more than anything for him to come back. I think he is a great manager.
Big summer and next season. Thanks again, KRO!
@@BCFCRoyalBlue An announcement would be imminent then if things change. Lets just stick to the status quo and assume he is coming back
@@chriswintle664 let’s hope so. KRO
@@BCFCRoyalBlue how do you feel about Gary Rowett carrying on ?
@@michaelstaley2241 really grateful to Gary Rowett for what he has done and respect him fully however I think moving forward that the club will want to move into a different direction and style of play. We will of course wish Gary well wherever he goes. KRO