@@patagonia as the video sponsor, do you endorse the decision to edit a summit photo to remove other climbers? It seems like a very problematic precedent. Hard for me to see this incredible film as a documentary anymore.
This is so well made. Obviously the climb itself is peak performance for any mountaineer, but the story building, filming, editing, unique shots showing the intensity of the climb, balance of comedy and tragedy and suspense, etc. One of the best climbing films in a while. Well done.
After watching Devil's Thumb with Honnold and Caldwell with that mindblowing drone footage, it's a real treat to now watch this as insanely magnificent footage. Bravo!
Frick yeah. And awesome to see Vince sharing in the climb and experience. Old school keeping it alive. And Josh is such a stellar climber. And of course his actions are not social media, just putting up and sending routes in all styles.
I dont climb, never have climbed anything other than a tree. For some reason i CONTINUE to find myself transfixed and absolutely mesmerized by climbing vids. I dont kno why climbing vids are so mind boggling and gorgeous to me but i really appreciate the beauty that is being shared, i truly do.. I think maybe i was a climber in a former life... Anyway, thank you, very beautiful great video. This was very enjoyable to watch.
Josh & Vince blew my mind!! Such insane climbing. This overall story, and getting to know a little bit about these guys was just perfect. I can’t believe I got to watch this kind of content for free. Bravo to all involved in the making of this. It’s an absolute masterpiece❤
Wow. This mountain looks incredible, I've never seen one quite like that. And sleeping under the snow ridge! There's no hotel room in the world that compares to that. ❤
I only saw on Instagram that Alik Berg and Quentin Roberts summited the exact same moment and still wonder why they were edited out of the actual footage when this would be just a nice add on to the story. Can anyone explain that? I mean removing the people from the actual footage seems a lot of work for what?
very proud to see Vince on something like this - he leart me on RUclips the Quad Anchor for Iceclimbing - where i liked his coolness right a way - of both :-))
Incredible climb! I've been so psyched on this movie since I heard their podcast about the climb on the Cutting Edge. That ice roof is mad on such a big mountain!
Ultimate mountaineering movie! So amazing to witness this on a comfortable couch 😂 and so easy to forget how much skilled these guys are! Speechless. And the filming, and the music! It got it all. Thanks for sharing this (while writing this comment I paused at 29’56 and the drone shot of the summit is unreal)
Just watched this for the second time. What a fantastic film. Josh is such a low-key crusher, and Vince is Vince. What a legendary team to pull off this climb!
Big UP and Sender Films consistently make the best climbing films. Such a beautiful balance between objective and larger purpose in this one, wonderfully imagined by detailed character building. Great work!
Incredible climbing, and fantastic images. All together makes this documentary a marvel. Thank you for sharing this incredible experience. All my respect for these two masters
Like special Forces guys who've smoked a joint, Josh and Vince navigate through situations any mortal would find traumatising with an awareness that only comes from a person who's searched the soul. Being so close to the edge only seems to remind them they are alive. Toying with death means they control it. We all need to cope with death in some way, many avoid the idea, but some fight it; and in doing so grow as people. I was particularly impressed with the decision to back off when they knew it was too close, they are committed to their families, the greater cause for their lives, above all else. Yet this is more than two guys climbing a rock, it is an exploration and an expression of man's need to face mortality and suffering to overcome it. In this way, what they are doing is art, creative expressions of the soul to explore something meaningful and helpful. The filmmaking is equally as artistic and significant to the cause. I'm blown away at the capturing of these fascinating personalities, the history, even trauma, that drives the behaviour, juxtaposition of the dying mountain environment with the sense of overcoming, it is sensationalised but it needs to be. These feats and these movies are more than just glorified adverts on social media, they are creative expressions of people who are toying with deeply important existential issues and coming through it with insight that us viewers can harness to direct our own lives in the face of the same existential issues. So thanks for doing, creating and sharing, it means a lot.
26:05 "I see risk as a bank account, you make withdrawals through your life, you should only take a withdrawal if it is really rewarding or inspiring to you" . Wow what an incredible way of putting it, definitely see it in a different way now, and makes me feel way better about the times I chose to be safe. Definitely keeping that quote
It’s moments like these I’m really thankful for this kind of access to such amazing stories. Great tale of two nice guys doing cool shit in the mountains.
Herzliche Gratulation! Das war eine echt tolle Leistung von euch! Danke für euren Film und eure persönlichen Eindrücke! Berg Heil und schöne Grüße aus 🇦🇹 (Austria)!
Great job with the audio. Love to see the drone footage with the actual audio of the climb under it (or however you did that, maybe overdubs, but it sounded pretty real to me). Great film! Love to see Josh Lowell still cranking em out!
I've seen that mountain for the first time this year from the distance on Mururaju. It captures your attention like nothing else! What an insane climb!
I met Vince in the early 90’s in Crested Butte Co. We gave him the nickname “invincible”. I’m not much of a climber, but I’ve put more laps in the BLACK CANYON with a kayak than anyone. Any climbing that I have done was in the BLACK via kayak. I recognized him instantly, glad he’s getting it
I first met Vince back in the old 90s AMGA days when he was this young buzz saw and you could tell in the first five minutes that he was going places. Good to see you still gettin' after it, Vince. And yes, it's for sure not tennis! Congratulations on your little climb, guys (wink).
In August this year I camped in the valley below Jirishanca, marveling at the stunning mountain. I sat and wondered, is there a route up this in current conditions, and if so, who would go for it? Now we know. Congrats Josh and Vince, and thanks for inspiring us to keep getting after it in the Blanca and Huayhuash before these glaciers are gone.
Great movie but but the summit sequence is highly problematic, as it does not show the Canadians Alik Berg and Quentin Roberts reaching the summit at the same time via a different route. They seem to be ‘erased’ from the image, even though they appear at the same precise spot in the pics of the expedition report.🤔
Hi, it's the filmmakers from Reel Rock. Quentin and Alik's climb was incredible - it was honored with the Piolet D'or and deserves to be told as its own story. But for the story we set out to tell, of Josh and Vince's deeply personal, multi-year journey on Jirishanca, seeing an additional climber on the summit, who was only visible from some angles and not from others, during the emotional climax of the movie, was very distracting. It would have required a lot of explanation and new information about who he was and how he got there, during the last 30 seconds of the movie. So we made the creative decision to avoid showing Alik on the summit. We can see how some people might object to that decision, but as storytellers we are constantly making choices about what to include or omit as it's impossible to follow every thread. Certainly no disrespect to Quentin and Alik! We recommend reading their great write-up about their climb from the American Alpine Journal: publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13201216702
@@REELROCK1 There are clear guidelines for ethical documentary film-making. Not cutting dialogue mid-sentence to change its meaning, using footage out of context, using cuts/juxtaposition to falsely imply simultaneity or the perception of cause and effect, selective omission to change the narrative etc. etc. If that scene was causing confusion then a couple of those shots could have been removed from the final cut. That's an editorial choice. A tough choice to make, ethically, because it tells a different story. It simplifies the story, yes, but it also makes the mountain seem more remote, more badass. It puts the climbers alone on the pedestal, which is ironic after Josh's remarks earlier in the film. Deciding to use the footage anyway but remove the climbers is a bit different. That's not editorial anymore, that's completely removing the guarantee that the audience is viewing real footage. It goes beyond even the common case in the climbing media of passing a re-enactment off as footage of the original ascent. Altering images brings everything into question. Was anything else justifiably altered to look more badass? Were anchors edited out? Were cameramen edited out? Did seeing a helicopter confuse viewers? If we don't have the guarantee that we're looking at real documentary footage, then there's no guarantee that anything is real.
@@REELROCK1think that you have possibly got your priorities wrong. They didn’t do the climb so you can make a beautiful movie. You’re making a beautiful movie in order to document their climb. Your core audience are all established climbers / mountaineers - doesn’t it slightly insult their intelligence to suggest that a minor disctraction in the form of objective reality would undermine the project of documenting that reality? You’re film making is a creative project which must remain secondary to its aim as a document. You have placed your own aims and intentions as film makers at the pinnacle of your priority list which has enabled you to feel you can justify digitally altering out objective fact because it compromises your vision or what artistic integrity means in this context. Where does that stop? Will you edit out aid? Edit out bad weather? Edit in anything?
Hats off to Josh & Vince for such an incredible climb, and thanks to the film crew for putting together this masterpiece. What a story!
love your videos too bury
@@lucaspalacios2941 Thank you!!
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Love your videos andraz, big inspiration :-)
Man, drones have revolutionized how these movies look. That long shot at 27:17 is just mind bending
Best half hour of climbing content I've seen in awhile!!
I would have watched another 30 minutes easily.
absolutely metal, that shot of them on the summit is unreal. i can't even begin to imagine the downclimb
agreed, crazy shit mate
Just once, show us the damn downclimb!
There was another party on the summit at the same time but they edited them out. With that fact, those scenes become really strange.
Hi there, Reel Rock has responded to a similar comment below if you would like to learn more about the situation.
@@patagonia as the video sponsor, do you endorse the decision to edit a summit photo to remove other climbers? It seems like a very problematic precedent. Hard for me to see this incredible film as a documentary anymore.
This is so well made. Obviously the climb itself is peak performance for any mountaineer, but the story building, filming, editing, unique shots showing the intensity of the climb, balance of comedy and tragedy and suspense, etc. One of the best climbing films in a while. Well done.
Incredibly well-told story all around. Two badass, cool dudes. Loved every second!
That was fantastic and inspiring - all 40/50-something folks who love the mountains should watch this.
We couldn't agree more!
Exactly!
I want a Vince-approved playlist. Mad lad.
Is it dangerous? "I mean, its not tennis" 😂
Vince is a real one 😂
After watching Devil's Thumb with Honnold and Caldwell with that mindblowing drone footage, it's a real treat to now watch this as insanely magnificent footage. Bravo!
The drone really changes how we see climbing. Amazing.
What a great achievement. Brilliant filming and great editing. I would love to have had a few shots of the downclimb.
Frick yeah.
And awesome to see Vince sharing in the climb and experience.
Old school keeping it alive.
And Josh is such a stellar climber. And of course his actions are not social media, just putting up and sending routes in all styles.
No social media says everything about purity and authenticity in climbing today. Thanks for keepin' it real.
Best alpine film in ages!
Wow! What a climb!! Congrats to both! And to the filming crew. Best mountaineering I've seen since The Alpinist
That is the definition of adventure and badassness !!! Congrats to the climbers and the movie team.
I dont climb, never have climbed anything other than a tree. For some reason i CONTINUE to find myself transfixed and absolutely mesmerized by climbing vids. I dont kno why climbing vids are so mind boggling and gorgeous to me but i really appreciate the beauty that is being shared, i truly do.. I think maybe i was a climber in a former life... Anyway, thank you, very beautiful great video. This was very enjoyable to watch.
Josh & Vince blew my mind!! Such insane climbing. This overall story, and getting to know a little bit about these guys was just perfect. I can’t believe I got to watch this kind of content for free. Bravo to all involved in the making of this. It’s an absolute masterpiece❤
Wow. This mountain looks incredible, I've never seen one quite like that. And sleeping under the snow ridge! There's no hotel room in the world that compares to that. ❤
Amazing movie and amazing accomplishment! So down to earth and just overall badass, love to see it!
This was amazing thank you for putting this out there
Glad you enjoyed it!
Tremendous climb and spectacular film to document it. Really well done!
Brutal documentary Patagonia!!! Probably the best I have seen. Amazing climbing. Es bestial ! Enhorabuena y gracias!!!!
I only saw on Instagram that Alik Berg and Quentin Roberts summited the exact same moment and still wonder why they were edited out of the actual footage when this would be just a nice add on to the story. Can anyone explain that? I mean removing the people from the actual footage seems a lot of work for what?
Because it’s apparently too distracting and would ruin the shot and require explanation.
@@SimonMatthews-ni4xj an unsatisfactory response, right? This isn't a fictional drama, it's supposed to be a documentary.
@@renewind8383 buddy its an ad
Yeah it’s quite pathetic to erase them from it!
Just wow, the dron images really make justice to the whole experience. Taking exposure to a whole new level on this mountain. Well done.
Insanely impressive on all fronts cinematography, storytelling, and climbing. Amazing work by everyone involved.
Hands down that's one of the most beautiful mountains I have ever seen! F'n stunning. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
very proud to see Vince on something like this - he leart me on RUclips the Quad Anchor for Iceclimbing - where i liked his coolness right a way - of both :-))
No Appropriate Words to Describe this...Just Phenomenal.
Incredible climb! I've been so psyched on this movie since I heard their podcast about the climb on the Cutting Edge. That ice roof is mad on such a big mountain!
Ultimate mountaineering movie! So amazing to witness this on a comfortable couch 😂 and so easy to forget how much skilled these guys are! Speechless. And the filming, and the music! It got it all. Thanks for sharing this (while writing this comment I paused at 29’56 and the drone shot of the summit is unreal)
Just watched this for the second time. What a fantastic film. Josh is such a low-key crusher, and Vince is Vince. What a legendary team to pull off this climb!
Big UP and Sender Films consistently make the best climbing films. Such a beautiful balance between objective and larger purpose in this one, wonderfully imagined by detailed character building. Great work!
Aside from editing shots to remove climbers who are also on the summit at the same time, I agree with everything you said.
Congratulations on the send, what an accomplishment, and what a journey. Thanks, helps a lot!
nice work fellas!
cool to see Zarela on as expedition support! luv her! !
Great story, very impressed, no hyperbole!
Incredible climbing, and fantastic images. All together makes this documentary a marvel. Thank you for sharing this incredible experience. All my respect for these two masters
This made me crook at the end. Amazing courage and force of will.
What a mountain & route!
Like special Forces guys who've smoked a joint, Josh and Vince navigate through situations any mortal would find traumatising with an awareness that only comes from a person who's searched the soul. Being so close to the edge only seems to remind them they are alive. Toying with death means they control it. We all need to cope with death in some way, many avoid the idea, but some fight it; and in doing so grow as people. I was particularly impressed with the decision to back off when they knew it was too close, they are committed to their families, the greater cause for their lives, above all else. Yet this is more than two guys climbing a rock, it is an exploration and an expression of man's need to face mortality and suffering to overcome it. In this way, what they are doing is art, creative expressions of the soul to explore something meaningful and helpful. The filmmaking is equally as artistic and significant to the cause. I'm blown away at the capturing of these fascinating personalities, the history, even trauma, that drives the behaviour, juxtaposition of the dying mountain environment with the sense of overcoming, it is sensationalised but it needs to be. These feats and these movies are more than just glorified adverts on social media, they are creative expressions of people who are toying with deeply important existential issues and coming through it with insight that us viewers can harness to direct our own lives in the face of the same existential issues. So thanks for doing, creating and sharing, it means a lot.
Best soundtrack to a climbing movie hands down! Theeosees for the win!!!
Yeah, "Death is the reminder to live." The cold shadow that reminds you of the warmest sunshine. Thank you for this exceptional video.
Absolutely beautiful work, and these two guys seem so down to earth... Incredible feat. Hats off.
26:05 "I see risk as a bank account, you make withdrawals through your life, you should only take a withdrawal if it is really rewarding or inspiring to you" . Wow what an incredible way of putting it, definitely see it in a different way now, and makes me feel way better about the times I chose to be safe. Definitely keeping that quote
It’s moments like these I’m really thankful for this kind of access to such amazing stories. Great tale of two nice guys doing cool shit in the mountains.
Herzliche Gratulation!
Das war eine echt tolle Leistung von euch!
Danke für euren Film und eure persönlichen Eindrücke!
Berg Heil und schöne Grüße aus 🇦🇹 (Austria)!
Sois unas Máquinas!!!! 🦾🦾
Great job with the audio. Love to see the drone footage with the actual audio of the climb under it (or however you did that, maybe overdubs, but it sounded pretty real to me). Great film! Love to see Josh Lowell still cranking em out!
Respect and great film. Thanks.
Big congratz guys :-) Admire you a lot and also big thanks to patagonia for this amazing video!
I've seen that mountain for the first time this year from the distance on Mururaju. It captures your attention like nothing else! What an insane climb!
What an awesome and inspiring film...! ❤
What an amazing achievement. So much skill involved.
Incredible climb. I love the crew of climbers in this video.
the background info on both climbers made it so much more tangible, awesome content
Love the understated attitude of the climbers. Amazing job, guys!
Ultimate...conquered...and beyond! Totally enjoyed the vid guys! Thanks for creating cool content to watch and dream about.
What a climb, great film!
The last hero shots were unreal. What an impressive mountain
Half-Way there! Going down, sometimes it's harder, then going up. Excellent video!
Amazing climb for sure, one of the best I seen. Thanks!
Best documentary everrrrrrr thx from swedennnn
"I guess it's pretty important that we see our families huh" I felt that. The ice roof bivvy and climb... Out of this world!
"Is it dangerous?"
"I mean, it's not tennis. So ya"
Best quote lol.
That was a great film. Makes me want to go climb. TFPU
I met Vince in the early 90’s in Crested Butte Co.
We gave him the nickname “invincible”.
I’m not much of a climber, but I’ve put more laps in the BLACK CANYON with a kayak than anyone. Any climbing that I have done was in the BLACK via kayak.
I recognized him instantly, glad he’s getting it
I first met Vince back in the old 90s AMGA days when he was this young buzz saw and you could tell in the first five minutes that he was going places. Good to see you still gettin' after it, Vince. And yes, it's for sure not tennis! Congratulations on your little climb, guys (wink).
great production here. amazing climb and climbers. and dads.
Some of the raddest dads out there!
I cant tell you how much better this is than "influencer content". Real is better every time...nice work
Thank you👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
wow great job everyone involved
This is the best RUclips video I have ever watched
Incredible.
Congrats.
Thank you for be inspiring
ive always wondered if there were any mountains that required technical "sport" climbing, super cool and super inspirational!
Kudos gentleman,that was a absolute joyride
In August this year I camped in the valley below Jirishanca, marveling at the stunning mountain. I sat and wondered, is there a route up this in current conditions, and if so, who would go for it? Now we know. Congrats Josh and Vince, and thanks for inspiring us to keep getting after it in the Blanca and Huayhuash before these glaciers are gone.
Thank you for sharing! Sounds like an incredible experience!!
Best climbing film I've seen in years,
Well done boys and super coop docu. 💪🤘
jajaja muy bueno!! tremendo pegue!! realmente impresionante y motivador, digno de hipérbole
Great film! Amazing footage.
Freakishly awesome vid!
Excellent, thanks it's a shame that it didn't mention the two Canucks they met on the summit.
Gorgeous climb and gorgeous movie!
Respect vraiment à ces grimpeurs de l extrême ❤❤❤❤
Great climb, great personallities!
insane climb and story!!!!
Wow, .....wow. this is inspiring and apsoutly bad ass. Massive inspritation.
Would have been good to see more of your journey up the mountain 🙏🏻
Great movie but but the summit sequence is highly problematic, as it does not show the Canadians Alik Berg and Quentin Roberts reaching the summit at the same time via a different route. They seem to be ‘erased’ from the image, even though they appear at the same precise spot in the pics of the expedition report.🤔
Hi, it's the filmmakers from Reel Rock. Quentin and Alik's climb was incredible - it was honored with the Piolet D'or and deserves to be told as its own story. But for the story we set out to tell, of Josh and Vince's deeply personal, multi-year journey on Jirishanca, seeing an additional climber on the summit, who was only visible from some angles and not from others, during the emotional climax of the movie, was very distracting. It would have required a lot of explanation and new information about who he was and how he got there, during the last 30 seconds of the movie. So we made the creative decision to avoid showing Alik on the summit. We can see how some people might object to that decision, but as storytellers we are constantly making choices about what to include or omit as it's impossible to follow every thread. Certainly no disrespect to Quentin and Alik! We recommend reading their great write-up about their climb from the American Alpine Journal: publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13201216702
@@REELROCK1 There are clear guidelines for ethical documentary film-making. Not cutting dialogue mid-sentence to change its meaning, using footage out of context, using cuts/juxtaposition to falsely imply simultaneity or the perception of cause and effect, selective omission to change the narrative etc. etc.
If that scene was causing confusion then a couple of those shots could have been removed from the final cut. That's an editorial choice. A tough choice to make, ethically, because it tells a different story. It simplifies the story, yes, but it also makes the mountain seem more remote, more badass. It puts the climbers alone on the pedestal, which is ironic after Josh's remarks earlier in the film.
Deciding to use the footage anyway but remove the climbers is a bit different. That's not editorial anymore, that's completely removing the guarantee that the audience is viewing real footage. It goes beyond even the common case in the climbing media of passing a re-enactment off as footage of the original ascent.
Altering images brings everything into question. Was anything else justifiably altered to look more badass? Were anchors edited out? Were cameramen edited out? Did seeing a helicopter confuse viewers? If we don't have the guarantee that we're looking at real documentary footage, then there's no guarantee that anything is real.
@@REELROCK1 Very poor decision. Immediately calls into question the integrity of the film makers. Emblematic of the times. Sad state.
@@REELROCK1think that you have possibly got your priorities wrong. They didn’t do the climb so you can make a beautiful movie. You’re making a beautiful movie in order to document their climb.
Your core audience are all established climbers / mountaineers - doesn’t it slightly insult their intelligence to suggest that a minor disctraction in the form of objective reality would undermine the project of documenting that reality?
You’re film making is a creative project which must remain secondary to its aim as a document. You have placed your own aims and intentions as film makers at the pinnacle of your priority list which has enabled you to feel you can justify digitally altering out objective fact because it compromises your vision or what artistic integrity means in this context.
Where does that stop? Will you edit out aid? Edit out bad weather? Edit in anything?
I wonder if the climbers consented to this alteration prior to release
Wow, i've climbed mountains before but that's top level nice work
Damn this was awesome. No fluff just badass climbing
Great films Guy`s, Big Respect
great video, keep making the pure aline gear to make these expeditions happen
would have loved to see them repell down :D
crazy Video, thanks a lot
‘It’s not tennis’ just about sums it up, fantastic 30 minutes, a mountain falling down with two amazing humans going up
Utterly inspiring
Epic! Nice work gents!
That was so sick to witness. Well done
Excellent!!
Just awesome.
Wonder what it would feel like climbing something like that. Amazing film.
I love the life of climbing