I was gonna thumbs down this video just out of jealousy that my thumb can’t reach tenths, but the iPad was too far and the thumbs up was the only thing my short fingers could reach.
Felix Greenburg I’ve actually been making a concerted effort over this time, and all white key tenths came rather quickly...I’m now working on the black/white key tenths, and they’re all possible! Some were tough to hit without hitting other keys, and others were only possible at very light velocities. They’re getting cleaner and louder every week. :-)
@@rodrigoappendino It didn't really take more than a few months! And personally, flexibility was maybe less than half job. I found it was mostly a matter of muscle memory to approach how to strike each set; the angle, wrist movement, etc. Just about all of the are effortless now, although B-D# and Db-F are still challenges. Honestly, however, I don't need to employ them very often. I happy to have 5/6s of all of them ready whenever I need them!
If you struggle to make an octave not enough stretching in the world can help you reach a 10th. This is such a persisting myth. If you can reach an octave while maintaining the arch, then yes there's still some room with some stretching and strengthening of the muscles. But for someone like me with a hand span of 7 inches fully stretched (hand is almost completely flattened. Arch is lost at that degree of stretching), there is no way stretching can help me any further. Average female hand span is less than 8 inches. If most men need some stretching exercises to make it a 10th, imagine what most female pianists have to deal with. The ergonomically scaled keyboard is greatly needed.
Yes this is so true!! I have very small hands and I can barely reach a ninth even if my hand is stretched out 180° . At this point I can try to stretch as much as I want and it won’t change anything
@@trebletrouble1348 I can reach a ninth and hardly a tenth at the edge of the keyboard and I don't consider having woman sized hands lol. Indeed it's actually pretty average for a man but quite big for most women. I have never met a woman reaching a tenth (from personal experience of course). Most women I have met could only reach an octave and only a few a ninth (with difficulty most of the time).
One of these days ill have a company that makes instruments and sound equipment. Ill create a product that solves this problem for you and others like you.
Yes, there is a place for a smaller keyboards and manufacturers absolutely should produce it! However, OPENING up your hand and increasing your arch is possible if you do the right hand excercises. I used to just be able to stretch a 10th with my pinky and thumb in a straight line and arch completely flattened, and now only 2 months later I can do an 11th and still retain some arch. I can maybe make a video on this in the future, but the key is to supplement your stretching with strength training. I do rice bucket (three variations: opening your hand as wide as possible and closing, grabbing the rice and twisting, pinching), pinch holds, etc.. and for stretching I do opening my hand as wide as possible and holding, keeping the fingers curved and widening the space between my fingers (this will set your fingers wider over time) and gently pulling back at the base of my fingers. If you look at "big" hands like Rachmaninoff for example, they are not exceptionally large compared to "small" hands, they are just exceptionally open and free! This is not a wild idea, bodybuilders drastically change the entire frame of their backs as they progress in their training, the same if possible for your hand. It IS possible to change the entire frame of your hand!
When i started playing piano, I couldn't reach an octave. Now I can reach an 11th (18 years old now, I'm not a 13 year old running around saying I can reach a 12th)
"It't not so much about hand size" ... easy for someone with large hands to say. There's a reason the best concert pianists have large hands. Its like height in basketball.
Exactly. Once you're not an absolute beginner anymore, you're normally able to stretch your fingers as wide as possible. And that's where it ends. You can't reach the 10th if your hands are to small. It's annoying to hear all the time... Duhhhh it's not about size, it's about technique. No it's not.
After years of stretching I can finally play the DbF 10th and all my 11ths without split notes and I can voice them. I can also play CE near the black keys now, don’t give up hope, the long term work pays off.
Fascia stretching and fascia massage is actually healthy, I have fixed my tendonitis and wrist pain with Liebscher&Bracht exercises permanently by doing them 3 times a week (Just avoid overstretching - slow and steady wins - and you're good to go). Great to see, that you can actually develop the reach over time, too. I thought, you could do stuff with this since I noticed that some large chords are much more comfortable after years. Acupressure is also very good to take care of hands and fingers :)
Thank you for this. I'm arranging a 3 part organ piece by Bach for the piano, and in order for the inner voice to be present, it requires several stretches of a m10, with 5 playing the continuo and 1 singing the libretto. Sometimes I can nail it, but most times the continuo is botched. I figured if I just kept trying, one day I'd get it. As a piano teacher I should know better. I will begin carefully stretching my hands and check back in a week from now.
After one day of stretching I can comfortably reach most 10ths, including all in the arrangement I'm writing. Some 10ths are difficult (D - F#) and others are not yet possible for me (Ab - C).
Fully stretched I can reach an octave easily with both hands. Nine is hard already .__. but it's really not about the pain, that like after doing sports, so nothing big. I just can't see how I can ever be able to achieve a bigger span with my... tiny hands...I will practice stretching some more...
my hands are pretty small, with stretching the max I can reach is a very uncomfortable 10th where my pinkie and thumb are literally in a straight line. no more stretching is going to help the fact that the maximum possible distance between my pinkie tip and thumb tip is smaller than the distance of an 10-11th.
My thumb and pinky can be a perfect 180° straight line, and only reach a 9th. No amount of stretching will get me to a 10th. I can barely taste it but will never reach it unless my hands miraculously grow
Honestly, it’s the White key to Black Major thirds and visa versa (Db,D,Eb,E,Ab,A,Bb,and B) basically everything except C,F,F#,and G. Those are the major struggle 🤦🏾♂️🥷🏾 but it is doable! Great video ✊🏾
An underlooked strategy- getting a smaller keyboard Idk why they don't make more high quality keyboards with smaller keys tbh . My right hand can reach 10ths but my left hand can't quite yet haha.
No matter how hard and long you stretch, if your hands are small (reaching only the 9th on a full span), you will never be able to play the 10th without arpeggiating. This video is great but only for those with spider long fingers like you have. Thanks anyway.
Whatever you want to do on piano, you can do perfectly well be playing octaves instead of 10ths. And also you can roll your 10ths if you really do want to play them. So you play the low note and then engage the pedal, then move up to the high note. As you play more you often get more range too. I think I could only reach 9ths when I started, now I can hit some 11ths.
I can reach 10th on left hand but not 11th. On right hand I can reach 11th with my pinky and ring finger. However, I can touch the edge of the 12th with the ring finger but not the pinky for some reason.
I can reach 13 the problem is im still been playing the piano for 3 weeks do im really not good at it i just came here if the size of of the hand matter actually in piano
Lmao I play piano for 11 years and my hands are literally smaller than child ones And it's not aboit not being able to stretch I have to have my hand playing an octave like him when he's on the furthest note
@@BodmonBullet you are totally lying, im 16 and can reach 11th interval but I'm almost to 12th even though i have very big hands compared to an average hand that's what my piano teacher said.
I was gonna thumbs up the video but my big hands (Which my left can reach an assisted tenth and barely a tenth with my right) But i accidentally hit a thumbs down😅 Sorry about that. Fixed it
I'm 11 and I can reach 10ths pretty well with both hands. Same here my left hand is slightly bigger than my right hand. My mom said my pretty handds hold so much strengh
Your fingers do stretch a little, for example I can play a 10th with my left hand from playing the guitar with my fretting hand and a ninth on my strumming hand. However, stretching an extra two notes might not be possible.
I can reach 13 the problem is im still been playing the piano for 3 weeks do im really not good at it i just came here if the size of of the hand matter actually in piano
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I was gonna thumbs down this video just out of jealousy that my thumb can’t reach tenths, but the iPad was too far and the thumbs up was the only thing my short fingers could reach.
Duane Yaiser you’ll get there. I’m sure
If there’s some you’re struggling with you can also roll the tenths
Felix Greenburg I’ve actually been making a concerted effort over this time, and all white key tenths came rather quickly...I’m now working on the black/white key tenths, and they’re all possible!
Some were tough to hit without hitting other keys, and others were only possible at very light velocities. They’re getting cleaner and louder every week. :-)
Great job I’m like 0.2 inches of reaching a full tenth
It's been more than a year now. Can you reach the thumbs down already?
@@rodrigoappendino It didn't really take more than a few months! And personally, flexibility was maybe less than half job. I found it was mostly a matter of muscle memory to approach how to strike each set; the angle, wrist movement, etc. Just about all of the are effortless now, although B-D# and Db-F are still challenges. Honestly, however, I don't need to employ them very often. I happy to have 5/6s of all of them ready whenever I need them!
"This is a video for people with smaller hands to reach a 10th"
*effortlessly reaches an 11th with his huge hands*
And here I thought this was going to be a video for people whose hands can barely reach a ninth. His hands are like Huntsman spiders.
Your hand looks like a creature of nightmare climbing on my bed. Thanks for ruining my sleep forever.
Kidding. Awesome stretch!
If you struggle to make an octave not enough stretching in the world can help you reach a 10th. This is such a persisting myth. If you can reach an octave while maintaining the arch, then yes there's still some room with some stretching and strengthening of the muscles. But for someone like me with a hand span of 7 inches fully stretched (hand is almost completely flattened. Arch is lost at that degree of stretching), there is no way stretching can help me any further. Average female hand span is less than 8 inches. If most men need some stretching exercises to make it a 10th, imagine what most female pianists have to deal with. The ergonomically scaled keyboard is greatly needed.
im a guy with woman sized hands can only reach a 9th and i agree with this notion
Yes this is so true!! I have very small hands and I can barely reach a ninth even if my hand is stretched out 180° . At this point I can try to stretch as much as I want and it won’t change anything
@@trebletrouble1348 I can reach a ninth and hardly a tenth at the edge of the keyboard and I don't consider having woman sized hands lol. Indeed it's actually pretty average for a man but quite big for most women. I have never met a woman reaching a tenth (from personal experience of course). Most women I have met could only reach an octave and only a few a ninth (with difficulty most of the time).
One of these days ill have a company that makes instruments and sound equipment. Ill create a product that solves this problem for you and others like you.
Yes, there is a place for a smaller keyboards and manufacturers absolutely should produce it! However, OPENING up your hand and increasing your arch is possible if you do the right hand excercises. I used to just be able to stretch a 10th with my pinky and thumb in a straight line and arch completely flattened, and now only 2 months later I can do an 11th and still retain some arch. I can maybe make a video on this in the future, but the key is to supplement your stretching with strength training. I do rice bucket (three variations: opening your hand as wide as possible and closing, grabbing the rice and twisting, pinching), pinch holds, etc.. and for stretching I do opening my hand as wide as possible and holding, keeping the fingers curved and widening the space between my fingers (this will set your fingers wider over time) and gently pulling back at the base of my fingers. If you look at "big" hands like Rachmaninoff for example, they are not exceptionally large compared to "small" hands, they are just exceptionally open and free! This is not a wild idea, bodybuilders drastically change the entire frame of their backs as they progress in their training, the same if possible for your hand. It IS possible to change the entire frame of your hand!
“Stick with it and you will get there.” What a positive statement!
Yes, I did enjoy this video very much.
Thanks Felix!
When i started playing piano, I couldn't reach an octave. Now I can reach an 11th (18 years old now, I'm not a 13 year old running around saying I can reach a 12th)
Get out of here
i can only play 9ths aha my fingers are tiny (im 14 btw)
@GJ BOLANTE 10s are useful, but 11s are super rare, almost useless. So dont worry :)
@@poggersmonkeyman7580 that's good! :) keep stretching your hands everyday, and 10s will be no problem!
@@tyler-qr5jn sure will! ill get practicing 😉
"It't not so much about hand size" ... easy for someone with large hands to say.
There's a reason the best concert pianists have large hands. Its like height in basketball.
Exactly. Once you're not an absolute beginner anymore, you're normally able to stretch your fingers as wide as possible. And that's where it ends. You can't reach the 10th if your hands are to small. It's annoying to hear all the time... Duhhhh it's not about size, it's about technique. No it's not.
After years of stretching I can finally play the DbF 10th and all my 11ths without split notes and I can voice them. I can also play CE near the black keys now, don’t give up hope, the long term work pays off.
So how did you start off? I haven't stretched but I can play most 10th's and a few 11ths (even though the 11ths don't feel quite good)
i literally can only reach an octave and have to go to the bottom so that i dont press any other keys
@@aeroslothy nah, im not in the xqc discord tbh
I can't even reach 9th.......................
archer li now can you?
I can't reach 7 so I remove a finger to play it
@@MlNA010 really??
So at the end its like trying and trying and trying and train just everyday but not to long to play a tenth
Narrow keys…
Fascia stretching and fascia massage is actually healthy, I have fixed my tendonitis and wrist pain with Liebscher&Bracht exercises permanently by doing them 3 times a week (Just avoid overstretching - slow and steady wins - and you're good to go). Great to see, that you can actually develop the reach over time, too. I thought, you could do stuff with this since I noticed that some large chords are much more comfortable after years. Acupressure is also very good to take care of hands and fingers :)
Thank you for this. I'm arranging a 3 part organ piece by Bach for the piano, and in order for the inner voice to be present, it requires several stretches of a m10, with 5 playing the continuo and 1 singing the libretto. Sometimes I can nail it, but most times the continuo is botched. I figured if I just kept trying, one day I'd get it. As a piano teacher I should know better. I will begin carefully stretching my hands and check back in a week from now.
After one day of stretching I can comfortably reach most 10ths, including all in the arrangement I'm writing. Some 10ths are difficult (D - F#) and others are not yet possible for me (Ab - C).
Thank you. Very helpful. Nothing like true experience to teach a topic. Bravo.
Fully stretched I can reach an octave easily with both hands. Nine is hard already .__. but it's really not about the pain, that like after doing sports, so nothing big. I just can't see how I can ever be able to achieve a bigger span with my... tiny hands...I will practice stretching some more...
Great video ! I wish I could also play major tenths like Db-F 😎
That’s a tricky one. It’s surprising how far you can push average sized hands if you try
You can also ofc roll the tenths. I’m no expert on that tho
@@felixgreenburg8142 narrow keys anyone?
@@ValkyRiver No thank you! Im good
Broo start making vids again explaining this stuff, id love to play jazz/ funk/ blues runs but nobody explains it well on RUclips
Sign the petition "PASK" to persuade piano manufactures to make alternatively sized keyboards..
VERY COOL! Another one who knows the PASK!
My left hand is having a hard time playing DGBE so I came to RUclips for help with 9ths. Thank you for this video! (:
my hands are pretty small, with stretching the max I can reach is a very uncomfortable 10th where my pinkie and thumb are literally in a straight line. no more stretching is going to help the fact that the maximum possible distance between my pinkie tip and thumb tip is smaller than the distance of an 10-11th.
I can't even do a 9th... and you are saying yours are small...😂
@@plutoniumreal haha I mean comparatively to the general population I’ve still got small hands, you’ve just got super small hands 🤣
@Zenyx yeah my hand shivers at the thought of >11ths
@Zenyx it hurts to even play 8ths for me.. I'm 13 and I pray for my hand to grow
My thumb and pinky can be a perfect 180° straight line, and only reach a 9th. No amount of stretching will get me to a 10th. I can barely taste it but will never reach it unless my hands miraculously grow
Was it Chopin who wrecked his hand using some mechanical device to extend his span?
Honestly, it’s the White key to Black Major thirds and visa versa (Db,D,Eb,E,Ab,A,Bb,and B) basically everything except C,F,F#,and G. Those are the major struggle 🤦🏾♂️🥷🏾 but it is doable! Great video ✊🏾
Narrow keys…
How come your nails are dark purple? Injury?
An underlooked strategy- getting a smaller keyboard Idk why they don't make more high quality keyboards with smaller keys tbh .
My right hand can reach 10ths but my left hand can't quite yet haha.
Absolutely correct. ruclips.net/video/-JegHkuMMKY/видео.html
"some of you may only reach 9th"
and some may not do even that. like me.
Literally me
dayum... your hand is literaly piano hands
helped me finally finish my lieb 3 rendition, grazie
Also useful due to the flight of the bumblebee having a lot of tenths for the left hand
Same for the wrong note etude
Or, you could go for a keybed on DS 6.0 or DS 5.5
VERY COOL! Found someone who knows the PASK
No matter how hard and long you stretch, if your hands are small (reaching only the 9th on a full span), you will never be able to play the 10th without arpeggiating. This video is great but only for those with spider long fingers like you have. Thanks anyway.
We really need NARROW KEYS.
Im a newbie and only reach the edges of 9ths. Should i quit? (im 13 btw)
Whatever you want to do on piano, you can do perfectly well be playing octaves instead of 10ths. And also you can roll your 10ths if you really do want to play them. So you play the low note and then engage the pedal, then move up to the high note. As you play more you often get more range too. I think I could only reach 9ths when I started, now I can hit some 11ths.
Thanks. I can reach the (assisted) 10th with my left hand. I can barely do the tenth with just one hand on my right! My hands are growing fast man
PASK, for god’s sake. Thank you David Steinbuhler.
Hey what was the time period before you started to see improvments
I can reach 10th on left hand but not 11th. On right hand I can reach 11th with my pinky and ring finger. However, I can touch the edge of the 12th with the ring finger but not the pinky for some reason.
0:30 wth, your hand looks aliens hand
I can reach 13 the problem is im still been playing the piano for 3 weeks do im really not good at it i just came here if the size of of the hand matter actually in piano
Lmao
I play piano for 11 years and my hands are literally smaller than child ones
And it's not aboit not being able to stretch
I have to have my hand playing an octave like him when he's on the furthest note
2:34
Rachmaninov with easy 13th:🧐😒👎🚬🗿
I can't even do an octave😭
Hands are still growing up to early 20's so age of the opinion giver is relevant.
Gershwin's Preludge 1 without rolling!
Ive been playing for 2+ years and I cannot reach an octave
When I first played I was barely reaching 8th I can reach (white key) 10ths now
*cries in small hands*
*cries in piano world ignoring narrow keys*
Like
I can't play a 10th but I can play an octave with fingers 1 and 3
And I have really small hands comparing to my other pianists friends
Comedically large fingers
I’m about to use my toes just to reach a note
Same handspan.It's just I have short fingers and big palms.😶
I can do from C to G in the other octave i think thats pretty unique
Lucky bastard
How does one play A-C#? Or G#-C...
I can easily do C-D#...
Don’t worry. I struggle with Ab-C too. The only way I can reach this without hyperextension is to use a narrower keyboard.
I can't even reach a dang octave.
0:43 OMG ME TOO
if I can reach tenth when I'm ten
At 4'11" my hand can go about a 9th maybe a 10th at most
MY SMALL HANDS CANT DO THIS
I can play nine apart I’ve done piano eight years
I’m 11 and I can barely reach a tenth, I don’t know how much I’m gonna grow but I hope I grow
Same I am 11 it's so hard with these small brown hands
same well I play unravel to get there
I am 12 now and can almost reach 11th
im 9 and can reach a 12th. u guys have baby hends haha
@@BodmonBullet you are totally lying, im 16 and can reach 11th interval but I'm almost to 12th even though i have very big hands compared to an average hand that's what my piano teacher said.
I can’t even reach an 8th😭
Not even an octave! bro i feel bad formyou
I feel bad for you, don’t worry
Your hands are like baby hands. That’s too bad... hopefully eventually you might be able to
Nah you just have long fingers 💀
I was gonna thumbs up the video but my big hands (Which my left can reach an assisted tenth and barely a tenth with my right) But i accidentally hit a thumbs down😅 Sorry about that. Fixed it
i can reach an octave only but I DID A 10
rachmaninov could reach a 13th i believe. 😳
Nigga had super large hands, it was well known
If that’s true I don’t think he was human
I don’t think your correct
Ughhh I can only reach a 9th! I really hope I can at least get to 10 😂
what happened to your finger nails
My hands are just small
I dont think I want to do that.
Your fingers do scare me.
Well i can reach 13th not very good but i can reach it
why am i even watching this i could reach a 12th-
Black to White is more difficult 🤣
I'm 11 and I can reach 10ths pretty well with both hands. Same here my left hand is slightly bigger than my right hand. My mom said my pretty handds hold so much strengh
If you can’t reach 10th you can’t reach it so I don’t think your video helps
Your fingers do stretch a little, for example I can play a 10th with my left hand from playing the guitar with my fretting hand and a ninth on my strumming hand. However, stretching an extra two notes might not be possible.
If you can’t reach a 10th, you need a narrower keyboard
I can reach eleventh and play 2 octaves in the same time by only one hand.I’m 13
I bet you can use your hands in others ways lmao
I-
Cant even reach an octave 😭
Your hands are VERY tiny then
@@afoolsbabybear2266 yaaaas :
Lol this is easy for me
I am a girl, wanted to play a piano/be a pianist...16 years old, can reach 10th
yall cant reach 10ths? i can reach 11ths
Ok champ ahahah
@@gianlucabarile3921 ?
I can reach a 11.5th lol fr tho
I can reach 13 the problem is im still been playing the piano for 3 weeks do im really not good at it i just came here if the size of of the hand matter actually in piano