Thank you, Peter. There was nothing difficult about the modification. It just took forever to get all the parts shipped. I ordered the timing pulley February 7th and got it March 9th. I think it was put on the slowest boat of the bunch.
Hi Mark. Thanks for the help on your live stream. As soon as I started using the term "rotary axis" i got a lot more info to help me with my project, including your videos at the top of the list. Got my motor power, gearing and feed rates figured out, but need to find a pulley that fits a standard mini wood lathe. Its a bit of an experiment really and i'm not even sure if its plausible to make fairly repetitive cuts when controlling the rotary axis with a joystick and the x-y axis with a manual sled, but I'm going to have fun finding out. It will also give me a fairly limitless indexing system).
Thanks Mark! I'm just starting the rotary axis addition to my Zenbot 2448. I've had the 2448 for 6 years but have been afraid to try this. With your great info, I now feel that I can take this on. Really good detailed stuff, thanks!
Great "shade tree mechanic" work! Can't wait to see your next video. I went ahead and bought the 4th Axis with my machine but have never been motivated to try it.....well I am now!
Mark you sir are awesome! Concise & very articulated! I will be surely referencing this for my GarageWorX build starting next week! Thank you for all are to the FNG's like me!
Super excited to see what you do with it when you get it up and running...I will definitely be coming back to this video in the future. Crazy you had to go through all that...but great that you got it all going!
Mark that's great I'm glad to hear you got it up and running. Next time tlif you ever need any custom brackets or mounts you let me know and I will make them for you on the tormach. Really don't be shy don't forget I owe you one
Thank you, Matt. To be honest, I completely forgot your offer. I may take you up on the offer to machine a bracket for me one day, however. I have a lot of ideas, but we'll see what happens. Thanks for stopping by and checking it out!
Of course Mark you wouldn't be doing any of this unless you had a lot of ideas!! Let work together to make them all happen. Keep up the good work and videos looking forward to part 2.
Nice Mark: I have been considering buying one of those. It would have driven me CRAZY trying to figure out why my it didn't work with my Xylotex box. Many things to be taken into consideration. Thanks.
Not everyone will have to go through the motor swap, but folks with the older style drive boxes, with either the single or double parallel ports will. I'm just glad to have it up and running, finally.
Nice Info!! I was looking into a 4th Or 5th axis. Dependent on your setup, good find. Looking forward to seeing more! I can see, I'll need to search more in depth. I was looking at "the same setup" at a price figure of $560. Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for watching, Larry. Just know that, depending on your system, you may not have to do the motor swap I did. That was to accommodate the Xylotex drive box, only.
The waiting for shipping was what was killing me. That's why I put this together - so folks trying to do what I did can get some insight as to that they might need if they want to go this route.
Excellent video Mark, packed full of information. I have a question and an FYI. 1, I'm not sure if you're aware, because these things change regularly, but eBay has a Money Back Guarantee to Buyer nearly identical to Amazon's guarantee (30 Days). and 2. Regarding the Xylotec and the stepper motor, were you referring to the Operating Voltage being different? because the Amperage is a maximum number (which the Xylotec's 4amp supply can easily manage the 3Amp motor) that does not affect whether you can use the smaller stepper. Are they different voltages? Just curious. That looks like a real neat unit.
Thanks, Javi! I wasn't aware of eBay's policy change - good to know! I've read, and spoken with a few people who anecdotally had bad experiences with trying to return or exchange a defective product they bought on eBay, so I tend to not spend a lot of money there, unless the supplier has a great customer service reputation from people I know. And I know my luck. As for the stepper, I emailed back and forth with Jeff from Xylotex over the Sunwin motor when I discovered that the timing pulley from the Sunwin motor wouldn't fit the Xylotex motor, and his final opinion was to use the Xylotex motor. I don't know if it was the operating voltage or amperage that made him decide that, but he warned me that while that particular motor would physically turn, it would shudder, stutter, and most likely overheat. And he knew that I already had a spare Xylotex motor because I told him so, so it wasn't like he was thinking he'd get a sale out of this discussion. He told me that in the future, to make sure to match up the voltage and amperage of the motor with the drive box, and I'd be fine. (I talk about this in the website article - jab, jab, jab - lol.)
@@MarkLindsayCNC I am considering getting a rotary axis but wondered.... My y axis is slaved to the A axis. I understand the reason for creating a new profile in mach3 but how do I wire it to the mach3 control board. I think mine is the 5 axis type. Do I wire it to the A or B axis? Do I wire it to the A power and driver or do I have to buy another driver and power supply for the rotary axis? Thanks
I dont mean to be so offtopic but does someone know of a way to log back into an instagram account..? I was dumb forgot the login password. I would love any tricks you can give me
@Damien Gustavo thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and im in the hacking process atm. Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
Thanks Eloy. I have several spinning wheel parts I'm going to be duplicating so I can get these wheels repaired and out the door. It's getting crowded in here. I need to make 6 spokes, 4 legs, 2 parts called Maidens, one flier - the list goes on and on...
How’s the unit going? I’m trying to decide between a similar model which has either a nema 23 stepper (will check if was is the same as the one you replaced) or a nema 34 motor
Your best bet is to match the motor to the driver(s) and power supply(s) you're using. That's why I swapped out the motor on my unit (which is still working just fine, by the way.) The stock stepper that came with the unit was too small for my setup amperage and voltage wise. If it would have better matched my controller and power supplies, I would have just used the stock stepper. Unless you're planning on chucking huge pieces of material in your rotary axis, a NEMA 34 motor may be a case of serious overkill. Only you can make that decision, though. Good luck!
@@MarkLindsayCNC Is the spindle housing made of aluminum or steel? Is the chuck held securely or is there a little bit of play? After watching this video, I want to buy a 4th axis. :)
The housing is made of steel, but is coated with a non-conductive coating. It's all nice and tight. I haven't found any play at all. I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.
Good information. What size bore did you select for the stepper timing pulley. My stepper is 1/4 shaft also, 6mm is the closest to 1/4 but it is still .35 too small. Thanks in advance.
I used a pulley with a bore of 1/4 inch (6.35 mm.) There's a link to the pulley I used in the description. Just select the 6.35 mm option on that page.
Nothing works the way you think it should or is never as easy as it should be. Looking forward to part 2. Looks very professional.
Cheers
Peter
Thank you, Peter. There was nothing difficult about the modification. It just took forever to get all the parts shipped. I ordered the timing pulley February 7th and got it March 9th. I think it was put on the slowest boat of the bunch.
Hi Mark. Thanks for the help on your live stream. As soon as I started using the term "rotary axis" i got a lot more info to help me with my project, including your videos at the top of the list.
Got my motor power, gearing and feed rates figured out, but need to find a pulley that fits a standard mini wood lathe.
Its a bit of an experiment really and i'm not even sure if its plausible to make fairly repetitive cuts when controlling the rotary axis with a joystick and the x-y axis with a manual sled, but I'm going to have fun finding out. It will also give me a fairly limitless indexing system).
Thanks Mark! I'm just starting the rotary axis addition to my Zenbot 2448. I've had the 2448 for 6 years but have been afraid to try this. With your great info, I now feel that I can take this on. Really good detailed stuff, thanks!
Great "shade tree mechanic" work! Can't wait to see your next video. I went ahead and bought the 4th Axis with my machine but have never been motivated to try it.....well I am now!
Well, get on it! Thanks for watching.
Mark you sir are awesome! Concise & very articulated! I will be surely referencing this for my GarageWorX build starting next week! Thank you for all are to the FNG's like me!
Thanks, Cory. I'm still a FNG in many ways - I'm just trying to help folks avoid the mistakes I've already made.
Super excited to see what you do with it when you get it up and running...I will definitely be coming back to this video in the future. Crazy you had to go through all that...but great that you got it all going!
Thanks, Michael! I have lots of ideas and several projects already lined up to do. Simple stuff at first, while I get the hang of it.
Mark that's great I'm glad to hear you got it up and running. Next time tlif you ever need any custom brackets or mounts you let me know and I will make them for you on the tormach. Really don't be shy don't forget I owe you one
Thank you, Matt. To be honest, I completely forgot your offer. I may take you up on the offer to machine a bracket for me one day, however. I have a lot of ideas, but we'll see what happens. Thanks for stopping by and checking it out!
Of course Mark you wouldn't be doing any of this unless you had a lot of ideas!! Let work together to make them all happen. Keep up the good work and videos looking forward to part 2.
Great video Mark looking forward to part two.
Thank you!
Gonna be cool to see this in action, happy to see you finally got all the parts and have it moving 👍🏻
Thank you, Trevor. It's been a long wait. I think the floor in front of the window is worn 1/4" deeper from my foot tapping...
Nice Mark: I have been considering buying one of those. It would have driven me CRAZY trying to figure out why my it didn't work with my Xylotex box. Many things to be taken into consideration. Thanks.
Not everyone will have to go through the motor swap, but folks with the older style drive boxes, with either the single or double parallel ports will. I'm just glad to have it up and running, finally.
Nice Info!! I was looking into a 4th Or 5th axis. Dependent on your setup, good find. Looking forward to seeing more! I can see, I'll need to search more in depth. I was looking at "the same setup" at a price figure of $560. Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for watching, Larry. Just know that, depending on your system, you may not have to do the motor swap I did. That was to accommodate the Xylotex drive box, only.
Nothing a bit of creative engineering can't overcome. Good job on that.
The waiting for shipping was what was killing me. That's why I put this together - so folks trying to do what I did can get some insight as to that they might need if they want to go this route.
Mark, very interesting project. I will be following your build.
Thank you, Jerry!
Great job Mark. Looking forward to seeing it all working
Thanks, Steve. She's working, alright. Now to make some chips!
This is going to be a fun series!
Thanks, Robert! It sure is...
So awesome Mark I have really been looking forward to this video and it was well worth the wait!!
Thanks, Cliff! The wait won't be so long for the next video - I promise.
Lots of great info Mark! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching, Donny!
great video , , looking forward to the next one
Thank you, Shawn!
Can you add soon, I'd be grateful if all these sheriffs had Turkish subtitles
Excellent video Mark, packed full of information. I have a question and an FYI. 1, I'm not sure if you're aware, because these things change regularly, but eBay has a Money Back Guarantee to Buyer nearly identical to Amazon's guarantee (30 Days). and 2. Regarding the Xylotec and the stepper motor, were you referring to the Operating Voltage being different? because the Amperage is a maximum number (which the Xylotec's 4amp supply can easily manage the 3Amp motor) that does not affect whether you can use the smaller stepper. Are they different voltages? Just curious. That looks like a real neat unit.
Thanks, Javi! I wasn't aware of eBay's policy change - good to know! I've read, and spoken with a few people who anecdotally had bad experiences with trying to return or exchange a defective product they bought on eBay, so I tend to not spend a lot of money there, unless the supplier has a great customer service reputation from people I know. And I know my luck.
As for the stepper, I emailed back and forth with Jeff from Xylotex over the Sunwin motor when I discovered that the timing pulley from the Sunwin motor wouldn't fit the Xylotex motor, and his final opinion was to use the Xylotex motor. I don't know if it was the operating voltage or amperage that made him decide that, but he warned me that while that particular motor would physically turn, it would shudder, stutter, and most likely overheat. And he knew that I already had a spare Xylotex motor because I told him so, so it wasn't like he was thinking he'd get a sale out of this discussion. He told me that in the future, to make sure to match up the voltage and amperage of the motor with the drive box, and I'd be fine. (I talk about this in the website article - jab, jab, jab - lol.)
Hi Mark, I justo want to Say hello from Colombia South América, contratos, Nice vídeo.
Thank you!
Nice looking unit, great video! Looks like you'll be making replacement spindles for spinning wheels etc.
Thank you, Jim! Actually, that's the first project. Who am I kidding - the first 3 projects...
@@MarkLindsayCNC I am considering getting a rotary axis but wondered....
My y axis is slaved to the A axis. I understand the reason for creating a new profile in mach3 but how do I wire it to the mach3 control board. I think mine is the 5 axis type. Do I wire it to the A or B axis?
Do I wire it to the A power and driver or do I have to buy another driver and power supply for the rotary axis? Thanks
I dont mean to be so offtopic but does someone know of a way to log back into an instagram account..?
I was dumb forgot the login password. I would love any tricks you can give me
@Ralph Carter instablaster =)
@Damien Gustavo thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and im in the hacking process atm.
Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
Great Job Mark! Got me motivated now! Nice Beard BTW:)
Thanks, Lyle! The beard is still a work in progress... :)
Great work dude. So what will you do with it?
Thanks Eloy. I have several spinning wheel parts I'm going to be duplicating so I can get these wheels repaired and out the door. It's getting crowded in here. I need to make 6 spokes, 4 legs, 2 parts called Maidens, one flier - the list goes on and on...
Just out of curiosity. The controller you using. doesn't it have a motor current control?
I'm using an older Xylotex drive box. No, it doesn't have a motor current control on it. That's why I was talking to the manufacturer.
How’s the unit going? I’m trying to decide between a similar model which has either a nema 23 stepper (will check if was is the same as the one you replaced) or a nema 34 motor
Your best bet is to match the motor to the driver(s) and power supply(s) you're using. That's why I swapped out the motor on my unit (which is still working just fine, by the way.) The stock stepper that came with the unit was too small for my setup amperage and voltage wise. If it would have better matched my controller and power supplies, I would have just used the stock stepper. Unless you're planning on chucking huge pieces of material in your rotary axis, a NEMA 34 motor may be a case of serious overkill. Only you can make that decision, though. Good luck!
Nice setup. What kind of bearings does that 4th axis have?
Thanks! To be honest, I'm not sure what kind of bearings are in it. They're all internal, and I've never taken it apart to find out.
@@MarkLindsayCNC Is the spindle housing made of aluminum or steel? Is the chuck held securely or is there a little bit of play? After watching this video, I want to buy a 4th axis. :)
The housing is made of steel, but is coated with a non-conductive coating. It's all nice and tight. I haven't found any play at all. I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.
Good information. What size bore did you select for the stepper timing pulley. My stepper is 1/4 shaft also, 6mm is the closest to 1/4 but it is still .35 too small. Thanks in advance.
I used a pulley with a bore of 1/4 inch (6.35 mm.) There's a link to the pulley I used in the description. Just select the 6.35 mm option on that page.
@@MarkLindsayCNC There is only a 6mm option
@@jeromejt62 Look again. It's the first button next to where it says Bore Diameter. Click that 6.35 mm button.
@@MarkLindsayCNC Thanks Mark found it. Again nice series on this.
Anyone may tell how to set rotary axis ( y as rotary) in NC studio 5.5.60 version
What CAD/CAM software do you use for rotary axis?
I was using Vectric's VCarve Pro until May of 2019, then I upgraded to Aspire. Thanks for checking out the video!
sell me that nema 23
We'll talk - lol