Always loved ARP, such a well balanced unbiased view on rugby matters covering all relevant news. Thank you for not ignoring the Springboks' title-clinching achievement over the weekend, unlike The Breakdown.
Take Mils off The Breakdown then you're left with a bunch of ABs cheerleaders. These guys here actually got me into rugby podcasts and I've never left.. 🇿🇦
@@deantairi8357 The Breakdown covered a competition that involved their team but failed to acknowledge or discuss the achievement of the other teams involved in the competition. We're not asking for brownie points, we're asking for better punditry that covers the entire competition. It's disappointing having only a handful of unbiased podcasts or shows in rugby. Watch Keo and Zels as the benchmark when it comes to giving teams their dues and just really unbiased all-round constructive views. ARP arguably my second favourite podcast in world rugby.
Right, thanks, you’ve saved me some time. I suspected this may happen. I don’t know if it’s worth hearing it anymore. I think I’ll watch the spider on my ceiling rather.
To the Bok supporters frustrated by the Breakdown’s silence on the Bok victory, please understand that most All Blacks fans don’t share the same views as the show. The Breakdown caters primarily to an older, inward-looking audience focused almost exclusively on the All Blacks, many of whom still consume the show via traditional TV rather than online. However, the average All Blacks supporter is quite different from the one portrayed on the show. So there’s no need to be upset. Shows like The ARP are a much better representation of the broader, rugby-loving audience in New Zealand.
Question... Why is that the breakdown managed to comment on both games played during the RC for FIVE WEEKS but on the last week they can only bring themselves to speak bring about one game on the final week of the championship? Not even ONE sentence about the second game played. I don't know about you but I can only think of two logical reasons. One: they are trolling and wanted the reaction or Two: They genuinely have distain for the springboks. (Note: the tone of my reply on your comment isn't one fighting but of genuinely wanting discussion)
Springbok Fans are fanatic about their rugby and ruthless when things don't go our way, But when things do go our way we Celebrate the whole week. We follow every rugby channel. We have Bok Friday, people dress up and go to work with their springbok shirts. Look at the stadium vibes compared to other countries. It's crazy. Branas, Braai and Rugby, that's basically what most South Africans live for. So all of this builds pressure and passion, and Rassie has managed to use it to their advantage. Thanks for this Channel love it. 💪🇿🇦🦌💥
On a positive note.Lets not forget that all BOK SUPPORTERS support and cheer for NZ,AUS And ARG when playing Northen Hemisphere teams. We are proud of our Southern Hemisphere teams and our Rugby History. Lets go get them next Month!!!!
As a South African and Rugby Lover. Well done on an amazing show.Covering all the teams and highlighting diffrences and learnings. As a follower we listen and analyse all positive and negative critisim. Thanks team.. You cant buy matuarity and unbias discussions. Hats of to you.
💯 I still can't believe The Breakdown totally ignored the Springboks winning the Rugby Championship. They've covered all 4 teams performances the whole Rugby Championship, but when South Africa wins the trophy they silent. And they should've known people would be in the comments talking about them ignoring the Boks win. It's crazy and immature!!!
Yes , we scored against the yellow and held in when 14. Think the pressure created the frustration that lead to the yellow cards. Enjoyed the analysis in number of penalties conceded amd number if dominant tackles and carries. Very interesting
One of the best 3 rugby shows period. I also enjoy Egg chasers and Boks Office. Even though they are all from different countries what I love is the passion for rugby and the positivity. Joh Kirwan and that bunch needs to retire seriously all they do is find fault with everyone and everything.
37:55 Parsons gives a great insight for the public in how top achievers look at situations and that is why they are successful in their given field, sport, business and life. Always look for the solution and how to fix the situation. Great pod cast !!! Truly !
Thanks guys. I really enjoy your insights and opinions. Very fair and unbiased views. It's a strange position to be in as a Springbok supporter. Having the rest of the world looking to you and speaking of the way you've changed the game is flattering. We have a small glimpse into what NZ lived with for so long. Apart from the obnoxious arrogant fans I think most South Africans are just happy to be winning and like our team are mostly gracious when we win. We really enjoy our games against NZ and the intensity it brings.
Trust youth more, like Rassie does, instead of waiting for injuries to older players to finally give them a chance. It's the younger and new squad members who have been standouts this year for the ABs, not the veterans, most of whom have been pretty average.
Hoping to see 6 - Blackadder, 7 - Ardie, 8 - Satiti in the End of Year tour just to see combination. All 3 has the capacity to cover other positions and can switch easily during a game to 6 - Satiti, 7 - Blackadder, 8 - Ardie. Personally hoping to have Lakai in the squad if Razor really looking towards 2027. On the 10 dilemma, it would be good if we can have a specialist 10 instead of backs who can play 10. I’d love what Cam Millar has done this year for Highlanders and Otago. Would be great to have a young 10 to learn from all this legends/seniors in End of Year Tour. On top of that, hoping that Proctor gets more playing time for the tour and have him plays with ALB/JB to build up chemistry. He’s another young gun with plenty to offer as a specialist center instead of using winger converts.
I must say as a South African, this show is proper analysis. These blokes have true rugby intellect always go deep and into detail. Really appreciate ARP.
You guys are very cool to listen to!!! You speak logic and look at the Boks team like you would with eyes only focusing on being a student of the game. Will say the ABs need a hard man at 12... that sets up their whole gainline issue. Wallace Sititi is the business in the loose forwards 😊
In reality the biggest thing the All Blacks can truly take away from the springbok is changing the availability system to have the All Blacks being able to select any New Zealand rugby player like the springbok have the choice to select any South African rugby player they want , this would mean All Blacks could have selected this year alone , players like Richie mounga Shannon frizel Fainga a Nuku Brodie retallick 4 players that were some of the All Blacks best last year , All Blacks have a disadvantage as where the springbok have the advantage with their current selection system
The biggest difference between The boks, the All blacks or any other team is the man the myth the legend Rassie. I don't think people always realize what this guy has done in the last 6 years to get the Boks where they are today. Forget what you see on tv. The behind the scenes work, that he has done when he was Director of Rugby to being the coach. You can ask anyone that knows him. This guy eat breaths and dream rugby every minute of every day. According to a few players, he sleeps very little, he is so focused on making the Boks better and better. Thanks for a great show guys.🤙🇿🇦😎
Libbok gave Larkham/Spencer vibes against The Pumas. I still feel like they should've allowed him to kick, he can kick, he kicks at the Stormers. That was his night. He's a force to be reckoned with for sure. He showed that he is a general. And having Pollard on the bench is scary because he is a lethal finisher. Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu is a still too individualistic but the more he plays with the Boks, he'll unlearn it. That's why Libbok is first choice at the Stormers i guess because he's really team orientated. Then there's Damian Willemse as well. All of em world class. Scary & crazy depth.
As a Saffa I still believe NZ is the yardstick, especially over time. I am enjoying our current "supremacy" but I cannot wait for the Kiwis to come back. We need this rivalry to last!
Yeah I don’t know how anyone with a functioning brain can possibly state that the game “was even until the yellow cards…” the cards are a result of pressure,being overrun and getting frustrated
@whytheface777 💯 And infringing to prevent points being scored. Not rolling away in rucks, collapsing mauls and offsides etc all in the danger zone. So its a trade off. Otherwise, could commit these offences repeatedly so that no one scores tries against you
What a brilliant analysis by James Parsons regarding the "review/preview room". For me, that perfectly sums up the reason why Sotutu wasn't in the All Blacks. John Kirwan said perhaps the reason Sotutu wasn't named in the All Blacks wasn't about what he did on the field but what was happening in the changing room. You need players to step up when the going gets tough (even when they lose) rather than players who spit their dummies, looking for mummy, as Sotutu did judging by his post. match interviews, and may others, he gave especially after the loss to the crusaders 2024. . We don't want players like this who cry after every loss. We want players who learn, build and grow to continue to become better winners and take their losses as learnings so that we ultimately grow our performance to the best of our abilities...as WINNERS!
Show me a better analytical rugby podcast... Someone in the comments said we 🇿🇦 suffer from inferiority complex and its a 🇳🇿 . Weird how we admired those guys at rugby for the longest time while taking a pounding from them. Shoe is on the other foot now and its difficult for most swallow, its sad.
@@lukhanyosotyingwa1680 The North as well as some in Australasia are having a tough time talking about a Bok team no longer conforming to the previous perceived notion that we're predictable brawlers with no plan B. You're right, guys like Mehrtens, Ben Smith, John Kirwan and others are having a tough time watching the Boks evolve into a juggernaut achieving what the best team in history did the ABs, whilst still not realising their full potential. I think there's a real fear with our new expansive plans that we're going to find a frightening level above what we're playing now. If we achieve a threepeat I'm 2027 then there's no doubt this will be the greatest team in history. That's if we're not already there.
@@ClintonEastland wouldn't say you're the greatest yet, a threepeat would make you the best, given you can win in between world cups this time around. I would say that the boks are nearing the peak of their powers if they're not already there, that's why rassie is trying younger players out to replace the players who will have to leave before the next world cup.
I don't like people saying we need to be more like the Bokke. I want us to be more like ourselves. But improve on what issues we have in our own performances both with players and coaching staff. Not beat the Bokke at thier own game. They own that. But beat them at this beautiful game of rugby.
Did u see the last Bok Arg game= beautiful. NZ has got great skills in its players. And always known as innovators. The rolling maul? Who started that( hate it or love it) But I don't think that innovation is a focus/ or competence ? NZ is like Da Vinci, all the skills, all the equipment, but absolutely blow all idea of what to paint...🤫🤔
Brother... If you hadn't noticed, the boks have been beating the ABs at their own game 💀 expansive, fast paced, offloads, cross kicks.. Only thing they haven't done is the haka 😜
@@Deletthis-gp7yy no they havnt the all blacks mistake gave them the win. Given we only lost by a few point. RWC dream team vs a rebuilding All Blacks 🤣 ABs weren't so much dominated
We in Saffas cant understand the All Black selection : Beauden Barret should be the no 10 - Damian should be at 15 and Jordie must be moved to 13 Reiko is not a centre his a wing Love ❤️ the show
Not helping us by putting DMac at 15 lol Will Jordan is a better full back but I agree, rieko should go back to the wing where he started his career and flourished.
Beauden Barrett is NOT a 10 - he does not have the kicking game to guide the ABs around the park - he is a fullback! MacKenzie is a great super rugby player and NOT a test player. He is a fullback who cannot take the high ball and is definitely NOT a 10! Jordie Barrett is a 12 - played 12 during his school age and was the 2016 U20 World Cup player of the tournament as a 12! Ioane is a centre - his speed gives him the ability to make an outside break and cover defence! What you fail to understand that the biggest problem with the ABs is not the players - its the coaches and their failure to produce an attack game to counter the umbrella rush defence and their delusion to keep playing running, entertaining rugby!!!!
@@thefobbie0034 ohh my bad I forgot Beauden won IRB player of the year twice playing at 10 and then for some reason got moved to full back to accommodate a rich man’s DMac in Richie Mo’unga. The coaches are playing players out of position and it shows. Rieko’s speed is better utilised on the wing where as the centres need to have the fundamental skills of passing and tackling which Rieko lacks compared to Jordie and ALB.
Rugby is a 23-man game. Rassie believes the 8 on the bench are good enough to start at any stage therefore trusts them to deliver for at least 30 minutes, no point replacing at 70 minutes, not enough time to get into stride and make a difference. Maybe I'm mistaken, AB's made subs earlier this past week?? Great show guys, thank you!!
Thanks for an excellent insightful unbiased overview of the current state of World Rugby & especially the Southern Hemisphere. The full rested Boks bring something special to the Paddock. In Argentina the team struggled because of the back line cohesion without Damian DA, especially on defence. Also the contribution of PSDT and Siya on both defence and attack is immense and makes them a very hard team to be competitive against.
Being able to select from overseas players would benefit our depth a lot. A young firing Wallace Sititi pairing with Shannon Frizell as a example at 6 and Sititi at 8 Ardie at 7 is mouth watering That’s just one example
Maybe having them play a certain amount of games for a super rugby team then letting them go overseas while being eligble for all blacks would work better as we'll get to keep the young talent in New Zealand. So we can retain players like mo'unga, frizell and laumape but keep players like sititi playing in new zealand for a bit longer.
As a South African i just want to wish the Southern teams all yhe best for the year end tour. Give them nothing take everything Every point Every single point take it all Sprinboks All Blacks Los Pumas(i prefer Argies) and last but not least Wallabies Go make us proud boys🇿🇦❤️✌️
Am I missing something re Harry Plummer and him not getting a run for the ABs? I reckon its no coincidence that Auckland won with him at the helm, and Damo is struggling there. Great show lads. Great analysis and insight into pro rugby and what it takes. Get more refs in too I reckon. Am always interested in their viewpoint, what they are focusing on and why some calls are made they way they are. They are a huge part of the game.
NZ fans now have decent footballers to follow, F1 drivers, Olympian’s who get us to 11th on the table, America’s cup sailing, league, etc (we’re a mini Aussie now eg rugby is still the national game but the fan base is diluted vs SA)
As a rugby fan I prefer this kind of analysis not one decided and biased. Well done guys I enjoy it and this is good for someone who wants to start following rugby as whole not a specific team.
Absolute superb pod again chaps.......I see NZ taking the Irish and France. That pack is coming back to form and the backline with Brodie running the 10 jumper. That back 3 are killers.........good luck
Rassie experimented all season. In this last test all the facets of the experiments glued together. Hard forward play. Fast back play But the most EVERY player think before do. Shall I run or is it better to setup a maul. Gents Just look at what Rassie achieved with Ox Nche He plays close yet be a very valuable link to the fast guys.
What does that even mean? Auckland had 2 test matches this year, they aren't going to play every home game in Auckland. If you are talking about a certain team it might be worth noting that most if not all the people on here don't know you personally or where you come from.
The weekend proved Bauden hands down needs to play 1st 5 McKenzie cant control a game like that.baudie is a better attacker as well not sideways running all the time.
You guys have an honest show, with critiques and compliments both ways. Which is why your show is better than the Breakdown show with JK and Goldie..well done!
Thx guys for a great show, always being honest with insightful comments. I would like to have your opinions on the following, The Boks are by default in a better position to building depth because their local and international bound players play in different high quality competitions and are also exposed to different styles of play in different conditions with and against other international players from other countries. Therefore, the step up for players entering the Bok setup, having been exposed prior to a higher level than Super Rugby i.e. Champions Cup, gives them more IP and confidence in an already dynamic and innovative Rassie setup. Razor is a great coach but I believe he sits at a disadvantage and NZ needs to bring in overseas based players else they will always play catchup ito IP and experience sharing. Would like to hear your thoughts Tertius (from the Republic)
Brent Hall is throwing line out😂😂you beauty bra.GUYS the boks are bringing excitement to all parts of rugby even the national anthem are involving the supporters thats the confidence that Rassie brought, he not just changing our stiles off play.Brenny is thinking outside the box ey🎉😂
Very smart the way these guys break it down-- smart rugby knowledg We had much improved oerformance starting fowards& bench💪 Bb was very steady at 10 -- but maybe plummber also would have shined🤔 Got give him proctor run against japan 😗 If dm or bb got injured we have seen another10🙄 build some depth 10 Outside backs looking strong clarke in fire- reece hus best game-- like to see reiko-- clarke there🤔clarke given run midfield- japan- italy Rating much improved😗 but that was wallabies -- improving side next northern tour lot stronger teams😁 kiwi in the phills
On the other, less good, weekly NZ rugby show, mils said from the beginning that 9 wins would be his expectation, which means three of the final five - mils as ever showing a brain his colleagues lack. Assuming wins over Japan and Italy, that means one of France Ireland England away from home. One would be quite an achievement, two would be extraordinary. Ireland, unlike NZ, managed to beat SA in SA and are grand slam champions, France will have been targeting this game all year and England and NZ seem to play out close games recently. With all the love in the world, beating a tripe Aussie team at home at the end of a six game tournament isn't really a barometer for playing up north in the cold at the end of the season. Best of luck to the abs(except when you play England)
As a die hard Springbok fan, I'll never forget the day the All Blacks smoked us 57-0. I think the Boks have learned so much from the ABs and vice versa. The Kiwis are humble and learn from their mistakes hence why they're a great rugby nation. On a side note, Bryn Hall used to be a beast of a scrum half for the Crusaders. I really expected him to be the successor to Aaron Smith. Just goes to show you how deep the competition in NZ is.
Roigard and Ratima are probably going to be the best 9 duo going forward, or at least I'd take then over Williams and Hendrikse. But we'll have to see how roigard recovers but from what's been released he seems to be coming out better than he was before.
Something that came about as a direct result of leaving Super Rugby was facing and incorporating different ideas about how to play rugby into our burgeoning Bok style. Brown has been a literal game changer. The Aussies are suffering from personnel issues more than anything else, but the relative isolation certainly hasn't helped. Razor will either learn to do what Rassie has or the AB's will get left further behind. I hope he figures out
23:00 The ABs scored a try against SA in the 1st test how you guys described it. Caleb Clarke's 2nd try, was a lineout that went over the back and Jordie batted it back, then it went easily through the hands to Caleb.
Innovation, whoever would have thought that we’d see more innovation out of South Africa than New Zealand. They way they’ve redefined the bench is just one indication that they are prepared to think further than us. Here’s one, we’ve utilised players in their non preferred position for years. So then… I have one, I want to Wallace Sititi at 12. Why not? Never having played there is not an answer.
ALB was total class at 2/5. Setup 2 tries. Should be starting. We need specialist midfilders. Now, if only Razor will move Reiko to the right wing and let Proctor have a run.
As a staunch SA supporter I agree completely with you. Rieko is not a 13 and Jordie is a makeshift 12. I believe most of your problems stem from not having a balanced midfield that are, in any case, playing our of position. Invest in some specialist centres and you'll benefit...stick to the current and you'll continue to have a dysfunctional backline.
My feeling is De Groot and Newell should never be in the same matchday 23. Neither of them offer enough around the park besides their scrum ability. Tosi offers far more from the bench. And if De Groot loses his starting spot to Tamaiti then Numia should take the spot on the bench. De Groot got horribly exposed against Arg when there were zero scrums in the first half. Yes that's an outlier but you can't have passengers in the side at test level
Cam Roigard looks a ten to me if not required at 9. Dmac has always been a great off the bench player for ABs and nothing in his 8 starts this year has changed that.
Ireland fan here. I think New Zealand are in a good place for the next World Cup. They are at the early stages of a rebuild and will only get better from here.
Bok supporter...love All blacks....sort out your selections and overseas players policy.Boks will be tested at Eden Park for sure...especially on a wet,rainy night
"take out the cards it was pretty even" It was 27 - 7 "The difference between them and other teams is they can probably survive when they have a yellow" Yeah just like in Argentina two weeks ago... James is like diet JK, wrong with a little less Sodium.
yeah he is great for 7's . I like n.z all blacks to have great speed on our wings. like we used to all the time. right now we have our most potent back Jordan playing at FB, well thats ok if we have gas on the wings. now clarke is playn pretty well. better than rece who for me is too slow, hes strong, but hes not got Leo gas. I could go with clarke on left wing leo on right with Jordan at FB
AB’s getting better. I would like to see the team learn to build set play phases up the field to work their way into scoring positions. Currently we are very good at counter attacking but when 10metres out it’s often just barge. Not many clever plays. They will need some against northern teams that are well practised against simple barge barge barge attempts.
What I love about these guys are they give excellent technical analysis, whereas the Breakdown team give more an emotional analysis of the games.
Absolutely, the technical discussions here provide great insights.
This makes me actually look at games and see the technicality. Lol they're just passionate
The breakdown presenters are AB fans, not pundits.
Good quality comments, " not so much what you see, but what you understand is happening".
Spot on!!!
Always loved ARP, such a well balanced unbiased view on rugby matters covering all relevant news. Thank you for not ignoring the Springboks' title-clinching achievement over the weekend, unlike The Breakdown.
Take Mils off The Breakdown then you're left with a bunch of ABs cheerleaders. These guys here actually got me into rugby podcasts and I've never left.. 🇿🇦
Calm down mate not all about the boks no one is ignoring there achievements
Get over your selves not all about you guys
@@deantairi8357 The Breakdown covered a competition that involved their team but failed to acknowledge or discuss the achievement of the other teams involved in the competition. We're not asking for brownie points, we're asking for better punditry that covers the entire competition. It's disappointing having only a handful of unbiased podcasts or shows in rugby. Watch Keo and Zels as the benchmark when it comes to giving teams their dues and just really unbiased all-round constructive views. ARP arguably my second favourite podcast in world rugby.
Right, thanks, you’ve saved me some time. I suspected this may happen. I don’t know if it’s worth hearing it anymore. I think I’ll watch the spider on my ceiling rather.
To the Bok supporters frustrated by the Breakdown’s silence on the Bok victory, please understand that most All Blacks fans don’t share the same views as the show. The Breakdown caters primarily to an older, inward-looking audience focused almost exclusively on the All Blacks, many of whom still consume the show via traditional TV rather than online. However, the average All Blacks supporter is quite different from the one portrayed on the show. So there’s no need to be upset. Shows like The ARP are a much better representation of the broader, rugby-loving audience in New Zealand.
I absolutely agree. This comment is 💯 on the money.
Thank you, I kinda guessed that. Another site is Pig Athletic Club, it's such a breath of fresh air of rugby views that is not overly loyal.
Question... Why is that the breakdown managed to comment on both games played during the RC for FIVE WEEKS but on the last week they can only bring themselves to speak bring about one game on the final week of the championship?
Not even ONE sentence about the second game played.
I don't know about you but I can only think of two logical reasons. One: they are trolling and wanted the reaction or Two: They genuinely have distain for the springboks.
(Note: the tone of my reply on your comment isn't one fighting but of genuinely wanting discussion)
@@nosizwemasiza740I think they are so very insular that they possibly don’t even consider anything other than the AB’s.
Its clear
Springbok Fans are fanatic about their rugby and ruthless when things don't go our way, But when things do go our way we Celebrate the whole week. We follow every rugby channel. We have Bok Friday, people dress up and go to work with their springbok shirts. Look at the stadium vibes compared to other countries. It's crazy. Branas, Braai and Rugby, that's basically what most South Africans live for. So all of this builds pressure and passion, and Rassie has managed to use it to their advantage. Thanks for this Channel love it. 💪🇿🇦🦌💥
Amen brother.
You’re the best at everything especially having big mouths 😂
@@davidwalker2402 won't disagree and we love it. Hehe
@@davidwalker2402 Don't forget the best at world cups... 4 titles, but who is counting (new zealanders are 🤣)
@davidwalker2402 You see 100 obnoxious messages on social media and suddenly 60 million people have big mouths. Interesting 🤔
My favourite rugby show by far!!!!! Much love from beautiful South Africa 🇿🇦❤❤❤
On a positive note.Lets not forget that all BOK SUPPORTERS support and cheer for NZ,AUS And ARG when playing Northen Hemisphere teams. We are proud of our Southern Hemisphere teams and our Rugby History. Lets go get them next Month!!!!
Thats the spirit - thank you and right back at cha!
Up the Sthn Hemisphere
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Absolutely yes!!!
Good point. For the year end tour I will be supporting ANY and ALL SH teams (boks, kiwis, wallabies, fiji, tonga, samoa, pumas AND japan)
Yep, with ya on that!
As a South African and Rugby Lover. Well done on an amazing show.Covering all the teams and highlighting diffrences and learnings. As a follower we listen and analyse all positive and negative critisim. Thanks team.. You cant buy matuarity and unbias discussions. Hats of to you.
💯 I still can't believe The Breakdown totally ignored the Springboks winning the Rugby Championship. They've covered all 4 teams performances the whole Rugby Championship, but when South Africa wins the trophy they silent. And they should've known people would be in the comments talking about them ignoring the Boks win. It's crazy and immature!!!
@@cici2716 This!
And they mentioned us ... unlike that other show
Your back 3 makes sense . Clark , Jordan and Sevu offer something different. Alb at 12 is brilliant
Yes , we scored against the yellow and held in when 14. Think the pressure created the frustration that lead to the yellow cards. Enjoyed the analysis in number of penalties conceded amd number if dominant tackles and carries. Very interesting
Absolute pleasure watching your show. Honest knowledgeable and objective. Give credit where it is due. From an ardent SA supporter
However, a cheeky finger wag at Bryn.... there is only one "bomb squad" and they wear green 🤣🤣
One of the best 3 rugby shows period. I also enjoy Egg chasers and Boks Office. Even though they are all from different countries what I love is the passion for rugby and the positivity.
Joh Kirwan and that bunch needs to retire seriously all they do is find fault with everyone and everything.
I concur! 2 Cents is great as well
@@theborgster8497 Yeah I'm literally watching him right now updating the rankings 😁
@@theborgster8497 & Squidge
Add Wildkard 🎉
😂 listen to Wildkard as well
37:55 Parsons gives a great insight for the public in how top achievers look at situations and that is why they are successful in their given field, sport, business and life. Always look for the solution and how to fix the situation. Great pod cast !!! Truly !
Thanks guys. I really enjoy your insights and opinions. Very fair and unbiased views.
It's a strange position to be in as a Springbok supporter.
Having the rest of the world looking to you and speaking of the way you've changed the game is flattering. We have a small glimpse into what NZ lived with for so long.
Apart from the obnoxious arrogant fans I think most South Africans are just happy to be winning and like our team are mostly gracious when we win.
We really enjoy our games against NZ and the intensity it brings.
Same over here :) - sometimes some of your fans can push our (my) buttons but its silly to think of them as the whole of the country, and vice versa
Respect To You For Saying That!@@ljawgtn1393
Trust youth more, like Rassie does, instead of waiting for injuries to older players to finally give them a chance. It's the younger and new squad members who have been standouts this year for the ABs, not the veterans, most of whom have been pretty average.
Such a great rugby pod! Balanced, technical and thoughtful! Well don’t gents.
Hoping to see 6 - Blackadder, 7 - Ardie, 8 - Satiti in the End of Year tour just to see combination. All 3 has the capacity to cover other positions and can switch easily during a game to 6 - Satiti, 7 - Blackadder, 8 - Ardie. Personally hoping to have Lakai in the squad if Razor really looking towards 2027.
On the 10 dilemma, it would be good if we can have a specialist 10 instead of backs who can play 10. I’d love what Cam Millar has done this year for Highlanders and Otago. Would be great to have a young 10 to learn from all this legends/seniors in End of Year Tour. On top of that, hoping that Proctor gets more playing time for the tour and have him plays with ALB/JB to build up chemistry. He’s another young gun with plenty to offer as a specialist center instead of using winger converts.
I must say as a South African, this show is proper analysis. These blokes have true rugby intellect always go deep and into detail. Really appreciate ARP.
You guys are very cool to listen to!!! You speak logic and look at the Boks team like you would with eyes only focusing on being a student of the game. Will say the ABs need a hard man at 12... that sets up their whole gainline issue. Wallace Sititi is the business in the loose forwards 😊
Love the unbiased views and high rugby IQ on this show
I do too, unlike the Breakdown and especially unlike that Keohane/ricardo weirdo or that Money man (both as bias as the breakdown).
In reality the biggest thing the All Blacks can truly take away from the springbok is changing the availability system to have the All Blacks being able to select any New Zealand rugby player like the springbok have the choice to select any South African rugby player they want , this would mean All Blacks could have selected this year alone , players like
Richie mounga
Shannon frizel
Fainga a Nuku
Brodie retallick
4 players that were some of the All Blacks best last year , All Blacks have a disadvantage as where the springbok have the advantage with their current selection system
Another awesome episode, gents. Congrats to Brynn for signing at the Kubota Spears - hopefully he’ll still be able to feature on the show from Japan.
The biggest difference between The boks, the All blacks or any other team is the man the myth the legend Rassie. I don't think people always realize what this guy has done in the last 6 years to get the Boks where they are today. Forget what you see on tv. The behind the scenes work, that he has done when he was Director of Rugby to being the coach. You can ask anyone that knows him. This guy eat breaths and dream rugby every minute of every day. According to a few players, he sleeps very little, he is so focused on making the Boks better and better. Thanks for a great show guys.🤙🇿🇦😎
Libbok gave Larkham/Spencer vibes against The Pumas. I still feel like they should've allowed him to kick, he can kick, he kicks at the Stormers. That was his night. He's a force to be reckoned with for sure. He showed that he is a general. And having Pollard on the bench is scary because he is a lethal finisher. Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu is a still too individualistic but the more he plays with the Boks, he'll unlearn it. That's why Libbok is first choice at the Stormers i guess because he's really team orientated. Then there's Damian Willemse as well. All of em world class. Scary & crazy depth.
The rugby analysis on this show is superb! It’s super technical but very digestible for the viewer! Top effort gents👏
I am a SA Bok fan and watch to get an unbiased or opposition view of my team. But I do enjoy your analysis of the game - thank you
As a Saffa I still believe NZ is the yardstick, especially over time. I am enjoying our current "supremacy" but I cannot wait for the Kiwis to come back. We need this rivalry to last!
Cards are a result of pressure, pumas didn't have a chance that day against the boks
Yeah I don’t know how anyone with a functioning brain can possibly state that the game “was even until the yellow cards…” the cards are a result of pressure,being overrun and getting frustrated
@whytheface777 💯
And infringing to prevent points being scored. Not rolling away in rucks, collapsing mauls and offsides etc all in the danger zone. So its a trade off. Otherwise, could commit these offences repeatedly so that no one scores tries against you
What a brilliant analysis by James Parsons regarding the "review/preview room". For me, that perfectly sums up the reason why Sotutu wasn't in the All Blacks.
John Kirwan said perhaps the reason Sotutu wasn't named in the All Blacks wasn't about what he did on the field but what was happening in the changing room.
You need players to step up when the going gets tough (even when they lose) rather than players who spit their dummies, looking for mummy, as Sotutu did judging by his post.
match interviews, and may others, he gave especially after the loss to the crusaders 2024. .
We don't want players like this who cry after every loss. We want players who learn, build and grow to continue to become better winners and take their losses as learnings so that we ultimately grow our performance to the best of our abilities...as WINNERS!
Definitely the premier NZ rugby show. Props to you all. Bokfan
Show me a better analytical rugby podcast... Someone in the comments said we 🇿🇦 suffer from inferiority complex and its a 🇳🇿 .
Weird how we admired those guys at rugby for the longest time while taking a pounding from them.
Shoe is on the other foot now and its difficult for most swallow, its sad.
@@lukhanyosotyingwa1680 The North as well as some in Australasia are having a tough time talking about a Bok team no longer conforming to the previous perceived notion that we're predictable brawlers with no plan B. You're right, guys like Mehrtens, Ben Smith, John Kirwan and others are having a tough time watching the Boks evolve into a juggernaut achieving what the best team in history did the ABs, whilst still not realising their full potential. I think there's a real fear with our new expansive plans that we're going to find a frightening level above what we're playing now. If we achieve a threepeat I'm 2027 then there's no doubt this will be the greatest team in history. That's if we're not already there.
And the arrogance iz clearly already there...
@@hydrodeep13 When your team wins and conquers you have bragging rights innit?
The verdict is better as it’s per play review
@@ClintonEastland wouldn't say you're the greatest yet, a threepeat would make you the best, given you can win in between world cups this time around. I would say that the boks are nearing the peak of their powers if they're not already there, that's why rassie is trying younger players out to replace the players who will have to leave before the next world cup.
Your analysis and feedback is of the best, if not the best, so interesting, love watching from SA.
Great show as always. Thanks guys.
greatest and most unbiased rugby show on the planet.. Thank you
James Parsons seems to love the sound of his own voice, constantly bombarding conversations. How about giving Bryn a chance to say something?
hear hear come correct boet... you are humble pie remember
Once you notice it, you can't not see it. He rambles far too much.
This is my first time watching this show, and as a Blue supporter I have to say, “ Stop talking Parsons. And especially stop talking over Bryn!”. 😂
This is by far the most intelligent rugby show. Well done. Coaches should watch this show. Well done.
You guys are so far ahead then that low budget Breakdown show. Love your input. You know what you talk about.
I don't like people saying we need to be more like the Bokke. I want us to be more like ourselves. But improve on what issues we have in our own performances both with players and coaching staff. Not beat the Bokke at thier own game. They own that. But beat them at this beautiful game of rugby.
Did u see the last Bok Arg game= beautiful. NZ has got great skills in its players. And always known as innovators. The rolling maul? Who started that( hate it or love it) But I don't think that innovation is a focus/ or competence ? NZ is like Da Vinci, all the skills, all the equipment, but absolutely blow all idea of what to paint...🤫🤔
Brother... If you hadn't noticed, the boks have been beating the ABs at their own game 💀 expansive, fast paced, offloads, cross kicks.. Only thing they haven't done is the haka 😜
@@Deletthis-gp7yy whys the haka relevant?
@@Deletthis-gp7yy no they havnt the all blacks mistake gave them the win. Given we only lost by a few point. RWC dream team vs a rebuilding All Blacks 🤣 ABs weren't so much dominated
We in Saffas cant understand the All Black selection : Beauden Barret should be the no 10 - Damian should be at 15 and Jordie must be moved to 13 Reiko is not a centre his a wing
Love ❤️ the show
Stop helping them!!!!!!!!!!
Not helping us by putting DMac at 15 lol Will Jordan is a better full back but I agree, rieko should go back to the wing where he started his career and flourished.
Beauden Barrett is NOT a 10 - he does not have the kicking game to guide the ABs around the park - he is a fullback!
MacKenzie is a great super rugby player and NOT a test player. He is a fullback who cannot take the high ball and is definitely NOT a 10!
Jordie Barrett is a 12 - played 12 during his school age and was the 2016 U20 World Cup player of the tournament as a 12!
Ioane is a centre - his speed gives him the ability to make an outside break and cover defence!
What you fail to understand that the biggest problem with the ABs is not the players - its the coaches and their failure to produce an attack game to counter the umbrella rush defence and their delusion to keep playing running, entertaining rugby!!!!
Everyone thinks they know everything we have plenty of couch pundits with opinions yours doesn’t help 😂
@@thefobbie0034 ohh my bad I forgot Beauden won IRB player of the year twice playing at 10 and then for some reason got moved to full back to accommodate a rich man’s DMac in Richie Mo’unga. The coaches are playing players out of position and it shows. Rieko’s speed is better utilised on the wing where as the centres need to have the fundamental skills of passing and tackling which Rieko lacks compared to Jordie and ALB.
This boks team reminds me of the 09 team, ruthless and great to watch
Love the show boys from Bokke land. So gutsy by Rassie to play Manie. We trust our coach and captain!!! Even when we loose!!! There is always a plan.
He was phenomenal! He's y'all Larkham/Spencer. His ability to exploit opposition defenses and put teammates into space is remarkable.
Rugby is a 23-man game. Rassie believes the 8 on the bench are good enough to start at any stage therefore trusts them to deliver for at least 30 minutes, no point replacing at 70 minutes, not enough time to get into stride and make a difference. Maybe I'm mistaken, AB's made subs earlier this past week?? Great show guys, thank you!!
Thanks for an excellent insightful unbiased overview of the current state of World Rugby & especially the Southern Hemisphere.
The full rested Boks bring something special to the Paddock.
In Argentina the team struggled because of the back line cohesion without Damian DA, especially on defence. Also the contribution of PSDT and Siya on both defence and attack is immense and makes them a very hard team to be competitive against.
Being able to select from overseas players would benefit our depth a lot.
A young firing Wallace Sititi pairing with Shannon Frizell as a example at 6 and Sititi at 8 Ardie at 7 is mouth watering
That’s just one example
Maybe having them play a certain amount of games for a super rugby team then letting them go overseas while being eligble for all blacks would work better as we'll get to keep the young talent in New Zealand. So we can retain players like mo'unga, frizell and laumape but keep players like sititi playing in new zealand for a bit longer.
Great technical analysis......the best actually .
Loved todays programme. Parsons the Man leading the talks about professionalism and owning your journey congrats guys on a great episode.
When James says.. they're happy to hold on to the ball instead of kick. That's the evolution in SA game right there
From South Africa! Really like this show
The Springboks are a happy team who play for each other and their country. Then add a great coach to the equation and you have a winning team.
Great podcast. Well balanced. Congratulations to the Boks!
One of the best podcast on Rugby at the moment together with Egg Chasers, and one or two others. 👌
Thank you for an informative and unbiased show!
As a South African i just want to wish the Southern teams all yhe best for the year end tour. Give them nothing take everything Every point Every single point take it all Sprinboks All Blacks Los Pumas(i prefer Argies) and last but not least Wallabies Go make us proud boys🇿🇦❤️✌️
Thank you for your professional journalism ❤🎉
Really great coverage. Better than the Breakdown, which did not even cover the TRC decider.
Am I missing something re Harry Plummer and him not getting a run for the ABs? I reckon its no coincidence that Auckland won with him at the helm, and Damo is struggling there. Great show lads. Great analysis and insight into pro rugby and what it takes. Get more refs in too I reckon. Am always interested in their viewpoint, what they are focusing on and why some calls are made they way they are. They are a huge part of the game.
Springboks fans indeed most ruthless. Fair😅🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
NZ fans now have decent footballers to follow, F1 drivers, Olympian’s who get us to 11th on the table, America’s cup sailing, league, etc (we’re a mini Aussie now eg rugby is still the national game but the fan base is diluted vs SA)
As a rugby fan I prefer this kind of analysis not one decided and biased. Well done guys I enjoy it and this is good for someone who wants to start following rugby as whole not a specific team.
As a south African i love your input of ruby
the lineouts are becoming really interesting - hardly see props being the primary lifters when competing. Rather locks lifting a flank etc.
Absolute superb pod again chaps.......I see NZ taking the Irish and France. That pack is coming back to form and the backline with Brodie running the 10 jumper. That back 3 are killers.........good luck
Rassie experimented all season. In this last test all the facets of the experiments glued together. Hard forward play. Fast back play But the most EVERY player think before do. Shall I run or is it better to setup a maul. Gents Just look at what Rassie achieved with Ox Nche He plays close yet be a very valuable link to the fast guys.
Next year we want the ABs at Eden Park
What does that even mean? Auckland had 2 test matches this year, they aren't going to play every home game in Auckland. If you are talking about a certain team it might be worth noting that most if not all the people on here don't know you personally or where you come from.
😂🤣🤣
Didn’t happen at Mt Smart, not happening at the garden. But I agree, let’s make it happen
NZR not that brave😂
@@Sentz89 listen WE WANT EDEN PARK
Very good show guys, well done.
A very good grown up discussion - well done and keep it up.
Springboks winning the trc acknowledged at the very start, breakdown oughta learn a thing or 2 from these blokes
The weekend proved Bauden hands down needs to play 1st 5 McKenzie cant control a game like that.baudie is a better attacker as well not sideways running all the time.
LOVE the show - best rugby show around - SAFFA fan
You guys have an honest show, with critiques and compliments both ways. Which is why your show is better than the Breakdown show with JK and Goldie..well done!
Great show. Thanks guys.
The women's game was great and my favourite game of the weekend, well done Ireland
Love this show
Way better than the breakdown
Well done
I want to see a back row with Wallace, Shanon, and Ardie!
Thx guys for a great show, always being honest with insightful comments. I would like to have your opinions on the following,
The Boks are by default in a better position to building depth because their local and international bound players play in different high quality competitions and are also exposed to different styles of play in different conditions with and against other international players from other countries. Therefore, the step up for players entering the Bok setup, having been exposed prior to a higher level than Super Rugby i.e. Champions Cup, gives them more IP and confidence in an already dynamic and innovative Rassie setup. Razor is a great coach but I believe he sits at a disadvantage and NZ needs to bring in overseas based players else they will always play catchup ito IP and experience sharing.
Would like to hear your thoughts
Tertius (from the Republic)
Brent Hall is throwing line out😂😂you beauty bra.GUYS the boks are bringing excitement to all parts of rugby even the national anthem are involving the supporters thats the confidence that Rassie brought, he not just changing our stiles off play.Brenny is thinking outside the box ey🎉😂
James Parson for president 🙌 from a SA ,just fair and objective
Very smart the way these guys break it down-- smart rugby knowledg
We had much improved oerformance starting fowards& bench💪
Bb was very steady at 10 -- but maybe plummber also would have shined🤔
Got give him proctor run against japan 😗
If dm or bb got injured we have seen another10🙄 build some depth 10
Outside backs looking strong clarke in fire- reece hus best game-- like to see reiko-- clarke there🤔clarke given run midfield- japan- italy
Rating much improved😗 but that was wallabies -- improving side next northern tour lot stronger teams😁 kiwi in the phills
On the other, less good, weekly NZ rugby show, mils said from the beginning that 9 wins would be his expectation, which means three of the final five - mils as ever showing a brain his colleagues lack. Assuming wins over Japan and Italy, that means one of France Ireland England away from home. One would be quite an achievement, two would be extraordinary. Ireland, unlike NZ, managed to beat SA in SA and are grand slam champions, France will have been targeting this game all year and England and NZ seem to play out close games recently. With all the love in the world, beating a tripe Aussie team at home at the end of a six game tournament isn't really a barometer for playing up north in the cold at the end of the season. Best of luck to the abs(except when you play England)
Huh all blacks didn’t win in South Africa unlike Ireland ….OHHHGUMMON
As a die hard Springbok fan, I'll never forget the day the All Blacks smoked us 57-0. I think the Boks have learned so much from the ABs and vice versa. The Kiwis are humble and learn from their mistakes hence why they're a great rugby nation. On a side note, Bryn Hall used to be a beast of a scrum half for the Crusaders. I really expected him to be the successor to Aaron Smith. Just goes to show you how deep the competition in NZ is.
Roigard and Ratima are probably going to be the best 9 duo going forward, or at least I'd take then over Williams and Hendrikse. But we'll have to see how roigard recovers but from what's been released he seems to be coming out better than he was before.
Wallace sititi will become a great for new zealand if he is well looked after...great player at such a young age...was ruthless against our boks
Something that came about as a direct result of leaving Super Rugby was facing and incorporating different ideas about how to play rugby into our burgeoning Bok style. Brown has been a literal game changer. The Aussies are suffering from personnel issues more than anything else, but the relative isolation certainly hasn't helped. Razor will either learn to do what Rassie has or the AB's will get left further behind. I hope he figures out
23:00 The ABs scored a try against SA in the 1st test how you guys described it. Caleb Clarke's 2nd try, was a lineout that went over the back and Jordie batted it back, then it went easily through the hands to Caleb.
Innovation, whoever would have thought that we’d see more innovation out of South Africa than New Zealand.
They way they’ve redefined the bench is just one indication that they are prepared to think further than us.
Here’s one, we’ve utilised players in their non preferred position for years.
So then… I have one, I want to Wallace Sititi at 12.
Why not?
Never having played there is not an answer.
ALB was total class at 2/5. Setup 2 tries. Should be starting. We need specialist midfilders. Now, if only Razor will move Reiko to the right wing and let Proctor have a run.
100%. Whenever ALB has been on the field this season, he has made a big difference in getting others involved.
As a staunch SA supporter I agree completely with you. Rieko is not a 13 and Jordie is a makeshift 12. I believe most of your problems stem from not having a balanced midfield that are, in any case, playing our of position. Invest in some specialist centres and you'll benefit...stick to the current and you'll continue to have a dysfunctional backline.
Umaga Jenson and ALB in the centres
They have tried to move him back but its rieko who wants to play at centre.
My feeling is De Groot and Newell should never be in the same matchday 23. Neither of them offer enough around the park besides their scrum ability. Tosi offers far more from the bench. And if De Groot loses his starting spot to Tamaiti then Numia should take the spot on the bench.
De Groot got horribly exposed against Arg when there were zero scrums in the first half. Yes that's an outlier but you can't have passengers in the side at test level
Cam Roigard looks a ten to me if not required at 9. Dmac has always been a great off the bench player for ABs and nothing in his 8 starts this year has changed that.
Yeah DMac is no slouch never has been
Superb show guys!
Daulton was our best against England he deserves hs spot back😊
Jeez the ABs have the toughest November tour...that will show us all exactly where the team is. Italy is the only sure bet.
Ireland fan here. I think New Zealand are in a good place for the next World Cup. They are at the early stages of a rebuild and will only get better from here.
A real evaluation of the weekend
Bok supporter...love All blacks....sort out your selections and overseas players policy.Boks will be tested at Eden Park for sure...especially on a wet,rainy night
"take out the cards it was pretty even"
It was 27 - 7
"The difference between them and other teams is they can probably survive when they have a yellow"
Yeah just like in Argentina two weeks ago... James is like diet JK, wrong with a little less Sodium.
Highlight of the weekend was Bryns Habour taking it to the cantabs 😂 Moses leo is rapid
yeah he is great for 7's . I like n.z all blacks to have great speed on our wings. like we used to all the time. right now we have our most potent back Jordan playing at FB, well thats ok if we have gas on the wings. now clarke is playn pretty well. better than rece who for me is too slow, hes strong, but hes not got Leo gas. I could go with clarke on left wing leo on right with Jordan at FB
I think he’s going to the Melbourne Storm
@@MagicHu yip another loss to n.z like laumapi and Faianuku I think Robertson is bringing him back into it though.
Great show gents, again!
Great pod well balanced.👍😊🇿🇦🇳🇿
AB’s getting better. I would like to see the team learn to build set play phases up the field to work their way into scoring positions. Currently we are very good at counter attacking but when 10metres out it’s often just barge. Not many clever plays. They will need some against northern teams that are well practised against simple barge barge barge attempts.
Awesome show and great rugby advise guy's
Great show guys!
Love a good Internet couch coach 😂
Excellent stuff .... Makes 'The Breakdown' ( with the exception of Marshall and Muliani ) look extremely 'one eyed'
Wallis Sititi is the new Michael Jones!
@yakkattackfacts lol
Nope, never - there is only one Michael Jones and one Jerry Collins.
h*ck yeah - he is so good
Crazy how times have changed. Who would have thought that NZ pundits/players would be looking to the Boks to improve their game.