@@hzambrana Nah if it where from ikea it would include an assortment of small parts. Some of which you would need and the rest leave you wondering if they where extra or if you forgot to use them.
As a Marshall amp guy, those original Valvestate 8100's did sound great for that metal tone. The key to those were that "Contour" knob. The only down side to those amps were playing live and trying to get some volume with out it squealing like a pig. Chunk, chunk, wee, chunk, chunk, wee, lol. Definitely needed a noise gate. You can get very similar tone by using the Marshall JMP-1 preamp/ BBE Sonic Maximizer and scooping the mids.
Yes Glenn! Everyone laughed at me back in the day for going with a Valvestate but I wanted that gritty industrial sound and Wayne Static was endorsing them at the time. VINDICATION!!!!
I found a pile of ooooold tapes a while ago, listened back to one gig recording and thought "Man, my old JCM800 sounded so damn good that night, so much better than the other tapes..." - Then I remembered that I'd actually used a Valvestate 8080 on that night as my 800 had blown up for the umpteenth time. Funny how things change when you listen with you ears rather than your eyeballs. I do remember the power switch being a weak point on those 1st gen Valvestates, mine ended up with a pick jammed in the switch to keep it on.
Six Wings to be fair, the problem is people overdoing it. The dual rec has a pretty scooped sound yet it’s one of the most popular metal amps. Problem is so many people equate scooped with mids on zero.
@@sircaballero this! The mid knob is there for a reason, there's always some room for subjectively justified tweaks while still retaining a mixable tone.
What's always bothered me about the mids crowd is that in the past, when I've defended scooping, they accused me of somehow hating boosted mids. My favorite sound is a Marshall with boosted mids - none of them had any idea what they were talking about. I wouldn't even bring any of this up if it weren't for the insane mentality behind a stupid little fucking tone knob.
@@joemarabella2145 that's his 2006 rig. The MGs didn't even exist at the time they recorded wisconsin death trip. ruclips.net/video/MMbEg3qC80Q/видео.html
Is Fredrik Nordstrom willing to do a interview with you for the channel on techniques/tones etc.. for like In Flames/ Soilwork etc..? That late 90s melodic metal had some crushing sounds.
@Derek Charette Back in those days in Sweden, the state paid for every child having a basic music education & provided economic support for rehearsal spaces with gear etc. Now it's not the same. I thinks that's the secret behind the success
A friend gave me a Valvestate and when I did some research on it, I noticed a lot of people hating on it, but I think it's pretty neat. I stuck a Fuzz Face in front of it and was able to get all sorts of cool sounds out of it. It's not my primary go to amp but I still like it, and yea, definitely underrated in my opinion.
Great combination of amps, sounds killler! The Valvestate's high with the 5150's beef really compliment each other, who'd have thunk it?Thanks for sharing man!
This is one of the reasons I keep some of videos on in the background while I'm doing other work. I hear your words, but then when I hear something I like, that's when I know it's time to stop what I'm doing, back up the video about 30 seconds and start watching. Been doing this for years and I bet I never got the angle right but I did get some great tones. I heard some great stuff there! I had to switch gears several times and I much appreciate that!
For years I was soo unhappy with my Marshall vulvastate, but thanks to YT video tutorials like this one, I have gradually learned to live with it and have even dialed in some surprisingly good tones!
YEEES I've been so waiting for the valvestate video! In the music school where I learned guitar years ago, there were multiple Valvestates in every room so everybody could use a decent sounding amp during lessons and rehearsals. My guitar teacher, who ran the school, collected them 'cause they were very easy to find on the used market, cheap, good sounding and reliable. 10-15 years ago there weren't so many cheap but good sounding amps like the Joyos etc. that we have today. Damn this is triggering some nostalgia...Now I want a Valvestate too!
Colony and clayman are basically twins they both have the same intense sound and great riffs and instrumentals, idk why but you could make like a playlist using both albums and they both blend like really good.
Saw this in my inbox and thought "Surely it's not my favorite album of all time "Clayman", must be some other Clayman." and then it was my favorite album of all time Clayman. Great video!
I have the VS 8100 at home as I'm such a shameless Death fanboy, never parting with it. As for In Flames, I'm fairly certain they used a HM-2 in the past. Possibly used as a boost with the dist on 0, through a VS on the Jester Race and Whoracle. Might be talking out of my arse so don't quote me on that, s'all I could find on the web.
@The Tired Horizon Peavey Bandit and a crappy Ibanez guitar, or so the legend goes. Mr. Skogsberg is NEVER going to reveal his secrets though, as the HM-2 is stupid hard to tame.
I love all my valvesate amps. I have had an 8100 since it was new,then got a VS100 when it came out. Both sound killer Boosted on the front end and with a graphic eq in the fx loop. They did it right with a tube preamp because it takes a boost really well. I also have a valvestate 1x12 combo that I closed the back on and added an eminence legend. I've had so many comments on that combo amp it sounds friggin killer!
You know the funny thing is Chuck Schuldiner knew this years ago.He was hip to the Marshall Valve-State while others laughed at him... Think about "Death-Symbolic". That guitar sound is freaking great.
Man i would love to hear that Beta Lead in a video some day, i just love these old SS amps! And yes, i agree with you, those first Valvestates are epic, the 8100 and 8200 are just fucking heavy sounding amps! Cheers Glenn!
Damn. Gotta give mad props to Felicity. She shreds. Love the rolls! People don't realize drums can be like the lead guitar for a band and not just to keep time and fill the sound. Awesome segment!
man this opens my eyes to how much smoke and mirrors goes into recording many new and experienced guitarists are constantly chasing the high of nailing the sound off a record but you never will because of all the double tracking with multiple instruments/amps ect. just get something that sounds good and rock out!
It's really disappointing at first...but you get over it and you can finally buy gear just buy gear you like, & worry about the recording process later once you accept it.
@@protakill people fap about all this gear & tbh they need a Microblock 45 & a cheap clone distortion pedal. MB45 & Donner Morpher > a lot of more expensive gear.
It has been like this for over 50 years now, in one form or another. Phil Spector (yes, the convicted murderer) started working on his "Wall of Sound" technique with multiple instruments all the way back in the 50's (so almost 70 years really).
So happy to hear this because I actually got my old 8100 head modeled into BIAS. Please take your time doing it right. Static-x , fear factory, death, distortion is really where it’s at.
I LOVE "Clayman". It's my favorite In Flames album, mainly because the guitars SOUND so good. BTW, it came out in 2000. Twenty years ago! And Chuck Schuldiner used a Valvestate to record the last Death album, and to play live.
Who cares about some random guy named Darrel...oh I see you mean Pantera, lol. I remember the first time I heard Vulgar Display of Power and the whole sound was so cool and very unique, I didn't know much about production then but the sound of that album is just perfect, guitar drums and vox!
@@Joshcheyka Well it wasn't the classic Marshall/Mesa that's true but I thought his tone went great with the band and the band sounded great so you'd have to say the tone was great
Wow really scooped at 125 225 Hz on the spectrograph. I am going for slayer sound by blending the lower mids at 125hz by low passing the guitar, and high passing the bass there
I had a valve state vs265r back in the mid 90s and it was a beast for gigging. It was I believe a 2x12 65 watt times 2 amp. But it had powered out to cab and running out to a marshal 4x12 cab was amazing
My first "real" amp was an 8040 when I was a kid and I loved that thing. Unfortunately it got stolen and since then Ive owned alot of much more expensive amps and have even built a few of my own. 20 years later my sister's boyfriend picked one up in a pawn shop. I took one look at it and instantly knew it was my old amp! I was expecting it to sound shitty to my more mature ears but i was instead reminded of how good the amp really was! Definitely a unique sound.
Amazing thanks Glen I'm such a newbie with tones recording (badly :) but playing recording 30 years You explain such important and interesting things so well I feel guilty getting such great content 4 free
I have a valvestate 8040 since the first time they came out it was my first amp my dad bought it to me as a present when i was a kid its never fails of anything i still have the box
I bought one of these on a whim because it was dirt cheap. I liked it so much I bought two more. Such an amazing amp. Here's a cool trick to make it sound better: Turn the FX volume all the way up, then turn off the FX loop with the button by the FX volume knob. It really tightens up your midrange and makes it less flubby.
This amp begs to be fondled. I found quirks like this in my amp, you have to make sure it's dialed in check the pots if your not getting the Gain you deserve. 😱
Yeah just lacks mids (I think the 8100 is the better amp), so the FX knob trick works, the mids knob is like treble and the treble is like presence. When dialed right you can change the sound easily with just the contour knob.
AWESOME!!...You sir, will get all the credit for making my Marshall 265 Valvestate Chorus amp, jump in price! They were sleeper ss hybrid tube amps, until you and Johan Segeborn, started dialing in great tonez, and turned people onto their low cost! Btw, a Kool trick with the Marshall VS, is to give the effects loop knob a turn to 3:00 o'clock & it uses all that pre-amp tube gain stage!
I’ve never commented here before but I’ll give it a try. I think your rant videos are funny (even though I don’t always watch them) but I really love it when you bust out the DAW and get nerdy about mixing and such. I would love to see you describe and demonstrate your method for phase aligning cabs that are playing the same signal. Thanks for all the help!
I worked hard cutting lawns all summer and got my grades up so my parents would lend me some money and when I was 13 years old I bought a Gibson Les Paul Studio and a Marshall 8100 Valvestate with two 4x12's. I thought I was the shit at band practice with my Marshall stack when everyone else had little combo amps. Still have both, 27 years later and all I've had to do to the Marshall 8100 is clean the pots a few months ago. Great amplifier. Still use it, however my Orange CR120 head has been getting a bit more use lately.
The cleans are highly dependent on Gibson humbuckers. The amps don't even play nice with a stock Strat. Active pick-ups are out of the question. The valve preamp is too hot.
Gleeeeennnn, when you said Marshall Valvestate it blew me away cause that makes so much sense. That amp, in combination with the Boss HM-2 was the standard for the swedish death metal tone from the 90. Why didnt i think of that??? goddammit!! so many years of research and it was always on my face!
I am totally happy my old man sold me a Valvestate head with 2 Marshall 4 x 12s for $350. Every time I desire a new amp. I revisit that rock'n daddy. Party on dudes \m/
Yes, you've stated many times you're not the best guitarist in the world but I have faith in you. You were consistently about half a bpm ahead of the drummer. 15 min. a day with a metronome will help out immensely, homie. Thank you for the knowledge you've shared here.
Clayman tone was fantastic. I also loved the tones from Reroute to Remain and Soundtrack to your Escape. Both very heavy but clear and focused. I wonder what Glen thinks...
That sounds so epic. And that clip was greatness man. You talk down too much on your guitar playing, I’d play in a band with you, you’d mop the floor with me. Love the videos, keep them coming.
Adding bass guitar really helps with making it all sound better. That is what stuck out to me, then the 5150 sounded better by itself rather than blended with the valve state. My buddy has a 1x12 valve state, its a great amp for classic rock. Great video Glenn! You really had my wheels turning with this one.
You can get some pretty amazing tones through amp blends! One of my favourites is blending two amps, one with a higher wattage (Above 15w) and a 12 inch speaker with a smaller low wattage amp with a smaller speaker (5w + 8 inch for instance). Phil X does something similar!
Not to say it sounds deeper or wider or anything, but it adds that additional dimension to the sound that might have been missing or people been looking for. Anyways, really cool vid. Thanks.
This is the second time I'm hearing you talk about how good a Valvestate 2000 AVT is. I had them on my mind years ago and finally bought one after you said how good they were the first time. AVT 50 Combo. Got it just before Christmas. First thing I did was shit can the 18 year old Marshall 12ax7 tube and put in a new JJ ECC83S in it's place. Noticing the back of a JCM 900 was open I did mine the same way. Finally I bought it a Weber Legacy 12 speaker. So for a little more than $300.00 I have an amp that totally kicks ass.
I love the old Valvestate VS100 amps. Had one since the late 90's, and just bought a VS100RH (head) the other day. So I can stack it on top of my Blackstar S1-100 EL34B head, and plug it into my Blackstar S1 412 Pro cab, when I feel like playing it. 🤘🏻
I know "you could" but for those of us with limited mic selections, could you try this setup with "brighter" and "darker" mics in their respective spots? It would be awesome to see how far you can push the bright/dark concept. Thanks for always sharing the good-good!!
I bought the 8100 valvestate around 96' and the only reason was because it had the most distortion out of all of the amps there in the room. If I had understood boost pedals back then, I may have bought a different head. But you can get get good sounds from it, as Glenn said, you have to really dial it in and mic placement is absolutely crucial for a decent sound.
The combination of a Marshall and a 5150 seems to work so well for heavy guitars. Gojira has also done the 5150 and valvestate if I remember right and Rabea's vid with a 5150 and JVM sounded huge.
bought a Valvestate like 7 Years ago... cost me 300€ Head plus (shitty) Cabinet, but the Amp was good, and combined with a Tubescreamer, did a great Job. I still have it, but i've switched over to using just my Multi-FX live
I played a lot with valvestate....everybody was like what a great sound!! What's that?! Valvestate.....o. Reall? Oké. Valvestate doesn't look like a Mesa, so is can't sound great. People start listen with their ears and not their eyes.
i've got a valvestate 8080v and i probably should switch out the preamp tube, i don't think it's ever been changed. bought it used in probably 2005. sounds... kinda bad. then again, i prefer boomy rich hard rock tones over surgical precision death metal tones when i'm playing. what i'm listening to, though? yeah, bring on the scalpel.
As someone who has multiple Valvestate heads here is some general info for potential buyers!: There are 3 Versions of the Head that you could/should buy. That is the 8100, the VS100 and the 8200 (wich is rare). The 8100 is the original one. First Gen. If you like the sound of Death get this one. Its the exact amp that Chuck Schuldiner used. They are good amps but the reliability isnt all that great. They tend to have problems with caps leaking and pots doing all kind of scratchy noises. Then there is the second gen head, the VS100. This is my go-to. It´s important to know that the Valvestates are neither solid-state nor valve amps. They are a hybrid system where the preamp has a 12AX7 tube in em. The big difference between the 8100 and the VS100 is that the preamp tube is only active on the clean channel for the 8100. This gives the amp a bit different OD sound. On the VS100 the preamp tube is used for both cleans and OD1+2. If you can´t find a 8100 (wich is likeley since they are getting harder and harder to find) or are scared because of reliability issues go for this one! They are great amps wich can get you basically the same tones as the 8100 but are way more reliable due to having better build quality and thicker boards. Also they feature a "power dimension" switch wich gives them a ton of low end. I am sure if Glen would have used that in the mix with the 8100 it would have sounded monstrous. In general a very flexible head. Then there is the 8200 wich is ridiculously hard to find. Its a stereo version of the 8100 and features a chorus. If you ever see one, buy it!! Prices are rising. You may wonder why I am telling you this. The reason is simple. As stated i own multiple of those heads. They are dirt cheap and usually go for 200-300 dollars. They will outplay E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G in that price range with a good cab. Get yourself one before they are gone. Many of the 8100s are already fucked because of the neglect they´ve gathered since the 90s. If you are for a good metal tone on a budget go for one of those instead of this fcking amp sims and everything! And if you want to make some money you are good to go as well. As said prices are rising! It´s not really easy to find a lot of info on the internet about those amps so I hope I could help you all!
"It's genuine Swedish... 3D printed plastic."
I laughed when he said that lol
Swedish made pumps are the craze
so it's from ikea? :P
@@hzambrana Nah if it where from ikea it would include an assortment of small parts. Some of which you would need and the rest leave you wondering if they where extra or if you forgot to use them.
Made me think I should find someone to render one so I can print one at home
The best Valvestate tone is Symbolic from Death
That album is why I bought a Valvestate. That and Perseverance haha
Yes. I agree.
@@cohaagen90 perseverance sounds sooo good
You guys know what you're talking about!!! Best sound ever!
Yep.
As a Marshall amp guy, those original Valvestate 8100's did sound great for that metal tone. The key to those were that "Contour" knob. The only down side to those amps were playing live and trying to get some volume with out it squealing like a pig. Chunk, chunk, wee, chunk, chunk, wee, lol. Definitely needed a noise gate. You can get very similar tone by using the Marshall JMP-1 preamp/ BBE Sonic Maximizer and scooping the mids.
Yes Glenn! Everyone laughed at me back in the day for going with a Valvestate but I wanted that gritty industrial sound and Wayne Static was endorsing them at the time. VINDICATION!!!!
Yeah...he really pushed it...😄👍✨
I found a pile of ooooold tapes a while ago, listened back to one gig recording and thought "Man, my old JCM800 sounded so damn good that night, so much better than the other tapes..." - Then I remembered that I'd actually used a Valvestate 8080 on that night as my 800 had blown up for the umpteenth time. Funny how things change when you listen with you ears rather than your eyeballs. I do remember the power switch being a weak point on those 1st gen Valvestates, mine ended up with a pick jammed in the switch to keep it on.
weak point on my 8080 is the filter caps. on my second set...
Man, you're gonna make a lot of people REEEEE by daring to say something good about a mid scoop.
Six Wings to be fair, the problem is people overdoing it. The dual rec has a pretty scooped sound yet it’s one of the most popular metal amps. Problem is so many people equate scooped with mids on zero.
I call it the midrange mob mentality.
@@sircaballero this!
The mid knob is there for a reason, there's always some room for subjectively justified tweaks while still retaining a mixable tone.
What's always bothered me about the mids crowd is that in the past, when I've defended scooping, they accused me of somehow hating boosted mids. My favorite sound is a Marshall with boosted mids - none of them had any idea what they were talking about. I wouldn't even bring any of this up if it weren't for the insane mentality behind a stupid little fucking tone knob.
Personally i am not a mid fan so much. I'm all bout dem trebles
Ola England has a new video called rig of the week and the Cockblocker is first in the pedal chain . Glenn your playing sounds great .
I also noticed - "damn, has he been practicing?".
YES!! The Valvestate is the underrated hero of some of my fav bands records: Meshuggah, Death, Static X, Prong, you name it
Static-X used the MG series
White Zombie Astro Creep 2000 one of the amps was a valvestate
@@joemarabella2145 that's wrong. Check the studio vids for Wisconsin Death Trip.
@@joemarabella2145 that's his 2006 rig. The MGs didn't even exist at the time they recorded wisconsin death trip. ruclips.net/video/MMbEg3qC80Q/видео.html
@@dervpool Oh I don't know
Dude, BIG Static X vibes from that riff you played with Felicity. Killer tones
That's because Wayne Static almost exclusively used a Marshall VS 8100/VS100 head. 👍🏻
@@TroyPosey huh interesting factoid, thanks 🤘🐭
Bro someone call the fire department cuz my boy Glenn's new tone is on fire!
You might even say it's gone up In Flames
@@GargoyleBard I understood that reference
Is Fredrik Nordstrom willing to do a interview with you for the channel on techniques/tones etc.. for like In Flames/ Soilwork etc..? That late 90s melodic metal had some crushing sounds.
@Derek Charette Back in those days in Sweden, the state paid for every child having a basic music education & provided economic support for rehearsal spaces with gear etc. Now it's not the same. I thinks that's the secret behind the success
L O that and darkness and boredom. Not much else to do, and video games werent as distracting
@@lo3572 THANK you. And here I was trying to figure out if it was something in the water over there lol.
A friend gave me a Valvestate and when I did some research on it, I noticed a lot of people hating on it, but I think it's pretty neat. I stuck a Fuzz Face in front of it and was able to get all sorts of cool sounds out of it. It's not my primary go to amp but I still like it, and yea, definitely underrated in my opinion.
Great combination of amps, sounds killler! The Valvestate's high with the 5150's beef really compliment each other, who'd have thunk it?Thanks for sharing man!
The Clayman album has been my reference for as long as I can remember. I'll have to try this.
This is one of the reasons I keep some of videos on in the background while I'm doing other work. I hear your words, but then when I hear something I like, that's when I know it's time to stop what I'm doing, back up the video about 30 seconds and start watching. Been doing this for years and I bet I never got the angle right but I did get some great tones. I heard some great stuff there! I had to switch gears several times and I much appreciate that!
For years I was soo unhappy with my Marshall vulvastate, but thanks to YT video tutorials like this one, I have gradually learned to live with it and have even dialed in some surprisingly good tones!
YEEES I've been so waiting for the valvestate video! In the music school where I learned guitar years ago, there were multiple Valvestates in every room so everybody could use a decent sounding amp during lessons and rehearsals. My guitar teacher, who ran the school, collected them 'cause they were very easy to find on the used market, cheap, good sounding and reliable. 10-15 years ago there weren't so many cheap but good sounding amps like the Joyos etc. that we have today. Damn this is triggering some nostalgia...Now I want a Valvestate too!
In hindsight it was kinda obvious - Valvestate is the secret to almost every 90s metal guitar tone. ^^
This was pretty impressive! I believe Colony had that sound as well.
Colony and clayman are basically twins they both have the same intense sound and great riffs and instrumentals, idk why but you could make like a playlist using both albums and they both blend like really good.
@@zyriuz2 true. And The Jester Race and Whoracle are twins of each other.
Saw this in my inbox and thought "Surely it's not my favorite album of all time "Clayman", must be some other Clayman." and then it was my favorite album of all time Clayman. Great video!
Clayman was peak In Flames production/engineering IMHO, a worthy benchmark for guitar tones!!
All downhill after that.
Sounds awesome Glenn! Another win for the valvestate. Nice to see another talented drummer too. Great video
I have the VS 8100 at home as I'm such a shameless Death fanboy, never parting with it. As for In Flames, I'm fairly certain they used a HM-2 in the past. Possibly used as a boost with the dist on 0, through a VS on the Jester Race and Whoracle.
Might be talking out of my arse so don't quote me on that, s'all I could find on the web.
Main reason i clicked on the vid, thought he was gonna talk about Chuck's mighty tone.
A boost in front of this head is truly something else. Evil grin for sure.
@@evilst.management8810 Makes me moisten something fierce!
Think I read in Flames used the HM-2 in fx loop. The VS100 does sound different to the 8100, I own both heads so I know.
@The Tired Horizon Peavey Bandit and a crappy Ibanez guitar, or so the legend goes. Mr. Skogsberg is NEVER going to reveal his secrets though, as the HM-2 is stupid hard to tame.
I love all my valvesate amps. I have had an 8100 since it was new,then got a VS100 when it came out. Both sound killer Boosted on the front end and with a graphic eq in the fx loop. They did it right with a tube preamp because it takes a boost really well. I also have a valvestate 1x12 combo that I closed the back on and added an eminence legend. I've had so many comments on that combo amp it sounds friggin killer!
When I see something from your channel related to In Flames I get excited like little baby.
You know the funny thing is Chuck Schuldiner knew this years ago.He was hip to the Marshall Valve-State while others laughed at him... Think about "Death-Symbolic". That guitar sound is freaking great.
Man i would love to hear that Beta Lead in a video some day, i just love these old SS amps! And yes, i agree with you, those first Valvestates are epic, the 8100 and 8200 are just fucking heavy sounding amps! Cheers Glenn!
Damn. Gotta give mad props to Felicity. She shreds. Love the rolls! People don't realize drums can be like the lead guitar for a band and not just to keep time and fill the sound. Awesome segment!
Sent this to my drummer. He says he wants to see more vids of Felicity jajaja!
@@hedonisticpunkvatos lol feels😎🤘
man this opens my eyes to how much smoke and mirrors goes into recording many new and experienced guitarists are constantly chasing the high of nailing the sound off a record but you never will because of all the double tracking with multiple instruments/amps ect. just get something that sounds good and rock out!
It's really disappointing at first...but you get over it and you can finally buy gear just buy gear you like, & worry about the recording process later once you accept it.
The good thing nowadays is that there is so much good equipment at a reasonable cost that it's possible to get a killer tone.
@@protakill people fap about all this gear & tbh they need a Microblock 45 & a cheap clone distortion pedal.
MB45 & Donner Morpher > a lot of more expensive gear.
Jared dines needs to make a video of shaving his head
It has been like this for over 50 years now, in one form or another. Phil Spector (yes, the convicted murderer) started working on his "Wall of Sound" technique with multiple instruments all the way back in the 50's (so almost 70 years really).
We are making a VS8100 plugin in this very moment :D
Audiority Sound Library WHAAAAAATTT???!!! Please tell me more.
Following this. I'm too big of a Death fan not to.
So happy to hear this because I actually got my old 8100 head modeled into BIAS. Please take your time doing it right.
Static-x , fear factory, death, distortion is really where it’s at.
Nice! My 8100 is a bit noisy when DI'd.
That sounds nice!
I just realized you got Felicity Feline on drums. You're the devil Glenn!!!!
That Valvestate sounded amazing!
I had a marshall AVT100X 1x12 combo that I absolutely loved. Worked so well on stage
I LOVE "Clayman". It's my favorite In Flames album, mainly because the guitars SOUND so good. BTW, it came out in 2000. Twenty years ago! And Chuck Schuldiner used a Valvestate to record the last Death album, and to play live.
I had the Valvestate practice amp when I was broke and really grew to love the tone, although I would never admit to tube amp friends, lol!
I kinda remember a guy named Darrel that used a solid state amp. His tone was mid scoopy if I'm being honest, but nobody hated him for it.
Who cares about some random guy named Darrel...oh I see you mean Pantera, lol. I remember the first time I heard Vulgar Display of Power and the whole sound was so cool and very unique, I didn't know much about production then but the sound of that album is just perfect, guitar drums and vox!
His toned sucked
@@Joshcheyka Well it wasn't the classic Marshall/Mesa that's true but I thought his tone went great with the band and the band sounded great so you'd have to say the tone was great
Wow really scooped at 125 225 Hz on the spectrograph.
I am going for slayer sound by blending the lower mids at 125hz by low passing the guitar, and high passing the bass there
@Shockheadd45 you're giving him too much credit, I don't think dude could tell the diff between a MarkII and a line6....
Great video Glenn, it’s awesome that these secrets are being shared. Thanks mate 🤘🏻
Our first EP was all valvestate. And our second was a 6505 and valvestate mix. Love those amps.
Your playing is so awesome now.
Lots of practice = talent
Cheers.
I had a valve state vs265r back in the mid 90s and it was a beast for gigging. It was I believe a 2x12 65 watt times 2 amp. But it had powered out to cab and running out to a marshal 4x12 cab was amazing
I played a VS head for years and was always impressed with the tones I could get from it.
Great tone combo of the tightness of the ss and the compression of the 5150
Clayman is such a great record
Fuck I love this channel! I don’t play guitar, but the recording and mixing in the box info has taught me so much. Thank you for all you do Glenn.
Guy known for metal stuff standing outside in the winter with his signature catch phrase "lets find out"
lol varg
My first "real" amp was an 8040 when I was a kid and I loved that thing. Unfortunately it got stolen and since then Ive owned alot of much more expensive amps and have even built a few of my own. 20 years later my sister's boyfriend picked one up in a pawn shop. I took one look at it and instantly knew it was my old amp! I was expecting it to sound shitty to my more mature ears but i was instead reminded of how good the amp really was! Definitely a unique sound.
I had a Valvestate for years one of the best Amps ever
Hey Glen, That guitar sound is amazing!
😮 that tone is amazing! Her drumming is phenomenal! Thanks for sharing.
I had a vs100 head back in the 90's and I absolutely loved that thing... I wish I never sold it.
I just sold mine - it was arse compared to a DSL. Dunno why people rave about them. You’re better off without it 😎
Get one before Josh from JHS reviews it!
@@ashthegreat1 blame the user, not the tools...
@@Caged63Man you're a tool...
@@ashthegreat1 ...and DSL amps are what canes are to old people!
Amazing thanks Glen I'm such a newbie with tones recording (badly :) but playing recording 30 years
You explain such important and interesting things so well I feel guilty getting such great content 4 free
I have a valvestate 8040 since the first time they came out it was my first amp my dad bought it to me as a present when i was a kid its never fails of anything i still have the box
Felicity’s got some finesse man
Drumming is not the only thing she's good at
@@Amber57499 ???
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Good drummer. Keep hitting!
love her muchhh
Awesome tone, and one of the best drummers I think you've had on the channel! Horns up! \m/
Nice this is so close to my live sound. Mesa duel recto with a vs 8200. I’ve the the vs for 25 years brought it brand new and would never give it up
Love your distorted tones, man! Love the rawness.
Great video on the mic clip. Just picked one up for my studio... Thanks for the tips and such...
I bought one of these on a whim because it was dirt cheap. I liked it so much I bought two more. Such an amazing amp. Here's a cool trick to make it sound better: Turn the FX volume all the way up, then turn off the FX loop with the button by the FX volume knob. It really tightens up your midrange and makes it less flubby.
This amp begs to be fondled. I found quirks like this in my amp, you have to make sure it's dialed in check the pots if your not getting the Gain you deserve. 😱
Yeah just lacks mids (I think the 8100 is the better amp), so the FX knob trick works, the mids knob is like treble and the treble is like presence. When dialed right you can change the sound easily with just the contour knob.
I need a trick like that to tighten up my girlfriend 🤣
@@michaelsorenson3887 lol
An eq in the loop also helps
Bruh, when they hit that low B at the beginning of Pinball Map.
Best thing I ever heard.
Guided by the fredman mics
@@RaveEpicha brilliant comment
AWESOME!!...You sir, will get all the credit for making my Marshall 265 Valvestate Chorus amp, jump in price!
They were sleeper ss hybrid tube amps, until you and Johan Segeborn, started dialing in great tonez, and turned people onto their low cost!
Btw, a Kool trick with the Marshall VS, is to give the effects loop knob a turn to 3:00 o'clock & it uses all that pre-amp tube gain stage!
I’ve never commented here before but I’ll give it a try. I think your rant videos are funny (even though I don’t always watch them) but I really love it when you bust out the DAW and get nerdy about mixing and such. I would love to see you describe and demonstrate your method for phase aligning cabs that are playing the same signal. Thanks for all the help!
I worked hard cutting lawns all summer and got my grades up so my parents would lend me some money and when I was 13 years old I bought a Gibson Les Paul Studio and a Marshall 8100 Valvestate with two 4x12's. I thought I was the shit at band practice with my Marshall stack when everyone else had little combo amps. Still have both, 27 years later and all I've had to do to the Marshall 8100 is clean the pots a few months ago. Great amplifier. Still use it, however my Orange CR120 head has been getting a bit more use lately.
The valvestate is a really underrated Amplifier especially for heavy tones cleans aren't bad but for heavy you can get so many great sounds
The cleans are highly dependent on Gibson humbuckers. The amps don't even play nice with a stock Strat. Active pick-ups are out of the question. The valve preamp is too hot.
Gleeeeennnn, when you said Marshall Valvestate it blew me away cause that makes so much sense. That amp, in combination with the Boss HM-2 was the standard for the swedish death metal tone from the 90. Why didnt i think of that??? goddammit!! so many years of research and it was always on my face!
Actually was a Peavey bandit... You can see a lot of amateur videos of Scandinavian bands in the early 90s using this very amp.
my favorite album with a valvestate is definitely "Wisconsin death trip" by static x. it just sounds so f u l l
That cd is a lot of fun. Summer of 99 with the Ozzfest freebie in the tape deck. Good times.
@Jack Bond no, theres better guitar tones out there, its just my favorite valvestate tone. i dont really have a favorite overall tone
@@heavymachete6235 - Just say Brian May.
First video I've seen. Great stuff. Always awesome to find an In Flames fan.
I am totally happy my old man sold me a Valvestate head with 2 Marshall 4 x 12s for $350. Every time I desire a new amp. I revisit that rock'n daddy. Party on dudes \m/
The MosFET 100 had a lot of potential as well. I loved mine. Wish I never traded it. Got another one later but it was thrashed. Mine was mint.
I like the swing in her drumming, the kind of subtle shit you can't program.
When your old videos pop up in my feed it really strikes me how much weight you’ve lost. Good on ya Glenn, keep it up!
Yes, you've stated many times you're not the best guitarist in the world but I have faith in you. You were consistently about half a bpm ahead of the drummer. 15 min. a day with a metronome will help out immensely, homie. Thank you for the knowledge you've shared here.
Clayman tone was fantastic. I also loved the tones from Reroute to Remain and Soundtrack to your Escape. Both very heavy but clear and focused. I wonder what Glen thinks...
That sounds so epic. And that clip was greatness man. You talk down too much on your guitar playing, I’d play in a band with you, you’d mop the floor with me. Love the videos, keep them coming.
Adding bass guitar really helps with making it all sound better. That is what stuck out to me, then the 5150 sounded better by itself rather than blended with the valve state. My buddy has a 1x12 valve state, its a great amp for classic rock. Great video Glenn! You really had my wheels turning with this one.
I have been rocking a Marshall VS 265 since the 90's.
You can get some pretty amazing tones through amp blends! One of my favourites is blending two amps, one with a higher wattage (Above 15w) and a 12 inch speaker with a smaller low wattage amp with a smaller speaker (5w + 8 inch for instance). Phil X does something similar!
Not to say it sounds deeper or wider or anything, but it adds that additional dimension to the sound that might have been missing or people been looking for. Anyways, really cool vid. Thanks.
I’m not a musician so I dont know much but i know Clayman is my favourite album ever made.
This is the second time I'm hearing you talk about how good a Valvestate 2000 AVT is. I had them on my mind years ago and finally bought one after you said how good they were the first time. AVT 50 Combo. Got it just before Christmas. First thing I did was shit can the 18 year old Marshall 12ax7 tube and put in a new JJ ECC83S in it's place. Noticing the back of a JCM 900 was open I did mine the same way. Finally I bought it a Weber Legacy 12 speaker. So for a little more than $300.00 I have an amp that totally kicks ass.
This sounds like the tone that dismember has on there guitar tone and it's actually pretty close I'm pretty impressed
Sound of Perseverance is the one of the clearest, most cutting tones. It just jumps right through the mix and sings. And its a valvestate.
I love the old Valvestate VS100 amps. Had one since the late 90's, and just bought a VS100RH (head) the other day. So I can stack it on top of my Blackstar S1-100 EL34B head, and plug it into my Blackstar S1 412 Pro cab, when I feel like playing it. 🤘🏻
Nice demos. Even while I don't have the same gear, hearing the sounds helps me use what I have a little better.
Glenn!!! That sounds really great man! Might not be the tone you are looking for but it sounds AMAZING!!!
I know "you could" but for those of us with limited mic selections, could you try this setup with "brighter" and "darker" mics in their respective spots? It would be awesome to see how far you can push the bright/dark concept. Thanks for always sharing the good-good!!
I bought the 8100 valvestate around 96' and the only reason was because it had the most distortion out of all of the amps there in the room. If I had understood boost pedals back then, I may have bought a different head. But you can get get good sounds from it, as Glenn said, you have to really dial it in and mic placement is absolutely crucial for a decent sound.
The combination of a Marshall and a 5150 seems to work so well for heavy guitars. Gojira has also done the 5150 and valvestate if I remember right and Rabea's vid with a 5150 and JVM sounded huge.
bought a Valvestate like 7 Years ago... cost me 300€ Head plus (shitty) Cabinet, but the Amp was good, and combined with a Tubescreamer, did a great Job. I still have it, but i've switched over to using just my Multi-FX live
Great video. Have you tried out Fredman's Kemper profiles? There's an actual clayman profile in there :)
Great video, learned a lot from this, cheers
Glad it was helpful!
Now do The Jester Race
Yeeeessss
Boss HM-2 into a Valvestate
The rhythm tone isn't really that good... I love the clean tone and the music itself tho. Favorite album.
@@johnyang799 I absolutely love the rhythm tone. But then again, I might have developed a bias because I love the music itself!
@@Tarn92 Pretty sure it´s a Metalzone, not the HM2.
Had a Valvestate for years. The palm mutes are so tight.
Greetings from a Valvestate user!
I played a lot with valvestate....everybody was like what a great sound!! What's that?! Valvestate.....o. Reall? Oké. Valvestate doesn't look like a Mesa, so is can't sound great. People start listen with their ears and not their eyes.
i've got a valvestate 8080v and i probably should switch out the preamp tube, i don't think it's ever been changed. bought it used in probably 2005. sounds... kinda bad. then again, i prefer boomy rich hard rock tones over surgical precision death metal tones when i'm playing. what i'm listening to, though? yeah, bring on the scalpel.
If people couldn't use thier eyes when dialing in an amp the world would be a better place
Awesome video man. Love view of the back yard. Have a great day.
Cool vid, dude.
Glenn, those harmonies and mix make me straight up think of Anacrusis! Love it!
I remember Zakk Wylde having some very positive things to say about these Marshall Valvestate amps.
As someone who has multiple Valvestate heads here is some general info for potential buyers!:
There are 3 Versions of the Head that you could/should buy. That is the 8100, the VS100 and the 8200 (wich is rare). The 8100 is the original one. First Gen. If you like the sound of Death get this one. Its the exact amp that Chuck Schuldiner used. They are good amps but the reliability isnt all that great. They tend to have problems with caps leaking and pots doing all kind of scratchy noises. Then there is the second gen head, the VS100. This is my go-to. It´s important to know that the Valvestates are neither solid-state nor valve amps. They are a hybrid system where the preamp has a 12AX7 tube in em. The big difference between the 8100 and the VS100 is that the preamp tube is only active on the clean channel for the 8100. This gives the amp a bit different OD sound. On the VS100 the preamp tube is used for both cleans and OD1+2. If you can´t find a 8100 (wich is likeley since they are getting harder and harder to find) or are scared because of reliability issues go for this one! They are great amps wich can get you basically the same tones as the 8100 but are way more reliable due to having better build quality and thicker boards. Also they feature a "power dimension" switch wich gives them a ton of low end. I am sure if Glen would have used that in the mix with the 8100 it would have sounded monstrous. In general a very flexible head. Then there is the 8200 wich is ridiculously hard to find. Its a stereo version of the 8100 and features a chorus. If you ever see one, buy it!! Prices are rising. You may wonder why I am telling you this. The reason is simple. As stated i own multiple of those heads. They are dirt cheap and usually go for 200-300 dollars. They will outplay E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G in that price range with a good cab. Get yourself one before they are gone. Many of the 8100s are already fucked because of the neglect they´ve gathered since the 90s. If you are for a good metal tone on a budget go for one of those instead of this fcking amp sims and everything! And if you want to make some money you are good to go as well. As said prices are rising! It´s not really easy to find a lot of info on the internet about those amps so I hope I could help you all!
Do you know the differences between a 65r valvestate and the 8100?
God it sounds so good. the hm300 buzzsaw tone has resurfaced and i hope this old-school Gothenburg tone does too.