Why SoD is TERRIBLE
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Why SoD is TERRIBLE 
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Xaryu: I love sod!
Also xaryu:
Pretty much every content creator 😂
I feel like people want EXACTLY what Xar's explaining from @0:42 (myself included)
Blizzard, just focus on expanding the existing classic world (100+ new quests, zones, dungeons, raids. This or that storyline but from another PoV...).
Maybe there's hidden deep caves in the Barrens you can explore with quests inside, a few secret dungeons you can access through a maze in Burning steppes, a new door you can open in BRD ...etc. Doors or zones that are still closed to this day in the "vanilla" world. I'm sure back in the days there were abandoned projects than blizzard can use.
But don't touch classes. Mage healers, rogues tanks... cmon now.
And let us discover it. No beta, no spoilers. Just a 30s teaser. Let us find the new locations, so it feels like OG vanilla (kinda).
at this point ... just play turtle wow
Yeah, sounds perfect. Very quickly realized SOD wasn't for me. Being able to discover little new things on the road to 60 would be awesome as opposed to being railroaded to getting insanely overpowered new spells that cost no mana to use. The puzzles/detours to unlock the spells were actually fine, just the rewards I didn't agree with.
Some classes really needed love to make them playable. That's just the truth.
@@pallyrulzz I have to agree. There needs to be SOME changes to classes, or else why would anyone roll anything but warrior half the time?
I do get OP's point though, SoD classes seem.. silly? I know that's not objective in the slightest, but that's just what it seems to me having not played. I've not played just because it's not the kind of content I think I'd enjoy. I think having crazy classes is probably fine if you imagine SoD as a testing ground, which honestly I think is what they're using it for. To see what sticks before releasing something that's not seasonal, or at least something longer term.
@@Polterbun Yeah there are definitely some things they added that didn't appeal to me. I always understood that this was a testing ground for any Classic + endeavor they may take.
Your first rant nailed it. I didn't want a totally different game and they changed wayyyyyyyy too much. It felt like some random players mod pack. No thanks
Its Just a testing ground, relax
@@gx92mucand what exactly are they testing? So far they've thrown a lot of stuff into the game that is far from what classic wow is about and made the most broken version of wow we've ever seen, incursions, runes, loot, class balance/uniqueness has all been a massive failure so far. I think a large majority of the people who enjoy classic vanilla and who wanted classic + had none of that stuff in mind, most people i've spoken to about it wanted small fixes to meme specs to make them viable and new content.
@@gx92muc id rather be a customer for a legit product than a ginnie pig for a garbage one. Why waste my time?
@@paintingsbypancowhy waste time complaining about a game you're not playing supposedly
@@2o3ief stopped in phase 3 because I recognized it was trash so SoD videos pop up in my feed. I value the dream of a proper classic+ someday so I'm giving my feedback. feedback does not mean complaining my friend. Learn that or prepare to be offended your whole life.
For classic plus, we wanted the NORMAL GAME, but with New Armor Tiers for classes that were underpowered, we wanted new dungeons, and we wanted different BGs. That's it.
Nobody or their grandma asked for Daily Quests.
So you wanted 2-4 weeks worth of content... Sure.
This isn’t classic+ lol
Go and play turtle wow
@@bloodteeyeah that server seems to be the best in terms of new content, havent played enough to actually run the new instances but just looking at videos they look legit
We = I
Incursions were absolute dog sh1t. People having 5 level 50s and over 1500g by the end of P3 launch weekend is very unclassic-like. The damage was done and you can't reverse such a catastrophe failure of fukcery.
SoD was unclassic long before phase 3
this wasnt supposed to be classic... they already have that son
@@steadychasingmoneybands6213 its seasonal classic server lol wdym its not supposed to be classic? lol
ok so nothing about gameplay. just economy complaints its pretty standard
the only thing that will save SoD is what happens at level 60 end game, I'm waiting for Karazhan Crypts. Classic+ wasn't supposed to change the level 1-60 experience it was supposed to add new dungeons/raids and zones at end game, such as Karazhan, Hellfire Peninsula, Emerald Dream, and Hyjal (all of which were supposed to be in the original Vanilla, but they pushed them into TBC) Classic+ was basically supposed to be the end game after Naxx, without a level cap increase and without an expansion.
If that’s what you want you should seriously consider turtle wow, they are doing all of that stuff. Lower Kara (10), Emerald Sanctum, Kara 40(new tier3.5-coming in next patch) class changes, etc.
Naxx gear is hella op, its already breaking the balance of the game. You dont want more of that.
Nightmare incursions were the nail in the coffin for me. It felt way too hyperactive for it to be considered classic. Now it's getting bloated like retail. SOD is done.
yea i wanted to enjoy the game leveling like in old days even if it is just dungeon spam/questing but incursions ruined it here run in a circle over and over and you get 50...
In Retail it feels like the journey to max lvl is rushed like absolute madness. In Vanilla you had more freedom during your path to 60, heck if you wanted to you could level up entirely by killing boars. The Incursions gave that same feeling of "Get to lvl cap ASAP" same shit as in retail. Get to max lvl so you can spend some money in the shop. Gotta get in those gdkps somehow right.
incursions are gone for phase 4 which is cool
@@Eskoxo blame wow community for that. SOD team had been paying attention to what the community wanted, and the biggest thing was levelling was too slow. I remember people bitching about it on forums, in chat and even in my guild.
@@imnackeredsirnackered948 it wasnt incursions lol it was gdkps
If they plan on doing classic+, they needed to do SoD to see how far they can push it and gauge player reactions. This is an experiment.
A failed one
@@ocanica3184 Experiments fail all the time, that’s how you learn, readjust, and improve. Try it some time.
Thats a speculation
not wrong but everyone will still go about comparing it to vanilla and so on the season of (Discovery!) part does not register in a majority of brains sadly. failed experiment or not its just a test game.
@@eNv3n0mX Did you skip the literal first word of my comment?
I think people THINK they wanted small changes to vanilla, but what they actually wanted was a game that's not solved. And I appreciate that SoD tried to give us that. The problem with SoD is that blizz doesn't care to fix basic issues like bots, gold buyers, layering, or preventing reductive strategies in the new world PvP events.
The biggest problem with SoD was making us wait 8 months for level 60...
100%
they wanted to milk us, glad i quit in p1
Jesus, people can't reach lvl 60 still? i left before phase 2 begin.
they needed time to develop sod, next season they do sod they probably will make 1 month max per lvling phase
That was definitely NOT one of the bigger issues with SoD
"maybe buff shadow priests abit" 😂
with wow ascension the mana storms are just great wish sod would looks at them lol
The best thing that has came up from SoD is the faction balance system, that will surely be used in future servers (maybe a Fresh when the "Classic cycle" ends) so the min-maxing morons don't turn all PvP servers into single faction pseudo-PvE servers.
Sod is terrible copium all around!
NO GDKP's I'm OUTTA HERE.
Can we just have plain vanilla again please?
I wanted turtle wow classic + they gave me vanilla retail
I'd honestly be surprised if I was alone with that opinion, but I started playing WoW with TBC and TBC has been my favorite xpac since then, and that didn't change after playing TBC Classic. However, I did play WoW Classic when it released and leveled to 60, but it was clear to me that while it was fun, I'd not be doing it again. It just takes a huge amount of time and playing an Enhancement Shaman was really, really underwhelming. I was auto hitting and totem twisting. So I was really excited about the announcement of TBC Classic because it would bring some nice changes to the classes that gave them a few more mechanics and actual gameplay, at least to some extent. I do think that they went a little too far with SoD, but just implementing new dungeons or raids at 60 and tweaking a few classes here and there would not have made me play the game again because it wouldn't change much about the fact that you're basically going to press 3 buttons for the next hundreds of hours. SoD was what gave me the entertainment in Classic gameplay that I was looking for, so I'm actually quite happy. Please don't hate me.
TBC is the classic plus that people talk of. They just don't realise it yet
Don't listen to the negativity farmers currently. Just have fun the way you see it. People are losing their minds over a video game as if it was their whole life -- which hopefully it isn't to all the players
What you said makes perfect sense!
Not alt frendly since need to walk around the world each time for each rune , bots,min/max. Rest is great.
If you are looking for anything that is alt friendly, then classic WoW including season of discovery is not for you and you are missing the point why classic WoW (including SoD) even exist.
@@ecogreco Dont know about you but in classic i had over 10 alts. It is not hard to have alts if you wont go raiding with all of them. Raids are 7 day cd. There is plenty of time to lvl up alts and if you know the fast ways you can have milion of them. All have fun with different things. Point of gaming is to have fun. For me atleast. Also everybody i know have few alts and had them in classic and in sod.
@@andrejcagalj4089 I wasn't talking about having alts, just the expectation that having 10 different alts you can just rush to endgame content.
SoD is garbage because the GM's are garbage. They have no clue at all how to balance or give the players what they're looking for to keep them around. I am a WoW addict; however, I think WoW deserves to flounder. Who really plays SoD and says "Wow, Shamans are very balanced and in a good spot!"
If every class in the game was completely balanced, what's the point in classes then? Everything is balanced so everyone is equally good at everything? Game would be absolute dogwater..
@@jiipo3 Agreed, but shamans are a massive outlier in comparison to all other class'. Just watch some SoD streams in WSG to see them get gibbed nonstop by shaman stacked teams.
xaryu hit it spot on, minor balancing changes to classes with new dungeons/ raids is what i really wanted. sod turned into cata bait after phase 1
Prolly they ll add more content in sod if it stays popular. My problem with SOD is not related to new abilities and class balance or itemization, is about the way ppl play it now, pumping and gate keeping all the way making it another form of "retail". One personal thing I don t like in sod is the fact that I can t do anything solo, not even queue bg s. Your queue will never pop unless u are in a group...
exactly right my dude. we wanted new classic content. not a complete rework of class design and play style. tbh, im a Ret main in classic, all i wanted was an actually dps set of gear with hit rating and dps stats that was leather or our of AQ40 lol. iono why they decided to just rework play style of all classes as if is was modern wow, kinda killed the fun
Clasic plus is turtle wow this crap assencion rip off is a stupid idea.
OOOO YA ID SWIPE 99$ to Play a DH to have them end SOD
I agree with your take on classic + abilities, new ones are fun but im dialed in on the OG classic classees.
i like the idea of sod but they really messed up the classes some i been really enjoying cata again kinda crazy
I was thinking like giving some taunts or kicks to certain classes and more content. The thing about level up raids is it is kind of retail a bit because in retail raids are useless after a phase. They did need to give us stuff to do which makes sense but at the same time it feels wrong.
Classic fans were living in la la land if they thought Blizzard would pump real art resources into a vanilla.
Nightmare incursions killed it for me. Couldn’t force myself to play that trash
Never played it!
Knew it was bad!
I've been playing since launch, share the same sentiments:
What I wanted:
- Elemental Shamans were worthless, I didn't play all classes but other classes had crappy gear, certain classes were pretty useless endgame
- Crafting recipes didn't really compete, crafting needed to be important
- New dungeons/raids
- slight story tweaks, easter eggs, to existing areas
- balance out PvP, like all the needed was like a 2nd Insignia of the horde type item to make it more balanced
- Overhauled dungeon mechanics which we did get, so that was really nice
- Better guild tools like guild banks, or guild stats, leaderboards, etc in game
What I got:
- Open world pvp shuts down questing in those zones
- Way too many abilities
- Daily quests
- Economy is out of whack
Meanwhile me at retail still waiting to get tank spec on my lock. So I actually could play M+.... not just rejecting
I called it from season 1. They changed too much balance. It was completely unnecessary. It shouldve just been new content and very very subtle itemisation tier additions
I didn't play SoD at all, but honestly if they just added new raids/dungeons and small class changes I would definitely have subbed to play it
that would require actual development not just smash in stuff from other expansions.
As long as human male ret paladins were still bad, I'd play too
I was really hoping for an azshara bg
SOD = not classi+ its retail-
the most important thing that WoW: Classic+ needs isn't new raids, new content, new classes, new races, or even balance changes, though those are definitely important
the most important thing is it not being made by modern-day blizzard or a comparably bad developer
forreal ur speaking facts. that video is either troll or made by a goofy
Azamous is the goat hahaha
GDKP HYPE! SOD HYPE! CLASSIC HYPE!
Turtle wow is so far ahead, give that a go. It's everything you are talking about
in my mind classic plus was supposed to be sideways content, more level 60 raids etc.
there's so much undeveloped areas in wow classic that could have been new raids.
modern blizzard simply doesn't get classic wow
SoD is just retail with classic graphics which is why most classic players don’t like it imho
well said xaryu, agreed.
Well now they know what people want, what works, and what doesn't - hopefully the next Classic iteration is more in line with what damn near everyone wanted.
I def play Death Knight in SoD
I quit few mos ago, the power creep ruined pvp. Coming out of hc, i was excited for bgs again
sod is ntot classic + its retail -
yeah i agree i always thought that the concept behind classic + was taking your character at level 60 and progressing them onto something else instead of doing TBC, like a full expansion worth of dungeons and raids and new zones to explore but all still at level 60 with new gear, quests and just extending everything but not really changing much at all in terms of how each class works. Seems all they did in SOD was mess around with class abilities and only giving us a very small sample of newer raids. I'm totally over SOD, phase one was great fun but everything was a tedious bore.
For me classic + is just new areas, both for leveling and end game content, new dungeons in those new areas or some fun new piece of content that will stay there forever if good; new raids that doesn't turn the old raids into dead content and of course no level cap increase. Also some balancing and stuff but the main point of classic + for me is keeping the vanilla experience always fresh with new content but without destroying the previous content that's already in the game, keeping the core of vanilla wow there. SoD is more like a funfest to experiment on random stuff and changes a lot of the original experience. Just look at osrs and what they did there.
The funny thing is people would ABSOLUTELY pay a hundo bucks to play a DK or DH.
yea can you imagine you come in owning all the poor peasants with your DK/DH laughing
Yeah, new dungeons, new raids with minor tweeks was what was Desired over all.
that would require actual development time and not just mashing in already created things from other expansions.
Xaryu is right, people are playing SOD because they want to play something new. All we have gotten so far from a PVE standpoint is revamped old raids.
People dont understand that this is just a test to see what people like and what dont, its not a final new game, relax guys
Its Blizzards attempt at getting people Back unto retail
Once I saw made mage healer and rogue tank, I didn't bother playing.
Classic + with minor balance changes and just some dungeons and raids would be completely unraveled in 2 months, 3 tops.
A true Classic + for me would be a totally new game, happening just after Wrath of the Lich King.
A timeline where Tirion Fordring strucks The Helm of Domination instead of Frostmourne in the final clash with Arthas at Icecrown Citadel. Arthas is released from Ner'zhul control.
There is no more Lich King, the Scourge goes rampant. A new villain emerges and tries to control it. Could be the burning Legion or a powerful Scourge character.
Arthas is back and fights alongside us, seeking redemption for his Sins.
Arthas would attempt to take Lordaeron back, which could be a raid.
The peak WoW lore and our favorite character in a story retold.
That man got it ! 😂😂 👍
imo sod is almost perfect only really bad thing that i absolutely hate was incursions it just ruins the whole appeal of classic
Its not perfect runes are awful this is classic no retail... Rogue in dun morogh get mutilate who cost 40 energy and gain 2 combo points this is okay??? If u okay with this should go play retail, people want minor changes class no like this... Ofc incursions destroy everything but lets be real pvp is awful, just why server are dead. In next phase people back for month maybe 2 and will be the same they complety no handle pvp with new runes overall Sod is only for pve players and parses, im not hater but this is reality. If u enjoy glad to you but most people who like pvp no play this at all :) good luck
@@Zajedwabisty124 idk where pvp came into this but im only talking about pve and i misspoke before i meant its almost perfect for me including all the flaws classic wow to me is the best mmo ever made but i could also sit here and list off all the flaws ive never really played pvp in sod besides doing the bloodmoon event for gear also if your comparing sod to retail then your just crazy its nothing like retail at all not even close its literally just basically classic +
@@Zajedwabisty124Go back to era buddy.
@@Zajedwabisty124 If you don't want any changes just go play Era...
Also how do you know how PvP feels when we haven't even reached 60 yet? Or you think they spend hundreds of hours to make pvp competitive at low levels... Just like how some specs require certain gear, it's the same with PvP balance. If they are going to do some serious balancing it's going to be at max level where we will spend half a year at.
Personally I enjoy PvP and I would enjoy it a lot more at 60.
SoD have A LOT of flaws, but overall it's been great and it's literally putting the ground for an actually good upcoming Season or even Classic +(although I'd expect at least another like 1-2 more seasons before they get all the groundwork done for Classic +).
The reality is that SOD is paving the way for Classic + if there ever is going to be one and without this, even if there was Classic + eventually it would be in years without us being able to play anything meanwhile(at least nothing new). Personally I prefer to go through few such seasons then to just wait for something(that might never come).
Of course crybabies that are minority, but seem to be really vocal might offput Blizzard from doing Classic +, so I guess keep crying if you want to never get any Classic +.
@@Ghandii Its not Classic + is beta test or minigame. For you add random spells from other expac is classic+?. I think you are an undemanding person but good for you. Dont think they should add something new like new map or dungeon? :D , they just copy pasta do minimal effort. This is not 3 people in basement father - is million dollar company you remember this? . I just say people from private servers do more compare to blizzard. (I no play private just like to track Private scene) Cheers This is only my opinion no hate.
Xarbad jumping on the sodbad bandwagon but still going to play it just like catashitlysm.
All that xaryu is talking about and wants, turtle wow has. Best vanilla+ server
Classic Era population: 17,551
Season of Discovery population: 28,556
People like those changes. Each class is now viable and you don’t have to take 10+ warriors to raids. Yes, people wanted new content but the WB/dps consumables meta massively ruined the game. Golden time in Era was 2019/2020
I think Mage Healer and Shaman Tank is great and fits. But Rogue tanks is way to much...
Warlock is maybe arguable...but yeah
If a mage can heal why can’t a priest cast a fireball
the effort required to somewhat balance classic classes in a "good" way, I believe, is substantially more effort than just throwing in random abilities from various expansions. Like make shadow viable in pve without absolutely breaking the spec in pvp and so on and so forth. It ain't easy. Also if changes to classes are somewhat minimal, you naturally would expect more changes to the game world like new content and such.
Season of Discovery is essentially the Retail version of Classic WoW. It isn't the Classic+ most wanted. Remember though, Blizzard planned for this failure. That's why it launched as a seasonal mode. This was a test for when they actually launch Classic+. They are (hopefully) recognizing the failure.
Xar said it perfectly here--most people wanted Classic exactly as it was, just with new dungeons, new raids, and then implement minor buffs to the weak classes. Look, there's a reason people are flocking to Deviate Delight just to get a "fresh" Classic server experience. Blizz doesn't need to recreate the wheel with Classic+, they need to keep the old wheel spinning and go from there.
And dual spec....
The comment at the beginning about what people wanted from Classic+ was 100% correct. Lazy Blizzard giving the classes abilities from other expansions just goes to show how out of touch the devs were.
I completely agree with you. Just make Vanilla with new dungeons, new raids, little class balance, and new gear. That’s all they would have have to do. Fail!
exactly my take. I don't care for all these class changes and add-ons. All i wanted was new enemies, new dungeons, some new questlines and new gear (that isn't re-colours). I've seen private servers implement all these things within a few months without any funding. From what I can tell the old version of WoW isn't exactly difficult to change compared to the more recent stuff.
0:50 SOOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOOOORING
Holy sh1t classic andys like to cry about everything, specially that Azamous
I love SoD the way it is now, its sad to see other players dont feel that way. So many specs were dead in vanilla and druid was a wasted class. In SoD blizz gave a very much needed balance update which sure kinda killed pvp but pve felt great. Currently playing as a full BiS moonkin and having the time of my life in sunken temple. I'm truly sad to think about what will come after SoD because I doubt I will have as much fun as I am having now
WoW community has always been a bunch of doomers and complainers.
They ignored the hybrid tax in SoD which is why hybrids are ridiculous in PvP now. The hybrid tax existed in vanilla for a good reason regarding class balance so to actively ignore it is as low brow as it gets. remove DPS meters and maybe people wouldn't cry so much for their hybrid class to be #1 on the DPS charts. it truly does destroy the game
@@paintingsbypanco hybrid tax is what made vanilla bad, forcing priests, shamans, and druids to heal while mages , rogues, warriors and warlocks had all the fun. I went holy pally on whitemane when classic first launched because how many specs were utterly useless. If you wanted to be a god at pvp, had to go mage or rogue. 0 variety
@@Convescation I think you just have a very narrow metric of what matters in the game, and that seems to be DAMAGE! I played paladin and loved playing as a hybrid because of how powerful you could be for any situation. If this wasn't taxed paladins would be gods. Get your head outta the DPS me me me meters and start playing your class as it was intended to fill the gaps of your team mates weaknesses. Classic is loved and goated for a reason and part of that reason is its the only version of the game that enforces the hybrid tax
@@paintingsbypanco all I want is for every spec to be viable, and that wasn't achieved in vanilla, which is fine because vanilla era still exists. Every spec is viable in SoD and Retail which is 👍 so everyone wins , play what you want to play
SOD just proved a point that why retail will be always the mainstream of this game. It doesn’t matter how much you rebrand some old content or adding new elements to it. Old content is always old content, once that 15 minutes excitement will be gone, it will always be just another piece of old contents.
Who asked for Rogue tanks? Who asked for healing Mages? Who asked for Shockadins? No one. I quit day one phase 3, it was just to much Retail Minus.
i kinda want healing warrior but they ignore my requests
1:59 ITS NOT CLASSIC ITS CLASSIC PLUS YOU ARE LITERALLY SOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOOORINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Dual spec, new doungens like they did it…. Would be awesome
Dual spec is already not Classic though, what next, flying mounts?
@@ocanica3184how tf being able to switch between for example your pve/pvp spec and not paying 50g is ruining your “true vanilla experience”?
I played rogue back in 2019classic and I’ve never even pvped just because of that enormous fee
@@SaltyRain1 Let's see, the one with cheap respecs and other retail conveniences is dead. The one that remained true to Classic is thriving. Pretty much answers your question
@@ocanica3184 lol than stay on era forever, what’s your problem? Why do you even bother to post smtg.
And I’m pretty sure many people will come back in phase 4
@@ocanica3184 and say that classic era has more player base than retail and that’s retail is dead 😂
I stopped playing the SoD when it deviated too much from the original classic.
Good lord dont give Blizz any ideas. They would do this and people would buy it. You store mount Andys know who you are 🤡
Who can still watch this streamer unironically? wtf
Okay but just because something was a class of a hero doesn’t make it special. Priests were a unit but priests are just as strong of a concept as any other class. And Illidan was a demon hunter but warlocks have 2 of his spells and priests got mana burn. So it’s meaningless when every “hero class” role and niche is already filled by another class. Hence why DKs and Warlocks both have “death coil”
As an MMO,yes,is terrible.
sod is fun, idk why people love to hate on everything wow does.
1:35 your mind does not speak for the majority
the only problem is balance tuning which is really easy all they have to do is play the game to tell which classes are doing the most too much and which classes are doing the least and make it work
For example frost mage slows and stuns need to be reduced
warriors are getting destroyed in pvp and pve
spriests are way too strong
boomkins are way too strong
The game works its just balance that everyone craves
sod worst version of wow i have ever played
Just give us new vanilla servers plss
classic+ is way diffrent from what sod is abou, they made sod to experment as a new thing not as classic+
this shouldent be compaird to anything really, its either you like it or dont :p
You got era, retail and sod. I prefer sod and if ppl prefer era or retail just play it. Such a work just to bash a version od the game it almost became "cool" to do it.
Turtle wow did classic+ better. Few needed class changes and 2 new raids, 7-8 new dungeons.
Maybe a little less in the class buffing and more in the dungeon/raid department... That being said, I think anyone who complains about mage healers, shaman tanks or warlock tanks. New stuff that make the game more interesting, are just fighting what would make an overall better game. Is the balancing off. Yes. Are the classes more fun to play... YES!
Sod is shit. Everything is a cheap imitation. Classic plus is just about new content. The dungeons, zones and raids they didnt release. No changes. When the fk are blizzard gonna wake up?! Give us fresh, we want fresh!
They gave us fresh a couple years ago, I love vanilla wow but it's been beaten to a dead horse. I don't know why people still want to play through the old content over and over. Just let it die man.
@@peateargriffen36 because the other versions of the game are complete dogshit.
as someone who plays other games sod and classic are both pure shit. its a outdated game that needs to die to let others though.
Sod rules IMO
we know you think so degen shill see you on every video
Ahh shid here we go again . copium video time
I said SOD was going to kill classic the moment i saw what they were doing. Retail is too much bc there’s too many spells. Instead what they should have done is revamp the graphics in classic wow. That would have been sick. Then the next iteration add content. But stick to the core of classic wow don’t change really anything at all
Classic was special bc each class had an identity. Retail every class is essentially the exact same
Same here, been saying it since P1. Too many changes. SoD is not Classic+, never was.
A lot of classes did need more love in classic though. They could've chilled a bit with it, but adding some stuff was needed.
@@tomriggs699 Did you just now say that Season of Disovery isn't Classic +? Let me repeat it again. Season of Discovery is not Classic +? Shieeet and here I thought that SOD acronym stands for Classic +, but spelled in a weird way.
If you aren't getting what I'm saying, it's that literally NO ONE said it's Classic +. People said it might pave the way for Classic + as a learning experience, but no one ever said it's Classic +. Anyway off you go back to Era and spamming 11111111111 for outstanding gameplay. /facepalm
@@xingbairong the irony of your comment is there is literally a clip of xaryu saying "it's classic plus"
@@comrade_raptorUnless I'm missing something and Xaryu represents Blizzard, I don't see any "irony" in anything, because Blizzard is the only one that can say "this is classic +". I guess I underestimated the IQ of the people commenting when I wrote "no one" expecting people to figure out that I'm talking about Blizzard employees, since they are the only ones that can tell you what their product is and it's not and not random people who have absolutely nothing to do with the company or the product. My bad. Next time I'll try to be really descriptive, so that I don't have to respond to stupid comments like this one.
Also at Blizzcon, Blizzard tried to imply a Classic +, but at the end of the day they made it clear it's Season of Discovery and not Classic +. If you wanted to act smart you should've at least tried to somehow make that work instead of saying "oh some guy that have nothing to do with the company said it's Classic +, so... gatcha".
I can't believe it, but I have to end this reply with /facepalm as well.
Its too late to save season of disc.
classic wow is terrible?.. what a surprise
point that incursions are bad is okay, but I don’t get why can’t you have fun playing how YOU like it? I levelled to 50 and never tried a single incursion run because that seems too sus for me, and people just abuse it and then start crying like “I CANT PLAY LIKE I WANT TO BECAUSE I PLAY LIKE BLIZZARD WANTS ME TO”, but no one forces you to play it like that, you choose what to do in the game, so blame yourself too if you fall in this trap and choose to stay there and repeat eating that.. don’t wanna use strong language. If you feel “stupid” playing classic how it originally used to, then you have been fooled by social dummies who wants just to speedrun everything and then sit and wait for miracle to happen. That means that classic simply is not for you. That’s my point, yea SoD has problems, but community has it too. A big problems with how they want to play the game, but not the company. If you continue to eat their dishes, they will bring you more alike. That’s the point. People left sod after abusing incursions 3 phases straight and then blizzard made them daily, if people boycotted them since p1-p2 or whenever they came, maybe blizzard could have changed their mind about them. What about them adding new content, it’s simply not profitable for company itself, they can’t charge you any money for effort they put in, that’s how it works in our days, maybe if they make it like new “expansion” then yea, but it seems sus for their PM that people will pay for new content in an old game again. That’s it. Simple and sad. Just live with it. To play or not to play is only your choice, and also HOW to play is your choice too. Peace.
It's called turtle wow bro 😂
*cough* you meant WoW Ascension
New World-Exploration? Focus on interesting new quest-lines? New content in the Open World Please?
Nope, we got the spells and instanced content...
10000% agree with Xaryu. Its over-designed and over-delivered.
But my god the narrator. I can NOT STAND the way this guy talks. Something about it just gets under my skin. Does he think his viewers are toddlers? Like respect your viewers..
Blizzard is terrible.
How much of a fanboy can you be to never give up on them?