Why Cal Kestis is So much More Powerful Than Other Order 66 Survivors

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  • @Disposable_H3r0
    @Disposable_H3r0 2 месяца назад +1342

    I would suggest that his lack of "proper training" is his greatest strength. He is not hindered by what a Jedi CAN do, his driving force is "What does he NEED to do?" The traditional way of training a Jedi would be a handicap for Cal. Not knowing where the limits are supposed to be allows Cal to keep pushing without the concern of "will this be enough?" because it has to be enough.

    • @ReconViper1
      @ReconViper1 2 месяца назад +185

      Valid point. He's had no one telling him, "NO! That leads to the dark side." As a result, he seems to be able to tap into the dark side without fully giving himself over to it.
      Ironically, it's partly his attachment to Merrin that allows him to do that. She is his anchor in the light.

    • @TheMangekyo1011
      @TheMangekyo1011 2 месяца назад +93

      I agree with this fully. In fact it's pretty reminiscent to Luke's jedi from legends as Luke believed that hard work and dedication to the force and one's training, as well as embracing one's feelings of love for others is what brought out a Jedi's full potential. Luke also didn't believe in using midichlorian counts to measure his Jedi's potential either. Something that the prequal era of Jedi also did that limited their potential.

    • @chejedi8397
      @chejedi8397 2 месяца назад +8

      I agree with this. He's gone further because he hasn't been limited.

    • @LimmeLimbo
      @LimmeLimbo 2 месяца назад +17

      Its not a big deal, but you should replace your "CAN" with "SHOULD", since that's clearly what you meant in the context of the sentence.
      He isn't hindered by what a Jedi should(is supposed to) do. He does whatever he feels the situation requires.
      "Can" kinda ruins the whole statement lol, since he is most definitely utilizing everything a Jedi *can* do in order to achieve his goals.

    • @galacticforge77
      @galacticforge77 2 месяца назад +17

      I can sort of see this. The sequel Jedi: Survivor is called 'Survivor' for a reason, and Cal did what he had to do to survive from the Empire this entire time. I imagine Cal would have received additional training from Cere Junda, as he does recall training and lessons from both Cere and his former master as a Padawan, Jara Tapal, but obviously that time was cut short due to the pair (Cere and Cal) going their separate ways. I think Cal certainly had to learn from his experiences, he had no choice but to adapt if he was going to survive.

  • @aaronfr7685
    @aaronfr7685 2 месяца назад +925

    Cal is by far the best thing to come out of the current era of Star Wars imo

    • @travisvanalst4698
      @travisvanalst4698 Месяц назад +69

      And the funny thing is, Disney didn’t exactly have a say. Respawn are the masterminds

    • @exile6688
      @exile6688 Месяц назад +8

      Dude, the SWTOR RPG's still getting content. Besides let's face it, at the end of the day Cal's techically still just a Hero of Tython knock off.

    • @ThoraxetheImpaile100
      @ThoraxetheImpaile100 Месяц назад +17

      @@exile6688 Ehh...I don't know. Many of the exploits of the Hero of Tython are rather OP. Cal's at least seem a bit more believable.

    • @exile6688
      @exile6688 Месяц назад +1

      @@ThoraxetheImpaile100 Dude Cal's reminisant of Galen Marek force wise and you're calling SWTOR's characters OP.

    • @ThoraxetheImpaile100
      @ThoraxetheImpaile100 Месяц назад +22

      @@exile6688 While I agree that Cal is no slouch, putting him on par with the likes of Starkiller also doesn't feel right. Cal still exercises restrain. Marek rarely does, if at all.

  • @ishowspeedplug2845
    @ishowspeedplug2845 2 месяца назад +779

    just the fact he is still alive shows his strength

    • @starkillerab1582
      @starkillerab1582 2 месяца назад +13

      When will we see a Cal Kestis Vs Darth Vader Duel Happen?

    • @xanderlalla3510
      @xanderlalla3510 2 месяца назад +26

      @@starkillerab1582 Maybe in jedi survivor sequel

    • @thizzmonkey7846
      @thizzmonkey7846 2 месяца назад +1

      @@starkillerab1582so starkiller you think Cal could have potential on par with you? LOL

    • @starkillerab1582
      @starkillerab1582 2 месяца назад

      Wdym mean me? I didn’t say Starkiller I said Vader

    • @stevenwoods5787
      @stevenwoods5787 2 месяца назад +8

      @@starkillerab1582if they do that it means he’s dying at the end of the game. No way he’s surviving two encounters with him

  • @pokenectionswithprofessorp2979
    @pokenectionswithprofessorp2979 2 месяца назад +586

    I think that Cal might be so powerful because of his ability to sense information from objects. Almost like he's absorbing Jedi (and other force user) teachings whenever he's in contact with his history.

    • @Maddog-xc2zv
      @Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад +52

      a great deal, but not only. he's surely powerful in the force first hand. the rest he learned or relearned during the games evolution.

    • @Cobiscrisp6476
      @Cobiscrisp6476 2 месяца назад +32

      I suppose there could be truth to that. I mean he learned to play a song through psychometry

    • @butterflymage5623
      @butterflymage5623 Месяц назад +13

      @@Cobiscrisp6476that and with the time period he’s in he has all the practice he needs to practice the lessons he’s gleamed from that ability

    • @Dedu1214
      @Dedu1214 Месяц назад +4

      interesting theory. i like that.
      gonna set this as canon, any objections?

    • @Maddog-xc2zv
      @Maddog-xc2zv Месяц назад +16

      @@Cobiscrisp6476 He can learn fighting styles too by using that force hability, yeah that was also my point. if he learned a song just by touching the instrument, imagine in fighting skills what he learned with cere, malicos, ninth and mainly second sister, degon, bode and even Vader.

  • @jarmoliebrand2005
    @jarmoliebrand2005 2 месяца назад +288

    I wasn’t expecting Cal to be *this* powerful. He’s certainly unorthodox. From using irregular force powers to using equally irregular lightsaber fighting styles. Mostly self taught. Even opponents with great experience will never have faced someone as versatile as him. After fallen order, I thought Cal was a pretty strong, just about average Jedi with some unique skills. But after Survivor… he’s no joke.
    But, in the end, I adore him because he’s such a good character. And him and Merrin’s relationship is my favourite romantic relationship in Star Wars. Honestly… Merrin seems really powerful too. She certainly knows handy some handy rituals and spells. Invisibility and teleportation… Wow. We’ve rarely seen nightsister tap into all this power, except for smother Talzin herself. Maybe it has something to do with Merrin being about the only nightsister that’s left. But maybe she too has some very underrated potential in the force.

    • @legendgamer676
      @legendgamer676 Месяц назад +10

      Post Jedi Survivor we can expect that Cal and Merrins relationship will only continue to grow and develop and they are likely going to be training together in combat. Honestly if they both teamed up at full power I would not expect anyone alive in that era save for Vader or Palpatine to survive that.

    • @Mr_Triscuit
      @Mr_Triscuit 13 дней назад +1

      He's already as good as his time's best Jedi night by the end of the first game, lol.

    • @prokjohnny7414
      @prokjohnny7414 10 дней назад +1

      Maybe it’s their relationship that makes them so strong 🤔🤔🤔

  • @ProphetOfDoubt
    @ProphetOfDoubt 2 месяца назад +1549

    Cal was able to bypass the Disney lightsaber nerf when he embraces the dark side. That’s pretty powerful.

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 месяца назад +81

      Because Kathleen Kennedy didn't care about the games

    • @robertstrong6798
      @robertstrong6798 2 месяца назад

      Kennedy is like poison ☠️ when it comes to making good Star Wars

    • @skateboardin99amer22
      @skateboardin99amer22 2 месяца назад +153

      @@alsimmonshellspawn6021thank god she didn’t. We have one of the best characters since Luke

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 месяца назад +10

      @skateboardin99amer22 nah there are alot of great characters in the old EU

    • @skateboardin99amer22
      @skateboardin99amer22 2 месяца назад +7

      @@alsimmonshellspawn6021 in my opinion

  • @alecjackman2655
    @alecjackman2655 2 месяца назад +354

    In canon it’s also suggested by the Grand Inquisitor that following order 66 and the near eradication of the Jedi, the force tried balancing things out by blessing the few remaining Jedi, with a major boost in force power. This would explain why characters such as Cere could grow to the point of nearly defeating Darth Vader or Cal being able to take on Dagan.

    • @baki484
      @baki484 Месяц назад +1

      Source?

    • @alecjackman2655
      @alecjackman2655 Месяц назад +75

      @@baki484 in the canon book Star Wars dark legends which has a story where the Grand Inquisitor reflects on one of his defeats against Jedi Padawan Kira Ventala who he originally remembered as being a weak padawan back at the temple.

    • @Gasssolo
      @Gasssolo Месяц назад +36

      @@baki484 In OT, it is often referenced that the Force is "with" Luke. Thus this makes sense indeed.

    • @firstnamelastname9237
      @firstnamelastname9237 Месяц назад +7

      Eh, I think that’s not really reliable. Ultimately we are just seeing outliers, but those outliers already were outliers. Almost any jedi can actually reach extreme danger levels, but most don’t prioritize combat. So the few that do (Kenobi/Windu/) or who posses a greater intuition to unlocking those skills, (also windu/anakin, yoda) are way ahead.
      Toss mace windu, kenobi, probably ahsoka and kit fisto, or yoda from clone wars into the same situations Cal was in, and they’d probably utterly dominate the situation.
      Most of his feats that seem impressive are aoe feats mostly useful against weak enemies, but loads of jedi don’t actually need that.

    • @mmmaiamm3078
      @mmmaiamm3078 Месяц назад +21

      ​@@firstnamelastname9237you are talking about Jedi masters, and a grand master. Who have trained and been trained to the highest standards. Cal is just a young man who has very limited younglin training. Everything else is self taught through trials and tribulations. Put cal into the same environment and then chances are he would excel over most Jedi masters.

  • @ChrisCarrasquillo
    @ChrisCarrasquillo 2 месяца назад +413

    Jedi survivor might be the best star wars media we've gotten in the last decade.

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 2 месяца назад +274

    I Can't wait to play the final game of cal kestis story

    • @darkones4370
      @darkones4370 2 месяца назад +32

      I don't even want to see any spoilers. I played fallen order as everyone did even non SW fans. Survivor is a tone more serious

    • @marshalllatta2073
      @marshalllatta2073 2 месяца назад +9

      It exactly AM also trying to avoid spoilers

    • @dexxfa7274
      @dexxfa7274 Месяц назад +1

      I’m so excited and nervous it can be better than both previous

    • @ThoraxetheImpaile100
      @ThoraxetheImpaile100 Месяц назад +8

      Just pray that Respawn continues to keep Disney out of it.

    • @Wolfqueen007
      @Wolfqueen007 Месяц назад +1

      The creative director for both Jedi games left the company, and took a lot of senior we engineers with him, so I'm at least not holding my breath on the quality of the writing for the third game, but hopefully enough of it was outlined and enough of the original staff remains for it to be good.

  • @123ered
    @123ered 2 месяца назад +95

    I perceive Cal as a younger human version of Yoda, someone who is at its core a force user with powerful consular like abilities but trained extensively or was exposed enough to lightsaber combat to be on par with above average duelists at the very least, given the characters he defeats. (yoda being much older however can even tackle Dooku/Sidious which is peak, but I mean you can't beat how ancient Yoda's race is really, tough Yoda's lightsaber skill is more intentional)
    As for Cal joining Luke's Jedi Order, one neat way to retcon him into it would be to put him into a position akin to Katarn's but throw him out into the wild on long term missions like scouring the galaxy for sith artifacts and holocrons, like jedi shadows used to, that might be a good way of saying "he was always there he just went unnoticed because he was out of camera" while giving an excuse to have a show with Cal and possibly Ahsoka and other new characters without having to literally rewrite cannon while still retconing it.

    • @jarmoliebrand2005
      @jarmoliebrand2005 2 месяца назад +14

      I definitely think Cal has unspoken consular qualities. He often tries to seek allies in people. And it worked wonders with Merrin. It took him going on his own journey, but he realised she was just another scared and scarred survivor, like himself. Of course, he also hears force echos in her story. I think it’s telling how much faith he puts in her, though, before fighting Malicos (a Jedi master, we should remind ourselves… Cal beat a Jedi master [with help]). He literally gives her his lightsaber. He may not have been told ‘this weapon is your life’, by Obi-Wan, but certainly he’s learned similar lessons. Besides, when his crystal broke… he had no choice but run for dear life to escape Dathomir. That weapon really was his life.

  • @starkillerab1582
    @starkillerab1582 2 месяца назад +95

    I can’t wait to see how powerful Jedi Master Cal Kestis is

    • @Maddog-xc2zv
      @Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад +21

      In Survivor he's still behind Cere's level, but still he's not at his peak. Hope they don't turn him a dark jedi, but rather continuing his arc which could absolutely merge with EU Luke's Jedi Academy and turning out one of the most proficient jedi (alongside the Dathomirian force user Merrin and their adopted daughter, biological seed of Bode - all this story fits so well in Luke's EU jedi academy)

    • @simonji2940
      @simonji2940 2 месяца назад +17

      @@Maddog-xc2zv nah id love him becoming the kind of jedi that aims to understand all sides of the force. I guess thats something that could fit in the EU academy

    • @Maddog-xc2zv
      @Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад +2

      @@simonji2940 that's a great path and yes I agree is achievable in Luke's EU academy, not on Disney Universe for sure

    • @Dwayne_19K
      @Dwayne_19K 29 дней назад +3

      @@Maddog-xc2zvYea I’d say he’s about half as powerful as cere by the end of Jedi survivor, he’s a EXTREMELY fast learner I mean he masters mind tricks and force lift/slam very quickly after just recalling how cere used it

    • @Mr_Triscuit
      @Mr_Triscuit 13 дней назад

      ​@@Maddog-xc2zv
      If anything Cal will be something more akin to a grey Jedi.

  • @davidsmith7962
    @davidsmith7962 2 месяца назад +87

    I loved Cal’s stories from Fallen Order & Survivor

  • @SkinnyEatWorld95
    @SkinnyEatWorld95 2 месяца назад +217

    I wish Cal would have an appearance in some other series. And in case something happens to him in the games, I only have one arm so I never got a chance to play them.

    • @VintageGaming351
      @VintageGaming351 2 месяца назад +15

      :(

    • @lucabestea6844
      @lucabestea6844 2 месяца назад +20

      I'm sorry for your lack of a limb.

    • @simonji2940
      @simonji2940 2 месяца назад +8

      ive seen people play both console and pc with one hand before, looks insanely difficult but youd be cool af if u managed

    • @nescience2978
      @nescience2978 2 месяца назад +26

      Let Dagan Gera be your inspiration

    • @christophervector3783
      @christophervector3783 2 месяца назад +11

      dont let it stop you my g!
      Master Jaro Tapal said:
      The path is difficult
      The obstacles in your path define the path
      What stands in your way becomes the way!
      The force will be with you my g!

  • @satchelharding189
    @satchelharding189 2 месяца назад +50

    I think one of Cal’s underrated feats was After restoring his connection to the force, he fought and pressured Taron Malicos in a light saber fight, Who was a former Jedi master who had turn to the Darkside and was being strengthened by the Darkside Nexxus of Dathomir. Though Cal was Inferior in the force department and needed help to defeat him.

    • @baki484
      @baki484 Месяц назад +17

      All of the fights Cal goes in he's at a disadvantage.
      Against Trilla and 9th sister his connection was blocked
      Against Malicos he was in a darkside Nexus
      Against dagan he was hit with an illusion and out fenced him in the their second duel.
      Emotionally conflicted against Bode both times and showed superiority once no one got in his way.

    • @damonedrington3453
      @damonedrington3453 Месяц назад +11

      Also the fact that (and no one seems to ever mention this) he stopped training in any fashion for 10 years and was separated from the force. And in the span of a few days, was able to defeat two inquisitors and a former Jedi master. Hell, the fact he didn’t just get instantly murdered by Vader should be proof alone

    • @Mr_Triscuit
      @Mr_Triscuit 13 дней назад

      So what if he needed help? He was still the one doing the bulk of the work.

    • @kingt0295
      @kingt0295 7 дней назад

      @@damonedrington3453 I don’t think the course of Jedi fallen order was a few days, especially with the Kashyyyk story of the empire regaining control i thought it more like a couple weeks to a few months but condensed for a game story line

  • @psychoticpurse6579
    @psychoticpurse6579 2 месяца назад +146

    Any Jedi powerful enough to survive Darth Vader on multiple occasions is already enough to put someone up there with the most powerful masters of the era, even when disregarding his other feats.

    • @LimmeLimbo
      @LimmeLimbo 2 месяца назад +25

      He survived Vader 1 time lol. Cere is the only one who fought him more than once, and she died her second time.
      Cal aint seen Vader since Fallen Order

    • @theoutsiderjess1869
      @theoutsiderjess1869 2 месяца назад +9

      Cal didnt face Vader in survivor.

    • @baki484
      @baki484 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@LimmeLimbo Not in person but he sees him through the force echos.

    • @jeremiahscott2032
      @jeremiahscott2032 Месяц назад +1

      That and also she was a former Jedi master who cut off her connection to the force as well

  • @countengladx7156
    @countengladx7156 2 месяца назад +30

    Honestly he’s by far the best part of Disney Star Wars. Nothing shines brighter than him from this era and from EA no less

  • @angrymike590
    @angrymike590 Месяц назад +10

    The fact he's faced off against Vader and a High Republic Jedi is just insane and probably means he could have easily made council but they probably would have tried killing him for using the dark side to amp his already impressive natural abilities.

  • @cyberneticshadow5572
    @cyberneticshadow5572 2 месяца назад +31

    Starkiller and Cal are my two favorite non-main characters ever!!

    • @damonedrington3453
      @damonedrington3453 Месяц назад

      Pretty sure Jedi Fallen Order & Survivor are both canon

    • @aouyiu
      @aouyiu Месяц назад +3

      @@damonedrington3453 yeah but they aren't "main" characters

    • @jessicasuzanne___
      @jessicasuzanne___ Месяц назад +2

      @@aouyiu Uh yes they are- and both games literally talk about Cal’s journey

    • @TeenWithACarrotIDK
      @TeenWithACarrotIDK 13 дней назад

      @@jessicasuzanne___ he’s a main character of his game, not a main character of Star Wars. He hasn’t even appeared in any shows or such yet, so he’s behind those like Ezra and whatnot on that front.

  • @darylsdesigns6679
    @darylsdesigns6679 2 месяца назад +20

    In regards to Cal’s lightsaber skills, I’ve always been under the impression that he combined his implied talent in Form VI Niman with the simplistic blade work of Form I Shii-Cho, given that Cal was a young Padawan when Order 66 was issued and the wide sweeping attack sequences he employed.

    • @baki484
      @baki484 Месяц назад +1

      He was with Jaro for 3 years form 1 seems to be his fallback due to his lack of confidence with form 6 after being out of practice but by end he mixed them together.

  • @Louts
    @Louts 2 месяца назад +39

    Respawn has definitely outdone themselves with Fallen Order, and Jedi Survivor. Can’t wait for the third installment (ps wish they’d make Titanfall 3. TF2 story was amazing as well)

  • @roriopm
    @roriopm 2 месяца назад +19

    Good work on spotlighting Cal, definitely the most relatable SW char for me. Excited for more content featuring this char.

  • @masterquan4891
    @masterquan4891 2 месяца назад +13

    Sounds like he was very similar to Luke, everything he pretty much had to learn on this own. That is the best part no dogma, learning from both sides, and learning from scratch even in the real world is better than learning from a book.

  • @dasavageindian
    @dasavageindian Месяц назад +8

    Cal is a Jedi who has learned to use his passion for good. And any sith would know that passion is power under the right circumstances of anger through the dark side. But Cal learned patience. The sith greatest downfall was being impatient. Truely, a powerful force user to reckon with

  • @Ebutuoy151
    @Ebutuoy151 2 месяца назад +8

    I can't wait to see how powerful Cal Kestis will become in the third game especially since his powers are growing both in the light and dark side. I think in the third game the developers should have Merrin teach Cal how to properly channel the dark side without being corrupted by it because unlike the sith the nightsisters are in harmony with the dark side

    • @xmatox320
      @xmatox320 11 дней назад +3

      Yeah, that's a great idea. If Cal is able to utilize the dark side without being consumed by it that'd be a huge advantage over another force users. I'm not sure if anyone besides legends Luke was able to do that and he certainly has the potential to control it

  • @AzulApe
    @AzulApe 2 месяца назад +56

    He has to be strong enough to go toe to toe with Vader in the next game, so yeah. lol

    • @The_Lucent_Archangel
      @The_Lucent_Archangel 2 месяца назад +15

      Personally hope there is no Vader cameo in the third one. They put him in everything for member berries at this point. If it's post-Empire, it might be fun to have him beat up Kylo Ren during a one-off encounter since he fancies himself the Dollar Store knock-off of Darth Vader. And he kind of deserves to get smacked around prior to his "redemption" for what he did to Han Solo. Not to mention Iden's hubby and others.

    • @AzulApe
      @AzulApe 2 месяца назад +32

      @@The_Lucent_Archangel Cal and Vader have history, plus he killed Cere. You don’t understand how storytelling works. Kylo Ren? I am greatful you have nothing to do with this series. What an awful idea.

    • @dariyanvalentine3564
      @dariyanvalentine3564 2 месяца назад +9

      @@AzulApe yeah but Cal would still lose, unless they want to redo all canon.

    • @AzulApe
      @AzulApe 2 месяца назад +17

      @@dariyanvalentine3564 Vader has taken L’s before. Cal just can’t kill him. Which frankly would be a full circle for him showing he’s a true Jedi. Then we can put his arc with Vader to bed and move him into other stories. Unless they want him to die, which I am not a fan of. Especially when Disney is afraid to kill Ahsoka.

    • @simonji2940
      @simonji2940 2 месяца назад +4

      @@AzulApe Yeah theres multiple bosses in the game you fight without killing them, still makes for cool fights

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 2 месяца назад +4

    This is great. Really great. No wonder why he's so powerful. He's facing stormtroppers all the time,Sith acolytes. Trauma of Order 66. Plus everything you mentioned. He's that and so much more. Have a phenomenal day too!

  • @djnavarro3212
    @djnavarro3212 2 месяца назад +33

    I’ve been meaning to add Cal to my collection but I’ve been putting it off for five years now. Hopefully I’ll be able to find him again one day

    • @jessicasuzanne___
      @jessicasuzanne___ Месяц назад

      Why?? there’s nothing wrong with him

    • @djnavarro3212
      @djnavarro3212 Месяц назад

      Oh no I’ve been putting off buying him because I’ve been focused on buying other things for my collection

  • @jacksonyon5276
    @jacksonyon5276 2 месяца назад +24

    Honestly one of the best original Disney Star Wars characters

  • @belmontzar
    @belmontzar 21 день назад +3

    There is a difference between a trained warrior, a Soldier, and a Survivor. One Is Taught the proper ways of combat, the other learns the ways of war, and the survivor learns how to LIVE. It may sound reductive to a degree against the trained warrior and the Soldier... but the survivor grows by his own merit, skill, and adaptable nature. They don't worry about Honour, justice, or things like that... their only focus is to see the sun rise tomorrow. You can fight and defeat a trained warrior in battle, You can over come and make a solider surrender, but a Survivor fights to thier last moment... because in order for them TOO fight, they must be under threat.. and threats will be Exterminated.

  • @Utopian_Futures
    @Utopian_Futures 2 месяца назад +27

    I don’t know at what date Jedi Survivor takes place, but it should be around the battle of Yavin.
    It would be a great story if Cal became a member of GM Luke's New Jedi Order alongside Kyp Durron, Kyle Katarn etc.
    They share common values and philosophies (using dark side forces without being corrupted), Cal is very versatile in force skills, he takes leadership to secure the life of a group of force skilled people, he has fought against the inquisition for many years.
    He would fit perfectly into being a member Luke's New Jedi Order

    • @The_Lucent_Archangel
      @The_Lucent_Archangel 2 месяца назад +16

      If only Luke's Order wasn't doomed to bad writing that culminates in him becoming a hermit living on green milk. I think Cal would quickly exit stage left back to Tanalorr once he saw that happen.

    • @Utopian_Futures
      @Utopian_Futures 2 месяца назад +11

      @@The_Lucent_Archangel nah, I'm pretty sure EU Grandmaster Luke doesn’t like green milk.
      Please don't remind me of that Sequel 🗑️ , I suffered PTSD after watching that trash.

    • @simonji2940
      @simonji2940 2 месяца назад +4

      @@The_Lucent_Archangel If we're lucky they start considering the games non-canon, which could make for some awesome gameplay later down the line

    • @jamesgreear4247
      @jamesgreear4247 2 месяца назад +6

      It’s set during the same year as the Obi Wan Kenobi series

    • @The_Lucent_Archangel
      @The_Lucent_Archangel Месяц назад

      @@simonji2940 If they did that, they might as well make TFU III while they're at it. Or don't and make it anyway.

  • @Historicutuber
    @Historicutuber 2 месяца назад +8

    I really like Cal. His skills are not to be underestimated

  • @jonahstirbis3408
    @jonahstirbis3408 2 месяца назад +3

    KAL kestis could become a truly amazing Jedi master.

  • @missinglink2197
    @missinglink2197 Месяц назад +5

    I hope Cal adapts like Mace Windu and uses the dark side of the force to his advantage without being corrupted by it.

    • @MrCleman1
      @MrCleman1 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah I wish Cal would figure out form 8 Vapaad like Mace once did.

    • @kingt0295
      @kingt0295 7 дней назад +2

      @@MrCleman1 you just know he’s getting force lightning’d in Jedi 3

  • @Savagery21
    @Savagery21 2 месяца назад +35

    When you're someone who has faced Vader multiple times and live to tell the tale, you know You're powerful.

    • @dariyanvalentine3564
      @dariyanvalentine3564 2 месяца назад +8

      or exceptionally lucky.

    • @Savagery21
      @Savagery21 2 месяца назад +5

      @@dariyanvalentine3564 That too. But mad skills played a part.

    • @simonji2940
      @simonji2940 2 месяца назад

      @@dariyanvalentine3564 without the skill youd be dead before you have time to realize, still a fuck ton of luck involved though

    • @vegitoblack6321
      @vegitoblack6321 2 месяца назад

      StarKiller has not only faced Vader twice, but has also defeated Vader twice. Sorry to say it, but Kestis wouldn't hold a candle to StarKiller

    • @Savagery21
      @Savagery21 2 месяца назад

      @@vegitoblack6321 Obviously. Starkiller was Palpatine level when using the force. I think Kal is probably Yoda level.

  • @mateoedwin
    @mateoedwin Месяц назад +2

    Solid video glad this was brought up, just played survivor this summer and by the end of that game cal is pretty damn op

  • @davidstinger1134
    @davidstinger1134 12 часов назад +1

    He's just the classic "I learned from the school of life" archetype, he's good because he learned to fight and use the Force, not in some cozy room in Coruscant deflecting laser bolts from a Marksman-H, but by actually fighting other soldiers and sith.
    He's like in RPGs when you just go straight towards the higher level enemies, tough it out and beat them which makes you level up much faster than with natural progression.

  • @serpenthydra
    @serpenthydra Месяц назад +3

    I think a part of it - other than 'its a game bruh!' - is that Cal was retaught the Force through ancient knowledge. The Zeffo, Kashyyyk and Dathomir's ancient power and the High Republic plus whatever was special about Bogano have all had an effect. As Malicos said, the Jedi were 'stifled' by tradition which means, I think, they possibly prevented growth because their own history told them that powerful Jedi are also dangerous and therefore keeping someone from realising their true potential would prevent them becoming a threat to the Order. Dagan Gera is a prime example of someone who was given the sufficient freedom to stray from the Path and as such threatened the Order when their needs weren't met. In contrast Mace Windu was on the Council and so had the space to become the badass m*therf*cker he was.
    Ultimately Cal has been afforded substantial space whilst also benefiting from the two titles: Fallen Order being the loss of the controls that would have kept him in check with constant tutelage from his Master and Survivor adding to that power because, and I'm quoting something else entirely now, but I think it's apt, in the game of survival there are no rules. Bode reminds Cal of his own self-imposed rules about love in the game, but it's probably the last bastion of adherence to the old ways that Cal is still following. Otherwise he hasn't held himself back too much, perhaps the last power-amp being driven by the death of his surrogate Master as history threatens to repeat itself.
    I just hope we get Force Jump in the next game cos all that platforming can be a right pain!

  • @howardhalldavisv
    @howardhalldavisv 2 месяца назад +7

    Literally my thrid favorite star wars character

  • @valmid5069
    @valmid5069 2 месяца назад +2

    Cant wait for more great content The Stupendous Wave!

  • @thedarkknight727
    @thedarkknight727 2 месяца назад +5

    Cal in Jedi Fallen Order: Aang
    Cal in Jedi Surviver: Could Strife
    What a transformation exquisite. 😎

  • @GregoryMcStevens
    @GregoryMcStevens Месяц назад +2

    Cals power increase from fallen order to survivor is insane. Went from struggling against inquisitiors to killing them with ease. Not to mention killing rayvis and dagan

  • @justmedlen_3740
    @justmedlen_3740 2 месяца назад +1

    You are awesome Mr. Wave! Don’t let others pressure you into showing your face if you don’t want to!

  • @YourLifeWasting
    @YourLifeWasting 2 месяца назад +4

    Some call him Cal, me well I just call him the joker.
    Author unknown BBY

  • @alexcunningham2827
    @alexcunningham2827 2 месяца назад +3

    Awesome Jedi and awesome video on him

  • @amossss
    @amossss 2 месяца назад +3

    Isn't wild how a Game studio on a limited budget can create better characters and stories than the richest company on the planet with infinite money and time

  • @thomasparque7834
    @thomasparque7834 2 месяца назад +7

    I think Cal Kestis and Legends’ Luke were evidence that Jedi Order durning the prequel were largely wrong how they train their students. The Order were trying to making them into the prefect Jedi instead of the best the version of the Jedi they wanted to be.

    • @thomasparque7834
      @thomasparque7834 2 месяца назад +4

      One of handful lessons the Jedi failed to learn from Sith Order or had but quickly forget it as never really been taught

    • @simonji2940
      @simonji2940 2 месяца назад +2

      @@thomasparque7834 Yeah the republic jedi were honestly kinda boring compared to all other timelines. I would love a show or game showing us what the jedi would look like at their peak

  • @joshuasauceda7375
    @joshuasauceda7375 Месяц назад

    You hit on the spot his story is new untold there's so much we do to new about his character that we are still diving into this was great breakdown video I cant wait to see what type of Jedi he becomes.

  • @OS_Fullmetal
    @OS_Fullmetal 2 месяца назад +4

    Actually playing through Jedi: Survivor today! I'm about 3/4 done.

  • @zedbruh7212
    @zedbruh7212 2 месяца назад +3

    cal, like star killer, does not limit his emotionas much as the jedi at least
    combined with the psychometry his ability to learn is insane

  • @Dee15gon
    @Dee15gon 2 месяца назад +2

    Yeah! He's powerful!!
    I turned him into a Purge Trooper killer and Bounty Hunter killer playing as him...
    Heck... All those gamers who do no-damage videos make Cal look like a force to be reckoned with...

  • @vr6prodigy
    @vr6prodigy Месяц назад +2

    Cal had that main character energy!

  • @aaronwalker4017
    @aaronwalker4017 2 месяца назад +3

    About time there was some more lore about the famous CAL.!!!!

  • @TenToAceStudios
    @TenToAceStudios 2 месяца назад +6

    Cal uses Niman but his base is in Ataru, based on his agression and physicality. Same as Jaro Tapal

    • @Maddog-xc2zv
      @Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад +2

      Cal echo in the force ability allows him to learn with ever single character he changes paths with, like when he just started to play the music Cere's composed from the thin air. Same with fighting forms and other abilities of others he crossed blades with, including the ninth sister (although she seems a bit of pathetic and arrogant), 2nd sister, Cere, Bode, Malicos, Merrin (a powerful nightsister force user), Gera and even from the brief time he faced Vader

  • @ReactionsWithTeefoooo
    @ReactionsWithTeefoooo 2 месяца назад +1

    So glad theory brought me back to brodie!!! Good star wars vibes!!!

  • @kaidorade1317
    @kaidorade1317 2 месяца назад +5

    I’m excited to see how Cal’s story concludes in his third game! It’s being worked on and will run on Unreal Engine 5

    • @dariyanvalentine3564
      @dariyanvalentine3564 2 месяца назад +1

      Oh god not UE5 the frame timing and stuttering would be so bad.

    • @kaidorade1317
      @kaidorade1317 2 месяца назад +2

      @@dariyanvalentine3564 especially since Survivor was barely playable at launch

    • @Maddog-xc2zv
      @Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад +2

      @@kaidorade1317 that's because EA was eager to profit from the game release also on PC. At the time the former Respawn (the bulk of all Jedi games - fallen order and survivor - in all chapters you might think of) CEO asked for a few months to make the game "perfect", but EA did what they do best: acting like EA.

    • @kaidorade1317
      @kaidorade1317 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Maddog-xc2zv I’m not surprised…

    • @aouyiu
      @aouyiu Месяц назад +2

      @@kaidorade1317 it's playable now

  • @suoutamaki14
    @suoutamaki14 Месяц назад +2

    videogame force users are always the most powerful

  • @TSDT97
    @TSDT97 2 месяца назад +4

    Cal does not use any of the 7 lighsaber forms, the only one he was probably taught was form 1 as he was so early in his padawanhood. He has a self learnt style which suits him well. He uses form 1, 4, 5, 6-ish manouvers, but neither form in particular and adds a lot of unique. His greatest strength is his high force potential and talent to wield the force in so many ways.

    • @baki484
      @baki484 2 месяца назад +2

      He was made a padawan after the battle of Geonosis (attack of the clones). His strength lies in lightsaber combat. The art of the game book for JFO confirms this. Niman being his form makes sense.
      His ability to wield the force also in highly stressful situations is what Jaro taught him.

    • @ShadowGhost0117
      @ShadowGhost0117 Месяц назад

      Cal overall really uses Niman the most

  • @firehawk7922
    @firehawk7922 2 месяца назад +6

    its great to finally have cal's lightsaber form known what makes's it better is not alot of jedi mastered form 6 the only other one who mastered form 6 was exar kun

    • @cheekibreeki904
      @cheekibreeki904 2 месяца назад +2

      What makes it better is that he managed to make an inferior form actually work for him so well, I'd say.

    • @ShadowGhost0117
      @ShadowGhost0117 Месяц назад

      Revan was also one of the best users of Niman

    • @firehawk7922
      @firehawk7922 Месяц назад

      @@ShadowGhost0117 starkiller's clone was also a master of niman

  • @overknightacention39
    @overknightacention39 2 месяца назад +81

    Starkiller: "Hold my beer."

  • @DramaBricks
    @DramaBricks 2 месяца назад +11

    The best Jedi ever created by Disney! Love the games!!!

  • @ricorommeldumaplin4822
    @ricorommeldumaplin4822 Месяц назад +1

    I really loved the way he crushes the droids like aluminum cans of softdrinks every time he embraces his darkness, if only he learns force lightning he'd be an even more formidable opponent against the empire

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 Месяц назад

      In the EU you need years in using the dark side of the force to be able to use force lightning also you need to let the dark side flow through you in anger and desire to inflict pain

  • @starkillerab1582
    @starkillerab1582 2 месяца назад +5

    In my canon he indeed Joins Luke’s New Jedi Order and Becomes Its First True Jedi Weapon Master A.k.a The Next Vodo-Siosk Baas and he even befriends Starkiller (Galen Marek’s Clone)

  • @hunterallen2159
    @hunterallen2159 Месяц назад +1

    If he continues to advance in power, and as rapidly as we've seen, I could see a very real chance of The Emperor giving Cal his personal attention. Which would be quite the show down.

  • @bigsamiabs8416
    @bigsamiabs8416 Месяц назад +1

    Cal is this powerful because video game logic. More fun to have more exxagerated powers of him and the enemies.

  • @mattjackson382
    @mattjackson382 Месяц назад

    One of the interesting side effects of being self taught is that you don't have someone over your shoulder telling you that something is impossible. It's just a tier of skill you haven't achieved yet

  • @kirbydioso7848
    @kirbydioso7848 10 дней назад

    Cal's story should be in the big screen. Chosen one ship has sailed, the legacy erm.. has sailed too.

  • @AncestorEmpire1
    @AncestorEmpire1 2 месяца назад +8

    Have Starkiller hunt him as an assignment from Vader and Cal is dead man walking.

    • @da_horne_gaming
      @da_horne_gaming 2 месяца назад +1

      Maybe, Galen doesn’t have force slow and no one he fought ever used it that I remember

    • @AncestorEmpire1
      @AncestorEmpire1 2 месяца назад +1

      @@da_horne_gaming maybe, but Cal would best be running.

    • @LeaderOfTheLostSouls
      @LeaderOfTheLostSouls 2 месяца назад +1

      @@da_horne_gamingThat’s true but if you’re stronger in the force you can resist other abilities most of the time, he would need the strength to use his force to hold him still so he wouldn’t be able to due to how much stronger he is tbh
      Check out Key Issues’ video on this match up, I know them and they did a good job, in fact they low balled Starkiller to make a point just using his on screen feats and scaling not his scaling to legends Vader and his scaling in the eu comics.

    • @shkotayd9749
      @shkotayd9749 2 месяца назад +4

      Well Starkiller defeated Vader twice, capturing him the second time as a prisoner lol.
      If he can do that, no one else aside from Sidious was going to have an easy day with him :P Much less Kestis.

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls unless cal kestis get fully trained in the darth side learn from some ancient jedi holocroms he will never be powerful enough to even escape from galen marak

  • @personatthebay
    @personatthebay Месяц назад +1

    The force stays in balance, when all the lightside users died in order 66 i bet cal is the cup all that extra potential got poured into

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 Месяц назад

    Cal is someone i can relate too.
    He's also compassionate, and loyal to his crew, and always tries to do the thing. He makes mistakes sure but cal is still a true jedi.

  • @MrJamb0ree
    @MrJamb0ree Месяц назад

    That was the smoothest way to ask for a subscription ❤

  • @JujuToobootie
    @JujuToobootie 22 дня назад

    6:04 "With just a flick of his wrist, he can move tons of weight."
    BARS!! 🥶

  • @bobthespud9634
    @bobthespud9634 2 месяца назад +5

    3:52 🤣 in my head that fall is cannon

  • @GnosisZX
    @GnosisZX 11 часов назад

    His rare force ability gives him a tactical in terms of info and knowledge plus huge edge when it comes to detective work

  • @omegalegion1769
    @omegalegion1769 Месяц назад +1

    Galen: Yes, in time, you'll be a legend as well.

  • @loveli420
    @loveli420 2 месяца назад +1

    One of my FAVORITE Star Wars characters. I adore the games and I'm dying to see a live action appearance.

  • @GIFFORDJEG
    @GIFFORDJEG Месяц назад

    Love you and theory. Great video. Keep it up

  • @a.j.501st
    @a.j.501st Месяц назад

    I feel like Cal is such a wild card of a Jedi. That’s attributed to the game-ification of his character cuz he is, ya know, the player character. But I see him as kind of an experiment of a Jedi. What if a Jedi had a gun, what if a Jedi wasn’t restrained by the dogma of the Jedi code, and not taught what his master thought he needed, but he learned what he NEEDS to know to survive. It’s also a great diamond in the rough story.

  • @Necrochaosium
    @Necrochaosium 2 месяца назад +1

    When it comes to the survivor story, I think the mystery of bode's master may well come in the next installment, like sidious, bode was able to completely mask his mind from detection from nearby force users. He wasnt aligned at all with the inquisitors so it was likely somebody outside this realm.
    The rule of two is only so when the current sith lord cant detect any other sith around except for his apprentice. The star wars universe NEEDS more independant force users that arent aligned with the normally known factions, however hazardous it is for them to exist so.

  • @ChrisGrogu
    @ChrisGrogu 2 месяца назад +4

    Let’s give our appreciation to TSW for giving us depth & details on SrarWars characters on his daily Archives, make sure your subscribed guys ❤

  • @Tekkaman1994
    @Tekkaman1994 Месяц назад

    Cal is quite skilled in Force abilities and Lightsaber combat despite not finishing his Jedi training. I really like that he is able traverse multiple planets, take on multiple stormtroopers, purgetroopers and Inquisitors as well! Cal hadn't used any of his Force skills, as well as his lightsaber for five years. Through re-connecting with the Force, he was able to get what he needed to get done on each planet and access the Holocron on Bogano. He survived an encounter with Darth Vader. Not many Jedi can say that.

  • @travisvanalst4698
    @travisvanalst4698 Месяц назад +1

    Bro had a run in with Vader and ended up living. That should be all you need to know on how powerful he is.

  • @ajtilted8806
    @ajtilted8806 2 месяца назад +5

    Now all we need is part 3 of the jedi trilogy to see him at his peak, with hopefully a apprentice and cameo from Ezra

    • @Maddog-xc2zv
      @Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад

      the apprentice would be his and merrin's adopted daughter, Kata, biological daughter of Bode.

  • @nathanevans7237
    @nathanevans7237 Месяц назад

    I think something else that's really important here, and I know there are many comments and someone has undoubtedly mentioned this: Cal had many journeys with both the night sister maren and Jedi Master cere Junda, who we already know has taught him things off screen, and while I know they don't show anything in relation to lightsaber training, I feel like she must have taught him a few things in relation to lightsaber technique, especially when you consider that their combat skills are largely similar; it's just that one of them is a Jedi master trained in the days of the Old Republic, when the Jedi were at the height of their power and skill, and the other is an incredibly powerful and didactic Jedi Knight.
    Super cool topic too btw; I love this game, and Star wars with a passion I cannot describe, and I'm sure everyone involved with this channel does as well, thank you so much for making this guys 😃

  • @ValirianDefiance
    @ValirianDefiance 2 месяца назад +2

    my theory is that when order 66 killed so many extremely force-sensitive individuals it super charged the force itself allowing open-minded individuals like Cal and Ezra to reach nigh unprecedented heights of strength far more quickly then would otherwise be possible and that is not even considering how the empire forced them to gain that strength or die.

    • @derek96720
      @derek96720 Месяц назад +1

      I remember that being a theory years back when the rule of two was first introduced. It was the only reason that made sense for the Sith to keep their numbers so low.

    • @ValirianDefiance
      @ValirianDefiance Месяц назад +1

      @@derek96720 not exactly. similar principle but inverted. the basic idea is that like the body returning to the soil and giving new life after death the force may also work like that and if that is the case than keeping you're numbers so low would actually hinder growth. another possibility is that the sudden change in the balance broke the millennium of stagnancy and allowed more power to be readily available (watch avatar's description of chakra pools to give an idea of how that might work). I have other theories but this is getting long enough as is.

  • @Tim7318-3
    @Tim7318-3 Месяц назад

    The greatest boost to his power is the poncho, the poncho gives him an advantage that most force users don’t have in this era.

  • @chancecarlson2023
    @chancecarlson2023 14 дней назад

    Cal soloing that imperial space station speaks a lot as well.

  • @josephvanwyk2088
    @josephvanwyk2088 2 месяца назад +2

    Stances were cool - but I found that the double lightsaber was basically the best. Heavy for some units and single for others, but majority the double lightsaber. I sweared a lot in this game at the controls, enemies spamming red attacks on you, and good luck healing during combat with slow command response. The powers you unlock also felt underwhelmed or insignificant 80% of the time. I'm like "you JUST learned this, why can't you use it - dumb game". Really takes the fun out of everything these game developers. Jedi Knight Outcast & Academy remain KING.

  • @WolfyMan-gs2xe
    @WolfyMan-gs2xe 2 месяца назад +1

    EA has confirmed that a 3rd and final jedi game, it will be interesting to see the events after jedi survivor, and see him become even stronger than Cere Junda

  • @Schrsmnymkr
    @Schrsmnymkr 2 месяца назад +1

    Imagine a Star Wars game with both him and star killer as playable characters 🤔. It’ll never happen but it’s nice to dream😎

  • @LoganMangus-d1u
    @LoganMangus-d1u 16 дней назад

    Cal was definitely one of the lucky padawan survivors cause most were either starved to death, gunned down, or abused into inquisitors.

  • @davepresley4689
    @davepresley4689 Месяц назад

    A new video about a new topic containing new content from stupendous wave? Its Christmas

  • @BlackFresh1
    @BlackFresh1 17 дней назад

    He's so powerful because he's in video games and we play as him.

  • @offgridgreenie9668
    @offgridgreenie9668 2 месяца назад +1

    Not to mention that this story line offers a possibility of some great movies or more…

  • @jacobdrolet4262
    @jacobdrolet4262 Месяц назад

    Amazing video of Cal strength in the force and light saber fighting style in Star Wars

  • @thomasowen2857
    @thomasowen2857 2 месяца назад +1

    Hopefully we get to see Cal/Cameron Monaghan in live action one day maybe after the 3rd Jedi game

  • @jujufunnybunny3097
    @jujufunnybunny3097 2 месяца назад +1

    Nobody compares to starkiller, but I will say playing as cal is fun

  • @gjeggi6760
    @gjeggi6760 Месяц назад

    I would like for Cal to be placed in Legends whenever the Disney canon implodes on itself.

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 2 месяца назад +4

    What if Cal Ketis Force Stasis becomes so powerful that he is able to Stop Time around him?

    • @IsaacGriggs97
      @IsaacGriggs97 2 месяца назад +1

      He almost achieves this in Jedi Survivor

  • @kingofgames1220
    @kingofgames1220 Месяц назад +2

    The jedi games are the only good thing to come out of the Disney era

  • @keithstimpyys3497
    @keithstimpyys3497 Месяц назад

    You always feel powerful until vader comes in with no health bar.