The New 2022 Porsche 911 GTS: A First Look
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Is the 992 GTS still the sweet spot of the 911 range? Time will tell. But let's dive in to what we know about the newest 911 GTS.
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Love the content Joe, as nice as the new ones are...I prefer your na car.
I appreciate that! I really enjoy it. I am not moved to give it up at the moment.
Can’t beat the NA sounds.
@@Joe_Hutchinson Have to agree. I love the tech but really really like your NA better. Also, yours will go up in price!
I totally agree about all the plastic. These cars are way too expensive to have unpainted plastic body panels.
I agree too
agree. look at the chin on the new GT3. At least the GT3 Touring has body color front..
Pretty sure you can order the black trim in spec paint color.
Pretty sure You’re GTS has reduced sound deadening. My 991.2 definitely had it. You also got bigger brakes. Plus you could spec buckets in yours and the .2 car. They introduced lightened glass on the carrera T. Now available on the 992. Your car is still fire. 🔥🔥🔥
Thx for sharing your passion! I'm not certain, but based on other videos, it appears that the ''deletion'' on sound detening only comes if you choose the Lightweight package, nobody else mentionned that all new GTS comes with less sound detening... I could be wrong. Congrats on keeping your normally aspirated GTS. Regards.
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Thanks Joe for another great informative review
Your 991.1 GTS is certainly a sweet car and the high revving NA sounds awesome. But I'm addicted to the turbo thrust of the newer Carreras, and the bassy throaty sound of the 992GTS. Seriously fast car!
I can't help it but...I just can't stand any Porsche in RED!! It just washes out every sweet line of the car😣
Porsche red... Noooooo
Ferrari red.... Yesssss
I also have a 991.1 GTS like you and everytime I open the door and see it then put the key in and fire it up it puts a massive smile on my face 👍 the 992 is amazing but lacks character and the back end looks like an Audi.. Lol... Sticking with the flat 6 NA for me
3:00 "Lightweight package" = you pay more, and we give you less. Typical Porsche speak. Lol...
not entirely... the full carbon bucket seats are incredible value for that price. they are worth over 10k on aftermarket alone. only thing that you really get "less" of is the absence of rear seats
Joe, I've following your channel since we both got our 991 GTS (mine was black) way back around 2015. Always enjoy your videos, and it's nice to see you still around. After a slew of GT cars, building a new one right now and considering Agate. Such an awesome color. If I don't go Agate, I'll likely go Aventurine Green or GT Silver. I get sick of colors so I usually stay with greys or silvers. How has the Agate aged in your eyes? Oddly enough, after all these years, I don't recall ever seeing Agate Grey in person. Is there some brown in this grey? Do you think it work well with Cohiba leather? Thanks for your thoughts and take care.
That M3 in the shot is so damn ugly.
Ha ha ha!!!
Given the price of this GTS, I think I'd just go with a GT3 touring for that naturally aspirated 4.0 which gives you that 9000 RPM redline providing a more engaging soundtrack and a more linear driving dynamic. That's just my preference though.
How much is GT3 Touring? But the dealer would not sell it everyone due to limited allocation.
@@mcw5318759 At these prices, a $10k - $15k price difference is relatively insignificant and ALL vehicles are hared to get right now. If I was going to purchase any vehicle as expensive as a GT3 (or any 911), I'd definitely special order the exact spec I wanted and wait for it.
Not everyone wants a RWD only model and you wouldn’t even get a GT3 model unless you were a either million pound+ Porsche customer or were willing to pay a reseller a 30%+ premium 🤷🏻♂️
We would all go for a GT3 touring, if we could get one. I doubt Porsche would sell any other car if they made that readily available. Apparently in the UK, only 34 GT3 tourings were made available for sale, so as many as you see on insta, etc, they are a really rare car, hence the dealer markups. So GTS is as close as most people are gonna get, but as you explained it’s a very different car.
@@dlg5485 10-15% everyone would stump up the extra. The current touring sits at around a 40% markup at the moment.
Thanks for comparison Joe. The C4 GTS is my favorite Porsche
Which ode of these GTS comes with none microphone gear shifter? Thanks
The GTS also has the Turbo sports suspension with the helper springs in the back, not just the Turbo brakes. And the manual is internally strengthened to cope with the extra torque. Maybe that's why you no longer get the Sports Chrono package for free with the manual.
Gotcha. OK.
Looks very nice but mostly typical GTS upgrades apart from the lightweight package. I would only go for the GTS if I can't get a GT3 tbh. It's pretty much a sportier package model still halfway there to a GT3.
Hence a lighter Carrera with some cool options would suffice.
Pretty sure this is exactly what Porsche is going for...
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The real advantage of the GTS in the Carrera line up until the 991.2 generation was the wider rear combined with the rear wheel drive, that was a unique offering (borrowed from the 2010 limited edition ‘Classic’ model), which only the GT models could/ can offer at the expense of less comfort (no rear seats, more stiff chassis, all in all more track oriented set up…). With the 992 all this is gone, I don’t see any real competitive advantage now, you could just buy a Carrara S and add a few more options and there you go…
The gts is still a smarter buy in my opinion.
I agree with all the above, plus I’m not a fan of all that exposed plastic just like Joe mentioned, and I was never a fan of all that interior alcantara. I’d go with a cheaper Carrera S or 4S and just add the extra options.
No, adding options to normal. Carrera S will cost more, than a GTS.
Plus, you won’t get Turbo S brakes, Upgraded springs and 30hp more power that get with GTS.
Joe glad to see you’re back. I remember when you were reviewing your baby, the Porsche, good for you proud of you. Respect ✊
Thanks so much!!!!
Chode automatic shifter is interesting
Great video and teaser with the BMW!
Hi Joe
Amazing videos, as always!
Can I ask you your opinion on 997 C2 Manual vs your current 991.1 PDK?
Thank you for doing what you do and for keeping us informed and entertained!
Martin
I made a video on comparing the 997 and 991 in the past. But I think I should update it now that I have much more experience. I really enjoyed my 997.2 C2S manual. It is a great car. I also continue to enjoy the 991.1 GTS PDK. You can't go wrong with either. The 991.1 GTS is more powerful with generation enhancements to handling and the PDK is truly amazing. Even though I have had manuals all of my car life, the PDK is impressive and fun. Do I miss the interactivity of the manual, at times yes. The performance envelope of the 911 GTS is greater than the 997 Carrera S, but I the C2S manual has more of an analog feel, which is very enjoyable. Some people praise the hydraulic steering of the 997 vs the electronic steering of the 991. Not sure I could tell that difference, honestly. Maybe I would've needed track time in the 997 to feel that, not sure. Yeah, I think I need to do an updated video on this comparison, but those are some of my top-line thoughts.
Thank you so much for your detailed answer.
Some days after I wrote the question I found your video comparing your previous 997.2 vs the 991.1 PDK -BTW, great video again!
Looking forward to your next video, Joe!
Best wishes,
Martin
Love the breakdown!!!
It’s the S with some options. Nick Murray done a good analysis, you are basically paying £7k for a slight engine tune. 4S for me
Yes, I saw Nick's take. A buddy and I were chatting and came to a similar idea that Nick mentioned in his video: Put the GT3 NA engine into a GTS set up, and that would be a very special version.
It’s £3k more than the 4S I was going to order, so went with the GTS cause it came with almost all the options I had spec’d on the 4S, plus the turbo wheels looks better then any of the 4S wheel option IMO, and the GTS has always had better residuals. Total cost for mine £123,706. The GT3 touring I had spec’d was £131,713 but no slots at any U.K. dealers - VIPS only innit!
@@expulseofficial congratulations on your order, it’s a dream machine for sure. I contemplated it for a bit but stuck with my 4S order, for various reasons, one being that I think the RS spyder wheels were always my first choice 👍🏼🏴🇬🇧
@@mblondon1000 I’m still having doubts because there are some really nice approved 991.2 GT3s out there for £140k which I suspect will continue to have strong residuals.
@@expulseofficial it’s a tuff one but I would stick with your plan
I have a C2S7MT on order. Thank god i dont like this otherwise id be asking to change. Not frozen yet. I just dont care for this. To much black, dont care for the wheels. Love the wheels on the new Cayanne Turbo GT in gold! And they are 5 lug vs the center ... hA you think the kids in the playground would make fun of me rolling up in a 992 with Cayanne turbo GT wheels on? I mean id do the gold GT3 wheels but again they are center mount. I want the GT3 hood and front bumper too.
oh snap Joe first out the gates!
You're def right Joe. Too much black plastic. Concerning for the longevity as those parts will def fade.
sounds like a great car based on the specs I would definitely say yes over the S, I wish the would be the shifter from the GT3 on the PDK on the GTS, who knows maybe on the Gen 2.
Great video! Did you see the aero kit option? It looks amazing in the Porsche car configurator.
Nice upgrades but all that power can only be unleashed at the track. On the street, 991 will flare same amount of flames.
O designer do novo 992 GTS ficou muito mais atrativo e imponente, para-choque com linhas mais harmônicas, este vermelho então tá top demais.
Nice channel, greetings and abo from Berlin!
First of all, congratulations on your great 991.1 GTS! still timeless and beautiful. I'm still trying to like the 992, but I'm having a hard time. I think the 992 is too aggressive, too wide and somehow angular. I find the 991 to be the overall successful and round concert. Somehow more Porsche. The 992 seems somehow Too much wanted. But as always subjective and a matter of taste
You read the brochure
When I posted this video 4 months ago, it was the day after Porsche announced information about the new 992 GTS and those press materials were all anyone had access to back then. No cars were available. Many of my buddies hadn't even heard that the new GTS had been announced, so I put out this video of what I learned from the press materials at that time to let folks know. 4 months later, lucky reviewers have now driven the car.
Nice review. Great car.
Glad you liked it
Joe. 2022 GT3 is the main event dude!
the 911 gts is my dream car, one day!
My Brother from another mother!
Hi Joe
Great Vid, I prefer our 991.1’s though.
Right on!
I'll take your 911GTS over the new one
Thanks so much. I still really enjoy my NA version.
I cant stopping laughing at how hard Porsche is trying to make the car sound better. I have a hint for Porsche, if F1 with their billion dollar budget couldn't improve the sound on turbo F1 cars, the street cars have no hope. Concentrate on 0-60 and bragging rights about Tq numbers, you want sound, feel and true essence of GT cars, get a 991.1 S or GTS (or GT3 of course). Turbo cars ruined modern 911s, period!
Maybe, but I guess PORSCHE is as sad as you (and most petrol heads) are about that. They are forced by legal measures to reduce noise levels (dbA regulations in germany and probably also rest of europe will become stricter soon, so they already are complying now in order to not be forced to modify it afterwards). Next thing is the reduction in CO2 exhaust, this also is only achievable by a combination of reducing the engine size plus turbos. Industry in germany needs to achieve a certain CO2 level across their range they offer, if they want to avoid huge fines. Since PORSCHE does not build Polos, Twingos or Smart Cars, to minimize the penalty they stick to the hybrid models and to the Taycan.
Guess if they would be allowed to do whatever they wanted, all street legal 911s would sound like the RSR model, which in my opinion is the best sounding PORSCHE EVER!!!
it's a huge let down. 0-60 slower than a model 3 performance at half price. oh did i mention FSD?
I'd only get an ICE car for the manual shifting experience from now on. Ideally my model 3 performance is the daily, and maybe drop top porsche or those Shelby mustang GT350 for the weekend.
Oh stop it. Not everyone is a Tesla fanboy. I'm not against EVs, but I wouldn't buy any Tesla product given their abysmal build quality. It's literally the worst in the industry.
@@dlg5485 criticizing Tesla’s build quality these days translates to “I’d rather spend $15-20k more on a comparable German car with fewer panel gaps but far worse performance, tech, and safety than Tesla just because losing to a electric family sedan in a drag race and watching people get rich off of Tesla stock and dogecoin gives me an inferiority complex”
Happy for all Tesla is doing but could care less about them, I’ll drive manual ice until they are phased out of existence. Driving them with an amazing sounding exhaust feels like playing a musical instrument, it’s my therapy, I have zero interest what so ever in EV’s even if they were 50 billion times faster, I have enough speeding tickets, I just wanna cruise and enjoy the drive.
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