The NBA HATES Superteams... So They Changed The Rules
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2023
- Superteams have been a contentious issue for the NBA in recent years, and now the league is taking steps to address the situation head-on.
New superteams, star-studded squads formed by the joining of multiple superstar players, seem to be formed every offseason. Despite the excitement and high expectations, they have also drawn criticism for potentially harming the competitive balance of the league.
This year's NBA Finals actually present a different scenario, with neither team involved considered a superteam (which has been really refreshing) and it appears that the NBA prefers it that way... so they are changing the rules with the new CBA.
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This hurts all the teams that developed their own stars like the Nuggets, Grizzlies, and Thunder. Maybe they should have added a clause where if you drafted and developed your guys 5-15% of their salary shouldn't count towards the cap if their contact exceeds a certain threshold.
I love this idea. You could even pair it with a deal where the player can make 10% more with the team that drafted them and ONLY that team. Cap relief for the team and extra money for the player should incentivize them to stay together.
They could do this for every roster slot, not just stars. The rewards for developing role players accrue, too.
I’d be willing to agree to this rule if players who sign supermax contracts lose the supermax difference if they request a trade.
@@mohamedabdourahman9845 - for sure. The bump can be treated as a non-guaranteed bonus that triggers at the end of the season if they are still on the roster of the team that drafted them.
@@mohamedabdourahman9845 I think that would be great it would help fix the player movement problem we currently have in the NBA.
@@lovaboy57 I do think there needs to be a salary threshold on it, maybe just around 15-20 million so if you're first 6 guys are all drafted by you, you can fill out a 7&8 roster spot.
I can't help but feel like this is only going to destroy the middle class of the NBA. Instead of signing strong role players to 10-20 million dollar contracts, you're basically locked into superstars and minimums with the way the max contracts keep rising. And I really don't think those superstars will be raising their hands to take less money to benefit the team as a whole, it just doesn't work like that. Massive L for the players as a whole.
Have you ever heard of the Lakers and Nets? They've done this more than once in the last 4 years. I don't like it, not due to parity, but because everyone's gonna be on the same playing level, that it'll be worse than having one or 5 superteams.
I was thinking the same, the "All star roleplayers" in the 3 and D, rim protector and three point specialist niches are going to get payed like normal roleplayers because teams will simply not be willing to pay them like what they are, players that produce median value for a team. Also, are you the same guy that posts Trails of Cold Steel fanfics?
That’s exactly what I posted in another video.
So true. Everything about get your bag, but bruh the bag is 500 mil like huh? And it's always more more more. Just like Shaq when he was mad he was getting paid the same as his teammates and tried to keep them down
The salary cap will keep going up. Just because players CAN get the super max doesn’t mean they deserve it.
honestly i have mixed feelings about this because while i get the idea of the new cba, this will likely change how much teams are willing to pay players and it prevents the construction of good non super teams in the process like the bucks or nuggets
How does it present the signing of good players? If you’re not trying to sign 3 max players, you can sign up good but lower tier guys.
Never mind. I thought about it a bit more. Drafting well can still jam you up.
@@MrDreatxLike the Celtics. We’re all saying trade someone. Yet they cant. And they cant also keep him anymore bs they have Tatum. Heat gsw kings bucks so many teams are gonna get screwed for this.
Superteams isn’t the problem, the problem is that most teams don’t know how to put teams together anymore or develop players anymore. What most fans/league owners want is a face of there franchise.
Also u could say that some of these owners are cheap and don’t want to spend money on talent cuz they gonna make money regardless of how they finish the season.
@@GOODMuzikBoi that is true
The NBA needs to address the glaring issue with smaller market teams.
The only real way to build contenders for smaller markets is tanking in the draft, getting a Jokic in the 2nd round is a 1 in a million chance.
Silver is against tanking, so how do the smaller market teams compete with teams that have the market or geographic location advantage?
It seems to be either get super lucky or make it easier to retain homegrown talent or young talent you traded for and have bird rights on while going into the tax and not being penalized for it.
GS takes trash and turns into treasure and is now is gonna penalized because they saw potential that other teams didn’t. This CBA won’t last long
@@iamtheonlywilly dude without curry their lottery pick the gsw wouldn't be anything they'd be irrelevant as a franchise every team needs to get lucky once they also just turned treasure into trash last year on the form of wiseman even the warriors make mistakes
This does address the small market issue. By having a de facto hard cap it limits what big markets can actually spend.
There is nothing you can do to make a 20-or 30-something millionaire wants to live in Oklahoma City or Detroit instead of Miami or LA. Nothing. But you can make it so it's harder for them to buy championship teams. And they did. You can make it financially unattractive to leave the small market team. And they did.
Would I like to see a homegrown discount? Yes. But the other owners are still pissed GS got Durant because Michelle Roberts was incompetent. Fair play to them. The OKC's and Orlando's and Detroit's have successfully cut off their own noses to spite their face.
But you have *always* needed to get super lucky. Except the Lakers. They just permanently have fairy dust sprinkled on them, but everyone else has to get lucky.
As far as tanking, I mean, Jokic 41, Giannis 15, Kobe 13, Kawhi 15, Luka 3, Steph 7, Dirk 9. Plus it *is* a lottery. You just never know when you are going to get lucky. And even if you get the first pick you might get Tim Duncan or Hakeem, you might get Ben Simmons or Andrea Bargnani. You might crap the bed so bad in building around the guy it's untenable for him to trust you any further. And, yeah, sometimes he decides he likes warm weather and pretty girls in bikinis on the beach and partying until 4am and waking up to the ocean. It's all just luck. It's all one in a million.
@@michaelahurtexactly plus if the sad part about the business is some players can afford to take a paycut and go to a city like Miami and LA as they make money off endorsements and investing. Young players unfortunately are just that young. If you are a 20yr old would you rather be rich in Milwaukee or in Miami, be rich in Memphis or LA etc. small market teams will never be amazing destinations people want to go to. They’re only chance is if they hit on draft picks and build championship rosters before the rookie contract is up. As once it’s up most players are gonna want out to go to a big market or a competitive team. They way we fans value championships in deciding all-time greats is the reason players go to competitive rosters to win rings over building one.
@@CristianMartinez-yc6pr "As once it's up most players are gonna want to go to a big market or a competitive team"
Which only happens if the team isn't winning and/or the player doesn't trust management. Cause let's be honest, the first 7 years are locked in. You have 7 years to build a roster. And once a guy gets to 10 years and he's a grown up and has a family, he doesn't really want to leave. (Except LeBron, I guess, cause he loves his hometown so much he left twice.)
I do like when players stay, but I think we blow it out of proportion. Guys have always moved on to some degree. You spot on in calling out the fans and media. We are the ones that made it like this by being so offended that a player would simply want to play 20 years somewhere and actually mean it when he talked about how much he loves playing there.
(And LeBron. I mean he did kind of ruin everything by taking a short cut. He probably would have won in Cleveland at some point. Though probably not 4.)
The thing that actually IS a problem is players refusing to honor their contracts (AD, Harden, Simmons) and checking out until they get traded. That is bad for the league.
In most situations, though, there's no issue. Especially if a guy is a FA. Look is it weird when KD and Kawhi left championship teams? 100%. But I got it. Do I like LeBron being a human parasite and sucking every resource out of a franchise then leaving a dead carcass? No. But consenting adults, right? And Cleveland and Miami are doing just fine.
This will allow us to see who the actually greats are when the deck isn’t stacked. I personally think Gianns and Jokic will dominate the decade back and forth.
celtics?? they are better than the bucks
@@bobsinclair8046 Celtics choked multiple times lmfao stfu
All dynasties throughout time have had the deck stacked by the way. From lakers to Celtics to bulls to spurs and onward
@@bobsinclair8046 they aren’t tho
I guess now that Denver won they need to blow the team and trade everyone because they are now a super team. Smh
Excellent video. The only thing I don't understand is how people keep bringing up that the warriors acquired their talent from other teams but except for The years with KD the stars were drafted by the team
Exactly.
yup he put the 2015-16 warriors and that’s pre kd. that squad was assembled through drafts with the exception of role players.
Love the point that stability and parity are both competing issues.
The Warriors overwhelmingly won the stability game by drafting, developing, keeping and building around their core players. It's incredibly unfair for them to just let any of these players go all in the name of forced parity, but it's also unfair for the players who deserve their bag to be shortchanged for the same reason. It goes against the core idea of building one's success rather than simply acquiring it, and sustaining it through player loyalty, culture and good management.
It almost feels like teams should be incentivized to limit the growth and potential of some players just to keep them on the team and on friendlier contracts. Why bother making your promising rookie a borderline all-star within 3 years if it's gonna screw up your potential salary cap by having them demand a max extension? I wonder where Austin Reaves is gonna get his bag.....
I was thinking Boston, Denver and the Grizzlies had the best chances for a similar type of success as the Warriors, but the new CBA would definitely impact that. And it sucks because these teams are some of the most exciting to watch in the league with both their team basketball and individual talent, and they are *consistent* with their performances.
This is bs tbh. Cause Nuggets are gonna get hurt by this as well. And Heat and Kings and GSW. Any team that drafts great will be hurt. Yea you minimize super teams but you also make it super hard for players who are drafted and then turn out to be stars. You make it hard for that same team to be able to keep them.
agree and like nuggets and warriors not all their picks were picked in the top 5 they were able to develope their late picks now will be punished for it
The unfortunate reality tho is that parity has historically been bad for ratings across all sports. EVen in the nfl which is usualy championed for having parity the highest ratings typically came during dynasty years. Superteams create more intruige and polarization. Ppl either jump on the bandwagon and watch to see how good the team does or watches to see them fall flat on their face. In the end I dont think parity will stay bc players will bend the rules and find ways around it no matter how difficult it is whether that be taking discounts etc. But we'll see how it goes.
100% agree. I really don't know why the players agreed to this. It's going to wipe out the middle class and it doesn't help total revenues.
To me this is bringing back the early 2000's when basically the best guy on every team got a max deal. It sucked. You'd have like, Juwan Howard, as your max guy and you'd just suck for 5 years. At least then you could just trade all your bad contracts to Isiah in NY. Are they gonna have to bring back the amnesty? It might be worth for that. By far the funnest CBA tool in my lifetime.
But I am very curious to see what happens. I could spend hours just talking about the different ways this could go.
@@michaelahurt Yep. The middle market for players is going to be dead. The players had a good thing going with tons of guys getting access to max contracts and big paydays. This is a huge let down financially for the players. CJ mccollum fell asleep at the wheel
@@pimpnamedslickback7780 The league just inherently has more leverage because they can sustain a lockout easier.
By FAR the most egregious part of the Michelle Roberts era was the players had real leverage cause the owners did NOT want a cap spike 2016. And they completely squandered it. So dumb.
This time, the owners kind of didn't care. Whatever position the players took on that, the 19 rule, whatever, the league is just like: "ok we want the opposite. And a hard cap. But we'll "compromise" with this fake hard cap instead that we'll call a soft cap and you can have cap smoothing and we'll include all this other stuff as BRI (that we were going to include anyway) as a sweetener. Cool? K. Thanks for the hard cap!"
Except for KD’s Warriors, I have zero problems whatsoever with the teams that won the titles this last decade or so. And the KD situation was a very dumb decision to not smooth the cap rise that year. What the NBA is doing is again trying to protect bad owners from themselves while 1. screwing the entire middle class of players (in this new environment they will all be underpaid, while the stars or fake stars will get theirs) 2. penalising massively teams that are doing it right by developing their own players (they won’t be able to reward these guys with deserving salary increases)
To me these side effects alone are outrageous:
This means OKC won’t be able to keep their home grown talent (again!), Denver couldn’t have been possible, same thing with the Warriors, Memphis would need to trade one of their big 3…
The problem with the NBA these last seasons has NOT been failed experiments by superstars arrogantly thinking and being enabled by a bad and weak culture they can act as players-GMs-coaches. The problems have been mostly due to star players treating the regular season like it doesn’t matter. But that is more a problem for the viewership of these games, because on the competition side of things, NONE of the teams where that behaviour has been on display have won anything. Consistency, stability and competency of management, chemistry, team play, 1 super talented player leading by example, have been rewarded with the ultimate prize.
e.g. I love Kawhi, but I’m glad he hasn’t won anything with the Clippers.
Just like in society, more government and more rules made by a class of people who have different motivations than the participants always lead to bad consequences.
We will see… but these news cap rules look to me like they won’t fix the most egregious issue, which is star players not playing, and actually create new horrible consequences for teams doing it the “right way”.
I find it deeply funny that the NBA first went positionless in the All NBA teams the very season it became crystal clear that the "positionless" small ball concept was abandoned by most and then implemented a super team-busting CBA to achieve parity the VERY YEAR that we finall got parity.
What defines a super team? I think this depends on who you ask. They say GS is a super team? How, when Steph is the only superstar. Just because they won a lot? Maybe they were a super team when KD joined other than that, in my opinion, they aren’t a super team. The nba just sick of GS winning.
Steph, Klay, Dray are all Hall of Fame players. We did somewhat earn "superteam" when we traded for KD. That was certainly not organic. But I dunno... I think a lot of NBA fans didn't mind watching the greatest NBA team of all time.
They need to do this but also market small market teams and stars like Jokic Giannis sga etc much better so that not only hardcore but casual fans know these stars and those cities also become free agency destinations as well as the big markets but kudos to the nba for bringing back parity and competition in the nba
🤡🤡🤡the 90s only had 4 teams win the 80s had 4 teams win. 5 teams won a title in the 00s the nba never had parity
Jokic doesn't even like ball like that, his energy on interviews and interest in the game and league isn't all that high, he is like Tim Duncan but at least Tim showed the game interest... Jokic won a title and didn't even celebrate, it's funny for Nuggets fans but for fans of the game it's not funny, and more toward disrespectful depending on how sensitive the fan groups are... Giannis sure his shown the game love back and it's why they Markert him so much even though they hate he is foreign and locally developed in junior leagues
Adam silver just made it worse for teams like the hornets, thunder, cleavland, Indiana, etcetera. The only thing that's gonna happen is if players are smart they would take massive pay cuts. But then he'll be investigating every team in the nba for tampering which would make him look bad
I think Silver's betting on a certain level of player expecting less money to keep the team together, the status quo of what a player should expect shifting. Not gonna happen imo.
6:30 I agree completely. I think the CBA was done to "punish" the warriors but it's going to hurt alot of teams that develop their own talent
Yuup. Not fair and messed up. I think the NBA is sick of GS and will punish everyone for it.
The warriors developed their players
Kevin Durant, Andrew Wiggins, and more are examples of why people, including me, dont like the warriors
@@Enlightened_SpursFan I understand KD, that was a bitch move by him. Why Wiggins though? Not like he's a superstar.
@@Enlightened_SpursFanwhy Wiggins he just good starter he no different than guy like Aaron Gordon and kcp.
They should try a Designated Player system. Each team gets one roster slot for a player that is exempt from max salary restrictions and only counts as a flat number against the cap (regardless of how much they are actually paid).
In other words, teams like the Charlotte Hornets could offer a player like Kevin Durant 9 figures to lure him away from his super team in Phoenix. The stars would need to take MONSTER pay cuts to play with other stars.
I think there should be a hard cap, but I feel like players drafted by a team should count less against the cap. I love the way the warriors built their team. Almost all their players were drafted and developed. The only superstar that came to them through free agency was KD. But until the super max deals get under control, teams will have to choose between keeping a superstar or developing young talent. Mid level players will be going to China. They will get squeezed out just like the NFL.
It should also be said that the game of basketball itself is proving that superteams no longer guarantee winning titles anymore. The recent title winners (Warriors, Bucks, Nuggets, Raptors) show that the best teams have one or two stars complemented by elite bench defense, rebounding, and three point shooting.
The new cba contradicts itself you wanna stop super teams and players leaving teams they were drafted by but wanna penalize teams who built a great team off guys they drafted.. what sense does that make, tell teams to stop paying all these ridiculous contracts
agree take warriors for example they didn't trade and/or sign a bunch of big names like the nets, they drafted most of there's draymond, curry, klay and poole and like you said they're going to be penalized for it and it's not they all were a bunch of picks in the top 5
If they really just want to reduce player movement & increase the ability of small market teams to compete, the better idea would have been to make a Substantially higher luxury tax on overages due to trades and free agent signings and have low or no luxury tax when going over due to resigning your existing roster.
Seems to me like the league should focus the luxury taxes and penalties on teams that acquire players through free agency and trades, and charge far less penalties for high salaries of players that are still with teams that drafted them. Also some reduction in penalties the more years that player has played for that team.
Exactly
The Second Apron actually won't hurt a team like the Thunder nearly as much as some might fear. The Thunder and other teams that build primarily through the draft will not be nearly as penalized as those that try to acquire talent through Free Agency, because the Second Apron only affects a team's ability to sign outside talent, not players that the team already has. This new policy also gets rid of the restriction that only two players per team could be signed to a Super-max extension. This would mean that in the scenario that all of the Thunder's core wound up being incredible All-NBA worthy players, OKC would in theory be able to sign all four to Super-max deals if ownership could deal with the massive cost of doing so. If a team is good enough at player development and drafting exceptional talent, then that team can sign all of them to as crazy a deal as they want. The League is also rewarding teams for developing 2nd Round talent by adding another 2-way slot.
NBA Finals Ratings since 1990
MJ Bulls ------------- 25.2 million/game
Warriors/Cavs --- 19.5 million/game
Shaq/Kobe --------- 17.5 million/game
Heatles --------------- 16.8 million/game
Kobe Lakers ------- 15.8 million/game
Warriors ------------- 13.8 million/game
Other ------------------ 12.7 million/game
Sorry, but fans *clearly* LOVE dynasties. Hardcore fans like parity, but we are watching no matter what so we really don't count.
The answer is clearly to put MJ back on the court 😂
Like with all CBA moves designed to protect the owners from themselves this almost certainly will have unintended consequences. Like the shortening of contracts from 7 years resulting in homegrown stars just leaving teams earlier which led to changes to a later CBA where leveling up of max contracts just lead to stars signing those max contracts and being a bargain (rare), not living up to the contract and crushing the teams cap or just asking for a trade anyways. We shall see if this has the intended result and doesn't have unintended consequences.
The NBA loves superteams they bring high viewing. Have since the 70's. It's up to the team what route they go
Horrible, guys like Magic who were great to work with and had people want to play with will get punished
Having a few great guys doesn’t automatically win the title
Nice vid, but can you the same vid for teams that will benefit in the next few years?
As a Grizzlies fan I hate this rule, almost all of our core players were drafted and developed by the team with really only Steven Adams and Marcus Smart being exceptions and neither of them are superstars. This hurts us because now we have to probably give away a Steven Adams, Marcus Smart, Brandon Clarke, Desmond Bane etc to keep Ja and Triple J
Can you make a vid explaining the whole CBA changes
That is essentially what this was, but I didn't want to get too nerdy with the details. Maybe I need an NBA salary cap nerd channel hahaha
When NBA ratings and engagement drop to the ground because people hate see the watered talent in the court the NBA will love Super teams again..
Should honestly just have a hard cap like the NFL
what song is playing in the background at the beginning
When was the last time a "super team" won a championship? 2018?
agree bucks wern't a superteam not even the lakers duo weren't a superteam and warriors last ring they won with players they drafted other then wiggins and a couple others but 3/4 of that team were drafted by them and weren't even top 5 picks
All your concerns were on the forefront of my mind when I first learned about the new CBA.
Ah yes, stopping super teams by making it impossible for small markets (like my OKC Thunder) to draw in names and keep their core
It's so insane that no one decided to make better supermax rules. Like, I dunno:
-Supermax contracts don't have the full amounts counted towards the salary cap, only the normal max amount
-If the supermax player is traded, the team has to pay a fee (not a kicker that the player gets) to the team and the full amount is put on their cap
-A player eligible for a supermax (extension included) cannot be signed and traded for the supermax amount, and will have a "supermax light" tag if they join another team with a supermax (or supermax-eligible) player in free agency.
-You cannot have any more than two of any combination of supermax or "supermax light" players on a team.
Are these rules perfect? No. Does these rules, more than the current rules, make an full-hearted attempt at promoting parity? Unfortunately, yes. Why is it that off the dome people can come up with better rules to achieve the league's goals than the people paid to do it? No f*cking clue.
This is gonna ruin the nba for the players. 1. The players don't this. 2. The every non super-star player is basically going to be on a very low contract so for players on 8-25 mil range will most likely be on near minimum contracts which will ruin every thing for the middle tier players. It also makes 90% of championship teams will be drafted and they will be young players on low contracts therefore making repeating more than double as difficult as before which it was alr really difficult. Also they think tanking is problem now ots gonna be a lot worse when the only think you can do is draft a championship caliber team.
I'm sure this will be great for parity. Unfortunately, dynasties are actually good for business believe it or not.
The nba in the 80s 90s 00s 10s didn’t have parity on average the same 5 teams won in those decades
As in real life, so in the NBA. Huge taxes do nothing but hurt the little guy.
so what's the point for teams who devoloped players they drafted if 2 or 3 of them became all star lvl player the team who drafted them would have to let at least one of them go when thoses said player start their prime ..... and a team who decided to tank for multiple season with lot of space cap could easily get those player with good young prospect .... for example spurs who have a lot of cap space could just get two max contract + wemby and become a superteam while the team who has developed their player end up empty handed
Introduce a hard cap like the NFL, go back to the standard 16-team playoff format (8 seeds, no play-in tournament crap), and make it so every team that misses the playoffs gets the exact same number of ping-pong balls for the draft lottery, to incentivize winning and discourage tanking. Also, I like the idea of players re-signing with the team that drafted them able to sign for 10-15% more money over market value (i.e., whatever is the highest bid from a different team) to stay with the team that drafted them, and that excess amount NOT count against the team that drafted them's salary cap if they do re-sign him.
Have hard salary cap and get rid of MAX contracts. Problem solved.
Damn, Adam Silver might not be so good a commissioner
by that definition of Superteam last year finals dont have a superteam aswell. as both of them was drafted and developed.
NBA: we want talents to win in small market teams
Also NBA: we only want big market teams in the finals
they just need to redefine what bird rights are. If you drafted a star and go to re-sign them you should get a discount towards your salary cap in order to retain that player. Something like 20-30% discount so that free agency is still a viable coarse for some teams/markets. Players should still earn full dollar amount for whatever value they are offered in free agency but teams and cities that draft well like the OKC example shouldn't be punished for their success. I hope I am explaining this correctly because I know it may seem like I am saying exactly what birds rights are already but ultimately the goal of the redefinition of birds rights should be to let teams like OKC retain players that they drafted like Durant, Westbrook, Harden and still be able to pay them their full market value that they could obtain via free agency but not be penalized so harshly for doing so by the salary cap restrictions.
The title of this video is terrible. It should be "in contradiction to economic common sense, NBA owners believe a race to the bottom is better for the long-term profitability of the league than a race to the top."
Players who request a trade within 1 or 2 seasons after signing a new contract should cost the recieiving team an additional 25% against the cap. And players who were drafted by their team should have their salaries count 25% less.
Thatll limit player movement and incentivize players to stay with the team who drafted them. Because not only will can they pay them more, itll count less against the cap
i never liked that, like harden requesting trade from rockets basically right after his extension, i would like to suggest to silver that when a player signs take for excample a 4 year contract the player can't request a trade or be traded by the team until half the contract is fulfilled
Supermax should’ve had a clause that stated “only team owner can initiate trades. If u demand a trade u (said player) will owe the team 60% of the full amount of contract immediately”. Im all for players taking control of their careers, but this damn trade after trade is just getting silly.
The 5 year max length of a contract is hugely detrimental to the league. Teams have zero leverage if after two years their star is unhappy since they have to make a team basically next year or lose most of the stars trade value.
A good example of longer contracts stopping player movement is Kobe when he requested a trade in 07 and didn't get it. They had him locked in for 3 more years so they didn't have to trade him or risk losing him for nothing. The next year they got Pau and they won two titles. The added pressure also leads teams to doing dumb shit like what the Suns are doing, or what the Mavs did when they traded for Kyrie, in a desperate attempt to keep Luka happy only for the team to get worse in the process.
Golden state warriors- Architects of modern super teams ? Do you watch basketball bud lol, every single one of their players was done through the draft except Durant, or through a trade. They are not recruiting players like the Heat, Lakers have. Warriors are one of the few teams that have done it the right way, along with the nuggets.
The warriors will actually be better, if they get rid of Thompson, or Green, they have aged, the shots don't fall, and they have both lost a step defensively. Green has become a team chemistry cancer with his podcasts and punching team mates in the face, he checked out of the game a few years ago.
It's time to move Thompson as he will get the most in return, imho.
I think that a hard cap would actually go a long way toward reducing the formation of super teams. There's a hard cap number that may be exceeded only with either drafter or draft day traded players (such as a LaMelo Ball extension) and minimum contracts. If you are trading for a super star or star level talent, you must trade money for money within 3 to 5% of the value of contracts. Max and Super Max level contracts are not a for an bum who makes an All Star team, but rather are tiers based on the stats the player puts up. A Super Max player (130% of the veteran max) must have a top 5 position in at least counting stat during their previous contract. A Max player (115% of the veteran max) must have a top 15 position in at least one counting stat during their last contract. Otherwise, you're eligible for the veteran max, which would be the average value of the top 5 players not on a max or super max extension plus 8% every year. Only the next 3 drafts worth of picks are available for trading, but we're doing away with thte Stepien rule. However, you are still on the hook for any picks that you have already traded through the 2029 draft. Players may get a Max contract offered in free agency, if they qualify, but they are not eligible for a Super Max that way. A player on a Super Max contract may not be traded for at least 2 years after their Super Max contract is in place. You can either move or get paid, not both.
I have a feeling competing teams are gonna start getting rookie scale contracts for 4 years and then trade them when they are up for extension for new first round picks to allow their stats to have cheap and hungry team mates
Perhaps the supermax rule needs an addition that if u earn and get your supermax deal that if u turn around and ask to be traded that you lose that max bonus when traded and need to earn it again with the new team to get the bonus back.
most of the super teams just don'"t work
Even if it hasn’t been perfect, the NBA handles team and player salaries WAAAAY better than the MLB
I wish they’d quit making all these weird rules. Give it a hard cap, no max on player deals. Teams will be able to settle on the actual value of players instead of 90% of the league being max or MLE guys. And if someone wants to pay lebron or curry 60% of the cap great. Maybe another team decides to go more balanced. It at least gives a chance to build teams differently.
I really wish they changed it so if you have homegrown talent you wont be affected. So while the warriors would still be dominant with their core 3, itll be tough to acquire KD. This will further hurt small market teams or teame trying to organically build their team.
1:16 The Warriors fans spent sooooo many years knowing they weren’t winning anything. It’s amazing how the Warriors went from mediocre team no one cares about to seemingly unbeatable team (KD years) to where it’s unfair to the rest of the league. If they didn’t make the right moves, they might be the Vegas Warriors, along with the Vegas Raiders right now.
The clippers or pelicans should move to Vegas
I feel like when team drafts a player they cant trade him and he cant leave if he does punosh the team the player and the other team. You cam only those you got through trades. Draft players especially top ten cant leave the team. Fans will be happy to see there best drafted players can never leave which will build a huge bond with the team the city and fans. The best players should get paid the money their owed as well, which will them stay as well. They also have to produce at least 25 points 5 assists 5 rebounds minimum every game played to get the big checks, if they dont achieve this 25 percent of their check will go to the childrens wish foundation.
The best solution i can think of is if you draft a player and resign him it won't hurt the cap as much for example if tatum and brown are making 30 million each then it would affect the cap by only 50 million instead of 60 which means you may pay less luxury tax when you have starts that you drafted
people use the term superteam really loosely now. ive seen people call the 2016 cavs a super team. in the entire "super team" era only golden state won a ring under the model. and that team was already assembled prior. thus CBA is gonna be harmful long term to the league. teams wont be able to retain players theyd normally keep to build up their team and long term prospects.
One rule change that can fix the super team problem is that teams who have 2+ players who made at least one all-star team in the last 3 years can not sign or trade for another player who has. It not only helps limit super team building but it also means that teams don’t have to let go of star players they drafted as it only applies to adding a star on the team.
I feel like there should be an exception to the salary cap for teams that draft real talent and want to retain them
How about if you sign the Supermax you lose the ability to request a trade or to have a no trade clause
Super max deals are good for teams. It just takes a smart gm/owner to understand just bc some1 qualifies for one doesnt mean they are good enough for it
NBA wanting to restrict player movement is hilarious
I would make it so that only 90% of a players salary counts against the cap if the team drafted that player. Then a 1% decrease each year that any player is on a team. So potentially if a guy plays 20 years for the team that drafted him then only 70% of his salary counts against the cap. Players still get paid and teams can still spend if they do it intelligently.
For me this new CBA targeting “loyalty” and “players movement” is kinda suck as loyalty comes from within the players it self like dame curry and Giannis loyal when the team down but the excitement came from the players movements “KD join with kyrie and harden” “russel AD lebron” it’s more exciting to predict if they succeed or failed and now this more Target advantage for small teams than “better teams”
what happened with the nets getting they're trio, i get trying to stop that, but warriors 3/4 of their players were drafted by them, now being punished for drafting top players that weren't even top 5 picks
Supertimes are actually a nonissue in NBA.
GSW was built through the draft, Cavs and Raptors were built through the draft apart from Lebron and Lenard, Lakers only won one ring in a bubble.
Teams shouldn’t be hurt if they’ve raised their own talent. If a team became a super team with 3 all stars all drafted from their team they shouldn’t be penalized at all so it lets teams actually focus more on building and developing talent. Teams like the Thunder shouldn’t be hurt for having so much talent even though everyone wants to get paid
Let's reward player-team loyalty. Reduce the "salary-cap" hit by three percent every year the player is with the same club.
Let's say Curry and Klay stay with the Warriors for 20 years. They are older, less productive and more injury prone, but everyone still wants then to play for the same team --- and the players still want to get paid. Pay them their $50 Million salaries: But the cap hit is reduced 60%. (This is probably as long as it will go.)
A more frequent situation is when a player is re-signed after 5 years. Going back to the Golden State Example, this would allow Golden State to "pay" more money to someone like Kevon Looney. And while rookies get no discount, there contracts are already so low it doesn't really matter.
Keep in mind, when a player is rewarded with a long contract, the cap hit declines a little bit every year. So instead of the contract getting worse after a couple of years, the contracts will age like fine wine!!!! Example. A six year player signs a four year deal. Thus, in year 7, the hit on the salary cap is reduced 21%. By year 10, the hit on the salary cap is reduced 30%
Teams can still trade, but they will always want to have a "core" group of players who stay with the team. And players who stay with the same team can probably expect fair compensation becuase the cap hit discount is a valuable asset for the club. Also, if a player is traded in his second year, the discount begins th second year he plays for his new time. If he stays for 10 years, he is part of htat teams continuity.
You could crunch some numbers and determine that the discount should be cacluated differently --- like 2 % per year. But that kind of analysis is beyond my pay grade.
I feel that this deal is to prevent load management. The less enormous/ bad contracts there are the less leverage players have and they are more likely to get less money unless they go to shit teams
Phoenix now has Book, Kd and Beal 😂😂😂
Great video!!!
It's really unfair for the warriors because they drafted almost all their players and developed them... except KD
Players could take pay cuts to get around it.
If that's what happens then so be it. Players love to talk about how championships are all that matters. Well let's see if that's the case when your taking a 20 to 30 million dollar a year paycut
This actually happens in GSW 2017 even draymond say it that he got cut pay to get KD to max contracts so it can happen again with this and with curry personality he might cut his annual salary to keep dray klay poole and wiggin and still have cap space to new center
This era is like 70s: no superteams and there is a better league than NBA, which is in this case, Euroleague
I think they way to solve this you can’t be traded for two years if you sign above the regular max threshold
Could you not amend the cba so that if you give a supermax contract to someone you've drafted it creates a smaller hit to your finances?
In my opinion I don’t think the league hate super teams. They just making changes because they are constantly getting criticized for it. The smaller market teams owners and their fan bases are the ones who hate it. They hate that the players are the one’s basically creating the super teams. They didn’t have a problem with Boston creating the Big 3 but had problems with Miami creating their Big 3.
I think the limiting on trading first is dumb
Players salaries are absolutely ridiculous anyway.
Soccer also needs this. In Europe, oil supported money teams are destroying the competitions 😭
I disagree, look at PSG, the richest team ever, with a collection of superstars, and what have they won besides the french championship? Nothing. The best football teams have a system, like Madrid in the 2010s, and good players yes, but it's not enough.
Competition is not the same as parity. From the sport point of view, there's no better competition than the best players against the best players. Why should you prevent that, and add young or bad players to a team just to make it fair?
Europe has a tiered competition system that the NBA should want. To the fans of a 2nd division team, the competition to get the the top is equaly as thrilling as the championsleague title. It's okay to compete even if you are not in the top competition, be the best at your level. It's also better for player developpment. The NBA should develpp the G league, with real competiton, coaches, fans as more than a showcase for the draft.
Maybe they could make the salaries of players you draft tax exempt
overall appreciate the channel and thought this video was good, but dubbing the Warriors the architect of the super team movement is a gross mischaracterization. Yes, they got KD. But the rest of the team was developed in house. Even Wiggins was just lying there on the curb with a "For Free" sign.
Their salary cap is a result of rewarding their players for winning. At 2:40, what are we doing ascribing big bad FA moves when trying to highlight signing donte divicenzo for part of a TPMLE in the same line as James Harden at 2:40? The Dubs are more like the Nuggets as described at the end of the video than a superteam.
Again, fan of this channel.
They need to make it to where you can pay players you drafted that never moved teams whatever they want that you'll give them but at the expense of being able to sign free agents, not a hardcap to where you can't keep your loyal players, free agency should be about the 4th and 5th options and the bench, not Harden and Kyrie
A billion dollar monopoly corporation wants competition. The irony
% of max contract is too high, it makes the other 85% of the players salary being compressed.
hard cap is definitely needed, maybe 10m over the super tax apron.
you do not want less player movement, it keep fan base engage, offseason and trade deadline is the highlight of nba season.
supermax contract should be inelligible to trade for at least 2 yrs.
I'm drafting college seniors that can play now. Once they get good you can't afford to keep them anyway so I'd keep drafting juniors and seniors that are proven. Why pay a 19 year old a max deal after one good year after riding the bench for 2 years?
Why dont they just not count the extra money for the super max against the cap?
Marcus Smart to Memphis is a good trade for the Grizzlies. He'll improve their backcourt and keep Ja out of trouble.
This CBA is going to be a disaster. When rule changes going after dynasties like the Warriors ends up affecting play-in teams like the Timberwolves too, it goes to far.
Let's be honest- the NBA hates super team in SMALL MARKETS only. It's no coincidence that they implemented these harsher restrictions only after teams like GS and both LA teams are on the closing chapter of their super team runs. Now they want to punish teams like the Nuggets, Wolves, and Kings for building teams through the draft and FA. It's a joke. If the league REALLY CARED about parity, they'd just use a goddamn hard cap like the NFL and call it a day. But we all know the league doesn't want it that way.
The warriors were drafted
@@Newportnews98 They also added KD and got 2 more rings.
NBA is basically owned by Disney (abc, ESPN). It's not just their movies dying.
The Warriors are debatably a super team because apart from the KD years, they drafted all their All Stars.
and as we speak Suns are closing in on adding Beal...thats how scared of new rules teams are...
Forced parity will make the NBA a lesser product. The NBA knows this very well. How were those Finals ratings this year?