The Rise & Fall of Epic Mickey | Missed Potential & Not Actually Epic

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  • Опубликовано: 17 апр 2021
  • Let's dive into the Disney Video Game Vault, and reminisce over what we got and what could have been. It's the Rise & Fall of the Epic Mickey series!
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  • @blazarre7251
    @blazarre7251 3 года назад +5533

    I still think the best part about this series is that Disney got the rights back to Oswald by trading a real life person for him

    • @godzillafan9115
      @godzillafan9115 3 года назад +1035

      Sounds like human trafficking with extra steps.

    • @DavidMoul31
      @DavidMoul31 3 года назад +252

      @@godzillafan9115 love that Rick and Morty reference.

    • @Insert.Oregano
      @Insert.Oregano 3 года назад +98

      What is this about?

    • @Norgorber
      @Norgorber 3 года назад +959

      @@Insert.Oregano Walt Disney created Oswald for Universal back in the 1920's, and they held the rights to the character, not Disney. They wanted to get the rights to the character back, as it was an important part of Walt Disney's legacy, so they agreed to release the sportscaster Al Michaels from his contract so he could go work for NBC Universal in exchange for the trademark to Oswald.

    • @briansivley2001
      @briansivley2001 3 года назад +388

      @@Insert.Oregano basically Mickey Mouse wasn't originally Walt Disney's star it was Oswald The Lucky Rabbit. Unfortunately because of copyright Oswald was owned by Universal and Universal pretty much stole many of Walt's animators besides a few who were loyal to Walt. Once that happened on his way back to Los Angeles on the train Walt created a replacement for Oswald a replacement that he would own full copyright to so he created Mortimer Mouse but his wife didn't like the name and suggested to Walt name the character Mickey Mouse and the rest is history.

  • @VultureWarrior
    @VultureWarrior 3 месяца назад +445

    The first Epic Mickey game is getting a remake and Antdude had predicted it, back in the year 2021 . Which means that this video has truly aged well. Amazing, isn't it?

    • @imbrokelols
      @imbrokelols 3 месяца назад +19

      we just need a 3rd one noooowww

    • @rebeccaclarkson2902
      @rebeccaclarkson2902 3 месяца назад +6

      Nearly 3 years later too

    • @CianHue
      @CianHue 3 месяца назад +3

      Epic even

    • @speednugget
      @speednugget 3 месяца назад +2

      I legit was just gonna check if someone told him lol

    • @justdaffy
      @justdaffy 3 месяца назад

      Too bad it's only a remake. My biggest problem was always the lame gameplay but the concept still kicks ass

  • @aliengameplay1942
    @aliengameplay1942 3 года назад +629

    The Mickey ears always facing the camera is something that happened in the old Mickey cartoons, so it's a pretty neat detail.

    • @Toadloveschicken
      @Toadloveschicken 2 года назад +24

      And they still do to this day

    • @nerdychocobo
      @nerdychocobo 2 года назад +24

      it's also cool they managed to pull it off seems as kingdom hearts gave up on the idea

    • @churchofgodusopp765
      @churchofgodusopp765 2 года назад +27

      @@nerdychocobo kingdom hearts mickey in general just kinda looks off. He's so stiff and emotionless, which is two things Mickey shouldn't be

  • @MatthewPrower
    @MatthewPrower 3 года назад +648

    mickey’s heart is so pure he can’t even do a genocide route

    • @thisnameisbad3609
      @thisnameisbad3609 2 года назад +29

      =)
      -mickey, ????
      maybe

    • @cfruge444
      @cfruge444 Год назад +20

      In Epic Mickey, it's called the Thinner Path.

    • @Bd-qs5bn
      @Bd-qs5bn 2 месяца назад

      It's probably worse then a genocide, like doing a neutral route up to mettaton in undertale

  • @gamertoon8230
    @gamertoon8230 3 года назад +2258

    I can’t believe the main character of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse got his own game

  • @BeanBeanKingdom
    @BeanBeanKingdom 3 года назад +1231

    This was an awkward game for me since characters deemed as forgotten by this game such as Horace, Clarabelle and the Phantom Blot are regularly used in Mickey Mouse comics in my country.

    • @THWhite-ip3uq
      @THWhite-ip3uq 3 года назад +15

      @Daniel Thompson why are you subscribed to Antdude?

    • @flameonoodle1172
      @flameonoodle1172 3 года назад +40

      @Gamey Firebro She's also the shopkeeper in ToonTown.

    • @davidtakacs9326
      @davidtakacs9326 3 года назад +58

      They also appeared in Disney's House of Mouse, that's fairly well known too, right?

    • @mr.werb15md90
      @mr.werb15md90 3 года назад +61

      I believe the idea was that the version of Horace and Clarabelle in Wasteland were from the original designs and not their (at the time to now) current designs.

    • @DrMadd
      @DrMadd 3 года назад +59

      My personal headcanon is that the game took place just prior to Mickey getting redesigned. By that point in his history characters like Horace and Clarabelle had been largely phased out of the cartoons.

  • @pinkmell0w
    @pinkmell0w 2 года назад +223

    Well, you know, the whole morality system thing *was* supposed to have a bigger influence in the gameplay, mainly in Mickey's general appearance, but Disney didn't like the idea of potentially tarnishing Mickey's image and making him look like a bad guy so the thing was partially axed

    • @AbiBomb
      @AbiBomb 11 месяцев назад +30

      The reason why that got removed because disney didnt want mickey’s teeth to be shown 💀

  • @ShadowEclipex
    @ShadowEclipex 3 года назад +1168

    If Epic Mickey got a remake now hopefully they'd feel more confident with making it as dark as it was in it's concept stages.
    Edit: I know about the remake, I woke up early to watch the Direct "live", and yes I am excited despite it not going with the original darkwr concepts. XD

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby 3 года назад +74

      it was never going to be as dark in those though they admitted that was just a way to test the limits.

    • @Bacxaber
      @Bacxaber 2 года назад +7

      @@ddjsoyenby Source?

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby 2 года назад +11

      @@Bacxaber in the wha happen on it.

    • @vibezonegaming
      @vibezonegaming 2 года назад +33

      @@Bacxaber Because they don’t own Mickey and Disney wouldn’t allow their mascot to be turned edgy.

    • @Bacxaber
      @Bacxaber 2 года назад +22

      @@vibezonegaming That's not a source, that's an unsubstantiated claim. *Give me a source.*

  • @MaherandIbrahimsAvengers
    @MaherandIbrahimsAvengers 3 года назад +1505

    Fun Fact: Disney actually went to Universal and traded one of there ESPN annoucers for Oswlad the Lucky Rabbit (cause Universal owned Oswald at the time) just for this game

    • @IamaPERSON
      @IamaPERSON 3 года назад +16

      Cool

    • @KeybladeMasterAndy
      @KeybladeMasterAndy 3 года назад +79

      Probably not just for this game, since they still like to capitalize on their early history.

    • @gianlucacolangelo6578
      @gianlucacolangelo6578 3 года назад +123

      I immagine this guy being told "we sold you for an old cartoon character"

    • @cabralanselmo5777
      @cabralanselmo5777 3 года назад +79

      @@gianlucacolangelo6578 Actually he had no problem with it since he wanted to work for Universal to begin with.

    • @brittanynguyen3794
      @brittanynguyen3794 3 года назад +37

      Imagine being worth a cartoon rabbit, a throwaway cartoon rabbit.

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga 3 года назад +1703

    I remember first seeing the teaser poster for Epic mickey at Walmart and thinking it was the most dark and EDGY thing I've seen from Disney.

  • @Galethewizard892
    @Galethewizard892 3 года назад +273

    Epic Mickey 2 actually holds a special place on my heart. I used to play it with my mom all the time, and I have a lot of Oswald Merchandise because he reminds me of her, since that was the character she always played.
    It really isn't that bad if you do have a co-op friend.

    • @adamboose784
      @adamboose784 2 года назад +26

      I agree I really like the second one better and I refuse to change my mind on it.

    • @kenzonxz
      @kenzonxz 2 года назад +30

      Your mom played games with you?
      Dang dude thats kinda epic.
      And yes I played the 2nd game and its not that bad as he says it is

    • @sami_slammi7741
      @sami_slammi7741 2 года назад +9

      I played it all the time when I was really young (like 5 years old). Still surprised my hands fit on the ps3 controller

    • @user-zn1gd4jh4e
      @user-zn1gd4jh4e Год назад +5

      People over hate the second one. No reason for it.

    • @CrustyFox87
      @CrustyFox87 Год назад +10

      Same here, but with my brother instead. In fact, he always _wanted_ to be player two since he was so used to it, and cuz I think he likes Oswald more than Mickey anyway. That also means more paint and thinner for me!

  • @_Funny_Meme_Man_
    @_Funny_Meme_Man_ 3 месяца назад +28

    2 years later:WE ARE SO BACK!!!!

  • @icecontrol1
    @icecontrol1 3 года назад +748

    The reason Minnie wasn't in either of the main games is because Oswald already had a love interest so there was no reason to create an animatronic of her unlike Goofy, Donald and Daisy who were created by the Mad Doctor so Oswald could have close friends like Mickey

    • @thespectaculargamernerd8114
      @thespectaculargamernerd8114 3 года назад +51

      I never made that connection as a kid.

    • @tomkatt8274
      @tomkatt8274 3 года назад +13

      @@thespectaculargamernerd8114 robots, A.I and cyborgs are paranormal/supernatural beings.

    • @mikeorange7910
      @mikeorange7910 3 года назад +8

      Wow nice I never thought of that

    • @MothFable
      @MothFable 3 года назад +10

      Honestly that’s kinds depressing

    • @buster3041
      @buster3041 3 года назад +8

      Fam that doesn't mean she couldn't show up.

  • @Nic5Cyprus
    @Nic5Cyprus 3 года назад +533

    A remake of this series has been rumored for a while now

    • @THWhite-ip3uq
      @THWhite-ip3uq 3 года назад +31

      @Samuel Jackson spam the same exact thing if you're lying

    • @IamaPERSON
      @IamaPERSON 3 года назад +16

      Really? Would it be an exclusive, or for all platforms?

    • @Castersvarog
      @Castersvarog 3 года назад +59

      I wouldn’t mind seeing that be a thing, the first game was pretty cool in terms of just basic idea and execution. Add in some extra content that was cut and boom you’re gold

    • @Mike14264
      @Mike14264 3 года назад +16

      Oh yeah, they have! Wonder if it's gonna be just a remaster, a real remake, or a full on reimagining!

    • @OptimusPrime_3000
      @OptimusPrime_3000 3 года назад +25

      God please let it be real. I want this game on my switch

  • @robraze
    @robraze 3 месяца назад +34

    19:32
    WELL WELL WELL

  • @thexipherino667
    @thexipherino667 3 месяца назад +15

    19:32 well well well .... look who predicted the future. Can’t wait to relive old memories !

  • @omegae_1233
    @omegae_1233 3 года назад +331

    Kinda surprised he didn't mention the music. Didn't play the other 2, but the soundtrack to the first game is beautiful. The Mad Clocktower boss theme, the main theme and the ending theme that plays during the final cutscene are my 3 favs.

    • @SlayCap
      @SlayCap 3 года назад +2

      Jim Dooley uploaded the music to his RUclips channel.

    • @CatherineUmbreon96
      @CatherineUmbreon96 3 года назад +1

      The Bog Easy and Haunted Mansion music are my favorite tracks!
      As well as, oddly enough, something in the 2nd game's Bog Easy!
      Trying not to spoil on your comment should you see this before you/if you decide to play the Power of 2!

    • @Court8
      @Court8 3 года назад

      I want to comment... But I never finished the first or second game

    • @xelarande333
      @xelarande333 3 года назад +3

      That music.
      God, that music.

    • @SlayCap
      @SlayCap 3 года назад +1

      @@xelarande333 Yes! I suggest you listen to the soundtrack on Jim Dooley's RUclips channel.

  • @RoarOfRa
    @RoarOfRa 3 года назад +598

    "Clearly this was not meant for the public eyes to see since the final product is nowhere near as menacing."
    Warren Spector actually clarified that the more infamous concept art was never meant to be in the game at all - it was just to test how far Disney was willing to let his company go. Two pieces of art that WERE meant to be in the game feature an Oswald/Blot fusion called the "Storm Blot," which was the original idea for the final boss in which Oswald was the antagonist. When Spector became the director, this was nixed because he wanted Oswald to be loved again, not hated.

    • @SlayCap
      @SlayCap 3 года назад +31

      Correction: Storm Blot is just a nickname for the Blot. Not any specific Blot. This was confirmed in Epic Mickey 2 and a tweet by Chase Jones (Director of Epic Mickey)

    • @rigorgrynn4469
      @rigorgrynn4469 2 года назад +33

      That's a shame the concept had a very American mcgees Alice feel to it. Giving classic Disney that feeling would be such a cool concept.

    • @tombeats7179
      @tombeats7179 2 года назад +11

      @@rigorgrynn4469 I mean, we already got decapitated Donald and horror Goofy.

    • @ElWeebDelBarri
      @ElWeebDelBarri 2 года назад

      @RoarOfRa Epic profile picture from spm

    • @robinmattheussen2395
      @robinmattheussen2395 2 года назад +12

      Yeah, I recall reading about this. I think the artists were encouraged to take things very far, knowing that none of it would pass Disney's approval, and they could essentially just work downwards from there. As you said, everyone involved knew it would never make it to the final game and that it would not have a tone this menacing or dark. I think it's a strategy that ultimately does make sense.

  • @andrewmulert
    @andrewmulert 3 месяца назад +53

    Here's hoping that the remaster fixes just a little more than the graphics

    • @internationalwangjangler9642
      @internationalwangjangler9642 3 месяца назад +2

      it fs does its already been out but in a few leaks there will now be outfits and a new move set for mickey

    • @CipherRage-tp5ql
      @CipherRage-tp5ql 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@internationalwangjangler9642 Yeah I've read about that too. Mickey will have a dash move, a ground pound attack, and even an option to sprite. I haven't played epic Mickey in almost a decade and a half since my Wii was lost in storage. I really can't wait to play this remastered it's definitely gonna better than the original.

    • @dragonbornexpress5650
      @dragonbornexpress5650 3 месяца назад

      @ationalwangjangler9642. Take the leaks with a grain of salt, of course; That being said, those do sound like something Purple Lamp would come up with, and the second game already provides a decent template for costumes based on various cartoons from throughout the decades. (Though there's other things that have to be fixed or added; For example, revamping progression.)
      Edit: Nothing on a sprint option, but the first two are confirmed and they both look awesome to pull off. (Though it's unclear if the dash attack is only a ground option or if it can also be used in the air; The latter would naturally give it more versatility in gameplay.)

  • @kodawanberg6887
    @kodawanberg6887 3 месяца назад +25

    This series' is literally just Disney's Undertale
    *I'm getting the remaster now*

  • @mrcwillis6970
    @mrcwillis6970 3 года назад +573

    The fact that you can sing Mickey Mouses name to the Sephiroths Theme song is dark enough.

  • @beanking5432
    @beanking5432 3 года назад +900

    Ink monsters, classic cartoons, and killer animatronics, this game predated FNaF, Cuphead, and Bendy.
    Truly ahead of it’s time.

    • @tomkatt8274
      @tomkatt8274 3 года назад +11

      beetleworx-d

    • @lemondigit7309
      @lemondigit7309 2 года назад +15

      @Alucard Hellsing man i love all four games and can we not just compare them?

    • @nicegoatdoctor8224
      @nicegoatdoctor8224 2 года назад +8

      For the love of God, PLEASE let this be ironic.

    • @ianeons9278
      @ianeons9278 2 года назад +13

      And had the creators of Half Life and Deus Ex

    • @ElWratten
      @ElWratten Год назад +2

      Ahhh ese juego en donde luchas contra tinta
      *Imagen de bendy*
      Así es, hablo de *este juego*

  • @sweetpea644
    @sweetpea644 3 месяца назад +14

    Ecstatic that Epic Mickey is getting a 2024 remake. I'm a sucker for classic Disney history and this series was such a dark, novel concept.

  • @fireblade696
    @fireblade696 3 месяца назад +17

    I literally just watched this video 2 days ago and today a remake is accounced. This is crazy

  • @technighostvods6728
    @technighostvods6728 3 года назад +320

    The best part about anyone talking about this game is that they also get to talk about Oswald.

    • @nick-cepticon782
      @nick-cepticon782 3 года назад +7

      Truuu

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 3 года назад +14

      Yup, the OG Disney character but Walt Disney didn't know the characters he made were owned by his employer so he made his own company and Mickey. Now his company owns most of the most popular franchises on the planet and strangles the public domain solely to keep hold of Mickey a little longer.
      In US, the copyright ownership law has been extended so much that companies hold IPs over 70 years after the creator dies. So if you're a fan of something, it's practically illegal to make any fan content until you're almost dead yourself.

  • @thatdanjamesguy.330
    @thatdanjamesguy.330 3 года назад +433

    0:43 “When a company attempted to be super ambitious and break new ground with this console”
    Oh yes, how could we forget the epitome of ambition... *Ninjabread Man!*

    • @jadespider5451
      @jadespider5451 3 года назад +5

      Damn i remember that game..it sucked but i remember it lol

    • @PFBM86
      @PFBM86 3 года назад +6

      Wasn't it originally a PS2 game?

    • @jadespider5451
      @jadespider5451 3 года назад +4

      @@PFBM86 i think so but it also came for the Wii, thats where i played it

    • @johnvalle0130
      @johnvalle0130 3 года назад +7

      If you watched Rerez you'll see that NinjaBread Man got 3 more clones

    • @JacobPlatinum
      @JacobPlatinum 3 года назад +3

      Or Starfox zero

  • @eabhafenlon
    @eabhafenlon 3 месяца назад +8

    19:31 i cant belive bro predicted the future of epic Mickey

  • @nebulazz9298
    @nebulazz9298 Год назад +41

    I appreciate Disney taking a risk with their stand out mascot and making a more serious game, because sometimes you do need to try new things and not just use the same material. It might not have been that popular among everyone, but I personally think it's a pretty solid game storywise, and mechanic wise.

  • @jordanboyd5587
    @jordanboyd5587 3 года назад +711

    The concept for Evil Mickey is still around. It's just that it got infused with the Disney company itself and well...here we are.

    • @eatatjoes6751
      @eatatjoes6751 3 года назад +19

      Yep.

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 3 года назад +69

      Evil Mickey: "Extend the copyright ownership laws. None shall raise through the public domain like we did. Death to fan content and derivative works!"
      Also I remember hearing about a time when a pre-school painted Disney characters on their walls to please the kids and Disney found out and forced the school to sandblast the characters off the walls. Yeah, legally they have a right to do it. It's their IP, just not a good PR move.

    • @KittyKatty999
      @KittyKatty999 3 года назад +14

      @@PlebNC Evidence please? So I can share this story.

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 3 года назад +20

      @@KittyKatty999
      For the Disney ruining the public domain thing, look up the show Adam Ruins Everything. It was a show broadcast on American TV and as a sketch on the RUclips channel Collage Humor. Can't remember where it was from a sketch or the show but the episode on it listed its sources so you check the validity yourself.
      As for the sandblasting thing, it was a story a teacher at my school told me decades ago. I don't know if it's completely true but Disney is aggressive enough with their lawyers that it's believable to me.

    • @lucapeyrefitte6899
      @lucapeyrefitte6899 3 года назад +19

      @@PlebNC I can totally see that being a real thing that happened because Disney didn’t let a man have Spider-Man on his dead son’s grave

  • @omnisel
    @omnisel 3 года назад +94

    I actually played Epic Mickey 1 when I was a kid, and I remember reading the Gamestop review and thinking it was so unfair, lol. Literally the only thing I agreed with was that the camera was pretty bad.
    I will definitely say that the side quests are super tedious, and what pisses me off the most is that if you don't deal with the side quest right away or do something wrong you can fail your quest permanently, that pissed off my little completionist self.

  • @thewannabegamer9
    @thewannabegamer9 3 года назад +36

    As someone who grew up never having a “rebellious” phase, this game was incredible. It was the time period between first playing Kingdom Hearts and saving money to get the second game. I played Epic Mickey so many times that whenever people talk about it, I literally get nostalgia. I loved playing and replaying to get the different endings and to see what paint and thinner does to effect the world. And the fact that getting the full paint ending was harder than thinner really made me think about how good choices don’t always equal easy paths. I remember whenever I got into a new town, depending on the different endings that I was going for, that I would completely destroy the town or completely restore it. I mean, I’m sure if I came back to it years later that I wouldn’t think that it would be as good as it is. But from what I remember, and what I think about it right now, I love this game and I wish that people could see that childlike love that I still have for it.
    In regards to the sequels, I didn’t pick up the 3ds version because I got my 3ds later in life. And with the sequel, I dropped it pretty quickly. There was a huge difficulty spike with the platforming and I could never get the Oswald AI to work.

  • @MajorMccboingboing
    @MajorMccboingboing 3 месяца назад +11

    Some dreams come true there's going to be a new epic Mickey remake

  • @3ndg4m3
    @3ndg4m3 3 года назад +526

    The best part of Power of Illusion is when Rapunzel needs a hairbrush, so you borrow one from the Beast.
    This is what Kingdom Hearts has been missing all along.

    • @DDFernan1
      @DDFernan1 3 года назад +14

      Hell yeah, dude (Now, seriously, that will be neat to me)

    • @phari4820
      @phari4820 3 года назад +20

      That's probably why I never got into Kingdom Hearts, when I heard about it this is the kind of thing I expected, just a giant Disney crossover, but then I learned it was more to the Final Fantasy side of things (a series that I'm not a fan of), with extensive and confusing lore and lots of RPG elements and worlds I didn't really care about, so I never tried to come back to the series. But I mean, that was years ago, maybe I should give it a try now, who knows

    • @3ndg4m3
      @3ndg4m3 3 года назад +32

      Right? I was half-joking, but honestly, I do want to see more Disney crossovers where the characters actually interact. But with Kingdom Hearts mostly keeping characters to their own worlds and forcing you through absurdly abridged retellings of their movies, Power of Illusion is the closest we’ve come to that.

    • @fumothfan9
      @fumothfan9 3 года назад +1

      Tbh i liked KH...well 2 at least for spaceship building and crafting. KH1 was decent.
      Story for both was ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT
      Still it was a nice game with unique background graphics looks had the disney touch.

    • @Mal-go5dl
      @Mal-go5dl 3 года назад

      You're right, they never really used the disney stuff to its fullest potential

  • @Jakeneutron
    @Jakeneutron 3 года назад +1321

    HELL YEAH EPIC MICKEY POSTING

    • @AMT_AllMyThoughts
      @AMT_AllMyThoughts 3 года назад +22

      Dude when the music started playing at the beginning of the video, I was just happy.
      Cant say anything more, I was just pleased.

    • @RampantLeaf
      @RampantLeaf 3 года назад +6

      We love to see it

    • @ColgateTheHedgehog
      @ColgateTheHedgehog 3 года назад +6

      *yo jake*

    • @kiricappuchin
      @kiricappuchin 3 года назад +5

      Truly epic

    • @moisheweitzner5301
      @moisheweitzner5301 3 года назад +7

      The first Epic Mickey is truly my favourite game of all time. I get so happy whenever I see ANYTHING about it!

  • @joshuawebb4966
    @joshuawebb4966 3 месяца назад +10

    And now it's back.

  • @ghefersoncurva
    @ghefersoncurva 3 месяца назад +20

    MY REACTION WHEN THE EPIC MICKEY PORT IS IN THIS DIRECT WAS GOLD

    • @yothatscrash3092
      @yothatscrash3092 3 месяца назад +1

      Bro I was so hyped for that!! Never beat it on my original Wii so cannot wait to pick it up again! Here’s hoping the sequel comes at a later date!

    • @bagingi7916
      @bagingi7916 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@yothatscrash3092 my disc scratched so that It crashed at the final part 😢

  • @SlightlyCreative
    @SlightlyCreative 3 года назад +133

    As a big Epic Mickey fan, you have no idea how ecstatic I was to see this in my notifications. Whatever opinion you got on the game Ant, still glad you gave the game recognition at all.

    • @THWhite-ip3uq
      @THWhite-ip3uq 3 года назад +1

      @@charliethompsons7966 stop botting

    • @sonicboss5716
      @sonicboss5716 3 года назад

      I was excited to see this as well!

    • @fritzy8318
      @fritzy8318 3 года назад +1

      @@THWhite-ip3uq bruh. IGNORE THEM.

    • @THWhite-ip3uq
      @THWhite-ip3uq 3 года назад +1

      @A complete and utter mystery EXACTLY!

    • @TommyDeonauthsArchives
      @TommyDeonauthsArchives 3 года назад +3

      I guess that's the biggest takeaway from this video: At least the games got recognized on the internet... I just wished it was 20 minutes longer... or fifteen minutes.

  • @hisuianpitch
    @hisuianpitch 3 года назад +383

    I'm really sad to see the first game be called just "fine" cuz imo it's one of the best Mickey games that Disney ever released but I'm glad it got recognition at all. The game is really nostalgic for me so haha

    • @devonian0590
      @devonian0590 Год назад +7

      Ngl I only played the second one. I love ot

    • @am_goose
      @am_goose Год назад +1

      hard to find people who actually recognize the series lol

    • @am_goose
      @am_goose Год назад +3

      but going back to the first game, it really isn't the best compared to its sequel but i'll always love it lol

    • @pandinus1377
      @pandinus1377 Год назад +5

      hes being overly harsh, the game is super fun and creative its way above fine, if you cant enjoy it cause of the camera get good i didnt have issues about it as kid nor now

    • @sil_Ookami
      @sil_Ookami Год назад +1

      I got stuck on the final boss as a kid and now I don’t play it cuz dusty old WiiU but if it got remade, I‘d love to :(

  • @maxwellkowal3065
    @maxwellkowal3065 3 месяца назад +8

    Ever since the rebrushed announcement, I've been getting a bunch of these in my feed

  • @ghostbuster1297
    @ghostbuster1297 3 месяца назад +11

    After years Epic Mickey is finally on the switch

  • @alwaysasn
    @alwaysasn 3 года назад +205

    Epic Mickey is one of my favourite platformers of all time. Like, obviously it wasn't a great platformer, but it was so dark and depressing that as an angsty teenager I loved it so much!

    • @IamaPERSON
      @IamaPERSON 3 года назад +14

      I've never played it before, but I can definitely see why people like it after watching this.

    • @alwaysasn
      @alwaysasn 3 года назад +8

      @@IamaPERSON yeah. It's just so odd. My sister who was 3/4 at the time used to get so scared watching my play it haha

  • @thatrandomguy7383
    @thatrandomguy7383 3 года назад +167

    The first game literally terrified me when I was younger

    • @jduce4051
      @jduce4051 3 года назад +2

      Same bro I was always scared as hell playing this game 😂😂

    • @thatrandomguy7383
      @thatrandomguy7383 3 года назад

      @@jduce4051 I only got to the amusement park area, I thought it was too hard, and then years later I gave it to a “friend” which was an asshole a couple years later, and I regret it cause I would like to play it, cuz it actually looks fun

    • @AMT_AllMyThoughts
      @AMT_AllMyThoughts 3 года назад +2

      Same xD
      This is why I played and liked Epic Mickey 2 way more xD
      Damn I hope the rumores about a remake of the series are true!!

    • @alexanderfrangie5767
      @alexanderfrangie5767 3 года назад

      I was so scared of slobbers when I first played the game in 2010 when I was 7

    • @toryannatibbs4439
      @toryannatibbs4439 3 года назад +2

      That singing clock was the BANE OF MY EXISTENCE when I was younger

  • @kokoro7996
    @kokoro7996 3 месяца назад +16

    Anybody else here because they announced a Switch remaster?

  • @TheWispGuy
    @TheWispGuy 3 года назад +27

    If Epic Mickey 3 ever happened, I think that the main villain would've been revealed to be Bootleg Pete from "Alice Comedies." Sure, Oswald might have been Walt's first hero character, but Pete came first, not to mention that a lot of people are probably not aware of Pete originally being a bear.
    This is kind of approaching fan theory, but perhaps all of the Petes that are in the Wasteland were made by Bootleg Pete, and they serve underneath him to keep on eye on things. Once Mickey arrives and takes care of the both of the games crisis, Bootleg Pete would've set his plan in motion to steal Mickey's heart, humiliate both Mickey and Oswald, and escape back to the real world.
    Maybe during the final battle, Bootleg Pete manages to summon the Phantom Blot again, perhaps as a last-desperate move after Mickey and Oswald foil his plans. Things either go wrong due to the Phantom Blot betraying him, or he ends up "fusing" with the it to become "Phantom Pete Blot" or something. (which would also be a great way to bring back one of the original plot points for the first game where Oswald fuses with the Phantom Blot, iirc)

  • @WDYMIMDED
    @WDYMIMDED 3 года назад +366

    Be honest, the epic mickey and kingdom hearts games are the most edgiest we have seen mickey mouse
    Edit: runaway brain and the the new mickey mouse shorts by paul rudish also has some edge to them as well

    • @KeybladeMasterAndy
      @KeybladeMasterAndy 3 года назад +32

      Not quite. He's kinda supposed to be the "everyman", so many of his shorts have actually portrayed him as a little "edgier" than we usually see him.

    • @thatsastick13
      @thatsastick13 3 года назад +4

      “They’ll pay for this.” -Literally Mickey Mouse

    • @TeryJones
      @TeryJones 3 года назад +4

      Kingdom Hearts? Edgy? I dunno man.......
      You need to have actual teeth to be edgy...

    • @Duskool
      @Duskool 3 года назад +5

      Hey, Epic Mickey at least has cohesion and some followable continuity.

    • @TeryJones
      @TeryJones 3 года назад +2

      @@Duskool And the overall franchise was a *Disney Game* franchise through and through.

  • @ParmMannREBORN
    @ParmMannREBORN 3 года назад +57

    An underrated part of the 3ds Epic Mickey game is how incredible the 3d slider makes the game look with it's layers of gorgeous art

  • @SimlokGames
    @SimlokGames 3 месяца назад +135

    Who's here after seeing the Epic Mickey remake??
    👇

  • @mitchman-bm6kj
    @mitchman-bm6kj 3 месяца назад +8

    Watching this after Disney Epic Mickey Rebrushed was announced....

    • @zakkhartmann5403
      @zakkhartmann5403 3 месяца назад +2

      Me too

    • @cooperwolfe5478
      @cooperwolfe5478 2 месяца назад +1

      I’m going to sound really stupid but I just now realized it today that it was getting remade. Honestly I saw the visuals and it looks really nice.

    • @mitchman-bm6kj
      @mitchman-bm6kj 2 месяца назад

      @@cooperwolfe5478 Yep, I am definitely looking forward to it.

  • @nematodes23
    @nematodes23 3 года назад +124

    The best thing Mickey Mouse related has to be those new animated shorts, they are so full of life and energy and I see no one talking about them!

    • @christheleavittman7080
      @christheleavittman7080 3 года назад +13

      Wha happun?!

    • @Robbie_Haruna
      @Robbie_Haruna 3 года назад +9

      Honestly I'm not a fan of the more gritty and gross looking artstyle (Goofy in particular is really unpleasant to look at.)
      But artstyle aside they're fantastic. A ton of personality and they're damn hilarious.

    • @KazuhaEien
      @KazuhaEien 3 года назад +4

      Yeah, they've even made a ride at Hollywood Studios based off of them. It's really cool.

    • @lexierosevideos
      @lexierosevideos 3 года назад +7

      I love that version of Mickey too, he has so much more of a personality

    • @moosesues8887
      @moosesues8887 3 года назад +1

      @@Robbie_Haruna that’s the point doe

  • @ReReCoil
    @ReReCoil 3 года назад +113

    Concept Art: Epic Mickey
    Final Game: Eh, It's Mickey...

    • @unknownmusicx
      @unknownmusicx 3 года назад +9

      It’s the wii man, they couldn’t really recreate the concept art

    • @dralgo1646
      @dralgo1646 3 года назад +22

      I mean they were never planning to recrate that art it was the artists testing Disney's limit on darkness

  • @quesazilla4670
    @quesazilla4670 3 месяца назад +13

    So who’s here after they announced a remake of the first game?

  • @yolomolo2736
    @yolomolo2736 3 месяца назад +7

    19:35 How in the world did this man predict the future

  • @theboogeyman4001
    @theboogeyman4001 3 года назад +59

    Still absolutely adore Epic Mickey 1. I don’t wanna remember the other two. Underrated classic.

    • @TommyDeonauthsArchives
      @TommyDeonauthsArchives 3 года назад +11

      Power of illusion wasn't bad, but it had some annoying enemies and tedious fetch quests in it... plus, the game ends before it gets good! Only 3 bosses man!

    • @opfryingpan9770
      @opfryingpan9770 3 года назад +9

      I really liked Epic Mickey 2 😔

  • @---Mattia---
    @---Mattia--- 3 года назад +161

    When I was 10 I was TERRIFIED by this game. I played it some years later and I really liked it. It may not be the best platformer out there, but the atmosphere and style are what makes it unique

    • @nyanpirethecat2257
      @nyanpirethecat2257 3 года назад +9

      You're comment makes me feel old since I remember getting this game on Christmas 2010 midway through Middle School.

    • @spinge1523
      @spinge1523 3 года назад +1

      I just wanna know everything you have on Temsik

    • @thespectaculargamernerd8114
      @thespectaculargamernerd8114 3 года назад

      @@nyanpirethecat2257 same.

    • @dynostretch9215
      @dynostretch9215 3 года назад +4

      Not gonna lie, things like the Mad Clocktower could be pretty unnerving.
      Also, nice pfp you got there.

    • @spinge1523
      @spinge1523 3 года назад

      Fitting, considering how Ghost Trick ends

  • @AriesT1
    @AriesT1 3 года назад +62

    Man, I loved Epic Mickey despite all its flaws (that camera!). It had so much potential and its concept was actually very clever and oozed Warren Spector's legacy. Who, for me, made the very best action-stealth game of all time (Deus Ex), even to this day. I felt sad when it did not fully execute on its premist and what it actually could - no - should have been.

  • @SimoneXD
    @SimoneXD 3 месяца назад +14

    ITS BAAAAAAACKKKK

  • @allanrincon7200
    @allanrincon7200 3 года назад +31

    An Epic Mickey Remake on switch sounds right at home

    • @elderfiend6295
      @elderfiend6295 3 года назад +3

      I’m realizing I need this.

    • @Dorian_Scott
      @Dorian_Scott 3 года назад +3

      A switch re-release does sound like a good idea. With some fine tuning, I think it could have a huge following.

  • @Funkiotologist
    @Funkiotologist 3 года назад +39

    The first one is one of my favorite games, the references to other Disney properties was so cool as a kid, I’m glad someone remembers it

    • @gh0stbn356
      @gh0stbn356 3 года назад +1

      I especially loved it becuase of the disney ride references. I remember seeing it as a kid and thinking the apocalyptic style to the rides like it's a small world were so cool.

    • @Funkiotologist
      @Funkiotologist 3 года назад +1

      @@gh0stbn356 I thought the coolest thing was the dark rendition of the it’s a small world theme as you fight the clock tower boss

    • @Funkiotologist
      @Funkiotologist 3 года назад

      @@gh0stbn356 also it was amazing because this game is the reason people remember Oswald and the way Disney got the rights to him back

  • @m1tch506
    @m1tch506 3 месяца назад +10

    Whos here after epic mickey rebrushed was announced

  • @jofficialchannel
    @jofficialchannel 3 месяца назад +11

    LETS GOO ALL THE FANS ARE HEREEE

  • @realkingofantarctica
    @realkingofantarctica 3 года назад +116

    Now, had this been Epic Goofy, it would've been a masterpiece.

    • @fabianugalde3789
      @fabianugalde3789 3 года назад +7

      I remember hearing that if Epic Mickey 2 did well, then there was going to be a third Epic Mickey game and an Epic Donald game based on the Disney comics universe

    • @KoopalingMayhem
      @KoopalingMayhem 2 года назад

      Ah hyuck

  • @spoiledsalad1851
    @spoiledsalad1851 3 года назад +16

    I remember my aunt bought the collectors edition of this game. At first I hated it because I didn’t know where to go. But once I did I fell in love with it. Epic Mickey 1 has a soft spot in my heart

  • @ud5618
    @ud5618 3 года назад +33

    THIS GAME HIT MY NOSTALGIC HEART SO HARD THIS WAS MY FAVORITE GAME OF ALL TIME

    • @Hynotama
      @Hynotama 3 месяца назад

      You’re in luck because a remake was announced today, coming to all current platforms. And the visual improvements seem to be substantial. Better lighting, more detailed texture, even some higher quality models.

  • @sepp4815
    @sepp4815 2 месяца назад +6

    Wohoho the game is coming back

  • @creativeusername7951
    @creativeusername7951 3 года назад +59

    I got to play a beta build of the first game while taking a tour of Disney Interactive Studios. And the guy accidentally started me off in the final level too lol. Best birthday ever.

    • @Felixman128
      @Felixman128 2 года назад

      What was it like?

    • @creativeusername7951
      @creativeusername7951 2 года назад +1

      @@Felixman128 Mostly the same from what I remember. I know there were differences in the final level though.

    • @Felixman128
      @Felixman128 2 года назад

      @@creativeusername7951 Must of been a very late build

  • @Sansyboi611
    @Sansyboi611 3 года назад +51

    AAAAAAAAAAA I literally just saw the notification and oh my freaking god, Epic Mickey is my favorite game of all time, and no one ever talks about it!

    • @THWhite-ip3uq
      @THWhite-ip3uq 3 года назад +1

      @Samuel Jackson lies

    • @mr.werb15md90
      @mr.werb15md90 3 года назад +2

      same here!

    • @Sansyboi611
      @Sansyboi611 3 года назад +3

      @@mr.werb15md90 It's really funny too, because I just recently replayed through the first game and started replaying the second game

  • @terrillgoodwinejr537
    @terrillgoodwinejr537 3 месяца назад +6

    A remake developed by Purple Lamp, Epic Mickey: Rebrushed, is scheduled for release on Microsoft Windows, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One, and Xbox Series X/S by THQ Nordic in 2024.

    • @benstone4291
      @benstone4291 3 месяца назад

      Thank you for telling me who is developing the remaster (if it’s a remake, I wouldn’t really know as the announcement trailer looks like a remaster given how similar the game is to the original). I was genuinely curious given the developers were shut down alongside Disney Interactive’s gaming division back in 2016.

    • @dragonbornexpress5650
      @dragonbornexpress5650 3 месяца назад

      @@benstone4291. Would have to be a remake as the source code was almost certainly tossed out years ago when Junction Point was shut down. (And probably dumped into Mickeyjunk Mountain after Disney Interactive were shut down in 2016.)

  • @yupitsnine
    @yupitsnine 3 года назад +22

    I loved Epic Mickey 2. We had it on my family Xbox 360, and one day me and one of my best friends came over to my house to play the game. We beat the whole game together after a few days, and that game just makes me so happy.

  • @Aidswayz
    @Aidswayz 3 года назад +35

    I remember playing this when I was a toddler and I couldn't get past the first level because I was so scared of seeing a plunger trying to rip out Mickey's heart
    Good times

    • @mr.werb15md90
      @mr.werb15md90 3 года назад +2

      I'm glad I'm not the only one here.

    • @finnbai
      @finnbai 3 года назад

      I used to be scared of the Giant Piranha Plant in Mario Party DS. Yeah, I was a wimp

    • @luigiman3
      @luigiman3 3 года назад

      I would like to

    • @nyanpirethecat2257
      @nyanpirethecat2257 3 года назад +3

      You're comment is making me feel old since I remember buying this game during Middle School. I still remember when the first trailer dropped and shown off at E3.

    • @henrytheanglerfish6290
      @henrytheanglerfish6290 3 года назад

      I remember thinking that scene was so cool, but being SO disappointed with the machine’s lackluster boss fight

  • @brawlbuster820
    @brawlbuster820 3 года назад +55

    It makes me very happy when people post recent videos about Epic Mickey. It is a very nostalgic game for me. The same cannot be said for the sequel. It was such a disappointment that I beat it in less than a day. The only redeeming factor in the sequel is the admittedly cool bosses. But everyone should play the first game if they ever get the chance to do so.

    • @kcapila
      @kcapila 2 года назад +7

      LESS THAN A DAY? ITS TAKEN ME SEVERAL MONTHS!

    • @anasbakhit4303
      @anasbakhit4303 2 года назад +1

      it's very short if you just ignore all the side missions and went straight to the main story route, doing everything ( especially the hero or paint route ) will probably takes a week or 8 hour or so if you're fast.

  • @icygoomy6680
    @icygoomy6680 3 месяца назад +10

    I need to rewatch this now after that announcement

  • @lifeboy3253
    @lifeboy3253 3 месяца назад +8

    Who’s here after it got Remastered for Switch

  • @thegunnshow1907
    @thegunnshow1907 3 года назад +25

    Bruh I loved the Epic Mickey games as a kid. And even today I still love the entire series! Hopefully at least 1 and 2 get remakes.

  • @KayFiOS
    @KayFiOS 3 года назад +63

    11:18 This Wii game nailed an effect that not even Kingdom Hearts 3 would use.

    • @Robbie_Haruna
      @Robbie_Haruna 3 года назад +8

      To be fair you can kinda see why lol
      It looks super wonky on a 3D model.

    • @Mqstodon
      @Mqstodon 3 года назад +3

      Because it looks weird

    • @AceTrainerX3
      @AceTrainerX3 3 года назад +6

      That's... honestly pretty charming.

    • @davidthecommenter
      @davidthecommenter 3 года назад +5

      honestly that was a genius idea and they pulled it off pretty nicely

    • @KayFiOS
      @KayFiOS 3 года назад +2

      Looking back, Kingdom Hearts 1 did use the ear effect, and that just makes it more baffling that they did it even once if they weren't going to do it ever again. 0.2 explains how Mickey lost his shirt, but not how his ears were moving at that exact moment.

  • @ebenmoore9770
    @ebenmoore9770 3 месяца назад +7

    Nice to see so many people returning to this video!

  • @SuperNintendoGameboy
    @SuperNintendoGameboy 3 месяца назад +6

    19:33 yeah, about that actually

  • @coltonk.3086
    @coltonk.3086 3 года назад +46

    I really hope Epic Mickey gets a remake. I loved it as a kid.

  • @friendthebarrel154
    @friendthebarrel154 3 года назад +20

    Anyone who hasn't listened to the clocktower boss theme definitely should, it integrates a super sinister sounding version of its a small world and its super cool

    • @SlayCap
      @SlayCap 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/oRxJlv8MkjM/видео.html

  • @piggybank6548
    @piggybank6548 3 месяца назад +7

    ITS NOT OVER

  • @nickew6543
    @nickew6543 3 месяца назад +7

    And now they are making a remake on it. Amazing

  • @dakdread
    @dakdread 3 года назад +35

    Just gotta add my piece anytime this comes up
    Warren’s concept art he made he said in an interview he said he was pushing it as hard as he possibly could for the concept to a point he knew they would be rejected and then they could go from there and tone it down a bit
    Unfortunately we were never supposed to see these early ones from what he says so that’s that. We got shown gold we never could have had

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo 3 года назад +98

    I really liked Epic Mickey 2. I wish there was a 3rd one.
    The whole aesthetic and concept of forgotten characters and a dystopian disneyland is so beautiful

    • @andrewsmith4581
      @andrewsmith4581 3 года назад +3

      I agree. I loved the original so much.

    • @RayoMcQueen95990
      @RayoMcQueen95990 3 года назад +3

      There are 3 games actually, the 3rd one came alongside the 2nd one, but exclusive to the 3ds

    • @Mqstodon
      @Mqstodon 3 года назад +1

      @@RayoMcQueen95990 but it's completely different and doesn't follow the same continuinity im pretty sure

    • @RayoMcQueen95990
      @RayoMcQueen95990 3 года назад +1

      @@Mqstodon yeah it's a 2D platformer

    • @thespectaculargamernerd8114
      @thespectaculargamernerd8114 3 года назад +4

      I really wanted to see what the Petes were planning in the third game.

  • @KSH_7546
    @KSH_7546 3 месяца назад +8

    19:31 bro rlly predicted the future

  • @fabthebadartist
    @fabthebadartist 3 месяца назад +7

    WE'RE SO BACK

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga 3 года назад +19

    Who else here found out about Oswald when Epic Mickey came out ?

  • @mimi.sues.
    @mimi.sues. 3 года назад +61

    bruh I played this game as a kid and it gave me nightmares (robot goofy was and still is absolutely terrifying)

    • @mr.werb15md90
      @mr.werb15md90 3 года назад +4

      when I first played the game, I was too scared to fight the mechanical arm boss.

    • @TylerHarff
      @TylerHarff 3 года назад +2

      For me it was the reveal of the real blot that scared me

    • @jduce4051
      @jduce4051 3 года назад +3

      SAME BRO 😂😂

    • @Cheetahgirl_Studios
      @Cheetahgirl_Studios 3 года назад +2

      The Mad Doctor scared the bejesus out of me as a kid. I refused to play the Haunted Manor level, because I knew he was in there.
      I recently found my old Nintendo Wii Mini, and my copy of Epic Mickey. For nostalgia purposes, I decided to start playing it again. And WOW. It’s held up surprisingly well. It’s not the best game out there, but damn am I enjoying my digital trip down memory lane.

  • @_milo-h_
    @_milo-h_ 3 месяца назад +7

    Not me watching this after seeing the trailer for the hd remaster

  • @duckboss0005
    @duckboss0005 3 месяца назад +12

    whos watching this after the remake got revealed

  • @1ittlegs
    @1ittlegs 3 года назад +17

    Antdude: All these years later we still don't have a modern port of Resident Evil 4 with motion controls
    Capcom: Reveals Resident Evil 4 VR

  • @mr.fearingtoon3549
    @mr.fearingtoon3549 3 года назад +24

    I had this game when I was little and I loved it. I know it has a lot of missed potential but it introduced me to the world of Floyd Gottfredson's Mickey Mouse comics. Mickey used to be an actually funny and well rounded character who felt a full range of emotions in the 1930s. Around this time a Mickey Mouse Comic strip was created for newspapers. Floyd Gottfredson was brought on as a temporary artist for the strips but ended up illustrating the comic untill his death. The strip had a serialized plot and each story arc was even better than the last. They were all well written and had some fantastic art to boot. Each story was gripping and had elements of danger and mystery in them, as well as creating Mouseton and other characters that would influence the Mickey Mouse Comic universe. I would highly recommend buying the Floyd Gottfredson collections from fantagraphics.

  • @dawnhughes6684
    @dawnhughes6684 3 месяца назад +5

    Crazy that now they’re making a remake of epic mickey all these years later, I can’t wait

  • @stevenatorbensonica4653
    @stevenatorbensonica4653 3 месяца назад +7

    19:31 YOU TOTALLY CALLED IT!!!

  • @coolsheep5502
    @coolsheep5502 3 года назад +14

    I remember playing Epic Mickey and loving it, but as I grew I forgot about it. Then, this video showed up in my recommended and I instantly remembered the game(s) in a flash. Thanks for reigniting my childhood memories.

  • @zacharylandrum4789
    @zacharylandrum4789 3 года назад +22

    It's quite funny how people have been talking about Epic Mickey more nowadays. LS Mark made a video on it debating if it is just edgy or actually epic, Fawful's Minion made a Blessed or Messed on the video and now AntDude throws his paintbrush into the ring.

    • @Cheetahgirl_Studios
      @Cheetahgirl_Studios 3 года назад +6

      Hardly surprising tbh. I’m glad this game’s gotten a cult following and is quickly being recognised as the classic it is. As Ant said, it isn’t the best, but it’s the style and atmosphere that makes it stand out.

  • @nin10doboy70
    @nin10doboy70 3 месяца назад +6

    WE’RE SO BACK!!

  • @Allister.1
    @Allister.1 3 месяца назад +6

    The missed opportunity is now no more because of the remaster is coming yes let’s go

  • @arcanistnpc4751
    @arcanistnpc4751 3 года назад +62

    Epic Mickey was my first horror game. I used to be a huge scaredy-cat when I was a kid and the dark atmosphere of this game was just the level of horror I could handle. It still gave me nightmares though...

    • @naersthebat4129
      @naersthebat4129 10 месяцев назад +1

      I remember being scared of fighting the first slobber in tomorrow city and I coudlnt progress in the game without asking my dad for help XD

    • @Ash1627
      @Ash1627 6 месяцев назад

      @@naersthebat4129same here I wanted to play it but sometimes I didn’t get past an obstacle all because I was scared of the robot

  • @samluttrell6961
    @samluttrell6961 3 года назад +14

    epic mickey was and forever will be my most nostalgic game oat

    • @Hynotama
      @Hynotama 3 месяца назад

      Remake/remaster was announced for all current platforms. Epic Mickey Rebrushed.

  • @nicefighter
    @nicefighter 3 месяца назад +5

    may or may not need a sequel video

  • @comicscinemaothermedia9247
    @comicscinemaothermedia9247 3 месяца назад +5

    Who's here after the refreshed announcement