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“He’s a Fake”: Robert Kuttner on How J.D. Vance Disguises His Anti-Worker Views as Economic Populism
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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We speak with journalist Robert Kuttner about Donald Trump’s selection of Ohio Senator J.D. Vance to be his running mate in the 2024 election. Vance rose to fame in 2016 after writing the memoir Hillbilly Elegy about his upbringing in Appalachia. He was elected to the Senate in 2022 with the backing of right-wing billionaire Peter Thiel, who spent $10 million on his candidacy. While he was a vocal critic of Trump’s politics, once comparing him to Hitler, Vance has since embraced the MAGA movement and is now one of the most vocal defenders of the former president. Vance’s elevation is “very dangerous” because it lets Republicans pretend to care about working-class voters, says Kuttner, co-founder and co-editor of The American Prospect. “Vance is much more effective at connecting Trump’s cultural and social and racist populism to what looks like pocketbook populism, except it’s a fake,” he says. “We are really screwed if we can’t find somebody who can beat this ticket - and the ticket is beatable. You just need a stronger candidate than Biden.”
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What is really worrying is the number of people who completely flip their moral compass in pursuit of power and recognition. I include Nikki Haley in this. When one stands in front of anyone, including oneself, and one can spin one's own moral compass on a dime, what hope is there?
Yes, U hit it right in the 'bulls-eye'...
Oh well, all her past supporters switched over to Kamala yesterday...
How can anyone trust him now?
@@mschlund1- We can't forget that Kamala turned on her old friend Joe Biden during the debates and called him a racist. Look where that cackling imposter is now.
Kamala did exactly the same thing to Biden.
There is a video somewhere with the caption: " Poverty isn't a lack of Character, it's a lack of Cash." Truer words were never spoken. Cheers!
Poverty is a lack of cash that isn't MEANS TESTED. Basic Income not Welfare.
Poverty isn't a lack of character but there are paths people who manage to escape poverty tske. He took 2 of them : 1) he joined military and 2) he got an education after getting out of the military. In addition, a huge number ot people helped him. None of this means poverty is the fault of the poor.
It's a TED Talk by Rutger Bregman about basic income. He's a historian and the author of "Utopia for Realists". It's a great TED Talk for sure.
"Great wealth isn't a proof of personal character, it's a myth imposed upon by the lesser ones"
SAY WHAT?? Truer words? I really do not get that. He who is without character is impoverished indeed.
Shocked the Teamsters showed up. In my 78 years I have never seen Republicans do anything but Union Bust. My mom was 45 yr union at Raytheon. Our family knew all about who supported them since I was a child and it was not Republicans.
Everything is backwards now and there's no point in those groups- so register and vote independent!
You don’t see the irony in defending Raytheon while also talking about what is best for the average American worker? 😂 The neo-cons own both sides of the aisle now, let’s be real about this. And this coming election is the Catholic Church Globalists vs the Freemason ‘New World Order’. Neither give one hot hoot about you and me.
President Biden walked the picket line.
The Democratic Party is the party of workers.
Republicans have F’d workers for decades.
You gotta expect some things to change in 78 years, don’t you?
It was the biden administration and the dems who busted up the railroad union when they wanted to strike .
As a Latina, I feel Ashamed of Lisa Moreno. Another political waste.
I think you mean WASTE 💩
@@johnbrown1851 ooops🤭I didn't check before clicking the "reply" button, but you are absolutely correct; she is a political WASTE AND A FECAL WASTE too👍.
Back over the WALL! with you!
@@harrisdupree3323 Everyone of you "Americans" are NOT Americans and I do not care whether you arrived in the MayFlower or later on! So don't you dare telling any latinos that they do not belong! They were there before all of you! An Spaniard speaking !
I agree! Working people won't get any help from her, she is there to GET what she can for HERSELF ONLY
James David Vance was picked by a Billionaire Peter Thiel to run his Venture Capitalist company, and bought his election in Ohio. Thiel also encouraged Trump to pick Vance. Vance is beholden to Thiel and the multimillionaire/ billionaire class.
He is "New" around "Train Wreck" Time, and suddenly pushed to "PICK 4 VP"
These are the things that people miss, that are Not Normal. This is where "Critical Thinking" is severely needed.
How does a New Rep get JUMPED TO VP? For a Reason.
But, he will make a Great Uncle JD for Donald's ewe.wish Grandchildren, and prob a ... zhek el ...with Prez & Uncle pic's together.
Be aware of this billionairs,they are a real treat.they spent milj on trump to get power back!!
You could be correct. However, we know with certainty that Biden's backers bought and cheated to win the 2020 election, and extend back through 60 years of scandals.
We further know they are the warmongers who once correctly called out by the Democrat populist base who also correctly called out China's litany of human rights violations.
Where does that leave "centrist" Americans?
And tucker Carlson did the talking to Trump to convince him to pick Vance. Tucker also used to be a Trump hater turning into ultra, ultra Trump and MAGA cheerleader.
@@karincarl4535 Sounds like that’s what happened. Corporate buyout of a person. Probably Thiel wants no taxes to have to pay.
JD vance didn't grow up in appalachia. The suburbs of Cincinnati isn't Appalachia.
He didn't say he grew up in Appalachia. He moved away when he was young, but visited often and felt connected.
@@BigAl444 He was born and raised in Ohio and went to Appalachia with his grandmother on frequent visits. Read his memoir.
@@YaelIvet_NYC I'd rather drink hemlock than read Vance's prose. I have a Scottish grandmother, being English myself, and visited Inverness very often with her, I wouldn't dream of claiming to 'feel connected' to the degree that would allow me to represent (with truthfulness, that is) life in the Great Glen. Assuming you care about books that masterfully convey the experience of life in Appalachia, I recommend the books of a real writer (and literary giant, very much unlike Vance -the cultural opportunist and fraud) like Barbara Kingsolver.
@@allegory6393 It seems people are easily impressed by the fact that Vance has been able to write a whole book.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx - Oh come on, be fair...Vance's book has large print and at least 50 pages...anybody can read, but only if they want to. And now that he's famous I expect it'll have to have an extra print run...maybe even 100 more copies.
Vance wrote a book about how miserable his life growing up was. As an adult he didn't work to make anything better for those stuck in his same situation, instead he went into private equity. You know, private equity, that financial mechanism that extracts the most amount of value from a business, and transfers that wealth to the few general partners.
Everyone loses - the business, the employees, the local consumers, the tax payers.... everyone except for the general partners of course!
Self-serving snake .
Ok, so you think the government would do a better job allocating capital ?
This is AMERICA. No one cares about poor people...red or blue. We are ruled by Corporate Capitalists.
@@ryeisenmanone is helping people. The other is helping rich people. Give us a break.
Just like Kamala's BULLSHIT memories of "Growing up a poor Black child in America" while in fact living very well in an Upper-Middle Class suburb of Montreal, Canada with her PHD University Professor Father & Biologist Mother raising her in very observant Tamil Indian family
He referred to Donald Trump as cultural heroin and said he was a never Trumper... fast forward, now he's on the ticket with Trump; that tells us everything we need to know about that two faced, confused, opportunist. I am convinced that there's no one sincere in politics.
Well said, thank you!
Please vote for the Green & Dr. Jill Stein. TY x
Are people not allowed to change their mind by what they see or notice?
You are dead WRONG. Wait for it. It's gonna be a real revelation to all who've been paying no attention, a real dilly!
he is not confused he is a weasel
Now they are talking like the care about the working class, give me a break. All you have to do is look at the economic cost of Project 2025.
Newest incarnation of trickle down.
RE: "Project 2025"... They plan to eliminate Unions and worker protections. I was smh when I saw the representative of the Teamster's Union publicly climb into bed with them at the RNC. Somebody needs to get that man out of there and fast. He betrayed the people he's paid to represent by not doing his homework before cashing the RNC check. Truckers... I'm so serious. You really need to get rid of that guy. Might even want to dig deeper into the finances.
You know that is a fantasy from a far right think tank?
I’ve read Project 2025 and I don’t see what you’re freaking out about! 1)Reducing school lunches? We throw away the majority of those lunches. My sister who is an office manager at an elementary school has told me they throw away the majority of the food supplied all over California. 2)Reduce SNAP benefits? Too many people are on the dole in this country. We are paying for people that could be working and are sucking of the government teat! Only those who really need it should get it, like our mentally ill and disabled who can’t support themselves. 3)Outlawing pornography? That would be a good thing for this nation and it will probably reduce sexual crimes, too! 4)Stopping government funding to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting? Half a billion dollars are squandered on leftist opinion each year. Why should conservatives be forced to pay for the suppression of its own views. As Thomas Jefferson put it, “To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical.” It would be absolutely fantastic if they did this. Why should we pay for this? Pay for your own opinionated programming. Only public service announcements should be paid for
Just from these few proposals, our costs would be reduced. I don’t see anything wrong with any of that. Do you? Just what are you afraid of? You have much more to fear from Agenda 2030 and the GrEaT rEsEt. Check out the prison you’ll be in if those elites get reelected!
I read some parts of this Project 2025 and also listened to some news sources commenting about it. To be honest, I have not seen the bad or evil part the people is yelling about. You shouldn't believe all the mainstream propaganda bullshit around you, it is nothing more than distraction and brainwashing, especially from the left (no i'm not right wing). If you really wanna worry about something important, pay attention to the World Economic Forum, Blackrock, the Military Industrial complex, George Soros, Bill Gates and all these criminal globalists. Those are the real enemies.
Vance better Not Screw with the American People because we’ve had enough!
We are sick of the f--ing deceit.
So we are watching and listening closely.
Me too!!!
The goal is a Good self-governing country in which all citizens are those who HAVE a Decent Livelihood, i.e., none are in deprivation (or none are HAVE-NOTS) of enough of the (6) external elements which together comprise a Decent Livelihood. Those (6) external elements are:
1 )
A decent supply of the means of subsistence.
2 )
Living & working conditions conducive to health.
3 )
Medical care.
4 )
Opportunities for access to the pleasures of sense as well as the pleasures of play & the aesthetic pleasures.
5 )
Opportunities for access to the goods of the mind through educational facilities in youth & adult life.
6 )
Enough free time from subsistence work both in youth & adult life to take advantage of these opportunities.
Vote Kennedy
@@thomasd2444 This is Vance's goal?
@@kathiedito1318 Amen! "ISA"
funny how the applause died down when he said "bipartisan" LOL!!
They never get specific about the Questions and Problems they have with the 2020 election. Never ever.
The mysterious 3am ballot drops, in key swing states all at the same time. The truckers who reported delivering ballots across state lines, but then were shut up by FBI. The big water leak that forced all poll watchers out in Fulton County that was just a running toilet. The countless numbers of illegal drop boxes. The countless number of changed laws right before the election.
FACTS! WHYYYYY?
The only fraud in the 2020 election was done by trump, his lawyers, and Bannon. The fake electors scheme in six states that he lost. When that didn't work rump turned his followers loose on the capital
Except they do, that's why there is still litigation going on to this day in Georgia.
@@earlysda don’t go giving any specifics now.
He’s against minimum wage and NEVER walked with then UNIONS.. he is a Venture Capitalist why would he be for the average worker..✌🏽
So you're a Marxist too
Only because a billionaire paid for him to be a venture capitalist!
Oh well maybe when he's elected can just pull a dem move and raise the minimum wage and then we can all be like CALI, NY, ILLINOIS..NO JOBS, BUSINESSES SHUTTING DOWN AND JUST MORE WHINING FROM YOU AND PPL LIKE YOU. HELL WHY WOULDN'T ANYONE WANNA DO THAT??? Y'ALL R JUST SO SMART
Because the government collects more in taxes from people working than from "taxing the rich" that the Democrats claim [which is hilarious, because THEY ARE the rich -- you really think they are going to tax themselves...?]. Problem the Dems have is that when people are working, they are not depending on the government, so the Dems lose their voter base -- and they can't have that.
Minimum wage is a salary cap on the poor and corporate collusion to fix wages. Since fiat currency and globalism, it only benefits multinational corporations.
As corporations become richer and workers poorer, the tipping point gets closer.
❤
We are There
Corporations make money with American workers or without. Would you agree that outsourcing jobs makes Americans poorer?
Under Traitor Joe, every single American got poorer except his billionaires oligarchs friends.
I know sleepy Joe Brandon has ruined the nation totally ,no middle class,the back bone of corpo rations have been squashed out ,they have become poorer and the corporations have become wealthier,thanks democRATS
Shady JD is just gross. How his wife can stand by him is beyond me. Vote Blue!
Why in the world is no one asking, ' how are your parents going to live without Social Security and no health insurance?'
Someone asked to start asking that question and giving us answers !
They always bring up that tired old threat . And the republicans rebuke it everytime . When has the social security changed ??? Why not ask yourself how it will survive with millions of immigrants being put on SSI/ SSD plus medical ??? Lets see whats left after that ? Thank you democrats!
My parents are dead. I’m more concerned about if I will have Social Security. I know I won;t if the Dems get in because they are giving away all of our money to illegals. They won’t be able to keep up this level of free handouts. Social Security and Medicare will die!
@@sharonolson5782 typical democrat fear mongering!
Our social security has been spent by Kamala Harris opening the boarder.
@@christiejohnston8538, nonsense
By dumbing down "worker" to mean only industrial factory workers and truckers means leaving out everyone in the gig economy and everyone engaged in unpaid care or producing unrenumerated art...
The new wage slaves hiding in plain sight. Wicked.
@virginiatierney408 I think the mean worker as opposed to owner of the enterprise. Someone paid by someone else. But good point, nonetheless.
I think he means who isn’t living off of passive income or buddies with Thiel.
Excellent point. That's a very common GOP strategy so they can tap into the middle American, white working class emotional self-image of "worker," rather than the reality of the average worker.
What JD doesn’t tell you is when he was in the military he was a public relations guy, not boots on the ground.
And what did you do in the military?
His MOS was Combat Journalist. It's a respectable service to this country. Ask yourself how many veterans are getting disability for PTSD that never served on a combat mission. Look at the US generals to see how many generals don't have a CIB award (i.e. the 'blue knife award' is designed to appear like a CIB from a distance but it's just a 'I brought a knife to a gun show' award - aka, no combat fighting needed, 10mi from any active combat site, stayed in the safe zone - aka REMF material).
@@user-kb3tp6un1hJD was not boots on ground. Period.
And you typed that bullshit.😂😂😂
That it's correct... Public knowledge he was not boots on the ground... PR!
They play the music loud so delegates can't communicate w/each other well.
Another thing I love is they keep calling Vance a former Marine. Technically true. But he served 4 years as a combat correspondent with only 6 months in Iraq and never, ever even close to being in harm's way
He joined the Marines from a poor family, obviously it was the Marines who assigned him that job. It is Waltz who keeping boasting about his military service,
"The American public are not stupid!" Well, suck on this: "There are two things that are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, but I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein died in 1955.....
@@mozartsbumbumsrus7750 youtube liberal red neck vance
You know the "sainted" Einstein wasn't all that bright, right? His wife on the other hand...
@@albertfinney1328"sainted"? Never heard that one before. I fear he wasn't into fairy tales. Not bright? Compared to who?
They may well not be …but they are seduced by someone who is ….and is convincing them that he is very much smarter.
@@pruecook5064That appears to be true. But if the people are seduced by the stupids, are the people not complicit in being stupid? We're all of us conned at some point. We were stupid at that point. Even a genius is stupid sometimes. I think that sapiens is a failed species even though there are brilliant minds among us. We learn by the imperative of making mistakes. We shut the barn door AFTER the horse has already bolted. We improve aircraft after it crashes. Evolution requires death. Is their a fine line between death and extinction? Stupid is as stupid does. The people get the government they deserve and deserve the government they get. President tRump, Putin, Hitler, Lenin, Pott, Orban, Stalin, etc. A recent poll states that 98% of Israelis approve of what they are doing to Palestine and Palestinians.
J.D. Vance looks like a younger version of Jerry Falwell
Probably same level of genuineness, honesty, and loyalty too!
Ole Vance just told us that he has no problem being lawless as long as it benefits multi millionaires and billionaires. A poor person whose family is hungry and steals a loaf of bread, put them in jail for 2 to 5 years and accuse them of using drugs.
That’s a myth. The who,e Hillbilly Elegy is a myth and despised by people who live in Appalachia.
Great comment. Spot on 💯.
This is outdated. President Biden has done a great deal for the middle class. He has stepped aside and Kamala Harris will be on the Democratic ticket. She is an excellent candidate and is young. I’m watching an outdated clip.
@@dotmurphy7279 - It's been deeply disappointing to learn that Vance is tight with Peter Thiel, David, Sacks, and Elon Musk, associations that make him potentially as troubling as RFKjr's VP choice. Transhumanist technocrats are terrifying.
@@Riley0509now I'm going to watch that movie.
We need third party inclusion and ranked choice voting.
An end to gerrymandering, an end to legalized bribery of politicians, and end to insider trading, qualified immunity.
And the budget... military spending is inflated and unaccounted, civilian infrastructure is hostile and inaccessible.
Obvious problems.. wth
Vance is wholly owned by Peter Thiel.
Their ALL owned by someone friend. ALL of them both sides.
@@jdaze1that's a lazy distortion. There's a big difference in the parties.. Republicans are 100% for the billionaires and they use divisive rhetoric to divide the working people.
... and Donnie will be pissed when he figures out that JD isn't wholly owned by him.
@@jdaze1 No, not all are 'owned' and certainly not Bernie Sanders.
Who owns the Uniparty that opposes Trump?
When they keep saying.... Take our country back, what does that mean? Back to when? Shouldn't countries move forward? Asking for a friend 🙂
They mean "make America white and ignorant, again".
Take it back to the none-woke era. no more abortion, no more wars, no entitlement, no more shit from liberal ideologies.
Is it moving forward to important millions of people who understand nothing about what makes the country work?
"They're not Republican, they're Latinos, they're black, they're Asian, they're Indian." - Lisa Moreno, quite the Freuidian slip there
No, the tent is bigger.
Vance will be exposed. Whether or not that makes a difference, no one knows, but exposing him will be the only chance to defeat him.
Expose him for what? Being a good husband and father? Pulling himself out of poverty? What? Proof?
@@suew4609 Whether or not he grew up poor or lower middle-class is irrelevant. I’m sure some of the worst actors in history were sweet children at some point who may have grown up in poverty. I am commenting on the 39 year-old man who has been bankrolled by tech billionaires through two jobs and one ultimately failed business venture, and coddled financially as a senator who now has become one of the most extreme politicians in an already extreme party. His hypocrisy is already exposed, and I don’t think he cares. When I say he will be exposed I am referring very specifically to the puppet strings attached to him from the federalist Society and the project 2025 sociopathic authors. Dismantling the levers of government and the fundamentals of democracy, which they failed to understand, have allowed for incredible wealth generation, all to hoard, political and financial power in the hands of an empty vessel as president, whether that be Donald Trump or JD Vance. If you think otherwise, you should consider removing your head from your rectum.
Nobody pulls themselves out of poverty. If that were true the guy on Castaway would have returned home a billionaire. Individual success only comes by way of selling out. Real relief of poverty is only attained through socialism.
So Peter Thiel owns J.D. BIGLY!
Don't you mean 'big league', professor?
@@fubokuen Tremendously beautifully big league. The likes of which the world has (ignorantly, redundantly) never seen before. A lot of (unsubstantiated and unquantifiable masses) of people are always saying it.....the painfully obvious charlatan demagogue with a well documented history of being a fraudster 🍊🤡
And Russia too...
It's pronounced 'Steele '
I actually think Sarah Palin's VP nomination effected John McCain Presidential run, in a pretty negative way, it changed my vote.
Ya, he says VPs don't matter but the selection of Vance has set his hair on fire.
Well she was /is a complete idiot and demonstrated such - certainly no way she could have stepped into "the" job.
Absolutely, especially when she started talking
It affected the election because of the democRAT media only ruined a great leader with the lies and slanders and making fun and disgracing her,What a shame for American
Yup
One question and he got it wrong. Pence knew it wasn’t legal and followed the law.
Pence did nothing because he always takes the easy way out.
That choice is going to haunt the GOP. He's a horrible pick, before and after the Harris campaign launch.
He is still better than Harris Who locked up innocent ppl and Hide the evidence that they should been free!
I think no. Horrible pick, of course, somethng is behind it. Always strategic moves unrecognized till over. For some reason for some short time Vance is in the broad light of day. Something worthwhile will come of it, certainly not any presidential position.
Well in fairness, the top of this ticket is a horrible pick as well.
ALL politicians are phonies and liars
5 days later and the rains stopped; going to have to do better than that
Vance's family did not move from Ohio to Kentucky, just the opposite. The grandparents were in Appalachia Kentucky & moved to Middletown OH where JD was born. What else have you told incorrectly?
Thar wasn't the point. It's that the book portrays poor people as lovers, lazy, responsible for their situation instead of presenting the real facts. An old myth.
that's interesting. thank you for clarifying this point.
@@amber40494 have you read the book? It's far more nuanced than that. It talks about both structural issues and cultural issues as drivers of poverty and how those forces interact with each other. Kuttner completely misrepresented what's in the book.
peter thiel's casting couch boy lol
he's a rainbow boy
He got many things wrong.
Kuttner's phrase, "Democracy Then" is one to remember. Bone chilling thought.
Kuttner's phrase is fear mongering.
Trump had 4 years to kill Democracy, and he didn't. The Dems run on unfounded fear. That's a terrible and dishonest way to run a campaign.
I was expecting Donald Trump to choose Hannibal Lecter to be his running mate.
Perfecto!😵💫🤡
@@hubrisonics9517 the "late, great" Hannibal Lecter 🤣 WTF!!
Vance is close enough
Trump is worried about JD VANCE up staging him?!
.... did you SEE JD speak at the convention? What a loser. JD is the guy that tells the cocktail party that he and his wife said something very funny the other day, and laughing at that revelation.
And he should be worried.
Trump looks real old and fat next to Vance
trump aint worried bout shhht jack
Like to know how he paid off his 150k student loan and started a venture capital business
His grooming started a while back, no less obama..
Maybe Peter Thiel paid them off.
Peter Thiel helped Vance get his first 3 jobs which he didn't do too well at. Peter Thiel also spent $15 million to purchase a senate seat for Vance.
He went on G.I. Bill to Ohio State and then got a scholarship to go to Yale.
he had a best selling book, maybe you should open a book every once in a while.
In this case it matters who the VP is ,if they make it to the White House and something happing to Trump then this young man would be the next president.
"In this case... "??? In ALL cases. This matter has always been a concern for ALL presidential races.
@@alexleanh100%. I cannot fathom cackling Kamala 😮
@@Scooter430 Sure, Kamala is not ideal but still better than Vance.
@@alexleanh Harris is not better than Vance.
@@bwofficial1776 She is way better than him in every area, from her law career to her experience as a politician and most of all her loyalty. JD Vance is a neophyte in the political world, and already he has shown his hypocrisy and double-facing with his little to no experience as a junior senator who has served less than a year and a half.
39 really, what the hell was he thinking oh i forgot btrump does not think. Nominated a BABY and smarter than him. Vote blue
huh? Nominated a baby? btrump will be your next president. Enjoy the next 4 years sweetheart lol 😘
JFK was only 46 when he was killed
Lisa Moreno calling 45 a “ family man and a fearless leader” really turned my stomach. 🤮
well DJT has certainly raised a successful family (and not degenerates like ol' creeping Joe raised) and he is definitely fearless, so your point is????
We have a ‘ good cop, bad cop ‘ trick going on. While Trump is taking an uncharacteristically’ new leaf gentler guy’
While , if you listen to Vance in present and past comments you realize he is an exact image of the 2016 Trump…
Good observation. Tricky red hats.
The Radical Leftists are hating America, in fact this WH inflicted more damage to our country than Fascist Putler and Communist China combined.
Very correctly stated. One could hardly trust someone who “jumps the fence” so readily.
yeah new leaf gentler guy while he's calling people who dont vote for him vermin
@jaelancaster5506 he he. Reminds me. Didn't Vlad Putin endorse Biden a while back? While "Sergei Lavrov endorses Trump. THAT is hilarious 😂
Peter Thiel tapped JD Vance not Trump.
I think you are correct. Trump wouldn’t have chosen a guy who criticized him so intensely just a few years ago.
Yes Trump would and did. Vance is a friend of Don, Jr. and Vavak
@@vickiegibson2920ALL the same!
How much did Thiel contribute to trump for Vance?
@@tapptom Good question
Latinos for Donald Trump = Chickens for Colonel Sanders
Huh?????
That’s all ya got huh? Your going to belittle and create disdain for your friends and family that disagree with you.
@@KickRocks343 No, that's not ALL I got. As for my friends and family, not a single one of them disagrees with me.
I can not believe that there are many who are this ignorant.🙄
@@RandomActsofCruelty-gu1mhthat doesn’t say much about the people who surround you.
HE is deeply misogynistic, victim-blaming, and hypocritical
There is that name calling against. As for victim blaming, he blames the corporations for their impoverishment of the Rust Belt not the people he grew up with.
Kuttner: ' JD Vance is a fake economic populist!... btw, all the corporate and big business republicans hate Vance"
Does this guy listen to himself?
No. Cognitive Dissonance, untreated and internalized, creates zealots.
And who's the party of hate? 😅
The republicans
@@andrewmcnamara6978LOL! Sure, kid. 😂
You seriously asking?
@@andrewmcnamara6978thanks for the laughs sweetheart teeehee
And you think there’s a party that isn’t? Another clown 🤡
A “very dangerous fake”! Great description! But “likeable”? Can’t stand to look at his face! Hatred, disgust, loathing, smugness seethes from his every pore! He has contempt for his fellow man.
Ted Bundy was seen to be handsome, likeable, charming, intelligent....but he was a violent narcissist.
JD Vance is also against any abortions, no exceptions - no on IVF - women should be forced to stay in violent relationships - their menstrual cycles should be tracked through a database and they should forced to breed babies as long as they possibly can.
And not allowed to leave the state
That’s up to each state to decide, the Supreme Court ruled that way.
Handmaids tale stuff. Super scary.
100% truth. Trump and Vance will own every woman's organs from puberty age.
@@maxinemoo6972 until they make it a national abortion ban putting it over state's rights.
Trump can't keep his lines straight either, heck Trump can't even keep his lies straight ...
Biden can't even keep his pants clean.
Which lies?? Former dem here...win me back. And I don't mean switched 20 years ago, like end of 2021...bring it on, say something worth saying
True
I had to look online to make sure JD didn't stand for Jefferson Davis. Also his military service is puffed up as he was a reporter/office worker.
Harris 2024.
Thank you,God.
JD Vance was in the Public Affairs section of the Marine Aircraft Wing and was deployed for 6 months to Iraq as a correspondent.
Spin doctor for the Marines. Wow, how macho. Public Affairs- aren’t they journalists? Ouch!
@@war-painter Why do you say such contemptuous things? J D Vance never claimed to be "macho" but admitted he was a correspondent and did not see action, never mind yur life could be snuffed out at any time on the bases in both Iraq and Afghanistan by rockets and mortars. And may I ask about your "macho" credentials?
Vance is no for , or supportive of Democracy.! 😔☹️🥺🤨J.D. Vance is 80 years old , ( follow the money 💴) this is not a “ we the people “ individual. All this young man 🧍♂️ wants is money 💵. Beware of the oligarchs! 🤔🤨🤓🧐😎🥸👩🦰👩🏽🏫🧑🏼🎤
I am glad we are a republic
The USA has moved right in all parties.
Medicaid nor Medicaire could not pass today.
The bail-out of the people of the 1930's could not pass today. Glass-Steagall finance regulation could not pass today.
I'd argue US has swung much further right than 30s-60s. Europe has as well.
The Wall coming down accelerated the move right - loss of competition to Chicago School Free Market concept, which was not the social democratic proposal of Markets by Adam Smith.
Pay attention to Thiel who funds Vance, and US nationalism, is actually German, and also funding right wing parties in Europe.
The New Deal is the source of a lot of our problems. Other sources are the Federal Reserve Board, the Income Tax, and the direct election of Senators.
The only thing that can pass almost unanimously is unending money for the two wars their involved in
@@annettemacdonald9192 Trumpers are challenged by basic grammar.
The goal is a Good self-governing country in which all citizens are those who HAVE a Decent Livelihood, i.e., none are in deprivation (or none are HAVE-NOTS) of enough of the (6) external elements which together comprise a Decent Livelihood. Those (6) external elements are:
1 )
A decent supply of the means of subsistence.
2 )
Living & working conditions conducive to health.
3 )
Medical care.
4 )
Opportunities for access to the pleasures of sense as well as the pleasures of play & the aesthetic pleasures.
5 )
Opportunities for access to the goods of the mind through educational facilities in youth & adult life.
6 )
Enough free time from subsistence work both in youth & adult life to take advantage of these opportunities.
Sean O’Brian got to say things at the RNC Convention that a hardcore Republican audience has probably never heard, and by their reaction it wasn’t badly received. I think it was a great move.
No it just implied that Trump et al would support the Teamsters agenda when nothing could be farther from the truth.
Any cut I have had is healed enough in 3 days that I can stop using a bandage.
Like when people wear neck braces to court trials...
@@OhGeeWillickersMisterOr when murderers come to court in wheelchairs.
Trump wants the attention and wants sympathy from voters. I wonder if trump wore those spurs on his feet the same way?
Are you in your late seventies?
Its really a square bandage covering up the new brain implant from Elon, to run trump from a computer…lol
People need jobs, access to quality education. Noone has done anything for Appalachian people
Or anything for homeless people who live in one of the wealthiest counties of PA. There is no more funding! That's ridiculous!!
Living in California, where public school education is terrible, I could say democrats are doing nothing to create new jobs and quality education. I used to be a democrats but republicans my only hope now.
Kuttner must have been distracted during the interview, since he did not deliver a very convincing criticism of J. D. Vance. At once point Goodman asked a great follow-up question, but Kuttner totally missed the opportunity to explain his ideas.
@@misterlyle. youtube liberal red neck.vance
And at the beginning of the interview he stated that Vance's family moved from Ohio to Kentucky.
No, he didn’t, and I don’t think he has one. He’s just trying to demonize the guy with no evidence!
@@YaelIvet_NYC Just read Vance's book and Kuttner DID get this backwards, which disappointed me. It damages Kuttner's credibility. However, I agree that Vance is not whom he seems to be. He says "Not in the pocket of big businesses" and he is IN exactly that kind of pocket. He told on himself.
If Trump pulls out the race and/or misogyny card against Harris, will we see Vance standing up for his own wife, who has already copped some insults from the MAGA crowd?
robbert f Kennedy is running!! my vote !!!
Nope
Vance's wife is a DEI hire.
@@DaveTalks985 What is a DEI? I think it's Latin for "god."
Doubt it! Or more likely, it will be an "all Indians except certain ones like my wife" thing
Kamala did not ever say Biden make her go to the back of the bus. She was talking about having being bused to a different school. JUST LEAVE IT TO MAGA...DAMN!!!!!!!!
So homelessness, poverty, unmanageable rent control, and unemployment represents "economic populism".
Yep, instead of basic human rights
Not at all but don't be naive enough to believe Republicans will address these issues. Get a grip buddy and get your head out of the sand
Yes, when you ask people who hate populism , Trump, and Vance. If you want the truth, you don’t get your info from people who hate or oppose it, you ask people who do support it or are unbiased
Here’s another guy making excuses for the vitamin ministration. It was all Trump that started making our guests are gas prices under two dollars and food cost come down and energy cost. I’m sick of listening to these lying communist make themselves rich.
Here’s another guy making excuses for the vitamin ministration. It was all Trump that started making our guests are gas prices under two dollars and food cost come down and energy cost. I’m sick of listening to these lying communist make themselves rich.
Glenn Greenwald did a better job covering Vance. More fair and balanced and he was far more specific about Vance’s voting history.
I would expect nothing less from Glenn
@@annettemacdonald9192- Greenwald is a Universal Treasure.
Glenn did not cover the Peter thiel aspect nor the Vc aspect. He really dropped the ball re Vance
Man, I'm so glad I stopped thinking like you people. My life is so much better now.
JV is not so different from Trump in terms of ethics. The word “ Upstaging Trump” is a very good one to me.
Interviewer: "Can you please give us specific examples of Vance's voting history that shows him really to be anti-worker?"
Interviewee: "Well, it's all terrible, he's a fake, he did the things! And besides that Joe Biden is simply wonderful!"
Oh lord, is this journalism?
They have to smear him. It's a joke. The people who listen to Democracy Now won't use Freespoke or any other browser to find any other alternate news anyway. They are all snookered, naive and trusting of these folks who affirm their confirmation bias. They won't even watch the RNC convention for themselves only the snippets and viewpoints people like these on MSM give them to shape their views.
if you actually listened you would have heard that he's not a Biden guy.
11:00 on.
@camille9803 but he's already trying to make it Racist... As Mixers, we resent these types of guys
LOL!! Right, Joe Biden is 💯% wonderful. Oh please stop the misleading bullshit. No one is perfect on earth, absolutely no one. But "there are limits to what a man in power should do or NOT DO AT ALL". REGARDLESS OF WHAT POLITICAL PARTY HE BELONGS TO. God please HELP OUR COUNTRY. There are absolutely too many "phony" Politicians and other "fake" business corporate CEO'S IN AMERICA. GOD HELP US FIND "HONEST GOOD PEOPLE" SERVE IN CONGRESS SOON. 2024-2025.
Did you actually even read the book ? If you had he wasn’t making a judgement call on the poor and lower middle class. He was telling the story of his own family.
Either you weren't paying attention to what he said or you didn't understand
His side of the story. What would his other family members say?
marcus, it is doubtful that anybody supporting this channel has any idea about what Vance believes except what the talking heads on this channel tell them.
He was willing to stretch his own truth, similar to what Kristi Noem was willing to do. I think his flip flopping on trump and other issues makes him suspect. I need to see courage of conviction, not flip flopping.
Hmm. I’ll have to reread the last part of the book, because I thought his message was a “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” kind of message. I’ll check his voting record. That generally shows what a Congress person’s thinking is.
“Never a Trump guy! Never like him! Terrible candidate! You are an idiot if you vote him “ J.D Vance! Weird creepy duo!
Sean O'Brien does not speak for every Teamster make sure you all know it
This video could almost be an SNL satire of NPR.
We know Vance has no answers and is wrong because the rust belt crumbled to dust 30 years ago AND THEN ppl turned to drugs to cope. The drug abuse wasn't the cause but the response- the outcome of that shattering. Their subconscious brains correctly recognized they have no meaningful control over their economic destiny and to numb that pain they turned to drugs and alcohol.
The American Hitler just picked his Mussolini!
He even Applauds himself. The Nugget 😂
If you really analyze J D Vance, accomplishments regarding working people policies, there are none.
You had me up to the point of saying Biden is not the right candidate. Democracy gave Biden the mandate and switching boats in turbulent waters is fool-hearty. I am disappointed.
This is correct. Demanding a level playing field (Constitutional principles) welds the party bases to the center base.
Right now, Trump is winning this strategy. Whether this is for show or not is a separate discussion.
Letting Bill Kristol and Liz Cheney speak for the Democrats should tell the Base everything they need to know.
The Republican base ejected them for a reason.
I disagree the east coast, RI etc, gave Biden the go ahead. We in the west have no say in primaries for potus. The system should include All states at the same time with rank choice voting for who should represent All Americans.
@@karenwaddell9396 Hi Karen: I agree that all states should have a say. I am from Canada and don't fully understand the elements of US governance that clash with my own ideas of democracy. My country is not as democratic as I want it to be. One person one vote is my idea of democracy in action. The Electoral College system and gerrymandering and Huge Money directing politics are dangers (as I see it) to democracy. My interest in American politics is that the decisions and direction the US takes has a profound affect on Canada and countries around the world. My comment is in harmony with " Pro-Biden/Harris" views of AOC and folks like John Flannery. It reflects my own love of democracy. All the best. I am rooting for a free and democratic America. 🌎❤Carolyn PS. I also agree with rank choice voting
One party rhetorically abandons the working class and the other takes them in. How is this a surprise?
Really? Over 10 million illegals taking working class jobs. That's how you support workers. Too dumb to realize it though. Nothing but propaganda on this channel.
I agree the demonrats have let the American people down.
They take them in..and make their problems worse.
I’ve been working in construction for 40 yrs…Regan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 & Trump were all better for me as a blue collar individual…trump was the best!…the worst was Obama & Biden!!!
@@burdineblue you’re talking about political realism. I was simply talking about political rhetoric. in terms of political realism, for sure both parties operate for the same financial institutions and special interest groups.
Kennedy is the only candidate thats not fake. Intelligent fought for americans as an attorney. That has been his career. People love him. They need to vote for him
Lol yes and he can hunt and eat bear cubs! He crazy! 😂
I’m a teamsters of 37 years and very disappointed with Sean O’Brien. He had no business at the RNC.
Yes, blame the victim is the message I took away from Hillbilly Elegy.
Trump trusts losers
I grew up and still live in a rural county that is even poorer and less populated than where he's from, and I agree.
In our communities there's two types of hillbillies, there's the poor hardworking and humble rednecks, and those "rednecks" whom are apart of the few affluent families who employ us. Their worldview typically (although there are exceptions) reflects a deep hatred and contempt for us, as if we're poor simply because we're bad and lazy people who didn't work as hard as them. Which ultimately is just a way to justify to themselves why they can treat us like cattle. Vance and everything he espouses reminds me of them, not of my peers.
I think it would be charitable to just assume that he's victim blaming, and that he doesn't actively view us a worthless cattle, considering he's a venture capitalist worth millions.
Yes... we should all be victims. 😂😂😂
Then you read it wrong.
Or maybe you can’t read
The GOP love to hear this narrative. Helps them sleep at night.
Boy, like the man said "you can't fix stupid"
Right? These Republicans 🤣
@@gpw203how do you know what was in Crooks mind?
@@gpw203 Well with this type of low empathy power hungry politicians they never have had integrity so they say or do whatever they can to get ahead flipping opinions left and right there are good odds he never supported any of these opinions because sociopathic conmen can't be trusted on their word.
@@SK-jo8dk "Tell me you don't follow actual news and just guzzle down disinformation without telling me you don't follow actual news and just guzzle down disinformation."
Workers MUST own and control the means of production. Anything less is slavery.
That "idea" failed and resulted in over 100 million dead. A free market is the best the world has. It lifts more people out of poverty than any socialism ever did. It encourages entrepreneurship and business start ups, competitive pricing and growth which benefit the consumer. It opens up options to the buying public. Which in turn results in business & labor having to compete which in turn usually provides better service to the consumer. It's gives Choice. Something the left is always so big on except when it comes to the economy & our money. If workers owning their production was a successful model, we would have experienced by now and my family definitely wouldn't have fled the eastern bloc!!!
Put your faith in God, not these politicians.
O'Brien needs to be recalled at Teamster President. Good discussion on Republicans blaming poor people for not using their opportunity to become millionaires.
@@davewitter6565 That's what Vance says.
Maybe Kuttner should worry about his own party? We don't even know who this person is! When is the last time he spoke to workers?
Never has done a day of honest work in his life you can tell. People that do real work for a living dont spend time complaining about things they can't do anything about
He has multiple interviews and a TED talk from 8-10 years ago. If you're waiting for DN to show you, you'll never get it. This channel will only talk with people they agree with. This segment is an example of why people are now so ideologically insane.
A special kind of fake. An OPPORTUNIST.
As a Blackman living in KY I'm living my best life I moved here a few years ago and will never leave
J D Vance is the epitome of the level of morals and ethics in today's Republican party. 20 years ago I did not envision American politics having levels below the gutter.
Yeah a man who served in the US Marines with honor and came from poverty to success and fame. You can continue to pull your liberal division and race based woke political evil but the rest of America sees right through you. Can’t wait til November to see dividers like yourself weeping in the corner. The peoples eyes have opened. To call an American soldier and rags to richest success a man who lacks integrity only shows your TDS is stage 5
That's the same as taking Marco Rubio as VP.
Really? Wasn’t 20 yrs ago “weapons of mass destruction” lie?
What's the moral difference between the DNC & RNC? The DCC ?
Both create whatever happens in Gaza and Ukraine.
Both make sure air, water and soil is as unfit as the health of its people .
Both are more dishonest than honest.
Both transfer almost 50 trillion from the US Treasury to the least deserving welfare 0.01% caste...
DN! is as misleading as CNN or Fox but ONLY its naive audience thinks otherwise.
Missed Good?man is basically the mouthpiece of international organized crime.
Democracy? NEVER
D' Mockery NOW!
And so experts say.
That was until the current one got in, then you "saw it with your own eyes".
The different between a good person and a bad person is a good person know when He make a mistake He will correct it and said so Then a bad person will not admitted it and try to hide it and continue denied it. This is the problem of this guy and those fake medias
DJT never apologizes for anything.
He actually never grew up in Appalachia he actually grew up in Northern Ohio. He had relatives in Kentucky that's where most of his story came from and a lot of them aren't happy about it.
Just like Kamala's BULLSHIT memories of "Growing up a poor Black child in America" while in fact living very well in an Upper-Middle Class suburb of Montreal, Canada with her PHD University Professor Father & Biologist Mother raising her in very observant Tamil Indian family
“STAY CLOSE TO YOU FRIENDS”
“STAY CLOSER TO YOUR ENEMIES”
In this Trump is a freaking genius.
@@CircaBEFORE you know someone else is pulling the strings. Treasonous trump is ignorant.
So is that what they're both doing?
How can the bosses party ever promote policies that support working people, it's nonsense. People need to understand what the GOP is playing at.
Repubs are doing what they do best, convincing people to vote against their own self interest. This started with reaganomics. Their base does not get they cannot be both. Pro worker and pro boss, just like reaganomics it will take years for those voting repub to wake up.
wake up and smell the roses TRUMP 2024 and more
The Democratic Party has descended into the pit of phony, from which it will never emerge.
@@harryholyfield1550 Your internet & porn will be regulated. Your religion will be chosen. your future health will be up to greedy autocrats. Good Luck
True, but I guess he, Teamster President, was trying to make a name for himself and did it as an experiment. I am sure many at the convention never listened to his words though. It was a smoke and mirror move by GOP.
Trump for prison 2024, Harris for president 2024 💙💙💙💙
Robert Kuttner was born in New York. Went to school in Berkeley CA. Why would anyone listen to his opinion. He has no idea what Appalachians have experienced. I dare Democracy Now to go to Appalachia and interview people who live there. You will get a different story.
This guy is off his rocker
I know, little Joe is spiraling downward as I type this.
@@gpw203
So did I!
I realized the Marxist media was gaslighting and lying to us!
Once I realized that I was no longer blind!
I was a never Trumper as well! Never voted for him… The Trump/Vance ticket is crushing it. Yayay!!!🎉
America is awake and wants the country back!
People change their opinions and thoughts on all sorts of things as the mature, critical think and experience!
No more media lies and gaslighting!
@@gpw203 and Kamala called Joe Biden racist whats your point? Clinton called Bernie a racist in 2016 and backed her in 2016, what your point?
Bert utter..no stuff. Say tings. Uhh Yaw dere buggy
@@nozzledrich Supporting treason ehh?
It took me an hour of digging to see what JD is really all about...dangerous!!!
Where did you do your digging?
@@kathleenamatangelo3713 youtube liberal red neck vance
Traitor to his class! Traitor to the working people!! Traitor to the country!!!
This guy is prescient! Predicted JD Vance as VP, and that Biden would step down.
USA needs wake up call for all people! Our voices r not heard no matter which party and which candidate! They all take us for granted!
This. They keep us divided by making us think that voting in one candidate will save us while the other will ruin america. Divide and conquer
If they don't hear you and take you for granted (I am not American) who do you vote for? Why vote at all? Interested to know how you solve this dilemma...
go back to sleep...
@@lefranglais1155most people don't vote
Opening your mouth shatters your disguise of intelligence.
So does butchering Mark Twain quotes...
yes but you are unwittingly talking about yourself
Here's one that these redcaps obviously missed during all those Bible studies classes they've never taken:
Proverbs 17:28: Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue.
Huh??
Ive been a proud union member since 1989. Anyone who knows. Knows, Republicans hate unions and detest workers.
Please always call him Shady Vance, thanks
Republicans have always opposed wage increase, health insurance for all, child care etc. The GOP used Mr. O’Brien at the convention.
Sean should have mentioned the GOP being anti- Union...