I knew these comments would be spicy. In Dean Potter fashion, I think its more important to acknowledge the accomplishment holistically rather than add labels for comparison to other sends. Accept the grey area folks, this was awesome and he deserves to call it whatever he wants
Very good video, is it a flash tho? I know that ethics are nebulous but nice for the footy to show the hanging/cleaning before, I think that this is the way to go; (even if you don't agree with been a flash or whatever)
Very cool video and very cool send. But you can't touch the holds and call it a flash. You can have all the beta you want but you can't have touched any of the route (except the starting holds).
So definition for bouldering is looser than sport. Every pro you see flashing this or that out there has 100% touched every grip they can reach from feet on the ground. The rule pros and most people have been playing by is that you can't pull yourself off the ground but its fair to weight the holds as much as possible without pulling off and still call it a flash. Ross made a video about this climb on his channel and at the end acknowledges that whatever you call it, it is important to just be clear on your method and tactics. Other top end climbers doing very hard high balls 1st try or doing 'flash' first ascents have also been doing similar tactics to Ross for safety reasons, often boulders like this don't get repeats and will need chalk and cleaning, or if its an FA obviously it needs cleaning. Nathaniel Coleman did a 'flash' FA in the Swell in the last year or so with same tactics. A lot of other people bring ladders out and touch stuff they couldn't otherwise reach but wont fully weight the hold. For better or worse the best climbers tend to set the trends and with boulder flashing it seems to be drifting from ground touching only to touching with gear but not weighting, as Ross did here.
@@Emil_Ortizthe definition of a flash is pretty unambiguous. Those aren’t examples. Neither is sussing the moves on tr. dangerous or not. Everyone doesn’t get a gold medal.
Wait why was that espresso shot at the start going to get you banned from the coffee community? And that quote about Dean Potter falling 20 feet off that and limping around for days.
Just jumping back to this comment section to let you know that I fumbled my morning shot of espresso after I wrote this and I’m feeling remorse because I’m not going to climb shit today and my coffee sucks
even if he used a rope and felt every hold it could be a flash, but that much pulling on does not line up with what i personally consider a flash. either way, impressive climbing!
"I'm gonna flash this boulder"
*proceeds to climb the route on top rope weighting every hold and testing every body position*
I knew these comments would be spicy. In Dean Potter fashion, I think its more important to acknowledge the accomplishment holistically rather than add labels for comparison to other sends. Accept the grey area folks, this was awesome and he deserves to call it whatever he wants
really really enjoying all the fusis films projects. subscribed. all your work is super enjoyable to watch. keep it up!
Very good video, is it a flash tho? I know that ethics are nebulous but nice for the footy to show the hanging/cleaning before, I think that this is the way to go; (even if you don't agree with been a flash or whatever)
pulled on everyhold with feet not touching ground not a flash in my opinion
@@guustvanuden2968 yep, not a flash or onsight if you've climbed the moves. Maybe a pink or a brownpoint :)
@@jarfrobinksss brownpoint XD never heard that before
If you think this was a flash, you need to stop climbing
@@JimFu-e8k iF YoU ThInK ThIs wAs a fLaSh, YoU NeEd tO StOp cLiMbInG
Being under this boulder irl, it’s so much scarier than it looks on camera. Awesome send.
Irl finish you words
@ what?
@@ZerolinGD reread it if you didn't understand
@@JimFu-e8k “Irl finish your words” - I still don’t know what that means.
@ZerolinGD that's because you're stupid
I’m from Deans era…we would not call that a “Flash”, however, very nice send! 🙏🏾💪🏾
Very impressive. Clearly the moves were not to hard for you but what a mental challenge! And you cruised. Bravo.
Question: I saw Ross in Mallorca in October, if King Air was sent after, did he go DWSing to actually prep for the boulder?
Sick climb dude
Great job Ross
Sick vid. Not a flash tho🤙
It’s not a red point flash, but ground up first try even with beta is a flash.
@@12shawnb wrong🤙
I’m pretty sure he pulled on to some of the holds. So no flash
exact opposite of ground up
Not a flash.
Similar lines exist at Squamish. Still some projects there. Also at Arco. Not forgetting Bishop highballs....
Very cool video and very cool send. But you can't touch the holds and call it a flash. You can have all the beta you want but you can't have touched any of the route (except the starting holds).
no
@@LukeDeutschbauer actually he's right you know
So definition for bouldering is looser than sport. Every pro you see flashing this or that out there has 100% touched every grip they can reach from feet on the ground. The rule pros and most people have been playing by is that you can't pull yourself off the ground but its fair to weight the holds as much as possible without pulling off and still call it a flash. Ross made a video about this climb on his channel and at the end acknowledges that whatever you call it, it is important to just be clear on your method and tactics. Other top end climbers doing very hard high balls 1st try or doing 'flash' first ascents have also been doing similar tactics to Ross for safety reasons, often boulders like this don't get repeats and will need chalk and cleaning, or if its an FA obviously it needs cleaning. Nathaniel Coleman did a 'flash' FA in the Swell in the last year or so with same tactics. A lot of other people bring ladders out and touch stuff they couldn't otherwise reach but wont fully weight the hold. For better or worse the best climbers tend to set the trends and with boulder flashing it seems to be drifting from ground touching only to touching with gear but not weighting, as Ross did here.
@@Emil_Ortiz Thanks for the explanation. Very helpful. Seems like a slippery slope though :)
@@Emil_Ortizthe definition of a flash is pretty unambiguous. Those aren’t examples. Neither is sussing the moves on tr. dangerous or not. Everyone doesn’t get a gold medal.
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Wait why was that espresso shot at the start going to get you banned from the coffee community? And that quote about Dean Potter falling 20 feet off that and limping around for days.
lol ross is super into the elite espresso game with ideal extraction time, dialing the temp, the whole shebang so i guess he fucked something up?
I’m the coffee community and I’m here to shame you for thinking you can tamp to hard🤡
Just jumping back to this comment section to let you know that I fumbled my morning shot of espresso after I wrote this and I’m feeling remorse because I’m not going to climb shit today and my coffee sucks
even if he used a rope and felt every hold it could be a flash, but that much pulling on does not line up with what i personally consider a flash. either way, impressive climbing!
Coffee hipsters bouldering?, classic!
Was für ein Krieger ...
nice short film, wouldn't call it a flash though.
flashing v10 is crazy. flashing a v10 highball is just nuts.
Not a flash but nice send either way.
Your so stupid if you think this was a flash
Not a flash, but really cool
Another great effort ruined by saying 'lets go' at the end... so sad.
just let people be psyched lol
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