The INFJ love-hate relationship with INTJs
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INTJ are deeply emotionally intelligent and there's a lot of emotional depth, which they don't share with everyone. I think they feel much more deeply than INFJs because our Fe floods us. I married an INTJ and he is very kind and sweet until you cross him.
I typed an INTJ over a phone conversation. Ni dominance gives lots of common ground with us. Although Fi in 3rd, they still have it, plus Te with Ni gives excellent understanding of reality. I think their lacking Ti means they aren’t as interested at understanding the world in a theoretical basis like us. They tend to be highly pragmatic and keen to philosophise about the bigger overall picture of life and the world.
Also, will you do a video on how INFJs think? We get an incredibly bad rap... I understand that many immature INFJs will stay deeply rooted in that feeling and intuitive function in order to stay close to home and comfortable... But it is very easy for a mature infj to engage in the world almost identical to an intj... We can easily learn how to engage our thinking function and when we do we can rival any NT in logic, strategy, precision, analysis, etc.
Your descriptions of INTJs are very informed and nuanced, in contrast to the many caricatures you find on the web. Thanks!
I'm an ENFJ and I love INTJs. You know what, I think INFJs kind of act like INTJs... like they can go back and forth.
I agree. I am an INFJ and my best conversations are with INTJs. The only thing I find difficult with INTJs as an INFJ myself is that they tend to be a little too logical. There's nothing inheritantly wrong with that, but as an INFJ, I see that too much logic is illogical. The more abstract is closely related to the devine which is what I really like. INTJs seem to miss that part, or don't quite understand it.
agreed
I can hate people of my type (INTJ), when they ignore Fi/Fe - and protective/defensive to them.
I think they can hate each others, when both ignore their 3rd function, and impose their 2nd. And they hurt me a lot in this case.
Or when 2 N dom misunderstand each other.
I don't like when they are not open minded, don't listen, not receptive, don't react, don't share what they think and have in mind - when they stay in their Ni, keeping everything for themselves, very private.
We show Fi only when we feel comfortable and safe, to not being hurt.
INFJ when they ignore Ti/Te and Ne - And INTJ when they ignore Fi/Fe and Ne, communication is more difficult.
I have the impression, I have more facility to communicate with INFJ males (surely cause naturally more T) and INTJ females (naturally more F)
Or maybe it's just me, because I am NT type girl.
intjs are our friend they are extremely smart
I think women like INFJs because there is an emotional connection.
INTJ male here surrounded by both male and female INFJs: Why are all of you on drugs? Also, your Ni Ti loops drive me nuts 😅 circular logic at it finest, puts mine to shame.
For me it's just disgust and dislike and avoidance at this point not exactly hate unless this narc keeps pushing it.
Personally I think INTJs are really smart. I respect them for their astuteness. However, they don't give a shit about ethics and justice too much.
Like how Elon Musk is actually an ENTJ? But he and everyone else claim he's an intj?
@@abigailbruner Musk seems high in extroverted perception, so INTJ is pretty unlikely yep.
Musk seems an NTP to me when I see him in interactions and ignore what he does. In his recent interaction you can see difference between as Peterson is takes all 'experts' more seriously as he sees that as competence, while Musk does not seem to care and goes chilling with random youtubers and is way more casual. Peterson also tends to be well read and tends to take basically all his ideas from external sources, like books and such, whereas Musk just reasons on the spot more and ends up wherever he ends up. Peterson is very orientated towards real world Te stuff like 'clean your room, yet your life in order'and gets actually angry in their recent conversation, whereas Musk agrees that he is against the same stuff, but you do not see him morally judging stuff that much. Musk just values free speech cause that's what NTP's stand for most. Open conversation without focus on credentials, as he behaves the same with everyone ('just another person') whereas you can see with Peterson he is very impressed with anyone who's higher on the Te-hierarchy than him, like was visible in their recent conversation together. Peterson there behaved like a fanboy who meets their idol for the first time and is so eager to ask him 100 questions, to the point that he spends more time asking questions than having patience to listen to the replies. So to me Peterson seems INTJ. He is Te-seious most of the time, unless something deeply affects his Fi, and then he starts crying. I see this in a lot of types with Te/Fi axis, whereas they can go from 'super confident' to crying in a matter if seconds if you trigger certain topics.
Also, the fact that their talk felt a bit like they didnt totally get eachtother, despite having the same sort of opinions may because they do not share any functions. Then the convo more easily doesnt take off naturally as easily. I notice this myself with people with completely different functions.
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