This was an awesome display. That 75mm though, wow. The 50mm was also a great show. I use the 42.5 f1.2 and the 1.7, they are my favorite lenses, would have been cool to see them in this lineup! Last part to appreciate here is how much every MFT lens and the system itself whooped those phone photos no question.😁 This was a great video!
Nice video -- and I'm floored by how much better the quality of the bokeh (roundness of the balls, smoothness of the background rendering) the 75mm f1.8 was over the rest of the field. (The TTArtisans 50mm 1.2 might have matched it in size, but it has a really distinct cats-eye effect on its blobs). This definitely made me consider picking up the 75mm, regardless of the longer required working distance from the subject.
Why can't mft do it? Long focal length, open the iris and close the distance to subject while having a far away backround. Sure you don't get ff bokeh but you get separation.
Hello Gary, it would be great to see what happens to these photos if, for example, Luminar AI software's bokeh application is used. Especially with MFT photos
I have innumerable 'real-life' (the great outdoors) examples with superb bokeh taken with half a dozen 4/3 and MFT cameras and a wide variety of native glass and vintage lenses. I also have innumerable 'real life' examples shot on a Pentax K-1 using vintage glass. Sensor size has to be acknowledged - in a comparison with everything else the same, bokeh does not present in the same way as with larger format cameras. It is exactly the same phenomena, only reversed, for Macro photography where 4/3 sensors are exceptional. However, the sensor is only a part of the equation, contributing to the result but not determining it. Focal length, distance to subject, aperture setting and distance from subject to background are all critical for DOF and bokeh. If you know how to interpret these variables in relation to 4/3 sensors then the results can be indistinguishable from FF. Consider also - FF is, by the same naive argument, inferior in its bokeh rendering to Medium Format. However, we all (should) know that good bokeh is possible with FF, despite the 'disadvantages' of FFs relatively small sensor size. See how silly the ill-informed 'sensor-size' belief is? Good vid - cheers.
Gary, I love your channel. I'm not trying to be rude, but you fundamentally misunderstand bokeh. You're using a small toy to show what cannot be replicated with a human subject. I love MFT cameras, they can do most things any other camera can do and they have amazing strengths over full frame, I think that the over-use of bokeh has made the technique boring and tacky. If you put an even smaller figure you would likely get more bokeh. It has as much to do with the distance of your subject and how much of them you can fit in the frame as it does with aprature. This experiment doesn't help anyone.
@@luzr6613 Well, the principles don't change for any camera, so why do it at all since we already know them? I would have preferred portraits because that's when you want bokeh, the distances will vary greatly. And no, we don't photograph miniatures of iron mans in real life
That was really a wonderful video presentation Gary. Thank you for showing me that one can get decent bokeh while using a micro four thirds lens 😊
9:16 If you compare the shape of lights you'll notice that the 45 and 75s are perfect round. Oly makes the best lenses.
Great video. Really really helpful. Thank you so very much for taking the time to show all the different possibilities.
Great, informative video Gary, thank you. That TT might serve my G9MK II rather well. Have a safe and awesome Christmas and stay snappy, stay happy.
This was an awesome display. That 75mm though, wow. The 50mm was also a great show. I use the 42.5 f1.2 and the 1.7, they are my favorite lenses, would have been cool to see them in this lineup!
Last part to appreciate here is how much every MFT lens and the system itself whooped those phone photos no question.😁
This was a great video!
Perfekt!!
Nice video -- and I'm floored by how much better the quality of the bokeh (roundness of the balls, smoothness of the background rendering) the 75mm f1.8 was over the rest of the field. (The TTArtisans 50mm 1.2 might have matched it in size, but it has a really distinct cats-eye effect on its blobs). This definitely made me consider picking up the 75mm, regardless of the longer required working distance from the subject.
Great video Mr W! 😊
Really useful video! Thank you so much for this comparison. I think I'll buy the 20mm 1.7
Why can't mft do it? Long focal length, open the iris and close the distance to subject while having a far away backround. Sure you don't get ff bokeh but you get separation.
Hello Gary, it would be great to see what happens to these photos if, for example, Luminar AI software's bokeh application is used. Especially with MFT photos
I like using my 7Artisan 35mm F0.95 lens.
I have innumerable 'real-life' (the great outdoors) examples with superb bokeh taken with half a dozen 4/3 and MFT cameras and a wide variety of native glass and vintage lenses. I also have innumerable 'real life' examples shot on a Pentax K-1 using vintage glass. Sensor size has to be acknowledged - in a comparison with everything else the same, bokeh does not present in the same way as with larger format cameras. It is exactly the same phenomena, only reversed, for Macro photography where 4/3 sensors are exceptional. However, the sensor is only a part of the equation, contributing to the result but not determining it. Focal length, distance to subject, aperture setting and distance from subject to background are all critical for DOF and bokeh. If you know how to interpret these variables in relation to 4/3 sensors then the results can be indistinguishable from FF. Consider also - FF is, by the same naive argument, inferior in its bokeh rendering to Medium Format. However, we all (should) know that good bokeh is possible with FF, despite the 'disadvantages' of FFs relatively small sensor size. See how silly the ill-informed 'sensor-size' belief is? Good vid - cheers.
A 50mm on MFT will have to same bokeh as a 50mm on Full frame at the same aperture, just a tighter POV.
What is the point of comparing like this? It will have half the bokeh because we want the same POV
Gary, I love your channel. I'm not trying to be rude, but you fundamentally misunderstand bokeh. You're using a small toy to show what cannot be replicated with a human subject. I love MFT cameras, they can do most things any other camera can do and they have amazing strengths over full frame, I think that the over-use of bokeh has made the technique boring and tacky.
If you put an even smaller figure you would likely get more bokeh. It has as much to do with the distance of your subject and how much of them you can fit in the frame as it does with aprature.
This experiment doesn't help anyone.
He literally explains your point at 11min.
Agree, except he might run out of min focusing distance if he uses a smaller object
Yeah but this is not real life example
Yeah - it actually is real life - this is what real and alive people do. And if you're thinking 'outdoors', the principles don't mysteriously change.
@@luzr6613 Well, the principles don't change for any camera, so why do it at all since we already know them? I would have preferred portraits because that's when you want bokeh, the distances will vary greatly. And no, we don't photograph miniatures of iron mans in real life