First time Salary as a South African ESL teacher in China 🇨🇳/ agents/ rip offs
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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In simple terms South Africans please don’t sell yourselves low because yourls desperation results in the fall of others. If you get offered 11k ¥ slap that agent please. Settle for nothing under 14k in t2 and t3 cities atleast with no experience
You are spitting nothing but FACTS! Guys, I'm also in the process of applying to work abroad, whether China or Korea. I understand the desperation of not having an income and so on, but like he said, when you sell yourself short, that reflects on all of us as a nation and thus leads to these people exploiting us even more. Same thing happens in our country. You look at how much government internships offer someone with a masters degree and it's straight up insulting!!! But we do it because obviously desperate times. How many factrory workers do you know who work for Asians who work 7 days a week, with below minimum wage in SA???! Please bafethu, lets not let these people disrespect us even further. Because, they will treat you how you sold yourself when you get there. And also, can we take this job of teaching English seriously guys...do your part, improve yourself. So that you can deliver excellent service. These are people's kids and people's futures we are talking about. Treat it as you would any profession. ❤
These people in groups have even agreed to 8000rmb per month 😣.
@@MfanaKaMshengu this will end us all😢
@@MfanaKaMshengu yooh
@@abdulthiam howsit bro all is good there 👌
@serria john anything under 14k is too low. You did not leave South Africa for 8k which is the same amount you earn back home. Also teachers prefer t1,2 and sometimes 3 where they won’t be socially isolated. It harder for internationals to live in 3 and 4 tier cities. As much as it cheaper however cultural shocks are just beyond 8k in that isolation. When you are an international teacher you require a lot even insurance that most schools don’t provide hence whenever a teacher dies people must gather money to send the body home because it costs 300k. Again these 8k 10k 12k salaries are not offered to other English native teachers just South Africans. So we can’t ignore those things. South African must ask for nothing below atleast 14k in t2 n t3 t1 it will depend on housing and so on,,,
Thank you for sharing 🙏. I want to start my application process.
There are many places to get help. On Facebook there is a page called South Africans in China. Or you can inbox me on Facebook or LinkedIn “Mpumelelo Mshengu “ I will share all the contacts n staff
@@MfanaKaMshenguI tried messaging you on Linkedin but it won’t allow as I’m awaiting you to approve our connection. I’m trying to apply and I would like some info on the schools you applied to. Thank you so much for this video and all the knowledge you’re sharing
Watching your videos is so encouraging shame angifuni ukuqamba amanga I'm so inspired.Siyabonga bhuti🫶
Wozani nje nani emazweni
Thank you!
Very informative.
I have an Advanced Diploma and I’m currently doing Postgraduate Diploma. I just completed my TEFL and hoping to get a job soon in China😭😭
Last I checked it was only a bachelors degree required and masters going up. I only know one person who has went to South Korea with a postgrad diploma, I will try search if there’s anyone in groups I’m in just to be safe
You need a bachelor’s degree unfortunately for visa application. They do not recognize advanced diplomas there.
@@zoe4eelwith a diploma and pgce will they accept my visa application??
Please reply
@Maps05 Hi Maps, so as mentioned before (if your qualification DOESN'T specifically say BACHELOR of whatever, it won't be eligible. You need a BACHELOR'S degree to apply. Even though the NQF you may hold an NQF 7 qualification that may be equivalent to a bachelor’s degree, they still won't recognize it. Your PGCE needs to have been obtained with a bachelor’s degree. So you can try apply in other countries that are less particular about their educational certification.
@@Maps05 hope this helps
Syabonga kakhulu my brother.
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So in tier 2 you don't get free accommodation or yiu decided to move?Sorry I might have missed the video
You decide on all cities whether you want free accommodation or they will give you money for rent
@@MfanaKaMshengu Oh ngiyabona.Thank you.
Thank you for this.
Very informative thank you ❤
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It's all a trick be very careful. May Yahweh bless your steps..
Just came here from TikTok
Zwide 👌
Hi, this video is very informative
I'm going to china this month to start 1+4 university. i want to know if i should study 1year chinese and 4 years university or just start 4 years university without studying chinese?
Which one do you think is better?
Hello unfortunately I’m not sure as how China works when it comes to studying here at university level. I do know though that students do take Chinese classes upon getting their qualifications. So please search others that might have the better knowledge on this 🙏
Please do a video of how much you can save while teaching there🙏
Will be on it 👌
Done
Hello, do you know if there was an update news in China about the South African kindergarten teacher assaulted by her employer in Shanghai? Very Sad to have read and viewed the news outside of China.
She is also on RUclips n tik tok she did an update recently so check her out on tiktok
she is on youtube outside of China. what of inside of China? what are your thoughts about this case? @@MfanaKaMshengu
please do not reply if it has a chance of hammpering
your employment.
Mshengu, please help me by referring an agent...I have my passport and TEFL...okunye ngsazokulungisa
Just inbox me on Facebook Mpumelelo Mshengu. Will sort you out
Hi, would you recommend T2 city?
So money is really better in China compared to South Korea?
Yep,, sesikhulumile vele 👌
@@MfanaKaMshengu I second that . Teaching in South Korea is OK . However, the base is 1.800 US . Not worth the 22 hours you have to work . I have been here for years. Leaving for CHINA. Plus it is expensive fruit , meat , ect . A couple of years ago ESL paid now they are looking for SLAVES.
Yho! Good to know. Would you put me in touch with a recruiter? I have a PGCE, a teaching license and experience. I have my visa papers. More will be finalized in three weeks.
Holla me on Instagram will hook u up
Thanks for the info
No probs ✌🏾
Sawubona.
I wanted to ask if it will it be easy or hard for me to get a teaching job in China? I have B.Ed (SACE), TEFL certificate and 2.5 years teaching experience in South Africa
Easy the hardest part at the moment is getting a good salary, they have dropped abit since boarders opened and the loss of training centers but overall you will get a job!!!
@@MfanaKaMshengusawubona bhuti. When you say dropped , by how much? I was offered between 12-14 RMB and my head started buzzing and I heard your voice saying “don’t you dare accept that offer”😂
14,000 yuan = 36,900 rand = 1,966 US Dollars
Cha ngyakuzwa mina, wayishaya into yakho Mshengu👌
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Hello my Brother thanks for your idea.
I just found that awunalo ulwazi ngama boarding school for Grad 6 to 12 for international students ngifisa izingane zami zivunde echana but not that expensive even in the rural areas in Chana
Thanks 🙏
Ngisebenza kwi international school there are boarding houses kodw fees amba eqolo. I will check fr primary but iyngane n early grade kubiza 46k¥
Hi, thanks for this. It was really helpful. Can a family of 2 live well on 22k RMB in Suzhou, Jiangsu Province?
Jep they can. You can push to even saving 10k rmb a month n using 12k . Suzhou is not that expensive I live in suzhou, wuzhong district I pay 2900¥ on rent for a two bedroom. In sip rent ranged from 2500-4000 1 n 2 bed apartments . I live with my gf we probably spend 2000¥ on food n that because we chow a lot. 1500 ¥ for food should do. Just make sure you get a housing allowance or free apartments than you can travel China with that salary n live comfortably
@@MfanaKaMshengu This was really helpful. Thank you very much
I can hardly hear the Volume on this.
Is 8000rmb enough in Changchun? ( accommodation and health insurance is provided)
Nope to low let them add atleast ke 6k on that. They must giv you bonus nyana, flight allowance too n staff
Where do you work in Changchun? What do you get paid now?
Hey I've a bEd degree intermediate phase. In china do they take student's who obtained their qualification thru distance mode....please help
Yes aslong as you can provide saqa and the required docs such as sending them to dirco n embassy
@@MfanaKaMshengu ngyabonga kakhulu
Hey man. From mzansi been working on contract uts about to end. Wana move and teach in china. Already have a tefl and a degree. How much would it cost to prepare documents. And flight to get there plus to survive first month month.
To prepare docs it costs between 2000-4000 with agents most of them. Cheaper if you in jhb and can pick up and collect yourself. Most offices allowed agents only but that had changed as even the Durban office just recently opened. Hola me Mpumelelo Mshengu on Facebook or LinkedIn I will send some agents for documents I trust.
Check my other vids on flights and first month of living. It al depends on which city you go to. Also made a video recently on how to cut flight costs 👌
Hi Mshengu, so thina boma PGCE abasifuni, even with Honours in Educational management?
With pgce you are cream here. Most schools now want teachers with a teaching qualification
@@MfanaKaMshenguso with a diploma and pgce am I still legible……. I don’t have a degree
I have Btech in Chemical Engineering. I don't have any teaching experience. Do I qualify to teach English in China?
Yes you do you just need tefl certificate than you good and sort out other docs
Thank you
Hi please advise on what shipping company can I use from South Africa to china or visa versa
Dhl, but depends on what you want to ship , there are many other companies some with Risks as you may have heard a month back a container ful of peoples orders was confiscated in Durban from China
Hi. How much did you have when you moved to China, and was it enough to cover everything for the first 3 months?
First time I went to China I had a flight ticket I had bought for R8000 n R20-25000. I took a loan from the school to pay rent as my rent was 2500¥x4.
25k was enough I just naught bedding a pot and food and I was good to go.
I returned again now in January after staying in mzansi fr about 8 months. I’d say I used a lot this time as I came back with my gf. You know woman and spending,,,, we probably clocked 100k. But as a single person. 3000¥ is enough for you on t2 n 3 cities. For food basics for the first month. With rent it will depend on a school which city it in n how much rent is there. Here in Suzhou just outside the city rent can be from ¥2000-3000 a 1 bed apartment n 3600¥ 2 bed. So you times that by 4 and it will give you how my ch you need.
Schools offer free food mostly lunch n also some have free apartments so you can literally change R10000 and arrive with 4000¥ n all you need is food. So it depends on a lot of things but the location of your school would let me advise better
@mfana kamshengu Thank you, I'm still in the application so I don't know which City I might be placed in.
@@onesimomde2084 check that first but for food 3000 to 4000¥ for the first month is more than enough. You will just buy a sim for 200¥ even at the airport. Probably bedding for 300¥ for bedding. The rest is food. Normally you find an apartment close to the school n just walk. The apartment you will know how much is needed once you know the city
@@MfanaKaMshengu 4000¥ for food, what are y'all eating? I think that's alot of money for food for a month in China
@@cheryl-janem8794 indeed it is for food but first month you atleast need one pot and bedding which can cost close to 1000¥ as you will probably buy these things at rt mart because you do not have a local bank account as yet nor. Some will need a few rmb to request didi to work for instant I use 10¥ in the morning to request to work but I walk home after school. So this is just the avg to be safe.
Do you have any feedback for Studio education - what it’s like to work for them?
Nope I haven’t heard of them honestly 🤔
Is it too much to ask if I ask for a minimum of 14k RMB after tax AND accommodation (fully furnished with basic appliances - I could compromise on the appliances though) plus a minimum of 1 meal for working days plus health insurance plus fully paid winter and summer holidays plus end of contract bonus plus flight reimbursement, plus paid medical check up when I get to China and of course paid Visa??
Thing is I'm on an EXTREMELY TIGHT budget and I don't want to incurre any expenses in China, I just want to dress up and show up for work with a little hassle as possible. On the other hand I don't want to drop the ball for us South Africans, we've got to maintain our worth, I totally understand that but if I have to compromise on anything, it would be salary for me. I'd be willing to go a little lower on salary, to say about.. 12k if it's necessary because I absolutely need these benefits for my my survival in China especially as a first timer.
So please advise if I would be asking for too much if I asked for this package and if it's okay, for which tier City?
Eg if it would be too much for tier 2 but okay for tier 1 for example.
I'm sorry for the essay but I really need your advice 👏🏽
If you work in kinder you will have your meal compulsory, health insurance is a must for the school to provide for you in terms of Chinese expat regulations.
14k is the minimum and ok for t2 and t3 cities. In t1 cities I doubt they will even offer you such unless they robbing you.
Things to negotiate is full pay during holidays and your flight reimbursement. Most apartments com furnished anyways. Just look for a place where you walk to work. Otherwise 14k after tax is a good starter but always negotiate for 18k don’t just go to 14. If they ask how much you want just say 18-20
Thanks a million, I really appreciate your patience and insightful feedback.
Heita. What agency can i used my brother?
Never used any agency, I always prefer referrals so I’ve worked in schools where other teachers worked before that I know. However the best agent is “totally teach” check them on LinkedIn
Hie mshengu are the Zimbabweans allowed
Nope buli only South Africans in China,,
Im actually looking at 18000 rmb mna😂😂😂😂 clearly bazothi ngiyabadakelwa... 😮😮
You may get it nje a school that pays and don’t mind usually start from around 18k
Thanks for the info. How did you find your agent when you were applying for the job?
I’ve never used an agent before honestly I always choose schools of people I already know who work there. That how I role but I do have trusted contacts on wechats of agents some of my friends have used. Holla on Facebook or linkin Mpumelelo Mshengu. I will send em
Please brother told me how
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Hi Mpume, please do you know if schools in China accept the Teacher Record TEFL Certificate?
Yep
Is it a good idea to apply for a job that would not apply for the work visa for you from China but would provide the necessary documents for you to apply for the visa on your own? Also, please do you have an idea of how to identify a recruiter who is a scammer?
Recruiters that ask you to come to China without an invitation letter , or those that ask for money. The best way is just to use recruiters with already good reviews from other teachers. Some schools now make you do everything yourself they just guide you on paper work once you are here.
Hi
Who pays for the visa? The school or me?
Most schools pay for everything, they will say pay for everything yourself but keep the receipts and they do a refund for you once here. Most even in China they do everything once you in China but a few still want you to pay even here for visa and they do a refund of everything. So just ask the school during the interview on such arrangements if they don’t mention it.
Hey
With a diploma and pgce …can I apply 🥺
Will I get a visa
It strictly say Bachelors degree than pgce kuba I extra n pave way for more money. Uma ungenza b tech coz khona engimaziyo who works with it plus pgce.
@@MfanaKaMshengu thank you ❤️
What work can someone who has no college degree do in china my brother
None besides just doing business in exports of products and sell back home
Ok thanks brother
30k rmb is the base.
Only if you come from the west or look like them. Even so they still don’t get that as a base in their first contract most of them.
Wayibeka yacaca Donga LwaMavuso.
Kumele nje. Sizele mali la
Hello sir,I'm a grade 12 learner and I Ned help with university application in china
Honestly I have not much knowledge of that but I will ask former graduates that studied in China I know a few actually from mzansi
Inbox me on Facebook “mpumelelo mshengu
@@MfanaKaMshengu okay no problem
Can Ghanaians secure a teaching job in china.
They can’t legally. Only South Africans are allowed legally in Africa.
How to apply for teaching in china
My latest video has some agencies I recommend. They on LinkedIn
Hi, I am sorry for coming back again. Is 8000 rmb a good salary in Changchun, Jilin province for a first time teacher coming from outside China? If it is not, what is the minimum the teacher should ask for? I can’t really find information about this online which is why I have to bother you.
Thank you in advance
Changchun is a t2 city. You can live comfortably with 6k rmb. However that salary is way too low for t2 so they are not giving you justice on that contract. I do encourage people to accept atleast 14k after tax in any city of t2 and t3. Plus do they give you housing allowance and how much? T2 accommodation ranges from 2000-4000 depending on size mostly. I would never advice anyone to sign for anything below 14k .
@@MfanaKaMshengu Thank you very much
How much did you end up getting paid? Thanks in advance.
14000 what?
¥
Bro can you do your masters there?
Yes you can but you can’t study while working, that just how this sides gov works. What other teachers do is study with various international institutions online while working here. If you asking purely for studying than yes you can
@@MfanaKaMshengu Thank you for being so informative. I think I'd rather do my masters here at home then fly over when I am done with everything. My only concern is that the salary that is earned as of now might actually decrease as more and more teachers are being employed that side, which means of course China won't be desperate anymore.
@@MfanaKaMshengu Also how true is it that when you have B. Ed you don't need to acquire the TEFL certificate as you already have the skills and knowledge teaching training
@@morenamsimango true indeed. However it best just to have both I mean tefl can cost you as little as r200
@@morenamsimango you are going to do masters by course work or just with research only? If it just research you can just finish yours while here. That what I did with mine, I concluded and submitted everything while I was here
How are you able to teach kids when you don't know the native language - Mandarin?
There is always a local teacher in class required to be there especially in lower grades. So they translate where there is misunderstanding or if needs be
Hi bhuti, I hope you are well. Thank you so much for this video, very informative ❤. I got an offer or 7k RMB after tax and accomodation is paid for.
I am currently doing my Honors and i have 3 years tutoring experience. Can you please help me get a school that will at least pay 14k+ rmb.
I almost took the offer but your video changed the game, amd thank you Mshengu
They crazy indeed , holla me on LinkedIn or Facebook Mpumelelo Mshengu . I will send some agents
@@MfanaKaMshengu Hi, may I also holla at you?
Mfoka Mshengu mfwethu ngyakuzwa mina
What's your facebook user name??
Mpumelelo Mshengu I’m on Facebook n LinkedIn