Professional Songwriter Reveals Secrets To Killer Choruses - RecordingRevolution.com

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  • @cronos5335
    @cronos5335 6 лет назад +27

    I would absolutely love more videos about song writing. I get writers block and lose interest a lot lately and it's killin me.

  • @PhilosopherFool
    @PhilosopherFool 6 лет назад +35

    Videos with these titles are usually just content fluff pieces with general common sense-type advice, but this was insightful, the explanations on point... Great video guys. Thank you!

    • @recordingrevolution
      @recordingrevolution  6 лет назад +4

      Martin is the real deal!

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      @houstonvihaan7972 3 года назад

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  • @freakyfred543
    @freakyfred543 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for this video. I am a veteran of the military and I am getting started in my songwriting career late in life. I am looking forward to your future videos.

  • @JackTheRabbitMusic
    @JackTheRabbitMusic 4 года назад +6

    I just watched my first video with Martin, and I just wanna give this dude a hug. I have been writing songs since age 5, and still do it. It is a fantastic journey.🐰❤️🎸🎶🤝✌️

    • @hkage5211
      @hkage5211 2 года назад

      That great man.
      When I was 5 year old I didn't even know how to wipe my nose

  • @rubendaviso
    @rubendaviso 6 лет назад +4

    As a musician and songwriter myself, I really appreciate this! The content in this video is pretty much gold in the music industry now a days. Thanks so much, Graham!

  • @jetblackkinks
    @jetblackkinks 3 месяца назад

    Absolutely would love more! Fun fact, if I had to pick only one topic to watch for the rest of my life it would be songwriting actually lol, so you can't have enough videos about it in my opinion ☺ This was so great, thank you and that gentleman for your service to humanity!!

  • @christinalaurice6464
    @christinalaurice6464 2 года назад

    I’m deaf myself and just got out of a 20 years of bad relationship. I’m starting to open up more and found out that I truly LOVE music and dancing. I need tutoring. TY

  • @ShallieDragon
    @ShallieDragon 6 лет назад +10

    Songwriting is definitely an area I kind of struggle with. So, I'm definitely interested in seeing more videos on it.

  • @rickyguitarman3839
    @rickyguitarman3839 6 лет назад +21

    great video however, he could also mention that _melody_ is the MOST important key when writing a song, you can add some lyrics on the chorus like _oohhhlalalalababababluhh_ with the right melody/scale behind that shit, you have yourself a HIT!!

  • @MustafaBaabad
    @MustafaBaabad 3 года назад +2

    I believe God is happy to see us, human sharing knowledges to improve all of us. Sharing like what you just did on this video is the goal of any religion to improve humanity. God bless you. Thank you!
    Cheers from Indonesia.

  • @1stHandTV
    @1stHandTV 6 лет назад +4

    I write rap music and this video was more helpful than I expected 👍🏾

  • @Akezevibez
    @Akezevibez 2 года назад +4

    I love this guys. Those were amazing tips… and I love how he carefully puts his words together and the examples he gave. It’s just perfect. He’s obviously a brilliant songwriter and a great teacher too. 💯❤️🙏🏾🎶

  • @Appleloucious
    @Appleloucious Год назад

    One Love!
    Always forward, never ever backward!!
    ☀☀☀
    💚💛❤
    🙏🏿🙏🙏🏼

  • @mubafaw
    @mubafaw 2 года назад +2

    Jheez! Not even a song writer, but this hits hard. This is is so powerful. Mind blowing ! 😊👍

  • @wowerman
    @wowerman Год назад

    This is an eye opener. One phrase and you are already a winner .PDF file no more available sadly.

  • @treversgoh
    @treversgoh 6 лет назад +64

    8.00 "Give me some more milk" hahhaa XD

    • @HarryRotter
      @HarryRotter 6 лет назад +4

      If a baby said that in a deep voice like that then I'd definitely take notice!

    • @dman84
      @dman84 6 лет назад +2

      I laughed out Loud at this part! 😂

    • @sabrinalecrivainmediaTM
      @sabrinalecrivainmediaTM 2 года назад

      These 2020 babies will say that. 😆

  • @MichaelSheaAudio
    @MichaelSheaAudio 6 лет назад +110

    I think it's a nice thought to have this information, but to live by it is a terrible idea. If you really want to write standard pop songs than this is great advice, but really I would encourage you to break all of these rules as often as you can. Keep the listener on their toes. The climax isn't always in the chorus. There's a song I really like that has a good chorus but the actual climax is the guitar solo in the last like 20 seconds of the song. Don't be afraid to put some real thought into a chorus. It doesn't have to be 1 or 2 lines repeated. Even using different lyrics in your choruses. Modern pop songs are all very similar and this is the kind of mindset that contributes to that. Just because it's popular, doesn't mean it's good. Who am I to talk though? I can't even get my friends to download my music for free. :P

    • @FarisMonshi
      @FarisMonshi 6 лет назад +12

      LADDERLAD Music Agreed. This is a decent roadmap, and some good concepts to keep in mind. But yeah, absolutely, we can and should break these rules any time it feels right to you as the artist. I’m personally a huge fan of subtle changes in the lyrics of choruses, especially when they enhance the progression and story arc of the song.

    • @GraemeWoller
      @GraemeWoller 6 лет назад +22

      At least if you know "the rules" you can choose to step away from them. :)

    • @MichaelSheaAudio
      @MichaelSheaAudio 6 лет назад +3

      It's strange because I never really knew the rules. I wasn't taught how to write a song, I just did it. I started with rock when I didn't know how to play my guitar properly yet. Then joined a metalcore band and started writing that style which has absolutely no rules so I think that's where I got it from. Just stringing together random parts in hopes that it will sound good. Then a number of years later, a friend asked me if I wanted to start a band, and I knew he was into classic rock. So really by that point I had never written a good rock song but I tackled it anyway and things went well. Now just from experience I know what I like to write and I know that I can delay a chorus until 2 minutes into a song, skip the second verse, blur the lines between Punk and Metal, etc. It's just something that comes with time.

    • @FarisMonshi
      @FarisMonshi 6 лет назад +7

      LADDERLAD Music good on ya, man. I’m not at all disparaging the merits of those who go about songwriting in a more tried and true fashion (there is a LOT of merit to it, and much to be learned from), but I definitely want to emphasize with you that in some ways it is beneficial to come at this art from a place of greater freedom, and less rigidity and boundaries.
      I learned music from RUclips tutorials about how to play exactly the songs I was interested in playing. I didn’t care much about proper technique, or what equipment is best. Back then, I just relied on my ears. I wish I would depend on them more nowadays like I did back then. I urge anybody watching this video and reading these comments to explore music creation as the unique artist they are, and trust yourself more than you might feel comfortable with.
      If you’re the kind of musician who spends enough time to read these kinds of comments, you owe it to yourself to have faith in your inspirations, your curiosities, and most importantly YOURSELF, to be willing to break from tradition anywhere you see fit. Whatever comes natural to YOU as the artist, will most assuredly resonate with someone else on this planet. Honest self-expression is rare, and difficult, but we all have it in us.

    • @MichaelSheaAudio
      @MichaelSheaAudio 6 лет назад +1

      Well said!

  • @averygoth6675
    @averygoth6675 6 лет назад +1

    I’m going to write a song based on this. This is like the opposite of cliché! The tips are so unique!

  • @theyansproject
    @theyansproject 6 лет назад +2

    Hi, would Chorus like below be sufficient to make a statement?
    Verse 1
    Falling
    We know we are falling
    But neither is sorry
    It’s always so sad
    It came without warning
    This gold gloomy morning
    We’ve finished the story
    There’s nothing to add

    And through the clouds slowly

    Chorus:
    Drip-drip-drop
    Falling down from the skies
    Washing off all the lies
    Comes final rain
    No matter how hard we’ve tried
    With nothing else left to hide
    Leaving us both behind
    It came to the end


    Verse 2
    Maybe
    We’ll meet again maybe
    Both happy and carefree
    It happens sometimes…
    …But rain keeps on pouring
    And there is no turning
    When light is not burning
    And souls do not rhyme

  • @lilybanda4605
    @lilybanda4605 Год назад

    I have learnt so much from this
    I believe this will improve my songwriting.Thank you so much and God bless you 🙏

  • @GuyTallo
    @GuyTallo 6 лет назад +1

    Even for a non-songwriter this is gold. Thanks!

  • @hedworm
    @hedworm Год назад

    Really excellent explaination for using a series of tools that will help us creative volcanoes focus things a bit. Thanks 🙏

  • @thebreakfastmenu
    @thebreakfastmenu 6 лет назад +6

    "Simple music for simple people."
    You have to ask yourself if you really WANT a chorus like this.

  • @mayawhite9743
    @mayawhite9743 6 лет назад +6

    Love this and would love to see more content on songwriting!

  • @IainFrame
    @IainFrame Год назад

    Good video. Absolutely right, got to trust the process. It works for a reason.

  • @MM-fi6fd
    @MM-fi6fd Год назад

    Great video! The link to that website and 7 step planner is directing to a webhosting site though.. Cheers and thank you!

  • @DavidRosario69
    @DavidRosario69 6 лет назад +1

    Songs often also have a "bridge"; where would you place the bridge in relation to the chorus? Would it be the peak of the mountain or something else? How about a chorus on a modulated key?

  • @TheC0G
    @TheC0G 3 года назад +1

    Martin Sutton is a legend! Just coming down from the high after doing the SongWritingAcademy 555 Challenge, one of the most profound weeks of my life!

  • @dman84
    @dman84 6 лет назад +1

    This was great! I really appreciate the introduction to Mr. Sutton, thank you!

  • @joseferro1432
    @joseferro1432 3 года назад +1

    I love this video! Excellent! Unfortunately, the link for the 7 step method PDF doesn't work. Where can I get this?

  • @UNREDACTEDTRUTH
    @UNREDACTEDTRUTH 2 года назад

    love this! just wrote a song today & i naturally used a few of these tips!

  • @benaaronmusic
    @benaaronmusic 6 лет назад +2

    This is a great crash course in choruses.

  • @viktorpolasek6123
    @viktorpolasek6123 6 лет назад

    Awesome Graham! Thanks for focusing a bit more to songwriting videos. Your main area is somewhere else but as you say - these are the basics...

  • @arujunior3410
    @arujunior3410 6 лет назад

    Very nice tip Graham. I subscribed to your RUclips channel because of mixing. Now you've given me a new road to look at. THANKS VERY MUCH

  • @CognitionHardTrance
    @CognitionHardTrance 6 лет назад +1

    This video is really helpful. I noted down everything he said and then found out there's a free guide from him too! Excellent content Graham and YES please talk more about song writing! You ROCK!

  • @johnpucilla7157
    @johnpucilla7157 4 года назад

    Excellent advice. Thank you for sharing your expertise. The key words as stated., " Don't complicate things. "
    Regards,
    songwriter
    John Pucilla

  • @jammybilly
    @jammybilly 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks Graham. This is great. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a hand in persuading or tipping Martin over the edge to start a RUclips Channel. Thanks for helping us make connections too (Ill Factor, Jordan Valeriote and now Martin). And yes it would be great to learn more about songwriting. Subscribed to Martin's channel and downloaded the PDF. Thanks.

  • @jphi1000
    @jphi1000 6 лет назад

    I'm having issues with songwriting lately. When I get to my computer I'll be downloading that 7 step PDF. I've heard some songs that have been engineered great that do nothing for me, and I've heard songs where the audio quality isn't the best but I love the song. Keep up the videos

  • @TowersBusinessSolutions-zv8ps
    @TowersBusinessSolutions-zv8ps Год назад

    This is really amazing
    Thanks for teaching thia amazing topic

  • @samizzy
    @samizzy 6 лет назад

    Really excited for this new channel by Martin and really great vid graham !!

  • @beantownmusic3532
    @beantownmusic3532 6 лет назад +1

    would love to see more songwriting workflows , this will be very helpful to everyone on getting ideas to create

  • @luisandres7890
    @luisandres7890 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for giving this video! It's really helpful!

  • @jaybliss0005
    @jaybliss0005 Год назад

    Thanks so much for this tips. I did searched for the 7steps song planner on pdf but didn't get that showed up

  • @stanblue8055
    @stanblue8055 3 года назад +2

    Been writing for over 25 years. Can I send you some of my songs to see if it's worth it?

  • @conniearnold1053
    @conniearnold1053 3 года назад

    This was simply beautiful you can see and feel the excitement in you both. There is no question why he is where he is because he loves what he does!! By the way this is my first time on here!!!!! Subscribed☺

  • @EvanMasonMusic
    @EvanMasonMusic 6 лет назад

    Great Tips and Sound Advice. Simultaneously, there is and isn't a formula.

  • @kokkkztse
    @kokkkztse 6 лет назад

    Yes i want to know more about it! Thanks you Graham Teacher

  • @alexseemusic
    @alexseemusic 4 года назад

    Martin is awesome!! Thanks Martin and Graham for this video.

  • @user-ct8pd1pw2n
    @user-ct8pd1pw2n 6 лет назад +4

    Love this type of video, more on songwriting please :)

  • @tdrake59
    @tdrake59 4 года назад

    I can't believe how many hit songwriters are criticizing this video.
    On a serious note. I cannot seem to load the songwritingacademy.com, it pings, but nothing loads.

  • @mattpetello
    @mattpetello 5 лет назад

    I learned a ton from this video. I can already sense it in some songs that I know and love. Thank you.

  • @TitiJackys
    @TitiJackys 6 лет назад

    Thank you so much for what you give to us on every video. (and yeah we want more of these kind of videos !!!)

  • @fabricator.cap.hill.seattle
    @fabricator.cap.hill.seattle 7 месяцев назад

    Great video, no songwriter is too big for these tips.

  • @TrueGritProductions
    @TrueGritProductions 5 лет назад

    You are both great guys, God bless you

  • @nstewart111
    @nstewart111 6 лет назад

    Always enjoy this channel. Most helpful

  • @skiptrace1888
    @skiptrace1888 6 лет назад

    Lovely man with a giving heart. Excellent content & advice! Thanks for promoting Song Writing Academy! :-)))

  • @Peterhearnemusic
    @Peterhearnemusic 3 года назад

    Great video very helpful I would love a copy of the planner but the link appears to be locked

  • @ashermohr3482
    @ashermohr3482 6 лет назад +1

    This is really interesting, the thing about melodic contour, and having choruses as being higher than the verses, I think this advice is more how to keep in with most other classic pop songs - if anybody has heard of the recent hit 'girls like you' by maroon 5, their chorus is way lower than the verse and pre-choruses. What you can use that isn't mentioned here (although it's great) is rhythmic contour. So taking this back to 'girls like you', the chorus hear mostly falls on beats 1, fairly consistently. Ed Sheeran uses this a lot in his hits, take 'Galway Girl' or 'Lego House'.

  • @elvinlewis4233
    @elvinlewis4233 6 лет назад +1

    Very informative. I think one still has to be careful to stay original, but this is definitely a huge help.

  • @IAMBAMAROSE
    @IAMBAMAROSE Год назад

    A baby don’t say “ Give Me Some More Milk “ 😂😂😂 I busted out laughing

  • @Handler870
    @Handler870 6 лет назад

    Brilliant! Thank you guys for bringing this content. 👍👍

  • @Moi-io7yi
    @Moi-io7yi 5 лет назад

    Thank you so much for sharing this video. I'd been questioning myself about the use of questions or direct action in some of my lyrics of late and this video resonated. I have so much to learn while loving the process. So thank you from my Muse & I here in the tropics on a cool n breezy night 😊🎶

  • @anointedminstreltv8881
    @anointedminstreltv8881 Год назад

    Please I want the 7 step song planner from the song writing academy.

  • @davidbrucemusicvideo
    @davidbrucemusicvideo 6 лет назад +1

    Jesus, this guy is amazing! Not only is he giving away amazing info, he’s giving his 7 step method info out FOR FREE??? Wha?!
    And this guy’s tips were freaking amazing! I have never thought of songwriting that way, and I have been writing good songs for quite a few years now. I’m joining that channel, and grabbing that PDF! Thank you for posting this video here!

  • @anthonycrothers_Photography
    @anthonycrothers_Photography 3 года назад

    Hi there, only just come across this excellent video. I would love the 7 step PDF, but the link is no longer working it would seem. 🤷‍♂️

  • @rayofsunshine5539
    @rayofsunshine5539 4 года назад +1

    Is Martin Sutton still running the Songwriting academy ? his channel has had no new vids for the past year.

    • @jaunbonaysmith
      @jaunbonaysmith 3 года назад

      They currently have a 555 Songwriting Course...starts on jan 4th-8 u can check it out on their (website) cuz' they have a Holiday deal...

  • @WheelieMix
    @WheelieMix 6 лет назад +1

    Video start from a good idea but the advices here can be easily broken :
    - Verse low / Chorus high : Nope : The Pixies - Where Is My Mind. It' not the fact that it is low or high that makes a chorus stand out, it's the contrast. Something more modern : Taylor Swift - Look What You Make Me Do. The Chorus stand out because it has a huge contrast with the verse. And it's way lower. But it catch listener attention.
    - The Verse low / Pre chorus climbing / Chorus high is soooooo overused nowadays that it can sounds generic and boring.
    - Use interrogation in a chorus - call to action - a statement. Okay this is like maybe 90% of the entire language expression... So use almost whatever you want in chorus...
    Writing hits songs is being innovative by still using stuff that are common enough to not loose the listener into confusion. But it's all about making new with old and being really clever about words and vocal placement. IMO.

  • @DeanBenn
    @DeanBenn 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you Graham. Another great one.

  • @TheErow44
    @TheErow44 6 лет назад +5

    You seem like a genuine guy who is passionate about what you do, I will definitely check out your content. Graham, YES!! Definitely more song writing content, Thank You!!!

    • @FarisMonshi
      @FarisMonshi 6 лет назад +2

      TheErow44 hey man, if you’re new to Graham’s stuff, let me just say welcome, and that you’re about to dive into some of the most legit audio related content out there 👍🏼

  • @johnford5769
    @johnford5769 2 года назад

    This is Amazing information. Thank you

  • @papa_da_engineer
    @papa_da_engineer 6 лет назад +3

    Great video as usual Graham🙏🙌 and I just subscribed to that channel sounds awesome to me 🎶

  • @lindaandanthonysjewelry6800
    @lindaandanthonysjewelry6800 6 лет назад

    Yes I just picked up some very helpful songwriting skill.

  • @good4sound
    @good4sound 6 лет назад +1

    Has anyone downloaded the Planner pdf and then tried to join the academy? I keep getting directed to a page that says, "The Exclusive Offer has Ended." Something isn't right. Graham just sent out the email about this yesterday. I can't find the Academy website to join. There was a 30 day free trial and then $19 a month ($180 a year if paid in advance). I can't get back to that page to start my membership. WTF?

    • @good4sound
      @good4sound 6 лет назад +1

      Actually, Tony from the Academy just emailed me a link for the exclusive offer. I thought I had lost my mind.

  • @VarunDhabe
    @VarunDhabe 6 лет назад +2

    need more of this!

  • @MrAchris10
    @MrAchris10 6 лет назад

    Great video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @kylepreudhomme1704
    @kylepreudhomme1704 3 года назад +1

    Seeing this video for the first time and the song planner is no longer available. Anyone in the comments have it that are willing to email it to me?

    • @ComposingTheNarrative
      @ComposingTheNarrative 3 года назад

      I would also still be interested in this planner if anyone has access. I did find it available on Scribd if you're interested but you do have to sign up for the free trial to DL. Meh. -.-

  • @MrGuitarist9891
    @MrGuitarist9891 6 лет назад

    Fantastic Video! Thanks for posting.

  • @martinjohnson2549
    @martinjohnson2549 11 месяцев назад

    7:31 wonder where bridge, and guitar solo lay in this metaphor

  • @JohannesLabusch
    @JohannesLabusch 6 лет назад +18

    The lyrics to Bowie's Life on Mars are poetry. Simplistic hit making recipes don't apply to it. I dare you to explain "the point" of that song. I fear the days of that kind of writing leading to major hits are over.

  • @cagnonrocks
    @cagnonrocks 4 года назад

    Interesting. Though I think about songs like Message in a Bottle or Where is my mind, Karma Police... where the chorus might be the lowest point in the song. Yet it creates something fantastic. I guess writing a song can be about forgetting the rules sometimes.

  • @chiparooo
    @chiparooo 6 лет назад

    Great stuff. Thanks for sharing!

  • @cristianandrade9987
    @cristianandrade9987 4 года назад

    Anyone have the pdf??? Please link me!

  • @Pearlpassionstudio
    @Pearlpassionstudio 6 лет назад

    Excellent points here..Thanks

  • @smurfdavinciofficial
    @smurfdavinciofficial 2 года назад

    I love this video thanks for the help

  • @ncyclo106
    @ncyclo106 6 лет назад

    That was an awesome video!!!! Thanks!!!

  • @chrissyjames7711
    @chrissyjames7711 2 года назад

    informative but being a song writer myself of over 400 songs i find its best to find an emotion to write from and not paint by numbers too much , so start middle finish songs for me tend to sound contrived , Boheim rap and stair way to heaven are probably great examples of start middle finish contour melodic , i prefer folk country blues , Dylan hendrix BB king judee sill denver harrison etc so probably why , but all the same a great video to watch .

  • @mvlmvlg5417
    @mvlmvlg5417 6 лет назад

    Hello Graham and everyone else. I have a question about singing. How do I what notes to sing in a song?? Say it's in a D Maj, do I sing the notes in that scale? Please help! Thanks!

  • @zackbolles359
    @zackbolles359 2 года назад

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @charlesmau5142
    @charlesmau5142 4 года назад

    A very good lesson.Keep up the good work sir.

  • @CreativeGamingDorthea
    @CreativeGamingDorthea 6 лет назад +1

    Hey, I'm going to buy a microphon for recording vocals, I have seen your video from a year ago were you say an audio tecnica AT-2020 is great, buuuuuuut, should it be the XLR or USB version? And What audio interface should I use?

  • @mathismarshall8242
    @mathismarshall8242 6 лет назад

    This is very helpful, thank you!

  • @Johnhasa1
    @Johnhasa1 4 года назад +1

    "Give me some more milk" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @CaseyMusicOfficial
    @CaseyMusicOfficial 3 года назад

    Hi, is the 7 step song planner still available somewhere? I am lucky enough to be following the kickstarter 555 challenge for January 2021. All the best, Casey

  • @RichardCejas
    @RichardCejas 6 лет назад

    Great! Thanks I think the 7 steps song planner's link is not working

  • @gloriagomez8336
    @gloriagomez8336 2 года назад

    love this video great tips

  • @deathbysonar
    @deathbysonar 6 лет назад +3

    I think this is great advice that can be used in all genres. Thanks.

  • @purring_pearl
    @purring_pearl 2 года назад

    I'm not able to download the pdf??

  • @lindaandanthonysjewelry6800
    @lindaandanthonysjewelry6800 6 лет назад

    Question Graham, I have a very modest songwriting studio. I'm sure you've heard this before, I'm working with an extremely low budget. I am recording on to a tascam dp008ex with a SM48 for vocals. I want to start sending guitar/piano vocal my songs to people. What do you say?

  • @deeperwithgod7932
    @deeperwithgod7932 3 года назад

    Excellent teaching!

  • @kakashi392
    @kakashi392 3 года назад +1

    If you know anything about the origins of "Song 2" this is SO ironic! Lol