Better than the Helix? Mooer GE300
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
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That henning pauly remark made me spit my soda out. High octane banter xD
6:10 Well, that guy broke all of Glen's bass player stereotypes quite handily...
Shame the bass was so buried in the mix, though :/ Even during the solo bit, i struggled to hear it; probably couldn't have, without seeing the fretting hand.
Anthony Crowford is a beast! One of the best bass players around!
It helps that Anthony Crawford is from a bit of a different background, check out his earlier stuff with Virgil Donati. More recently I've seen him live with Gary Willis at the Bass Bash this year, which was absolutely phenomenal
Matt Reav Glenn and I were actually there! And yes, Anthony was amazing!
@@E1p0tat0k1ng Something like this?
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"oooh but this one's made in China!"
"Well so is the helix"
gold 😂😂
lol yeah....along with fucking everything else
Completely ignores the point that the software is developed by a Chinese company known for stealing IP, his points are always lowest common denominator stuff
@@marw9541 So what if it's developed by a Chinese company? What exactly is your point?
@@JSBroadcast Sorry, I wasn't very clear on what I meant. Mooer is a Chinese company that has had litigation brought against it for copyright infringement. Glenn ignores that this is what everyone is talking about, not that it is just "from China." What I meant to say was "A Chinese company known for stealing IP". I've corrected myself now.
i dont mean to be off topic but does someone know a way to log back into an Instagram account??
I somehow lost my account password. I would love any help you can offer me!
Dude the tone when you start playing at 4:12 is pretty bad ass! And Cam on the drums...always a solid choice!
The synt mode made it as good as any John Lord wannabe l've heard over the years.
If you want to cover Deep Purple songs and you don't have an organ - here you go.
I totally thought of Deep Purple as well!
perfect strangers- not bad!
this is what I came here to say. Thank you for making me see I'm not alone
Now, can Glenn play "Child In Time"?
Who else thinks Huawei should start making guitar multi effects pedals
@john m They can spy on your midi preset using their 5G.
@john m Hilarius LOL
@@JiosX man best of the day
Naah, I think Eventide should release a new version of the H9000 processor that has guitar and bass amp modelling, guitar and bass cab emulation, and tone capture option along with the plethora of the effects that the normal H9000 already has. I'm damn sure such a modeller will blow away every other modeller into weeds.
so they can steal yr information when you play your guitar?
7:10 nice slayer solo
He was my guitar student for about five years when he was going through high school. Then we sent him off to GIT good to see him here.
I think the main problem that the GE300 has in the UK is that it's only £85 cheaper than the Helix LT, which has a lot more useful stuff (more DSP capacity, multiple parallel signal chains, snapshots, more I/O, more output options etc). If it was proportionally cheaper, like in the US, it'd be about £475 (it's currently £665) and at that point I'd almost certainly get one to use as a backup.
My point exactly!
It's cheaper in India than in the US. It's even cheaper in China but that's implied.
The only features on this unit that the Helix doesn't have are the Kemper-like Tone Capture and more Robust Synth engine offerings. Line 6 could easily remedy this by adding more complicated Synth effects and create their own Tone Copy feature, which is stuff we've been asking for.
@@TacticalBurritoSystem - agreed. To be honest, I'm not really interested in either of those things. Synthy stuff ain't my bag, and I don't care about copying anybody else's tones; I prefer to build my own.
The only things that are lacking in the Helix for my usage are decent pitch effects, and something like a Freqout to give more controllable feedback just so I can avoid searching for the sweet spot in the middle of a song, given that we're on the toilet circuit and 10 minute changeovers don't lend themselves to marking the right spots
on stage with gig tape.
Yeah seems most people don't really care with the tone capture. If they scrap it, it will be cheaper.
Everyone who makes a video about modelers always go 'nowadays digital modelers are getting closer' or 'now the difference in sound is very small'. While I highly doubt they would tell the difference in a blind test. There's a fear of acknowledging there's no fucking difference in sound anymore. You can argue that the feeling is not the same, but nobody talks about that
No jokes on bass players when they have arms that can crush your skull. Kidding. Great video Glenn
Kemper profile vs GE300 tone capture blind test please.
Just bought the GE300, thx for the quick demo
That bassist is amazing, watching him play was mesmerizing
The clean chorus sounded *noice*
I have one and i love it, because I can tone capture.
Whoah. I didn't expect Glenn review this.
Nice one.
Dang dude! Well done! I love your personality, why did it take me so long to find you in this world?
Do check out.... Well, every other video by him. This was the tip of the iceberg of who Glenn is. Awesome dude, but also Fuck you Glenn (recurring joke around these videos)
Another great review Glenn, these amp modelers are getting really good! Can barely tell the difference!
I have the ge200 and that is phenomenal u can never go wrong with a mooer product
With everyone so obsessed with the helix over the past year at least, it's great to see someone actually showcase an alternative instead. Even pointing out a few flaws which I don't see many people doing in other reviews in general, not just the helix. Thank you for making the video.
Just out of interest, how well does it work with a bass plugged in instead? I may be in the market for some new gear soon but, more importantly, I felt like letting the world know my disability. Regards!
Not the biggest fan of sponsored reviews. I know you have to pay the bills, but that's not the reason i'm a subscriber.
Nice bass-playing!
I have their Brown Sound preamp pedal, and I adore it, as well as their speaker simulating mini DI, and I no longer need to haul heavy amps and cabs.
Love the intro statement about MIC products!
Finally! I watched Anderton's use this but they never do the heavier metal tones so I always wondered how it sounded for it. Sounds really good!
Sounds good. So polished. Can tell it's not an amp, but in a good way?
Honestly one of the best live guitar sounds I've ever heard was Kreator, who were using a Kemper. It just sounded so clean and precise, and sat perfectly in the mix. It sounded a lot better than many bands I've seen with 100W stacks onstage.
i am loving that bass tone
This is obviously not the point of the video, but it's really fucking cool you brought Anthony Crawford to play bass for the demo. He is a monster bass player and has played with some of the biggest names in the business (Ray Charles, James Brown and B.B. King just to name a few). It must have been a delight having him in the studio.
That rhythm tone was killer when you were playing, the riffs were, coincidentally, almost identical to some from the old Playstation Twisted Metal 3 OST, which also sounded awesome back in the day
Too expensive. Helix LT is a better buy, imo. It might cost a little extra, but considering you'd likely be using the thing for years, the extra cost shouldn't be a big deal. And Line6 is really committed to supporting the whole Helix ecosystem as well, there's really no telling how it'll go for GE300.
They should've went for an "in-between" option for $500. Would've made for an interesting product too, as with these floor modelers it seems it's either 3 switches, or five million. They could've done a six-switch version and focused on the sound and usability (instead of synth crap which is cool and all, but very few would actually use it in practice).
Or something like the helix effects to go with the preamp live
@animaegray
Bro the problem of those ridiculous prices, is due to two products actually:
1) Kemper
2) Axe Fx
Any company that thinks to offer a product with quality shades will set its price based on those two pieces of shit, if Kemper and Axe Fx cost each 500 usd it would be ideal for us musicians.
But most guitarists sell them smoke and buy it, with false advertising, with the stupid tale of "NOW IF WE HAVE THE MOST ADVANCED ALGORITHMS, THE TONE OF A REAL VALVE AMP" and it's the same crap as before but with an eq globally modified and everyone buys it at 1000 usd more.
We should be grateful to companies like Ignite amps that with their wonderful plugin emissary "FREE" we have the same quality of Kemper or Axe Fx and we saved 2000 usd in the process
@@butcher_0392 for the price of a kemper or an axefx I´ll still be playing tube amps for life. And when I compare GE300 with an used 5153 50w I still prefer buying the amp. In that sense ge200 stills a killer!
@@pitaorj
If friend very well that is, unfortunately most do not think so and deceive themselves saying:
If a quality tube amp costs normally between 1000 and 2000 usd, why not pay 2500 usd and I have more than 100 amp?
But what they do not know is that they are not 100 amps, it's an amp with slight modifications in EQ, and at factory it does not sound exactly like a real one without match Eq, the same as you can do with a Pod X3 Live and it costs 200 usd
@@butcher_0392 really not sure what's the point of comparing a VST to an all-in-one hardware solution. It's a totally different game. Not to mention that Kemper and Axe FX are studio-grade equipment that is overkill for your average bedroom guitarist (unless you have money, of course).
Mooer should've aimed for the $500 "sweet spot", this is what POD HD500x and Boss GT units used to cost. With modern multi-fx (meaning IR capabilities and higher quality amp sim algos) units you're either look at "small, cheap, but with noticeable downsides", or at "large, expensive, and somewhat overkill for a hobbyist guitarist". There isn't a middle ground.
that clean chorus sounds amazing
You need to try the amp match feature! It works SO well
Really liked Jake's playing on the most recent Iced Earth album. Awesome track in this video.
I was almost sold on the Hughes & Kettner Black Spirit but am now considering this. And that noise reduction is definitely killer!
proud user of the GE200 here; yeah, Mooer is killing it
happy to see it didn't get smashed by that 'hammer of truth' hehehehe
"Sponsored by Mooer" might have helped a bit haha :)
Well, it's not a "Fearless Gear Review", so... Anything that isn't, probably should be taken with a grain of salt(?) :P
@@atrates damn, i miss that bit
pardon me hahaha
oh shiet that tone and that mix sounds incredible, great job!
The remark on Henning! Awesome!!
@5:00 He bends to the B with his pinky! That is some crazy technique if I ever saw one, well played!
That mix was fucking awesome.
Hey Glenn was hoping if you could review the Zoom G3xn it's a budget guitar processor wanted to know your overall thoughts on it
Where did you find a six string bass player?
Really cool demo song
Wow, that drum kit sounds phenomenal
I recently got a Mooer Preamp Live. I promptly listed most of my tube amps for sale.
Does it have a proper dual output where one can feed a pa, with a speaker cab included and the other can feed a guitar amp with the speaker sim off at the same time? That’s the big death blow to most of these things
I would also like to know this.
I loved the mix!
One of the only channels I click the like button before I even watch the vid because I KNOW its gonna be a good video..thanks Glenn for all the good shit over the last few yrs..and the Rule #2 bassist hat i got from u a few yrs ago was priceless at a few of the gigs i played whenever i got a bass players panties in a bunch over it..and guess what I noticed??? I NEVER got shit for that hard from ANYONE that actually knew how to play their bass,was always a hack bassist,lol.(funny side note- I hopped onto bass for that band as I'm primarily a guitarist,so it made it even funnier in the end that I was the bassist whenever I got called an asshole for "picking on bass players" so to speak.lol
1980's: MADE IN JAPAN?!?
1990's: MADE IN KOREA?!?
2000's: MADE IN TAIWAN?!?
2010's: MADE IN CHINA?!?
2020's: MADE IN INDONESIA?!?
You know what this means. Japan's standard of living improved. Nothing more.
2120 made in the The Moon 😂🤘🏽
Indonesia 😍😍😍
2112: Made in Canada?
2040 - Made in Africa
So let me ask if you remember, was that Solar guitar on the stock pickups? Or were they changed out....... Thanks!
Great intro music bro!
I love my ge 200 its a beast ! what IR did
you use ?
I was kind of half watching this while on facebook. I was thinking the tones sound banging then realised it was a digital modeller. I'm so glad I still have great tone and not have to buy a tube amp again. Sounds like a solid product
I just bought a Hotone Ampero MP-100 about a week ago. It only has half as many footswitches available, but for $400 U.S. it's probably the smallest and cheapest amp modeler out there. You should check that one out, if you ever get the chance.
Anthony Crawford?!! This man is a beast. Saw him with Allan Holdsworth.
it sounds great I wonder how it compares to something like a Hotone Ampero
The only issue with the Mooer processor vs something like a Line 6 is getting it repaired should something go wrong. Back when I had a Pod XTL, the power input jack somehow disconnected from the board so the unit wouldn't power up. Since it was under warranty, I took it to the guitar shop, they sent it to their tech guy and it was fixed in a couple of days (they had a bit of a backlog). With the Mooer, it's pretty much only online importers who sell them, so if something happens that it stops working or something breaks, who knows how much it could cost or how long it could take to get it fixed.
Glen! Could you do a TONE CAPTURE video?
That would be great !
Those bass delts tho
wat
Better product. Finding a bass player like him!
"That's Henning Pauly's job"
LMAO!! I love his channel, but yea I'm not watching a half hour demo.
My Helix totally works for me and then some... but I can't gig it again until I fix or replace a couple failing footswitches. I've been trying some of these Headrush, NU>X, and Valeton modelers and they sound just as good as far as I can tell. I'd have to gig them to be sure though.
Line 6 still has problems with footswitches?? My X3 Live has been broken twice in that manner. 1st time within warranty period. And I barely ever used it. One would think that for Helix, fairly expensive unit, they could afford to up their switch reliability game..
@@reav3rtm Yes! One of the reasons I got the Helix was I'd heard they were reliable and built road tough. I'm disappointed it's already having issues after only 1 year.
A 30 minute looper? Holy shit. Lol. That’s crazy. These things sound pretty awesome. I don’t understand how awesome the mooer amp sim stuff is.
i bought a roland vg 88 in 2002, it fuckin rocked, i still use it alongside my Helix
Ola would be proud of the tone coming out of that solar.
I am really interested in this for an easy direct recording option. Would love to see more on this!!!
Check out the Hotone Ampero. It's smaller than the ge300 but is also 300 cheaper and it sounds as good as this one, imho.
Did you run the bass through the ge300 as well?
good question
@@dirtyharry1881 I was wondering this myself.
i didn't see any bass heads/cabs in the amp list from the user guide.
that would be a deal breaker for me.
I love Mooer Pedals, cheap and cheerful...except this one, lol :)
Interesting unit, I will be sticking with my Helix for no other reason than that it has been reliable and robust on the road thus far.
I always thought the true test of these multi effects amp sim pedals, where the mid range gain/overdrive. I find in the midrange overdrive is where you can really hear the digital artifacts that I hate in these pedals. The more metal sound the less you notice the less you notice the artifacts. That’s what I find anyways.
That's Ola Englund Solar guitar, awesome!
That
Sounds
KILLER
If you use it with XLR it has a ground lift switch for reducing hum
I would be more impressed with the processing power vs helix and axe fx .. More than just sound but the actual gut's of it
Nothing will beat Fractual Audio in pure processing power and tone. I would bet the Helix has considerably more processing poor as well.
You're playing guitar a lot tighter these days! You sure have improved since you started the channel!
Right!? Somebody's been riffing around a bit more.
Sounds good like so many others but how does it feel playing it?
Can you please compare the Mooer 300 to Hotone Ampero?
Yes...I'd like to see an A/B with those two...I get the sense the Ampero delivers better sounds; the GE2300 *more* features.
The guitarist shreds and the bassist is shredded
Being a biker this might be a viable option for me where I need a compact rig that will fit in a saddle bag
The guitar players playing has a young Buckethead vibe too it
I agree with that Mooer is a product that is kicking big name brands asses!!
Did you use the Mooer GE300 on the bass as well?
Glen. So my band hasn’t played many shows. Kalamazoo ribfest and a couple shows around Kalamazoo Battle Creek area. But every show the singer donated the money without asking any of the band members. Now it’s cool that he donated it but am I wrong for being upset for him not asking any of us first? Gas isn’t free and I drive 45 minutes to practice.
That rhythm tone tho. The edge between crackling lightning rod from hell and uh ...bubble bath. It's so fine.
Why isn't a Mooer GE1000 in this video? Is it worth my time? Real in effects IRs. No outside manipulations. I'd rather hear these units compared Eu natural.
"...I don't want to bore you guys with a half hour long demo. That's Henning Pauli's job."
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Damn that recording is AMAZING! Wish the biggest bands could take note because I have heard absolute trash recordings in the recent years even though technology has moved on...
Also, I own mooer products myself and they are awesome from bottom to top
MetallicA
@@bipbipletucha They have become such a huge joke i don't even talk about them anymore and I still respect their playing but i don't mention because of how awful it is to listen to their recordings
@@DLTX1007 yep
Metallica is a prime example and proof that it wasn't the riffs or songwriting that turned the black album into the number one selling metal album of all time, it was the ridiculous amount of time, money, stress, and effort they put into recording it.
But also, nobody wants to pay for music anymore, but expect bands to pay the same amount to record... so we get what we deserve.
How did you create the pitch shifter? Iv been trying to create one but struggling
Hello Mr. Glen,I honestly enjoy your videos.Always be honest
Outstanding Video, like always!! What model guitar is that at 7:58?
What a delightful pedal and multi-effects pedals have come a long way! Currently I have the boss me-80 multi-effects pedal and and that's crap compared to this pedal. Although boss has never disappointed
Sounds really good!
My ipad's bias fx etc. apps work perfectly to my ears... why not this one?
very good, but i think you miss a huge part that is the synth engine i know that you talk about it but that was just a second a think that is one of the key features on this pedalboard cuz that goes beyond guitar and introduce very cool synth sound in example 80s rock , but im convince im going to buy it
Can you do a video in how to make your own impulses?
Where is the sound better if you do not look at the price? MOOER GE300 or Line 6 HX Stomp?
I had a chance to record through the Line 6 Helix (LT) the other day on Bass. The amp modelers... didn't sound too much like what they were designed after, but still produced amazing tones. I wonder how well the GE300 handles bass?
GE200 for people who arent much into tone capture, external fx loops and synth but want the mooer quality amp sim anyway.
Awesome Review! Great Playing! But Damn That Bass Though!! Turn It Up !!!👍🔊🔥