Ethan Van Sciver and Actual Fandom Debate the Darwyn Cooke Fiasco

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  • Опубликовано: 28 янв 2025

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  • @EverydayMick
    @EverydayMick 26 дней назад +10

    Thanks for finding this clip, Katy. It's cool to see Ethan interacting with a critic in a reasonable, friendly way. It's a great example of how to be respectful when there are disagreements of opinion.

    • @KatyDidsChannel
      @KatyDidsChannel  26 дней назад +2

      Glad you enjoyed it! I totally agree with you! Thank you for watching and sharing feedback! Appreciate ya!

  • @christinevenner183
    @christinevenner183 26 дней назад +32

    If Ethan didn't get cancelled from DC and he was just kind of fired for bad behaviour, why are all the cons refusing to allow him to attend?
    It would just be DC that wouldn't have anything to do with him.

    • @banemaler
      @banemaler 26 дней назад +9

      It's so simple a child can figure it out. These are often people that feel slighted by the man. Look how their loathing changed the minute he graces their channel. Problems seem to get resolved in seconds.

    • @christinevenner183
      @christinevenner183 26 дней назад +2

      @banemaler Yep you're right. I'm glad I'm not a youtuber, there's so many disingenuous people on YT.

    • @ringofkaren
      @ringofkaren 26 дней назад +2

      Ethan was removed because he said to a DC fan to delete himself, that is what Ethan said in the past, this is not controversial. DeDio told him to wait few months, because he was going to call him back, again, those are Ethan words, but Ethan started doing his youtube thing and had already Cyberfrong ready to go, probably a plan he had for years. Ethan change the story all the time, and constatly lie about everything, but he repeated those events too many times to deny them. Unlike what he says, he censure everybody at this point.
      AFTER he became a vocal youtubers attacking SJW for drama and clout, LATER, sjw started following his moves and attacked him pubbicly, not when he was in DC, he had no problems attending cons at that time. Even now he has no problem visiting cons, and he do, unless he attacked someone relevant or a friend of the organizers. So, if he was cancelled he was his action or decision, but the industry doesn't even have the resources to pay the money he wants.

    • @justanotherguy3294
      @justanotherguy3294 26 дней назад +1

      @@ringofkaren bruh, EVS, Shane, and Malin was recently had their booth C2E2 cancelled after everything was already paid for. This was in 2024. "Even now he has no problem visiting cons" Stop with the lies. Even Larry that was just recently on EVS stream showed his dms to AP about gatekeeping EVS and CG. That is a definition of being cancelled.

    • @christinevenner183
      @christinevenner183 26 дней назад

      @ringofkaren You say he has no problem visiting cons.
      Why then did he, Shane, and Jon get kicked out of a C2E2 last year after they had already paid for their tables?
      Seems like he's not allowed to attend most cons

  • @lancebaylis3169
    @lancebaylis3169 26 дней назад +79

    I'll never understand the "Ethan has changed" argument. I've been here the whole time, and Ethan is the same as he's ever been. People fell away for their own reasons or because they realized he wouldn't play their "Pick Me!" game, but Ethan has been consistent in his messaging and his goals, maybe surprisingly so for as long as he's been on RUclips. And it isn't like you can't literally go back through 8, 9 years of livestreams and see this, they're all still there on his channel. EVS didn't change. Everyone else showed their true colors.

    • @sketchasaurrex4087
      @sketchasaurrex4087 26 дней назад +13

      Only "change" I've seen from Ethan is more confidence and less costumes. I miss the crazy outfits😄

    • @ethanhunt3242
      @ethanhunt3242 26 дней назад +11

      The biggest change in Ethan is his “radio voice” he used to be unassuming and kinda soft spoken on streams, like he was tip toeing around not trying to rock the boat too much…. Which is a pretty stark contrast to where he’s at now obviously. lol

    • @Brandonweifu
      @Brandonweifu 26 дней назад +5

      ​@ethanhunt3242 after being canceled,my boy became the dude....doesn't give a F anymore.he already been canceled,all bets are off 😂

    • @lancebaylis3169
      @lancebaylis3169 26 дней назад +8

      Yeah, it's true his presentation has gotten bolder, more confident. But that's just (as he said in this clip) learning how to stream and getting better at it. The reality is the nature of his content hasn't really changed. Trashcast would have been right at home on ComicArtistProSecrets channel at any point in it's history, because Ethan's mission and his message has never really changed - some of the targets are different now, but Ethan has stayed the consistent one. Go back through Nerdrotic, HeelvsBabyface, DDaycobra, YoungRippa, YellowFlash, heck even Melonie Mac Gaming and compare videos and streams from them 8 years ago to today and some of them aren't even the same people because they've ducked and weaved to conform to whatever they perceive will grow the channel. Ethan has been a straight arrow the whole time. Ethan is just Ethan. He's always been the same guy.

    • @Comfortablydumber
      @Comfortablydumber 26 дней назад

      You haven't seen the video of EVS' saying there is NO cabal against conservative creators in comics, then say there is? To say he hasn't changed is just not paying attention. When's the last time he said CG was a conservative culture war? That's right he only does that when somebody gets on Fox News.

  • @DrWilliamWeirIASA
    @DrWilliamWeirIASA 26 дней назад +34

    "Cancel culture doesn't exist"
    3 seconds later
    "I'm sure it's happened"
    So much dumb I can't finish the clip.

  • @allthehardtimes
    @allthehardtimes 26 дней назад +11

    This long clip is amazing what a pleasure to listen to ....thanks Katy for clipping this

    • @KatyDidsChannel
      @KatyDidsChannel  26 дней назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it. I couldnt break it into 2 parts, so i was worried people might not like it a long clip. but this is good to hear! Thank you for watching and giving me feedback. Apppreciate it!

  • @jonathanlupfer5262
    @jonathanlupfer5262 26 дней назад +17

    This is a very human moment with ppl respectfully working things out. To much death and vitriol going on in the world right now. Its a refreshing change in the atmosphere.

  • @faervas1234
    @faervas1234 26 дней назад +17

    I remember when I happen I got in an argument with his widow. She didn't understand that Cook said things in a video before CG existed. That CG would agree with. She wouldn't accept that CG agreed with him. Not that Darwin agreed with CG.
    I never direct anything to her but she confronted me about my observation and perspective on what I saw. She made it like I was attacking her for having an opinion. She kept on addressing me like I attacked her. I finally stopped responding to her because she made it like I was wrong for having an opinion. Based on Darwin's words that he spoke before CG existed.

    • @Shyhalu
      @Shyhalu 25 дней назад

      Welcome to wmn 101.

  • @mentholmeow
    @mentholmeow 26 дней назад +12

    Thanks for this clip, Katy.

  • @Noticing_The_Happenings
    @Noticing_The_Happenings 26 дней назад +9

    This clip is GOLDEN! Great that you clipped & showed this mending of fences. Wishing you and yours a prosperous new year Katy 😊👍
    Keep up the great work

    • @KatyDidsChannel
      @KatyDidsChannel  26 дней назад +2

      Thank you so much! I wish you and your family have a wonderful New Year! Thank you for always posting in the comments and supporting my channel! God bless ya darlin!

    • @Noticing_The_Happenings
      @Noticing_The_Happenings 26 дней назад +2

      @KatyDidsChannel my family and I appreciate your well wishes for the new year, 😊👍 & you're very welcome for my posting/engaging in the comments section. In my opinion; your channel has become integral to CG. Since you've showed up on the scene you've shown the YT world the good & bad, the right & wrong, the ups & downs within the CG space like no one has done before. To me this channel and EVS's are time capsules of all the laughter, amazement & happiness (also the occasional tear) that CG has brought me and many others. You, like many in CG, inspire me to share my thoughts, create amazing art & strive to be a positive force to be reckoned with.
      God IS good (with an extra o) 🙏

    • @KatyDidsChannel
      @KatyDidsChannel  26 дней назад +1

      @Noticing_The_Happenings omg 🫶❤️🥰

  • @Liadara
    @Liadara 26 дней назад +22

    People say Ethan lies but never tell us what he lied about. I have never seen Ethan lie. I have seen him get stuff wrong but never to outright lie. I have seen A lot of people come in hot cause of things they THINK Ethan said cause there are a bunch of shit stirrers that like the fighting. It is easier to tell yourself Ethan has changed than admit your first impression was wrong and influenced by Wormtongues in your ear.

    • @zephirol4638
      @zephirol4638 26 дней назад +2

      He said he wasn't drunk driving despite him very clearly being wasted.... and driving. He lied about his position and sweeping for Nick Rekieta after he got BTFO'd and tried to act like he never did it. There are plenty of examples throughout his past with various people he has burned bridges with.
      Just because you willfully ignore the lies, don't mean they're not there.
      All the people in this sphere are just windowlickers who argue who's side of the short bus is better, not realizing at the end of the day. They're still all on the short bus.

    • @inseparabletheband
      @inseparabletheband 26 дней назад

      @@zephirol4638 The people who have hate boners for Nick lie about him way more than anyone else.

    • @nailbunny2326
      @nailbunny2326 26 дней назад

      He lied about not knowing what happened with Mandy Summers and Kyle Ritter when he was sent all their messages and knew everything. He knew she was extorting favors from his colorist and started doing it to Dale Keown. He lies like he breathes. Heavily.

  • @bleh2911
    @bleh2911 26 дней назад +9

    "He had been repeatedly saying shit on social media and they wouldn't renew his contract." We've seen industry professionals attacking their customers through social media, even to current day, insulting them with zero consequences. Did they lose their jobs?

    • @lilmovieperp3599
      @lilmovieperp3599 26 дней назад +1

      Every time I check an example of this, it’s a creative being defensive. Can u give an example where this is not the case?

  • @jamesaction138
    @jamesaction138 26 дней назад +8

    Grest clip. I miss a lot of stuff so it's awesome that you're grabbing stuff! Thanks

    • @KatyDidsChannel
      @KatyDidsChannel  26 дней назад +3

      Thank you. That's good to hear hon! I try to stay on top of things. I also have a 2ns clip channel of anything rippaverse or the zeros.
      youtube.com/@katydidclips?si=G8AV0qno7_z6SeML
      Be careful though it can cause brain rot lol

  • @stuckathome9447
    @stuckathome9447 26 дней назад +5

    Thank you for clipping this!
    That's a long clip. Lol.

  • @Sketch_XR
    @Sketch_XR 26 дней назад +5

    Just because AF or OC happen to have a good assessment about Eric July being a conman cosplaying as an artist, that doesn't mean he's anywhere close to being square about anything else. A good reference is when those two tried to debate Sitch & Adam and got themselves utterly nuked from orbit.

    • @cjflan32
      @cjflan32 26 дней назад +1

      AF didn't have a good assessment about Rippa, he hated him because he was a black man who left the plantation. You know damn well Dane sat in front of a mirror getting the N-Word out of his system so he wouldn't say it live.

  • @KrazyKat007
    @KrazyKat007 26 дней назад +2

    The best part of this whole clip was Jim’s satisfied, beaming warm smile! 😊
    Jim is glowing with happiness at having Ethan on, fully knowing this clip will go viral.

  • @InkandFish555
    @InkandFish555 26 дней назад +4

    Thanks Katy.

    • @KatyDidsChannel
      @KatyDidsChannel  26 дней назад +1

      You are so welcome! Thank you for watching it :)

  • @DemonVizarack
    @DemonVizarack 26 дней назад +5

    I would like the people who say Ethan changed to list the things he's changed on. He still promotes, he still entertains, people have come at him, griped about him wanting more of his help, he still continues to be the person who promotes and entertains.

    • @faervas1234
      @faervas1234 26 дней назад +2

      Liam is back

    • @cjflan32
      @cjflan32 26 дней назад +2

      He hasn't "changed", AF is a toolbag who doesn't like EVS and can't articulate his argument properly. But you guys sit here pretending that Ethan not "changing" is a good thing.
      A few years ago EVS and JDA were humiliating Liam (who is a mentally ill stalker) on a daily basis. A year later JDA's on the outs and Liam is back in the fold. Do any of you even bat an eyelash let alone question it?
      Then there's YBZ who has completely lost it and even though Ethan admits they're not in regular contact anymore he lets it slide because YBZ's saying things EVS wants to hear. A good chunk of the audience asks Ethan to take a step back and all he says is "no, you're wrong and one day you'll see it".
      And I don't know why I even bother bringing up his work ethic. Reignbow the Brute is probably facing another delay and you'll just come back with "well Eric July makes garbage so I'm willing to wait another year as long as its pretty" and this is leading to the campaigns barely cracking $100,000.

    • @cjflan32
      @cjflan32 26 дней назад

      @@faervas1234 and this is where you fall into, dare I say, "hibbedy jibbedy squirrel word" territory. Did EVS welcome back Liam? Yes. Did Ethan change? No, all Liam had to do was start kissing Ethan's butt again and all his awful behavior/mental illness was forgiven. That part has NEVER changed.

    • @DemonVizarack
      @DemonVizarack 26 дней назад +3

      @@cjflan32 JDA is a person who goes were he thinks he can profit, didn't like Liam, Ethan has also had his disagreements with both but Liam is back doing work promoted by Ethan.
      Delays in comics happen your not paying for a comic, your paying for the production of it, which is includes marketing, no one will remember its late when its good. He promotes everyone else because he wants everyone around him to do well for Comicsgate, takes time away from his projects but he again helps CG.
      As for Richard he has always been flaky and did his own thing, there where never stable term around him.
      So no, Ethan hasn't changed in anyway that matters, still helping, still making good comics and toys. He's a bit slow on the production yes, but it will be good. I have no comment on erics comics never interested me. have a nice day.

  • @stevenalvarez2924
    @stevenalvarez2924 26 дней назад +9

    Ethan wasn't anywhere near as big during that specific point in time compared to now. At the time, he was comic big but not youtube big, i.e., influential youtuber. So, to claim Ethan was pushing his fans, he needed to honestly look at his popularity at the time to make such a claim.

  • @ryanwilliams7639
    @ryanwilliams7639 26 дней назад +18

    Ethan never changed, yall just started actually listening to him. Every time I hear someone try to attack EVS it’s always something taken out of context. Notice how people always use like 15 second clips instead of showing the entire context of what he’s saying. EVS also has a very dry sense of humor where people can easily take him out of context. At the end of the day you know he isn’t what people claim because he has no criminal record, he’s never been violent, his fans have never harmed anyone physically. There’s no one accusing him of any weird sexual crap. The worst Ethan has done is say some offensive jokes and put out late books.

    • @enriquecabrera2137
      @enriquecabrera2137 26 дней назад +1

      Considering he has an ex-wife who's Jewish and has nothing bad to say about him pretty much shows that the Fatman is a saint. Even if he likes to play up the Darth Vader of comics persona.

  • @fladey1
    @fladey1 26 дней назад +11

    @Katy do you ever sleep? How do you catch all these different shows!

    • @KatyDidsChannel
      @KatyDidsChannel  26 дней назад +8

      Lol luckily I caught this live! Lol got lucky!

    • @nessiesearcher
      @nessiesearcher 26 дней назад +5

      Katy is definitely doing amazing work because I certainly cannot watch most of these streams. So valuable to get the highlights.

  • @gringles
    @gringles 26 дней назад +4

    “I don’t know of any character that was actually replaced.”
    The Question was replaced by Renee Montoya. Try again.

  • @BigSeanH
    @BigSeanH 26 дней назад +13

    Wow that was pathetic... Dane completely shrank in the presence of EVS.

    • @idiotxx1
      @idiotxx1 26 дней назад +1

      those guys secretly like him, like most of his most virulent haters do. EVS is likable. 🌞

    • @faervas1234
      @faervas1234 26 дней назад +2

      It like Trump when he enter the room.

  • @ThorOdinson
    @ThorOdinson 21 день назад +1

    You know what’s funny? The same people shitting on EVS for being late on CyberFrog are CONSTANTLY praising him for Green Lantern: Rebirth. Clearly they weren’t buying it when it first came out, because those books were LATE AS FUCK, and each subsequent issue was even later than the last. I remember going into my LCS every Wednesday asking if the latest Green Lantern: Rebirth issue was out yet and constantly being told that it still wasn’t in. But you know what? After all these years absolutely no one talks about how long it took to wrap up. Nobody cares how late each issue was, because what they ended up remembering about it was how great the story was.

  • @credencedesire
    @credencedesire 26 дней назад +3

    great work katydid

  • @jokinplaysgames
    @jokinplaysgames 26 дней назад +4

    EVS has not changed. You guys just fell off from him because HE outgrew you. Let's be real. If you chose EJ over EVS you got played. Now sleep in your beds.

  • @slakr2392
    @slakr2392 26 дней назад +2

    Thanks Katy 🎉

    • @KatyDidsChannel
      @KatyDidsChannel  26 дней назад +1

      You are so welcome darlin! Thank you for watching and commenting. Appreciate ya!

  • @Gomezli16
    @Gomezli16 26 дней назад +1

    Good thing Ethan clapped back at that Dane frigate

  • @banemaler
    @banemaler 26 дней назад

    When Tony Todd died, I couldn't imagine anyone being able to carry on the legacy. This stream proves we have a new Candyman.

  • @grumpyoldninjakentarooe
    @grumpyoldninjakentarooe 25 дней назад +1

    Katy, THANK YOU & MUCHAS GRACIAS For What You DO 🙏🏾
    You are a LIGHT in #Comicsgate That ILLUMINATES ✨️
    As opposed to Eric JuLUCIFER's Light that LURES. 😲
    STAY You, Katy. #4RILL
    #ComicsgateForLIFE

    • @KatyDidsChannel
      @KatyDidsChannel  24 дня назад

      Thank you, hon, for the kind words of encouragement and sweetness! I appreciate your support of me and the channel!

  • @thehacker4012
    @thehacker4012 12 дней назад

    I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't like either EVS or AF. But I will say there needs to be better representation of the comic book community online, because if EVS and AF is what we have then no wonder comics aren't increasing in popularity.

  • @DogFiles
    @DogFiles 26 дней назад +1

    Katydid, any chance of giving a date that this happened? Trying to put it in context is tough without that, like was it last night?

    • @LowWaterMark9
      @LowWaterMark9 26 дней назад +2

      Yes, it was last night. The evening of Jan 1st.

  • @primalrage7757
    @primalrage7757 26 дней назад +3

    Who's this DaneAF? He's clueless...

    • @cjflan32
      @cjflan32 26 дней назад +1

      He's an SJW who lost his mind over Rippa. Before the whole thing with Dick, Nina and Rippa on Flashcast Rippaverse detractors were comprised of (in my opinion) actual racists like this fool.

  • @manofaction1807
    @manofaction1807 26 дней назад +2

    I'll pay attention to someone who has been making bank in the cesspool that is the comic industry for over 25 years before just some yeg's opinion from RUclips. Just because you have your own negative opinion about him doesn't make you right.

  • @VicAusTaxiTruckie
    @VicAusTaxiTruckie 26 дней назад +4

    Don't you need to sleep, katy? Zzzzzzzzzz

  • @AlbertNickerson
    @AlbertNickerson 26 дней назад +1

    I can't stand woke corporate-owned comic book publishers and their lemmings. #MakeComicsGreatAgain

  • @MatticusFinch1820
    @MatticusFinch1820 26 дней назад +11

    EVS is the Trump of comics.

    • @lancebaylis3169
      @lancebaylis3169 26 дней назад +3

      It strikes me a lot when I see him in appearances like this. It's the same energy as Trump going into the lion's den and changing people's minds with charisma and soft humor. Dane may not completely like EVS, but he seemed to have walked away from this having gained 200% more respect for him. The Trump Effect.

    • @elizabethlyons1066
      @elizabethlyons1066 26 дней назад

      Damn it Matticus, I was going to say that too!!!!!!!!! LONG LIVE EVS and CG.

  • @bluegent7
    @bluegent7 26 дней назад +1

    Ethan is an incredibly succesful comic artist and, in recent years, has succeeded well in writing. Add to that, a popular entertainer. As with any lengthy text or speech, everything has to be taken in it's context. Especially in speaking, time is limited and every utterance can't be explained, and won't be if it already has been in earlier speeches. So, you will understand Ethan much better if you watch him regularly. Otherwise you may think he's every kind of istophobe, due to edgy jokes, which he takes a right to freely express, to a point. With that said, when he criticizes or heckles someone, for hours, he gets carried away and the jokes eventually appears to become somewhat forced.
    All in all, though, Ethan is a good guy who constantly promotes others - at least once a weak on the Comicsgate Kings show. He runs a very successful business, is a husband and dad, and has generally good takes. He's an asset. I'm glad he joined the Comicsgate movement and protects its name at his own expense, so everyone can use it.
    There's no better single alternative to the failing mainstream than Comicsgate, which carries on values the mainstream used to practise. Thus it has drawn many top tier creators with decades in the highly competitive industry, and the backers and supporters are naturally many.
    There's something and someone for everyone. So, if you dislike one creator, be it their books, channel or personality, there are many others to choose from. Abstaining from joining, buying, watching, or if leaving the movement, because you dislike Ethan, I think is kind of foolish. Comicsgate is not Ethan, though he carries a heavy load, for the benefit of all, since he attracts and promotes many who does the same for others.
    A creator who leaves for petty reasons - like imagined or real slights by or dislike of a single other creator - finds out it's usually pretty lonely and meager out there.
    Comicsgate is really quite great.

    • @bluegent7
      @bluegent7 26 дней назад

      I may add that Ethan's criticism is not always just for entertainment, but sometimes has the effect of protecting and upholding Comicsgate, it's benefactors and beneficiaries. As an example, he's laid bare the astonishingly poor quality of products by Eric July, who's stated that he won't promote books by Comicsgate - which previously had promoted July adding to his success - because, as he said, "why would I promote my competition?". He emphatically admonished his followers to "GATEKEEP THE F OUT OF MY BOOKS!". No wonder the world now has to abide figures like Sturgis!

  • @tonytinthisb
    @tonytinthisb 26 дней назад +2

    You know what’s weird this guy actually fandom has me blocked on X and I never even interacted with him lol people are so weird

    • @cjflan32
      @cjflan32 26 дней назад +1

      That's not Weird at all. SJW's are still SJW's, it's par for the course.

    • @tonytinthisb
      @tonytinthisb 26 дней назад

      @ true lol

    • @CosmicSunshine1977
      @CosmicSunshine1977 25 дней назад

      @@tonytinthisb Dane loves the block button. If you don’t agree 100 percent you’re blocked. Hell if he thinks you might disagree with him you’re blocked. 😂

  • @Sugondees
    @Sugondees 26 дней назад +5

    Over the past 2 years or so i can confirm Ethan has changed, a lot in fact. He is no longer the man i used to know, at the start i thought it he could manage to keep it together but over the last 3 months i have seen no improvement. Idk how to tell you guys this.. But the man won't put the pie down and he is clearly at an excess of 500lbs and if he doesn't do something now he will never horizontally recover. That goes for Jon and Cecil as well.

    • @enriquecabrera2137
      @enriquecabrera2137 26 дней назад +4

      The pies have torn this family apart.

    • @lancebaylis3169
      @lancebaylis3169 26 дней назад +3

      It is factually true that a man who eats as much pie as EVS isn't the same as he used to be, at least in terms of BMI and life expectency.

    • @christinevenner183
      @christinevenner183 26 дней назад +1

      The pies, it's all the pies fault 😞

  • @artofdominique
    @artofdominique 26 дней назад +1

    Wait, Ethan is lying ever time he opens his mouth? Really?

    • @KrazyKat007
      @KrazyKat007 25 дней назад +1

      This guy Actual Fandom is a rabid SJW.

  • @Shyhalu
    @Shyhalu 26 дней назад +3

    EVS has never been the same ever since he decided he likes the Joker 2 only because people told him its bad.

    • @jonathanlupfer5262
      @jonathanlupfer5262 26 дней назад +4

      You can like bad movies. I like Tank Girl. The artist face to face told me himself that that was a blemish on his career. However if it werent for that movie id never know that a comic existed about it prior to the movie.

    • @Shyhalu
      @Shyhalu 26 дней назад

      @@jonathanlupfer5262 We have trashcans for a reason.

    • @Shyhalu
      @Shyhalu 26 дней назад

      @@jonathanlupfer5262 Ok Eric July.

    • @-Monad-
      @-Monad- 26 дней назад +3

      ​@@Shyhalu you think Eric July has ever even HEARD of Tank Girl? 😂😂😂😂

    • @Shyhalu
      @Shyhalu 26 дней назад

      @@-Monad- That isn't the flex you think it is.

  • @flaksoft8003
    @flaksoft8003 22 дня назад

    Alliances are forming
    DaneAF will be either Lando or admiral Akbar
    OC should be the x-wing pilot who accidentally destroys the super stardestroyer
    Rippaverse will explode and Ethan SunBeamer will restore balance in indie comic books forming new Comicsgaters